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February 1, 2025
Rubio: “It’s not normal for the world to have a unipolar power.”

President Joe Biden showed a lunatic believe of being 'the leader of world'. He cherished the extension of the 'unilateral moment' when the U.S., after the breakdown of the Soviet Union, could act globally without restrictions and without fear of consequences.

There is some dread abroad that President Donald Trump, with his boarish demanding style of negotiation, would also follow that view.

But Trump's choice as Secretary of State, former Senator Marco Rubio, is offering a different perspective. In an extensive interview with Megyn Kelly, Rubio is doing away with the unilateral moment and starts to endorse multipolarity.

He is asked for his big picture overview:

QUESTION: It’s such a tricky time to be Secretary of State, especially as a Republican, because you look at the Republican Party and it’s fractured internally about where we should be on foreign policy. […] So how – just give me the 30,000-foot-level view of how you’re going to navigate that fracture.

Rubio seems to have thought quite a bit about this. Foreign policy as practiced over the last years, he says, has lost its focus:

I think the mission of American foreign policy – and this may sound sort of obvious, but I think it’s been lost. The interest of American foreign policy is to further the national interest of the United States of America, right? [..]

[A]nd that’s the way the world has always worked. The way the world has always worked is that the Chinese will do what’s in the best interests of China, the Russians will do what’s in the best interest of Russia, the Chileans are going to do what’s in the best interest of Chile, and the United States needs to do what’s in the best interest of the United States. Where our interests align, that’s where you have partnerships and alliances; where our differences are not aligned, that is where the job of diplomacy is to prevent conflict while still furthering our national interests and understanding they’re going to further theirs. And that’s been lost.

To recognize that the other side is pursuing its own (at least subjectively legitimate) interests is indeed what had been lost at the basis of U.S. diplomacy.

Rubio expands on that:

And I think that was lost at the end of the Cold War, because we were the only power in the world, and so we assumed this responsibility of sort of becoming the global government in many cases, trying to solve every problem. And there are terrible things happening in the world. There are. And then there are things that are terrible that impact our national interest directly, and we need to prioritize those again. So it’s not normal for the world to simply have a unipolar power. That was not – that was an anomaly. It was a product of the end of the Cold War, but eventually you were going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi-great powers in different parts of the planet. We face that now with China and to some extent Russia, and then you have rogue states like Iran and North Korea you have to deal with.

That is a great (if very late) insight from a U.S. secretary for foreign policy.

The Biden administration had overextended the unilateral moment by underestimating Russia. It had launched the proxy-war in Ukraine because it had thought that Russia was weak. It limited technical exports to China because it thought that would hinder its development. It was so blind that it came to believe that it was successful in this.

In an exit interview with the Financial Times Biden's national security advisor Jake Sullivan is still making those claims (archived):

“Our alliances are stronger than they’ve been in a very long time. Our competitors and adversaries are weaker too in ways that have defied expectations, certainly with China. And we’ve produced that very strong American hand without getting entangled in war overseas,” [Sullivan] argues.

People with clear eyes have a different view. Since the U.S. started its proxy-war in Ukraine, which that country is losing, Russia has nearly tripled its forces. The former British commodore Steve Jermy asserts that NATO would lose in a conflict with it:

In summary, NATO is positioning itself as Europe’s defender, yet lacks the industrial capacity to sustain peer-to-peer warfighting, is wholly dependent on U.S. forces for the remotest chance of success, is unable satisfactorily to defend its sea lines of communication against Russian submarine, or its training and industrial infrastructure against strategic ballistic bombardment, is comprised of a diverse mix of un-bloodied conventional forces, and lacks the capacity to think and act strategically.

An easy NATO victory cannot be assumed, and I am afraid that the opposite looks far more likely to me.

Sullivan's 'success' in limiting China's progress has also defeated itself (archived):

China policy, [Sullivan] adds, was another achievement. “America is in a demonstrably better position in the long-term competition with China than we were, and yet we did it while stabilising the relationship and finding areas to work together.”

He says the US and China are in a “decisive decade” that will determine which comes out ahead in key areas such as artificial intelligence and the transition to a clean energy economy. “Four out of those 10 years in the decisive decade . . . [have] turned in America’s favour in a really significant way,” says Sullivan, adding that the export controls the US imposed on high-end chips and manufacturing equipment have had a “demonstrable impact”.

They indeed had a demonstrable impact. Lacking access to U.S. made tools China set out to make its own, better ones:

Days after our lunch, a Chinese company called DeepSeek stunned Silicon Valley by unveiling an AI model that appears to rival US models. After the news broke, I emailed Sullivan to get his reaction. He says it shows that the US needs to “stay on our game” but he is “still confident in the American lead” in AI. He stresses that it “only reinforces” his view on the importance of export controls.

China has in fact blown up the U.S. idea of having expensive to use, privately owned AI models closed off from public scrutiny. It open-sourced its own better models which can now be used for mere pennies. There is no longer an 'American lead' in this field.

