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February 13, 2025
Ukraine – The Beginning Of The End (Which Is Yet Far Away)

Trump's opening gambit in the negotiations with Russia about Ukraine has caused some waves.

U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that the borderland, i.e. Ukraine, will have to give up territory to Russia. There will be no place for Ukraine in NATO. The U.S. will give no security guarantees to Ukraine. Neither the U.S. military nor NATO will take part in any peacekeeping mission in Ukraine.

With that the U.S. conceded to Russia two of its main requests. Four Ukrainian oblast plus Crimea will become parts of Russia. NATO enlargement towards the east has been stopped. Any U.S. deployment to Ukraine is, for now, out of question.

The devil however is in the details. Russia will want legal agreements and guarantees. It knows that these might (again) be broken but it is still be better to have those than none.

There is also no agreement at all, when, where and how the fighting might stop.

The Trump administration wants an immediate ceasefire along the current line of contact. For Russia this just a repeat of Minsk 1 and 2 agreements which were used to prop up Ukraine. It is not a sufficient solution.

The Russian readout of yesterday's Trump-Putin call says:

Donald Trump spoke in favour of stopping the hostilities as soon as possible and solving the crisis peacefully.

In turn, Vladimir Putin pointed out it was necessary to eliminate the root causes of the conflict.

Trump wants a ceasefire, Putin wants more.

The question of NATO membership for Ukraine is only one element of the root causes of the conflict. What is necessary to conclude the war is a long lasting indivisible European security structure in which every major country can feel save and secure.

In late 2021 Russia presented two papers to the U.S. and NATO which point to potential solutions. Discussions on those have not even started. This will be a long process.

Unless a structure of indivisible security in Europe is found and agreed upon Russia will have to use military means to guarantee security for itself and its allies. Its Special Military Operation is likely to continue until that objective has been achieved.

There is no sign that Trump has recognized the larger issue at hand and is willing to talk about it. When he finds out that there is no short term solution – a ceasefire – to have, he might want to dump the whole issue and ignore the outcome: "Let Europe take care …"

When the Biden administration provoked and executed the proxy war against Russia, major European countries ignored their own interest and behaved like U.S. vassals. They now make noise about being left out of the peace process.

Well, if you behave like vassals and ignore your own interest why are you astonished when you are treated like vassals and have your own interests ignored? Grow some balls and fight for your interests. Then maybe, just maybe, other will also start to keep your interests in mind.

Comments

Some discussion here of the potential of increasing NATO spending to 3% – 5% – 10%. The purchase of added military equipment would also require the staff to operate it.
Europe is in a demographic death spiral and importing millions from Africa and Asia to maintain zero growth. The horrors of this conflict are streamed to devices everywhere. How likely is it that NATO will be able to recruit sufficient numbers of soldiers to utilize all the new gear? Will the new immigrants volunteer to protect European democracy and neo-liberal values? Not likely.
Sure, there will be lots of tech-savvy people willing to remotely operate drones and other destructive hi-tech devices. But a large increase in boots on the ground close to Russia, NATO can forget about it.
That said, Russia has no interest in the conquest of openly hostile countries. The experience of the USSR showed that is more trouble than it is worth.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Feb 14 2025 4:49 utc | 201

I find it interesting to look at the myths behind the Ukraine situation.
For the US as face of empire the conflict in Ukraine is all about controlling Russia directly or indirectly in its fight agains rising China. Trump sees this failing so wants out.
For Europe it is unclear if the UK is still a bastion of empire and if it can be the core for Europe to support Ukraine under the auspices of a regional security organization [NATO sans US].
How does this transition from US to Europe backing of support for Ukraine work? When does US stop providing arms and missile/drone targeting and control? Will Europe provide boots on the ground in Ukraine?
And is Russia suppose to pause their advances while this transition occurs?
Will all this be worked out at the Munich conference over the next few days?…./S
The shit show continues until it doesn’t.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 5:46 utc | 202

Joey n
Same in Libya and Syria. Although some say it was US indicated it is in fact some well connected Deep State minions who pulled somme triggers and the rest of their corrupt and narcissist pals followed in line.
Look at Sarkozy’s bio and his relation to Carlyle.
No one in Europe is talking about the legal aspects of the Isr declarations and actions or those of the US. Move on. The media are in the pockets of people who make sure no legal or constitutional expert is called to comment. This is also how they managed to steal the results of the elections in France and the EU general polls.

Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:46 utc | 203

@ Debsisdead | Feb 14 2025 3:03 utc | 195
i was reading an article by ken klipperstein substack earlier tonight..the comment section was attacking him for suggesting the usa might have played a role in the war in ukraine…. americans have been pretty indoctrinated into thinking they are the bestest and nothing they do is ever without good intent… in other words – they’ve swallowed the koolaid and hate it when someone suggests they are the warmongering instigator… yeah – they broke it, they own it, but good luck convincing some of these folks on that..

Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 5:51 utc | 204

This makes me feel Trump is genuinely going in the right direction:
Opinion
Trump’s senseless capitulation to Putin is a betrayal of Ukraine – and terrible dealmaking
Timothy Garton Ash

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 14 2025 6:17 utc | 205

Some data points:
3.5 million NATO troops levels
2.0 million NATO ex-USA troop levels
$1,400 billion NATO military budget
$400 billion NATO ex-USA military budget
Versus
1.5 million Russian troop levels
$100 billion military budget
Conclusion : The NATO military doesn’t need more money and doesn’t need more troops.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 14 2025 6:50 utc | 206

It would seem Putin’s policy is successful. Ukraine is KO, without causing an all-out war with NATO.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 14 2025 7:00 utc | 207

That said, Russia has no interest in the conquest of openly hostile countries. The experience of the USSR showed that is more trouble than it is worth.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Feb 14 2025 4:49 utc | 201
I suspect part of the deal will have the separate Oblasts vote on their own future (independence/reunion with Russia/Hungary/Romania/Poland).

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 14 2025 7:11 utc | 208

Looks like Ukrainian SSR is going to get divvied up. Poland sent ‘historians’ to Moscow to discuss ‘historical Polish lands’.
If Poland gets it, there is no doubt Hungary, Slovakia and Romania will get it too. Russia will get what they claim and Ukrainian SSR will get a part of the middle.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 7:21 utc | 209

Considering Trump’s “little personality problem” will he be able to be a peacemaker without expecting a grandiose Yalta with leaders of the free world obliged to lick his boot, next to those of Netanyahu and Musk?

Posted by: Tom | Feb 14 2025 7:31 utc | 210

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 14 2025 7:11 utc | 208
I suspect part of the deal will have the separate Oblasts vote on their own future (independence/reunion with Russia/Hungary/Romania/Poland).
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 7:21 utc | 209
Looks like Ukrainian SSR is going to get divvied up.

