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February 9, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-029
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From Reuters
Hamas says it will stop releasing hostages, accuses Israel of ceasefire violations
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Abu Ubaida, a spokesperson for Hamas’ military wing, said that since the ceasefire came into effect on January 19, Israel had delayed allowing displaced Palestinians from returning to northern Gaza, targeted Gazans with military shelling and gunfire and had stopped relief materials entering the territory.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2025 17:46 utc | 101
Continue: Netanyahu addressing the Knesset
Netanyahu: I returned from the United States with a new vision without Hamas and without the authority that encourages murderers
Netanyahu: The Americans praised, above all, the elimination of the great murderers Haniyeh, Sinwar, and of course Nasrallah, who broke the axis of evil.
Netanyahu: Nasrallah’s killing fractured the axis of evil and caused the fall of #Assad, and we were then able to control the Golan Height
Netanyahu: We secured our borders on the Lebanese, Syrian and of course Gaza sides
Netanyahu: Whoever raises his sword against us, we will crush him, and we are changing the Middle East, and the war is not over yet.
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Hamas announcement:
Al-Qassam Brigades announces postponement of release of Israeli detainees scheduled for Saturday in protest against the occupation’s failure to abide by humanitarian provisions
The military spokesman for the Al-Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida, said that the resistance leadership has monitored the enemy’s violations and failure to abide by the terms of the agreement over the past three weeks, including delaying the return of the displaced to the northern Gaza Strip, targeting them with shelling and gunfire
in various areas of the Strip, and not allowing the entry of relief supplies in all their forms according to what was agreed upon, while the resistance has implemented all its obligations.
Accordingly, the handover of the Zionist prisoners who were scheduled to be released next Saturday, corresponding to 02-15-2025, will be postponed until further notice, and until the occupation commits to and compensates for the past weeks retroactively. We affirm our commitment to the terms of the agreement as long as the occupation commits to them.
Posted by: JB | Feb 10 2025 17:47 utc | 102
102 – Zionist triumphalism in Netanyahu’s speech. Not surprising the exchange has been suspended.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 10 2025 18:02 utc | 103
We shouldn’t be surprised that the crap-stain cease-fire, engineered by that ghoul Blinken, and dragged across the finish line like a dead dog by the bullying Trump, is falling apart after less than one month.
Trump’s honeymoon appears to be over as well, after around 20 days. He’s going to have to shit or get off the pot in the ME, and with Project Ukraine as well.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 10 2025 18:09 utc | 104
Hey LoveDonbass, by your way – the germans should stop paying “reparations” to the “victims of the holohaox” which does not include gypsies artists etc etc only tiny hats. From what I read germans are still paying… In my world you don’t steal and murder and then say – oh ok the neighbors will pay and walk away. Fair is fair…
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 10 2025 18:11 utc | 105
PS. The rabid dog Izzies are STILL killing people in syria and the West Bank. If there are no penalties they will keep on stealing and killing. As for right of return, Bibi the butcher should go back to Poland and that disgusting smalldick should slither back to Ukraine. How any one can be discussing the fine points of what Trump may have in mind, when the fact is that he’s not only enabling killing and stealing, he’s financing it and providing the weapons, is beyond my ken. Murder is murder. He can ban all the penny making he wants, he’s still an accomplice to genocide.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 10 2025 18:20 utc | 106
Trump’s honeymoon appears to be over as well, after around 20 days. He’s going to have to shit or get off the pot in the ME, and with Project Ukraine as well.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 10 2025 18:09 utc | 104
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I saw somewhere today that China is putting a 15% tariff on US autos.
Trump has been trying to flog American cars, which is like trying to sell transistor radios in the internet age. ICE, ugly designs, poor reliability, inefficient, and low tech …
Not many American cars are sold to China in the first place, but this will create another hurdle for Trump to overcome in his negotiations.
I think the ease of Panama rolling over had Trump feeling this might be “too easy”.
The thing about Trump is that he is a big thinker and will always talk a big game. This is not an election against Kamala or Joe Biden. His opponents are competent and powerful.
Between Xi, Putin, and the Ayatollah Khameini, America is going to understand that it no longer calls the tune.
Mrs. Adelson has been agitating to get the hostages back. The Zionist camp is starting to show its cracks. Coupled with Bibi’s poor health, the occupation is on the ropes. I believe I also read that Egypt has called an emergency meeting of the Arab League to discuss Gaza.
I don’t anticipate armed conflict. The worst outcome for the US may be Islamic solidarity coalescing around Gaza and the need for the occupation to F off. Divide and conquer is the Modus Operandi of the colonial empires.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 10 2025 18:22 utc | 107
@LoveDonbass – I agree with the thought that Trump is a talker. He’s got his hands full battling the deep state back at home. I don’t see him following through on the Gaza ethnic cleansing plan. I foresee AnsarAllah getting back in the game, soon.
Unfortunately, I see Netanyahu as hopeless – he’ll have to start bombing Gaza again unless somehow a miracle occurs. He will do Trump’s dirty work.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 10 2025 18:28 utc | 108
Posted by: canuck | Feb 10 2025 3:01 utc | 57
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Actually I think you have won the award.
Here’s a visual aid: [(;=)]
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2025 18:28 utc | 109
Hamas says it will stop releasing hostages, accuses Israel of ceasefire violations
@Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2025 17:46 utc | 101
Reuters is now reporting that it is no longer a threat to stop releasing hostages.
But Hamas’ Ubaida said the next scheduled release of hostages on Saturday would be postponed until Israel complies with the ceasefire agreement and “compensates for the past weeks”.
Posted by: librul | Feb 10 2025 18:46 utc | 110
@Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2025 17:46 utc | 101
Reuters is now reporting that it is no longer a threat to stop releasing hostages.
But Hamas’ Ubaida said the next scheduled release of hostages on Saturday would be postponed until Israel complies with the ceasefire agreement and “compensates for the past weeks”.
Posted by: librul| Feb 10 2025 18:46 utc | 110
Hmmm…IIRC Ansar Allah quieted down to respect the ceasefire deal
Nutty & the Marmalade Messiah better watch out for what happens if they break the deal
Posted by: Mary | Feb 10 2025 18:51 utc | 111
Did Christ save the Don from the bullet so he can build beach front property on stolen Palestinian land?
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 10 2025 19:00 utc | 112
LoveDonbass | Feb 9 2025 23:04 utc | 36
*** The past is written. It cannot be changed.
If you really care about the Palestinians, focus on securing their future, not revenge.***
So in your argument, the criminals should get away with mass-murder and theft?
Leaving their victims destitute….
An incentive to repeat the same behaviour over and over again.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 10 2025 19:11 utc | 113
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2025 18:28 utc | 109
Perhaps it is only me but one should not be sarcastic, farcical on such material as Genocide.
Call me whatever generic insults you desire; I did not insult yo I merely pointed out your obvious insensitivity, I didn’t demean myself to use pointless ad hominens , unlike yourself; regardless, I stand by my earlier post.
An incentive to repeat the same behaviour over and over again.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 10 2025 19:11 utc | 113
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The incentive is removed with a sovereign Palestine that can purchase air defense and build airports, as well as make mutual defense treaties.
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They say when you seek revenge first dig two graves, one for your opponent and one for yourself.
People get too hyper-emotional to make sound analyses or strategic decisions.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 10 2025 19:20 utc | 115
Some of you would have recommended the assassination of American Presidents rather than de-dollarization.
Pissing into the wind.
Sure it’s cathartic at the moment but 2 years later circumstances would have largely remained the same.
For a group of people who benefit from colonialism, some of you have no idea how to disrupt colonizers.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 10 2025 19:30 utc | 116
Denying the role of religion cannot deny the fact that the OT advocates the killing of anyone on the way of a certain group of priests with a certain ideology and ritual versus half a dozen of initially allied sects (think about the Samaritans) worshiping the same god they do.
Also you cannot deny that the NT pretends to reform a certain trend of Judaism and the OT in general.
Islam tried to find a middle way between the two and to accomodate some of the rituals and beliefs of both.
So what I say is that refusing to aknowledge your very cousins as such is not a demographic issue but brainwashing.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2025 19:33 utc | 117
You all are so pathetic, stumbled upon this forum by accident and found the most degenerate people on the planet. I hope hamas refusing to return the hostages will allow trump to turn gaza into glass.