Rubio seems to have understood that unilateral behavior has failed and that a multilateral world requires to pragmatically compromise:

So now more than ever we need to remember that foreign policy should always be about furthering the national interest of the United States and doing so, to the extent possible, avoiding war and armed conflict, which we have seen two times in the last century be very costly.

[N]ow you can have a framework by which you analyze not just diplomacy but foreign aid and who we would line up with and the return of pragmatism. And that’s not an abandonment of our principles. I’m not a fan or a giddy supporter of some horrifying human rights violator somewhere in the world. By the same token, diplomacy has always required us and foreign policy has always required us to work in the national interest, sometimes in cooperation with people who we wouldn’t invite over for dinner or people who we wouldn’t necessarily ever want to be led by. And so that’s a balance, but it’s the sort of pragmatic and mature balance we have to have in foreign policy.

There are many foreign policy points in Rubio's long interview I wholeheartedly disagree with.

But I am delighted to see that he gets the basic principal right: the U.S. has interests; so do others(!); surviving requires compromise.

Comments

Natalya Volkova | Feb 2 2025 16:32 utc | 173–
Thanks for your reply. I assumed you’d be very busy during the Russian holiday season. I thank you for your interest in what I’ve been writing about, and yes the comment platform at the Gym is better for conversing. MoA is very much like the old list-serve format, but the content and Berhard’s writing is what keeps it going.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2025 2:06 utc | 201

dontflayme | Feb 2 2025 13:22 utc | 159–
Thanks for your reply. There’re two main reasons why most of what Trump has bellowed won’t happen. The first is huge and relates to International Law–the days of buying other people are over as they get a say in the matter that approves or not. Second, the Outlaw US Empire is broke, bankrupt; its currency is worthless; its financial structure in dire straits, and it has a huge set of social problems that’ve been ignored for 25 years.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2025 2:15 utc | 202

@steven t johnson | Sun, 02 Feb 2025 23:30:00 GMT | 196

Being compulsive nitpicker, the Concert of Europe somehow accommodated the Greek War of Independence; the Crimean War; the Second War of Italian Independence; the Schleswig-Holstein War; the Franco-Prussian War; the Russo-Turkish War which entangles with the independence/official recognition of multiple Balkan states. Plus there are the later Balkan Wars.

The Concert of Europe wasn’t perfect, but before most of those wars it morphed into a multipolar alliance system. The conference system collapsed in the 1830s, and the Italian and Germanic wars of reunification were fought in the 1860s and 1870s. With the Crimean war in 1856. There was still a relative great power peace for at least thirty years after 1815, and given the near constant warfare of the previous seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, that’s a long time.
Between 1495-1815 there were 90 wars involving great powers in the European subsystem. A war every 3.5 years. Between 1815-1914 there were roughly 11 great power wars. One every 9 years.
Having a multipolar, bipolar, or unipolar system does not mean the absence of war. There will always be war in the world. During the “unipolar moment” the US led the Kosovo war, and failed to prevent war/genocide in Rwanda, the Congo, the Balkans, etc. What is missing presently is great power vs. great power wars. There hasn’t been a serious great power war since WWII, and nuclear weapons may play a factor in that.
So the question is will that change with multipolarity, and will great power wars increase? If America goes quietly and contracts without a whimper, then probably not. The danger is if American primacists, conditioned to believe only American power can prevent great power war (a false premise), lash out as American power declines.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 3 2025 3:29 utc | 203

“That is a great (if very late) insight from a U.S. secretary for foreign policy.” b
Fully agree. Rubio does appear to get it – now let’s see how he can act on it – or as much of ‘it’ as he gets.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 3 2025 4:23 utc | 204

I google and find that Marco Rubio tells about his Mormon Childhood.
It so happens that Mathew Ehret explains the connection between the Mormons and Freemasonry both sharing exactly similar ominous threats for revealing internal secrets of the respective sects. They emerged as there was a purge in american freemasonry after 1826 when the evil side managed to get rid of the better masons who carried the beliefs of the original generation of the american independence movement.
I take it those better masons were christians while Scottish Rite belonged to the group of active elements who aspired to a new world Religion tied to the occult.
This context is vast but Ehret does a good job, I think, in bringing it to his readers in Revenge of the Mystery Cults (vol 3 is the one I have read)
It hangs well together with other texts by Ehret and Chung

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 3 2025 7:09 utc | 205

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Panama has insisted that its sovereignty over the Panama Canal is “non-negotiable” after US President-elect Donald Trump refused to rule out military force to seize it.
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Marco Rubio on Sunday warned Panama’s President Jose Raul Mulino that Washington will “take measures necessary” if Panama does not immediately take steps to end what President Donald Trump sees as China’s influence and control over the Panama Canal
Rubio presses Panama to reduce Chinese influence over its canal … – PBS
POST RUBIO’S VISIT………..
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Update: Following a meeting with the US secretary of state, Panama’s president announces his government won’t renew China BRI agreement and will look to end it early.
Panama agrees to end canal deal with China after Rubio visit – Fox News
Panama’s president vowed Sunday to end a key development deal with China after meeting with Secretary of State Marco Rubio and after complaints from President Donal
Summarize-
Panama would ..
*End canal deal with China
*Quit BRI
*Carrying out an audit on a company linked to China that operates two terminals around the canal , the report would be submitted to Washington
China !
Another one bites the dust !
Thats aLl folks !

