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February 23, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-036
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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The Russians have made significant gains north and west of Velyka Novosilka, pretty much taking all of the fortified positions that were in their way; making more aggressive gains now possible. Also, driving westwards through the line of fortified positions to the west of Andriivka and in the process of finishing off Kostyantynopil before moving westwards. The south-west front is being cracked open. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 24 2025 15:43 utc | 201 seeing how EU (not europe, as russia and others are also europe) is now openly into nazism, among some other nato members like canada, its clear that they are in complete fear of the bear. Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 24 2025 15:45 utc | 202 Suresh@98….a big arrow would have been tactically nuked in the Ukraine proper. End of war. So list all the places in 404 that Russia could nuke in retaliation. For what? Getting nuked in someone else’s country, I think that might be allowed within Queensbury Rules. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 24 2025 15:52 utc | 203 Russian gas (LNG) creeping back into Europe. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 24 2025 16:00 utc | 204 Looks like Ursula VDL is back to the ‘Russian economy is in tatters’ narrative, in conjunction with boasting about the latest EU free money tranche to Ukraine. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 24 2025 16:04 utc | 205 The US warhawks the Ukrainian Neo-Naz’s and the European Atlanticists won’t like this one little bit, good. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 24 2025 16:05 utc | 206 The Provenance of what lies ahead and the future of a new European army without the US of A is in the cards. The outcome of Germany’s electoral elections paves the way for that and more by cutting ties with the current administration in the Americas and even made crystal clear on national television by Mr Joachim-Friedrich Martin Josef Merz. At the same time, Mr. Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy wishes to establish a new NATO in Ukrainian soil with allies and partners. Few days ago here in this forum, I hinted to this future and possible scenario. Hence the reason for the proposed ceasefire and freeze of the conflict and not a long lasting and sustainable peace in the region. This move can be earmarked as an undercover operation with the involvement of the intelligence services during the rebuilding of Ukraine to rearm and fight future wars. The Russian Federation will of course never agree to anything of the sort. This represents the root causes of the war in the first place – NATO expansion that needs rejection. However, the 100-years legally binding agreement with the British Isles has now a new meaning but futile for the Kremlin and should not be tolerated. Posted by: pepe | Feb 24 2025 16:08 utc | 207 This Estonian warhawk makes Hillary Clinton look positively tame. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 24 2025 16:21 utc | 208 Germany – independent from the US, don’t make me laugh, they’ve already partially destroyed their own economy to accommodate US interests. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 24 2025 16:24 utc | 209 Trump is a fucking idiot. As you posted, it might take 1000 years to get $100B out of the ground in Ukraine … or never. We’re talking about hypothetical assets that aren’t even recoverable under present conditions or assumptions. Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 24 2025 16:31 utc | 210 People here underestimate how much Russians actually love USA Posted by: Sombrâge | Feb 24 2025 16:48 utc | 211 People here underestimate how much Russians actually love USA Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 24 2025 18:00 utc | 212 People here underestimate how much Russians actually love USA Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 24 2025 18:10 utc | 213 Well, so much for the slo-mo SMO. According to Trump, by the end of this week, he and Zelensky will sign that rare earths deal. Now what will Russia do? There’ll be American companies/workers in Ukrainian held territory and if they get damaged, injured, or killed there will be hell to pay. Posted by: bored | Feb 24 2025 18:32 utc | 214 The Russian and more so the Chinese prefer to assist to a soft crash of the US with not too much collateral victims. There are no love involved there. They are not “playing nice”. What they are doing is assessing the risks. Posted by: Mary | Feb 24 2025 18:34 utc | 215 Geezo oh the English/American owned media – that passes for the Scotland’s media, has gone overboard today – in pushing Ukrainian propaganda there are over 28,000 Ukrainians hiding out in Scotland – I’m hoping they go home once Putin and Trump thrash out a peace deal. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 24 2025 18:39 utc | 216 Posted by: Saul Goode | Feb 24 2025 9:07 utc | 120 Posted by: Mary | Feb 24 2025 18:47 utc | 217 Posted by: bored | Feb 24 2025 18:32 utc | 214 Posted by: Naive | Feb 24 2025 19:03 utc | 218 Posted by: bored | Feb 24 2025 18:32 utc | 214 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 19:21 utc | 220 So Trump now saying he will allow peacekeepers in Ukraine and that Putin has agreed to that. Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 24 2025 19:23 utc | 221 UN General Assembly Holds Special Session on Ukraine Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 24 2025 19:26 utc | 222 Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 24 2025 18:00 utc | 212 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 19:32 utc | 223 Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 24 2025 19:23 utc | 221 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 19:33 utc | 224 A daily reminder. Trump talks non-stop. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 19:35 utc | 225
Lol, Trump cheats in golf as well. He probably believes that by lying a lot, and rigorously, his lies will become truths. Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 24 2025 19:46 utc | 226 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 19:35 utc | 225 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 19:48 utc | 227 Incredible all this death and suffering and Russia couldn’t claim Odessa. Also, there will be NATO ‘peacekeeping’ troops now in Ukraine. Ugh…… Posted by: bored | Feb 24 2025 19:51 utc | 228 @bored – What kind of stupidity are you reading? Stop shitposting, fool! Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 20:06 utc | 229 Yeah, Russia lost the war and had to accept unfavorable terms. Only on MoA that still denied this. Posted by: Yseut | Feb 24 2025 20:11 utc | 230 In honor of PeterAU1, here goes: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 20:12 utc | 231 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 19:48 utc | 227 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 20:16 utc | 232 Dima: quick summary of today’s video Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 24 2025 20:22 utc | 233 Have i missed this onthe thread ? Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 20:29 utc | 234 Incredible all this death and suffering and Russia couldn’t claim Odessa. Also, there will be NATO ‘peacekeeping’ troops now in Ukraine. Ugh…… Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 24 2025 20:36 utc | 235 To pick up on Tichy’s post from last night (my time zone) Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 24 2025 20:42 utc | 236 Russia hasn’t accomplished most of the goals of the SMO Posted by: MiniMO | Feb 24 2025 20:46 utc | 237 U.S. Openly REFUSES To Condemn Russia; Unreal Scenes At UN As Trump Shocks Zelensky, NATO, EU Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 24 2025 20:47 utc | 238 Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 24 2025 20:42 utc | 236 Posted by: Mario | Feb 24 2025 20:49 utc | 239 Yeah, Russia lost the war and had to accept unfavorable terms. Only on MoA that still denied this. Posted by: MiniMO | Feb 24 2025 20:50 utc | 240 Posted by: MiniMO | Feb 24 2025 20:46 utc | 237 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 20:51 utc | 241 Melaleuca @ 236 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 20:58 utc | 242 Reality is a point of view
That’s it! My kaleidoscope is broken. Posted by: too scents | Feb 24 2025 20:58 utc | 243 Seems the globblists/neocons running the EU are in full throat in their support of the Ukraine war. Maybe they have realized that the end of the war poses an existential threat to the EU and NATO. I hope that Trump follows through and cuts off all funding for Ukraine. Some people may not realize that the US is not only funding the military but also the government and civil services, with some help of the EU and others. Cut off the money and my opinion is that Ukraine will collapse in short order. Sooner the better… Posted by: ctiger | Feb 24 2025 20:59 utc | 244 Lol, Trump cheats in golf as well. He probably believes that by lying a lot, and rigorously, his lies will become truths. Posted by: Naive | Feb 24 2025 21:03 utc | 245 Posted by: too scents | Feb 24 2025 20:58 utc | 243 Posted by: ctiger | Feb 24 2025 21:03 utc | 246 KeEEEv: Zelensky front and centre at a G7 meeting. Posted by: Message | Feb 24 2025 21:04 utc | 247 Mexican stand off, Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 21:05 utc | 248 Click. I get it why the Verkhovna Rada vote news isn’t available in US*AIDS* media, but zSlylensky’s magnanimous offer to resign is…. Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 24 2025 21:10 utc | 249 @Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 20:29 utc | 234 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 24 2025 21:16 utc | 250 Pop corn anyone russel russel 👀👀👀 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 21:24 utc | 251 Arestovich’s take on 404’s unfolding future (unreconstructed slimeball that he is) on Simplicius’s latest is interesting. Of all those here and elsewhere who prognisticate upon the future, he might know The Admin’s plan better than anyone. Now based in the US, fleeing from Zelensky’s wrath, he may well be right inside the latest Washington loop, brought over, paid and protected, to HELP Green Man’s downfall. He is the ultimate Rasputin, no doubt. Creepy, dishonest, evil, Machiavellian, turncoat … Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 24 2025 21:35 utc | 252 @Don Firineach | Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:16:00 GMT | 250
That would be interesting. The last time either country used their veto not in conjunction with the US was in 1976 (France over the Comoros). Posted by: James M. | Feb 24 2025 22:09 utc | 253 @Avtonom | Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:46:00 GMT | 226
That’s the Trump way. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by that. We literally have a fifty year track record of it. Posted by: James M. | Feb 24 2025 22:13 utc | 254 Ukraine still getting money Posted by: Jo | Feb 24 2025 22:18 utc | 255 NATO report today Posted by: Jo | Feb 24 2025 22:21 utc | 256 Denmark announced 270 M euru equivalent for Ukraine couple days ago . Posted by: Jo | Feb 24 2025 22:24 utc | 257 Kyiv/Geneva, 21 February 2025 – As the full-scale war in Ukraine approaches its fourth year, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) is appealing for USD 255 million to support two million war-affected people in the country in 2025. Posted by: Jo | Feb 24 2025 22:28 utc | 258 https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992 Posted by: Jo | Feb 24 2025 22:36 utc | 259 Jo @ all of the above. Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 22:43 utc | 260 US resolution at UN fails the sniff test. Best thing Trump could do is make an agreement with Russia not to involve the US if any of the EU States currently supplying money and weapons to 404 require a slap on the wrist. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 24 2025 23:10 utc | 261 7 Limericks from the Borderlands Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Feb 24 2025 23:11 utc | 262 From Twitter. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 23:16 utc | 263 @Mark2 Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Feb 24 2025 23:19 utc | 264 Dr. Gilbert Doctorow reports Trump shot his peace chances with Russia in he foot today in and after his talks with Macron:
And there’s more. So far Doctorow reports there’s been no official reaction; he thinks one or several will appear tomorrow. Trump’s words today show why Russia sees the Outlaw US Empire as agreement incapable because it has less than zero credibility. Trump might say tomorrow that he was merely telling Macron what he wanted to hear, but that excuse worsens the situation. The Riyadh meeting was to begin a series of confidence building actions by both sides. Trump just undermined all that today. The betrayal of Syria is the first signal that there has been an agreement between Russia, US and Zionist lobby. You give us Syria, we give you part of Ukraine and business plans. Russia is an oligarchic state. There is no grain of patriotism in the government. Posted by: Peđa C | Feb 24 2025 23:29 utc | 266 I know when i’m over the target by the amount of flak. Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2025 23:29 utc | 267 @ karlof1 | Feb 24 2025 23:20 utc | 265 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 24 2025 23:35 utc | 269 Putin is getting fucked like he was in Minsk 2 the best he can do is declare war, mobilise and reach Odessa cause Europe isn’t hiding it’s goal of high intensity war with Russia in 10-15yrs and is actively preparing for it Posted by: spider | Feb 24 2025 23:43 utc | 270 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 24 2025 23:35 utc | 269 Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 24 2025 23:49 utc | 271 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2025 23:20 utc | 265 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2025 23:54 utc | 272 @ Posted by: bored | Feb 24 2025 18:32 utc | 214 Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 24 2025 23:59 utc | 273 Posted by: spider | Feb 24 2025 23:43 utc | 270 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 25 2025 0:00 utc | 274 Great news for all the Trump skeptics here! Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 25 2025 0:02 utc | 275 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2025 23:20 utc | 265
Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 24 2025 23:49 utc | 271
Didn’t we just witness the USA sending a questionnaire to their EU allies asking how many troops each could commit to peacekeeping in 404? The answer as far as I recall was crickets. Posted by: jonku | Feb 25 2025 0:07 utc | 276 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2025 23:20 utc | 265 Posted by: Naive | Feb 25 2025 0:13 utc | 277 Peace keeping force? Posted by: Naive | Feb 25 2025 0:19 utc | 278 @ karlof1 | Feb 24 2025 23:20 utc | 265 with the Doctorow link…thx Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 0:26 utc | 279 This whole ukrainian gig has been a english and eu fraudsters scam by the elite, to rip off large amounts of yankee dollers, Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 25 2025 0:27 utc | 280 Zelensky offered Ukrainian “rare earth” in a coke-addled rant and Trump is the ultimate troll/bully who jumped in and said “Okay!!!” Posted by: NigelTufnel11 | Feb 25 2025 0:35 utc | 281 Thanks for all the replies, even the inane ones. I just posted “Zarubin Interviews Putin”, which Doctorow mentions and doesn’t include anything on the Macron/Trump front since Putin was deeply involved in another meeting at the time. Vladimiri Putin says he wants peace. Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 25 2025 0:43 utc | 283 Dumbest fucking time to be pro-Russia. They just blew through all their Cold War era arsenal, hundreds of thousands of casualties, and economic troubles with their oligarchs and the war having completely sucked the country dry. Posted by: Henry Dorsett Case | Feb 25 2025 0:43 utc | 284 Dr. Gilbert Doctorow reports Trump shot his peace chances with Russia in he foot today in and after his talks with Macron…
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 25 2025 0:45 utc | 286 psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 0:26 utc | 279– Dumbest fucking time to be pro-Russia. They just blew through all their Cold War era arsenal, hundreds of thousands of casualties, and economic troubles with their oligarchs and the war having completely sucked the country dry. Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 25 2025 0:50 utc | 288 When Putin and Trump meet they’re going to look at each other and go … “Let’s do a deal.” Posted by: NigelTufnel11 | Feb 25 2025 0:50 utc | 289 this ukraine settlement is solely so that he and putin can jointly loot ukraine of natural resources, in the process securing big contracts for his companies. this invasion was always economic for russia, and thanks to trump they can share the spoils. Posted by: messigician | Feb 25 2025 0:52 utc | 290 LoveDonbass@274….any evidence that Russia is hunting down (way too funny) NATO officer’s, where do you get this information…..Russia has not killed Ukie top military brass, that would be bad form, but they spare no measure to root out the NATO guys, pure fantasy on your part. Russia can’t even catch Tiny Dancer and he’s a nobody that needs a good slap on the bum, too harsh? Ok, a slap on the wrist. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 25 2025 0:52 utc | 291 jonku | Feb 25 2025 0:07 utc | 276– Posted by: Henry Dorsett Case | Feb 25 2025 0:43 utc | 284 Posted by: Naive | Feb 25 2025 0:56 utc | 293 Posted by: messigician | Feb 25 2025 0:52 utc | 289 Posted by: Naive | Feb 25 2025 1:02 utc | 295 From the latest karlof1 piece about Putin interview there is this Putin quote which I had not read confirmation of
I will keep reading Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 1:06 utc | 296 Russia kill 860 000 own citizens to start sell rare earth metal to US? That was the point of SMO? Posted by: Артур Морганюк | Feb 25 2025 1:06 utc | 297 I saw something up on yt about the Verkhovna Rada voting not to extend the kokaine klowns presidency, but when I went looking for it to post…. It was gone. Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 25 2025 1:07 utc | 298 Ha ha william gruff the multiple name troll has arrived, it was only a matter of time g’night all. Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 25 2025 1:10 utc | 299 Follow the money, Posted by: NigelTufnel11 | Feb 25 2025 1:12 utc | 300 |
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