Posted by: fuckpalestine | Feb 10 2025 19:39 utc | 118
canuck | Feb 10 2025 3:01 utc | 57
*** Jane has won her inaugural ,The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today Award” with this dizzy which calls ‘evil Genocide’ as ,’nothing personal’- of course it is, that is the exact point!!!:
“It is a demographic war.
The Zionists want to eliminate women of reproductive age and their children.
Nothing personal. Just policy.”
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2025 1:06 utc | 49 ***
Canuck has not factored in a truth underlying Jane’s post, though not actually spelled out in it …
The Jewish Zionists do not regard non-Jews as real people.
Therefore, logically (their logic), murdering any non-Jews cannot be personal even though it’s akin to kitten-strangling.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 10 2025 19:41 utc | 119
Posted by: fuckpalestine | Feb 10 2025 19:39 utc | 118
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Like Afghanistan, right? LOL
America 2025 cannot fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 10 2025 19:44 utc | 120
Macron, the Zionist lover flaunts ICC laws.
“France allowed PM Netanyahu’s plane to fly through its airspace twice, despite an ICC arrest warrant and France being legally obliged to abide by the decision, according to an investigation by Al Jazeera’s fact-checking agency.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 10 2025 20:04 utc | 121
Havent heard that discussed in the Western media although it was alluded to in Trump’s speech at the WH
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/1234/540165/Egypt/Foreign-Affairs/AlAzhar-condemns-Israeli-bill-to-rename-the-West-B.aspx
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2025 20:05 utc | 122
ZH has an interesting posting up with the title
First LNG-Laden Tanker Transits Red Sea In About One Year
It is scheduled to reach port in Turkey on Saturday. Will Occupied Palestine make the mistake of inciting Yemen before then?
Just how big a boom would that make?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2025 20:38 utc | 123
Something to file under the pot calling the kettle black, ZH has the following story
Musk Slams ‘Genocidal Lunatic’ South African Leader For ‘Chanting Kill The White Farmers’
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The chant, historically linked to Peter Mokaba, a former African National Congress (ANC) youth leader, is rooted in the anti-apartheid struggle of the 1990s. Mr Mokaba, who died in 2002, argued that it was a metaphor rather than a literal call to violence. In 2022, South Africa’s Equality Court ruled that the slogan did not constitute hate speech under the country’s legal framework.
The truth is something Musk plays with because he is rich and can. He is no better at being a human being than the Liberace grifter himself, Donald Trump.
But these guys are only following the hypocrisy of the Catholic church since the 1300’s when they embraced usury…….Hi Pope Frank! How is your monotheistic patriarchal barbarism going?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2025 20:51 utc | 124
Hamas halting the release of hostages comes pretty quickly after meeting with Khamenei…
Posted by: Rae | Feb 10 2025 20:54 utc | 125
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🚨 BREAKING | Hamas Delays Release of Israeli Captives Planned for Saturday ‘Until Further Notice’ Over Israeli Violations
Details below:
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⚡️Spokesman for the Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida, just released a statement indicating that the group intends to postpone the release of the next round of Israeli captives as a result of Israeli violations of the ceasefire terms. Full statement below:
Gaza’s government media office had shared a list of Israeli violations prior to the last captive exchange on Saturday:
1. Insufficient Aid Deliveries: The number of aid trucks that have entered Gaza remains far below the agreed minimum. Since the agreement took effect, only 8,500 trucks have entered, instead of the 12,000 required. In northern Gaza, only 2,916 trucks have arrived instead of the expected 6,000.
2. Manipulation of Aid Contents: Most aid consists of food parcels, vegetables, fruits, and secondary items like instant noodles, chocolate, and chips, instead of the urgently needed relief and shelter supplies.
3. Severe Shelter Shortages: While Gaza requires 200,000 tents and 60,000 mobile housing units, less than 10% of the needed tents have been delivered, and no mobile housing units have entered. Hundreds of thousands remain exposed to the harsh winter without adequate shelter.
4.Fuel Shortages: The agreement mandates the entry of 50 fuel trucks per day to power hospitals and essential services, yet only 15 trucks per day have entered. This has worsened the electricity crisis, paralyzing hospitals and public services.
5.Obstruction of Critical Supplies: The occupation has entirely blocked the entry of generators, spare parts, solar panels, batteries, electrical cables, and water tanks. It has also prevented coordination for partial repairs to Gaza’s water and sewage systems, according to international agencies.
6. Health Crisis: The occupation delays the entry of medical equipment, field hospitals, and essential medical supplies. It has failed to uphold its commitment to evacuating the wounded and sick. As a result, 100 critically ill children have died due to delays in medical evacuation, while 40% of kidney failure patients have died because hospitals cannot provide dialysis treatment.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1888996520424268052
Posted by: Menz | Feb 10 2025 21:06 utc | 126
Drop Site
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Basel Adra, the Palestinian journalist and activist who co-wrote and co-directed the Oscar-nominated documentary No Other Land, reports that his community in the South Hebron Hills, Masafer Yatta, is being ethnically cleansed in plain sight.
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Anyone who cared about No Other Land should care about what is actually happening on the ground: today our water tanks, 9 homes and 3 ancient caves were destroyed. Masafer Yatta is disappearing in front of my eyes. Only one name for these actions: ethnic cleansing.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1888981681119412336
Posted by: Menz | Feb 10 2025 21:08 utc | 127
AJ+
@ajplus
“The rights of the refugees do not depend on UNRWA’s existence.”
Ex-UNRWA chief spokesperson Chris Gunness spoke to AJ+ about the devastating impacts of Israel’s ban on aid for almost 6 million Palestinian refugees.
https://x.com/ajplus/status/1888756771499528691
Posted by: Menz | Feb 10 2025 21:09 utc | 128
Rae | Feb 10 2025 20:54 utc | 125–
Russian news outlet RBC reports:
The military wing of the Palestinian group Hamas will postpone the release of several Israeli hostages, scheduled for February 15, until further notice. This is stated in a statement by a representative of the movement on Telegram….
Hamas accused Israel of violating the terms of the ceasefire agreement, blocking humanitarian supplies to the Gaza Strip and delaying the opening of the road for displaced persons to the north of the exclave.
“Over the past three weeks, the resistance leadership has been monitoring the enemy’s violations and non-compliance with the terms of the agreement,” Hamas said.
Will that give Ansarallah the greenlight to resume? Other sources confirm the halt, but say nothing about it being linked to conversation with Khamenei. Al-Mayadeen reports hostage families ire at government and demand the deal be put back on track.
Jeremy Scahill
Netanyahu Is Preparing to Sabotage the Gaza Ceasefire…Again
Fresh off his triumphant trip to Washington, D.C., the Israeli leader is preparing a set of new demands for Phase 2 he hopes Hamas will reject.
Jeremy Scahill
Feb 11, 2025
From the moment Israel accepted the ceasefire deal, its Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his aides have characterized it as a limited agreement aimed at securing the release of as many Israeli captives as possible and not a comprehensive plan to end the war. Now, emboldened by his recent meetings at the White House and riding a tsunami of giddiness over President Donald Trump’s proposal for the U.S. to seize control of Gaza, Netanyahu returned to Israel on Sunday ready to sabotage the already frangible agreement and expand his forces’ siege of the West Bank.
“This trip, and the conversations we held with the president of the United States, included additional incredible achievements that can guarantee the security of Israel for generations,” Netanyahu boasted. “I am not exaggerating. I’m not overstating. There are opportunities here for possibilities that I don’t think we ever dreamed of — or at least until the last few months, they didn’t seem possible, but they are possible.”
According to the terms of the ceasefire deal that went into effect January 19, Israel and Hamas were slated to begin negotiations over the details of a second 42-day phase of the ceasefire no later than 16 days into Phase 1. The second stage envisions the release of all remaining Israeli captives in exchange for substantial numbers of Palestinians held by Israel, the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza, and the beginning of a permanent ceasefire that would pave the way for a massive multi-billion-dollar reconstruction of the Strip. Three weeks into the deal, however, those negotiations have not yet begun. Netanyahu initially refused to send a delegation to Doha, Qatar for Phase 2 talks, but after intervention from the White House, he grudgingly dispatched a delegation empowered only to discuss ongoing technical details related to the current phase, not to negotiate next steps.
