Palestine Open Thread 2025-031
News & views related to the war in Palestine ...
Posted by b on February 13, 2025 at 15:51 UTC | Permalink
next page »@ LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1 with the report of the geopolitical hardballs being thrown about...thx
Is Trump really positioning for a big picture reality based approach to the ME like Ukraine or is he trying to bully his side [private finance] into a geopolitical stalemate for now?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 17:22 utc | 2
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 17:22 utc | 2
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What I find heartening is that the Arabs are openly, if softly, defying Trump.
Donald is not bloodthirsty or foolish. Will he f around and find out on Saturday?
I think Bibi and his psychopath pals may try to force Trump's hand. They have already started bombing tents again.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:30 utc | 3
[email protected]'m sure the Apartheid State has contingency plans to blow up Egyptian hospitals and daycares, if the Resistance and Iran and the Houthis and the Syrians can't reel the Genocidal fuckers in, bring them to heal, Egypt will?
Cheers M
....history is littered with examples of entire populations being moved, slaughtered, exterminated...to see it happen in the now.....when there was time and opportunity to strike when the iron was hot, to right some of the wrong.....
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 18:37 utc | 5
Nearly 2/3s of Americans against forced expulsion & US takeover of Palestine.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/02/13/742723/American-voters-Donald-Trump-expel-Palestinians-take-over-Gaza-Strip-
News / Palestine / Human Rights / Editor's Choice
Most Americans oppose Trump's plot to ‘take over’ Gaza: Poll
Thursday, 13 February 2025 9:04 AM [ Last Update: Thursday, 13 February 2025 9:33 AM ]
A man gestures as Palestinians search for casualties a day after Israeli strikes on houses in the Jabalia refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, on November 1, 2023. (Photo by Reuters)
A strong majority of American voters have expressed heir opposition to US President Donald Trump’s highly contentious plan to forcibly expel Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and “take over” the besieged territory, a new opinion poll shows.
In a survey released on Wednesday, Data for Progress found that 64 percent of US voters say they oppose Trump’s proposal, while only 27 percent support it, a margin of 37 points.
Nearly half of the survey’s 1,201 respondents, accounting for 47 percent, also said they “strongly” are against the plan.
Data for Progress found that opposition was strongest among Democrats, with 85 percent disapproving of the proposal, including 78 percent “strongly” in opposition.
A plurality of independents, 63 percent, disagreed to Trump’s plan for Gaza, while Republicans favored the proposal by a small margin, with 46 percent supporting and 43 percent opposing.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6
Despite multiple ceasefire agreements in the region, the Zionists continue dismantling the West Bank and destroying south Lebanon.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 13 2025 19:15 utc | 7
As we can see by the dismantling of USAID, Trump isn’t dumb. I can’t see him wanting to go through thid because he must know a Middle East War would destroy his Presidency and Legacy. My guess is either he is bluffing or he is fully captured by the Zionists.
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 13 2025 19:20 utc | 8
ZH has a posting up with the title
UAE Ambassador Says Arab World Has 'No Alternative' To Trump's Gaza Plan
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In an extraordinarily surprising development, the United Arab Emirates (UAE has signaled the possibility of removing all Palestinians from Gaza, in accordance with Trump's controversial Gaza plan.UAE Ambassador to the US Yousef Al Otaiba in a fresh interview called the plan "difficult but inevitable" and said he's sees "no alternative" but Trump's plan to expel Gaza's population and undertake massive economic redevelopment of the Strip. He had been asked by a reporter whether the UAE is working on a separate plan, to which he responded no, there's no other plan.
More hardball geopolitics above my pay grade.....just this week UAE called for two state solution....
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 19:31 utc | 9
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1890100467113304345
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Breaking news:
The plan is back in business.
Israel has backed down and agreed to allow the entry of prefabricated homes, bulldozers, and other essential equipment and supplies as stipulated in the humanitarian protocol of phase one of the ceasefire agreement. This marks a significant victory for the Palestinian resistance, demonstrating their ability to force concessions from both Israel and the United States.
President Donald Trump has received his first major slap in the face and setback at the hands of the Palestinian resistance, as his aggressive ultimatums failed to break their resolve. Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu was left with no choice but to yield, effectively kneeling before the unwavering determination of the resistance. This moment not only exposes the limits of Israeli power in Gaza but also sends a clear message that the resistance remains unbroken, capable of dictating conditions even in the face of overwhelming external pressure.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2025 19:31 utc | 9
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Arab politics is infinitely complex. It was truly a miracle that the Prophet (SAW) was able to unite them during his lifetime.
North African and West Asian "countries" are governed by complex patchworks of ancient tribes, which are motivated by bad blood and resentments from previous generations.
The UAE isn't strong enough to be of any real weight in negotiations with Trump.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 19:57 utc | 11
Trump and Putin have the same priority and interest regarding the Palestine question - the preservation of Israel.
Israel is absolutely safe with these two powers. The US and Russia will work to ensure just one thing - that there is the state of Israel.
A Palestinian state - that's nice talk. A Palestinian state is not gong to be established through any kind of diplomacy in the current world (dis)order.
The Palestinians and their faithful brothers-in-arms can't win their state in a fight against the US and Russia.
A Palestinian state on the territory of historic Palestine, the only right, just and fair outcome founded in law not its perversion, requires an honest and radically different approach to the Question of Palestine than the one contained in UN decisions that have led to almost 80 years of Palestinian suffering, their persecution and now genocide.
Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them.
Posted by: JB | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 12
https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1889840592932470830
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
Trump is going for broke in ripping apart the international legal order to protect Washington's ultimate client state, Israel.
Could there be a better advert for non-western states quickening the pace of change, ditching the dollar and beefing up BRICS.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1889738625488753043
Globe Eye News @GlobeEyeNews
BREAKING:
South Africa says that despite Trump's threats, it will not withdraw from the genocide case against Israel
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1889790976249442495
Megatron @Megatron_ron
JUST IN:
🇿🇦🇺🇲 South African Minister of Justice says that despite Trump's threats, South Africa will NOT withdraw from the genocide case against Israel.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/iof-to-maintain-long-term-presence-in-syria-backed-by-trump
IOF to maintain long-term presence in Syria backed by Trump: JPost
The news website also cited sources as saying that the Israeli military is expected to remain in Jenin for several months beyond the conclusion of the current offensive in the area.
....The Israeli news website revealed that even if the EU and UN increase pressure on "Israel" to withdraw from Syrian territory in the coming months, the Israeli military is likely to remain in the "buffer zone" for an extended period as long as it retains backing from the Trump administration.....
.....While Trump has signaled a desire to disengage from Syria and withdraw remaining US forces there, The Jerusalem Post cited Israeli officials who believe this does not affect his continued support for "Israel’s" presence in the buffer zone.....
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 13
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10
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Elijah often posts good stuff but my childhood trauma makes me wary of triumphalist statements by anyone.
If the Zionist faction has made concessions, that is a signal of strength for the resistance, including China and Russia.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 20:00 utc | 14
[email protected] UAE can't be serious, they really want to give Trump his own state? Trumplestine?
Oy Vey!!!!
