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February 6, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-026

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 7 2025 14:19 utc | 100
Jared’s slimey deals includes the Abraham accords. Which promotes good Muslims v bad muslims. Good Muslims being the ones that bend the knee to colonialism and police the bad Muslims in their countries.
The Palestinian authority police force being an example of what they call good muslims. Muslim leaders that jail those Muslims who support Gazza.
Straight out of the divide and conquer, third Reich handbook.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 14:33 utc | 101

see the 2:45 video, of a western reporter, and Noam Chomsky teaching him a few things about The Empire, at the third link
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1836094875244056715
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
if Hamas, Hezbollah, or any group or person exploded electronic devices in Israel and killed children, it would be described by the entire Western media class as a horrific act of wanton evil sadistic terrorism. Israel does it and it’s seen as an epic based move to be celebrated
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1836096806997893153
what is the difference between killing children and civilians by intentionally exploding devices meant to kill them, and doing it by shooting or bombing them?
There is no difference.
It’s the same act of mass murder, of actual terrorism.
But because Israel does it with Western arms, funding, weapons and intel it’s epic and based and we all have to celebrate it as such
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1836125146425242008
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
a Zionist Western media class “reporter” asks (Noam Chomsky): “What is the difference between terrorism and counter-terrorism?”
The answer: “Very simple. If they do it it’s terrorism, when we do it it’s counter-terrorism. Now you can find that in the Nazi archives too.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 7 2025 14:38 utc | 102

@teri | Feb 7 2025 13:17 utc | 95
Thanks for that. Figs appear realistic.
The psychological damage must also be quite devastating as its entire population turns into a rabid mob. Not a very attractive destination.
Any update on the real state of its economy?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 7 2025 14:43 utc | 103

DunGroanin@96
“Hold your enemies close
Hit first and hit them hard
Etc etc”
That didn’t work. Why? Because the Resistance succumb to the peace niks, show restraint, hold back, that’s was preached from on high. It failed, miserably.
When is a loss a loss…..or wait till the next appeasement restraint death cycle resumes….in our life time?
Will new history be made by the rest of the world while Palestinians fade to annals of the history books and museums?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 7 2025 14:45 utc | 104

Excerpt from the latest executive order:
„Neither country has ever recognized the ICC’s jurisdiction, and both nations are thriving democracies with militaries that strictly adhere to the laws of war.“
Israel and the USA are meant.
„Thriving democracies“ … „militaries that strictly adhere to the laws of war“
What a shitshow.

Posted by: NoName | Feb 7 2025 14:46 utc | 105

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 7 2025 14:19 utc | 100
You can see it everywhere it is a very co – ordinated attack. Just look at the right populists movement around the world. Somebody is writing their scripts and funding it.
Every right wing populist leader are singing from the exact same song sheets. It doesn’t matter what country you are in. You can virtually tick off the buzzwords that get the sheep very excited.
They all meet up CPAC the The Conservative Political Action Conference in the US. Are given their orders and implement their strategy.
This right wing populist leader movement and their think tanks and social media presence are directed from the US.
It is just the continuation of the decade long strategy of the liberal left destroy the left making it something you can’t vote for and keep moving everybody rightwards.
How they achieved to keep moving the Overton window to the right. The sheep are taken in by it, as it has been given a new name populism. With disco lights that pretends to be something new and anti establishment. Pretends to represent the workers.
They are as racist as they have ever been and closer to facism than people freely admit. Which is what always happens if you keep moving the Overton window forever rightwards.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 14:54 utc | 106

Son of Alabama has just won his 9th ,”The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today”, with another absurd statement about currency:
“The US is the MONOPOLY issuer of the $. It is fully sovereign and ” issues ” it’s own currrency. Your taxes didn’t pay for one cent of it.”
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 12:17 utc | 92
Every Sovereign is the monopoly of it own currency, Dumbo.
The US treasuries carry the most interest in the Western world, that’s because as the Fed prints money out of nothing-‘Aliquid ex nihilo” interest rise as the currency get diluted.
You are one stupid, fucking moron.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 7 2025 14:58 utc | 107

