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February 9, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-028
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I think you mean Slovakia, not Slovenia. *** Posted by: frithguild | Feb 10 2025 20:03 utc | 201 Tucker Carlson bombshell: Ukrainian military selling Nato provided arms to criminals across the world, including Mexican drug cartels. Furthermore, CIA is aware and profits itself. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 10 2025 20:10 utc | 202 *** — but Austria does have an army. Posted by: frithguild | Feb 10 2025 20:16 utc | 203 @155….Yeah but on a whole it is a burden. The payments for weapon industry from EU are peanuts compared to the net cost US invests in Posted by: Yarpos | Feb 10 2025 20:58 utc | 204 They are working hard on a Cuban Missile Crisis style naval showdown in the Baltic, the Killer Clowns are not going to stop until Russia hits them with a 38oz baseball bat to the teeth, whatever that will be. Hopefully it’s some bluff to butch up the west bargaining position, but something very stupid-dangerous is coming:
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#Winning Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 10 2025 21:29 utc | 206 Posted by: paddy | Feb 10 2025 19:48 utc | 203 Posted by: Milites | Feb 10 2025 21:37 utc | 207 The world system is in crisis: The so-called Pax Americana is facing challenges that are difficult to deal with. Posted by: test | Feb 10 2025 22:14 utc | 208 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 10 2025 21:10 utc | 208 Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 10 2025 22:15 utc | 209 I like when c1ue informs all of us. Posted by: test | Feb 10 2025 22:38 utc | 210 83 of 83 Russian drones supposedly shot down over Ukraine…ummm, yeah, I don’t think so. Posted by: reinhardVonSiegfried | Feb 10 2025 22:38 utc | 211 OT: the US Civil War / War Between the States was a continuation of the English Civil War. The North drew upon their East Anglia, Puritan roots. Their high literacy and intellectual inflexibility became fixated upon abolitionism. They follow in the tradition of Oliver Cromwell. Posted by: frithguild | Feb 10 2025 22:41 utc | 212 @199 Posted by: Newbie | Feb 10 2025 22:52 utc | 213 @too scents | Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:04:00 GMT | 154
Not really. The Europeans historically never spent that much on military/defense, instead they relied heavily on the presence of US troops and equipment in Europe. Posted by: James M. | Feb 10 2025 22:57 utc | 214 OT: Again sorry – the primary cause of the US Civil War was resolving the question of who could bear arms under the 2nd Amendment. The secondary cause was the first time mass production of firearms – 20,000 Sharps Carbines. Every War starts because of unknown effects of new technology. Posted by: frithguild | Feb 10 2025 23:04 utc | 215 frithguild@2304 Feb 10 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 11 2025 0:09 utc | 216 What’s happening in Ukraine? Posted by: Suresh | Feb 11 2025 0:33 utc | 217 Tucker Carlson bombshell: Ukrainian military selling Nato provided arms to criminals across the world, including Mexican drug cartels. Furthermore, CIA is aware and profits itself. Posted by: Just a Voice | Feb 11 2025 0:44 utc | 218 Yes. Dronewar I has a certain right to it. May it be that it precludes WWIII. Posted by: frithguild | Feb 11 2025 0:52 utc | 219 Tucker Carlson bombshell: Ukrainian military selling Nato provided arms to criminals across the world, including Mexican drug cartels. Furthermore, CIA is aware and profits itself. Posted by: PalmaSailor | Feb 11 2025 2:19 utc | 220 With Trump donating free MOABs to the Kill The Kids Fund, be weird if a few made it all the way to 404, think of it as a weapons exchange thingie all on the up and up….can a Mirage carry one? 404 got their first delivery today, and a few more F16s. Likely just mere pin pricks on the road to attrition…… Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 11 2025 3:44 utc | 221 Engels airbase and a large refinery in the Saratov region burning……….again. I don’t understand after repeated attacks on those targets, how can Russia at least not try hardening air defense there? Posted by: bored | Feb 11 2025 4:24 utc | 222 Ukrainian forces are advancing in some areas –
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Russia is setting up more of its soldiers to be killed because it is reluctant to go after the supply routes of the Ukrainian forces. Posted by: MiniMO | Feb 11 2025 5:17 utc | 224 The problem with NATO is that it is a tethering alliance, constraining American power on the continent. Posted by: too scents | Feb 11 2025 6:14 utc | 225 Why are attacks not carried out on railway and automobile border crossings? There are no more than ten railway crossings where trains change bogies from one gauge to another. Why have the bridges on the Dnieper River not been destroyed yet? There are no more than twenty of them. It is clear to any sane person – interrupt the supply lines and the enemy will have nothing to fight with. Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 11 2025 7:04 utc | 226 Posted by: assistent | Feb 11 2025 7:50 utc | 233 Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 11 2025 9:55 utc | 227 Drumpff wants Ukraine’s minerals in return for all the kind help America has given. Posted by: Jack M | Feb 11 2025 10:09 utc | 228 Posted by: Jack M | Feb 11 2025 10:09 utc | 236 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2025 10:42 utc | 229 Posted by: Shadowbanned2022 | Feb 11 2025 4:39 utc | 228 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 11 2025 10:42 utc | 230
