Trump Wants To Take Over Gaza, Announces 500,000 Dead
The king of Israel (with a red alpha tie) visited his vassal state in America where real-estate developer Donald Trump (blue beta tie) pushed the chair for his leader and offered him to cleanse the Palestinian population from all land the Zionists desire to take.
Via AP:
President Donald Trump on Tuesday suggested that displaced Palestinians in Gaza be permanently resettled outside the war-torn territory and proposed the U.S. take “ownership” in redeveloping the area into “the Riviera of the Middle East.”
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The provocative comments came as talks are ramping up this week with the promise of surging humanitarian aid and reconstruction supplies to help the people of Gaza recover after more than 15 months of devastating conflict. Now Trump wants to push roughly 1.8 million people to leave the land they have called home and claim it for the U.S., perhaps with American troops.“The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it too,” Trump said at an evening news conference with Netanyahu by his side.
The internationally acknowledged Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics' count of the population of Gaza in 2023 was 2,226,544. Trump wants to remove all Palestinians from Gaza and gives their number as 1.7 or 1.8 million:
Reporter: How many people are you thinking need to leave Gaza?
Trump: “All of them. Probably a million seven, maybe a million eight. They’ll be settled in areas where they can live a beautiful life.” (video)
This is an acknowledgement, by the president of the United States, that the genocidal Zionists have murdered up to 500,000 people in Gaza.
Despite that toll few in Gaza would move voluntarily:
Gazan residents generally want to stay on their land.Trump did not specify where the new land for Gazans might be found, although he made his comments after repeating his desire for Egypt and Jordan to take in Gaza’s residents. Nor did he appear to grapple with the many Gazan residents who would not want to depart their home territory, nor with the practicalities of potentially forcing them to leave it.
“I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East, and maybe the entire Middle East,” Trump said.
Asked if U.S. troops would be deployed to take over Gaza, Trump said that “we’ll do what’s necessary. … We’ll take it over and develop it.”
Netanyahu said that he was open to the idea.
The plan for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza is not new at all:
Afshin Rattansi @afshinrattansi - 23:37 UTC · Feb 4, 2025This has been Israel’s dream for decades
Israel’s NSC Director Eiland in a cable from 2004 leaked by Wikileaks said Gaza ‘is a huge concentration camp’ and that Israel’s solution would be to expel the Palestinians of Gaza to Egypt’s Sinai Desert
The plan has bi-partisan U.S. support:
Harry Sisson @harryjsisson - 1:44 UTC · Oct 11, 2023Amazing: President Biden is working on a plan with other countries that would allow civilians to safely leave Gaza and cross the border into Egypt. This is great news. President Biden is making sure that innocent people don’t die due to the actions of Hamas. That’s leadership.
It is a real estate developer's dream:
Robin Monotti @robinmonotti - 23:47 UTC · May 8, 2024GAZA 2035: A NEW SMART 15 MINUTE CITY BUILT ON THE MASS GRAVES OF PALESTINIAN CHILDREN: New plans in Israeli media reveal what Israel want to do with Gaza post genocide and land theft. The dystopian vision for the Gaza Strip is being currently approved by the Netanyahu government. Link below.
The long planned for and now announced final ethnic cleansing of Gaza would be in breach of a long list of international laws and conventions.
There is no agreement on where the Palestinian people would move to. Egypt, Jordan, Turkey and other countries in the region have rejected the resettlement of any Palestinians to their land. The Foreign Ministry of Saudi Arabia issued a length statement against it at 4:00 am local time(!):
The Foreign Ministry affirms that Saudi Arabia’s position on the establishment of a Palestinian state is firm and unwavering. HRH Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Crown Prince and Prime Minister clearly and unequivocally reaffirmed this stance.
The leaders of those countries know that this would not be the end of the story:
These displacement plans do not end with Gaza. The West Bank, where Israel is escalating military operations, is considered by many right-wing extremists in Israel to be the real prize, and Jordan the preferred destination for Palestinians living there.
Still Trump may think he can win from this. As M.K. Bhadrakumar analyses:
Trump used the expression “take over” of Gaza Strip. He didn’t elaborate. Trump and Witkoff are two master-builders and they visualise the seamless potential of killing many birds with a single shot —...
- first and foremost, strengthening Israel’s security through the ethnic cleansing and resettlement in Gaza;
- two, restoration of Israel’s regional dominance in the region in a medium and long term perspective;
- three, a solution to the intractable Palestinian problem;
- four, rendering obsolete the various outlandish ideas like “two-state solution”;
- five, burial of the very notion of a Palestinian state;
- six, Israel’s regional integration through Abraham Accords;
- and, above all, massive business spin-off for American companies for decades to come out of the development of the “Riviera of the Middle East”.
Prima facie, Netanyahu lured Trump into a trap by enticing him with a seductive scenario of massive lucrative business in Gaza’s reconstruction. Trump’s imagination is running riot, completely disconnected from ground realities. Such naïveté is fraught with real danger of blowing up on his face sooner rather than later and turn into an albatross for his presidency. This has all the making of a quagmire for the Trump administration.
Should Trump pursue this policy it will come to define his presidency. It may well become his Vietnam.
Posted by b on February 5, 2025 at 14:50 UTC | Permalink
next page »The path to American "greatness" was always going to be through more colonialism. As the Empire declines, we can see a radical acceleration of what little America has been successful at.
America doesn't make real stuff. America doesn't have a monopoly on creativity. America cannot successfully wage war, the society has drug addictions legal and illegal.
The most medicated people on the planet.
Except for being able to "brain drain" the 3rd world, which largely relies on a reputation for material gain (a similar driver for illegal immigration), and the quality of foreign educational systems, America would already be dead.
Many cheer the supposed reining in of the Deep State (actually the shallow state, if we're being honest) but the issues with America are systemic and cultural, they need decades of sustained effort to correct, impossible to achieve under the American political system.
One cannot tariff their way out of these issues.
The future belongs to China and Russia. Two states with social cohesion and governments dedicated to social well-being.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:05 utc | 2
"This is an acknowledgement, by the president of the United States, that the genocidal Zionists have murdered up to 500,000 people in Gaza"
The Zionists need some slave workers, so they won't deport all of them.
Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 5 2025 15:10 utc | 3
No surprise.
For all my life I have known Jews personally as cheap, nasty landlords seeking rent and deposits.
Call me anti-semantic.
I speak only of my direct, lived experience.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 5 2025 15:13 utc | 4
Palestine will reform the world.
America's addiction to Zionism, and its own sense of supremacy are fatal flaws. No President can gain power without pledging fealty to Zionism over Americanism, though the line between them is increasingly blurred.
I don't want to beat up on the Trump supporters. Nothing positive will come from that. Biden was bad, Trump will be just as bad in different ways.