It seems to me two solutions are sustainable:
(1) Russia takes the whole of Ukraines and all Ukrainian oblasts become new Russian regions, or
(2) the decision is left to voting across the oblasts except Crimea, the Donbas, Kherson and Zhaporozhya.
The solution of having a Russian puppet government in Kiev seems to me unsustainable. I think the country so far known as the Ukraines has to cease to exist.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 14 2025 7:39 utc | 211

Slovakia and Romania will get it too.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 7:21 utc | 209
Slovakia needs more gypsies and ukrop deadbeats like it needs a hole in the head. There is nothing else in that land. Good riddance the Soviet union took it from the hands of Czechoslovakia in 1945. Let the polish hyenas choke on it, since they love everything ukrainian now and dream of bigger Poland again.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 14 2025 8:00 utc | 212

BREAKING NEWZ
Zelenski claims a short while ago, with video, that ‘Russian Drone’ hit ZNPP and started a fire.
Timing is everything. \s

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 14 2025 8:04 utc | 213

BREAKING NEWZ
Zelenski claims a short while ago, with video, that ‘Russian Drone’ hit ZNPP and started a fire.
Timing is everything. \s
Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 14 2025 8:04 utc | 213
It was the sarcophagus of Chernobyl, video below. One should expect provocations like this from the UK/Zaluzhny clique to disrupt possible negotiations. The last remaining storm shadow missiles will also be used by the UK to attack Russian oblasts and provoke a response with the goal of canceling the unfavourable peace deal for Ukraine.
https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/49434

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 14 2025 8:25 utc | 214

Useful – especially on the “rabbits” in EU leadership positions.
Also worth reading for “illiberal leftists” …
#Orban Toughens Criticism Of EU
https://southfront.press/orban-toughens-criticism-of-eu/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 14 2025 8:30 utc | 215

You all are naive to think plebiscites are a good answer. What makes you think they would be done without interference from the West?
For that matter, even Russian speakers in Ukraine have turned very anti Russia. People don’t like being invaded.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 14 2025 8:30 utc | 216

@5thcolumn | Feb 14 2025 8:25 utc | 214
Agree …terrorist tactics – more on the way.
But the transparency of the attempted ‘con’ here and how quickly in gained traction in MSM newz lets us know that the forces to terminate the deal are out and about … the usual suspects – great phrase that – the usual suspects.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 14 2025 8:35 utc | 217

“What is necessary to conclude the war is a long lasting indivisible European security structure in which every major country can feel save and secure.”
They should make a trip to DC and negotiate with the USA that it won’t attack them again.
To suggest the danger comes from Russia is pure IGNORANCE of facts on the ground. One such fact is the blown pipeline in the Baltic.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Feb 14 2025 8:41 utc | 218

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 14 2025 8:30 utc | 216
“For that matter, even Russian speakers in Ukraine have turned very anti Russia.”
Evidence?

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 8:51 utc | 219

Looks like Kiev regime is attempting a nuclear disaster rather than give up. Reportedly Zelensky does not want peace, because in that case he will have to answer why Ukraine lost territory instead of the promised victory, while having been left with a $500 billion debt.

🇺🇦🇷🇺‼️🚨 NUCLEAR FALSE FLAG: UKRAINE IS DESPERATE TO NOT BE DORCED INTO A DEAL!
A strike at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant was done!
This is a provocation. Russia has no reason to strike the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Especially now. But Zelensky urgently needs to come up with something to disrupt what has already… been predetermined by Putin and Trump.
Any sane person understands this. And where is the logic?
Until tonight, no one had ever struck Chernobyl. And here, literally the day before, the hysteria of Kyiv and Europe about PEACE TALKS, where, as all Western media without exception are writing today, Putin can put pressure on Trump, and allegedly Russia committed this stupidity?
Do they measure everyone by their own stupidity?
Apparently, the calculation is that Western media will support this and this will prevent the inevitable, the peace talks that will force Ukraine to surrender territory and hold elections.
If Kyiv today were run by people other than complete degenerates who are incapable of even coming up with a normal plan, but who are scared to death, they would certainly come up with something else. But now they are like cornered rats and their brains, clouded by cocaine, are turning off.
And hence the … UAV strike on the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Which should convince the world… And what should it convince the world of? As for me, that this herd of criminals mired in all sins is capable of throwing nuclear waste at Europe.
In principle, in today’s situation, yes, they are capable. They are capable of anything. If only to save themselves.
I was sure that Zelensky and Co. would not keep us waiting for long. And I think that this will not be the end of it. Provocations will escalate as the negotiations unfold.
That’s their only chance for survival!
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1890321938628665388

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 8:53 utc | 220

@ Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 8:51 utc | 219
Our little resident propagandist is unaware that “Russian-speaker” in so-called-ukraine refers to literally everyone but some Hungarians. Can’t even phrase a basic argument pulled out of his own ass correctly. It’s amusing.
It’s Russians, not “Russian-speakers”, you adorable anonymous ignoramus.

Posted by: boneless | Feb 14 2025 9:04 utc | 221

@ unimperator | Feb 14 2025 8:53 utc | 220
Level of coverage this petty stunt will get on Western media in the next few days will be telling about current US admin’s political will.

Posted by: boneless | Feb 14 2025 9:06 utc | 222

I suspect part of the deal will have the separate Oblasts vote on their own future (independence/reunion with Russia/Hungary/Romania/Poland).
Posted by: Suresh | Feb 14 2025 7:11 utc | 208
That would appear a pretty fair option to me-DEMOCRATIC even.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 14 2025 9:09 utc | 223

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 8:53 utc | 220
The Jewish comedian and his merry band are in survival mode.
All they want is to flee but fleeing is dangerous, has to be done at the precise time and to the best destination.
All that money stolen from the American taxpayer waiting but fleeing is so riddled with uncertainty.
All of them are contemplating an early death, pondering is this the last year.
Cornered rats jumping up the wall in desperation.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 14 2025 9:11 utc | 224

Whoa!!! This is quick.
A US Govt plane landed in Moscow to pickup a Russian delegation to Munich.
Delivering VVP’s 2021 demands again?
The Root Causes. Strap in!!

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 14 2025 9:13 utc | 225

@Newbie | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 173

I think norway’s role in the nordstream, and maybe an atack or two, could also be used but I would bet the us would rather see their huuuge national fund more firmly invested in the us, and the polar area cannot fall for RF so so norway stays.
This move would also get the eu in line. Who wants to get thrown under the bus next? There is dirt on most.

If you have any evidence to support this rumour spread by Seymour Hersh I would be most interested to see it. If any such evidence exist, severe punishment must follow.
If however no evidence exist (I believe this to be the case) and it is just a rumour spread by an informal representative of the US deep state in order to blame my country for what the USS Kearsarge did, then I think it is time to declare this claim as a bad faith lie.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 9:15 utc | 226

Posted by: jure | Feb 13 2025 19:00 utc | 100
— I agree, the problem has definitely also been our successive governments and spineless “leaders”. I however, as a traditional anti-imperialist socialist, will never vote for the AfD. Alice “Hitler was a communist” Weidel is a complete imbecile, and with fascists like Björn Höcke in the party, hell no. —
Dito here. The AfD earned some kudos, though, during the manufactured COVID-19 crisis. IMO.

