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February 2, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-023

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 2 2025 20:19 utc | 83
Biden’s EV mandates and destabilising subsidies for them have brought the car industry to the brink, not Trump. There’s a reason so many UAW members voted for him, helping him secure key swing states.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 2 2025 21:27 utc | 101

YetAnotherAnon @99
Reading your post I noticed a typo in a sentence of my post @97
NOTE
There is no economic advantage for the US to make cars “in the US” correction should be “in Canada”.
There are US manufacturers that have manufacturing facilities in Canada producing cars and parts for the US market. These should be closed and production relocated to US.

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:34 utc | 102

Posted by: Manowar | Feb 2 2025 19:33 utc | 69
Obviously you don’t undestand what is a war of attrition. Like most westerners you react emotionnaly.
Kursk is a meat grinder. There is no reason to close a meat grinder in a war of attrition.
Bargaining trump in case of negotiations? Which negotiations? There are no negotiations. Russia said that there will be no negotiations as long as the ukronazis are present in Kursk Oblast. One more reason to keep the meat grinder open. Soon 60 thousands ukronazis eliminated there. Not bad.

Posted by: Naive | Feb 2 2025 21:37 utc | 103

The Nazis also used Zyklon B pellets, which turned into a lethal gas when exposed to air. Zyklon B was used in the gas chambers at Auschwitz.
Posted by: canuck | Feb 2 2025 14:39 utc | 4
A moments silence for all the typhus bearing fleas killed by Zyklon B.

Posted by: Ново З | Feb 2 2025 21:42 utc | 104

People in the US are more concerned about things closer to home, like the first air to air crash since 1986, whose probable cause was the increasing impact of hiring people based on immutable characteristics or personal whimsy.
Posted by: Milites | Feb 2 2025 21:24 utc | 100
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Yes, Americans are easily led around by domestic drama like public mass shootings and supposed “terrorist” events created by the FBI.
In between elections, it is necessary to keep people divided and at each other’s throats. Demonizing their fellow citizen who in the whole world has the most in common with them. No wonder so many Americans take so many anti-depressants.
China doesn’t have those problems which is why it is the future. A society mostly marching in unison towards a shared vision.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 22:00 utc | 105

Yes, Americans are easily led around by domestic drama like public mass shootings and supposed “terrorist” events created by the FBI.
In between elections, it is necessary to keep people divided and at each other’s throats. Demonizing their fellow citizen who in the whole world has the most in common with them. No wonder so many Americans take so many anti-depressants.
China doesn’t have those problems which is why it is the future. A society mostly marching in unison towards a shared vision.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 22:00 utc | 105
👏👏👏👏

Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 2 2025 22:12 utc | 106

Ah…we still have an Odessa dreamer, Michael J. Lines have been frozen with zero movement at Kherson at the very wide river. But somehow the Odessa dreamers see a city 120 km west falling anyday now.
Where is WhirlX? He promised Odessa by early spring 2024.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 2 2025 22:14 utc | 107

The defense of Seversk is collapsing.
Next will be Chasov Yar.

Posted by: Naive | Feb 2 2025 22:14 utc | 108

Another poor day for the RFA with 4.8 kmsq taken. Much worse than recent months. Minor gains at Dachne, at what I’m calling the Dnipro front, and near Terny.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 2 2025 22:16 utc | 109

When it comes to England v. Germany, the Brits bombed first on civilian centers.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2025 20:12 utc | 80
Another guy that needs to read some history. After Poland, Germany expanded bombing to other countries:
In May 1940, Germany bombed Rotterdam in the Netherlands during its invasion of Western Europe.
Following this, German bombers targeted cities in Belgium and France.
The first German air raid on Britain took place on August 16, 1940, when the Luftwaffe bombed targets in southern England, including military airfields. The first British bombing of Berlin occurred on August 25, 1940, after a German plane mistakenly bombed London. This escalated to full-scale bombing campaigns on both sides.
Poland’s leaders outsmarting themselves is irrelevant when it comes to the Germans terror bombing civilians.

Posted by: Victor Scarpia | Feb 2 2025 22:18 utc | 110

@LoveDonbass | Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:00:00 GMT | 105

China doesn’t have those problems which is why it is the future. A society mostly marching in unison towards a shared vision.

Indeed it is. But don’t tell that to an American primacist, his head might explode if he has to learn Mandarin.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 2 2025 22:20 utc | 111

Auf den Friedhoefen ist nicht genug Platzs fuer ppp Armee.
In Nikolaev auf Anordnung des Buergermeisters der Mischkowskoje-Friedhof war geraeumt.
Alles wurde zusammen mit den Denkmaelern und Kreuzen zur Seite geschoben.
Jetzt gibt es neuen Platz fuer Tote…”
Source: Telegram channel “Man im Schatten”.
Attrition in full gear.

Posted by: Naive | Feb 2 2025 22:24 utc | 112

@Naive | Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:14:00 GMT | 108

The defense of Seversk is collapsing.
Next will be Chasov Yar.

Good, it won’t be long now and Donetsk will be secured. In the meantime, the Ukrainians are being rapidly de-militarized.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 2 2025 22:31 utc | 113

Jerr @ 35: “Thus, the Canadian and Mexican auto plants will cut back significantly or close laying off 10s of thousands. In US plants will increase production”
Shhh! You are upsetting the “Free Traders”, who want cheap goods manufactured by exploited underpaid workers in other countries without any protections for workers or the environment. In fact, those “Free Traders” need those cheap goods, because the only job they can get is as a greeter at a Walmart selling imported goods.
To be serious for a moment, you are correct Jerr, but the timeframe in President Trump’s mind is probably much longer. It will take years to (re)build factories and train new workers. The key point is that all those business leaders who have been making a quick buck by offshoring production — and thus costing Americans their jobs and costing the US Govt lost tax revenues — are going to begin to rethink if that is really their best plan.
In the long run, no country can run permanently the kind of huge Trade Deficit which the US now has. Production Precedes Consumption, and the US needs to get back to producing things. The fuss over these tariffs is just a small step towards putting the US back onto a sustainable economic path.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 2 2025 22:41 utc | 114

*** Trump is a lot of things. He is not a fool. He’s not going to double down on stupid. Part of me hopes he is running out the clock on the Neocons and the Zionists ***
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 18:36 utc | 58
This makes sense because it will take time to detoxify the environment from justifications for Biden’s vindictive reactivity and absence of rational policy. Should the whole Maidan enterprise be seen as an unmitigated disaster, the biggest act of diplomatic malpractice in history and the culmination if a cascade of intelligence failures, the task of rooting out and figuratively decapitating everyone in the DOD and intelligence services that supported project Ukraine will become an easier task. One can hope.

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 2 2025 23:07 utc | 115

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 20:13 utc | 81
I think this was the same dude who worked some summer jobs in college and thinks that in a 24 hour plant you just increase shift times to 10 hours. Then he got the Canada – Mexico tariff cost wrong. But also doesn’t understand how cross border trade developed under NAFTA to the benefit of US corporations.
This kind of quality in comment is right up there with the “Russia isn’t taking territory fast enough” as if a slow down in territory gained during the winter months wasn’t easily predictable, especially given the Russian strategy and tactics that have been on display for like two years now.

Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2025 23:08 utc | 116

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 2 2025 23:07 utc | 115
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While being accused of having TDS, I know Trump quite well having studied him and his past deeply since 2015.
He is an egoist and supremely self-confident bordering on delusion (publicly).
That is why he doesn’t want to be seen around losers. He prefers the company of “winners” as they are who he models himself to be.
It’s not that he doesn’t have compassion. He does. He just doesn’t feel pity for the Palestinians or the Ukrainians. In his mind, America must do well in every scenario because he is the President, and he doesn’t want to leave room for the historical record to ignore him or paint him as less than competent.
Greenland, Panama Canal, and Canada are all “Louisiana Purchase” type legacy moves.
World peace would set a bar that every subsequent American President would struggle to achieve. It’s not because he abhors violence or death, it’s because it is the “high ground” and Trump always tries to take the high ground as early and long as possible.
Ukraine is a loser’s loser. Trump doesn’t want to be photographed with Zelensky who is obviously a penis-piano playing clown. Trump doesn’t want to get loser cooties.
On the contrary, I think Trump genuinely respects Putin and Xi. He would happily destroy them in competition, but as opponents, he respects both men. He does not respect anyone from the EU except Orban, but I think Victor’s routine (an Eastern European Steve Bannon) is starting to wear thin.
I don’t think Trump respects Bibi, but due to the circumstances of Zionism in the US government, he has to play along. Bibi is a weak man, a political scumbag, and a liar. After moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, Trump was more popular in Israel than Bibi. Trump has no use for ideologues, whatever the ideology may be.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 23:30 utc | 117

Posted by: Milites | Feb 2 2025 21:24 utc | 100
Please stop with the DEI crap re: the mid-air collision. The ATC tower was undermanned, the chopper was piloted by an experienced white male officer.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2025 23:33 utc | 118

Not sure how this tariff thing will work out but I suspect it is 4 years too late.
Canada exports gas and oil to the USA but with Europe now desperate for gas a ready substitute market may be available. The destruction of nord str6eam has changed the balance.
It imports cars but China is ready and willing to supply.
Mexico now has a brics option.
Trump had a slim but real chance of turning the ship in 2017 but it is much slimmer now.
Coved the war in Ukraine and the continuing growth of China have intervened.