Netanyahu landed in Tel Aviv claiming that Israel had made a strategic agreement with Trump and his special envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff about the positions Israel would assert in the next round of talks. Netanyahu said Monday he returned from Washington, D.C. with new plans for Gaza and that he and Trump “see eye to eye” on how to proceed. “You wanted a day after [plan]? You got one… It just doesn’t match the Oslo narrative… We won’t repeat that mistake… I’ve come back with a vision without Hamas and without the Palestinian Authority,” Netanyahu announced. Shaking his fist in a meeting at the Knesset, he declared, “We know what complete victory is and we will not give up on it.”
MORE…
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/trump-netanyahu-sabotage-ceasefire-hamas-phase-2
Posted by: Menz | Feb 10 2025 21:12 utc | 130
Menz | Feb 10 2025 21:06 utc | 126–
Thanks for the additional updates. It was a given that the Zionists would cheat and not honor the agreement, thus proving them agreement incapable. Gallant today confessed invoking the Hannibal Doctrine but lied about its extent.
IMO, the siege against Occupied Palestine must resume, and the chant Genocide Don must commence.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2025 18:28 utc | 109
Perhaps it is only me but one should not be sarcastic, farcical on such material as Genocide.
Call me whatever generic insults you desire; I did not insult yo I merely pointed out your obvious insensitivity, I didn’t demean myself to use pointless ad hominens , unlike yourself; regardless, I stand by my earlier post.
Posted by: canuck | Feb 10 2025 19:17 utc | 114
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It is incomprehensible to me that any commenter at this blog failed to grasp the point—and p.o.v.—of my post.
It was a response to a prev. commenter who asked how a pregnant woman and her unborn child could be shot.
That is precisely the demographic genocidal strategy.
Which has been pointed out by more than one commenter here.
The Zionists WANT to do away with the future generations of Palestinians, while pretending that they only want to kill Hamas members. They do not care about any individual person.
I stated that in bald terms.
I was not being farcical nor sarcastic.
Everyone on this blog knows where I stand and most are intelligent enough to understand basic rhetoric and tone.
I do not recall calling you any generic insults whatsoever. I certainly have seen others doing so.
You are now pulling this stuff out of your ass to cover your ass.
Stop playing dumb and sanctimonious pearl-clutching concern troll (not generic).
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2025 21:37 utc | 132
Posted by: fuckpalestine | Feb 10 2025 19:39 utc | 118
You “stumbled upon this forum”? Please allow us to doubt that.
Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 10 2025 21:56 utc | 133
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1888994939977023513
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
BreakingNews:
Hamas suspends all exchanges until Israel complies with the first phase of the agreement. Israel accused Hamas of violating the ceasefire, and former far-right minister Itimar Ben Gvir called on the government to order an immediate air and land assault on Gaza. Ben Gvir’s recommendations were rejected.
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1888947001015890086
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
Palestinians detained in dungeons *without charges* by the IDF look like ghosts when released, with confirmed reports of IDF rapes.
Nobody cared. 3 Israeli hostages return looking gaunt from Gaza – a place mercilessly bombed, with food blocked – and it’s a singular atrocity.
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1888947426209239532
Israeli prison guards (Jeffrey Goldberg used to be one) got caught on video gang raping Palestinian detainees.
When it happened, there were protests in defense of those IDF guards, including by Knesset members. Prominent Israelis justified rape on TV:
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 10 2025 22:00 utc | 134
Ghost of Zanon@93….in order for any conflict to become a ‘Veitnam’ it would require dense jungle foliage and buckets and buckets of 24D, there is no where to hide in Gaza, it does not exist anymore, there is nowhere to hide in the ME deserts and there are no jungles in 404…..some tree lines, but those are mostly burnt.
Cheers M
…..Trumpkunt is taking the piss out of everyone, and he knows he can fucking get away with it. He gave the impetus to steal land and openly murder Palestinians when he gave away the Temple and the Heights….wait till he gifts Russia’s old Syrian navel base to the Apartheid State, while his realtors tour Crimea…..some people never learn…..
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 10 2025 22:17 utc | 136
@135 Deniz
Adds a human touch to the discussion (as long as they finish still talking), for once it was uplifting as the current direction in Palestine has me that low …even a half hour of blues played better than I ever remember left me the same…apart from being born black I don’t know.
I keep seeing pictures of a regional war, now kind or smiling people dead.
Not good.
🙁
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 10 2025 22:37 utc | 137
Ornot@137….change up the progression, toss in a few extra beats, freestyle it…..lol.
Cheers M
….I get the low, been there for some time…..and the Genocidal Monsters Ball at the Capital yesterday did not help …..
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 10 2025 23:00 utc | 138
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 10 2025 22:37 utc | 137
Our reality is so absurd, like a dark science fiction novel; Trump adds a gallows humor to it.
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 10 2025 23:15 utc | 139
the treatment of all prisoners by the israeli supremacist gov’t, for decades now, is/has been a modern disgrace. one of its now innumerable crimes against humanity
And from what I have read, this aspect of the hated and reviled apartheid state has been well known to diplomats throughout the world, with little said and nothing done about it.
please see the 1:11 video at the links
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1888955551716896861
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
It’s all a question of who is considered human and who is considered sub-human. That’s often been the question driving many of the world’s most horrific conflicts:
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1888435269818552537
Middle East Eye @MiddleEastEye
“For 45 days I was blindfolded and on my knees.”
A Palestinian man from Gaza who was detained by Israeli forces explains his ordeal of being tortured under Israeli captivity.
Ibrahim Mohammad Khaleel al-Shaweesh, who was released in a very poor state of health, says Israeli forces used all forms of torture, including electricity and dogs.
He says that at one stage he was blindfolded, shackled and on his knees for 45 days.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 10 2025 23:58 utc | 140
Ffs Giyane.
People are racist. These people like to hide behind labels like Muslims, Jewish, Hindus, Christian and so on or other labels like black, white or male, female or rich, poor or Western, ME.
In my experience, the ones who loudly inject religion into their arguments are the least likely to be earnest in its practices.
Posted by: Suresh | Feb 10 2025 23:59 utc | 141
Bibi needs war. The optics of Hamas POWs exchange has too damaging.
Peace will see the Entity erupt in internal conflict.
The MOABs are to crush Hamas once and for all.
The constant bombings of Lebanon and Syria are to elicit a response and “justification” to go all out.
I don’t think the Genocidal Entity will wait for a response.
Posted by: Suresh | Feb 11 2025 0:07 utc | 142
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 10 2025 21:27 utc | 131
It’s just being reported that the Orange was has threatened ‘aa hell will break loos” again:
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AP: Trump says the ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas should be canceled if Hamas doesn’t release all the remaining hostages it is holding in Gaza by midday Saturday.
In comments to reporters as he signed a series of executive orders, Trump said it was ultimately up to Israel. But he warned that “all hell is going to break out” if the remaining hostages aren’t released, adding that he feared many were dead.
“I’m speaking for myself,” Trump said. “Israel can override it.”
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1889095775315255714
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 0:09 utc | 143
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 10 2025 21:11 utc | 129
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The occupation shortchanged the food and fuel trucks and only delivered 10% of the agreed-upon tents, and they delivered none of the trailer housing promised.
Hamas waited until most of the genocide troops were withdrawn before throwing a spanner in the gears.
Despite what the Zionists say, Hamas has not broken the agreement. They merely made a warning (Trump-style). Hamas won’t be in breach until they don’t notify the occupation of who they are releasing on Saturday (local time). More pressure on Bibi and his clowns to last-minute scramble as the Israeli public is on the verge of revolt after it’s been known the Hannibal directive was invoked on Oct 7th (per Yoav Gallant) and that the gaunt prisoners in the last batch made it clear that Bibi was happy to kill prisoners in Hamas’ hands with bombs and starvation.
Meanwhile, a Hamas leader spoke in Iran to the public at the event celebrating the Revolution, as Egyptian and Qatari forces are on standby as Jordan is also preparing for conflict.
If Trump doesn’t play this right, West Asia is on the precipice of an all-out war that will destroy the oil markets and wreck the global economy.
The Arab world has woken up to the reality that they will all be conquered after Trump’s statement about annexing Gaza to America.