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 20:11 utc | 15
The UAE is the best ally of Israhell in Sudan and it still occupies Socotra to keep an eye with the same entity. It was also coordinating with them during the nato US war on Syria.
Posted by: Tom | Feb 13 2025 20:16 utc | 16
There has been a huge stink in te Australian media and government on two nurses of ME descent who supposedly, on an Israeli influencer's TikTok, threatened not to treat and kill Israelis patients.
A well respected ABC Australian journalist exposes this sham:
Stephen Long
@StephenLongAus
A cursory look at the TikTok account of the Israeli influencer who goaded the nurses into vile comments shows his whole schtick is to mock and bait people who are pro-Palestine. Media should dig a little deeper. I suspect the full exchange would tell a more nuanced story.
Stephen Long
@StephenLongAus
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8h
In one videos by the Israeli influencer who provoked such an awful response from the nurses, someone asks him why the Netanyahu government kills children in Palestine. He replies: “why do you clean your teeth?” (Is he implying “to cleanse”?)
https://x.com/StephenLongAus/status/1890011820255289547
Posted by: Menz | Feb 13 2025 20:28 utc | 17
With the current world situation, one can begin to trace the outline of the importance of BRICS, SCO, BRICS Development Bank. For countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the organizational support for managing geopolitical pressure (tacit/and more probably than not considerable sotto voce communication). Interesting that US and affiliates do not appear to carefully study opposing perspectives, anticipating communication/responses. Would anticipate Russian responses conditioned by Islamic as well as Jewish interests given that Russia has a considerable population of Muslims as well as Jews; also affiliations through BRICS and many other formal, informal land treaty affiliations. Putin and Larov both have considerable expertise in walking through geopolitical fields packed with mines and IED's. Will be interesting to observe the ongoing evolution of many pressing geopolitical issues.
Posted by: abierno | Feb 13 2025 20:34 utc | 19
Israel has backed down and agreed to...
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10
Yeah. They have 'agreed' to lots of things. But how many agreements have they actually fully honoured?
I can't think of even one.
This one will be no different IMO.
Posted by: saner | Feb 13 2025 20:37 utc | 20
Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them.
Posted by: JB | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 12
Both fighting for the slice of our world, some high rhetoric from both of them.Liars.-
Palestine is the lacmus of everything,the test of our humanity, one openly destroying, one shutting up about the crime. Both are the same, I now despise both the west and Russia regarding the genocide.
Both are complicit in the crime of the century. One armed and the other shut up as a bitch.
Posted by: stranger | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 21
Posted by: Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6
That's a very interesting poll. Sixty-four percent of USers are opposed to Trump's ethnic cleansing of Gaza plan while only 27 per cent favor it. I would have expected it to be the other way around. What this means is the Mighty Wurlitzer isn't working.
Disney and the rest of the US media must now go to work and rebuild the love and respect for Israel that was built by the Mighty Wurlitzer over the last 80 years. Looks like it's going to take a lot more than the new zionist Disney superhero Sabra.
Posted by: Chas | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 22
@ Mary | Feb 13 2025 18:54 utc | 6
thanks mary.. here is the original with more detail..
Voters Strongly Oppose Trump’s Plan to “Take Over” and “Own” Gaza
Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 21:22 utc | 23
Imagine a Liberia-like enclave with the capital Trumpovia.
A corrupt and miserable place, for sure.
Posted by: BillB | Feb 13 2025 22:02 utc | 24
That's a very interesting poll. Sixty-four percent of USers are opposed to Trump's ethnic cleansing of Gaza plan while only 27 per cent favor it. I would have expected it to be the other way around. What this means is the Mighty Wurlitzer isn't working.Posted by: Chas | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 22
They aren't opposing the genocide of Palestinians, they're opposing Trump. Look at the breakdown of the percentages, it's mostly Democrats. Where was all that anti-genocide fervor from Democrats when Biden was in charge? And all those Trump cultists who were very vocal about genocide during Biden's administration? Ethnic cleansing - Trump's proposal to relocate Gazans with no right to return - is now suddenly a very defensible idea or some esoteric 4D chess move by Trump. The Palestinian issue is just a political football for Americans. It's a feud between the two liberal factions of America, the Dems and the GOP.
Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them.Posted by: JB | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 12
Both are the same, I now despise both the west and Russia regarding the genocide.
Both are complicit in the crime of the century. One armed and the other shut up as a bitch.Posted by: stranger | Feb 13 2025 21:14 utc | 21
The responsibility lies entirely on the Western world for perpetrating the genocide, most notably through overt support via arms and money transfer. The US has provided political cover as well, vetoing one Gaza ceasefire after another.
Equating Russia, which is a another victim of US imperialism via the proxy Ukraine conflict, with the US is an attempt to whitewash American crimes. "See, see, they're just as bad as us!" Only Westeners and those in their employ regularly criticize Russia or neighboring Middle Eastern countries for not doing enough for Gazans. Everyone else knows how anti-imperialist nations' actions are constrained by having to also constantly be on the defense against attacks launched by the US against their own countries (coups, economic warfare etc).
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Feb 13 2025 22:41 utc | 25
All Under [email protected] idea what percentage of squatters from Russia are living on stolen Palestinian land...what percentage of the Apartheid State population is dual citizen with Russia.....what percentage of IDF baby killers are of ethnic Russian decent.
Back in the day, before appeasement and restraint, there was much talk of 100s of thousands of rockets, all hail the glorious rockets of all shapes and sizes, every part of the Resistance had them, announced their greatness, pictures of underground bunkers brimming with stock, stock to wipe the Genocidal Criminal Entity, the Apartheid State from the face of the Earth....a huge relief for Palestine and a gift to the rest of humanity......it never came to pass, a few nights of fire works, big words shot back and forth. Most of those big glorious weapons got blown up by the Daycare Bunker Buster Bombs supplied to the Apartheid Baby Killers by the USA, and really, when you think about it, kids really don't stand a chance against those things, like an Arch Angle of Death coming for all.
Cheers M
.....lots of blame to share on the Palestine mess, let's be inclusive.....
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 23:06 utc | 26
Too funny: Angel of Death, damn you auto correct.....
Cheers
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2025 23:08 utc | 27
Repeating the set of local Palestine links....
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:12 utc | 28
@8 Deniz
"My guess is either he is bluffing or he is fully captured by the Zionists."
It is something of both, plus the US will have its own dept. 'presenting' options to/on him.
There are only two cards "Israel" have available to present, return of prisoners and destruction of Hamas.
So the logic goes something like this:
The threat of excessive or total use of force is justified to decide in advance the option Hamas has of continued fighting against "Israel" and an enduring presence in Gaza. This is not a bluff, and he has switched from saying the US will be part of the 'solution' to "Israel" will be left to enact, in almost the same sentence.
(Meaning he has decided and commited to that Hamas will not be part of the post conflict picture).
I think he would prefer peace, he would try to 'force a peace'. Displacing the Palestinians is not a barrier to him in the sense that it would solve various problems at once, given that the US is also commited to the existence of "Israel". There are no compromises pragmatically possible on some of the questions (i.e. two state) from an "Israeli" point of view. Smotrich recently took out the salt by saying those in Gaza are not from Gaza but are already displaced from other Palestine regions. U.A.E. just backed displacement also.