Sure Trump will fire people and rearrange the money flows.
The debt spending and money printing, the looting, and murdering will continue. That stuff matters to the ROW more than who the FBI director is. At this point, the future is being made outside of the West.
Socially, technological, and scientifically.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:16 utc | 5
It is an awful thing when the choice is genocide or ethnic cleansing (genocide lite). Move them to where they are a short drive to Gaza. Call the new space a reservation and allow the Palestinians to build casinos. It is a tested method to get some of your oppressors' money.
Posted by: Matt | Feb 5 2025 15:18 utc | 7
This is the iron fist coming out of the velvet glove moment for empire.
Can it maintain hegemony directly from the core face instead of through proxies?
Will the RoW continue to allow colonialism to dominate our world forms of social organization?
Just what are the moral boundaries of our species? Do we have any?
The shit show continues until it doesn't
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 5 2025 15:23 utc | 8
? who's your daddy ...
? who next : West-Bank , Canada (again) , Greenland , Granada (again) or other Caribbean entities or Fiji or Pitcairn
( akin to Hawaii coup d'état : been there , done that ; "the marines" 1893.01.17++ )
Posted by: Mµ | Feb 5 2025 15:24 utc | 9
[email protected] surprise, the brave knights of the resistance followed the chosen path.....like lambs to the slaughter. And many many here thought it a great idea to hold off, hold back, show restraint, like that fucking helped!
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 5 2025 15:26 utc | 10
b,
Great catch on the ties. Trump loves to wear a red power tie. I haven't worn a tie in decades (its a symbol of slavery, and uncomfortable AF), Trump pays a ton of attention to stuff like that.
The resistance will never relent. The Zionists will have to exterminate to achieve Greater Israel.
There will be no "real estate" deals.
KSA is taking a hard line. Is it a negotiation for better terms? And will Erdogan allow Jerusalem to become a theme park?
How far will the Ayatollah allow this liberal "moment" in Iran to betray the ideals of the revolution?
We (the royal we) get caught up in hanging on what America will do when increasingly outside of America they wield decreasing power. The ROW and Global South will have its say.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:26 utc | 11
I don't think it's going to work. The condemnation this morning, at least in Europe, has been universal, and in quite strong language, even from Israel vassals like Britain and France. This is just negotiating by means of extreme announcement which force the other side to give some concessions, but by no means as much. Like in the case of Canada, to bring up a case dear to the hearts of many participants here. But I don't see how Trump is going to get much at all. He will not be the beneficiary anyways, apart from a few contracts.
Posted by: laguerre | Feb 5 2025 15:29 utc | 12
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Matt can I post this somewhere else it is the perfect summation of the USA
Posted by: susan | Feb 5 2025 15:29 utc | 13
Trump has declared publicly that the US will engage in the systematic ethnic cleansing of Gaza. It was the same policy that Biden was pursuing. The only difference is that Trump has removed the mask. This will unleash a world wide backlash. This is a positive development.
Posted by: David | Feb 5 2025 15:31 utc | 14
Pathetic. The Devil meets Trump to collect his soul.
The good news is that if Trump has to pull Netanyahu’s chair, that means Bibi is having difficulty moving which is typical of Stage 4 prostate cancer.
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 5 2025 15:32 utc | 15
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 5 2025 15:26 utc | 10
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Given your penchant for degeneracy, spiritual commitment may be too far outside of your ken.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:34 utc | 16
When do the men in dark suits arrive to tell Trump it can't be done?
Amd I'll tell you ,old man, with so many reasons why, there but for fortune go you , and I. When you have crawled up , Satan's rectum and got your second term, Satan returns to collect his side of the bargain.
Has he already forgotten the 5 centimetres by which he survived assassination? He could die now and hope for some kind of plea bargaining with God for his OTT rhetoric.
Or he could sign away Palestine, and suffer eternity in Hell/Jahannam.
Deal , or no Deal?
Heaven in eternity might be nicer than a flat overlooking the Mediterranean.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 5 2025 15:35 utc | 17
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 5 2025 15:32 utc | 15
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When Bibi is gone Smotrich or some other Zionist will carry on.
This is not about a man, it's an ideology.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:36 utc | 18
This is imbecilic policy from a vassal administration. Make Israel Great Again, I guess? Maerica was always going to be an afterthought.
Like the south park episode, Maericans got to choose between Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich. Either way the Palestinians were fucked, because Zionism has captured Maerican politics. FUBAR.
I think he's shitting on his base but why should he care. He knows which side his bread is buttered in, the side that mass murders kids and then smirks and lies.
History ain't gonna be kind.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 5 2025 15:37 utc | 19
Posted by: David | Feb 5 2025 15:31 utc | 14
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I could not agree more.
This is a stage of the American collapse.
Healthy countries don't behave as America has since 2008.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:38 utc | 20
Trump has declared publicly that the US will engage in the systematic ethnic cleansing of Gaza. It was the same policy that Biden was pursuing. The only difference is that Trump has removed the mask. This will unleash a world wide backlash. This is a positive development.
Posted by: David | Feb 5 2025 15:31 utc | 14
Agreed
Posted by: Chris N | Feb 5 2025 15:42 utc | 21
Thanks for this one, B. The number of women and children killed by Israel's genocide is for once clear for the world to see. Half a million so far!
Trump is just a Zionist tool. They just love big dumb goys like Trump. He reminds me of Walter from the big Lebowski. Just another fucking useful got idiot who thinks he's part of the gang.
This is why I never have and never will endorse, vote for or apologize for anything this wannabe Israeli does. His only merit is that he looks better than the Biden administration, which isn't saying much. Oh, and his arrogant stupidity is nice in that it often knocks that mask off of US Imperialism to reveal its hideous face.
On a personal level, I can say I've had more than a few interactions with Zionists that were very similar to the ones AB describes. Racial supremacism and capitalist money worship has that effect on a people.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 15:43 utc | 22
It is going to get a hell of a lot crazier you should see what is coming down the pipe.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 5 2025 15:45 utc | 23
You don't understand, Trump is our hero. What he says is all a rise to allow him to give us the world of our dreams. His plan is hidden. He knows better than you. Like God, say thank you when your children die, "it's all for he best". Say thank you when the bank forecloses, this is really an opportunity. Bless your oppressors, they know what's best for you.
They're better than crossdressers and people with low morals, the thieves and murderers are committing old schools, more palatable crimes. Did you die,? (Those that did died so we could endure more suffering, I mean blessings). C'mon Canuck, spin up your delusional ideology
Posted by: Scottindallas | Feb 5 2025 15:45 utc | 24
Thanks for the post b. Your little 'on the napkin' calculation made me drop my phone, sending a shiver down my spine.