Posted by: canuck | Feb 7 2025 14:58 utc | 107
Thanks for proving my point once again in public that you are indeed a brainwashed fool.
“Every Sovereign is the monopoly of it own currency, Dumbo.”
It is unbelievable you could claim such a thing. How stupid are you on a scale of 1-10?
You better tell every country in the Eurozone who use a foreign currency ( the euro) how sovereign they are and how they are the MONOPOLY of their own currency after giving their own monopoly currencies up.
Then you can move into Africa and tell all the African countries who use the French CAC. How sovereign they are and how they are the MONOPOLY of their own currency.
Then phone all of the countries who have fixed exchange rates with other countries. I’m sure they’ll be happy to listen to your packaged bullshit. Phone the countries who have a dirty peg with other countries just to inform them how dumb you are.
You see what you continually fail to grasp in public as you seethe through your gold standard , fixed exchange rate lens. Is every country has a different level of sovereignty dumbass.
These different levels of sovereignty determine IF they are indeed monopoly of their own currencies.
Or are you really that dumb on a scale of 1-10 that you didn’t even notice that. Especially when you understand Russian history and what a HUGE difference it made to their sovereignty When they moved from fixed exchange rates to a freely floating exchange rate.
Now jog on and howl at the moon where you belong. You stupid, stupid ,stupid, goldbug. Go and sell your packaged bullshit somewhere else. I ain’t and never will by your packaged insanity.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 15:21 utc | 108

https://x.com/caitoz/status/1887657056834126009
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Really sit and contemplate how creepy and frightening it is that civil rights are being systematically dismantled throughout the western world in the name of protecting the information interests of a genocidal apartheid state in the middle east.
https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1887632785378021455
Richard Medhurst @richimedhurst
I was detained this week by the Austrian police and intelligence services.
They raided my house, office, and took all my devices.
They are accusing me of being a member of Hamas and threatened me with 10 years in prison.
Journalism is not a crime.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 7 2025 15:25 utc | 109

Al Manar has a posting up about a US Special Envoy Morgan Ortagus who was sent to Lebanon to lecture the new President Joseph Aoun

Special Envoy to the Middle East Morgan Ortagus who said that Washington has set a “red line” over participation of Hezbollah in the new government.

This “dictation” was not taken well and later in the day

Later on Friday, the Lebanese Presidency Press Office issued a statement in which it said: “The presidency is not concerned with some of remarks made by US deputy Middle East envoy Morgan Ortagus in Baabda.”

It is telling that the Trump team sent a TV personality woman [looks like jewish husband] to Lebanon to lecture Aoun……The Hollywood form of statecraft being perfected by the Trump team….are you impressed?…/s

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2025 15:37 utc | 110

Posted by: canuck | Feb 7 2025 14:58 utc | 107
I never even mentioned those that have foreign debt and those that don’t that again determines what level of sovereignty they have. Doesn’t give them full sovereignty over their currencies.
Michael Hudson has just published an excellent article about just how un sovereign the global South are. When Trump introduces his tariffs. Just how un sovereign the global South are in General.
But you will be too stupid to understand it. Spitting feathers through your gold standard fixed exchange rate lens.
When Spain issued the Peso it was the monopoly issuer of its own currency. When Germany issued the Mark it was the monopoly issuer of its own currency.
All of the Euro using countries gave their full sovereignty up. So did African countries that use the French CAC.
They used to be like Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, UK, US. Fully sovereign nation states who were the monopoly issuers of their own currency.
Now they can’t issue their own currency freely. Now they use a foreign currency the Euro. Have to borrow Euros from the ECB or get the Euro’s from taxes.
Or are you soooooooooo stupid your gold standard, fixed exchange rate lens can’t see that.
EVEYBODY at the bar understood Michael Hudson ‘s article and what it meaans.
Here:
https://michael-hudson.com/2025/01/the-road-to-chaos-a-global-balance-of-payments-war/
Everybody but you it seems because you belong in a travelling circus Canuck. Government spending, bank lending, central banking, trade, tariffs, deficits, debts, sovereignty.
Are all a foreign language to you Canuck. Or in Braille as your gold standard, fixed exchange rate lens has blinded you in bullshit. You are up to your eyebrows in it.
In public as well without remorse or regret. Never admit when you are wrong. An ideological driven sociopath.
Finally Canuck …..
Your gold standard, fixed exchange rate pal in Argentina who spits feathers through the same lens as you.
What did your pal say… ” Argentina is going to adopt the US dollar ”
He is going to join 11 foreign nations and territories use the U.S. dollar as their official currency of exchange. Including….
Commonwealth of Puerto Rico
Guam
American Samoa
Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
Turks and Caicos
Ecuador
Republic of El Salvador
Marshall Islands
Bonaire
Sint Eustatius
Saba
“Every Sovereign is the monopoly of it own currency”
My arse !!!!!!
You maniac.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 15:53 utc | 111

The Cradle has Pepe Escobar’s latest posting up that barflies may wish to read instead of the textual white noise by assholes/children that come to the MoA bar to trash the place and not add value.
https://thecradle.co/articles/in-valdai-confronting-the-american-problem-in-west-asia