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Feb 14 2025 9:17 utc | 227

Posted by: B.Poster | Feb 14 2025 3:06 utc | 196
In what alternate reality?
The US has been pushing this since the 50’s.
And that dead fuck Mc Cain finally got them to fight.
What you’ve also got completely wrong is”let Europe handle this”.
It means we’ve failed miserably and now someone else can deal with the consequences.
As they always do.
So sick of that shit country.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Feb 14 2025 9:17 utc | 228

Zelenskyy should remember Nguyen van Thieu’s reaction to Nixon’s visit to China… “Ah, the Americans have found a prettier girl.” All this discussion of rare earth boiled down to Z’s legitimacy. Without an election any collateral extended by Zelenskyy’s gov’t can be nullified by the next bozo in Kiev. Exactly as Putin has been saying about a peace plan signed by Zelenskyy. Trump has realized he makes a better long term play with Moscow. As for Zelenskyy, it may be in Trump’s interest to send him to Moscow for trial: when he squeals, he will implicate the Biden clan, useful revenge for the Don.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Feb 14 2025 9:17 utc | 229

The Grayzone Live
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1zqKVjmOgnwKB
“The jig is up.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 9:19 utc | 230

Some financial media reported it will cost EU $3 trillion over next 10 years to keep the Kiev regime from failing. Guess they like riding on the ‘express elevator to hell’.
https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1890326595333763523

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 14 2025 9:22 utc | 231

It was the sarcophagus of Chernobyl, video below. One should expect provocations like this from the UK/Zaluzhny clique to disrupt possible negotiations. The last remaining storm shadow missiles will also be used by the UK to attack Russian oblasts and provoke a response with the goal of canceling the unfavourable peace deal for Ukraine.
https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/49434
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 14 2025 8:25 utc | 214
MSM is showing a flat-four engine, also known as a horizontally opposed-four engine or boxer engine.
Looks a lot like a Limbach L550E, but i know little to nothing so do check and comment, so they’re trying to pin it on a Shahed-136/Geran-2
But engine is originally german and anyone can build around it, not to mention some have probably been captured in syria.
Comments even on worst russophobic country (uk) are leaning toward false flag to derail, not enough nato trolls to downvote enough. But plenty to upvote platitudes in the top comment… must be concentrating upvotes on keeping the false flag option out of the top best
Interesting that they are letting this part fly in the main article
“His statements are widely seen as a major victory for Putin and a devastating blow to Kyiv, which as a result could be forced to cede vast swathes of territory without the prospect of a security guarantee.
Moscow has frequently accused Ukraine of seeking to attack nuclear power plants with drones, which Kyiv has resolutely denied.
Wreckage of the military drone that hit the wrecked Chernobyl reactor cover was shown but the type was not immediately clear.
Russian Telegram channels claimed the strike was likely a Ukrainian stunt to derail peace talks.”

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 14 2025 9:22 utc | 232

Posted by: Stierlitz | Feb 14 2025 9:17 utc | 229
When you think about it. A Russian prison may end up being the safest place on earth for Zelensky. As an added bonus he will finally be able to kick his snow addiction. Trump will make him an offer he cant refuse

Posted by: DaVinci | Feb 14 2025 9:24 utc | 233

The media are in the pockets of people who make sure no legal or constitutional expert is called to comment. This is also how they managed to steal the results of the elections in France and the EU general polls.

Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:46 utc | 203
That reminds me of

@ Debsisdead | Feb 14 2025 3:03 utc | 195
i was reading an article by ken klipperstein substack earlier tonight..the comment section was attacking him for suggesting the usa might have played a role in the war in ukraine…. americans have been pretty indoctrinated into thinking they are the bestest and nothing they do is ever without good intent… in other words – they’ve swallowed the koolaid and hate it when someone suggests they are the warmongering instigator… yeah – they broke it, they own it, but good luck convincing some of these folks on that..
Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 5:51 utc | 204

and

“My point that what were grants/handouts are now being called loans and repayment demanded got serious pushback from a local troll when I exposed that point at MoA today. Same ideology goes with Trump’s Gaza Hotel Resort abomination where the Zionists are to die so the US can claim ownership when the genocidal deed is done. But IMO we must be clear that it was the Outlaw US Empire that instigated an undeclared war with Russia—a war doctrinally desired for decades—and used Ukrainians as weapons to attain victory. IMO, that truth isn’t getting the airing it deserves.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 14 2025 2:43 utc | 191

Karlof1’s quoted comment in particular, the one he responds to in context, and an earlier column of his that names Nuland* and Kagan* among the instigators of the conflict in Ukraine reassure me that some of us aren’t suffering from memory loss.
Some of the comments on RT and Twitter made the US look like a victim of European parasitism, etc. despite hints from everywhere else suggesting the other way around (not that it serves to absolve the Europeans of any wrongdoing).
(* I await an explanation from B.Poster (196) regarding those names)

Posted by: joey_n | Feb 14 2025 9:26 utc | 234

I shudder to think what would have happened to our world if Hillary had beaten Obama to the nomination in 2008. The mayhem would have started in 2009 instead of 2022. Russia would have been in a far worse position economically and may have been forced to press the big red button. Seems there might be a God after all

Posted by: DaVinci | Feb 14 2025 9:28 utc | 235

If you have any evidence to support this rumour spread by Seymour Hersh I would be most interested to see it. If any such evidence exist, severe punishment must follow.
If however no evidence exist (I believe this to be the case) and it is just a rumour spread by an informal representative of the US deep state in order to blame my country for what the USS Kearsarge did, then I think it is time to declare this claim as a bad faith lie.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 9:15 utc | 226
I said it probably won’t be used, but the same article by Hersh that mentions the USS Kearsarge also mentions the P-8 from the Norwegian Navy dropping the buoys….
Why add norway to something pointing the finger to the us? surely the finger in the trigger is not the central point here .
As usual, not your country, but will you put your hands in fire for some of your more hawkish and sold-out politicians and military (not that the crew had to know what it was dropping)?

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 14 2025 9:33 utc | 236

@Newbie | Feb 14 2025 9:33 utc | 236
Show us the evidence or shut up.
Yes, we have Quislings over here. I do not let any opportunity to pass to make that point. In particular we have characters like Stoltenberg who deserves an eternity in hell, and creeps like Børge Brende you probably don’t even know about, but you can look him up. And yes, there are more.
But if you really want the truth, you should stop lying.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 9:38 utc | 237

Another echange of KIA bodies.
757 vs 45.
And Anonimous was pushing his BS abous the slow Russian Army advances all this time, so the cope about “those who move forward collect more bodies” is not supposed tp work any more.