That said, it might all be an 'offer' to allow a counter offer by Arab states that does not involve displacement.
(The trouble with that being that none will, or are able to, take Hamas out of the picture).
So we have this kind of stalemate.
The intentions of "Israel" are clear enough, but those move towsrds a regional war, because they would force the Palestinian population of Gaza to flee to Egypt and Jordan, placing a remainder in a one kilometer square camp indefinitely, or just killing all.
Any of that will be met by some form of retaliation.
So the threat of total use of force is balanced by the impracticality of that direction, unless a wider war is wanted:
The current rule in various neighbouring states might be seen to be ripe for overthrow, including of those allied to US, for reasons we cannot imagine. In other words, a complete replacement of the existing order using anti "Israel" sentiment as leverage. It is far fetched, and of course those here would more likely prefer to imagine a shift towards axis rather than what I just described.
Equally, "Israel" does not see the impracticality of total use of force as impractical. Considering that any neighbouring state that enters into direct conflict with "Israel" is likely to pay a dissuasively high price, "Israel" might well consider it can get away with the actions of its choice.
Trump would just step out of the direct picture at that point, 'he tried and made best offer possible'. The US depts. would be backing "Israel". "Israel" would want to leave Trump on a foot of being able to present accepting "Israeli" return to hostility (i.e. failure to relesase prisoners, eventually no concession by Hamas to abandon Gaza). Direct attacks on "Israel" would be met with outright US military support of "Israel".
So Trump is possibly taking the approach he finds most reasonable, considering his various loyalties.
As mentioned previously though, if he is not very careful "Israel"/Palestine will mire him. The people he is trying to bargain with won't respect others trying to bluff them into defeat, meaning he will have to kill them, along with the rest that goes along with that.
There are other possible directions to how events might go, they seem slim.
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:15 utc | 29
In the meantime, in the lesser camp of West Bank where "business is sanctioned by US to continue in exchange for ceasefire":
A bullet in the head
https://t.me/youseffares19/67801
Rage Against the Machine (language etc.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmgNZHCoPWI
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 13 2025 23:16 utc | 30
A little more info I have gleaned,
Qatar is sending a lot of fuel to Gaza. This means Israel is allowing it.
Egypt has its military on full alert in anticipation of fighting.
Egypt is handling the Arab response. Iran is handling the global Muslim response via diplomacy.
Egypt is expected to present 2 plans to rebuild Gaza without the Palestinians having to leave.
As Trump is driving people towards BRICS, is bringing the Ummah (Muslims as a global nation) together.
Things can still pop off at any time but the Egyptians seem to have assumed the role of "bad guy" which makes King Abdullah's comments that Egypt would be forthcoming with a response.
Hamas will honor the agreement once Israel has satisfied their end. Breaking an agreement is a big deal in Arab culture. A deal is a deal. The Zionists trying to play cute have weakened their hand, with even some retired Israeli officials saying that Hamas is in the right to demand the deal be fulfilled completely.
Meanwhile, Occupation police are beating protestors in the streets as Zionist society unravels.
I don't do premature celebrations. There may be hope on the horizon. 🤞
I heard an interesting perspective, if Trump offered green cards to Israelis, many would voluntarily leave. They would be the ones to relocate from the region, which makes sense since they are colonials with no ties to the land.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:24 utc | 31
Edit: As Trump is driving people towards BRICS, he is also bringing the Ummah (Muslims as a global nation) together.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:25 utc | 32
It is 15 million liters of fuel that Qatar is sending.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 33
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1
Egypt is mostly equipped with US arms which require US parts. They have no real capacity to fight an open war without US backing. Their M1 tanks and F-16 jets are little more than sculpture within a month of being cut off.
Should have bought Russian.
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34
Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 21:22 utc | 23
James, I'm not following all comments today, but on this subject today's Dialogue Works with Alex Krainer begins on this topic and I agree with him totally. I'll get the link next.
Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:36 utc | 35
Sean @ 26:
".any idea what percentage of squatters from Russia are living on stolen Palestinian land...what percentage of the Apartheid State population is dual citizen with Russia.....what percentage of IDF baby killers are of ethnic Russian decent. "
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I would like to know this, too.
I would also like to know how many IDF are Jewish Americans.
I have a theory that Israel was pushed decisively rightward with the influx of Soviet Jews---who had grown up and been educated in a totalitarian society in the USSR. Even though they saw themselves as victims (with a double-barreled sense of victimization and hence entitlement), they were also rasied in that system. Also, a lot of them were liars. As many as 40% (per Ilan Pappe) weren't actually Jews but said they were in order to get out of the USSR. A large proportion of the costs for resettling these people were borne by Jewish and Christian Zionist nonprofits, congregations, etc. in the USA.
One example:
Avigdor Lieberman, the head of the hard-right racialist Israel Our Home Party. He actually managed to leave the USSR in 1978. A lot of his followers are also Russian Jews. They hate all the Arabs, regardless of religion (i.e., also the Arab Jews).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisrael_Beiteinu
According to my Moscow pen pal (who is a deeply believing Orthodox Christian), quite a few have remigrated back to Russia, and are obnoxious.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 13 2025 23:38 utc | 36
President Donald Trump has received his first major slap in the face and setback at the hands of the Palestinian resistance, as his aggressive ultimatums failed to break their resolve. Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu was left with no choice but to yield, effectively kneeling before the unwavering determination of the resistance. This moment not only exposes the limits of Israeli power in Gaza but also sends a clear message that the resistance remains unbroken, capable of dictating conditions even in the face of overwhelming external pressure.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 13 2025 19:41 utc | 10
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Trump won.
'Look, there is a squirrel,' was his plan to get Tulsi Gabbard and RFJ Jr through by getting the Dems all upset, first about his outrageous Gaza 'plan' and then the D.O.G.E.s, which remind me of the Doge Palace in Venice. If anything, Musk is another smart and irreverent fellow.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 13 2025 23:39 utc | 37
@ juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:36 utc | 35
thanks.. i read his article today, as i subscribe to his 2 substack channels... he is mostly positive on trump... i read an article from thomas fazi today and in the comment section was a post that i think is worth sharing here, so i will share it.. tell me what you think..
this is a reply in response to a thomas fazi article here
United Against Oligarchy
United Against Oligarchy10hEdited
IMHO, it is profoundly misleading to use the words "peace" and trump's AIPAC administration in the same sentence, for three reasons. One, every single action of this pro-billionaire pro-empire infantile mass-murderer (including the EXTREME war hawks, NeoCons and ultra-zionists that he filled his AIPAC administration with) points to COMLETE DISREGARD for human life and complete dedication to billionaire oligarch domination over humanity. The only reason that trump's zionist billionaire handlers want to wrap-up the the operation in ukraine is because they want to shift and direct all the empire's fire power and resources into their two main objectives - their coming planned attack on china (to destroy BRICS and any challenge to their global domination); their funding and arming of the zionist colonizers' FINAL SOLUTION for the local people in palestine (either complete extermination or ethnic cleansing); and their coming planned attack on iran (both direct militarized-economic attack and/or through another one of their color revolutions).