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2025 16:03 utc | 112

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2025 15:37 utc | 110
Morgan Ortagus was dispatched to Lebanon to display that the US is already Great, and that it determines who can be in the Lebanese government as a matter of US red lines.
To utter dismay, she thanked Israel, and the Lebanese people, for defeating Hezbollah!
Pretty surreal.
Do watch: https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: JB | Feb 7 2025 16:05 utc | 113

Sun of Alabama@111……small quibble, any country that has the Figure Head of another country stamped on their coinage, ie. Canada, Australia, New Zealand and many smaller countries world wide, they are not, and have never been, Sovereign.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 7 2025 16:10 utc | 114

Posted by: JB | Feb 7 2025 16:05 utc | 113
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Logic has no place in Imperial thinking.
That, IMO, is why Empires eventually collapse.
Morgan is a pretty face on an ugly agenda. Trump has always been a master of the sizzle, rather than the steak.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 16:10 utc | 115

…The jurisdiction applicable to online content is very variable still…
In reality, content here is moderate and b is sensible. The use of the phrase “Hostility towards israel” is ominous all the same, for lack of definition. “Hostility” is a catch all, could go from saying “F- israel” through to more explicit incitement. Just obscure enough for some busy people to try to make an examples of some, even if only to set the bar by eventually dismissing the cases.

@Posted by: Ornot | Feb 7 2025 3:09 utc | 63
Thanks for your post and your efforts.
Intimidation through Zio lawfare is such profound irony.
[as recounted in Israeli court records:]
During WWII, Zionists sought silence when they intimidated other Jews
into keeping their mouths shut about the trains to Auschwitz.
Zionists, trusted leaders in the Jewish community, knowingly tricked hundreds of thousands of Jews
onto the trains to Auschwitz. Intimidation of those that sought to warn others about the plot,
was one of the Zionists tools.
Treachery, betrayal and intimidation then,
treachery, betrayal and intimidation now.

Posted by: librul | Feb 7 2025 16:11 utc | 116

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Your forgot Saudi Arabia which jailed pro-Palestinian demonstrators, banned the wearing of the keffiyeh and pro-Palestinian manifestations of any sort.
Sorry I didn’t keep the sources.
Posted by: JB | Feb 7 2025 13:40 utc | 97
I didn’t bother mentioning Saudi because any news from there is ruthlessly suppressed.
Any hint of protest there would be crushed before it’s even planned.
There were no protests there because the satanic cult that rules over the Kaaba throttled it at birth.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 16:22 utc | 117

As for those who responded to my post about compensation for destruction to Gaza, I was in part being merely rhetorical, sadly!!! but in the “I have a dream” category perhaps there can be a group of fearless attorneys who can sue Izzyhell and the Evil Empire for damages, actual and putative.. . .
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 7 2025 14:19 utc | 100
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It was recently reported on Fox News that Trump is starting an imbroglio with South Africa about its Expropriation Act. I do not support expropriating the farms of white South Africans, but it is of course absolutely absurd for Trump to get his panties in a twist over PROPERTY RIGHTS in South Africa.
It would also be absurd for South Africa to FAIL to use this PERFECT opportunity to call out Trump on the international stage and tell him to his face that until he recognizes PROPERTY RIGHTS in Palestine he has LESS THAN ZERO to say about PROPERTY RIGHTS anywhere else on earth, including South Africa. Intervening in South African domestic policies in the cause of PROPERTY RIGHTS make him a worldwide laughingstock and poster boy for massive hypocrisy.
Why doesn’t someone stand up in the UN and ask Mr. Trump what doesn’t he understand about PROPERTY RIGHTS?
Is he planning to transfer and resettle residents of North Carolina, expropriate their property, and then redevelop it for someone else?
To me this looks like a no-brainer.
It should be hammered on repeatedly by advocates for Pal rights that Palestinians are property owners.
That is the only thing Trump (and many others) understand.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 7 2025 16:23 utc | 118

It was recently reported on Fox News that Trump is starting an imbroglio with South Africa about its Expropriation Act. I do not support expropriating the farms of white South Africans.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 7 2025 16:23 utc | 118
There was never any expropriation of white owned farms.
That was propaganda whipped up by the racist Afrikaners bitter over the loss of their status as ubermenschen.
There was a very careful program to redress the injustice of the Apartheid Group Areas Act.
In fact, the new South African government failed in it’s duty to redress the injustice of the GAA.
They should have confiscated 90% of the property of everyone who had profited from apartheid.
Just as we would expect should be done in Palestine once this new Apartheid regime is torn to the ground.
What would you say if Palestine was declared “liberated” tomorrow but 70% of the industries and land left in the possession of the Zionists?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 16:35 utc | 119