Most of these leaders are scumbags but they all have a sense of self-preservation, which may unintentionally lead them to do the “right” thing.
The resistance continues.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:19 utc | 144
I don’t want anyone to get hurt but man do I want to see an aircraft carrier sinking on fire.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:24 utc | 145
In response to
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I don’t want anyone to get hurt but man do I want to see an aircraft carrier sinking on fire.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:24 utc | 145
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Nah, too many lives lost.
Take out a loaded LNG tanker (like the one currently in Red sea), and the message will be clear with much fewer lives lost.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 0:34 utc | 146
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 0:34 utc | 146
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I’m not looking for a big boom. Transformers movies have ruined that for me.
I want to see the quintessential symbol of the hegemon going down. Better if it takes 8 hours on fire before it finally capsizes.
The Western equivalent of the (meant to incite a color revolution) Tiananmen Square photo.
The Trump fans will be calling to “glass” Yemen or Iran. Like a cuckold shooting his wife’s lover out of shame, self-loathing, and frustration.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:51 utc | 147
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The Trump fans will be calling to “glass” Yemen or Iran. Like a cuckold shooting his wife’s lover out of shame, self-loathing, and frustration.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:51 utc | 147
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This is exactly what we don’t want, hyped response instead of, “Oh shit, what if that was a carrier?”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 1:04 utc | 148
Biden: let’s help the israelis bomb the shit out of Gaza so that its uninhabitable (aka genocide and ethnic cleansing)
Trump: Gaza is now so uninhabitable, Palestinians just won’t have the right of return (aka ethnic cleansing in support of a genocide)
https://x.com/Heidi__Matthews/status/1889024198221214163
Heidi Matthews @Heidi__Matthews
All states parties to the Genocide Convention are under a duty to take positive steps to prevent genocide once they have become aware of a serious risk that genocide will occur. Genocide is already occurring, but this is a red alert that Trumps intends to intensify it 🚨
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1888958999808143798
Prem Thakker @prem_thakker
Donald Trump, on Gaza: “…I would own this. Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It will be a beautiful piece of land.”
Q: Will Palestinians have the right to return?
Trump: No, they wouldn’t. If they have to return now, it’d be years…it’s not habitable
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 11 2025 1:23 utc | 149
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 1:04 utc | 148
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I don’t want people to die but I accept that they will.
No one is changing the world order without bloodshed. That is how it has always been, and I see nothing that makes me think this time will be different.
As that carrier is taking so long to sink, everyone can jump overboard and get rescued by the carrier support group.
I want the footage playing on a loop in the Global South for months and years.
On the other hand, trade wars and de-dollarization can accomplish the same outcome less dramatically.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 1:25 utc | 150
psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 0:34 utc | 146
*** In response to
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I don’t want anyone to get hurt but man do I want to see an aircraft carrier sinking on fire.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 0:24 utc | 145
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Nah, too many lives lost.
Take out a loaded LNG tanker (like the one currently in Red sea), and the message will be clear with much fewer lives lost. ***
The crew of an aircraft carrier are basically there as a team to kill people, once ordered.
The crew of a gas tanker are not.
Seems rather unfair to favour non-combatants being killed, in preference to harming combatants.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 11 2025 1:27 utc | 151
Alon Mizrahi
@alon_mizrahi
The biggest news item in the past 24 hours not many people are talking about: the Trump administration has greenlighted the delivery of MOABs to Israel.
The Mother Of All Bombs, as it’s called, weighs 11 tons and is the heaviest and most destructive in America’s arsenal. It is designed to penetrate and destroy deep underground bunkers.
For 25 years Israel has requested these bombs and the US said no.
This is, in effect, an American authorization of a massive strike against Iran. Personally, I welcome this scenario, as a direct and full confrontation with Iran is the only thing that can stop Israel’s murder spree, or just stop Israel, period.
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Netanyahu dreams about debilitating Iran and Normalizing with Saudi Arabia to complete Zionism’s takeover of the Middle East. Both articles of this plan are going to fail spectacularly: Israel will be destroyed in war, and no one will ever want to hear from past Zionists after it.
https://x.com/alon_mizrahi/status/1888661122489925715
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 2:49 utc | 152
I always try to look at things strategically, from both sides.
I understand perfectly well what Trump is trying to do by talking crazy and loud.
He’s trying to avoid confrontation because people get hurt in confrontations.
The problem arises when what happened in his first term occurs again. At some point, the threats must be followed through. People started to tune Trump out by his first impeachment. He barked a lot but rarely followed up with a bite.
Devout Muslims are the wrong people to threaten. They are ready to die. For many of them, dying at the hands of an oppressor may be the best thing they can accomplish in their lives. Every Muslim is called to oppose oppression. Of anyone, by anyone.
Trump has threatened West Asia so much that he’s left himself no room for retreat. I think the Ayatollah (the real power in Iran) is willing to test him, knowing that if Trump turtles, it will be a total victory for Iran. Not just versus Israel, but across the Islamic world.
Donald is playing the highest stakes game for the highest consequences.
I am fascinated right now. This could take a dramatic turn in the next week.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 3:02 utc | 153
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1888435269818552537
Middle East Eye @MiddleEastEye
“For 45 days I was blindfolded and on my knees.”
A Palestinian man from Gaza who was detained by Israeli forces explains his ordeal of being tortured under Israeli captivity.
Ibrahim Mohammad Khaleel al-Shaweesh, who was released in a very poor state of health, says Israeli forces used all forms of torture, including electricity and dogs.
He says that at one stage he was blindfolded, shackled and on his knees for 45 days.”
I hope this is going to have an effect on idiots such as Ahmad al Sharaa who looked at isr as ‘civilized’ because it was part of MB brainwashing.
Posted by: Tom | Feb 11 2025 4:19 utc | 154
I like the guys at the Duran, Alastair Crooke and Douglas McGregor, but the more Trump talks about Gaza the less and less I believe them that this is some elaborate trap for Netanyahu to prevent him from attacking Iran while Trump make a grand deal to establish official relations between Israel and the various Arab states. I think Trump has always been a Zionist and one of the conditions for him being allowed to take over the presidency again was to allow Israel to finally attack Iran, annex Lebanon and exterminate the Palestinians. US presidents usually start their new wars towards the end of their 1st year in office, so lets see what happens in another 10-12 months
Posted by: Kadath | Feb 11 2025 4:32 utc | 155
Posted by: Kadath | Feb 11 2025 4:32 utc | 155
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I am grateful for Trump. He’s bringing the West Asian world together to oppose Zionism.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 11 2025 4:36 utc | 156
RE: “Hamas halting the release of hostages comes pretty quickly after meeting with Khamenei…”
Posted by: Rae | Feb 10 2025 20:54 utc | 125
Was thinking same. As well as emergency Arab League upcoming meet.
Guessing… Iran passed intel onto Hamas, or hey, could simply be, there are no more alive “hostages”.
In any case, announcement was abrupt.
Perhaps plans (if any) are ready. Guessing Hezbollah about finished with this shit as well.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 11 2025 4:39 utc | 157
Below is a Al Manar link you have to go to see a great pic of the petulant bully
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2335995
Trump Says Palestinians Displaced by U.S. Proposal Would Not Return
We know the bully words but the pic is worth the look…..a bully who is not getting his way.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2025 4:48 utc | 158
Qatar’s duplicity in slow motion. It is a guarantor of the agreement signed between Hamas and Israhell. But it accepts any breach in the ceasefire by Israel.
Now that all the media worldwide try to put the blame on Hamas for breaching the agreement (on the release of the hostages, although it is a consequence of the multiple breaches by the Israelis) it is time for Qatar to withdraw its ambassador.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 11 2025 5:01 utc | 159
AL ’emergency’ meeting is schedumed for….. 27 Feb. Is this a joke or they know something is coming before that date?
Watching the US and Netanyahu change every word of what they have agreed as part of the ceasefire agreement (but remember that the need of that was just PR to steal a few votes from Biden and some US Arabs democratic party voters) it is clear that the Arab states expect them to overplay their hand.
In the background Musk thinks that his technopower grab is going to remain unanswered.