If there's an interest, I wrote about all these here https://substack.com/@headandheart1/p-150090964
This isn't "peace". This is an IMPERIAL MANOUVER, by a global empire that absolutely detests and fears the possibility of peace between ordinary (non rulkng class) people and that thrives on eternal division, hate and conflict around the planet. I'll explain in a moment why the last thing in tne world that trumps' billionaires' empire wants is real peace on this planet (this will be the third point below)
Secondly , don't forget that russia is white and mostly christian, and therefore russians are not the ones who should be killed by the empire, according to tne God-ignorant religious fundametalists that trump filled his administration with, but rather the empire should be murdering only non-white non-christian infidels. That's another reason why trumps' christian fascists and NeoCon zionists are wrapping up this operation in preperation for their murder campaigns (crusades) elsewhere
Last reason why IMHO it is ignorant and misleading to claim that trump's AIPAC billionaires' empire have even the slightest interest in real peace between ordinary people on this planet (and in fact do everything possible to prevent such a thing from happening) is because Tribalist DIVISION, FEAR & HATRED (of an "evil monstrous scary enemy") is how oppressive ruling elites maintain control over "their own" people, who would otherwise be far more likely to remove the ultra-rich abusive elites from power.
Predatory ruling elites absolutely need to ensure that "their people" fear a boogyman EVIL ENEMY and look to their own "patriotic leaders" as protectors against that enemy.
That is why they use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to ensure that the tribalist-nationalist-religious division, fear, hatred and violence never ends. That is why they and their ptopagandists constantly teach us to fear and hate the "evil enemy of tje nation" (who that enemy happens to be can change from generation to generation, but what doesn't change is that they ALWAYS must create an 'evil monstrous scary enemy' for us to fear and hate), while paying lip service as if they want to end conflicts, when IN REALITY the end of national-religious division, hatred and conflict is the thing our billionaire rulers fear the most.
Peace, unity and cooperation between ordinary (non ruling class) people is an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to the billionaire ruling class and they make absolutely sure that it can never happen, make sure to incite as much religious-nationalist division, fear and hatred as possible.
Their elevated position of power over society depends on keeping us in a state of tribalist division, fear, unsafety, hatred and eternal conflict and war!!
They teach us to fear and hate "the enemy" through their narrative managers in their propaganda media (both their corporate mainstream media, or their mainstream "alternative media", which in most cases isn't alternative or independent at all) and through their numeous paid influencers on social media.
For many examples and full details on exactly how the elite oppresors across the planet do that, please see here https://www.pdrboston.org/oppressors-need-bogeyman-enemies (besides the profoundly important main essay, be sure to also follow the links leading out from the essay, for further learning and insight).
PS. The fact that the other faction of the american billiinaires' global empire (the right-wing DNC liberal capitalists in the DNC) are ALSO imperialist scum does NOT make the conservative faction of the empire (the fake "populist" billionaires) into the solution. That is precisely the trick that is played by the empire managers on americans (either the clueless mainstream liberals or the dumb and deceived MAGA worshippers) and other westerners, to herd us (using the oligarchs' algorithms) into partisan enclosures/echo-chambers, where we are taught to cheer for one or the other wing of the global oligarchy and to view the other half as 'the evil ones'. Very few seem to recognize BOTH halves of the elite, and very few seem to want real freedom from empire and dignity for all humans, but most seem to just want that the empire be under the right management, the management of "our billionaires" (not “their billionaires”), seem to just want the domination of the one wing of the oligarchy that they learnt to identify with
Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38
Here is the link I promised above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwFwdZeQ5B0
Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:46 utc | 39
Iran and Oman are doing joint drills to shut down the Hormuz Straight.
The Iranian FM went to Pakistan, Tunisia, Algeria, Turkiye, Malaysia, etc.
Erdogan is agitating that Israel should bear 100% of the reconstruction costs, which means America would be paying the bill since Israel is a welfare state with a wrecked economy.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:48 utc | 40
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34
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Egypt's power is in the large size of its military. The largest Arab (Turkiye and Iran are not Arab states) force and the IDF is fatigued from fighting Hamas and Hezbollah.
The Egyptians might not win, but they can destroy Israel's capacity to project force in Gaza and the West Bank.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:58 utc | 41
Posted by: james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38
Thank you james. I'll just say I totally disagree. The deep state has been the orchestrator of the wars, using questionable means which involve, unfortunately, the organization in question. What Trump is doing there is connected to rapprochment with Russia, which needs to happen. It is all connected.
This has nothing to do with who is whatever color, or who is religious - these are red herrings. It has to do with common sense and trust.
Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:59 utc | 42
I will just add to my comment above that the system in which we operate, or rather in which politicians operate is, I will agree, totally skewed at present towards oligarchal control BUT it used to be said that money isn't speech, and that is what we should continue to hold, shouldn't we? I believe that Trump is indicating by his actions that while he appreciates the help he is getting, he doesn't feel obliged to follow what one might suppose are the desires of those supporting him.
And I would further say, if they still support him, (as they must know by now the sort of character he has), doesn't that say something good about them as well?
Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 0:12 utc | 43
"President Donald Trump has received his first major slap in the face and setback at the hands of the Palestinian resistance, as his aggressive ultimatums failed to break their resolve. "
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Not sure I agree with this.
Krainer says don't get triggered by everything Trump says.
Nor by what Net says.
The way things look to me is that on the ground, Hamas and Trump are actually on the same side. Hamas, by not caving in to Net and insisting on keeping to the terms of the ceasefire, is actually putting more meat on Trump's ceasefire.
Hamas has obliged Israel to stick to Trump's plan.
It looks to me like Hamas and Trump have both handed Israel a defeat, or called its bluff.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 0:17 utc | 44
[email protected] have a family friend, jewish, his dad pulled him from Jewish Private School and sent him to a Christian Private School. His father didn't like how obnoxious he was becoming. He told us once that Rabbis have two sermons each week. One for the congregation if only church members are present, and a plan B sermon in the event outsiders were at the service.....
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 14 2025 0:19 utc | 45
Thanks james! I enjoyed that chance to be a bit paradoxical myself.
;)
Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 0:25 utc | 46
@ juliania | Feb 13 2025 23:59 utc | 42 43/ 46
thanks juliania! paradox is a part of life too.. i wanted to share somebody's rant that i thought had some merit, not that i am perfectly aligned with it... you might be right in your ultimate conclusions on all this.. time will tell soon enough..
Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 0:28 utc | 47
I love how 'alarmed' the MSM is over Trump appeasing Putin but have nothing to say about Trump meeting Netanyahu's demands.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Feb 14 2025 0:42 utc | 48
@ james | Feb 13 2025 23:41 utc | 38 with the rant...thx
The thing I would add is my current belief that not all oligarchs are grouped alike and there is a hierarchy based on wealth. That why I keep writing about Pope Frank and King Chuck, because they represent old wealth, and lots of it. How much wealth does the Catholic church have in its banking system, in gold stuff, property and business holdings?......perhaps more than Musk, eh?