“Shadow Fleet Ships” are majority wise just regular ships flagged, managed and owned by various different countries. Just like all other shipping crossing the oceans. Posted by: MAKK | Feb 11 2025 10:54 utc | 231 From a 2022 discussion elsewhere: Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 11 2025 11:04 utc | 232 At the same time, the enemy has resumed aerial and satellite reconnaissance of Crimea, the Kherson region and the Black Sea. Posted by: rk | Feb 11 2025 11:39 utc | 233 DS map update: Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 11 2025 11:45 utc | 234 Trump: Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2025 13:59 utc | 235 @frithguild Posted by: cullenbaker | Feb 11 2025 15:02 utc | 236 Engels airbase and a large refinery in the Saratov region burning……….again. I don’t understand after repeated attacks on those targets, how can Russia at least not try hardening air defense there? Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 11 2025 15:28 utc | 237 cullenbaker@237…….the Brits play the long game, The House of Zion Lords has ruled in the name of the Families for hundreds of years, extracting the spoils. An addiction of greed power and control if one ever existed. The Brits abolished slavery in the mid 1830’s and had the US north south at each other’s throats over it (a well worn excuse at least) within thirty years….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 11 2025 15:34 utc | 238 I wouldn’t put anything past Nato – and their vile Neo-Nazi ran dictatorship in Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 15:45 utc | 239 I’m no fan of the Zionist Musk, but here he has a point – the dictator Zelensky knows fine well in an election ( a democratic one that is) he would not get re-elected to office- so he’s using any excuse to avoid one. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 15:48 utc | 240 The American taxpayer is funding not, his own country and services – but continuous US governments nasty agendas abroad, America like many nations now needs a revolution. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 15:52 utc | 241 The rare earths scam being peddled by Trump is simply a cover to justify the real objective. Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 11 2025 15:56 utc | 242 I partly understand this from Musk – yet the avid Zionist doesn’t speak out about Israel – Musk’s boss Trump wants to steal Gaza, and speak x-amount of money on buying Greenland – whilst back-handedly threatening Canada and Panama – immigration might be a problem in the US, but the US causes mayhem around the globe – stop doing that first and foremost. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 15:57 utc | 243 Ukrainian and ex-Ukrainian troops – as we have seen – mostly turn out to be assassins or terrorists – they’ll fit right in with the US/Nato/Israel/Turkey other puppet killers, such as HTS, ISIS etc – and they even have a brand new training ground – to hone their evil trade in, in Syria. Expect a Gladio style attack on Europe from this lot – possibly planned by Nato and the US – to put fear and tension into the minds of European citizens – to allow severe laws and restrictions to be placed upon the citizens of Europe – many European nations now need revolutions – to clean the current crop of politicians, and Atlanticists out. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 16:04 utc | 244 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 15:45 utc | 240 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2025 16:18 utc | 245 unimperator@246…..you know Russia loves it’s treaties and agreements with its partners, so LOST applies to everyone sailing around out there….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 11 2025 16:28 utc | 246 @ Posted by: Jack M | Feb 11 2025 10:09 utc | 228 Posted by: fnord | Feb 11 2025 16:52 utc | 247 A private Gulfstream jet has landed in Moscow, which is associated with Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special envoy for the Middle East. Now it seems to be confirmed that the US Ambassador to Moscow is in the Russian Foreign Ministry building. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 11 2025 17:12 utc | 248 OT-Cause of US Civil War Posted by: Samu | Feb 11 2025 18:54 utc | 249 I fear that the same mechanism also affects relations among different cultures and makes resolution of international antagonisms extremely difficult. Posted by: frithguild | Feb 11 2025 20:37 utc | 250 @ Samu Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 11 2025 21:16 utc | 251 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 11 2025 3:44 utc | 221 Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 11 2025 22:42 utc | 252 Badjoke // 253 Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 12 2025 5:56 utc | 253 Re 235 imperator quotes Trump: 249 YetAnotherAnon — Witkoff in Moscow. Lavieja – apparently he’d gone to negotiate the release of some Yank doing jail time there. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 12 2025 13:57 utc | 256 Not again…what the hell? Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Feb 12 2025 15:32 utc | 257 Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Feb 12 2025 15:32 utc | 258 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 12 2025 15:51 utc | 258 257 YetAnotherAnon. Thanks for that clarification. Alexander Mercouris has read the entire Ryabkov statement a day or so ago, but I don’t remember which podcast, his own or the one on The Duran with Alex Christoforou and guest, Aaron Mate. Ryabkov’s statement sounded spot on to me. As this week was unfolding I was pretty disappointed in the Administration. It appeared like dumpster fire diplomacy by the Americans. The American positions were all over the place and everyone after the first day was caveating their statement that nothing they would say would constrain in the president. While I still think the comments earlier in the week gave away the American position, I think this approach of massing the Americans this week did a good job of addressing some domestic stuff, but all allowing them to flush out where the europeans are on a deal. Now you can walk away with an assessment of what everyone’s starting position is towards coming up with some creative ideas. Now the Americans can move much quicker to get to a deal than the normal methodical consensus building process. Posted by: True Intention | Feb 16 2025 5:31 utc | 260 |
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