Posted by: Watcher | Feb 2 2025 23:42 utc | 119

Posted by: Watcher | Feb 2 2025 23:42 utc | 119
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Time is undefeated.
Canada also exports electricity to the US.
The auto industry is a big deal in Eastern Canada. A lot of jobs are tied to that.
Ontario has many metal stamping die and plastic injection mold builders. These are specialized machines that years ago the American automakers tried having made in China but the quality and lead times were an issue. A locally made tool can be modified or repaired locally. With non-stop production, that sort of thing is important.
Downtime can cost tens of thousands of dollars, particularly because the retarded globalist idea of “just-in-time delivery” means that no one keeps backup stock in the event of a disruption, and with unionized workers, labor costs continue even when production has ground to a halt.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 23:51 utc | 120

***** Lex #116
“think this was the same dude who worked some summer jobs in college and thinks that in a 24 hour plant you just increase shift times to 10 hours.”
****
Friend you are delusional about manufacturing.
I only worked in one factory that was 24 hours a day production, and it had three shifts. Typically they’ll be two 8 hour shifts a day that can be ramped up to 12 hours 7 days. The usual ramp up is 8 hours to 10 hours per shift, the next level is Saturday. The actual way they ramp up depends on their union agreements on overtime work.
FYI – worked both just summers and year round.

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 3 2025 0:11 utc | 121

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 23:30 utc | 117
A pretty accurate dossier in my estimation. I would add that Trump displays Asbergers tendencies. This explains his narrow range of response to various stimulus. Many try to tag him with Cluster Bs but that doesn’t fit because his behavior doesn’tever get disorganized. This makes him misunderstood, especially by those who have the strongest reactions against him. It also doesn’t help when the New Yorker in him takes over.

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 0:16 utc | 122

Posted by: bored | Feb 2 2025 14:18 utc | 2
So why didn’t the Ukrainians just slaughter them with gas, or bullets? They control Sudzha, supposedly. Much cheaper than wasting scarce, expensive resources like Himars.
This looks like desperation time. Stage a provocation on the way out while retreating … coincidentally, Dima’s afternoon video stated that the Russians have established fire control over the main supply road from Sumy to Sudzha. That’s rather deep inside Ukrainian territory, 10’s of kms away from the border. Which begs the question – has the UAF lost control over its territory near Sumy? Are Russian special forces dug in much closer than these mappers show?
Seems that the end of the Kursk adventure may finally be in sight.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 0:17 utc | 123

@ Milites | Feb 2 2025 15:45 utc | 17
Is the sun using Russian videos portrayed as AFU again? Wouldn’t be the second or third time.

Posted by: boneless | Feb 3 2025 0:22 utc | 124

Easy to figure out. Trump’s art of the deal: You get Ukraine, I get Greenland. So simple.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Feb 3 2025 0:31 utc | 125

**** elmagnostic @ 125
” You get Ukraine, I get Greenland. So simple.”
*******
Or the deal is, “You get the Black Sea I get the Artic Ocean”.

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 3 2025 1:18 utc | 126

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 20:13 utc | 81
They will increase their US production for new inventory. Once they increase production they won’t purchase foreign again. Canadian and Mexican auto plants will cut back on production or close.
<= I believe Mexico and Canada will just find new markets.. they will do that by cutting into USA markets in now on-going foreign places.. When ever you try to monopolize a market the competition will find ways to circumvent it or out produce it.. Mexico and Canada, like Russia have already done that. The challenged will find new markets for their products and when denied resources in one place they will find different resources from another place. Worse when those Mexican and Canadian cars do infringe a market where USA products are sold,the demand for USA exported products.. will decline. the whole idea [that to make America great again it is necessary to deprive Americans of products by pricing them out of the market or by eliminating and blocking competition] falls in the category of "intention does not compute with reality". Look what just happened in AI.. The Chinese, with very little capital, and a very small development team, just quashed the $500 billion four AI giants plan to completely monopolize the AI market. The Chinese, Deep Seek II AI product not only does AI it also does reasoning. so its AIR. . The problem is the situation is much more than a better mouse trap and also a dynamically threatening marketing method (open source). Open source represents a very powerful economic defense against being isolated by monopoly powers. . The Chinese Deep Seek II product attacked the USA dominated copyright and patent protected AI market by giving their product away for free. Open source by Netscape whipped Microsoft in the early days of the Internet and it was that whipping which caused Disney and Microsoft to push government for more powerful Copyrights and Patents and for lengthening the drop-dead dates when those monopoly powers would expire (from 17 years to 100 yrs or more years). If China invents and offers the technology it invents to the USA governed America for free, China will still win because it can produce the products the technology enables and transport the produced products to the USA governed America cheaper than the USA industries can make such products, this is true imo, even if the USA is using the Chinese technology to produce the products. IOWs, the Chinese have a monopoly on manufacturing because they now have trained and experienced manufacturing people..the wall Street crowds have depended on war, regime change, and monopoly powers to keep both foreign and domestic competition out of USA governed America; but in the process they have de industrialized and bankrupted USA governed America; worse, use of monopoly power will continue by the Wall street crowd. This will continue until Wall Street companies can no longer compete in the global market place. The Chinese can afford to give the benefit of their research and development to the world for free, because their manufacturing capacity, production quality and manpower capabilities are cheaper and better. They can produce the products cheaper than the monopoly powered USA industries. The Chinese have developed 2nd to none talent not only capable to invent things, but also to able to engineer efficient manufacturing processes. Blocking competition and outlawing foreign products that compete with domestic industry is the wrong way to go? The outcome of sanctioning Russia (blocking competition) backfired.. the demand for cheap Russian oil and gas has not disappeared under sanctions, its just been put on hold because no one thus far can produce that oil and gas and deliver it as cheaply and as reliably as can the Russians. Russian manufacturing is stronger, and more self-reliant than before Sanctions. ..Worse the outcome, because Russia has shown the world how to survive without access to western markets. Trumps team needs to wake up. because Wall Street will continue to press for monopoly power. and Monopoly power will promote the stock market but it will sink America. Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:06 utc | 97 The Canadian industrialist know the US will increase production and close their Canadian plants . <=dream on ... I will believe it when I see it happen. Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:34 utc | 102 These should be closed and production relocated to US. <= you are going to have to move the entire production force to make such a move viable? factories are competitive for only so long. If everyone is moved from Canada to the USA that means no new jobs for us people.. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 22:00 utc | 105 China doesn't have those problems which is why it is the future. A society mostly marching in unison towards a shared vision. <= china has problems but efficient industrial production is not one of them. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 2 2025 22:41 utc | 114 The key point is that all those business leaders who have been making a quick buck by off shoring production -- and thus costing Americans their jobs and costing the US Govt lost tax revenues -- are going to begin to rethink if that is really their best plan. <= dream on. knowledge. reasoning, production-efficiency and markets have gone global.business leaders are not immune to globalization. The irony is that the hegemonic distribution of the USD<=actually promoted globalization. Everybody uses or references the USD so things can be priced in USD. There is no reason to produce anything or to offer services anyplace unless the cost of finished goods or the value of services offered are competitive on the world market. The people on the globe are learning how to deny monopoly power. Engineering in India is equivalent to engineering in the USA; production in China is efficient and so. The USA governed America cannot expect to supply the world market with not-competitive products any more. At the moment it seems China will supply the world? IMO, Trumps ideas are based on divide and conquer strategies such strategies are no longer valid. The nation best able to produce products or best able to offer services will be the suppliers of global markets and nation state monopolies will be insufficient to stop that. Tariffs will not stop that.. The most efficient producer will prevail no matter the monopoly powers created and used to prevent it. The best a nation can do today is to become a specialist in producing one or two products and just as soon as it does, some other nation will learn how to make the same thing more efficiently.. WE are reaching a point where the political systems and production systems and the knowledge discovery and generation systems are merging.. That the world is round is known everywhere by everybody, but in its day only a very few knew. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 2 2025 22:41 utc | 114 The key point is that all those business leaders who have been making a quick buck by off-shoring production -- and thus costing Americans their jobs and costing the US Govt lost tax revenues --<= the Loss of jobs and shut down of factories is a characteristic of a competitive world. The West ventured into the East in order to gain a competitive advantage.. as it turned out the cheap eastern world turned the tables on the exploitive west..the east is exploiting it monopoly in manufacturing. This response of nations is characteristic of all who are exploited. Joe in country A produces product A for 9.00 per unit, six months into the production, Nac in Country B discovers how to produce a replacement for product A for $3.00/ unit.. The factory in A shuts down and a new factory starts up in Country B. Investors in a A lose their shirts because monopoly power can no longer protect their investments. Posted by: elmagnostic | Feb 3 2025 0:31 utc | 125 Easy to figure out. Trump's art of the deal: You get Ukraine, I get Greenland. So simple. <=why not an oil and gas and mineral pipeline from Russia through Alaska to the strategic reserve in exchange for all of Ukraine? Greenland would not be needed?