We truly live in the era of blackest reaction and looking at the state of the world is, to put it simple, sickening.
I don't know what to say.
Posted by: kspr | Feb 5 2025 15:48 utc | 25
Good thing about Trump's presidency is that we can see the plain naked truth.
Posted by: Grey Cloud | Feb 5 2025 15:51 utc | 26
Trump did not offer any beautiful beachfront property in Florida or Texas as a destination for the Palestinians to relocate to should they 'voluntarily' leave Gaza. If Trump offered Palestinians US citizenship they might leave. Trump may not know, but Palestinians do, that refugees displaced by wars have no citizenship and no legitimacy to exist anywhere once they leave their homes.
Posted by: Keme | Feb 5 2025 15:51 utc | 27
What is coming down the pipe.
1. They have offered EVERY government employee a pay out package to resign. That's right you have read that right. EVERY person that works for government.
2. They are going to abolish banking regulations.
3. Transport is the biggest source of US emissions. The US transportation secretary has ordered the removal of the words "climate change" and "greenhouse gas emissions" from all departmental material.
4. Trying to control the payments system.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 5 2025 15:51 utc | 28
When Bibi is gone Smotrich or some other Zionist will carry on.
This is not about a man, it's an ideology.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:36 utc | 18
Not precisely. Smotrich and Ben Gvir are a lot more stupid than Netanyahu. They'll quickly have the outside world up in arms, when Netanyahu would be able to get an outrageous act through.
Posted by: laguerre | Feb 5 2025 15:52 utc | 29
The Death Throes of Globalism?
The Rise of Greater America, the Fall of USAID, and the Birth of Mar-a-Gaza: Trumpian Spectacle or Strategic Retrenchment?
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/the-death-throes-of-globalism
From the Guardian this morning! Once again, you can trust nothing coming from the western MSM.
"Death toll in Gaza reaches 47,552, says Hamas-run health ministry
The death toll in Gaza since the start of Israeli operations in the territory after the 7 October attacks now stands at 47,552, according to the Hamas-run Palestinian Ministry of Health."
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 15:53 utc | 31
Posted by: Matt | Feb 5 2025 15:18 utc | 7
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Once out, racially supremacist Israel will never let them back in.
The resistance has been fighting since 1947.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 5 2025 15:54 utc | 32
I'm with you Arch. Maybe all the wishful thinkers will finally realize that Trump is just the next crooked regime scheme in murika... Genocide Joe was horrible, but with the Muskett take over of the Treasury system, ALL banking records, social security records, tax records, health records via medicare are now open to a sleaze one of whose biggest investors is - who else? vulture capitalist Singer, of Elliott management infamy, aka one of the small hats who pillaged Argentina some years back. Law suits are being filed, but that horse left the barn as far as I can see.
Back to the genocidal thieves Trumpstein and the Butcher, hopefully the world will finally truly believe that murika is not and never will be agreement capable and that any Izzy firster will absolutely be a back stabbing scoundrel. This unfortunately includes Saint RFK jr and the pretty girl from Hawaii.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 5 2025 15:54 utc | 33
I am as appalled as anyone about what's going on here, but: the idea that somehow it's immoral to have the Palestinians give up their ancestral homelands is rubbish. I mean, for the four years of the Biden administration the United States was being invaded by who knows how many people who were more than happy to abandon their ancestral homelands in exchange for not living in a shithole. IF a decent place can indeed be found for the Palestinians I would see that as a good solution - I just don't want them here, because while I sympathize with the horrible treatment the Palestinians are getting, they are nonetheless toxic. Why do you think nobody else wants them?
Posted by: TG | Feb 5 2025 15:55 utc | 34
Time for new names--Genocide Don and Genocidal US Empire. What's the status beyond Outlaw? Trump seems to be allied with Nuland, et al with destroying the Yalta-Potsdam-UN global security and international law arrangement. IMO, we can say the Neocon Trump has emerged from its closet and is being his own Pompeo. Meanwhile, Trump's domestic actions are threatening the wellbeing of small rural communities as much of their support systems are funded by grants--the ones he's suspended. And most of those places voted for Trump.
Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, just a moment.
What if...
[Smedley Butler, in 1933, revealed the 'Business Plot'.
Several oligarchs were planning a coup against Roosevelt.
The oligarchs could have been tried for treason, but Roosevelt
had another idea. He used what he knew about the oligarchs to
have them support his recovery/social plans. (yes, yes, debate this
paragraph if you want; I am only interested in offering an analogy)]
So, what if...Trump is buying for time until Netanyahu is in
an Israeli prison on corruption charges or, at least, forced out of office.
Then Trump can form a new deal with Netanyahu's successor.
By appearing to support Zionist miga dreams to the hilt he has the
Jewish mob (ADL, AIPAC, congress critters, oligarchs) off his back.
In fact, they will be less likely to oppose Trump's other programs,
including NATO, Ukraine, the Deep State.
Also, Trump is saying the quiet part out loud. Israel/Netanyahu are,
and have always been, murderous, treacherous, perfidious and covetous thieves.
Trump is parading the truth for all to see in grand style.
Devil's Advocate moment over.
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 15:56 utc | 36
Few people expected much change from Genocide Joe to Zion Don. So, yes, the degree of change toward direct escalation is rather shocking. Hindsight shows why BiBi didn't squeal outrage over the pause-fire: he and Zion Don had already made a devils' pact. Trump has now committed US forces to ethnic cleansing, no veil of separation.
"We'll own it... the Riviera of the Middle East.”
Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Feb 5 2025 15:57 utc | 37
I agree with Laith Marouf, speaking with Nima yesterday. The difference between US Democrats vs. US Republicans is that the first offers poison with honey on top while the second offers pure poison.
Laith Marouf: Israel Faces Fierce Resistance
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 5 2025 15:59 utc | 38
LoveDonbass 18
And the Ideology is that only Nazism can deliver what Allah has withheld.
La mani'ta li ma 'ataita, wa la 'ataita li ma manaita, wal yanfa'u jal jadda illa jadduk.
Nobody can give what Allah witholds , and nobody can withhold what Allah gives and no amount of power will assist , except Allah's power.
These morons just don't get it, that whatever is facilitated by a couple of deranged potuses, can never give credibility to the Jewish faith or erase the world's total condemnation of the USUKIS genocide in Sham / Palestine.
Even if it happens , it will bring Zero benefit either to Judaism or Khazar pseudo Jews. Owning a Land can never be a substitute for believing a faith, except for worshippers of Real Estate.
It just makes Trump look fatuous and shallow, and gives no benefits.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 5 2025 16:02 utc | 39
It may well become his Vietnam.
