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February 16, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-034
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Rubio is avoiding Egypt and Jordan during his 6-days visit. Briefed by Netanyahoo, their focus is on the Islamic Republic of Iran. However, this seems quite ironic to say the least. The US of A along the IOF have been fighting in Gaza for the last 15-long months. Yet Hamas has not been defeated and remain the strong dominant party in historical Palestine. In fact, you can see Hamas every week as they released captives in a big show of force, which drives the right wing in Israel crazy. The resistance group say after all the fighting, the Israeli military could not achieve its goals. Posted by: pepe | Feb 16 2025 14:37 utc | 1 I read somewhere the other day that Nutty is going to go ahead & attack Iran. Posted by: Mary | Feb 16 2025 15:29 utc | 2 It is nice to see that hamas hasn’t been broken by 15 months of genocidal assault. Posted by: Northern Savage | Feb 16 2025 15:35 utc | 3 @ Mary | Feb 16 2025 15:29 utc Posted by: necromancer | Feb 16 2025 15:42 utc | 4 If IDF use Saudi airspace, do the Houthi attack Saudi Aramco and crash the world economies???? Posted by: Mary | Feb 16 2025 15:54 utc | 5 Released Mk84 2000lb arrive Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 15:55 utc | 6 I assume that if Nutty is nutty enough to attack Iran, he would need bunker busters to penetrate the ground and then the concrete that protects underground nuclear facilities. The Russians have not gone nutty and are not making hazelnuts available to the marketplace. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 16 2025 15:56 utc | 7 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 15:58 utc | 8 Mary@1529 Feb16 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 16 2025 16:19 utc | 9 “I saw similar. Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 16 2025 16:41 utc | 10 Posted by: Mary | Feb 16 2025 15:54 utc | 5 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 16 2025 16:46 utc | 11 @3 Northern Savage Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 16:54 utc | 12 Morocco signs an arms deal with Israeli Elbit Systems. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-841321 Posted by: jungleserpent | Feb 16 2025 17:07 utc | 13 Is it possible that these 2000lb bombs are more likely for a renewed assault on Hezbollah positions in southern Lebanon? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 16 2025 17:11 utc | 14 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 16 2025 16:19 utc | 9 Posted by: Mary | Feb 16 2025 17:12 utc | 15 “WRSA-I Explained Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 17:42 utc | 17 Netanyahu is portrayed as having lost in Gaza and in Lebanon, with Israel’s accession to South Lebanon occuring as a result of the ceasefire which Hezbollah has honored and USIS has not. The MOAB’s represent Israel’s attempt to “win” in these venues. In US parlance – “shock and awe”. Hopefully, the destruction and devestation will by brute force, coerce submission of the remainder of West Asia countries who are refusing to align with Israel goals re Trump/US Gaza take over, genocide/eviction of Palestinians in Gaza/West Bank with elimination of Hamas/Hezbollah as an added bonus. Also, coerce acceptance of expansion of Israel territory into Lebanon and Syria. Pushing the Abraham accords at the point of a MOAB. Also, consider extension to Yemen which has and does pose very real threats to Israel. Posted by: abierno | Feb 16 2025 18:20 utc | 18 While Ukraine garners the attention ahead of the upcoming US-Russia meeting, the event is happening in Saudi Arabia, MBS is included in the discussions, and the Russian read-outs mention regional (i.e. Mid-east) matters as part of the agenda. Posted by: jayc | Feb 16 2025 18:36 utc | 19 CrossTalk: Owning Genocide Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 16 2025 18:41 utc | 20 Also, reports that Israel is sending negotiating team to Cairo for talks on 2nd phase of Gaza ceasefire – as instructed by US envoy Witkoff. Posted by: jayc | Feb 16 2025 19:13 utc | 21 Ornot@1742 Feb16 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 16 2025 19:36 utc | 22 Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 17:42 utc | 17 Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 16 2025 20:38 utc | 23 https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1890785767028392402 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 16 2025 20:39 utc | 24 https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/15651 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 16 2025 20:52 utc | 25 Israel is threatening to murder 10.7 million Egyptians by destroying their dam. Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 16 2025 21:09 utc | 26 Yahoo has threatened to destroy Iran’s nuclear sites. It is another war crime. Iran should increase its missiles arsenal particularly ones carrying cluster munitions. Iron Dome intercepts missiles over Israel. Cluster munitions can scatter before that to cause widespread damage though not targeted. Iran should also use missiles to scatter radiation waste over Israel if its nuclear sites are attacked. Posted by: Jason | Feb 16 2025 21:15 utc | 27 Mary@15…..two B 52s are headed to Europe atm, may even be there by now. If I remember 2 were already there. The US had many KC 135s up over the Atlantic all the way to the ME. That’s indicitive of Jet fighters mid air refueling enroute to the ME. The pieces are in place. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 16 2025 21:18 utc | 28 https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/1891075542025166877 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 16 2025 21:34 utc | 29 You must paid for all the people. Posted by: ComeOn | Feb 16 2025 21:45 utc | 30 You think that you are better than me. Posted by: ComeOn | Feb 16 2025 21:56 utc | 31 We are doing the integration of the childs and all the family. All the childs who are born are integrated in the culture of theirs and ours. Posted by: ComeOn | Feb 16 2025 22:48 utc | 32 @22 aristo Posted by: Ornot | Feb 16 2025 23:11 utc | 33 “Ahmed Shaqoura lost more than 60 kilos of his weight. Anyone who knew the creative designer and programmer before his arrest would think that he was sitting with someone else, not only because of the sharp change in his appearance and looks that tell of the amount of deprivation, torture and oppression he experienced in Ofer prison for 15 months, but also because of the high spirit and unparalleled strength he shows: “They tortured us with all kinds of torture, and we no longer fear them” said Abu Al-Hassan, who remained confident of imminent relief since the first moment of his arrest. He came out of his prison with his head held high, rising above the torture, to the point that we were ashamed to tell of the torture we experienced during the war.” Posted by: Ornot | Feb 17 2025 0:02 utc | 34 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 0:30 utc | 35 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 0:32 utc | 36 sarah Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 0:33 utc | 37 sarah Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 0:35 utc | 38 Ornot 33 Posted by: jayc | Feb 17 2025 0:57 utc | 39 abierno 18 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 1:11 utc | 40 We must control it and harness it, and never allow Posted by: Antiwar7 | Feb 17 2025 1:12 utc | 41 How many MOABs would Iran have to hit in this Israeli depot to knock out Bibistan for another two Millennia? This is getting boring. Zapped in 600 BC. Zapped in 73 AD. Zapped again in 600 AD . Zapped again in the Middle Ages. Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 1:44 utc | 42 Northern Savage Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 2:09 utc | 43 @39 jayc “One bottom line – Israel’s administrative control over Gaza and West Bank must be removed (this will likely be traded for existing settlements), and Israel must accept legal borders.” Posted by: Ornot | Feb 17 2025 2:19 utc | 44 UPDATES: Israel, US Share ‘Common Strategy’ on Gaza Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 17 2025 3:15 utc | 45 UAE’s Secret Role in Arab League To Advance Trump’s Plan For Gaza Displacement Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 17 2025 3:27 utc | 46 ZH has a posting up about Rubios’s meeting with Netanyahu
Part of me wants to see this attempt to attack Iran go forward so we see more serious pushback from the axis of resistance to end the aggression. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 17 2025 3:41 utc | 47 Some of Judge Nap guests said a few weeks ago that one of the secret clauses in the so-called ceasefire agreement is to allow Pegasus be deployed on US devices and servers. This would mean that most of the planet would be spied on by USIS, even more than now. Posted by: Tom | Feb 17 2025 3:45 utc | 48 https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/02/17/i-write-about-israel-all-the-time-because-i-have-to-not-because-i-want-to/ Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 17 2025 4:32 utc | 49 This would mean that most of the planet would be spied on by USIS, even more than now. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 4:49 utc | 50 John Gilberts 45 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 6:00 utc | 51 Marco Rubio visits Israel. Posted by: ak74 | Feb 17 2025 6:12 utc | 52 Hezbollah gives an ultimatum for the IOF to leave Lebanon by 18 February 2025:
(Source: https://youtu.be/QReU_zkBljQ?si=Gq_pnyXyvpGvuEod) Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 7:00 utc | 54 Muhammad Dahlan , mentioned in your link as UAE ‘s special advisor on Palestine is Netanyahu’s right hand man, in production of weaponry for Israel in Serbia. Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:01 utc | 55 ‘Death to the Arabs’ in Miami Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 17 2025 7:17 utc | 56 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 7:00 utc | 54 Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:17 utc | 57 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:29 utc | 58 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:29 utc | 59 Kashif Chaudhry Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:31 utc | 60 Fake News? Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:34 utc | 61 HOT SPOT Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 7:37 utc | 62 A day and a half or the fireworks begin. Interesting to see how the orange one reacts. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 7:53 utc | 63 “Jerry Seinfeld: ‘I don’t care about Palestinians’. What do you think of Seinfeld’s response?” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 7:55 utc | 64 Seyed Mohammad Marandi Posted by: Menz | Feb 17 2025 8:11 utc | 66 Israeli Finance Minister Says He Hopes The Displacement Of Gazans Can Be Started Within ‘Weeks’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 17 2025 8:13 utc | 67 11 MOABs
Here’s the Wikipedia link to the 2017 Nangarhar airstrike in Afghanistan (Trump was president but plan started under Obama, both can be irrelevant) when the MOAB was first used in combat.