Talk of a triad of Dr Folamours.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 11 2025 5:07 utc | 160
…… Netanyahu announced. Shaking his fist in a meeting at the Knesset, he declared, “We know what complete victory is and we will not give up on it.”…….
Doubling down on failure. Tragic
Posted by: Exile | Feb 11 2025 5:51 utc | 161
Trump’s USrael: A Genocide Partnership
THREAD: On Monday, 10 February…
https://MouinRabbani/status/1889122150885519510
“Abu Ubaida, spokesperson of the Martyr Izz-al-Din al-Qassam Brigade, the military wing of Hamas announced that the movement was suspending further Israeli-Palestinian exchanges of captives as a result of repeated and continued violations of the agreement reached between the two in January of this year.
While Israel has indeed been violating the agreement in various ways, there is also more to the story. Most importantly this concerns Israel’s refusal to commence negotiations on the agreement’s second phase, and US President Donald Trump’s recent proposal for the forcible mass expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to the Arab world.
Responding to the announcement, in Washington Trump raised the stakes yet further: If ‘all’ the ‘remaining Israeli hostages’ are not released by High Noon this coming Saturday, he would ‘let all hell break lose’ and ‘Hamas will find out what I mean’.
What we can conclude are two things: The decision on a resumption of Israel’s genocidal military campaign will be made not be the Israeli government but by the United States…”
Silence is complicity. Resist don’t collaborate. The Great Satan indeed.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 11 2025 6:47 utc | 162
Mouin Rabbani Thread corrected from above:
https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1889122150885519510
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 11 2025 6:51 utc | 163
Sean Lee
@sean_c_lee
Trump is not the first US president to fantasize about ethnically cleansing Palestinians. From Mark Mazower’s No Enchanted Palace (p. 137).
See link:
https://x.com/sean_c_lee/status/1889196323577987332
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 6:57 utc | 164
‘Hamas Will Find Out What I Mean’ (& vid)
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1889099978154643946
“I will conceivably withhold aid for Jordan and Egypt if they don’t take in Palestinians.”
Dear Donald:
To solve the problem take the Israelis out of Palestine not the Palestinians out of Palestine.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 11 2025 7:09 utc | 166
Trump: ‘Hamas will find out what I mean…’ (& vid)
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1889099978154643846
Corrected from above.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 11 2025 7:13 utc | 167
“Insensitive”? Why pick on other posters, direct your fight to the issy Nazis. They shot and murdered a women and her unborn baby and not a word about it in any of the MSM.
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 9:05 utc | 168
One reason Trump wants to ethnically clean Gaza and Palestine is so that the charge of Genocide can be “avoided”. By hiding the bodies, letting the dogs feed, destroying the evidence, undercounting the deaths, the crime of Genocide can be hidden from the the law and from the public. “Genocide” has NO statute of limitations.
This is the aim of the Netanyhoo’s zionists. Already they are trying to eliminate the word Genocide being applied for the 450’000 to half a million deaths. (Number taken from “previous known population of Gaza” and Trumps number “to be expelled”, This number does not include those killed in the West Bank etc.)
Stone bird 169
Israel couldn’t do any of this without the full complicity of political Islam, Muslim Brotherhood , Saudi Arabia, HTS Coalition of Daesh.
Genocide has NO statute of limitations.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 11 2025 9:31 utc | 170
Trump administration has greenlighted the delivery of MOABs to Israel.
This is, in effect, an American authorization of a massive strike against Iran.
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 2:49 utc | 152
That is not confirmed at this moment. Anyway, while it’s not impossible, I don’t think they have means to safely transport then drop that thing over Iran. Is probably meant for somehwere very close or will be dropped by US/Nato.
Posted by: rk | Feb 11 2025 9:36 utc | 171
Posted by: rk | Feb 11 2025 9:36 utc | 171
I hear you, thank you.
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 9:48 utc | 172
A US Invasion Of Gaza Could Spell Israel’s End: Here’s How – Analysis
February 7, 2025
It suffices to say that if the US military invades Gaza, which is what would be required to go through with Donald Trump’s proposed ethnic cleansing, American soldiers would actually have to fight a war, unlike the Israelis who were too afraid of casualties to actually go after the Palestinian resistance in a meaningful way.
An experienced Palestinian resistance force, armed with weapons made from the countless unexploded Israeli ordinances, would face off against a US invading force that would have to navigate their way on foot through area after area and penetrate the underground tunnel systems.
American soldiers would be ambushed constantly, falling victim to sniper fire, IEDs, RPGs and round-the-clock artillery fire. If they set up checkpoints, they will likely be attacked too and if the goal is to occupy Gaza, then it will likely mean a constant stream of dead US soldiers over a period of years. While casualty counts are incredibly difficult to predict, it’s safe to say that thousands of American service members could be killed.
In order to plan such an invasion, which would likely mean deploying around 150,000 soldiers to the area, it could take around 8 months of preparations. The cost could travel into the hundreds of billions, while there is no guarantee that the plan would even work, meaning a possible US defeat at the hands of Hamas; purely based upon the ability of the Palestinian Party to survive and Gaza’s people remaining.
MORE…
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/a-us-invasioof-gaza-could-spell-israels-end-heres-how-analysis/
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 9:50 utc | 173
trump doesn’t know what he’s about to make happen.
nor does he realize the incredible & deadly risks he is exposing all US forces in the region to.
do you think hezbollah, the Houthis, Iran and all other resistance forces have been just sitting around
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1889153059692929096
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
It is the improvised foreign policy, dictatorship and ignorance of the US that encourages Benjamin Netanyahu to return to war on Gaza:
From saying he “owes Gaza” and “no right of return”,
President Trump’s ultimatum to Hamas: “If ALL prisoners are not released by noon on Saturday, the ceasefire will be cancelled and the gates of hell will be unleashed on Hams.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 11 2025 11:30 utc | 174
see the photo at the first link
https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1888606229259248080
Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده @RamAbdu
This picture should haunt the world for eternity.
How did the world allow this to happen?
-Palestinian detainee in Israel Ibrahim Al-Shawish.
https://x.com/amnesty/status/1888994145911312753
Amnesty International @amnesty
German authorities must stop their crackdown on speech and protests and the discriminatory restriction of freedom of expression and peaceful assembly.
#ProtectTheProtest ✊
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSmdAAo_EJ4
🚨Hamas SUSPENDS Prisoner Release | How Is It Connected To IRAN & ARAB States? | ALL-OUT WAR Ahead?
Mahmood OD
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/02/10/742584/Britain-former-Supreme-Court-judge-Sumption-Israel-Gaza-attacks
Former UK Supreme Court judge condemns Israel’s Gaza assaults as ‘grossly disproportionate’
Former UK Supreme Court judge Jonathan Sumption has condemned the Israeli regime’s ferocious and deadly military strikes against the Gaza Strip, describing them as “grossly disproportionate” and warning that there was “at least an arguable case” that it constituted genocide……
….Sumption’s comments echoed the concerns raised by former UK diplomat Mark Smith, who resigned in August 2024 over, what he condemned as, British “complicity” in war crimes. Smith, who worked in Britain’s Foreign, Commonwealth, and Development Office (FCDO)’s regional directorate, had been responsible for assessing the legality of UK arms exports……
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 11 2025 11:39 utc | 175
The Trumpericans and D Trump have turned the focus on – what to do with the Palestinians ?!
The real issue is – what to do with the Zionists.
The Zionists are not on their land, they are on Palestinian land.
The Palestinians are in the land they have always been in. They are trying to reclaim it because it was ruthlessly taken from them by the western-backed Zionists and the UN. They have been forced to suffer and fight for their right to life and dignity on their own land.
The Zionist project – Israel – has been the source of all problems and instability ever since it was installed on Palestinian land.
It’s interesting to observe how the world is not willing to turn the focus on the Zionists and Israel, but is instead discussing the Palestinians on Trump’s terms and at Trump’s level.
It’s really very simple – are the Palestinians the cause of the problems in the ME, or Zionist/Israel?
Posted by: JB | Feb 11 2025 12:08 utc | 176
I’m putting this here although it is very much off topic – in a way – because this seems to be the most active current thread. When b puts up another Other Topics thread I will repost it. I think it’s important to know exactly who Trump’s unelected handlers are, in addition to the gambling widow. Systematic genocidal lunacy. I hope there’s a special hell for these fuckers.
