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February 13, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-031
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Egypt has a Camp David peace agreement with Israel. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1 @ LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1 with the report of the geopolitical hardballs being thrown about…thx Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 17:22 utc | 2 Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 17:22 utc | 2 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:30 utc | 3 LoveDonbass@1…..I’m sure the Apartheid State has contingency plans to blow up Egyptian hospitals and daycares, if the Resistance and Iran and the Houthis and the Syrians can’t reel the Genocidal fuckers in, bring them to heal, Egypt will? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 18:37 utc | 5 Nearly 2/3s of Americans against forced expulsion & US takeover of Palestine. Posted by: Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6 Despite multiple ceasefire agreements in the region, the Zionists continue dismantling the West Bank and destroying south Lebanon. Posted by: pepe | Feb 13 2025 19:15 utc | 7 As we can see by the dismantling of USAID, Trump isn’t dumb. I can’t see him wanting to go through thid because he must know a Middle East War would destroy his Presidency and Legacy. My guess is either he is bluffing or he is fully captured by the Zionists. Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 13 2025 19:20 utc | 8 ZH has a posting up with the title
More hardball geopolitics above my pay grade…..just this week UAE called for two state solution…. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 19:31 utc | 9 https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1890100467113304345 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10 Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 19:31 utc | 9 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 19:57 utc | 11 Trump and Putin have the same priority and interest regarding the Palestine question – the preservation of Israel. Posted by: JB | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 12 https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1889840592932470830 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 13 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 20:00 utc | 14 psychohistorian@9…..the UAE can’t be serious, they really want to give Trump his own state? Trumplestine? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 20:11 utc | 15 The UAE is the best ally of Israhell in Sudan and it still occupies Socotra to keep an eye with the same entity. It was also coordinating with them during the nato US war on Syria. Posted by: Tom | Feb 13 2025 20:16 utc | 16 There has been a huge stink in te Australian media and government on two nurses of ME descent who supposedly, on an Israeli influencer’s TikTok, threatened not to treat and kill Israelis patients. Posted by: Menz | Feb 13 2025 20:28 utc | 17 Media story on the above: Posted by: Menz | Feb 13 2025 20:29 utc | 18 With the current world situation, one can begin to trace the outline of the importance of BRICS, SCO, BRICS Development Bank. For countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the organizational support for managing geopolitical pressure (tacit/and more probably than not considerable sotto voce communication). Interesting that US and affiliates do not appear to carefully study opposing perspectives, anticipating communication/responses. Would anticipate Russian responses conditioned by Islamic as well as Jewish interests given that Russia has a considerable population of Muslims as well as Jews; also affiliations through BRICS and many other formal, informal land treaty affiliations. Putin and Larov both have considerable expertise in walking through geopolitical fields packed with mines and IED’s. Will be interesting to observe the ongoing evolution of many pressing geopolitical issues. Posted by: abierno | Feb 13 2025 20:34 utc | 19
Yeah. They have ‘agreed’ to lots of things. But how many agreements have they actually fully honoured? Posted by: saner | Feb 13 2025 20:37 utc | 20 Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them. Posted by: stranger | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 21 Posted by: Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6 Posted by: Chas | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 22 @ Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6 Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 21:22 utc | 23 Imagine a Liberia-like enclave with the capital Trumpovia. Posted by: BillB | Feb 13 2025 22:02 utc | 24
They aren’t opposing the genocide of Palestinians, they’re opposing Trump. Look at the breakdown of the percentages, it’s mostly Democrats. Where was all that anti-genocide fervor from Democrats when Biden was in charge? And all those Trump cultists who were very vocal about genocide during Biden’s administration? Ethnic cleansing – Trump’s proposal to relocate Gazans with no right to return – is now suddenly a very defensible idea or some esoteric 4D chess move by Trump. The Palestinian issue is just a political football for Americans. It’s a feud between the two liberal factions of America, the Dems and the GOP.