Posted by: Rutte | Feb 14 2025 9:38 utc | 238

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 13 2025 23:02 utc | 157
Good to bring it up. It was not explicit, but some of the history was taught in public schools in the Northeast US back in the day. The awareness seems to have faded away, but there are still Americanized elements.
LOL Just watching old timey black and white American movies would show the US/elite Brits clan. An ascendant power block has superseded that narrative.
Is there a land-based version of a drone?
Posted by: Mark Mosby | Feb 13 2025 18:40 utc | 89
Yes. Some are being used for supply. According to Military Summary Channel, in Velyka Novosilka the Russians used combat land drones.
It might be why it fell quickly. It may also partly explain the change in the US policy towards ‘peace’, as the previous cold calculus of using UKrainians to kill Russians was seen as favorable, as no active duty US soldiers perished. Yes, mercs & plausible deniability.
Before the smo War the Russians had deployed automated sentry drones (stationary) that protected nuclear missile silos.
Not much news on the subject. My guess would be it is kept quiet because it would rightfully sow panic about such dystopian weapons systems. And operational security, they want to slow the West’s eventual counters.
The usage of land drones would benefit the Russian way of war as I imperfectly understand it. Advance by reconnaissance, small squads. Used as point, it could draw fire, and are likely armored. Light opposition and it could kill, or suppress the enemy while troops advanced. RPGs, drones, ATGM, anti material rifle could be used to counter them, but UKrain must be running low on those due to bombed logistics, time and attenuated energy grid. They must be cheaper than a tank or APC. Heavy opposition it could spot for artillery strikes or FABs. Russian WIA/KIA drastically reduced.
Equipped with Infra red and it would act as a tireless night sentry, allowing troops to rest somewhat securely. The URrain advantage in night sights, with ISR, gave them an outsized night time special operations advantage earlier in this war.
They could be used to create a kill zone, hold a location, while troops ate, moved elsewhere, protect the flanks or for a tactical retreat.
Like FABs, air drones, Oreshnik – a force multiplier.
If further developed and mass produced like the air drones, Russia would have the potential to conventionally conquer all of land Europe. And people are talking about muh attrition and Odessa by 2050. Sarcasm noted, right back at ya.
This is a War, but in a certain sense it is a SMO as it is a weapons and tactics laboratory. Again, the last thing Russia needs would be an overly panicked EUrope. They want their trading partner back and less reliance on China. Russia is extremely vulnerable naval and on sea routes, they would lose just to Europe in this aspect, even without the maritime choke points. So slow and steady it goes.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 14 2025 9:53 utc | 239

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:19 utc | 178
You still don’t seem to understand how Trump operates, go back and watch the masterful, meandering weave, that he walked for three hours during the Joe Rogan show. Cherry on the cake is, if you dismiss this politically, non-political approach under evidence of Orange man bad, you multiply the impact of any policy, as many of his erstwhile detractors have found. Trump wants Putin in a position in Ukraine that will destroy the DS narrative, without leaving obvious fingerprints on the tools he’s using.
Announce temporary suspension of aid, resume aid but state there’s no more coming from the US, after the last tranche
Remove IRS and cells operating deep strikes into Russia (none since inauguration)
Start to dismantle the covert funding streams, whilst highlighting and personally identifying the conduits and recipients
Start conversation about gain of function studies conducted secretly overseas (gee, wonder where/who that will lead to)
Support publicly Russian claims about the ultimate cause of the conflict
Stress the casualties that the war has cost both sides but reminding the Ukrainian’s of their sacrifice
Mention the importance of elections in Ukraine as part of the resolution mechanism
Announce, indirectly, that the war was really fought for natural resources which can be obtained, without bloodshed, far closer to the US (Greenland/Canada)
That’s just off the top of my head on a morning before the first morning coffee’s caffeine hit. Taken individually they represent a disjointed series of policies, but taken together they are designed to demoralise Ukraine and slightly relieve the pressure on Russia, allowing Putin to militarily exploit this overt/covert shaping operation and present the instigators, enablers and sustainers of the conflict with a fait accompli.
As an added bonus, most of the above measures also achieve the main aim of dismantling the now increasingly exposed Deep State, whilst resurrecting the long abandoned principle of the role of the Executive as co-equal partner, not one that’s been bureaucratically ordained to suffer the role and fate of Macbeth’s poor player. The real objective of Trump’s second bite at the apple.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 10:01 utc | 240

a rumour spread by an informal representative of the US deep state in order to blame my country for what the USS Kearsarge did, then I think it is time to declare this claim as a bad faith lie.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 9:15 utc | 226
Agreed.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 14 2025 10:03 utc | 241

“A Ukrainian drone just hit a Chernobly reactor”
It seems unlikely we we will get to noon Saturday in peace

Posted by: stubby | Feb 14 2025 10:13 utc | 242

politicians and military (not that the crew had to know what it was dropping)?
Posted by: Newbie | Feb 14 2025 9:33 utc | 236
A possibility. It would make Norway innocent. The CIA backed ISIS was fighting the Pentagon backed Kurds in Syria. A rogue element should not inculpate the whole country.
That said, at the time I remember it being a US plane over flying the area, but I could misremember or the info could have been incorrect.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 14 2025 10:14 utc | 243

@stubby | Feb 14 2025 10:13 utc | 242

🔘 Zelensky’s insane provocation in a desperate attempt to disrupt the negotiation process
On the day of the Munich conference, the expired leader decided to go all in and staged an attack on the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The danger of such actions, primarily for the Ukrainian population, is nothing new for Kiev’s nuclear terrorists to ignore.
The dictator declared that “the only country in the world that can attack such sites” is Russia—apparently, in a drug-induced haze, forgetting that the whole world witnessed AFU attacks on the Kursk and Zaporozhye nuclear power plants.
It is obvious that such a dangerous provocation was hastily cobbled together, and Zelensky’s statements simply cannot be taken seriously. However, it clearly demonstrates the extent of despair that Bankova has reached due to the ongoing negotiation process.