What would you say if Palestine was declared “liberated” tomorrow but 70% of the industries and land left in the possession of the Zionists?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 16:35 utc | 119
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I guess I didn’t explain my main point very well.
[(:()]

Posted by: Jane | Feb 7 2025 16:37 utc | 120

Pepe at JudgeNap: what no one discusses is that the deal offered by Trump to the EU is 1)US will stop destroying the countries around the Mediterranean sea (by colour revolutions, hunger, refugees exodus); 2) the US will not escalate in Ukraine anymore; 3) the conveyed the old French plan of religious partition of Lebanon (despite the fiasco of tge same in Iraq) by sending their envoy who stated today that they do not accept any member of Hezbollah in the future government. The whole boasting today in the media (via al jazeera reporting some israeli declarations and via the bbc) about the pagers operation and the obscene gift by Trump of a golden pager to the chief of these monsters is rather yet another step in the war launched by the US on Europe at the end of 2010 (via the Arab spring). Their lackeys then were called Blair and Sarkozy and they immediately joined the bandwagon so that no one in the EU could think twice.

Posted by: Tom | Feb 7 2025 16:49 utc | 121

The above is what Pepe or any other guest discusses. One can add that the plan is the one Kushner offered to MbS 4 years ago so they knew it was coming (what else would justify the pagers operation).

Posted by: Tom | Feb 7 2025 16:55 utc | 122

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 16:35 utc | 119
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I pay a lot of attention these days to African news.
Apparently the land issue is that 80+% of the land in SA is owned by the minority white population which may be as small as 10%.
The government, in the interest of serving the people, has to balance this colonial injustice.
The reason the Trump admin is gunning so hard for SA now is that they have brought apartheid charges against Israel.
The land disputes were happening under Trump’s first admin and he said nothing about it.
That SA is in BRICS frustrates Trump in that outside of aid he has no leverage on them to withdraw their very credible apartheid claims.
The South Africans are known throughout the continent as being very stubborn. They will double down on Israel. As happens too often when it comes to non-white countries, Trump misreads the room. He assumes everyone is a degenerate capitalist as many Americans are.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 17:00 utc | 123

Thanks for your service Bibi, it’s not about you or your Eastern European nut job buddies, it’s about Wall Street. A crack in the vase.

Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 7 2025 17:01 utc | 124

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 7 2025 16:10 utc | 114
No worries buddy,
He simply can’t be that stupid Sean. I think what he is actually trying to do is get me banned.
He’s never won an open honest debate on here like others who debate in good faith and everybody learns off each other.
He just comes back for more and more throwing insults at me no matter how wrong he has been in the past. An a typical libertarian gold bug.
I know I sometimes I can take threads off topic..it is as if he is deliberately bating me to do it.
Nobody here is that stupid surely and actually believes his view of the world. ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 17:04 utc | 125

And no one asked Trump where he plans to put the rubbles: on Musk’s planet Mars or in the Saudi desert?

Posted by: Tom | Feb 7 2025 17:08 utc | 126

Historically, Israel’s casualties have been in a ratio of 1 to 100. Prior to the ceasefire I was speculating that Hamas hadn’t incurred more than 4,000 kia.
If this figure of 6,000 Kia Israeli troops is correct that is quite notable. That figure is 1.5 to 1. The standard rule of thumb is 3 to 1.
This is in context of resisting and occupying power. It demonstrates or quantifies how Hamas was able to neutralize the Israeli advantage on the battlefield.
Numerically though that is less than a full division. Although I understand they are overstretched I also find it odd they can tolerate such few losses. Perhaps not odd because it speaks to who they are.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 7 2025 17:09 utc | 127

Be ready to be further disappointed! It is nice to have something in common; I’m (perpetually) disappointed in me/myself as well! 🙂
As can be clearly seen in my previous comment I was commenting on the taxi driver and the claims about the “muslim world” but the argument can (and should) be made in general so I don’t mind.
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It is a self-defeating argument to claim that those __thousands__ of people that protested thought (or cared) that they couldn’t: they protested anyway and the vast majority didn’t suffer anything at all.
It is clearly false to argue that it stopped them from protesting!