Posted by: snake | Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc | 127

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 20:13 utc | 81
They will increase their US production for new inventory. Once they increase production they won’t purchase foreign again. Canadian and Mexican auto plants will cut back on production or close.
<= I believe Mexico and Canada will just find new markets.. they will do that by cutting into USA markets in now on-going foreign places.. When ever you try to monopolize a market the competition will find ways to circumvent it or out produce it.. Mexico and Canada, like Russia have already done that. The challenged will find new markets for their products and when denied resources in one place they will find different resources from another place. Worse when those Mexican and Canadian cars do infringe a market where USA products are sold,the demand for USA exported products.. will decline. the whole idea [that to make America great again it is necessary to deprive Americans of products by pricing them out of the market or by eliminating and blocking competition] falls in the category of "intention does not compute with reality". Look what just happened in AI.. The Chinese, with very little capital, and a very small development team, just quashed the $500 billion four AI giants plan to completely monopolize the AI market. The Chinese, Deep Seek II AI product not only does AI it also does reasoning. so its AIR. . The problem is the situation is much more than a better mouse trap and also a dynamically threatening marketing method (open source). Open source represents a very powerful economic defense against being isolated by monopoly powers. . The Chinese Deep Seek II product attacked the USA dominated copyright and patent protected AI market by giving their product away for free. Open source by Netscape whipped Microsoft in the early days of the Internet and it was that whipping which caused Disney and Microsoft to push government for more powerful Copyrights and Patents and for lengthening the drop-dead dates when those monopoly powers would expire (from 17 years to 100 yrs or more years). If China invents and offers the technology it invents to the USA governed America for free, China will still win because it can produce the products the technology enables and transport the produced products to the USA governed America cheaper than the USA industries can make such products, this is true imo, even if the USA is using the Chinese technology to produce the products. IOWs, the Chinese have a monopoly on manufacturing because they now have trained and experienced manufacturing people..the wall Street crowds have depended on war, regime change, and monopoly powers to keep both foreign and domestic competition out of USA governed America; but in the process they have de industrialized and bankrupted USA governed America; worse, use of monopoly power will continue by the Wall street crowd. This will continue until Wall Street companies can no longer compete in the global market place. The Chinese can afford to give the benefit of their research and development to the world for free, because their manufacturing capacity, production quality and manpower capabilities are cheaper and better. They can produce the products cheaper than the monopoly powered USA industries. The Chinese have developed 2nd to none talent not only capable to invent things, but also to able to engineer efficient manufacturing processes. Blocking competition and outlawing foreign products that compete with domestic industry is the wrong way to go? The outcome of sanctioning Russia (blocking competition) backfired.. the demand for cheap Russian oil and gas has not disappeared under sanctions, its just been put on hold because no one thus far can produce that oil and gas and deliver it as cheaply and as reliably as can the Russians. Russian manufacturing is stronger, and more self-reliant than before Sanctions. ..Worse the outcome, because Russia has shown the world how to survive without access to western markets. Trumps team needs to wake up. because Wall Street will continue to press for monopoly power. and Monopoly power will promote the stock market but it will sink America. Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:06 utc | 97 The Canadian industrialist know the US will increase production and close their Canadian plants . <=dream on ... I will believe it when I see it happen. Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:34 utc | 102 These should be closed and production relocated to US. <= you are going to have to move the entire production force to make such a move viable? factories are competitive for only so long. If everyone is moved from Canada to the USA that means no new jobs for us people.. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 22:00 utc | 105 China doesn't have those problems which is why it is the future. A society mostly marching in unison towards a shared vision. <= china has problems but efficient industrial production is not one of them. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 2 2025 22:41 utc | 114 The key point is that all those business leaders who have been making a quick buck by off shoring production -- and thus costing Americans their jobs and costing the US Govt lost tax revenues -- are going to begin to rethink if that is really their best plan. <= dream on. knowledge. reasoning, production-efficiency and markets have gone global.business leaders are not immune to globalization. The irony is that the hegemonic distribution of the USD<=actually promoted globalization. Everybody uses or references the USD so things can be priced in USD. There is no reason to produce anything or to offer services anyplace unless the cost of finished goods or the value of services offered are competitive on the world market. The people on the globe are learning how to deny monopoly power. Engineering in India is equivalent to engineering in the USA; production in China is efficient and so. The USA governed America cannot expect to supply the world market with not-competitive products any more. At the moment it seems China will supply the world? IMO, Trumps ideas are based on divide and conquer strategies such strategies are no longer valid. The nation best able to produce products or best able to offer services will be the suppliers of global markets and nation state monopolies will be insufficient to stop that. Tariffs will not stop that.. The most efficient producer will prevail no matter the monopoly powers created and used to prevent it. The best a nation can do today is to become a specialist in producing one or two products and just as soon as it does, some other nation will learn how to make the same thing more efficiently.. WE are reaching a point where the political systems and production systems and the knowledge discovery and generation systems are merging.. That the world is round is known everywhere by everybody, but in its day only a very few knew. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 2 2025 22:41 utc | 114 The key point is that all those business leaders who have been making a quick buck by off-shoring production -- and thus costing Americans their jobs and costing the US Govt lost tax revenues --<= the Loss of jobs and shut down of factories is a characteristic of a competitive world. The West ventured into the East in order to gain a competitive advantage.. as it turned out the cheap eastern world turned the tables on the exploitive west..the east is exploiting it monopoly in manufacturing. This response of nations is characteristic of all who are exploited. Joe in country A produces product A for 9.00 per unit, six months into the production, Nac in Country B discovers how to produce a replacement for product A for $3.00/ unit.. The factory in A shuts down and a new factory starts up in Country B. Investors in a A lose their shirts because monopoly power can no longer protect their investments. Posted by: elmagnostic | Feb 3 2025 0:31 utc | 125 Easy to figure out. Trump's art of the deal: You get Ukraine, I get Greenland. So simple. <=why not an oil and gas and mineral pipeline from Russia through Alaska to the strategic reserve in exchange for all of Ukraine? Greenland would not be needed?

Posted by: snake | Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc | 128

@ elmagnostic | Feb 3 2025 0:31 utc | 125
i am sure denmark, europe and russia will be all fine with that, lol… wishful thinking.. are you american too by chance??

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2025 1:29 utc | 130

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 23:30 utc | 117
Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 0:16 utc | 122
While I agree that the impending trade wars, Trump tariffs etc. Are very important, the overall discussion has diverted greatly from the SMO in Ukraine.
Anyhow, for what it is worth here are some of my current thoughts, ranging from the general situation on the battlefield to the dreaded Orishnik -yes, I cannot let this one me be moved to the back of my brain.
The Donbas etc.
Where I am in the mighty western hegemony, the MSM news about “plucky Ukraine” driving back the Moscals has become extremely muted of late. Of course, there are the odd snippets about ferocious fire fights in Kursk as the UAF take their heroic struggle onto Russian territory. But little about the real war in the Donbas. It seems as if things are not going too well for NATO/Ukraine there, so it is best to ignore these unpleasant developments. Western MSM consumers do not need to know that the powerful fortifications erected throughout the Donbas by NATO/Ukraine since 2014 are being systematically reduced and overrun by the RF army, leaving the hapless populations of these cities etc. to be enslaved by the despicable Putin regime. Where is the outraged commentary extoling human rights for these poor souls?
But, on a more positive note the UK (??)press (BBC and Guardian) are reporting that the North Koreans have been withdrawn from active fighting in Kursk because of the massive casualties they have suffered (during human wave attacks?).
“ That will learn them deluded Asians” is implied by this unmitigated bull shit masquerading as “news”. I have yet to see any comment by ANON, Julian , Ed4 or even anonymous himself on this important development.
Odessa and the Black Sea coast
Although not an explicit outcome of the SMO, the unequivocal control of this region (of once Ukraine) is imperative for RF before the war is ended. It is possible that negotiations could deliver this outcome, but I am doubtful of this unless the RF could present a credible military threat to the region. This would of coarse require the Russian army to cross the Dnieper (probably at more than one location), and I think that the overall RF strategy in the Donbas is directed towards this. I do not reckon that the RF is in any great hurry, but any negotiated peace deal with Ukraine (in whatever form) will meet Russian requirements-Trumpian or EU.UK bluster or not.
Orishnik and Yuzhmesh
JRL in many posts has very correctly not let up his assault on the western silence about this matter, and I commend him for his persistence.
The Orishnik system is based on an IRBM (probably derived from the old SS20), but delivers several warheads of presently unknown type. Whatever, the RF decided to use this new capability to demolish the Yuzhmesh facility and the business it was involved with. What exactly that business was is open to speculation, but the RF deemed it important enough to put an end to.
I am going to speculate here, but could it have been the assembly of nuclear warhead equipped missiles or drones? If so what is the origin of the nuclear warheads?
IMO it would have been completely reckless, but not necessarily illogical for NATO/Ukraine to undertake such a project, particularly if they plan to enter any”peace” negotiations from a “position of strength”.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 3 2025 1:43 utc | 131

@ james | Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc | 129 with the link, light on proof, showing negotiation between Russia and the US…thx
I read it and didn’t see any smoking gun. I don’t believe any Russia doors have been knocked on by the US because they don’t like the options they face and don’t yet have a plan in context of all the other moving parts in our world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 3 2025 1:51 utc | 132

@ psychohistorian | Feb 3 2025 1:51 utc | 132
i agree.. i left a comment on the article pointing out how putin and russia abide by laws and legalities and until ukraine changes the law on the book and has an actual head of state that is legit – i can’t see russia agreeing to anything in this set up.. it has to change first..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2025 1:54 utc | 133

There’s no letup in the Ukronazi assault on Russia. Just today according to Russian telegram channels, there was a ‘massive drone attack’ on Volgograd just after the Victory in the Battle of Stalingrad celebrations. They seem to have wrecked a Lukoil refinery which was their main target.