Yeah, we talk about Trump and Musk being oligarchs but they have not been accumulating wealth/power/control for centuries. I think a culling of the lower oligarchs and the slave public below them is being arranged....
The shit show continues until it doesn't and am not sure today that I will see the end.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:58 utc | 41
The size of the force does not matter, if you cannot maintain logistics it will crumble. And fighting across an open dessert without any water but which you can transport with you requires the ability to prevent enemy airpower from blowing up your water tankers. Egypt does not have that ability due to their reliance on an enemy power to supply those systems. They should have bought Russian rather than taking gifts from the USA.
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 1:05 utc | 50
from Middle East Eye:
"A senior Trump administration official suggested that Washington may permit Israel to maintain control over five outposts in southern Lebanon, telling Haaretz, 'Israeli presence in the five points directly bears on whether the government of Lebanon ultimately does what it has promised to do.' The official also stated that the US would closely monitor Lebanon’s compliance with ceasefire commitments."
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This is obviously a different "official" than the one who said earlier in the week the Trump admin had expectations the Israeli Feb 18 withdrawal date would be adhered to. Bad form to say U.S. - the ceasefire guarantor - was more concerned closely monitoring Lebanon than monitoring the egregious violator Israel. Plus endorsing what sounds like a permanent "outpost" presence. Slap in face of the new Lebanon government in part installed at US insistence.
Posted by: jayc | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 51
RE: “Never trust the US and Russia, despite the differences between them.”
Posted by: JB | Feb 13 2025 19:58 utc | 12
Agreed.
Khomeini is on the ball about both. Realizes they’re both snakes in the grass.
Both have been out for Iran’s destruction long before Soviet days even, and neither will ever be an ally of Iran.
Now seeing Russia’s part in the collapse of Syria, like Ukraine, in a manner that suited both US and Russia. No Islamic Caliphate on Russia border area, US control, but Russia gets to stay in port as a check against Iran.
All in all, US/Russia duo working out fine, subjugation of both EU and ME together.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 52
BBC World News America just reported something like "a missle was released toward Israel from Gaza, but outside Gaza," or something like that. He spoke it very quickly at the end of his report on the ceasefire, and I didn't quite get it, but he seemed to suggest a mysterious occurrence to worry about.
Be prepared for the possibility of a FALSE FLAG by Mossad or some Israhell minion.
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 14 2025 1:05 utc | 50
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Logistics are less of a concern when we're talking about a raid.
If Egypt gets into it with Israel, it's not going to be a 2 year war. It will be over in 2 weeks once the other factions weigh in.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:12 utc | 54
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 52
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Khomeini has been dead for some time.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:12 utc | 55
Street protests in Lebanon right now after the government (on Israeli orders) turned away an airplane of returning Lebanese citizens.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:34 utc | 56
@ psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49
thanks... i agree with you in your general appraisal of where we are at and i too would like to see the god of mammon end, whether it is old inheritance based or new extractive based... the level of money these folks have is obscene considering the abject poverty we continue to witness in the world today.. then their is the thought of all the slavery, servitude and worse, not to mention needless wars that aren't in anyone's interest, other then these same folks praying at the alter of mammon... one step at a time... it feels like with regard to palestine, collectively we are moving backwards, instead of forward..
Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 1:52 utc | 57
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 14 2025 0:56 utc | 49
On your observation of different degrees of oligarchy, I would agree, psychohistorian. An example is Russia, which has come this far having separated theirs by the insistence that they support the state or leave or be imprisoned.
It's not unlike the subtleties within Christianity, where there is the wellknown 'camel through the eye of a needle' difficulty statement by Jesus. Not often remembered is what is said immediately afterwards. The disciples have said, 'Then who can be saved?' and the answer given is "With God, nothing is impossible.' And an important exception comes at Christ's burial, which is accompanied by the gift of a rich man, Joseph of Arimathea, who gives a new tomb for his body. One of the most beautiful hymns of Holy Week commemorates this gift. It is entitled 'The Noble Joseph'. Every Eastertime this rich man is highly honored by this beautiful hymn sung very slowly in procession around the embroidered icon of the feast.
Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 2:26 utc | 58
Posted by: james | Feb 14 2025 0:28 utc | 47
It does have merit, james. And especially in these times when the separation between the very rich and the rest of us is markedly out of balance where many of us live; we see it and feel it. 'By their fruits ye shall know them' and we haven't seen many fruits as yet. I hope this won't be construed as OT. I'm holding my breath that the ceasefire will hold, and at least the bombing has stopped and people have returned to Gaza. But it's only the beginning of the beginning so far. There's no guarantee and plenty of dark clouds on the horizon.
Posted by: juliania | Feb 14 2025 2:41 utc | 59
Some retired senior Occupation leaders have been publicly criticizing Bibi while the street protests continue to grow.
Bibi, meanwhile, keeps denying that they are delivering anything to Gaza and swearing that, like Trump, he will bring hell to Gaza if Hamas doesn't release all of the hostages on Saturday.
The best outcome for everyone is for Israel to collapse.
Bibi is cunning politically but even he can't keep Jews in line when they start kvetching.
I wonder what Trump thinks of all of this. He will be getting a proper analysis now.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 2:56 utc | 60
YouTuber Janta Ka reported an extraordinary and possibly deeply significant announcement by the U.S. spokesperson Karoline Leavitt. Leaving it to the very end of the press conference (allowing swift escape avoiding any questions) and even calling it a “housekeeping” issue, she essentially let it be known that the outcome of Trump’s meeting with King Abdullah of Jordan was the opposite of what had been understood.
They had had a “great” meeting of course. But gone was any reiteration of Trump’s insistence on US ownership of Gaza and of his former demand for Gazan ethnic cleansing from the territory to Jordan, Egypt or elsewhere. Instead this idea was Trump’s aspiration only (majestic??) but the emphasis on peace in the Middle East. Peace but with no imposed prescription from the U.S.
That is a massive change in position on a massively important global issue - Israel, Palestine and Gaza. Not housekeeping. In 24 hours a change from “we own Gaza, its people will leave and not come back” … to “I would prefer they left, King Abdulla wants them to stay, the main thing is peace”. So an apparent walk back of Trump’s Gaza demands.
Another strange thing was that while this “housekeeping” announcement was being made K Leavitt looked as white as a (white) sheet. A noticeably paler complexion than usual. Fear? Why such a huge reversal, announced as “housekeeping” and the pallor of face? As if she had seen a ghost.
Something strangely momentous happened behind the scenes. Something that brought about an abrupt about turn in Trump’s Gaza policy. Something that turned Karoline Leavitt’s normally rosy complexion white. It would seem that King Abdullah came to Trump bearing messages from States larger and more powerful than Jordan. Probably quite a number of them.
https://youtu.be/KVODzpKFvJs?si=AV95-njrxZ56D8Xr
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Feb 14 2025 3:23 utc | 61
Khomeini is on the ball about both. Realizes they’re both snakes in the grass.