Posted by: denk | Feb 3 2025 7:57 utc | 206

Sounds like they just realized how to game the ” new” world order, multipolarity.
US interest still is to keep the Dollar relevant and milk everyone else.
Pity Rubio hadn’t identified the US as the one rogue (exception nation), of course there’s that other fake genocidal entity.

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 3 2025 8:28 utc | 207

Here is a rule of thumb that should be especially applied to the criminal class called American politicians: Watch what they do, not what they say.
Marco Rubio’s pretty-sounding words about “acknowledging multipolarity” and the interests of other great powers is about as sincere as a used car salesmen.
In the past 2 weeks or so that the Trump Regime has been in power:
-The USA has lifted the ban on 2000 lb bunker buster bombs to Israel, which even Genocide Joe Biden was reluctant to send.
-Pushed for Egypt and Jordan to allow Palestinians to be mass deported (or ethnically cleansed) by Israel into those two nations.
-Tried to strong-arm Denmark into giving up Greenland to the USA, as part of America’s strategic competition against Russia over the Arctic.
-Attempted to pressure OPEC into decreasing the price of oil so as to weaken Russia and compel it to agree to a so-called Ukraine Peace plan, which in reality is just a version of the Minsk Accord scam (i.e. a frozen conflict that will allow Ukraine to escape total defeat and remilitarize over time).
-Imposed tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China as part of Trump’s trade wars.
-Convinced (or threatened) Panama into reneging on the 2017 Belt and Road Initiative agreement that it signed with China. This was announced by Panama ruler José Raúl Mulino right after a visit from supposed Mr. Multipolar himself, Marco Rubio.
These examples of American behavior–and more–are the very opposite of “multipolarity.”
In typically Machiavellian American fashion, Rubio is attempting disguise America’s aggressive drive for unipolar dominance with insincere multipolar rhetoric.
The USA is putting multipolar lipstick over the same unipolar American pig.
As Vladimir Putin has stated, America is the Empire of Lies.
Never forget this.
Deception and deceit are core American values.

Posted by: ak74 | Feb 3 2025 8:48 utc | 208

Here is another major example of America’s newly discovered (fake) embrace of multipolarity:
-Trump threatened to impose tariffs on BRICS nations who pursue DeDollarization and (horror) use their own currencies in bilateral trade among themselves.
Trump issues new threat to BRICS
https://www.rt.com/business/611957-trump-brics-tariffs-dollar/

Posted by: ak74 | Feb 3 2025 8:54 utc | 209

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 2 2025 16:32 utc | 174
You are parroting uniformed bullshit spread by Matthew Ehret, in turn parroted from uninformed bullshit spread by Webster Tarpley, in turn a onetime associate of Lyndon LaRouche. Check better sources.

Posted by: Alberto | Feb 3 2025 9:29 utc | 210

Stop spreading falsities about Panama.
“Following his meeting with Rubio, Mulino reaffirmed that Panama’s sovereignty over the canal was not up for debate. His government has also ordered an audit of CK Hutchinson Holdings to confirm that the company remains in compliance with its concession agreements, a move likely aimed at addressing concerns about alleged Chinese influence.
However, the Trump administration’s pressure campaign does not appear limited to canal operations. Mulino stated that while he would not discuss canal sovereignty, he was open to assisting the US with migrant repatriation efforts—but only if the US paid for it”.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-threatens-panama-over-alleged–china-influence–in-canal

Posted by: JB | Feb 3 2025 9:38 utc | 211

Panama, more:
According to president Mulino, it is up to the authorities of the Panama Canal, due to the autonomy they have by constitutional mandate, and not to his government, “to clarify all doubts” that the Trump Administration has about the management of the waterway.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/president-mulino-says-panamas-sovereignty-is-not-in-question-after-meeting-with-rubio/

Posted by: JB | Feb 3 2025 10:05 utc | 212

Something weird about Jeffrey Sachs and Tucker pushing for Gabbard… as is super gay serial killer ‘to the last ukropian’ Lindsay. Or are they trying to tar her with their praise?
Something does not compute !
she may be the secret mole in the WH Circus …
Careful now – some well tricky double triple quadruple games going on.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 3 2025 12:05 utc | 213

ak74 | Feb 3 2025 8:54 utc | 211
*** Trump threatened to impose tariffs on BRICS nations who pursue DeDollarization and (horror) use their own currencies in bilateral trade among themselves.***
Mafia state (USA) runs ‘protection’ racket (enforced by NATO and the institutions of usury) to impose a tax on the entire world?

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 3 2025 16:39 utc | 214