Posted by b on February 5, 2025 at 14:50 UTC | Permalink
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Trump's Vietnam? Bone Spurs!
In the fall of 1968, Donald J. Trump received a timely diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels that led to his medical exemption from the military during Vietnam....
“I know it was a favor,” said one daughter, Dr. Elysa Braunstein, 56, who along with her sister, Sharon Kessel, 53, shared the family’s account for the first time publicly when contacted by The New York Times.
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“What he got was access to Fred Trump,” Elysa Braunstein said. “If there was anything wrong in the building, my dad would call and Trump would take care of it immediately. That was the small favor that he got.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html
Its always a scam and a backhanded deal with Trump.
Let his family and circle be smeared with the Palestinian Genocide forever.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 5 2025 16:03 utc | 40
@Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 15:53 utc | 31
I think that number has been unchanged for a year at least. I guess they decided at some point the Palestinians were Untermensch not worthy of counting.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 5 2025 16:03 utc | 41
Netanyahu squirming behind the podium during the announcement.
https://x.com/awakenedoutlaw/status/1886998372810416146
I see Trump outright lying to people who deserve to be lied to.
Posted by: Matt | Feb 5 2025 16:04 utc | 42
What is coming down the pipe.
1. They have offered EVERY government employee a pay out package to resign. That's right you have read that right. EVERY person that works for government.
2. They are going to abolish banking regulations.
3. Transport is the biggest source of US emissions. The US transportation secretary has ordered the removal of the words "climate change" and "greenhouse gas emissions" from all departmental material.
4. Trying to control the payments system.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 5 2025 15:51 utc | 28
Cri de couer of a crypto Dem.
The Biden administration carried out the murder of those 500k innocents. I'm supposed to think they actually cared about the environment or that their government employees were somehow good people?
Let's stay on topic, Sun.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 16:05 utc | 43
rump has now committed US forces to ethnic cleansing, no veil of separation.
@Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Feb 5 2025 15:57 utc | 37
I am visualizing:
Marines landing on the shores of Gaza and being met
by crowds of beseeching children and mothers.
The Marines take a knee.
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 16:06 utc | 44
@Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 15:53 utc | 31
I think that number has been unchanged for a year at least. I guess they decided at some point the Palestinians were Untermensch not worthy of counting.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 5 2025 16:03 utc | 41
Id say they are just covering the scale of their atrocious crime against humanity.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 16:07 utc | 45
Only the surrounding Arab nations, united and will to sanction/war against Israel/USReal, will things change course.
Everyday I read how 60 Palestinians were taken to Egypt hospitals for treatment, another 80, another 120, another 45 ect…
Do they ever come back? Do they sign off to never come back?
30 apparently West Bank “announcement” by Trump.
Who would do anything about 1.7 million forced displacement? Who?
Sure, a lot of hooting and hollering and UN law breaking, but USReal could care a less about international law.
Just say, these Arab nations “publicly” stating “no”… mean nothing.
Another note, rumors swirling about US troops pulling out of Syria?
Why would that be?
Are we about to see Israel attack Iran via Syria and Turkey aid Israel? Some FF…
I’m guessing we will.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 5 2025 16:12 utc | 46
The key word here is "intractable" and should be kept front and center. What do you propose to do that is possible? A two state solution? That's completely impossible unless some international consortium takes over Palestine/Israel and eliminates the Israeli state. Israelis, on the whole, viscerally hate Palestinians specifically and Muslims (and to be frank, Christians) in general. It's a visceral and ideological hate--one that burns within the hearts of most Israelis. And, to a lesser extent, that hate is returned by Palestinians. There is simply no possibility of a Palestinian state in the WB and Gaza and we should stop pretending that that can exist unless there the Israeli state is gone.
Trump's solution is the only practical solution I've seen. Israel is far more powerful and supported, on the down-low, by the rich oil states in the region. Jordan and Egypt are both US dependencies in fact and will, ultimately, do as they are told unless Russia/China and their friends force the issue--but even then how do they solve the Palestinian/Israeli conflict? Palestinians, in reality despite all the hand-waving around the world have no real friends.
At this time, international law and the morality it implies is dead and not even on life-support. The corpse is rotting and beginning to smell bad. Let's bury it. Israel has been the source of endless conflict and, in my view, should disappear like the old Crusader states and Jews and Arabs should live together in a one-state solution. But that is impossible because Zionist Jews hold powerful position throughout the world partcularly in finance.
Again, what is the alternative to the Trump proposal as a practical matter and not some fantasy, e.g., that Israelis should suddenly value some universal moral law? Zionists only believe, ideally, in a world run by Jews.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 5 2025 16:12 utc | 47
Id say they are just covering the scale of their atrocious crime against humanity.
@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 16:07 utc | 45
Why believe any number whatsoever?
Do you believe Zios when they say 1,200 Zios dies on Oct 7th? Why?
How many Palestinians in Gaza pre-Oct 7th? Why believe any number
that you are told.
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 16:13 utc | 48
In November the federal gov't employed 3.003mm people.
381k work at federal hospitals, and another 605k work at the post office. 562k work at the Department of Defense. You can only cut so many of the 1.455mm left over working in other areas of government before basic stuff breaks.
Federal direct headcount is dangerously low already. As consecutive governments have shrunk the state.
Remember "improper spending" is in the eyes of the beholder if they get their hands on the payments system.
Just as right wing ideology believes human beings can be moved around the economy like ignots of steel. They fail to recognise that you need new spending (either government, private, or foreign) to compensate for any spending cuts or job losses.
Or you just end up with a slowdown/contraction. This was well-understood for centuries Foster & Catchings called it "compensatory spending."
So will US households and businesses and foreigners spend enough into the US economy to replace the spending cuts and job losses and the huge drop in demand ? Especially as tariffs bite.
China and Russia must be laughing their way to the bank.
There's only 2 places you can get money from. The government or the banks. The banks lend state money when they lend.
They are turning off the government spigot and turning on the bank lending spigot. Which is exactly what caused 2008.
It is gold standard, fixed exchange rate, art laffer trickle down economics. The Quick quid , money in your pockets loan shark economy. Hence why they are abolishing bank regulations.
As households and businesses and up drowning in private sector debt.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 5 2025 16:13 utc | 49
For b to take Trump's comment as a gauge of actual Gazan casualties is troubling, as it stupid. Statistically insignificant, the figure is dubious and grounded in little. I'm not arguing about the number, it's bad methodology. Trump is a garbage source of information anyway. B wasted too much on this very spurious (fake news) "fact". Bad statistics, bad logic, bad focus. It's a tangential point, perhaps worthy of note, just not really rooted in hard data
Posted by: Scottindallas | Feb 5 2025 16:14 utc | 50
Trump's solution is the only practical solution I've seen.
@Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 5 2025 16:12 utc | 47
Nevile Chamberlain would certainly agree with you.
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 16:17 utc | 51
Any Gov’t official that participates in these criminal actions will eventually be held liable. Their assets can be siezed to pay for damages. Long after they are gone, their estates can be siezed to pay for damages.
Crimes against Humanity have no statute of limitations .
The constellation of forces has changed.
Posted by: Exile | Feb 5 2025 16:18 utc | 52
The Marines take a knee.
librul | Feb 5 2025 16:06 utc | 44
Amen. So be it.
Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Feb 5 2025 16:19 utc | 53
I doubt the Orange Yankee POTUS - cares what the international community thinks of his permanent ethnic cleansing plans for Gaza, he'll accommodate whatever Netanyahu wants - partly because as you say he's a businessman - and, he won't want to upset his pro-Zionist backers, who helped put him where he is in the first place - not to mention that Trump has an ego the size of a house.
Just like Southern Lebanon, Netanyahu has no right to the lands of Gaza or the West Bank - under International Law these are occupied lands - of course as we are seeing Netanyahu and Israel for that matter, appearing to be above International Laws, and they will remain so - as long as the likes of the USA/Germany, and UK back them and their genocide.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 5 2025 16:20 utc | 54
I just watched Judging Freedom with Doctorow and a couple of points were made.
Doctorow said that Trump promised what he did knowing it will never happen but giving Bibi a win to take home [I think to potential die soon with, eh?].
There was also discussion about how Trumps attack on USAID and now offering to buyout all CIA employees shows desire to stop forever wars and big parts of deepstate.....so nations are watching and withholding a certain level of judgement.
Its all Hollywood with Genocide Don....
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 5 2025 16:22 utc | 55
Republic of Scotland. After Trump the businessman talks to the Saudis he might see throwing the Gazans under the bus is bad for business.
People forget Jefferson's observation that "All Governments get their authority from consent of the governed." Egypt may be a US satrap, but they can't inflame their own citizens without consequences. Same goes for Jordan or even the Saudi Royal family.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Feb 5 2025 16:25 utc | 56
Let's stay on topic, Sun.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 16:05 utc | 43
Will do just wanted to let everyone what was coming down the pipe. There is a lot more crazy heading our way.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 5 2025 16:25 utc | 57
Trump attacking the Deep State and the neocons are helping him do it all. When I warned that he didn't cut their security clearances, when he couldn't identify them in the debates (which would have earned him many, many more votes). He never could. Either he's unaware, he's sold out, or is too stupid. Pig in a poke.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Feb 5 2025 16:28 utc | 58
@scottindallas
If trump really wanted to eliminate the 'deep state' he would have revoked security clearance for anyone in the gov employ that holds dual citizenship anywhere else.
Posted by: motorslug | Feb 5 2025 16:31 utc | 59
The Orange Yankee POTUS - wants to send in Yankee troops to Gaza - its more than likely to evict/kill returning Palestinians - this tells me that the Zionist IOF isn't up to the job - and that Netanyahu needs Yankee troops to secure Gaza - which is occupied land - so the neither the Yankees nor the Zionists should be on the ground in Gaza.
We have to remember that Trump - is pro-Zionist, he granted sovereignty (illegally I might add) of the Golan Height (Syrian Lands) to Israel - the Orange Yankee POTUS, also had declared that Jerusalem, a UN internationally protected city - (resolution 181 of November 29, 1947 the General Assembly of the United Nations recommended that the City of Jerusalem be established as a corpus separatum) as the capital of Israel.
"The US will take control of Gaza, President Donald Trump has proposed, pledging to rebuild the war-torn Palestinian enclave and create economic opportunities for its future residents. When asked if US troops would be deployed, Trump vowed to “do what is necessary.”
Speaking on Tuesday following a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House, Trump reiterated his view that Palestinians should be permanently resettled elsewhere, adding that the US would “take over” Gaza and lead efforts to clear the destruction left by 15 months of war between Israel and Hamas.
“The US will take over the Gaza Strip. And we will do a job with it, too. We’ll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site,” Trump said, promising to “level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings.”"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 5 2025 16:33 utc | 60
[email protected] one day we could meet at Trump Plaza Gaza..... I'll buy you a glass of water.....
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 5 2025 16:33 utc | 61
Netanyahu squirming behind the podium during the announcement.https://x.com/awakenedoutlaw/status/1886998372810416146
I see Trump outright lying to people who deserve to be lied to.
Posted by: Matt | Feb 5 2025 16:04 utc | 42
Trump wants Gaza for American Jews. Netanyahu wants Gaza
for Israeli Jews.
Is this creating a family fight,
a tug-of-war for Gaza? Or just business negotiations?
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 16:36 utc | 62
I am no Trump lover but even Trump's closest allies don't believe this nonsense.
What could US soldiers do better to get Palestinians leaving Gaza than the IOF did during 16 months of genocide ?
I think Trump is repaying its debts to the AIPAC lobby with words only, words which would help Netanyahu in terms of internal Israeli politics but except that, nothing will really change.
If Trump wanted to make a real gift to Netanyahu, he will be sending US soldiers to Syria to keep the SDF strong in order to keep Turkey away from the Israeli/Syria border, or even to maintain order in case of mass deportation of Palestinians from the West Bank to Jordan and Syria.
Posted by: Nour | Feb 5 2025 16:39 utc | 63
There is a lot of discussion here about Trump and his "fantasies", e.g. making Gaza too small for America, relocating Palestinians is tantamount to the forced relocation of the Jews, which led to Israel.
BUT
Nobody here mentions what Trump as a businessman is surely actually looking at...
The huge gas and oil field off the coast of Gaza that Israel has so far taken sole possession of and has already issued licenses for, barely since the first bomb fell on Gaza.
This deal for Trump is not even mentioned here...and in principle was probably the basis of the talks between Trump and Bibi.
Quite simply because it corresponds to Trump's character. They have natural resources in Ukraine...although Trump's knowledge is probably not enough to understand that around 70% of them are already under Putin's control, and will probably reach up to 85%...
In my opinion, it will end up being around 95%...because Putin has no reason to give them up because Trump and his oligarchs don't want to lose their investments...
Trillions gone, and that could be the death blow on the stock market for Blackrock and thus the US economy.
But...as I said, no media or press even mentions the gas field off Gaza's coast...why is that?
"Follow the money" and find the real reasons...there was never peace!
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Posted by: berthold | Feb 5 2025 16:41 utc | 64
Posted by: librul | Feb 5 2025 16:17 utc | 51
So your solution is just another pointless question? Chamberlain gave in to the Nazis because he did not want a war. But, here's the key, there were major states that could oppose Hitler whereas, with Israel, there are no powerful states in a position to oppose Israel/USA. Again, where is the practical solution?