Both have been out for Iran’s destruction long before Soviet days even, and neither will ever be an ally of Iran. [ERROR: US before WW2 only provided humanitarian support to Iran. You are confusing GB/UK with US]
All in all, US/Russia duo working out fine, subjugation of both EU and ME together.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 14 2025 1:08 utc | 52
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Khomeini has been dead for some time.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 1:12 utc | 55
lol that was the . (now do the math)
Posted by: bones | Feb 14 2025 4:14 utc | 62
Lockheed Martin’s stock price went from $611 just before Trump was elected to $434 as it continues to plummet this week, that’s a 28% drop in 6 months. I haven’t seen any evidence that the military is mobilizing this week. The Gaza Condo plan is a Trump negotiating tactic.
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 14 2025 4:16 utc | 63
Jane about rightisation
Exactly my view too on the role of the USSR imports. This is when Netanyahu appears on the scene kn the late 80s with full support of US millionaires to extend the colonies. At the same time they addressed both the European Jewish communities and those in South Africa and elsewhere with movements claiming they are "Jews for Jesus" or for Chebad Lubavich that "the Messiah has come". I suspect the latter was to make friend with the Christian Zionists and attract funding from them too.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:03 utc | 64
The world is sliding into fascism as the US puts sanctions on UN officials, Germany forbids Albanese to talk, and ALL the Western govs dont make a peep about it. Who needs Epstein when you control the WWW?
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:20 utc | 65
Macron is the new Tony Blair
https://aje.io/ednb0m?update=3508969
With his AI summit where announcement was made of 200 billions of (mainly US) investments in tech he will make sure everyone is hooked to the NSA.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:24 utc | 66
Israel has been using big events elsewhere in the world - such as downing of MH-17 - events which capture the world attention and especially western media attention, to start bombing and attacking Palestinians.
The aura of peace making Donald may eclipse the massive and /or provoked, intentionally provoked, attack on Gaza - and the western media will 'delete' it from history.. Israel was and is extremely dangerous and evil and treacherous Jewish State, as it gave this name to itself.
Posted by: fanto | Feb 14 2025 5:32 utc | 67
61 Andrew Sarchis --"Something strangely momentous happened behind the scenes. Something that brought about an abrupt about turn in Trump’s Gaza policy."
Yesterday Mouin Rabbani
@MouinRabbani write on X--
"It seems Netanyahu has received instructions to comply with more of his commitments from his US masters,
and is arguably responding to desperate appeals from his generals as well.
If the exchange of captives this weekend proceeds as planned, he will no doubt claim it has nothing to do with Israel reducing its violations and is purely the result of his threats to resume the war."
Resisting the New McCarthyism in Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PaldS72SQo
"A webinar about the state targeting anti-genocide protesters with charges and jail time while finding under-handed ways to sanction pro-Palestinian speech.
BCCLA lawyer Aislin Jackson and author Yves Engler discuss the sharp rise in anti-democratic tactics pursued by the state to crack down on Palestinian advocates."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 6:51 utc | 69
Bibis gift of a golden pager to Trump was straight out of Compton. Trump says he has left instructions to destroy Iran if he is assassinated. One wonders what those instructions really are. No discussion of the golden pager by Napolitano or Nima. If it was discussed they might get golden pagers too. Everyone gets a "Apollo gold" pager now.
The new JFK investigation is another clown show. Maybe it was Iran.
Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 8:08 utc | 70
The world is sliding into fascism as the US puts sanctions on UN officials, Germany forbids Albanese to talk, and ALL the Western govs dont make a peep about it.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 14 2025 5:20 utc | 65
Not "the world". The West.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 14 2025 8:35 utc | 71
Deniz 152 ( Feb 13 2025 19:20 utc | 8 ) wrote:
My guess is either he is bluffing or he is fully captured by the Zionists.Maybe also "both bluffing and captured by zionists", or "neither bluffing nor captured by zionists" :)
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Boole for the win! (Boolean logic, the mid-19th century Irish mathematics that helped make possible what you're using right now when Shannon (Irish heritage) wrote about using it to switch circuits 80 years later in the 1930ies in the US).
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 14 2025 9:03 utc | 72
With the current world situation, one can begin to trace the outline of the importance of BRICS, SCO, BRICS Development Bank. For countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the organizational support for managing geopolitical pressure (tacit/and more probably than not considerable sotto voce communication). Interesting that US and affiliates do not appear to carefully study opposing perspectives, anticipating communication/responses. Would anticipate Russian responses conditioned by Islamic as well as Jewish interests given that Russia has a considerable population of Muslims as well as Jews; also affiliations through BRICS and many other formal, informal land treaty affiliations. Putin and Larov both have considerable expertise in walking through geopolitical fields packed with mines and IED's. Will be interesting to observe the ongoing evolution of many pressing geopolitical issues.
Posted by: abierno | Feb 13 2025 20:34 utc | 19
The way I look at it is the Overton window of the world is shifting rapidly.
It is as clear as day to me the world is moving to a more not less authoritarian geopolitical landscape. In some ways it is the only way you can keep bastards out of your economy. In other ways it is all ideological.
People say what the Israeli government looks like now is very extreme. The truth is Netanyahu saw it was the future norm.
With the true left dead and buried throughout the world and libtards, and fascists continuing to move domestic Overton Windows forever rightwards. Then the only natural outcome on a global scale was the global Overton window was going to become more and more authoritarian.
If we open our eyes and look in a mirror and be completely honest with ourselves. You can see this authoritarian shift everywhere.
This puts Palestine and other smaller countries around the globe in real jeopardy.
What happens with BRICS now ?
I threw a perspective out there before the election that I wanted Kamala Harris to win. Harris as President BRICS would have grown stronger quicker and there was a very real possibility that the EU and thus NATO would have broke apart. With the libtards in charge this was looking like a real possibility. To Russia and China and BRICS in general the libtards were a gift that kept on giving.
It was obvious to me with a Trump win this wouldn't be the case. That he would try and end the wars and once again unite the EU and NATO and when ready attack BRICS head on. With Israeli popularity crumbling throughout the world when the libtards were in charge. Israel is getting some respectability back under Trump via the cease fire.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 9:39 utc | 73
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 13 2025 23:32 utc | 34
I thought everybody should have realised by now that wars are no longer won with Tanks and F16s, but with drones and artillery. If Yemen can put the hurt on Tel Aviv from 1000km away, well so can anyone in the neighborhood. Israel and Egypt are next to each other so pilots in the air are hardly necessary to demolish each others cities. Tanks only roll in when one side is practically on its knees. Egypt has the larger army and can take more casualties. This is not 1970. Attrition wins this one unless Nuttyahoo presses the red button guaranteeing the end of his own nation as well as others in the region
Posted by: DaVinci | Feb 14 2025 9:42 utc | 74
Right now the Palestinians could throw one of the biggest curveballs in history.. Suppose they approached Trump with a share of Gaza (beach for sale) and some reconstruction contracts. Hamas could credibly assure no terror in exchange for relative peace. Once US investment is on the ground, arms deliveries to Israel magically cease and Trump won. If they play it smart that bug is in his ear before AIPAC can intervene and it happens while Trump is pissed off at Netanyahu.
As impossible as the deal looks with Israel, as possible it is with Palestinians. No one needs to move and those who want to can go to the West Bank. Once Gaza is reasonably stable with US backing West Bank could be either split or merged with Jordan - unjust but peaceful.