The tunnels that was targeted by MOABs in Afghanistan seem like they were not that deep or advanced. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2025 8:25 utc | 68 Forgot to add: Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2025 8:29 utc | 69 English News at almayadeen news/politics/african-union-summit-denounces-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-g Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 17 2025 8:41 utc | 70 Also a thank you both to Mary and to necromancer for making me aware of the Dialogue Works video 🙂 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2025 9:04 utc | 71 Three weeks of fake ‘ceasefire’. Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 17 2025 10:16 utc | 72 Ps has no one including b, posted Craig Murray’s great interview with UNFIL director ? Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 17 2025 10:30 utc | 73 One more … Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 17 2025 11:06 utc | 74 Israel won’t allow establishment of Palestinian state Posted by: JB | Feb 17 2025 12:00 utc | 75 The top defense official added that “[US President Donald] Trump’s [Gaza] plan is the only one that can guarantee the insecurity of Israel’s residents after the events of October 7 [2023]. Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 12:53 utc | 76 Talks about the rapid collapse Assad Iranian allies. And how the Russians are better liked than Iran at the moment in Syria. Posted by: Ed4 | Feb 17 2025 13:00 utc | 77 How is this not evil? Has all humanity been sucked out of Israelis?
Posted by: Georgie | Feb 17 2025 13:05 utc | 78 Posted by: Ed4 | Feb 17 2025 13:00 utc | 76 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 13:38 utc | 79 That would likely be suicide over Iran but much easier over Gaza. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 13:40 utc | 80 I’m fed up with people calling the Jews antisemites because the Arabs are also semites from Abraham AS. Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 13:53 utc | 81 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 13:40 utc | 80 Posted by: john | Feb 17 2025 14:02 utc | 82 Or perhaps, more specifically, the tunnels under the rubble of Gaza? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 14:15 utc | 83 John 82 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 17 2025 14:15 utc | 84 I’m fed up with people calling the Jews antisemites because the Arabs are also semites from Abraham AS. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 14:17 utc | 85 ….. BREAKING: Mordechai Brafman, 28, a pro-Israel fanatic, fired 17 shots at a father and son in Miami Beach, injuring both. Believing he had killed them, he smiled and told police, “I killed two Palestinians.”…… Posted by: Exile | Feb 17 2025 14:34 utc | 86 Mordechai Brafman, 28, a pro-Israel fanatic, fired 17 shots at a father and son in Miami Beach, injuring both. Believing he had killed them, he smiled and told police, “I killed two Palestinians.”…… Posted by: chakakhagan | Feb 17 2025 14:42 utc | 87 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 14:15 utc | 83 Posted by: john | Feb 17 2025 14:54 utc | 88 Turned out that the victims were fellow Jews. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 15:01 utc | 89 but in a world where it’s the wishful thinking of psychopaths in power, well, I guess anything’s possible. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 15:06 utc | 90 Caitlin, on the origin of fresh white-hot hatred of Jews:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 17 2025 15:14 utc | 91 “… He [Trump] seems to understands that these Nihilist Neocon Mafia mentalities are Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2025 15:41 utc | 92 The Orange Yankee POTUS and Zionist – allows heavy bombs to be delivered to the evil Zio-Nazi regime. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 17 2025 16:16 utc | 93 The Zio-Nazi’s are building more illegal apartments in the West Bank. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 17 2025 16:18 utc | 94 Note that Egypt/Israel relations are heating up: Israel military news source “Nizf” has a report on ai modeling of Israel bombing the Aswan dam, with predictions of one to ten million killed. Egypt Independent as well New Arab have the story. Comments? Posted by: abierno | Feb 17 2025 16:23 utc | 95 It appears that its becoming illegal in Germany to speak out against the Zio-Nazi’s and their genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 17 2025 16:26 utc | 96 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 17 2025 15:06 utc | 90 Posted by: john | Feb 17 2025 16:50 utc | 97
Please show your work/proof to convince us as; Posted by: saner | Feb 17 2025 17:04 utc | 98 If its Morocco there will be many Palestinians who will choose relocation. Will Hamas stop them? Once the token relocations are undertaken Gaza can proceed.. Its been the theme from the beginning. Go here. Go there. We dropped leaflets. They didnt go. Their choice so oh well. No one is going to cough up housing $ for the 1.8 million Palestinians left. Maybe 10,000 will be preserved in the (Morocan?) reserve. Palireserve 1.0 is why the cease fire is occurring. A nice movie set where Palestinians will be filmed happily living in their new housing. IDF pulls back Hamas plays rough. Why do you think the food entering Gaza is all low calorie? Why do you think hamas noticed the food entering was all canned fruit and vegetables not storable grains? Even the Viet Cong had to have a ball of rice every day. Gaza is rather in the worlds view right now. While the Palireserve 1.0 movie set is bought plenty to do in west bank. The MOABs can only be deployed from slow heavy lifter aircraft. Not anywhere there is AD. Their weight alone creates payload constraints for deployment in Iran. Really I think those MOABs are destined for new Israel north not south. New Israel south is totally sealed off. The food entering will get halfed then halfed again then halfed again. First the “beautiful beautiful” Palireserve 1.0 movie set must be created. Posted by: Food | Feb 17 2025 17:13 utc | 99 Posted by: saner | Feb 17 2025 17:04 utc | 98 Posted by: john | Feb 17 2025 17:26 utc | 100 |
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