No that’s not vengeance. It’s called justice. Cheers https://scheerpost.com/2025/02/11/the-paypal-mafia-meet-the-south-african-oligarchs-surrounding-trump-from-elon-musk-to-peter-thiel/
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 11 2025 12:24 utc | 177
Quisling countries like Jordan had years and years to wean themselves off US financial aid, yet they greedily sucked up the cash just like filthy money-grubbing Jews.
They deserve what they get. Ansar Allah ought to send some missiles in their direction.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 11 2025 13:07 utc | 178
The Dutch FM,Caspar Veldkamp,reportedly does not want to meet UN Special Rapporteur for Gaza Fracesca Albanese because of her “unseemly” comments and social media messages.
Albanese is on Thursday supposed to speak to members of the foreign affairs committee and brief MPs on the current situation in Gaza. She was invited by Labour MP Kati Piri.
Albanese is supposed to visit Utrecht and Leiden universities and give a sold-out lecture at the invitation of The Rights Forum, which campaigns for the rights of Palestinians.
Three right-wing parties SCP, BBB PVV) are trying to have the visit cancelled.
The Rights Forum said that the “Israel lobby is conducting a smear campaign against Albanese”.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/02/dutch-minister-wont-greet-uns-gaza-rapporteur-telegraaf/
Posted by: JB | Feb 11 2025 13:41 utc | 179
@Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 11 2025 13:07 utc | 178
One of the dangers of war is that eventually you will become just like the instigator in nature.
Posted by: librul | Feb 11 2025 13:42 utc | 180
Gilberts @ 167 Trump May withhold aid to Jordan and Egypt if they don’t accept Palestinians. This is the lede in the 2/10 NYT story: “President Trump said on Monday that he could cut aid to Jordan and Egypt if they refused his demand to permanently take in most Palestinians from Gaza, substantially increasing the pressure on key allies in the region to back his audacious proposal to relocate the entire population of the territory in order to redevelop it.
The president also said from the White House that if Hamas did not release all the remaining Israeli hostages by “12 o’clock on Saturday,” the cease-fire agreement with Israel should be canceled.
“All hell is going to break out,” Mr. Trump said to reporters in the Oval Office, while acknowledging that the choice over ending the cease-fire ultimately fell to Israel.
Jordan and Egypt, both major recipients of U.S. military and economic aid, have rejected any suggestion that Palestinians be relocated to their countries. But Mr. Trump said on Monday that the assistance could be in jeopardy.”
In my view neither Egypt or Jordan regimes last long if the billions in U.S. aid is withheld—so this is a mafioso-like threat with unpredictable consequences if carried out. Can either Egypt or Jordan regimes resist this threat?
Trump continues to escalate. His relocation plan is reminiscent of the establishment of reservations for Native Americans in the 19th century. So is the killing of pregnant women—it was a not uncommon tactic of the US cavalry and of European settlers of the American west. Perhaps all genocides have their similarities…
Posted by: mjh | Feb 11 2025 13:44 utc | 181
Israeli officials admit Hamas has not broken ceasefire and that Israel has not sent agreed-to aid:
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Maariv newspaper, citing military sources:
The Southern Command of the Israeli army has prepared operational plans in the event of the collapse of the ceasefire agreement.
The Israeli security establishment believes that Hamas has not violated the agreement so far, and there are doubts as to whether Israel is able to take steps against it.
Estimates in Israel indicate that Hamas has no interest in returning to fighting in light of the current situation.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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New York Times quoting Israeli officials and mediators: Hamas’s talk is accurate about Israel’s failure to fulfill its promises in the first stage
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Nonetheless, Israel is preparing for the ceasefire to collapse:
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The IDF will retake control of the Netzarim Corridor, and the Rafah border crossing will be closed, if Hamas does not comply with delivering the hostages on Saturday
The IDF’s ‘Gaza Division’ has had their leaves canceled, all soldier are to report back to duty – ceasefire collapse seems imminent
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
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Egyptian president Sisi has indefinately postponed meeting with Trump:
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Al-Araby Al-Jadeed, citing an Egyptian source, reports that the planned meeting in Washington between Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi and Trump has been suspended indefinitely.
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
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Press in Turkey and Germany are saying as a fact that the US will supply MOAB to Israel. I commented on this days ago, but nobody seemed to notice. Trump and his minions have been saying this for about a week, and it appears to be true. This is crazy end of world shit:
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BREAKING: Turkish and German news outlets now reporting the US will supply MOAB bombs to Israel.
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1888679687888519207
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Posted by: teri | Feb 11 2025 14:11 utc | 182
@ Posted by: JB | Feb 11 2025 12:08 utc | 176
The thing about the Zionists is that the majority are Christian’s. Evangelicals. In the USA.
They hold a disproportionate amount of political clout due to the dysfunctional electoral college system there. They are therefore pandered to whilst also being used as cover for the Imperilaist Dynasties that set them up! How does that directly relate to what is happening in Gaza and the continued Drumpffian rhetoric? Try this :
‘ — GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 — retweeted
Nawaf Al-Thani نواف بن مبارك آل ثاني
@NawafAlThani
21h
Christian communities in Jerusalem are shrinking because of Israeli policies, but the same U.S. politicians who demand religious freedom for Christians in China and Iran say nothing.
Is defending Christian rights only important when it fits a certain narrative?
A Christian leader from Ramallah asked, “Evangelicals fought against apartheid in South Africa. Why do they support it in Palestine? Two sets of laws, segregated roads—how is this different?”
What makes Israeli policies against Palestinians “security measures,” but the same policies in South Africa were “apartheid”? ‘
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I have pointed on one of the other threads today at the collusion of the Old Imperialsits of Southern Africa , the plan of dominating The Levant to keep hold of the Greatest Continent on Earth – Africa from which they have never stopped leeching and are in the process of fighting the next continental war to retain.
Why are the scions of those mythical ‘White Tribes’ so influential at the top echelons of the Collective Waste Imperium? That’s another set of dots to join…
Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 11 2025 14:57 utc | 183
Turkish news indicates that a Turkish -Saudi alliance is resisting the Trump/Addelson Ethnic Cleansing for Condos plan. It also states that a PKK branch collapsed once USAID funds were cut in Syria.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/columns/yahya-bostan/the-us-has-withdrawn-from-that-camp-in-syria-3697993
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 11 2025 15:53 utc | 184
Even the head chopper in Syria doesn’t agree with Trump’s plan for Gaza:
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Syria’s new president, Ahmed al-Sharaa, said in an interview with a UK podcast that US President Donald Trump’s plan to forcibly displace Palestinians from Gaza and take over the Strip “is a serious crime that will ultimately fail”.
Trump has said the US will take over the Gaza Strip and develop it economically after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere. He said Palestinians would not have the right to return to Gaza under his proposal.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/syrias-sharaa-calls-trump-gaza-plan-serious-crime-bound-fail?nid=417957&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=542298
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How Israel breaks the ceasefire:
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According to Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, at least 110 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since the ceasefire, including those whom Israel denied the right to travel abroad for treatment. This is about 6 deaths per day.
These victims include both new fatalities, killed directly by the Israeli army in #Gaza, and individuals who succumbed to their prior injuries after Israel denied the right to travel abroad for treatment. Additionally, 901 Palestinians have been injured since the ceasefire, averaging 47 injuries per day.
https://x.com/EuroMedHR/status/1889274228089692669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1889274228089692669%7Ctwgr%5E330d87d1b0dbc598237d6172a78ee81e1c975db6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.middleeasteye.net%2Flive%2Flive-israeli-forces-detonate-20-homes-jenin
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Posted by: teri | Feb 11 2025 15:55 utc | 185
As Atlantis fell, America will fall.
As Atlantis was lured by greed against Athens, believing it could conquer the entire world, America will go against a tiny enemy and there it will be brought low – sinking beneath the waves never to rise again.
As tiny Athens fought against mighty Atlantis when the entire world cowered in fear, little Gaza will bring The Empire to its knees.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 11 2025 15:56 utc | 186
The genocide supporting Zionist/Atlanticist von der Leyen – is just making noise here, she like many European politicians is subservient to Washington’s agenda – she’s just making noise for the benefit of EU leaders, nothing much will come of it – for Europe’s economy is on the slide – and it will continue to go downhill, whilst she and her treacherous Zionist/Atlanticist politicians military men – kowtow to Washington.