Posted by: bored | Feb 3 2025 1:58 utc | 134

@James – re: the link to the substack Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc
I read it, not bad writing, some of it sounds plausible, but who knows.
You have to judge Trump by his actions, not his words. And so far, it doesn’t look good for Ukraine:
1. USAID shut down – the latest is the website went dark, and Musk says “it has to die”
2. Rubio (SoS) first trip to Panama, not Europe, let alone Ukraine … signals a pullback to the Monroe doctrine
3. No signs of actual pressure on Russia, in fact, there appears to be a cutoff of economic aid to Ukraine combined with a lack of new escalations or even rhetoric against Russia.
It all points to Ukraine being way down the list of Trump’s priorities. I agree with the author that letting the war just take its course seems to be “the plan” to the extent that Trump has a plan. Perhaps that will nudge Zelensky to accept defeat but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 1:58 utc | 135

There’s no letup in the Ukronazi assault on Russia. Just today according to Russian telegram channels, there was a ‘massive drone attack’ on Volgograd just after the Victory in the Battle of Stalingrad celebrations. They seem to have wrecked a Lukoil refinery which was their main target.
Posted by: bored | Feb 3 2025 1:58 utc | 134
Yes, they’ve LOST on the battlefield. All theyve got left are drone attacks. But those attacks end up causing damage to their own towns and cities. Every time they attack Russia, there’s a ten-fold reply on Ukraine. I think the military generals in Kiev are rather silly. Don’t you?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 3 2025 2:06 utc | 136

@ Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 1:58 utc | 135
thanks… yes, i agree with what you say… some of the signs out of the usa here look very positive… appearances can be deceptive..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2025 2:11 utc | 137

Kursk significant not only in prime meat grinded but also in equipment destroyed. By March 15 overall 100000 more grinded and multiple times injured?
Wonder at what time does it become Syria like situation. Then distance doesn’t matter. Feel Odessa and freeze

Posted by: Michael J | Feb 3 2025 2:22 utc | 138

I just ran across this text in an article about the USAID website going dark:
Funding will soon dry up for NGOs and other entities that rely on USAID funds—some of which have been linked to furthering left-wing censorship efforts around the world and funding coups.
The veil is being torn open. This will become real interesting if MAGA branding differentiates itself by linking that type of activity with Drmocrats and RINOs

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 2:32 utc | 139

Dima’s latest report deserves some serious discussion, IMO.
Here is a recap:
1. The Russians established fire control using fiber-optic FPV drones over one of the major supply roads between Sumy and Sudzha. But not inside Russian borders … very close to the city of Sumy itself.
2. The fiber optic drones are destroying vehicles attempting to resupply the contingent of the UAF (and foreign mercs) still in Kursk.
3. While alternate supply roads exist, they are more stretched and some are dirt roads/farming trails.
4. The location of the destroyed vehicles is at least 10s of kilometers from current assessed Russian positions.
Begging the question – how did Russia manage to get so close to Sumy without being noticed? Fiber optic drones cant have that much range … for obvious reasons. They’re tethered by thin fiber optic cables to a mothership. I don’t know the practical range, but I can only guess it is a lot less than a normal FPV drone. Maybe a few hundred meters? Perhaps a kilometer, at best.
This all needs to be confirmed, as I can hear the cries of “Dima wrong!” but let’s just assume he’s correct … what sayeth ye?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 2:36 utc | 140

Just to throw out my theory … Ukraine no longer has effective control of the region to the North of Sumy, and Russian forces have embedded themselves a lot further south of the border than any of these mappers show. Enough to get FPV fiber optic drones right into the highway outside of Sumy.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 2:39 utc | 141

A quick google search suggests Russian fibre optic drones have a range of just over 12 miles (20k).

Posted by: Saul Goode | Feb 3 2025 3:18 utc | 142

Hope none y’all Merkins are going to look at your IRA or 401k tomorrow.
Just a guess…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2025 4:02 utc | 143

Regarding the fibre optic drones I’ve heard that they’ve managed to extend the range by linking the fibre optic drones to a more traditional radio controlled drone that acts as a mothership/signal relay. The mothership drone moves further out past the line of conflict and then deploys the fibre optic drone. the drone operator then puts the mothership drone into hover mode, switches over to the fibre optic drone and then hunts down targets

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 3 2025 4:31 utc | 144

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2025 23:33 utc | 118
“Please stop with the DEI crap re: the mid-air collision. The ATC tower was undermanned, the chopper was piloted by an experienced white male officer.”
Are you sure about that? The story I read says that the ATC system has been understaffed ever since Obama disqualified a pool of 3000 new ATC graduates because they were predominantly white and the Biden administration applied stricter diversity quotas on hiring when they came to power. You can’t deny that DEI hiring restrictions had some blame for chronic understaffing. That control tower was supposed to have a total crew of 30, but they have been operating with a crew of 18 staff.
And you are mistaken about the chopper pilot. The Army is withholding the name of the female pilot and there is no mention of her race:
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5281246/pentagon-jet-military-helicopter-collision

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 5:03 utc | 145

Posted by: snake | Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc | 127
<= I believe Mexico and Canada will just find new markets.. they will do that by cutting into USA markets in now on-going foreign places. That might have been a viable option 4 or 5 years ago, before COVID threw the world economy into a tailspin and the war in Ukraine destroyed the EU economy. Who is left to buy from Canada and Mexico? China doesn't buy, they sell. It sounds like a simple maneuver, finding new markets, but this is a different world.

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 5:17 utc | 146

English Outsider | Feb 2 2025 15:57 utc | 20
EO, as usual, beautifully and clearly presents the background of events in Ukraine. I have one quibble though; I believe that Germany had a lot to gain by cooperation with Russia, not by fighting it. The 1990s and until about 2015 German companies were investing in Russia, doing a lot of business there. There was no Russophobia if I remember.
Something happened to have Merkel and the German “deep state” turn so much around and to allow the destruction of that relationship with Russia. The secret special document that every German Chancellor was obliged to sign before taking office, (as described by Egon Bahr in his “Ostwarts und nichts vergessen”) may be the key. Which means that USA was behind it and Germany had no say. Perhaps a war is the only way out for the failing capitalist “West”?

Posted by: fanto | Feb 3 2025 5:19 utc | 147

Re: Gavin Longmuir @114,
I agreed the only solution for the economic problems facing the US is to bring production back to the US mainland, and that means several things need to be done in order to achieve that
1. control over the boarders – yes, they need to prevent illegal immigration and drugs, but more importantly they will need to prevent the smuggling of cheaper good into the US while they rebuild the industrial production until they can increase production enough that the costs begin to drop.
2. use tariffs as a threat to bring back production – I think the Trump admin’s eventual negotiation strategy will be to grant exceptions to tariffs for companies that bring “X” % of their production to the US. I.e. if you want to sell to the US you have to manufacture in the US. The idea would be to bring say 80% of production to the US and you get exempted from tariffs for that remaining 20% that the US still imports to meet it’s domestic needs, the US would then industrial policy to try to encourage companies to take that 80% of production to 140% of internal US usage (i.e. the US is fully self-sufficient for that product and can then export the remaining 40% to the world).
3. create industrial areas – from the 1870s to the 1970s the US had several dedicated industrial regions (i.e. the Steel belt), The US will almost certainly need to either create new industrial regions or reactive those old regions. Currently, the US has avoid creating industrial regions in favor of allocating parts production based on senator interests (i.e. every state gets a little slice of the pie, so everyone has buy-in on big federal programs, like the F-35 which famously has parts made in all 50 states), however, spreading parts production over all 50 states is extremely inefficient and increases costs significantly compared to only having the parts production localized over a small region of 3-4 states. I also suspect the Trump Admin will create special economic zones that are exempt from some state & local laws/regulations (environmental/union/worker safety) in order to encourage investment
4. consolidate control over raw materials – If the US is going to become an industrial producer again, then it will need to establish firm control over the sources of raw materials and energy to supply that productivity. Greenland, Canada and Brazil are all areas that are rich in natural resources and their geographical closeness would make control over these supplies easier compared to Africa or the Middle East. Currently, Trump is publicly pushing the idea of the US annexing Canada & Greenland, but I suspect what he actually wants is for the respective governments is to remove all restrictions on foreign (i.e. the US, non-US companies will still be barred from making offers) ownership of their vital raw resources and industries (minerals, rare earths, forestry, oil/gas). It is extremely likely that Canada and Greenland collapse in the face of this pressure and will agree to i) allow full US ownership of key industries ii) privatize government services/industries (which will be purchased by US owned corporations) iii) allow newly US-owned industries to move production to the US after “X” many years & iv) excluded non-US based corporations from purchasing businesses within these countries.
far to early to tell if this will work for the US, but it will certainly create a lot of resentment towards the US throughout the world and it will destabilize the countries that agree to these terms (during the 1940-60s the US created wealth in the countries it traded with, now it will be blatantly stealing wealth and impoverishing these countries. Eventually, these countries will either collapse or will be forced to either re-negotiate or even break economic relations with the US in order to save themselves. however, this will take a long time, 15-20 years