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 5 2025 16:42 utc | 65
The question is whether this is or is not a pipe(dream) cooked up in the laboratories of Mossad and unleashed upon the world Oct 7 or just the spitting image and perfect simulacrum of a conspiracy extending from before that fateful date to the present? Yes, Biden was secretly senile, but it was no conspiracy. Yes, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but though there was no smoking gun neither was it a conspiracy. And yes the female tower watchers of the IDF had been warning for months that Mossad—I mean—Hamas knew everything about them and were surely up to no good. But again, this was the fault of residual patriarchy in the IDF and at most the merest simulacrum of connivance, deception, or conspiracy. Yes, Mossad was able to impeccably conspire against foreign states and foreign companies, not to mention Hezbollah, in their pager war against the latter and yes even Nord Stream was likely taken out by partisans of Ukraine, but this should not be read as a conspiracy by the Ukraine government proper, let alone the US. And yes Trump is openly threatening to incorporate Canada, invade Greenland, confiscate the Panama Canal, and appropriate itself of Gaza, but this doesn't signal even the slightest hint or whiff of deep state conspiracy against laws foreign or domestic. It's simply brazen and impetuous daydreaming of daylight robbery. However even though these enumerated wonders are passing strange indeed, they do not signal even a quasi or partial constellation of conspiracy, whose most recent and luminous cynosure might wrongly be mistaken to be Oct 7 itself.
Posted by: Ludovic | Feb 5 2025 16:42 utc | 66
I can see how a US "takeover" of Gaza could be a Vietnam type situation in the sense that this land couldn't be rid of Palestinians or Hamas easily. If Egypt opened its border to the flow of Palestinians for resettlement, many would undoubtedly go, but many would not, and they even have the means to maintain a government structure in their vast system of tunnels, so they could fight on indefinitely.
One would expect that, while the US has the military capability to resettle, kill, or otherwise remove ALL of the Palestinians, does it have the will to do so? That is THE question, the answer of which would determine whether this would be Trump's Vietnam.
However, there is one HUGE difference here versus any war ever fought by US forces. While the West has collectively sent its boys to die in wars in large part at the whim of organized Jewry, this one would be fought DIRECTLY on their behalf, pretty much without question. Still, the capacity to absorb and accept ANY concocted narrative CANNOT be exaggerated in the masses. In times of pessimism, one can find merit in the argument that we deserve to be marched off the cliff to which we are being led.
Using their vast influence over the very perceived "reality" of Western populations and their power to influence the US government to bend to and act on their will, they likely could avoid a large part of the Vietnam-like popular resistance to such genocidal actions that would surely spring up in the US.
Israel has already been actively enacting a policy of genocide against Gaza, while the rest of the world offers only impotent protests, which also supports the feasibility of this diabolical plan.
In further clarification of THE question presented prior, it really boils down to whether enough of organized Jewry supports this plan and the will to implement it. Among the many risks of doing so is the potential for the actual truth to pierce the veil of censorship (and other means) that has so successfully suppressed such pertinent knowledge throughout the West since WWII, which would cause anti-Semitism to rise exponentially.
Posted by: BADmejr | Feb 5 2025 16:43 utc | 67
" Egypt may be a US satrap, but they can't inflame their own citizens without consequences."
Scottindallas (56).
Hardly.
"We also have the example of Egypt’s only ever democratically elected leader, President Morsi, who died horribly in jail after being overthrown by a CIA coup because he failed to take the elementary precaution of dismissing and imprisoning all the military regime’s corrupt judges."
On the above, I don't recall the Egyptians rise up and take back their country - after what happened to Morsi.
As for the Saudi's - like much of the International community they don't care about the Palestinians - and Saudi Arabia is in a predicament - like many gulf dictatorships, if it doesn't comply with the US/Israeli agendas - then the US and Israel will instigated via its oppressed citizens - regime change - till a puppet leader is found.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 5 2025 16:44 utc | 68
Posted by: BADmejr | Feb 5 2025 16:43 utc | 68
Among the many risks of doing so is the potential for the actual truth to pierce the veil of censorship (and other means) that has so successfully suppressed such pertinent knowledge throughout the West since WWII, which would cause anti-Semitism to rise exponentially.
That is one virtue to Trump's plan. This could, indeed, pierce the veil of BS around the highly toxic ideas of Zionism which few people know about since the Western media is not allowed to even begin to mention the nature of the Zionist version of the Jewish religion which is emphatically anti-spiritual and is instead a worship of a tribe. When more people realize this so called anti-Semitism will indeed rise.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 5 2025 16:54 utc | 69
It's ironic that Trump pushed the HOT SEAT under Satanyahu's sorry arse. Every country in the world has rejected this daydream. It's beaut that Bibi was stupid enough to think that Trump has done him a favour. But all Trump did was to help Bibi shoot himself in both feet.
This ploy marked the date of the beginning of the end of the Middle East's only Shitty Little Fake Country.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 5 2025 16:57 utc | 70
This is T-Rumps "Art Of The Deal" game. He is promising the moon, with no conceivable way to deliver. It (he) has the European Ashkanazi fake jews hypnotized and they can not see the fact of what T-Rump is promising is impossible for him to deliver. T-Rump is doing this because he needs the support of a sizable chunk of the European Ashkanazi fake jews.
Posted by: Hot Carl | Feb 5 2025 16:58 utc | 71
75 or so years of a complete charade on the part of the usa peace keeping and honest broker role... topped off with a jackass for president giving it the final touches..
Posted by: james | Feb 5 2025 16:58 utc | 72
The look in the face of Bibi tells it all : he cum ... several time.
The only "The Presidents of the United States of America" worth compliments is now the rock band with that name.
related music : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkfwi9ISaho
Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 5 2025 17:08 utc | 73
The idea that there is a place on the planet that can simply accept two million people is quite bizarre. The idea that people are being relocated not killed is much more palatable. Where did they all go? To their new home. . But there is not many there. Dont be silly they are all there enjoying their new lives. This is the native American recipe so deeply enshrined in American culture as unfortunate but necessary. The difference being that the Palestinians are fully functioning in a modern world with its ethics and boundaries. When you listen to Israelis being interviewed what they say over rand over is "the Arabs need to go away". For that to happen there must be a never never land. This is the purpose of this relocation cover story. Gaza and the west bank were the original never never lands but now just like the 200 some treatys made with the native Americans that habitat is repoed.
At its basis is a rather nasty reality of a planet with limited capabilities to support human habitation. Trumps version where wealthy sip martinis in Gaza casinos is only one version of different realities where resource allocation is determined by technological force.