“European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Tuesday that US tariffs on steel and aluminum “will not go unanswered,” warning that they will trigger countermeasures from the bloc.
The remarks come after US President Donald Trump stated on Monday that he would impose 25% duties on all steel and aluminum brought into the US, without exceptions or exemptions. He added that the new tariffs will be on top of the existing tariffs on metals. A White House official told Reuters that the measures would take effect on March 4.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 16:10 utc | 187
The Yankees want the thick as shit Europeans to shore the Neo-Nazi nation of Ukraine, as the Orange Yankee POTUS mulls over how to do a deal with Putin to end the conflcit in Ukraine.
Europe’s economy is on the wane – with prices rising, yet the Yankee POTUS wants Europeans to shell out and take a major economic hit – to bolster the Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine, and do you know what – EU leaders are so beholden to Washington that they’ll do it – European citizens living standards are about to plummet even further, only a revolution – in which they bring down the EU and its puppets will save them.
“Keith Kellogg, the US presidential envoy for the Ukraine conflict, will reportedly meet with European officials in the coming weeks to advance President Donald Trump’s objectives. The diplomatic campaign will reportedly kick off at the Munich Security Conference (MSC) on Friday, as the new US administration aims to recoup funds expended on the conflict in recent years.
On Monday, Bloomberg and The Telegraph described Kellogg’s plans to gather feedback from trans-Atlantic partners before finalizing a strategy for achieving a truce with Russia, citing insider sources. He is interested in Europeans’ “willingness to take the lead on providing deterrent forces to ensure that any peace settlement holds,” Bloomberg reported. Kellogg is also expected to make it clear that the US has no intention of deploying troops to protect Ukraine and wants European NATO allies to increase their defense spending.
The Telegraph claimed that Kellogg has reassured European officials of Trump’s commitment to maintaining some level of military assistance to Kiev. Concerns have been raised about the extent of Kellogg’s influence over Trump, after he reportedly said he was surprised by the president’s announcement of scheduled talks with Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 16:16 utc | 188
Marcus Aurelius wrote, “The best revenge is to not be like your enemy”
https://despardes.com/best-revenge-not-be-like-your-enemy/
We (whoever the “we” are) have been dehumanized, disempowered, and oppressed by others. We have been treated in ways which are nakedly unjust and plain wrong. But as soon as we get sufficient power, once we get control, we go onto dehumanize, disempower, oppress those who have done so to us, convincing ourselves this is justice. It is all too easy to stoop to the level of our enemy.
If we defeat our enemy by acting like them, if they succeed in bringing us down to their level, then we have lost regardless of the outcome. Maybe we survive, but we survive through degradation: we become as bad as those we revile.
The lessons of the Holocaust are obvious are they not?
Genocide is monstrously evil. So it should never be an option and also prosecuted to the fullest if it is perpetrated
or attempted.
In war, civilians suffer far more casualties than the armed combatants. So war should be the very last option not the first.
All life is sacred.
We are all Brothers.
But these are the intellectual lessons of the Holocaust and people, as Marcus Aurelius fears, can descend to
the lowest levels of their nature.
There are over a hundred Holocaust museums and memorials worldwide.
Multiple days have been set aside worldwide for Holocaust remembrance.
There are hundreds of movies that are about or include reference to the horrors of the Holocaust.
There are tens of thousands of books that are about or include reference to the horrors of the Holocaust.
There are millions of articles that are about or include reference to the horrors of the Holocaust.
The number of discussions is innumerable.
Which did all of these collectively appeal to, the intellectual lessons or the personal sense of victimization?
Their intent was clear, to teach the right lessons of the Holocaust.
But good intentions can take one down the wrong road as we currently witness.
Clearly, the narcissistic overload of appeal to victimhood has backfired
and Marcus Aurelius’ lesson not heard.
Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, the main Holocaust Museum, is a required visit for each and every
new IDF recruit. The stated goal of these visits they sum up:
is to learn “Why we fight”.
Posted by: librul | Feb 11 2025 16:22 utc | 189
This is true – but its also true that Biden did the same – it doesn’t matter who American voters vote for, whether they be a democrat or a republican both parties are the same corrupt and controlled by the very rich and those who back Zionism.
Basically America is ran by the rich and wealthy – who have their own agendas – only a revolution can change anything.
“US President Donald Trump and billionaire ally Elon Musk are seizing power in Washington “for corrupt purposes,” according to Democratic Senator Chris Murphy. The lawmaker from Connecticut accused the president of punishing his enemies and rewarding his friends in what he called “the billionaire takeover of government.””
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 16:23 utc | 190
The Orange Yankee POTUS – and his fellow Zionist buddy Netanyahu, won’t like this from Sisi – it might be time to coup him, and replace him with a more compliant puppet.
Incidentally – which countries taxpayers will pay for the rebuilding of Gaza, it won’t be Israel’s that’s for sure – my money’s on the European and US taxpayer shelling out, to rebuild Gaza – and later Ukraine.
“Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi says the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip must take place without displacing the Palestinian inhabitants.
During a phone call with Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen on Tuesday, Sisi said it was imperative that the reconstruction preserve the Palestinians’ right “to live on their land.””
According to a statement from his office, Sisi said “the establishment of a Palestinian state is the only guarantee for achieving lasting peace in the region.”
Sisi’s comments came after US President Donald Trump threatened Egypt and Jordan with suspending their aid if they do not accept the relocation of Palestinian people into the countries.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 16:38 utc | 191
With the USA having one of its largest military bases in Kosovo – (Camp Bondsteel) its unlikely that foreign and domestic US controlled NGO’s, haven’t played a part in these elections – the US created Kosovo to have a huge military presence in the heart of Europe – and in the process they created another Muslim country in Europe.
Clinton didn’t give toss about Europe, and neither does Trump – the sooner Europeans realise this – the better it will be for Europeans – and the world in general.
Sachs mentions Kosovo here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-3QssVPeg
And there’s this as well.
https://www.kosovo-online.com/en/news/politics/jeffrey-sachs-goal-nato-bombing-was-splitting-serbia-and-formation-military-base
“Polls opened in Kosovo on Sunday after a combative election campaign in which opposition candidates clashed with Prime Minister Albin Kurti over the economy, corruption and relations with the country’s old foe and neighbor Serbia.
Kurti, a leftist and Albanian nationalist, came to power in the small Balkan country in 2021 when a coalition run by his Vetevendosje party received more than 50% of votes and secured a seven-seat majority in the 120-seat parliament.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2025 17:01 utc | 192
librul | Feb 11 2025 16:22 utc | 189
*** Their intent was clear, to teach the right lessons of the Holocaust.***
Vast difference between their alleged intent and real intent.
The real one being to armour Zionist supremacism and its increasingly violent activities, while giving liberals something special with which to ceaselessly harangue, censor (complete with laws) and bludgeon the rest of the public.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 11 2025 17:53 utc | 193
After Netanyahu’s and Trump’s newest just reported statements, as well as those of the Jordanian king apparently agreeing to the expulsions of Palestinians from Gaza,
we should expect terrible developments in Gaza, the WB, and in the Middle East. Perhaps, or probably, a major war.
Netanyahu: If our hostages are not released by Saturday noon, the ceasefire will end and we will return to intensive fighting until Hamas is finally defeated.
Posted by: JB | Feb 11 2025 17:56 utc | 194
From Richard Seymour today.
It’s not going to happen. Trump repeatedly states his intention to ‘buy’ and own Gaza, take it over with US troops, expel over two million Palestinians from the strip and then turn it into a beachfront riviera for the rich. And it won’t happen.
Yes, I realise that the forced expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza is not a new idea. The Biden administration gave it a serious push at the outset of the war and sent Anthony Blinken to test the waters with Egypt and the other Arab states. Since that didn’t avail, the administration instead encouraged a military strategy that would render most of Gaza uninhabitable. But that proposition is exactly what the ceasefire deal refuted. And the idea of the US buying and taking direct military control of Gaza for “redevelopment” is on another level of derangement.