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 3 2025 5:21 utc | 148

snake @128
This post responding to myself and others is AI Bot-sh*t.
All your doing is cherry picking a search domain from a post, running an AI inquiry and cut and pasting parts you like or understand; then expecting others to see it as original thinking.
Your responses don’t provide a conceptually integrated argument.

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 3 2025 5:23 utc | 149

There is no economic advantage for the US to make cars “in the US” correction should be “in Canada”.
Posted by: Jerr | Feb 2 2025 21:34 utc | 102
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This is incorrect.
Canadians get state-subsidized healthcare, which makes employees in Canada cheaper than in America.
All international trade is premised on arbitrage. One locality offers something that the other does not.
Trump is trying to “presto-change-o” a new American economy on the fly as the world is de-dollarizing.
It’s not impossible, but it will be difficult.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 3 2025 5:40 utc | 150

@Paranaense | Mon, 03 Feb 2025 05:17:00 GMT | 146

Who is left to buy from Canada and Mexico? China doesn’t buy, they sell.

China is much more into buying now, especially for the right products. Canada’s top exports are petroleum and natural gas, commodities China is hungry for. And metal products, which Trump tariffed and China needs. Same with Mexico, which has China as its number two trading partner. Also, there is India…

Posted by: James M. | Feb 3 2025 5:56 utc | 151

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 5:03 utc | 145
1. There normally would have been 2 ATCs on duty at the time of the crash. The supervisor let 1 leave 40 minutes early.
*That left 1 ATC to cover both heli & plane takeoffs & landings while air traffic was still heavy.
2. The pilot has been named. She was highly respected by her male peers & a well qualified white woman.
*The white male co-pilot was supervising the training exercise & had full controls to takeover in an emergency.
Both pilots were had experience with the route.
*There should have been a 4th crew member in the back to protect against blind spots.
There is nothing in the scenario to suggest DEI.
However, per NYT, not only was the BH some 200′ higher than it was supposed to be, *it was 1/2 mile off course.*
Still wondering if tbe BH had drone capabilities. Thinking about giant ship losing bearings/control & hitting bridge last year. And fires at munitions plants here, in UK & Germany.

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 6:10 utc | 152

Ukraine Weekly Update, 31st Jan 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-786

Posted by: The Busker | Feb 3 2025 7:50 utc | 153

Funding will soon dry up for NGOs and other entities that rely on USAID funds—some of which have been linked to furthering left-wing censorship efforts around the world and funding coups. The veil is being torn open.
Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 2:32 utc | 139
The veil hides that some guys were upset all that money was going to the other guys. As long as team Elon-Trump gets that endless money, the agency will be renamed and all will be fine.
You can see the same behavior with the talking heads of youtube. When Biden was blowing up stuff in Russia it was always an American operator of the Himars or Atacms. Now they blow up the same amount or more than before, from refineries, oil depots to the usual petal mines and cluster bombs in villages and towns, but the talking heads no longer call Himars or Atacms as American, they either avoid to speak about any attacks (reported officially, not rumors on twitter accounts) or just it’s Ukr or EU or UK because, of course, US is not involved in any way

Posted by: rk | Feb 3 2025 8:34 utc | 154

USAID is kaput.
That Bristol Hotel hit must be hurting.
2 confirmed bombings of ukrop mobilization centers.
Ouch!

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 3 2025 9:15 utc | 155

Hobo 3 a 104
Thanks, spot on.

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 3 2025 9:24 utc | 156

@114
“In fact, those “Free Traders” need those cheap goods, because the only job they can get is as a greeter at a Walmart selling imported goods.”
The “Free Traders” seem to do quite well in the legal and financial fields. Note that neither of those contributes much positive to the economy.

Posted by: Fred777 | Feb 3 2025 11:02 utc | 157

Sticking with the theme of my comment in the open thread this morning- Narrative management.
The narrative being set to run the campaign to get new recruits for the desperately depleted U.K. military – SAS bulshit make believe ‘hero’s’ on TeeVee and fafo mercenary heartstring tugging bs in Murdockian tub thumping redtop porn and football rag. The Bum.
‘TRAGIC BRIT DEAD Brit, 18, killed by Russian drone minutes into first mission on Ukraine frontline as pal
says he didn’t stand a chance*’
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGi2ZfkuWwAAhPsA.jpg
You know right at the begining of the SMO there was a lot of media promo of Brits going off to fight Poootin happily schooled into the new ‘heil hitler‘ greeting ‘slava’ ukropian bs.
Almost as if the had been training for months!
As soon as the first attack happened on their nato base in western Ukraine – yup a full on nato boots on the ground BASE – which fried a few and sent man scuttling back home to their mummy’s! Suddenly they were supposed ‘awol’
Did everyone forget that teenager who was D noticed from the media and told to remain in his family’s care instead of being dragged back by military police for having ‘run away’?
Maybe the narrative is actually the call to surrender??
You get dead within minutes of arriving … it’s done … as the gung-ho TeeVee fake hard men sas repeated line has on the radio ‘Everyman for himself’!
DerrKyivStarmer Great Knight Dope doesn’t know whether he is supposed to be coming or going.
He certainly ain’t the first foreign ‘leader’ to meet DJT … that’s err… the ziofascist child killer and genocider – NuttyYahoo! The real Special Relationship of the Collective Wasters. .

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 3 2025 11:44 utc | 158

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 2 2025 21:15 utc | 99
And to convince the Japanese to build car factories in the UK, Sir Anthony Blair assured the Japanese car manufacturers the UK would be in the EU. So the Japanese now know what the word of a UK Prime Minister is worth.
Come to think of it, so do the Ukrainians.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 3 2025 11:59 utc | 159

152:
ATC was in communication with the helo twice, to warn it off the jet. Also, the helo acknowledged and asked for permission to visually clear itself from the jet’s path (which it got).
We don’t have the full accident investigation yet, but from what I see so far, the issue is not with ATC (or the jet pilots), but with the helo pilots. The area is very well known to be an airport vicinity, with planes landing, taking off along channels of the Potomac. In addition to that, the helo pilots had been warned.
This doesn’t mean it’s a DEI failure or a female pilot failure (“Call Sign Revlon”, had an F-14 roomie who gave me the inside scoop on that screwup…where there WAS a big push to have a photogenic Tomcat pilot and where Hultgren DID have poor performance in training, but was pushed through rather than “weeded” as is typical for jets, and then for fighter jet selection.) You can mess up as a white male, you can mess up as an experienced pilot. And yes, there were two pilots in the helo and we don’t know who had control. Probably they both screwed up, the one who had control and the one who was the check.
Off topic, but it seems like there is an extreme (has grown) amount of helo traffic throughout DC and the suburbs. Much more than in a few decades ago. It’s a little annoying to see so much flying by the high and mighty (whose numbers have grown) bypassing the traffic that proles have to deal with. Or just overmilitarized police forces or the like. It’s definitely not just the President and a few traffic choppers any more. There’s a big increase in helo density all over the area, all times of day.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 3 2025 12:35 utc | 160

“2. The pilot has been named. She was highly respected by her male peers & a well qualified white woman.”
Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 6:10 utc | 152
The female pilot had only 500 hours of flight time and was over 200 feet over the proscribed altitude of helis in the area (200 feet maximum) and 1 1/2 mile off course.
She might have been a fine woman, yet she was an unexperienced pilot as illustrated by her huge mistakes that caused the tragedy. (1)
“People are starting to fixate on the pilot of the helicopter being a woman but I notice she only had 500 hours of flight time. You need 1500 hours to be an airline pilot. What are the standards for helicopter pilots to be in that kind of super-busy controlled airspace?”