Israel could get the short end of the stick and keep some land and a lot of shame.
Posted by: SOS | Feb 14 2025 9:53 utc | 75
With the Libtards in charge never before in recent history did Russia and China and BRICS in general have the West so much on the run. Never before did Israel look so weak.
Now with Trump in the Whitehouse and my biggest fear is being realised. That is, what we were always watching was a battle between corporatists on the one hand and Oligarchs on the other. As the right kicked lumps out of each other daily in full view of the public. That whoever won that battle was going to determine what Conservatism was going to look like in the future.
That Conservatism was going to be more not less authoritarian. Some countries who like that idea who are religious authoritarian themselves and who were thinking of joining BRICS when the libtards were in charge. Might now actually enjoying hearing some of the dog whistles and siren calls coming out of the Whitehouse.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:02 utc | 76
EI Podcast: Day 26 - Gaza Ceasefire [*Must Watch*]
https://x.com/intifada/status/1890083521794043925
"Breaking news and analysis."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 10:07 utc | 77
Thread:
https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1889920814449041520
"It seems the Israeli-Palestinian exchange of captives that had been scheduled for this weekend but was suspended by Hamas this past Monday is now back on track. What happened?
The short answer: Israel's prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu, caved..."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 10:21 utc | 78
Mark my words, I am going to make a prediction.
IF Trump and his form of Conservatism continue to get away with trampling over the constitution and breaking every separation of powers laws in the land.
It is only a matter of time before an executive order goes through regarding the church and the state. Equivalent to the Swastika on one aisle of the Church and the cross on the other aisle of the church. As you walk down the aisle of the church.
It is as clear as day to me if he is not stopped this is the direction of travel. His voting base demands it. Keep a very close eye on the changes he makes regarding the church and the state.
What that will mean for the Middle East.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:28 utc | 79
Spheres of influence. Is an authoritarian world view.
The little guy ( Palestine ) has no choice.
I find it troubling how we can go from BRICS to sphere of influence in a heart beat.
Karlof needs to do a substack on it breaking down what Lavrov thinks it means. When BRICS is supposed to be the antithesis of sphere of influence.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 14 2025 10:56 utc | 80
Sunny has just become the leader, surpassing vargas with his 12th, "The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today Award", with this witless offering.
"Mark my words, I am going to make a prediction.
IF Trump and his form of Conservatism continue to get away with trampling over the constitution and breaking every separation of powers laws in the land."
Posted by: Sunny | Feb 14 2025 10:28 utc | 79
Is is Conservatism to shit down USA,AID that was doing CIA's dirty business without the knowledge of the executive?
That is unconstitutional in itself but as you are besotted, bigly, with TDS you blindly call out foul when exactly the opposite is occurring.
As usual, you are a perfect contra indicator.
BTW: Congrats on being the new leader in TMRPIHRT award -richly deserved.
"The way things look to me is that on the ground, Hamas and Trump are actually on the same side. Hamas, by not caving in to Net and insisting on keeping to the terms of the ceasefire, is actually putting more meat on Trump's ceasefire.
Hamas has obliged Israel to stick to Trump's plan.
It looks to me like Hamas and Trump have both handed Israel a defeat, or called its bluff."
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 0:17 utc | 44
Well said-I agree 100%
"Erdogan is agitating that Israel should bear 100% of the reconstruction costs, which means America would be paying the bill since Israel is a welfare state with a wrecked economy."
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 23:48 utc | 40
In my opinion it would be cheaper, less bloody and good PR for America to pay all Gaza reparations , castrate Netanyahu (actually he already has been as he has severe prostate cancer which amounts to the same thing) keep the peace as the US has more chickens to fry than just the ME.
James 38
Thank you for instilling a little sanity into the discussion.
What makes the Russophobes here think that Putin is fond of fake Russian Jews?
Putin was befriended and pastored by Russian Jews , but that definitely doesn't make him.a friend of Revisionist Zionist Nazi Nutjob.
It's completely bonkers to say that Russia which engaged in war against USUKIS when it was trying to carve out Greater Israel during their Wars on Iraq and Syria from 2003 up to this year, is trying to carve out an Empire of its own.
Are you all drunk or something?
Sorry, stupid question. Sorry for being sober anyway.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 14 2025 11:36 utc | 84
Equating Russia, which is a another victim of US imperialism via the proxy Ukraine conflict, with the US is an attempt to whitewash American crimes.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Feb 13 2025 22:41 utc | 25
In your reaction to my post, and particularly my view that 'the US and Russia should not be trusted, despite the differences between them', you somehow read an attempt to whitewash US crimes, which does not follow from the content of my post or the particular quote you react to.
I do not equate the US and Russia, because that would be contrary to facts.
I say that the US and Russia (before that the USSR) are both major world powers who act always according to their own interests through maximal influence and say in international affairs. Said in another way - their primary interest is to steer/control processes, events and outcomes in line with their own interests.
In order to achieve that, they both act in an unprincipled manner when they deem necessary.
For that reason they are not to be trusted.
In the Palestine issue they have one interest in common - the preservation of Israel, regardless of any considerations, including the long history of victimisation of the Palestinians which culminated in genocide, a word never heard from a Russian official's mouth, despite the overwhelming evidence, the ICJ preliminary assessment etc.
Russia, which has cited genocide as one of the reasons for its SMO in Ukraine is not calling the genocide in Gaza - genocide, even though actions of the Kiev regime against the Russian-speaking population in Donbas are incomparable to the actions of the Zionist in Gaza and the WB.
That is dishonest and unprincipled as, is Russia's insistence on the "two state solution" as the "only" solution to the core problem in the ME which is - the criminal Zionist project.
Apart from anything else, the "two state solution" certainly is not "the only" solution", because there are other solutions.
Russia is dedicated to the security of Israel as one of its core interests. So is the US.
They can not be trusted.
Posted by: JB | Feb 14 2025 11:47 utc | 85
Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 8:08 utc | 70
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so is the epstein case, another clown show hidding the truth behind a Zionist pedo ring.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 14 2025 11:53 utc | 86
Okay, these are off-topic, but they are just so funny....USA, USA, we're number one!!!!
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1) The American aircraft carrier USS 'Harry S. Truman' collided with the merchant vessel 'Besiktas-M' approximately four hours ago near Port Said, Egypt, in the Mediterranean Sea.
2) The Boeing C-32 plane carrying U.S. Secretary of State Marcio Rubio, bound for Germany, was forced to return to Maryland's Joint Base Andrews due to a 'mechanical issue.' The cockpit windshield reportedly cracked.
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
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Posted by: teri | Feb 14 2025 13:39 utc | 87
JB
' Russia, which has cited genocide as one of the reasons for its SMO in Ukraine is not calling the genocide in Gaza - genocide, even though actions of the Kiev regime against the Russian-speaking population in Donbas are incomparable to the actions of the Zionist in Gaza and the WB.'
Russia adhered to Minsk in good faith while preparing for bad faith from Nato and the US. Russia adheres to international Law and UN Resolutions while preparing for those Binding Laws to be broken by USUKIS.