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/37146

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 10:25 utc | 244

CullenBaker | Feb 13 2025 16:02 utc | 2
The trouble with all the 1930s comparisons, so beloved of our elites and their “educated”/programmed supporters, is that they always leave out the other ideology which was part of every European political equation – Bolshevism/Communism.
There is no functional “Communist menace” any more for people to either react against or flee to fascism for shelter from – “fascist” these days means “thing I don’t like”.
The only expansionist state driven by racial ideology is in the Middle East.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 14 2025 10:27 utc | 245

Video clips showing the attack:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/138792

🇺🇦☢️ In light of tonight’s strike on the Chernobyl NPP, we would like to remind everyone that at the end of January, we warned about Ukraine’s growing desperation. With the new Trump administration incoming, we noted that they would resort to nuclear provocations to disrupt negotiations.
You can read our posts here:
Part 1 (https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/137167) – Part 2 (https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/137168)

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 10:30 utc | 246

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 10:01 utc | 240
My thoughts as well, but eloquently expressed.
His flat reading of the Gaza into a resort document fits your framework. If you take out the grinning devil and the ethnic cleansing part, he indirectly trash talked Israel and was sympathetic to the Palestinian plight.
Trump has been underestimated.
It might not be 3D chess, but at least it is more than Biden checkers.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 14 2025 10:33 utc | 247

There will be no Russian representatives at the Munich Security Conference – Zakharova

https://t.me/rtnews/82190

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 10:37 utc | 248

sunofalabama has raised the issue about the less known aspects of EUs financial conditions. While I dont know enough to entirely contradict him nor know enough to agree, I think the behaviour of the EU needs to have a more rational explanation than to refer to them as subservient.
There are more likely some important consequences for the EUs financial power if the US is weakened.
For example I saw info years ago about big japanese and german banks owning shares in the federal reserve.
I dont know if they were correctly reproduced but it made me think that maybe the bankers do have more in common than is reported and explained to the public and that therefore the west is more cohesive than would be the case if the US was independent.
There are probably people out there on the web who know but who wont tell us here.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 14 2025 10:38 utc | 249

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 14 2025 9:11 utc | 224
On Cornered Rats
We come to the country house.
Youngest daughter finds a rat in the kitchen.
I grab a beisball bat and go for the kill.
Rat makes the wrong turn and ends up cornered.
I watch and wait, covering the way out.
Rat starts jumping up the wall.
Wall is covered with tiles, impossible to climb up.
Rat realizes situation.
Rat runs to me as fast as he/she can trying to pass.
I hit him/her right on the head, instant death.
So, what have we learned so far?
The cornered rat will be in denial first, trying to climb up the wall.
This is where the Jewish comedian and his circus are now.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 14 2025 10:39 utc | 250

Quote from b.: “There is no sign that Trump has recognized the larger issue at hand and is willing to talk about it.”
He did. As well as he understood that Ukraine is nothing else but another, ideologically driven and covered bad investment.
IMHO, Trump is preparing ground for House to give up Magnitsky legislation. He and his advisers and executives – now Tulsi G. on board, too – understand that THE fish to fry is at home, not overseas. Oreshnik and Deep Seek are just warnings, as well as BRICS delay of currency mechanism (in Kazan, president Putin handed out legal tender bill specimen). Trump is looking for some help, he desperately needs agreed system, not Russia+China+others, he has to crudely and quickly reform his own state upside down. He is a lucky man: BRICS do not want to destroy, they want to reform. So, reform in USA is just another, so long wanted and expected, of trends not to be in opposition.
They’ll give him air he needs: one way or the other, there’s nothing else in his program that we’ve not seen in Russia or China, or India.
Something really huge is going on.
Mind our friend Gonzalo Lira in your prayers.

Posted by: syd.bgd | Feb 14 2025 10:57 utc | 251

@syd.bgd | Feb 14 2025 10:57 utc | 251

Mind our friend Gonzalo Lira in your prayers.

Thank you. I am not religious, but Gonzalo Lira is often on my mind, almost daily.
Gonzalo Lira talking for ~2 hours in March 2022 about Victoria Nuland and her activities in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzR—YDDIQ

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 11:05 utc | 252

“Where are the F-16” news:

https://t.me/rybar/68010
✈️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Today, after a very long break, the Ukrainian Air Force began flying to intercept our strike groups operating against ground targets. It is likely that they used their F-16s for this purpose for the first time.
The aircraft launched air-to-air missiles from the Dnipropetrovsk region from a maximum range of several hundred kilometers in order to minimize the likelihood of being hit by Russian air defense systems.
📌 True, you can’t fool physics, and the effectiveness of such actions turned out to be appropriate. And on our side, we were prepared for this – enemy aircraft were “led” from the ground and air, and air defense systems were actively working on them.
Judging by what was happening on Ukrainian air at the time of work, they clearly did not like what was happening. There is also fragmentary information about the fall of an enemy aircraft in the area of ​​Krivoy Rog, but so far these are just unconfirmed rumors.
Most likely, against the backdrop of talk of negotiations, such interception attempts will continue – the Kiev regime clearly wants to throw into battle its latest wonder weapon, which it has been promoting throughout 2024.

Posted by: boneless | Feb 14 2025 11:09 utc | 253

Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 13 2025 17:02 utc | 35
The insane asylum governments of France and Britain need to understand that we will let Russia nuke all the capitals of Europe without lifting a finger. Otherwise, I’m afraid they’re going to lob some nukes towards Russia.
<= I believe a European instigated false flag event is already planned and is now in implementation stage? If American opinion was at the helm, instead of the British controlled State Department at the USA, USA nukes would already have taken out the capitals of Europe and imprisoned most of their surviving politicians. Trump may be the only President, Since John Hanson, first President of the United States (who died Nov. 21, 1783 ) Europe has not owned or does not own? Certainly the Europeans installed the US constitution in order to take the independent power of the states away from them (the propaganda that sold that idea as Federalism which caused the war between the states 70 yrs after it was done). Understanding this may explain the great resistance the European controlled media and democrats in America had to Trump as a President of the USA? the coming false flag attempt by Europe over Ukraine will be the third world war the Europeans have tried to dump on Americans. WWI was get ownership of the oil beneath the Ottoman Empire and to destroy German technological competition WWII was to destroy German industrial and to absorb German technology into countries the Rothschild types could control. Now the same Europeans that caused these wars want Americans to fight Russia so the Europeans can have the minerals beneath Ukraine is and nearly always has been a Russian nation I say give it to them. Europe wants Russian oil, gas, mineral and technology competition removed from global markets.. B.S. I say. tell the Europeans to shove it.. To this day I cannot understand why Germany has not merged with Russia? The USA needs to close its bases in Europe and bring its people home to USA governed America. Trump needs to return European vs Russian security back to agreements and treaties made since 1990 and make a deal with Russia that Russia build a pipeline under the sea, thru Alaska, Canada to the USA strategic reserve in exchange for the USA keeping the Europeans off the back of Russia. Then both Putin and Trump can raise the price of oil and gas to Europe and recover from the Europeans the cost of the European war [contained in Ukraine] against Russia. Use the USA to MAGA.. Until recently Russia was a partner with the USA. IMO, there is no better Partner potential than one that has the kinds of science and minerals Russia has.. Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 14 2025 2:43 utc | 191 But IMO we must be clear that it was the Outlaw US Empire that instigated an undeclared war with Russia—a war doctrinally desired for decades—and used Ukrainians as weapons to attain victory. IMO, that truth isn’t getting the airing it deserves." <= actually I think it was the department of state and the Europeans who control the department of state, much of the USA bureaucracy and nearly all of the deep state. .. Americans had nothing to do with it..Trump says he is going to use the USA to make America great Again.. Let's see if he expel Europe from America as a part of that process.