So why does he keep saying it, and why has Netanyahu returned from talks in Washington full of excitement? “I am not exaggerating,” he told his cabinet. “I’m not overstating. There are opportunities here for possibilities that I don’t think we ever dreamed of.” Why has Israel ceased negotiations for the second phase of the ceasefire for the last three weeks, resulting in Hamas delaying the release of more hostages and the likely breakdown of the ceasefire (already punctuated by regular Israeli bombings)?
Before drilling down to the specific case of Gaza, look at what Trump has been saying for the last month or so. He can’t stop talking about grabbing territory: Canada, Greenland, the Panama Canal, now the Gaza Strip. He’s talking about a Greater America. Now this idée fixe of regional territorial consolidation probably began as an accidental riff, a free association from the scum and froth that floats on the surface of his stream of consciousness, but he’s decided to run with it.
Recently, Justin Trudeau told Canadian businessmen that the threat to national sovereignty is real and is motivated by Trump’s interest in the country’s mineral resources. If that were true, it would illustrate an extreme vulgarity in Trump’s understanding of power. Since 1945, and with the decisive influence of geographer Isaiah Bowman, the US has shown that it is not necessary to ‘own’ territory in order to exploit its resources, labour supplies and markets. Even with the involution of US dollar hegemony and the relative weakening of globalisation, the US would still lose a lot more through attempted annexations — with no guarantee of success — than it would gain even if it succeeded.
Trump’s Greater America fantasy is, in the Gramscian idiom, an ‘arbitrary ideology’: it is the ‘willed’ fantasy of a sectarian leadership, corresponding to no historical necessity, bearing no relationship to a concrete configuration of force, and possessing no ability to organise human masses. Even if the Pentagon would go along with such zany schemes, much of his base would shrug at ‘owning’ Greenland and would positively dislike the idea of US troops dying for Israel. The only reason it is even worth talking about is because the most powerful man in the world is talking about it. The fact that Trump is saying it means it has effects that are not to do with its actualisation. An inert idea can, after all, be exapted for other purposes. And that, I suspect, is the situation with regard to Gaza.
Bear in mind, Israel’s fighting capacity was significantly diminished by the time Witkoff rammed through a ceasefire. According to Ha’aretz, reservists were not showing up for the last eight months. In June, just sixty percent of draftees reported for duty in some units. In November, it was reported that the total drop in reservists showing up was 15-25%. Recent reporting on Israel’s Channel 12 supposedly indicated that the number of soldiers who had died was far higher than the official estimate of 844, with 5492 Israeli families on the “bereaved families” register. I am uncertain as to the status of this figure, but it would be congruent with previous findings that the official figures hugely underestimate the number of soldiers wounded. This would be among the reasons why, though the ceasefire was opposed by the far-right in the cabinet, it was welcomed by the IDF brass. If the war went on, and Israel kept having to ‘pacify’ towns and cities it had previously deemed clear, the demoralisation, recruitment problems, injuries and fatalities would accelerate to the point of exhaustion.
Given the stalemate in Gaza, the exhaustion of military options, the comparatively greater possibilities for expansion and fascist displacement activity in the West Bank (which is scarcely defended at all), the likelihood that any postwar governance for Gaza would exclude Hamas, and the approaching ‘normalisation’ nuptials between Israel and Saudi Arabia, it would not really be in the interests of the military establishment to flirt with Trump’s inane idea. There is every possibility of strangling Palestinian statehood by other means.
Netanyahu, however, has other objectives which don’t really pertain to Israel’s traditional security logic. His main goal has been to find a way to sink this ceasefire, avoid a slide into ‘normality’, keep rolling the crisis forward, and thus disrupt any possibility of his political career terminating with his prosecution: and Trump’s ad hoc real estate fantasies gave him the means to do so. Based on Netanyahu’s amazed delight when Trump first floated this idea at a press conference, my hunch is that neither he nor Trump knew he was going to say it. Trump was probably just riffing on Jared Kushner’s old fantasy of turning Gaza into a property development zone with Trump-affiliated corporations cashing in on construction. However, I would guess that Netanyahu immediately went on a charm offensive, telling Trump what a brilliant, creative, revolutionary move this was, and how he would need to pressure the Arab states and put manners on Hamas.
It is, of course, possible that Trump is engaging in a bit of ‘madman strategy’, to coerce Arab states into doing more to assist Israel in euthanizing Palestinian statehood. In the latest Foreign Policy, former US negotiator Dennis Ross scolds the Arab states: if they want to stop ethnic cleansing, they must come up with their own plan for ruling Gaza without Hamas. Now, as he knows very well, the current plans don’t involve Hamas running Gaza. Hamas have made it very clear they’re not interested any longer in providing security for the occupier, and current talks are toward a PLO-based government. What Ross is really talking about is a plan to rule Gaza without the Palestinians: exactly what the Israeli government prefers. But this would be an extremely odd strategic gambit, since its first major effect is to turn the Arab states and most US allies against it, and to provoke Saudi Arabia into putting the ‘normalisation’ talk on hold. Its second major effect will likely be to torpedo the administration’s first diplomatic achievement, the ceasefire.
Besides, I don’t think Trump does strategy per se. He is someone who, notoriously, wings it and hopes for the best. He has some basic capitalist instincts for the manoeuvre, the heist, but he doesn’t coolly work through possibilities and calculate multifarious ends. He has people for that. He thrives on disruption, hype and creating rallying points in the hope of generating collateral opportunities. He is also as averse to the cold grip of normality as Netanyahu, for his own reasons. And he finds that the productive possibilities of arbitrariness, idiocy, willed chaos and fiction — what the kids would call “shitposting” and “doing it for the plot” — are just as strong in contemporary state-media assemblages as in the liminal world of real estate, celebrity and political power that he operated in for years. Trump mouths off, and it often has little effect. But there times, as now, when cannier operators like Netanyahu are able to work it into the grooves of their own designs. And that, I suspect, is why Trump is threatening to let “all hell break loose” in Gaza.
Posted by: JAB | Feb 11 2025 18:00 utc | 195
Its sure sounding like the ‘king’ of Jordan has capitulated to Trumps plans, just waiting on Egypt to fall in line and then the movement of 1.8million people out of Gaza will begin. Most likely beginning with the dropping of a few MOABS.
The question is what will the resistance in Iran, Iraq and Yemen do then?
Posted by: RP | Feb 11 2025 18:02 utc | 196
And lets be clear…when Trump says it will be great for the middle east, he means great for Israel
When he says it will bring tins of jobs, he means for israelis
When he says it will be a beautiful place for people to live he means for israelis to live.
Is there any possible way the ‘resistance’ coule let this plan be enacted?
Or have they also become wholly captured operations by the zionists as well.
Posted by: RP | Feb 11 2025 18:11 utc | 197
…. Bear in mind, Israel’s fighting capacity was significantly diminished by the time Witkoff rammed through a ceasefire. According to Ha’aretz, reservists were not showing up for the last eight months. In June, just sixty percent of draftees reported for duty in some units. In November, it was reported that the total drop in reservists showing up was 15-25%
Anyone have more color on these data points ?
Posted by: Exile | Feb 11 2025 18:23 utc | 198
“Trump administration has greenlighted the delivery of MOABs to Israel.
This is, in effect, an American authorization of a massive strike against Iran.”
Posted by: Menz | Feb 11 2025 2:49 utc | 152
“That is not confirmed at this moment. Anyway, while it’s not impossible, I don’t think they have means to safely transport then drop that thing over Iran. Is probably meant for somehwere very close or will be dropped by US/Nato.”
Posted by: rk | Feb 11 2025 9:36 utc | 171
I’m in agreement with RK here. I believed those bombs are intended for Hamas and Hezbollah. Sure they would use them on Iran or anybody else in the region if they could. Turkey, SA and Egypt can all defend themselves to a large degree.
So far I’m under the impression that there is little chance they could hit their targets in Iran.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 11 2025 18:31 utc | 199
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-official-ceasefire-deal-will-be-halted-unless-9-hostages-are-freed-in-coming-days/
Ladies and Gentlemen! Behold! I give to you …
Trumpenyahoo!
The ultimate blend of two genocidal, maniacal, egotistical freaks! Watch as the half-Jew, half-Orange Jesus kills off a crummy ceasefire then restarts the slaughter! This time, with MOABs.
Start your genocidal engines!
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 11 2025 18:35 utc | 200