You appear to be like a broken water pipe. No sooner is a leak repaired in one place than another one busts open somewhere else. Like broken record.
Back in the days, Al Qaida were programmed by USUKIS to hate Russia as an act of unbreakable US dogma. They are now pretending different and let Russia keep its base at Tartus. USUKIS spawn will never change from their undying hatred of Russia.
Maybe you swallowed the same koolaid Craig Murray did in the British Foreign Office. Not going to waste my finger or my breath.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 14 2025 14:28 utc | 88
Anyone know if Trump plans to pardon the guy who displayed the Palestinian flag at the Super Bowl? No? Deported to Palestine?
A note to taggers and flaggers, the Palestinian flag is distinctive. Looking forward to seeing it painted on the sides of rail cars, bridges, pillars and the like.....not sure if the tagger community believes in solidarity, or, perhaps a new community of taggers can proudly paint the Palestinian flag on all public property in all the countries that support the Genocide of Palestine.
Cheers M
Where are the protests outside Mar A Largo.......a genocider lives there..... he supplies daycare busting bombs to monsters that use them to blow up temporary play grounds set up in refugee camps....
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 14 2025 14:50 utc | 89
Bibis gift of a golden pager to Trump was straight out of Compton. . . .
Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 8:08 utc | 70
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I don't know what Compton is, but to me the golden pager looks kind of like the horse's head in The Godfather.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 15:57 utc | 90
https://youtu.be/KVODzpKFvJs?si=AV95-njrxZ56D8Xr
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Feb 14 2025 3:23 utc | 61
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I didn't notice that Leavitt looked white as a sheet, but the abruptness of the announcement and her shutting the door on questionwas enough.
All in all she looks competent to me.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:01 utc | 91
Posted by: SOS | Feb 14 2025 9:53 utc | 75
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It is an idea worthy of consideration!
Another plus is that in doing a deal directly with Hamas, that might beef up general recognition that Hamas is the interim government of the Palestinian state.
Thee is precedent for this.
The Jewish Agency was the government-in-waiting of the Jewish state for decades before 1948.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:05 utc | 92
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 15:57 utc | 90
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Compton is (was, I haven't been there in decades) a very black part of LA, "Straight Outta Compton" was the name of a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (niggas with attitude).
He's saying gifting the pager was some gangster stuff, you're saying the same from a white angle with the horse's head.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 16:18 utc | 93
SOS and
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:05 utc | 92
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Transferring a parcel of in Gaza via a legally drawn-up deed would also put meat on the idea that Palestinian Rights Are Property Rights.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:19 utc | 94
🇮🇶⚔️🇺🇸The Islamic Resistance in Iraq (Al-Nujaba Movement) announces, through a statement, the formation of a special military force called Al-Burhan Combat Force.It declares its full readiness to confront the American occupation of Iraq, and stands in the face of the challenges that may befall the country.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 17:23 utc | 95
"I don't know what Compton is, but to me the golden pager looks kind of like the horse's head in The Godfather.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 15:57 utc | 90"
Golden pager gift received
Immediately after
"return all the hostages(contrary to trump cease fire) or all hell will break out" DJT
plata o plomo
Posted by: bugaboo | Feb 14 2025 18:04 utc | 96
https://x.com/arslanu2/status/1889764105428541929
Muhammad Arslanullah Gondal @arslanu2
South Africa’s unwavering stance in pursuing justice against Israel at the International Court of Justice is commendable and a beacon of moral leadership.
Despite external pressure and threats, standing firm in the face of injustice and upholding the principles of international law demonstrates true integrity.
Why This Matters:
1. Courageous Diplomacy – South Africa is setting a precedent that powerful nations should not be exempt from accountability.
2. Moral Responsibility – Addressing the plight of Palestinians is not just a political issue but a humanitarian necessity.
3. Historical Parallels – Having endured apartheid, South Africa understands the devastating impact of systemic oppression and is rightfully taking a stand.
4. Global Influence – This move encourages other nations to support justice and challenge impunity.
5. Legal & Ethical Standpoint – The pursuit of justice through legal frameworks strengthens international law and ensures accountability for war crimes.
South Africa’s position reflects a commitment to human rights, justice, and international law, setting an example for other nations to follow.
The world needs more countries willing to challenge oppression and stand by the oppressed.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 14 2025 18:33 utc | 97
Larry C Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-CRZvj1528
"Trump's Middle East meltdown? Shocking moves and consequences."
Phil Giraldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXTgtFavMxY
"Is Israel friend or foe to the US?"
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 14 2025 18:51 utc | 98
Transferring a parcel of in Gaza via a legally drawn-up deed would also put meat on the idea that Palestinian Rights Are Property Rights.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 14 2025 16:19 utc | 94
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Property rights are another colonial mechanism for the long-term erosion of sovereignty.
The colonial powers don't observe property rights in their own country. Why would they respect them during a Crusade?
You're obviously intelligent, but I do wonder if you have done any deep thinking on this subject.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 14 2025 19:57 utc | 99
David Hearst (Middle East Eye): "I have become optimistic about an solution for Gaza for the 1st time in 15 months". Hearst considers this to be the first step towards an end of the palestinian conflict.
Trump ("empty out Gaza") & Netanyahu (humiliated Jordan & Saudi Arabia too much) have overplayed their hands. They have insulted the arab coutries in the Middle East too much. Saudi Arabia now has definitely turned against Israel. The socalled "Abram (???) accords" now seem to be a "dead letter".
The fall of the Assad also "weakened" the position of Hezbollah and the iranian axis in the Middle East. Surprisingly this weakening has made the position of Saudi Arabia actually stronger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwoz4nczVvM (length: 9 minutes)
Description of the video (in italics):
Trump and Netanyahu have created a strong angry Arab front - but can it be maintained?
In a matter of a week, Saudi foreign policy had reverted five decades back to the Arab nationalism of King Faisal, says Middle East Eye’s editor-in-chief David Hearst in his latest column.
Between them, Trump and Netanyahu made two big mistakes in the interviews they gave around the Israeli premier’s visit to Washington. In just a few days, Trump and Netanyahu undid all their own work. They were the ones who arm-twisted the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco to sign the Abraham Accords.
In his interview with Fox News, Netanyahu made no bones about the purpose of doing this. He said it was done to sideline the Palestinians. Netanyahu poured scorn on Saudi sensibilities.
Bin Salman was not the only Arab leader Netanyahu and Trump insulted.
King Abdullah of Jordan was forced to endure the ritual of a reality TV fireside chat with Trump, without being able to publicly disagree with him.
And now, for the first time in 15 months, there is a real prospect of a frontline of Arab states emerging, formed from the countries which have been so quiescent to Israel.
Read the full column on middleeasteye.net
Hearst's complete column can be found here at this link:
(the column contains links to other videos)
Perhaps Alastair Crooke has written a column on this topic as well ?
Posted by: WMG | Feb 14 2025 19:59 utc | 100
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Egypt has a Camp David peace agreement with Israel.
The Egyptians have told everyone that cutting aid or expelling the Palestinians into Egypt will nullify the deal and Egypt and Israel will be back at war.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 13 2025 17:09 utc | 1