Posted by: snake | Feb 14 2025 11:21 utc | 254

Ukraine Weekly Update, 14th February 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-f93

Posted by: The Busker | Feb 14 2025 11:36 utc | 255

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 9:15 utc | 226
Missions like that one are usually done either by subs or vessels with the USNS designation not regular navy surface vessels. Too many crew on regular ships full of people too young to keep their mouths shut. RV’s run by WHOI and SCRIPPS are also used to do evil shit in between regular scientific missions.

Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 11:55 utc | 256

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 14 2025 0:28 utc | 167
I clearly see Hitler when I see Merkel’s face. It’s those crazy conspiracy series I suppose and how much I know about Hitler starting with his pre-WWI life as a homosexual prostitute and the forces which brought him to power.

Posted by: Oswald | Feb 14 2025 11:57 utc | 257

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkOf5t3NrCo
Great news. I hope they’re Azov types.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 14 2025 12:35 utc | 258

The disaster of the latest Ukrainian counter-attack in the Kursk region is evident in the numbers below. Also, in recent weeks Ukraine seems to have gotten a new infusion of tanks and armoured vehicles – which is being rapidly depleted by the Russians. Ukraine is utterly dependent upon the West for the replacements of the equipment destroyed by the Russians. The US is now no longer an equipment sugar daddy, and the European armouries are already quite empty. Seems that the Europeans want to demilitarize themselves via the Russian army.
Te lower manpower losses (45,000 a month is lower!) of the Ukrainians is probably linked to the Russian rotation process. With any new major Russian offensive will come higher Ukrainian losses. A possible floor of 45,000 a month (probably 50,000 with undercounting) will still be devastating to a Ukie army finding less and less people to press gang.
Ukrainian losses for the week February 8th to 14th, as reported by the Russian defence ministry:
– Kursk & Kharkiv fronts: 2,590 troops, 18 tanks, 110 LAV/HMV, 147 motor vehicles, 39 artillery pieces.
– Zapad Group (Luhansk area): 1,480 troops, 7 tanks, 25 LAV/HMV, 23 motor vehicles, 35 artillery pieces, 10 EW systems.
– Yug Group (Donetsk north): 1,325 troops, 10 LAV/HMV, 18 motor vehicles, 17 artillery pieces.
– Tsetr Group (Donetsk south): 3,730 troops, 3 tanks, 26 LAV/ HMV, 36 motor vehicles, 26 artillery pieces.
– Vostok Group (southern front): 1,005 troops, 3 tanks, 2 LAV/HMV, 26 motor vehicles, 33 artillery piece, 2 EW systems.
– Dnepr Group: 440 troops, 3 LAV/HMV, 40 motor vehicles. 10 artillery pieces, 8 EW systems.
In total: 10,570 troops – a relatively low number of losses (45,800 per month, with undercounting probably 50,000 plus). Plus 24 surrenders. Less than the 90,000 a month losses during the Autumn.
31 tanks (18 in Kursk/Kharkov), 174 HMV/Light Armoured Vehicle (110 in Kursk/Khakrov), 280 motor vehicles. Kursk still a graveyard for Ukrainian armoured vehicles, with the latest counter-attacks proving to be a disaster.
160 artillery pieces (39 in Kursk/Kharkov). A jump to a rate of 693/mth, beyond the West’s ability to replace. Plus 20 EW systems.
Total losses so far for the Ukrainians in the Kursk front have been 60,500 troops, 363 tanks, 264 IFV, 215 APC, 1,872 LAV/HMV, 1,974 motor vehicles, 439 artillery pieces, 48 MLRS, 123 EW and counter-battery systems

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 14 2025 14:49 utc | 259

In total: 10,570 troops – a relatively low number of losses (45,800 per month, with undercounting probably 50,000 plus). Plus 24 surrenders. Less than the 90,000 a month losses during the Autumn.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 14 2025 14:49 utc | 259
Subject to confirmation, and depending on what RF will do, ukraine seems to be trying to hold with 50% of available forces. That would pan out to having 120.000 at LOC to 90.000 in december.
Either RF ramps up or takes advantage of thinner lines.

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 14 2025 16:01 utc | 260

The introduction of drone warfare is as much a revolution in land combat as the tank and the machine gun.
The front line takes on the aspect as a series of interlocking one or two man dugouts in which the drone operator can shelter. Interlocking in the sense that they communicate by radio and knowing each other’s exact position can offer mutual fire support.
Such a defensive layout more or less counteracts Russia’s vast superiority in tanks, artillery and airpower and in particular the FAB glide bombs.
Unlike a trench line, which offers little protection against drones and is easy to spot by drones, the entrenches to the small dugouts are difficult to spot by drones and make a difficult target not only for artillery but as well for drones.
The drones have a range of 5 miles and greater depending on type, equipped with IR and video and pack enough of a punch to disable a tank or IFV (which they are much faster than) if struck in the right spot.
All modern combined arms tactics and equipment get thrown out the window in this style of warfare. If you are out in the open anywhere within 5 miles of the front you are vulnerable Concentration of force simply provides greater target opportunity.
I wonder if Putin and the General Staff rue not having moved faster earlier on and established fixed positions. In any event it is tough sledding at this point and the end point is clear, killing the last Ukrainian, which now includes age 18 and above.
Meanwhile the West will do everything possible to buy time and prolong the conflict to avoid a Russian victory hoping against hope of stopping the Russian advance.
However at this point one thing is clear, there is no way in hell the West will send their own troops into the maelstrom.

Posted by: Oswald | Feb 14 2025 16:15 utc | 261

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 10:25 utc | 244
Some drone, the sarcophagus’ walls, of reinforced concrete, are 10m thick! Even accounting for the deterioration of the structure, due to exposure to the elements, the chances of a drone causing any serious damage is remote. Which then begs the cui bono question and that answer will be obvious to the majority. So, is this desperation by the DS as their infrastructure is being ripped up at home and their co-ownership of the Ukrainian Greenback Laundromat (motto, ‘we’ll wash anything’) is being threatened, or a 5D move by the faceless ones?
Posted by: boneless | Feb 14 2025 11:09 utc | 253
Extreme range normally equates to easier to defend against due to the missile having the lowest energy state, exacerbated by its relatively small control surfaces in comparison to a fixed wing aircraft, whose energy state is not range dependent. Desperate times call for desperate measures and Ukraine’s increasingly revealing the true state of its armed forces.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 14 2025 14:49 utc | 259
They could be achieved by using vehicles stockpiled from the Polish repair facilities, one of the reasons why the Germans claimed that if a vehicle was able to be repaired it was not to be officially counted as destroyed. If this is the case, I wonder how many returned runners were 100% match-fit?