The responsibility lies entirely on the Western world for perpetrating the genocide, most notably through overt support via arms and money transfer. The US has provided political cover as well, vetoing one Gaza ceasefire after another. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Feb 13 2025 22:41 utc | 25 All Under Heaven@25….any idea what percentage of squatters from Russia are living on stolen Palestinian land…what percentage of the Apartheid State population is dual citizen with Russia…..what percentage of IDF baby killers are of ethnic Russian decent. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 23:06 utc | 26 Too funny: Angel of Death, damn you auto correct….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 23:08 utc | 27 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:12 utc | 28 @8 Deniz Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:15 utc | 29 In the meantime, in the lesser camp of West Bank where “business is sanctioned by US to continue in exchange for ceasefire”: Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:16 utc | 30 A little more info I have gleaned, Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:24 utc | 31 Edit: As Trump is driving people towards BRICS, he is also bringing the Ummah (Muslims as a global nation) together. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:25 utc | 32 It is 15 million liters of fuel that Qatar is sending. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 33 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1 Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34 Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 21:22 utc | 23 Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:36 utc | 35 Sean @ 26: Posted by: Jane | Feb 13 2025 23:38 utc | 36 President Donald Trump has received his first major slap in the face and setback at the hands of the Palestinian resistance, as his aggressive ultimatums failed to break their resolve. Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu was left with no choice but to yield, effectively kneeling before the unwavering determination of the resistance. This moment not only exposes the limits of Israeli power in Gaza but also sends a clear message that the resistance remains unbroken, capable of dictating conditions even in the face of overwhelming external pressure. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 13 2025 23:39 utc | 37 @ juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:36 utc | 35 Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38 Here is the link I promised above: Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:46 utc | 39 Iran and Oman are doing joint drills to shut down the Hormuz Straight. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:48 utc | 40 Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:58 utc | 41 Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38 Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:59 utc | 42 I will just add to my comment above that the system in which we operate, or rather in which politicians operate is, I will agree, totally skewed at present towards oligarchal control BUT it used to be said that money isn’t speech, and that is what we should continue to hold, shouldn’t we? I believe that Trump is indicating by his actions that while he appreciates the help he is getting, he doesn’t feel obliged to follow what one might suppose are the desires of those supporting him. Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 0:12 utc | 43 “President Donald Trump has received his first major slap in the face and setback at the hands of the Palestinian resistance, as his aggressive ultimatums failed to break their resolve. ” Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 0:17 utc | 44 Jane@36….I have a family friend, jewish, his dad pulled him from Jewish Private School and sent him to a Christian Private School. His father didn’t like how obnoxious he was becoming. He told us once that Rabbis have two sermons each week. One for the congregation if only church members are present, and a plan B sermon in the event outsiders were at the service….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 14 2025 0:19 utc | 45 Thanks james! I enjoyed that chance to be a bit paradoxical myself. Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 0:25 utc | 46 @ juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:59 utc | 42 43/ 46 Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 0:28 utc | 47 I love how ‘alarmed’ the MSM is over Trump appeasing Putin but have nothing to say about Trump meeting Netanyahu’s demands. Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Feb 14 2025 0:42 utc | 48 @ james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38 with the rant…thx Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:58 utc | 41 Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 1:05 utc | 50 from Middle East Eye: Posted by: jayc | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 51 RE: “Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 52 BBC World News America just reported something like “a missle was released toward Israel from Gaza, but outside Gaza,” or something like that. He spoke it very quickly at the end of his report on the ceasefire, and I didn’t quite get it, but he seemed to suggest a mysterious occurrence to worry about. Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 1:05 utc | 50 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:12 utc | 54 Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 52 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:12 utc | 55 Street protests in Lebanon right now after the government (on Israeli orders) turned away an airplane of returning Lebanese citizens. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:34 utc | 56 @ psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49 Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 1:52 utc | 57 Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49 Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 2:26 utc | 58 Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 0:28 utc | 47 Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 2:41 utc | 59 Some retired senior Occupation leaders have been publicly criticizing Bibi while the street protests continue to grow. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 2:56 utc | 60 YouTuber Janta Ka reported an extraordinary and possibly deeply significant announcement by the U.S. spokesperson Karoline Leavitt. Leaving it to the very end of the press conference (allowing swift escape avoiding any questions) and even calling it a “housekeeping” issue, she essentially let it be known that the outcome of Trump’s meeting with King Abdullah of Jordan was the opposite of what had been understood. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Feb 14 2025 3:23 utc | 61 Khomeini is on the ball about both. Realizes they’re both snakes in the grass. Posted by: bones | Feb 14 2025 4:14 utc | 62 Lockheed Martin’s stock price went from $611 just before Trump was elected to $434 as it continues to plummet this week, that’s a 28% drop in 6 months. I haven’t seen any evidence that the military is mobilizing this week. The Gaza Condo plan is a Trump negotiating tactic. Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 14 2025 4:16 utc | 63 Jane about rightisation Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:03 utc | 64 The world is sliding into fascism as the US puts sanctions on UN officials, Germany forbids Albanese to talk, and ALL the Western govs dont make a peep about it. Who needs Epstein when you control the WWW? Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:20 utc | 65 Macron is the new Tony Blair Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:24 utc | 66 Israel has been using big events elsewhere in the world – such as downing of MH-17 – events which capture the world attention and especially western media attention, to start bombing and attacking Palestinians. Posted by: fanto | Feb 14 2025 5:32 utc | 67 61 Andrew Sarchis –“Something strangely momentous happened behind the scenes. Something that brought about an abrupt about turn in Trump’s Gaza policy.” Resisting the New McCarthyism in Canada Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 6:51 utc | 69 Bibis gift of a golden pager to Trump was straight out of Compton. Trump says he has left instructions to destroy Iran if he is assassinated. One wonders what those instructions really are. No discussion of the golden pager by Napolitano or Nima. If it was discussed they might get golden pagers too. Everyone gets a “Apollo gold” pager now. Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 8:08 utc | 70 The world is sliding into fascism as the US puts sanctions on UN officials, Germany forbids Albanese to talk, and ALL the Western govs dont make a peep about it. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 14 2025 8:35 utc | 71 Deniz 152 ( Feb 13 2025 19:20 utc | 8 ) wrote:
Maybe also “both bluffing and captured by zionists”, or “neither bluffing nor captured by zionists” 🙂 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 14 2025 9:03 utc | 72 With the current world situation, one can begin to trace the outline of the importance of BRICS, SCO, BRICS Development Bank. For countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the organizational support for managing geopolitical pressure (tacit/and more probably than not considerable sotto voce communication). Interesting that US and affiliates do not appear to carefully study opposing perspectives, anticipating communication/responses. Would anticipate Russian responses conditioned by Islamic as well as Jewish interests given that Russia has a considerable population of Muslims as well as Jews; also affiliations through BRICS and many other formal, informal land treaty affiliations. Putin and Larov both have considerable expertise in walking through geopolitical fields packed with mines and IED’s. Will be interesting to observe the ongoing evolution of many pressing geopolitical issues. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 9:39 utc | 73 Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34 Posted by: DaVinci | Feb 14 2025 9:42 utc | 74 Right now the Palestinians could throw one of the biggest curveballs in history.. Suppose they approached Trump with a share of Gaza (beach for sale) and some reconstruction contracts. Hamas could credibly assure no terror in exchange for relative peace. Once US investment is on the ground, arms deliveries to Israel magically cease and Trump won. If they play it smart that bug is in his ear before AIPAC can intervene and it happens while Trump is pissed off at Netanyahu. Posted by: SOS | Feb 14 2025 9:53 utc | 75 With the Libtards in charge never before in recent history did Russia and China and BRICS in general have the West so much on the run. Never before did Israel look so weak. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:02 utc | 76 EI Podcast: Day 26 – Gaza Ceasefire [*Must Watch*] Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 10:07 utc | 77 Thread: Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 10:21 utc | 78 Mark my words, I am going to make a prediction. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:28 utc | 79 Spheres of influence. Is an authoritarian world view. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:56 utc | 80 Sunny has just become the leader, surpassing vargas with his 12th, “The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today Award”, with this witless offering. “The way things look to me is that on the ground, Hamas and Trump are actually on the same side. Hamas, by not caving in to Net and insisting on keeping to the terms of the ceasefire, is actually putting more meat on Trump’s ceasefire. “Erdogan is agitating that Israel should bear 100% of the reconstruction costs, which means America would be paying the bill since Israel is a welfare state with a wrecked economy.” James 38 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 14 2025 11:36 utc | 84 Equating Russia, which is a another victim of US imperialism via the proxy Ukraine conflict, with the US is an attempt to whitewash American crimes. Posted by: JB | Feb 14 2025 11:47 utc | 85 Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 8:08 utc | 70 Posted by: pepe | Feb 14 2025 11:53 utc | 86 Okay, these are off-topic, but they are just so funny….USA, USA, we’re number one!!!! Posted by: teri | Feb 14 2025 13:39 utc | 87 JB Posted by: Giyane | Feb 14 2025 14:28 utc | 88 Anyone know if Trump plans to pardon the guy who displayed the Palestinian flag at the Super Bowl? No? Deported to Palestine? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 14 2025 14:50 utc | 89 Bibis gift of a golden pager to Trump was straight out of Compton. . . . Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 15:57 utc | 90 https://youtu.be/KVODzpKFvJs?si=AV95-njrxZ56D8Xr Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:01 utc | 91 Posted by: SOS | Feb 14 2025 9:53 utc | 75 Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:05 utc | 92 Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 15:57 utc | 90 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 16:18 utc | 93 SOS and Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:19 utc | 94
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 17:23 utc | 95 “I don’t know what Compton is, but to me the golden pager looks kind of like the horse’s head in The Godfather. Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 18:04 utc | 96 https://x.com/arslanu2/status/1889764105428541929 Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 14 2025 18:33 utc | 97 Larry C Johnson Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 18:51 utc | 98 Transferring a parcel of in Gaza via a legally drawn-up deed would also put meat on the idea that Palestinian Rights Are Property Rights. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 19:57 utc | 99 David Hearst (Middle East Eye): “I have become optimistic about an solution for Gaza for the 1st time in 15 months”. Hearst considers this to be the first step towards an end of the palestinian conflict. Posted by: WMG | Feb 14 2025 19:59 utc | 100 |
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