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 12:36 utc | 161

“Look what just happened in AI.. The Chinese, with very little capital, and a very small development team, just quashed the $500 billion four AI giants plan to completely monopolize the AI market. The Chinese, Deep Seek II AI product not only does AI it also does reasoning. so its AIR. . The problem is the situation is much more than a better mouse trap and also a dynamically threatening marketing method (open source). Open source represents a very powerful economic defense against being isolated by monopoly powers.”
Posted by: snake | Feb 3 2025 1:27 utc | 128
Best paragraph I have read this morning; excellent analysis.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 12:38 utc | 162

@161
“The female pilot had only 500 hours of flight time and was over 200 feet over the proscribed altitude of helis in the area (200 feet maximum) and 1 1/2 mile off course.”
Are we still expected to thank her for her service?

Posted by: Fred777 | Feb 3 2025 12:49 utc | 163

It is also sort of interesting, eerie, that the one female pilot was not just some generic shlub. But a bit of a spokesmodel (the Biden administration gig).
She wasn’t in some generic unit overseas or in the cornfields, learning her craft. But in DC, doing these DC area type things. And as a first tour JO, not some rotated shore tour, post JO tour. But kissing Biden admin ass and Pentagon general ass. (Don’t get me started on how much the deployed military despises and dismisses DC area PowerPoint commandos.)

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 3 2025 12:54 utc | 164

163 – 500 hours of flight time would have been considered adequate in WW2, for a single-engine fighter, though the Americans at least aimed to get their pilots 600-700 hours before going operational. Axis fighter pilots were often made operational in 1943-5 with significantly less than 500 hours though they were prone to crashes and often had trouble fighting more experienced enemies in air-to-air clashes.

Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 3 2025 13:05 utc | 165

zelensky is now doing the high frequency keening whine about $200 billion that has gone “missing”. Send him another $200 billion then, problem solved for a few days. Make the fucking goys pay it like always.

Posted by: Jack M | Feb 3 2025 13:06 utc | 166

165:
I know it can be tough to get hours, sometimes, but as a JO, she should have been off in a more operational unit for her first stint. There it is easier to get hours…and also even when you’re not getting them, you’re still doing sims and are at least working in a more operational unit.
She was in the DC area instead. (Which should be more for post JO tour people, since it’s not exactly a major warfighting area, more of a political dynamic, very REMF-y.) She also spent a fair amount of time on a high profile, spokesmodel gig (the aide gig for the Biden administration) rather than just being 100% in her unit, learning her craft.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 3 2025 13:10 utc | 167

Most governments don’t want USAID funds flowing into their countries because they understand where much of that money actually ends up.
While marketed as support for development, democracy, and human rights, the majority of these funds are funneled into opposition groups, NGOs with political agendas, and destabilizing movements.
At best, maybe 10% of the money reaches real projects that help people in need (there are such cases), but the rest is used to fuel dissent, finance protests, and undermine administrations that refuse to align with the globalist agenda.
Cutting this so-called aid isn’t just beneficial for the United States; it’s also a big win for the rest of the world.

Isn’t security architecture the RF been emphasizing intended to protect against this very activity, which was the centerpiece for Maidan? I don’t think describing Bukele as a darling of conservatives alone will work to hold back a tide.

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 13:29 utc | 168

The aircraft crash which has caused so much discussion in the Ukraine Open Thread was deliberate. There is no way for any of us to know if the TWO pilots at the controls of the helicopter worked together in some bizarre suicide pact (unlikely); or if one pilot killed the other pilot then flew the helicopter into the aircraft to commit suicide (again, unlikely – pilot murder/suicides have happened, but the aircraft has always been flown into the ground not into another aircraft); or the helicopter was remote controlled into the aircraft (most likely). The fact the media in the U.S., which is controlled by the U.S. government, is throwing up a massive smokescreen of “DEI!,” “TRANS!,” “WOMAN!,” tells me something else, something much more significant happened – that this was a deliberate act by someone who remote controlled that ultra modern computer networked helicopter equipped with the most capable collision avoidance systems available.
The only thing that puzzles me is whom and why? Could it be payback by the Russians for U.S. terrorist attacks against civilians in Russia? Could it be a message from China, elements of the U.S. intelligence community, or even ultra wealthy families to Trump to “back off?” There is no way for any of us to know.
About ultra-wealthy families, and I am talking about those families such as control private investment companies in Austin, Texas which would have profited about a trillion dollars from shorting Trump’s holdings the day before his new assassination. When you have people making trillion dollar bets in the stock market, you have people who can buy anything. As someone said recently – I think it might have been a Russian – above a certain level of wealth there are people who can kill anyone, anywhere, at anytime.
So, who controlled that helicopter? Foreign governments? Elements in the U.S. government? Non government actors with access to advanced technology that can hack into helicopter controll systems? I don’t know. I do know it wasn’t either of the pilots for the simple fact that the U.S. media is trying to point me that way.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 3 2025 13:30 utc | 169

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 3 2025 4:31 utc | 144

I’ve heard that they’ve managed to extend the range by linking the fibre optic drones to a more traditional radio-controlled drone that acts as a mothership/signal relay.

That’s pretty interesting. It certainly could help explain how Russia got so deep into Ukrainian territory without any formal changing of the polygons/maps, but I checked on Google and the distance from Sumy to Glushkovo (due north of Sumy, near the Russian border) is 100 km. That’s a long way.
I suspect Russia has infiltrated the area north of Sumy more than the mappers are showing.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2025 13:40 utc | 170

nobody @ 169
The Black Hawk is a nice stable platform. There have been press releases over past few years about Black Hawks being operated with no pilots at all.
The crash is so fishy you are right to guess we are being lied to. Most of these operations are designed with no one at all getting killed. Even news reports of bodies being fished out of Potomac cannot be trusted. We will never know what happened. We are not supposed to know what happened.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 3 2025 14:02 utc | 171

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 3 2025 14:02 utc | 171
Below is a X post-seems wild but who knows:
“👺SPOILERS: The tragic helicopter/plane collision was a deliberate crash, likely remotely executed via avionics hackers (IBM/Northrop/Vercel/IDF Unit 8200) and was designed to serve as a “warning message” to deter certain potential COVID whistleblowers from Duke University, Hollywood, China and Israel from ever coming forward in the future.
(Because Israel is FUCKED if they ever do.)
But NOW, since they’ll likely bow out (understandably so) in order to protect their loved ones and mourn their tragic losses, I thought it might be a good idea if I went ahead, took the yoke for them and did the whistleblowing myself.
This way, they don’t have to worry about it anymore and can freely grieve with their families in peace. They’ve suffered enough. You fucking Israeli Jew terrorists can come after me and our whole crew instead if you’re REALLY feeling froggy. Say when, cunts. We fucking DARE you.✌️
💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Now that THAT’S outta the way, and without further adieu, here’s what’s up, folks:
💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
💔REBECCA LOBACH: She was the DAUGHTER of DAVID LOBACH (Duke University Medicine; Elimu Informatics; HHS) and ELIZABETH LOBACH (New Regency).
✅DAVID FRANKLIN LOBACH
*DUKE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, Chief of Division Clinical
💥NOTE 1: Duke University is run by Trustees Chairman and Mossad asset, Laurene Sperling, who is also the Chairman of Combined Jewish Philanthropies (CJP) and is married to Thermo Fisher (PCR TESTS) Lead Director, Scott Sperling. Thermo Fisher = Temasek (Singapore).
*CJP = BOSTON UJA/JFNA/MOSSAD*
💥NOTE 2: Duke University School of Medicine is led by Dean, Nancy Andrews, who is the Chairman of Wellcome Burroughs (Wellcome/Farrar), who sits on the Board of Directors at Novartis and is a Senior Advisor to NIH Executive Leadership (Anthony Fauci).
💥NOTE 3: Duke Kunshan is a PARTNERSHIP between Duke University and Wuhan University and it officially opened its doors in 2013, which is the SAME YEAR that DAVID RUBENSTEIN (Duke Capital Partners, Carlyle Group, Booz Allen Hamilton, CFR, Brookings, etc.) became the CHAIRMAN of the DUKE UNIVERSITY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
*Both David Rubenstein and Laurene Sperling are CURRENTLY on the ADVISORY BOARD of DUKE KUNSHAN UNIVERSITY in WUHAN, CHINA.
CLIFFS: Duke University is arguably the MOST IMPLICATED SCHOOL IN AMERICA with regard to the COVID PANDEMIC CONSPIRACY and the CREATION & RELEASE of COVID… and COVERUP of COVID’S ORIGINS.
This is especially horrifying the moment you realize COVID was 100% an INTENTIONALLY-CALIBRATED BIOLOGICAL WEAPON that was INTENTIONALLY RELEASED as an ATTACK on the (my) WHITE EUROPEAN RACE WORLDWIDE by an untold number of MOSSAD JEWS and their GLOBAL JEW SUPREMACY COUNTERPARTS.
And they carried out this attack because THEY STILL BLAME US FOR SOME HOLOCAUST they’d been tricked into believing actually happened by their parents, who’d also been tricked themselves by theirs.
(Alvin Krongard and Scott Gottlieb, both known Mossad assets, were directly involved here. Michael Bloomberg too.)
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Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 14:16 utc | 172

May I politely remind everyone that this is a, sigh, “Ukraine thread” and scrolling through mountainous paragraphs of a completely unrelated topic got very annoying.