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 16:20 utc | 262

«When the Biden administration provoked and executed the proxy war against Russia, major European countries ignored their own interest and behaved like U.S. vassals. They now make noise about being left out of the peace process.
Well, if you behave like vassals and ignore your own interest why are you astonished when you are treated like vassals and have your own interests ignored? Grow some balls and fight for your interests. Then maybe, just maybe, other will also start to keep your interests in mind».
Perfect! Simply perfect!

Posted by: Valerio | Feb 14 2025 16:26 utc | 263

They should accept their decline and increasing inconsequentiality. Only then will they be able to improve in the long term.
Posted by: Gabriel Moyssen | Feb 13 2025 18:08 utc | 70
__________________4
The same can be said of the Untied States of America.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 14 2025 16:33 utc | 264

Apparently, Putin has deployed Oreshnik to Kaliningrad.
A taste of NATO’s medicine.
Whatever happens with Russia/America, Europe remains (always has been) a threat (for centuries) to Russia.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 16:35 utc | 265

Germany is importing illiterate and violent people from the middle east – thanks to that semi-moron Angela Merkel.
Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Feb 13 2025 18:10 utc | 75
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…just as the Untied States imported illiterate and violent people from Europe not so long ago.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 14 2025 16:38 utc | 266

Posted by: Oswald | Feb 14 2025 16:15 utc | 261
The FPV drone’s time as a weapon with over-whelming effectiveness is already in decline and in time adaptive and reactive responses will relegate it to just another weapon system. Any long-term advantage will drain away to be replaced by an altogether more temporary ascendency, dictated by a platform’s relative position in the act/react cycle, itself driven by temporary factors.
The longer lasting impact that drones will have is in the sphere of ISR, allowing unmatched surveillance capabilities at such a devolved level that they negate, or significantly reduce, the effectiveness of traditional tactics of cover and concealment. Not only is fieldcraft significantly impacted, the drones are significant force multipliers for support weapons, ranging from battalion level to bigger tube and rocket systems. Finally they allow remote command opportunities and a boost to C3, but that can be a two-edged sword as previous incarnations of that capability have shown.
It will be interesting to see how effective the Mexican cartel’s threats of suicide droning US border agents will be, it will give a good indication as to the state of play in this latest efficacy cycle that all weapons undergo.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 17:10 utc | 267

Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 11:55 utc | 256
Yes they are, you just need to leverage certain ‘capabilities’.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 17:29 utc | 268

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 14 2025 16:38 utc | 266
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…just as the Untied States imported illiterate and violent people from Europe not so long ago.
These “illiterate and violent people” hat built a civilisation that the Middle East still cannot match.
Note also that the literacy rate in Scotland in the age of enlightenment, for example, was 75% for men and 65% for women.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 17:39 utc | 269

Posted by: snake | Feb 14 2025 11:21 utc | 254
What do you think the bombing of Nord Stream was all about? Was it not the US threatening Europe’s energy security?
Do you think Putin, Lavrov, Zakharova et al were wrong to implicate the US (“Anglo-Saxons”) for the conflict in Ukraine? They have accused the Europeans of blindly following the US and not being sovereign nations (although whether they had a choice in that is debatable).

Posted by: joey_n | Feb 14 2025 21:41 utc | 270

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 17:29 utc | 268
No generally warships are not used for such activities. The USN generally uses naval auxiliary ships as they are cheaper to build and outfit for specific roles. Their oceanography vessels are commonly used for clandestine dive missions. They also like to use WHOI and SCRIPPS vessels as well as they don’t tend to draw as much attention from the public as greyhulls. It is also likely that Paul Allen’s little ‘oceanic archeology’ foundation is just a front for clandestine naval operations.
I only worked a few special mission ships myself. Nothing all that interesting, just regular evil empire stupidity.

Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 22:52 utc | 271

Russia won’t end the conflict until they have control of Odessa.

Posted by: D J G | Feb 15 2025 0:08 utc | 272

False flag operation carried out at Chernobyl.
An explosion recorded on drone footage conveniently.

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 15 2025 2:10 utc | 273

Posted by: Pete Lincoln | Feb 14 2025 1:55 utc | 185
“The US has only sent 88 billion in aid to Ukraine despite $183 billion authorized by Congress.”
We know this for sure because Zelensky said it was so.

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 15 2025 4:19 utc | 274

>In late 2021 Russia presented two papers to the U.S. and NATO which point to potential solutions.
b, could you or someone else please link or say specifically what these papers are? I would very much like to read them because so far I have not seen any details about Putin’s “new European security architecture” proposal. Thank you.

Posted by: X | Feb 15 2025 5:16 utc | 275

Are these the two documents that b you had in mind from 2021 or are there more/different documents?
>Treaty between The United States of America and the Russian Federation on security guarantees
>https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790818/?lang=en
>Agreement on measures to ensure the security of The Russian Federation and member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
>https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en

Posted by: X | Feb 15 2025 5:18 utc | 276

@X – I’m pretty sure those are the ones, which Russia delivered NATO and the US in December 2021, separately, but basically the same document, known informally as the “non-ultimatum ultimatum”.
If I recall, the US and NATO in response, pretended to be blind and deaf, and had Ukraine escalate their shelling of Donbass, and the massing of troops on the border, before Putin finally ordered the SMO.

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 15 2025 5:53 utc | 277

These “illiterate and violent people” hat built a civilisation that the Middle East still cannot match.
Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 17:39 utc | 269
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Would that be a “MAGA hat”?

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 15 2025 8:40 utc | 278

Note also that the literacy rate in Scotland in the age of enlightenment, for example, was 75% for men and 65% for women.
Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 17:39 utc | 269
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Were those men and women literate in their own language, or in English, the colonizer’s language?

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 15 2025 8:49 utc | 279

Just saw a picture of the Baltlet and Nordic country presidents from MSC, who gladly pronounced that they are the last suckers, bag holders left with Ukraine black hole.
Think of it. These countries are the most vaunted supporters of EU. The Nordics are also great net payers of EU. The Baltics are the greatest net receivers.
When the greatest net payers run dry with Ukraine as the accelerator, they won’t be able to pay EU anymore, who won’t be able to transfer wealth to the Baltic states who are completely dependent on handouts.
Well, guess it’s just another way the EU will weaken and disappear.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 15 2025 9:02 utc | 280

Defiance
One UK summary-extract
Ukraine will never accept deals made behind our backs without our involvement, and the same rule should apply to all of Europe,’ Zelensky said.
‘A few days ago, President Trump told me about his conversation with Putin. Not once did he mention that America needs Europe at the table. That says a lot.
‘The old days are over when America supported Europe just because it always had.’
Zelensky insisted that ‘three years of full-scale war have proven that we already have the foundation for a united European military force’.
And noting the presence of NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte in the audience, Zelensky explained that his idea ‘wasn’t about replacing the alliance’.
‘This is about making Europe’s contribution to our partnership equal to America’s’, the Ukrainian leader said.
Zelensky was speaking shortly after German Chancellor Olaf Scholz took aim at the new political tack from Washington under the Trump administration.
Scholz shot back strongly and said his country won’t accept people who ‘intervene in our democracy’ – alluding to remarks made by US Vice President JD Vance.
If there is determination for such vanity and delusion, so be it ..and be prepared to be abandoned so that all EU and UK becomes like a Ukraine wasteland, culturally rotten and corrupt , a further unstable economic , a decline into a scramble from survival and internal strifes.