This will be done with contractors. The tunnels will be cleared to start. They have had 14 months to develop methods to do so. That will start the second the last hostage is delivered. Of course the generals plan has not been abandoned. This next stage will be totally different. Trump loves his war technology fitting in with his extreme narcissism that he is a innovator. What is also fully revealed is Trumps understanding that good habitat is a thing of great value and he will take it with force without a second thought. This complete abandonment of all attempts of modern societies to find peaceful coexistence is very disturbing.
Of course technology has always had a piviaol role where populations are eliminated and their habitat taken but never in recent times. The blatant use of force to take habitat in Gaza and soon the West bank can have only one result. Nations will desperately seek to arm themselves with destructive technology's. This will lead to destructive technology's in the hands of those that otherwise would not posses them.
A idea held by all he USA politicians is wealth with always create superior destructive technology's. Technology evolves to a beat of its own and wealth is only one factor. Gaza is now openly shown to be a depopulation exercise. Is it really a stretch to consider the Ukraine might be the same? Ultimately how many people are needed to sip martinis? It seems obvious to me that those with power will cut deals regarding depopulation. That works only as long as those nations chosen to be sacrificed do not posses instruments of depopulation themselves. Will the exchange be genuine or a small nation used as a scapegoat for larger depopulation goals? Exciting times.
Posted by: ourworld | Feb 5 2025 17:10 utc | 74
Prima facie, Netanyahu lured Trump into a trap by enticing him with a seductive scenario of massive lucrative business in Gaza’s reconstruction.
The question is, did Netanyahu lure Trump into a trap, or did Trump lure Netanyahu into a trap? It could be either. I don't know, but I am a lot more inclined to believe the latter.
For all his bluster, consider his actions since 20th January. He was well prepared. Is it plausible that he could believe it would be possible, when for virtually anyone in the world even a microsecond is enough to know for certain that it is impossible? Consider also the way he sent Steve Witkoff to bludgeon Netanyahu into signing the ceasefire.
Trump absolutely LOATHES Netanyahu. He is a vengeful person and has never forgiven Netanyahu for congratulating Biden in 2020 even while the vote counts were in controversy.
Consider also the constraints Trump faces getting the appointees he needs most past the deep state. Gabbard and RFK have just passed the first hurdle and will be put to the full vote soon.
Trump is cunning and devious. I think there is an extent to which the zionist flakey appointees were bait thrown to the wolves to get is most important appointees in.
Maybe it is a trap to force Netanyahu to commit irrevocably to Phase 2 of the ceasefire, after which he will "innocently" say: "Oh Bibi, I made such a beautiful proposal, but Egypt Jordan and Saudi Arabia all rejected it out of hand." By that time his most important appointees will have been approved and he will have more room for manoeuver.
Since the start of his presidency there have been many surprises. It is certain there will be many more.
Time will tell.
Posted by: BM | Feb 5 2025 17:11 utc | 75
[email protected] Mr Putin not want Gaza for Russian Jews? Always use the big brush, be inclusive.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 5 2025 17:15 utc | 76
Trump was actually talking about America taking over and owning Gaza...Bibi did not look pleased...Trump was trolling Bibi with the absurd idea of turning Gaza into a waterfront Las Vegas, which would cost trillions...and who would go there?
Posted by: pyrrhus | Feb 5 2025 17:17 utc | 77
@ BM | Feb 5 2025 17:11 utc | 76
that might explain it.. thanks..
Posted by: james | Feb 5 2025 17:18 utc | 78
I genuinely think that this is a distraction for the masses from the US of A failures over the last couple of years. country 404 comes to mind. The orange man desperately needs a win but that seems very much far fetched from where I stand.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 5 2025 17:20 utc | 79
Move the Gazans out? That isn't even the start of it for "Greater Israel". What about the west bank, the desert "up to the Nile" in Egypt, or Jordan, across Syria and Lebanon, part of Saudi Arabia (down as far as Mecca?), and now including Kuwait (new ;- GT "expands" if there is something to steal). They will never try to be satisfied.
I like B's example of a Gazan territory all across southern Israel (posted on his X site in red), just shows how a new Palestinian state could be recreated. Unfortunately it is now realised that 80% of "Jews" agree with the dispossesion of Palestinians, and would almost certainly be the "people of the world" that Trump is talkng about.
*****
The "official" count already went into the 67'000's after some people returned to Northern Gaza and found so many bits of bodies, and there have already been attempts by IDF bulldozers and lorries to remove some of the remains and rubble that would include those that died. ie children, women and some males.
This was not a serious suggestion, and should be ignored...It's just more psychological warfare to soften Bibi up for whatever Trump's real plan might be....
Posted by: pyrrhus | Feb 5 2025 17:21 utc | 81
From the Riviera to the Sea... Israelis are always thieves..
Posted by: Rubiconned | Feb 5 2025 17:23 utc | 82
Since 1947 hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been murdered by the IDF and its related gangs of paramilitary thugs, millions have been displaced, tens of thousands of homes, businesses, farms, orchards, pastures, vineyards have been stolen....
The DJT plan for Club Med in Gaza is DOA..........
Removal of the Palestinians from their own homeland is genocidal......there is zero support for this in the US (except from AIPAC) and worldwide.....next...........
Posted by: tobis cole | Feb 5 2025 17:24 utc | 83
Honestly, after all the indiscriminate zionazi bombing they've endured in the tiny open-air concentration camp called Gaza between October 2023 and January 2025, I believe the number of murdered Palestinians is much higher than 500 000.
In a way, it's great that the Orange Used Car Salesman™ is open about his employers' genocidal intentions in Palestine, for it gives the rest of the world a rare opportunity to see the true face and character of the "leader of the free world" and hedge accordingly...
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Feb 5 2025 17:30 utc | 84
Re “chamberlain”, please stop referencing him the way oligarch historians do.
Given what we know about UKUS behavior at the time, Chamberlain probably wanted hitler to continue his expansion eastward and to fight the Bolsheviks. And maybe deliver a double-tap mortal wound to the French Empire, too. (Speaking of which, a round of applause to Macron for overseeing the withdrawal of troops from another French slave plantation! Congratulations to you, too, Sarkozy and Hollande. This is your win too! Bwahaha…)
Anyway, saying “peace in our time” means as much as the pro-peace memes from other fakes like Wilson, Zelensky, FDR, etc.
Anyone think Chamberlain was any different? Ya mean the British Empire chose such a naive twit as their PM?
Western oligarch historians taught us the “peace in our time” and “appeasement” memes before we reached adulthood or to really scrutinize the kabuki.
Posted by: I forgot | Feb 5 2025 17:35 utc | 85
What we don't know at this time is whether this is some kind of ploy or feint...