Posted by: boneless | Feb 3 2025 14:27 utc | 173

This is a aummary of U.S. related news items for today. That’s not my site. I just read it. Near the top of the page is information about USAID funding the Maidan coup with $5 billion US dollars. Near the bottom are links to four stories about Russia / Ukraine. The rest of the page will give most people a good idea of how the United States actually runs.
For those of you unfamiliar with the lingo:
Cabal / Clown World: The interconnected web of ultra-wealthy international families whose wealth allows them to manipulate governments for their benefit.
Gangstalking: Reference to the ground surveillance teams in the United States. Also known as the American Stasi.
The Beam: This refers to the entire class of directed energy devices used against humans. This includes devices which produce what is called the Havana Syndrome. It also includes the use of microwaves to affect people’s moods, a practice the UK government has admitted doing to anti-nuclear protesters in the 1970s.
Enjoy.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 3 2025 14:32 utc | 174

Another red line crossed?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rqj171zzvo

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Feb 3 2025 14:45 utc | 175

Watcher@119….in Canada’s new trade agreement with the US, just like the old agreement, there is a clause stating Canada must get the US’s permission to sell Canadian energy to any other country, so I will repeat, Canada is not Sovereign, it is a sole subsidiary of the House of Windsor…..do read some constitutional law. Please. And the Canadian Oath of Allegiance read it too, Canadians are the Crown of England’s subjects. Including the newly amended Canadian Oath of Allegiance which makes all First Nations and Inuit peoples……subjects of the Crown.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 3 2025 14:50 utc | 176

Posted by: James M. | Feb 3 2025 5:56 utc | 151
“China is much more into buying now, especially for the right products. Canada’s top exports are petroleum and natural gas, commodities China is hungry for. And metal products, which Trump tariffed and China needs. Same with Mexico, which has China as its number two trading partner. Also, there is India…”
Once the pipeline from Russia to China is complete I would imagine it would be hard for Canada or Mexico to undercut the price of Russian oil. Also you need to consider the size of the market. Is India going to buy enough to make up for the loss of the American market, assuming they can undercut India’s current suppliers? I don’t see any way Canada or Mexico can turn this into a win; the only question is how big of a loss will it be?

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 14:52 utc | 177

“But Trump has better ideas about what is good, what is bad, including in gender policy, in some other issues, they kind of don’t like it,” the Russian president asserted.
So Biden Bud Lighted the brand …
Also, hat tip to Nobody Special:
*** Near the top of the page is information about USAID funding the Maidan coup with $5 billion US dollars. Near the bottom are links to four stories about Russia / Ukraine. ***
Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 3 2025 14:32 utc | 174
The veil in western media is being pulled back. Certainly there has been an unvirtuous loop of NGOs funding Democrat party activity. Now, how will MAGA cap the laundering of funds from programs like USAID from springing up again? After all, they will only serve to oppose MAGA priorities – it is post modernist doctrine that they will do just that. Maybe an end to the Ukraine conflict with security features that RF has been seeking that circumscribes the use of NGO’s or other means to destabilize (election meddling dare I say) other legitimate governments. My SWAG

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 14:56 utc | 178

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 6:10 utc | 152
“There is nothing in the scenario to suggest DEI.”
You haven’t given any evidence to back up this claim. I would suggest that the control tower being a 60 percent of it’s prescribed staff would be strong evidence that DEI has degraded the Air Traffic Control capabilities. If you disagree, please back it up with evidence.

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 14:59 utc | 179

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 6:10 utc | 152
“There is nothing in the scenario to suggest DEI.”
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“You haven’t given any evidence to back up this claim. I would suggest that the control tower being a 60 percent of it’s prescribed staff would be strong evidence that DEI has degraded the Air Traffic Control capabilities. If you disagree, please back it up with evidence.”
Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 14:59 utc | 179
Paraneanse you are 100% right on!

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 15:14 utc | 180

Red line #99
Russian Oil Refinery In Flames After Ukrainian Drone Attack
https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping-news/video-russian-oil-refinery-in-flames-after-ukrainian-drone-attack/

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Feb 3 2025 15:30 utc | 181

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 14:59 utc | 179
Huh? Please explain how allowing an employee to leave work 40 minutes early from a normal shift is due to DEI?
ATC has been short-staffed ever since Reagan wrecked it.
You’d think lowering standards via DEI would enable increased staffing.
I stead, they have a hard time filling positions, operate at leas staff than required.
That’s mot due to DEI. It’s due to high stress + inadequate compensation.

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 15:32 utc | 182

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 15:14 utc | 180
Cheerleading a speculative comment made with absolutely zero backing evidence whatsoever is pretty silly, canuck. The ATC program – as Mary stated – has been understaffed and in varying states of disarray since Ronny Raygun busted the would-be strike in the 1980s. There is zero proof that the ATC people were to blame for this incident as well – the Blackhawk and its pilot were clearly in the wrong place and there has been criticism of the way that particular slice of airspace has been used for years now – if you look at a map, there are multiple military bases flanking the Potomac and it’s also a major civilian/government destination for air traffic – hub, even. All this DEI crap presented with no evidence is just ridiculous.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2025 15:39 utc | 183

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2025 12:36 utc | 161
A) The female was the co-pilot. There is a LONG history going back to Gulf War I of female Blackhawk pilots as well. I know one, as a matter of fact and she’s a MAJOR Trump fangirl. She places her coffee mug with Trump’s pic after he got bailed out of jail on it front and center on video conference calls. She’s also a very competent person.
B) The pilot was a white male officer with several years and many commendations. But let me guess – we’re supposed to assume that the woman had the controls at this very moment because she wrested them from him with a boxcutter.
You guys need to make up your mind. Or get some treatment for this mindvirus you have where literally any fuckup can conveniently be blamed on “DEI” when there are an order of magnitude more likely and, in this case, clearly already proven reasons.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2025 15:43 utc | 184

Ukraine has run out of last year’s gas reserves: Europe has a new problem
Two months before the end of the heating season, all volumes of gas pumped last year were taken from Ukraine’s storage facilities. By mid-February, the UGS occupancy rate may drop to 10%, when only limited volumes can be taken from storage facilities. Shortage of stocks on Ukraine will become another problem for Europe, which will already have to buy tens of billions of cubic meters this year due to the suspension of Ukrainian transit of Russian gas and low reserves in its own storage facilities.
By February 3, all volumes of gas that were pumped last year were taken from Ukraine’s storage facilities. Active fuel reserves in the country’s UGS decreased below 3.38 billion cubic meters (8 billion cubic meters with buffer gas), according to GIE. So much was in Ukrainian storage facilities last year on March 30, when the heating season was completed in the country.
At the same time, this colder winter Ukraine does not take more gas than a year earlier. During the three months of the 23/24 heating season, 6.2 billion cubic meters were taken away, while this year it was 5 billion cubic meters. The current situation is explained by the fact that last year Ukraine pumped 2.7 billion cubic meters less into storage.
The current volume is record low and threatens the country, which has two more months of the season ahead, with a gas shortage. The former head of the GTS Operator of Ukraine, Serhiy Makogon, cited data on Facebook* that when storage facilities are 10% full, the maximum selection level will decrease to 60 million cubic meters per day. Up to this level, with the current selection, Ukraine has no more than 10 days left.
In this case, Ukraine will become extremely vulnerable in the event of a cold snap, when consumption may grow to 140-150 million cubic meters per day, and domestic production and removal from storage facilities will not be able to provide more than 110 million cubic meters.
In addition, gas costs for maintaining pressure in the gas transportation system have increased, as the transit of Russian gas has stopped. And part of the reserves in Ukrainian storages belongs to European traders — up to 1 billion cubic meters in the “customs warehouse” mode. While the price of gas in Europe remains above $ 570 per thousand cubic meters.
Naftogaz responded to Sergey Makogon’s statements with assurances that there would be enough fuel. Including through import. However, according to the “Ukrainian GTS Operator”, daily deliveries to the country amount to 4 million cubic meters per day, 2 million of which, obviously, go to Moldova for Transnistria. Thus, gas purchases in Europe for Ukraine are 20 times lower than the current selection from storage facilities.
The former head of Naftogaz, Alexei Chernyshev, said that the country would pass the season on its own gas reserves. This approach, even with the current reduced selection regime, already leads to the fact that active reserves will fall to a little over 1 billion cubic meters by April 1 and will become a headache, including for Europe.
Without the Ukrainian transit of Russian gas, Europe will lose more than 15 billion cubic meters in a year, which will have to be additionally purchased in the form of LNG. Also in countries EU gas reserves will be significantly lower by the end of the season than the previous few years, and more than 30 billion cubic meters will be needed. Ukraine’s needs will add more than 3 billion cubic meters, which must be purchased abroad.
Such volumes will not be able to cover new projects in the USA. The launch of two new two stages of Plaquemines and the third stage of Corpus Cristi on the Gulf coast will additionally yield a little more than 20 million tons (more than 27 million cubic meters) in 2025. This is significantly less than the projected additional needs of Europe, taking into account Ukraine, which, according to experts, will keep gas prices high in Europe. 3 billion cubic meters will cost Naftogaz $1.7 billion already. Now Kiev is directly dependent on financial assistance from the European Union and Ukrainian volumes will obviously become an additional headache for European officials and politicians.
Who has the necessary volumes is Gazprom. And the most affordable option for lowering prices remains the resumption of Ukrainian transit, through which Hungary and Slovakia continues to put pressure on the European Commission. But, obviously, this is no longer an economic issue.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/02/03/ukraine-has-run-out-of-last-years-gas-reserves-europe-has-a-new-problem