Posted by: Jo | Feb 15 2025 12:05 utc | 281

Posted by: Milites | Feb 14 2025 17:10 utc | 267
Your comment about potential cartel use of drone on the southern border is indeed interesting. I can’t help but think about application of drones by Hezbollah and Hamas. I’m not sure of how a static line surrounding Gaza for instance would be viable against long term drone attack.
You are quite right that any weapon system is only viable for just so long. But, I think modern drones have reached a point of development to represent a revolution in land combat. There will be innovations certainly, for example the recent introduction of fiber optic control making them unjammable and providing picture perfect video, perhaps better batteries and motors. In their present form they are an absolute beast.
Technology can only advance so far. I’m not sure at this point a modern cell phone can be superseded in the next one hundred years. Same for cars and passenger jet aircraft. Actual development has hit the limit of the supporting infrastructure.
I am sure planners in Israel are furiously working on anti-drone technology. So too in Russia and Ukraine. So far, at least against the latest fiber optic drones, there is nothing.

Posted by: Oswald | Feb 15 2025 12:58 utc | 282

@Jo 281
Whenever I hear the expression “full scale war” in reference to the SMO, I shake my head. Now when it appears Europe is ready to join in… I think they would probably notice if Russia turned it into a full scale war.
But I guess Europe’s situation isn’t bad enough yet, so they need to keep working at it…

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 15 2025 15:41 utc | 283

🚨🇷🇺 Russia MFA Spokeswoman: “Zelensky doesn’t understand that he has already lost everything. He lost the territory, the country, the people… Meanwhile, Kiev is adopting the tactics of Israeli special services and increasing terrorist activities

Calling out the Israeli tactics of terrorism.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 16 2025 0:47 utc | 284

Re: Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 14 2025 8:51 utc | 219

“For that matter, even Russian speakers in Ukraine have turned very anti Russia.”
Evidence?

Well, the most prominent would obviously be President Zelensky – the native Russian speaker at the head of the snake in Kiev.
He is very anti-Russian – have you ever listened to him?

Posted by: Julian | Feb 16 2025 2:58 utc | 285

He is very anti-Russian – have you ever listened to him?
Posted by: Julian | Feb 16 2025 2:58 utc | 285
##############
He’s also a cocaine addict.
The perfect hero for you NATO fans.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 16 2025 3:53 utc | 286

Posted by: Julian | Feb 16 2025 2:58 utc | 285
“For that matter, even Russian speakers in Ukraine have turned very anti
Russia.”
Evidence?
Well, the most prominent would obviously be President Zelensky – the native
Russian speaker at the head of the snake in Kiev.
That’s just one example and hardly sufficient evidence for the general statement made.
Note that Mr Zelensky has not “turned” anti-Russian; he always was – in the last few years anyway.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 16 2025 6:49 utc | 287

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 15 2025 8:49 utc | 279
“Would that be a ‘MAGA hat’?
[…]
Were those men and women literate in their own language, or in English, the
colonizer’s language?”
I am not American and not a great admirer of President Trump. However, I’d rather wear a MAGA hat than a dunce’s cap.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 16 2025 6:55 utc | 288

The EU is as much to blame for this mess and the US. Catherine Ashton and Borrell blocked Ukraine’s effort to be the actual borderlands between the EEAA and the EU and be a member of both. They estimated that the total cost of “transitioning” Ukraine’s economy away from Central Asia to the EU at just €3bn. So when Borell insisted that Ukraine join either one block or the other, but not both, the stage was set for Maidan.
And the criticism that the US has walked back on its commitments is naive in my opinion. Countries are not monolithic and Trump never agreed with much of what the CIA and USAID were up to around the world. European leaders who refused to see the writing on the wall can only blame themselves when the new sheriff spelled out his agenda.
Trump needs better relations with Russia because the Brzezinski Russian breakup plan is done. New sanctions and proxy wars only make Russia stronger now because it draws other large countries more tightly into Russian/Chinese led financial institutions. The strategy of “chaos at the margins” doesn’t work any more. Zbigniew Brzeziński is gone and the strategy, while useful for a generation, is no longer an option.
So the danger for the US is that it expends resources on last years problems and neglects newer, more urgent ones. So “what next?”. Germany cannot be trusted. I don’t mean this in any moralistic way. German business needs Russian energy and Russia needs German engineering. So political power will eventually flow to where the money is. The current crop of politicians are trying their hardest to prevent Germany from doing business with Russia, but a closer partnership between those countries is inevitable in my opinion. And if Germany gets closer to Russia, the EU is done.
So the EU is over. It’s just a question of how it breaks up. There is a possibility that a wave of bank failures in the fringe EU countries followed by a refusal to rescue begins the process. Trumps policies to date are likely to create strong deflationary forces and that would end these fragile countries. The other possibility is that Germany just defies the US and lifts all sanctions, rebuilds NS1 and NS2 and gets back to the business of squeezing the economic life out of the smaller countries. I don’t have any opinion on how it goes but it will break soon.
Whichever way it goes, Russia will be a much bigger player in the a non EU Western Europe going forward. Add to that, the fact that Arctic shipping volumes have increased by a factor of 10 since 2014 and are still growing at breakneck speed as Russia launches new more powerful ice breakers to open these routes year round. Russia controls 95% of these volumes.
So Trump has to play catch up. The era of “exporting our way of life” is over. No more generous trade deals which allow other countries to develop their industrial base on the appetites of US consumers. No more “special relationship” with continental Europe. No more exporting of jobs. Instead, the game is shifting to create a pole to pole economic block in the Americas, Bring jobs back to the US, and create an integrated continental economy.
Canada and Greenland will be absorbed into the USA. That way he can prevent complete Russian dominance of the Arctic waterways. This is realistic given how angry western Canadian provinces are with the Canadian Federal government (the provinces will likely peel away one by one). Greenland will hold an election in March of this year and then that game gets going. The Americans are also working aggressively on squeezing the Chinese out of the Panama Canal.
tl:dr The US needs to get its Arctic shipping industry going. Western Europe is not a priority any more. Ukraine is cooked. Put a fork in it.

Posted by: VtObserver | Feb 16 2025 23:55 utc | 289

“On Sunday there will be elections in Germany. Following three years of a shrinking German economy they will lead to another regime change.”
Vielleicht Merz kommt keine Whoche früher in 2025.. aber doch kein Untershied.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Feb 18 2025 18:17 utc | 290