Trump bluffs a lot, as do all people in business. Trump has no problem "reversing" himself so, it's well within the realm of possibility that this could be some type of ruse.
Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 5 2025 17:40 utc | 86
Back to the distraction I mentioned earlier.
Are the the Pentagon and CIA already positioning NATO forces for a massive assault on Russia through Poland, to be followed by simultaneous destabilization in the Caucasus and an unexpected strike through Pakistan?
Is this the 24-hours peace pledge later extended to 100 days?
The Kremlin seems to be ready for it!
Posted by: pepe | Feb 5 2025 17:40 utc | 87
As we're seeing, Trump's a very big promoter and actor in Cancel Culture, as in canceling all international decisions related to Palestine, not just now but in his previous administration too. That the usual aides in facilitating Cancel Culture internationally have made verbal pushback against this latest cancelation is perhaps notable but will soon evaporate.
I wrote the following in a reply at my substack:
"IMO, Putin should refuse a person-to-person with Trump and in tell him over the phone: The only thing you respect are our missiles as you refuse to conform to any law and thus nothing you say or agree to can be believed."
Chamberlain gave in to the Nazis because he did not want a war. But, here's the key, there were major states that could oppose Hitler whereas, with Israel, there are no powerful states in a position to oppose Israel/USA. Again, where is the practical solution?
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 5 2025 16:42 utc | 66
Here's the practical solution ... don't commit genocide, follow international law and enforce the UN resolutions on Palestine. Israel is in the wrong ... it's as simple as that.
Neville Chamberlain crime is letting ideology get in the way of strategy. In 1938 the Soviets approached Britain and France to ally against Germany and were rejected. Stalin knew at the time that European Russia was the Lebensraum that Hitler was talking about and he also knew that germany didn't want to fight a 2 front war.
Stalins solution was to enter into a non-aggresion pact with Germany before the Germans could make a non-aggression pact with GB/France against him. He engineered the invasion of Poland which he knew would result in a declaration of war from GB/France due to treaty obligations which would mean France would have to be finished off before Hitler turned his attention on Russia.
Stalins miscalculation was he expected GB/France to last more than 2 months against Germany. Unfortunately the story is told a little differently in the west these days. Que sera.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 5 2025 17:41 utc | 89
Speaking truth to power is of essence for all who value individual freedom and the right of indigenous people to remain in their homelands. Thank you b for driving home this elementary truth.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 5 2025 17:43 utc | 90
Id say they are just covering the scale of their atrocious crime against humanity.
@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 5 2025 16:07 utc | 45
Did you even see that 47,000 is the count of the Hamas health authorities? What are you trying to say, that Hamas committed crimes against humanity and are trying to cover it up? Because the number came from them.
It was Donald "Russia has lost one million men in Ukraine" Trump who gave the number 500,000, not Hamas.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 5 2025 17:44 utc | 91
Trump just speaks out what Biden and his European allies have set in motion a year and a half ago. Not only Amerika provided the bombs and the weapons to not only kill probably several hundred thousand civilians directly and a lot more indirectly. They outlawed any and all protest against the alleged genocide, and provided moral support for killing doctors and journalists, for destroying schools and hospitals and entire blocks of living space with weapons of mass destruction. Governments and media have no problem at all with Netanyahu continuing the genocide in the West Bank, where the official excuse of "fighting Hamas" does not apply at all.
Just look at the pictures and videos of the destruction in Gaza and the West Bank. Does anybody seriously think any of it, let alone all of it, can be rebuild? Even if funding could be found, Israel would block the delivery of building materials, and shoot any builders or aid workers for "supporting Hamas".
Get real: nobody in charge anywhere in the EU or in the US has any illusion about how this will end.
The only difference: While the bureaucrats mumble stupidities about "terrorism" and "right to self defense" and "the only democracy in the middle East, Trump tells what's really happening. Beat him up for it if you must,he's still doing bad things. But in my book, doing bad things and being honest about it is a hell of letter better than putting up a facade of defending values and doing the right thing while facilitating a genocide.
Posted by: Marvin | Feb 5 2025 17:49 utc | 92
The Zionists need some slave workers, so they won't deport all of them.
Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 5 2025 15:10 utc | 3
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Nah, they’ll just import more Thais.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2025 17:50 utc | 93
Good column. Americans must rise. USrael must go.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 5 2025 17:50 utc | 94
librul @36
Dastardly Don is actually a committed member of the Chabad. He is first and foremost always concerned about the future prosperity of the insidious group that wants humanity controlled or just....gone.
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2025 17:51 utc | 95
Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 5 2025 17:40 utc | 87
"As do all people in business."
Not where I'm from.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 5 2025 17:54 utc | 96
“Riviera of the Middle East” - highly desirable residences within easy reach of Hezbollah rockets and only 10mins commuting time by hypersonics from Tehran...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 5 2025 17:54 utc | 97
David @14: "Trump has removed the mask"
Great move, too! Now nobody can pretend the genocide isn't happening. The Europeons are bleating piteously now, but it is not like genocide and ethnic cleansing just started with Trump's words.
Anyone who prefers the approach by the Biden handlers of pretending concern for the victims of genocide while shipping the bombs to enable that genocide, to the Trump approach of saying out loud what is happening, is a fraud and a hypocrite. You don't really care about the genocide, you just want to be able to pretend it has nothing to do with you. You hate Trump not because he is taking part in the genocide, but because he strips you of your cloak of deniability and respectability.
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 5 2025 17:54 utc | 98
Trump's decision to force the Gaza Palestinians into exile puts the US Democrat party into a predicament. Both parties want Israel to be a pure homeland for jews unpolluted by Palestinian animals. However, the Democrats want to mass murder the Palestinians. Joe Biden spoke against forced exile.
What are the Democrats going to do now? Will they argue that mass murder is cheaper, kinder, more realistic? Or will they support Trump's plan. Or will they just keep quiet, as they are doing a lot of right now?
There is one thing the Dems can't do and that is to support the Palestinians and uphold international law. The Democrats won't just disappear because they need to be kept alive to keep out a new party that would support the Palestinians, and stand up to US oligarchs.
One thing that makes me feel good about Trump is that maybe he is the "pryde that goeth before a fall."
Posted by: Chas | Feb 5 2025 17:55 utc | 99
Giyane @39
It's all a Kibuki Theatre to the masses. Putin is tied/controlled by the Chabad just like Donny and Iran has been controlled by the Khomeini Jewish Clan since Late Persia time. They are ALL controlled by ((Them))...
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2025 17:55 utc | 100
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This comes as absolutely no shock. Did anyone at the bar REALLY think he was gonna be a change from genocide joe?
Posted by: motorslug | Feb 5 2025 15:03 utc | 1