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 3 2025 15:57 utc | 185

Plane crashes due to DEI is all people are taking about. Even Putin throws in some comments about “gender policy”. This is all off topic on a Ukraine discussion, but kind of not. I have been commenting here about how a shift in narrative can change the perception of reality. The shift over the past week has been astounding at least to me. Big risks are being taken to make this happen.

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 3 2025 15:57 utc | 186

Resulting in:

Naftogaz of Ukraine is forced to urgently purchase gas under corruption schemes — insider
The largest national oil and gas company of Ukraine, Naftogaz, is forced to urgently purchase gas due to Russian missile strikes that destroyed the stored volumes of gas in the PGH.
This is reported by the Ukrainian Telegram channel “Resident”, referring to an informed source in Office of the President of Ukraine (OPU).
He explained that at Bankova such a turn of events did not cause despondency at all. On the contrary, the functionaries of the Kiev regime saw this as an opportunity for personal corruption gain.
Taking advantage of the situation, officials intend to buy gas at inflated prices, which suggest their personal “kickbacks”.
The interlocutor of the channel explained that on Ukraine’s corrupt interests are now decisive in the work of all structures, and functionaries at the Bank cover up such transactions for personal gain.
At the same time, it is noted that stocks in Ukrainian storage facilities are at a record low. By the end of January, about 8 billion cubic meters remained there, which is about 10% of the total volume. And not all of this gas can be used.
It is expected that Ukraine will come out of the current heating season with almost empty storage facilities, which “never happened” before.
This means that Kiev will need to create a completely new gas reserve for the heating season next year. At a minimum, this will amount to about 14-15 billion cubic meters, of which a significant part will have to be imported.
Earlier, EADaily reported that two months before the end of the heating season, all volumes of gas pumped last year were taken from Ukraine’s storage facilities.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/02/03/naftogaz-of-ukraine-is-forced-to-urgently-purchase-gas-under-corruption-schemes-insider

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 3 2025 16:01 utc | 187

There is no possibility of a conscious helicopter crew being unaware of an approaching aircraft, landing lights blazing, as is required below 10,000 feet, above ground level, on a clear night.
This helicopter would appear to have been pre-positioned on the instrument landing system at the appropriate place and altitude to accomplish the subsequent event.

Posted by: necromancer | Feb 3 2025 16:03 utc | 188

Having said that, I have not, as yet, seen many informed sources.
I would expect that the professional pilots rumor network, wwwDOTppruneDOTorg, be alive with all the theories.
apologies for OT

Posted by: necromancer | Feb 3 2025 16:06 utc | 189

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2025 15:39 utc
As you say, the fault of this tragic accident clearly lies with the pilot of the military helicopter (who wandered into what had to have been known as the standard flight path of descending commercial passenger planes), as well as under-staffing at the air traffic control centre.
Any hysterical speculation as to this being a deliberate targeted accident fails if there is no sensible target onboard the passenger place. Seth Rich is already dead.
DEI may well have something to with it. Stories about this, as is often with the case, seem to vary.
The pilot of the helicopter seem to have been an ambitious woman (and photogenic?) with a flight time of anywhere between 500 to 1000 hours. Don’t know if this was combined air time on all platforms or only Blackhawk hours:
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/g-s1-46002/washington-dc-airport-potomac-crash-black-hawk-military-crew
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2525687/pilot-of-army-black-hawk-helicopter-in-potomac-river-plane-crash-identified
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/army-black-hawk-crew-involved-dc-crash-made/story?id=118276697
https://sonar21.com/incompetence-led-to-the-deaths-of-67-people-in-a-fatal-collision/
According to Larry, the copter pilot was twice above the height that she should have been (200 feet?). That seem amazingly low to me. There are no buildings taller tha 60 metres in Washington DC?. Or only over the Potomac?

Posted by: Ant. | Feb 3 2025 16:10 utc | 190

“no sensible target onboard the passenger place”
is not required.
The object of terrorism is to terrorize.

Posted by: necromancer | Feb 3 2025 16:19 utc | 191

https://www.rt.com/news/612102-british-teen-mercenary-killed-ukraine/
This boy needs a special award for being the stupidest person of 2024, a true sucker if there was ever was one. He wasted his life falling for Western propaganda, setting off with starry eyes to fight for Western values under the leadershipf of the Jewish comedian of the Ukraines. Then in minutes of first mission he was killed by a drone. How about the Dunce Cap Trophy?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 3 2025 16:19 utc | 192

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 3 2025 15:57 utc | 185 // 187
thanks jeremy.. that might explain the thought of europe having to get gas from russia again..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2025 16:21 utc | 193

@ Posted by: Johan Kaspar Feb 3 2025 16:19 utc 193
James Wilton. Poor boy, victim of programmed Russophobia. Special award for the Darwin Theory of Evolution.
Ant.

Posted by: Ant. | Feb 3 2025 16:27 utc | 194

Posted by: Ant. | Feb 3 2025 16:10 utc | 191
200 ft is the max height copters are supposed to fly at in the area.
The female pilot was in the top 25% & being evaluated. The male pilot — also photogenic– was the evaluator with 1,000 miles time & a 2nd full set of controls.
The plane’s black box shows prelim alt data of 325′ +/- 25′. It also shows the plane tilt upward at the last second, so the pilot saw & tried at the last second to evade.
The ATC data showed the copter at 200′, so either incorrect data was being transmitted from the copter or there was a data time lag long enough for the copter to elevate 100+ feet.
In additional ATC recording, the controller ordered the copter to nix fly under & “turn left, turn left”
Finally, in a bit of black humor & shock, some phenomenally stupid reporter actually asked how they knew the plane & copter were at the same altitude…🤦

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 16:46 utc | 195

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 15:32 utc | 182
“Huh? Please explain how allowing an employee to leave work 40 minutes early from a normal shift is due to DEI?
ATC has been short-staffed ever since Reagan wrecked it.
You’d think lowering standards via DEI would enable increased staffing.
I stead, they have a hard time filling positions, operate at leas staff than required.
That’s mot due to DEI. It’s due to high stress + inadequate compensation.”
Actually, they recovered after Reagan decertified PATCO. The current shortage of air traffic controllers started when Obama disqualified a graduating class of 3,000 controllers because they were too white. There’s currently a lawsuit pending where those 3,000 qualified candidates are seeking damages.
“You’d think lowering standards via DEI would enable increased staffing.”
Actually, they didn’t lower standards, they changed them. Competency is no longer the primary requirement. Being an underrepresented minority is the first requirement, and competency is a secondary consideration. By reducing the candidate pool to only those skilled applicants who also happen to be African American, LGBT, or physically or emotionally disabled, you’ve actually reduced the size of your applicant pool. Employees at this particular control tower have been complaining for years about being understaffed, and there are qualified white candidates who still can’t get hired. If that’s not failure due to DEI restrictions then I don’t know what is.

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 16:51 utc | 197

Posted by: Mary | Feb 3 2025 6:10 utc | 152
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2025 15:39 utc | 183
My mistake, it wasn’t 3000 graduates suing, it was 1,000.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/faa-lawsuit-claims-agency-discriminated-against-air-traffic-controller-applicants-basis-race

Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 3 2025 17:05 utc | 198

Posted by: Ant. | Feb 3 2025 16:27 utc | 194
James Wilton. Poor boy, victim of programmed Russophobia. Special award for the Darwin Theory of Evolution.

I thought of another name for the award while running home: The Low-Hanging Fruit Award.
The Special Darwin Award could go to his parents or closest relatives.
Just trying to turn to humor contemplating such waste of a life for such un-deserving cause.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 3 2025 18:14 utc | 199

Good news on this side of the frozen hemisphere, Manitoba Merv is predicting just two more weeks of winter, that should help on the other side of the frozen hemisphere as the EU is low on fuel and their winters are not quite as cold as ours according to the young lady that served me the other day, it was -25c here, she assured me where she was from, northern Ukraine, she said it only goes to around -10…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 3 2025 18:17 utc | 200