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So the point I was making stands even stronger based on your quotes. So then what? What’s left?
Beware of narratives discouraging people from acting, don’t buy into it.
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The opens a larger topic that is even more general and not only related to Palestine but to everything and how people’s good intentions are used against themselves.
Narratives such as the one that is now essentially debunked are very often not in any way “accidental” narratives but instead crafted to discourage, to corral, to manipulate, and to misdirect both focus and effort. This approach is not new and has been around and used repeatedly for many decades on any number of topics.
Notice who it is that are peddling those narratives while pretending to be “supportive”.
If anyone thinks such “things” as Reuters, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and Usian talking heads are trustworthy or supportive then it is them who hasn’t kept up, not me.
It is precisely the same as with USAID being named something which most people would read and misunderstand as “US aid” when it is nothing of the kind, it is plain deception where a little bit (over time as little as possible) of truth is used to hide everything else and all the ulterior motives.
The deceit works over and over again 🙁
Propaganda outlets and NGOs use and abuse sources that may or may not be sincere, truthful, and relevant, but to find that out and to what degree it is true you have to walk into and trigger the trap by using your time and effort that probably should be used on something else.
That trap (still!) works 🙁
So I encourage everybody to be more aware of and remember these things.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 7 2025 17:10 utc | 128

Trump is breaking the law by banishing Palestine.
As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 146 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 7 2025 17:11 utc | 129

Trump’s outrageous claims about seizing Gaza have brought the genocide back into focus globally.
I have no idea what happens, or when, but the walls are starting to close in on Israel.
IIRC, the EU may have just officially recognized the genocide as a genocide. Whether they do anything about it, remains to be seen. I don’t trust white politicians to display moral courage. Until they do, it’s all talk.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 17:13 utc | 130

Today’s Electronic Intifada podcast is excellent. More to the point than some of the Judge guests.

Posted by: Tom | Feb 7 2025 17:20 utc | 131

Posted by: canuck | Feb 7 2025 14:58 utc | 107
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 15:53 utc | 111
Could you two get a room and quit cacking up every thread with this tedious back and forth over monetary systems?
It is consistently always off-topic.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 7 2025 17:29 utc | 132

By now DOGE must have all the proofs of the bribes paid to EU top politicians to follow on covid mismanagement and mass psychosis plus vaccination. No wonder why they are mute.

Posted by: Tom | Feb 7 2025 17:30 utc | 133

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 17:13 utc | 130
I sincerely hope you are right. I hope the walls choke them.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 17:31 utc | 134

Wall Street is not going to cede control of Middle East Oil, to a medieval cult, run by a bunch of fanatical Eastern Europeans. The money and the Zionists were aligned, but Netanyahu became too crazy, so now Trump is explaining to Netanyahu how this relationship really works.

Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 7 2025 17:36 utc | 135

Intimidation through Zio lawfare is such profound irony.
@Posted by: librul | Feb 7 2025 16:11 utc | 116
I should mention a time when it backfired BIG TIME for the Zios.
A curmudgeon in 1950s “Israel” was handing out pamphlets
trying to make people aware of the Zio betrayal during WWII.
If you are old enough to remember the creation of copies in the 1950s
these pamphlets were classic material. Oily to the touch, and
unappealing font. You would not want to touch one of these
unappealing pamphlets. The almost-broke curmudgeon paid for them himself
and handed them out himself in cafes and street corners.
This was the alternative for the internet back then.
But the pamphlets caught the attention of the government, as
they criticized an official in the government – R Kastner.
Kastner would have preferred to keep his head down, but the
government went ahead on his behalf and sued the poor curmudgeon.
The lawsuit opened up a can of worms that some would have wished had
been buried. The government lost their case*, but worse than that
now the humongous betrayal by the Zios during WWII was part of the
court record and discussed and debated widely in 1950s “Israel”.
If the “Israeli” government hadn’t sued the curmudgeon it is very
likely that you wouldn’t be reading about their treachery now.

* the government, after loosing in the first case, kicked it up
to the Supreme Court of Israel for a whitewashing. The Supreme
Court ruled that the treachery was alright to do!: “the Jews
of Hungary weren’t worth saving.” ! [A judge actually uttered
these words!]

Posted by: librul | Feb 7 2025 17:45 utc | 136

Trump is not going to be anyones ideal president. Is he going to support Israel? Of course. Strongly. He can not afford to just let Netanyahu proceed with the ethnic cleansing. Harris was openly advocating a two state solution. Was she honest who knows. In the USA there is widespread agreement, the ethnic cleansing must stop. There is widespread agreement in the world. Trump can no let Netanyahu proceed with the ehnic cleansing. What Trump has set up with the ceasefire agreement is a reurn to the staus quo in Gaza. Besides that Israel can do what it wants. In particular I think the west bank will not be considered.
Israel has achieved many goals in the past 14 months. The abandonment of Lebanon south of the Litani by Hezbollah. Annexation of significant water resources and security outposts in Syria. The question is can Israel be convinced to accept these achievements and proceed with the cease fire agreement?
Trump is much more popular than Netanyahoo in Israel, Netanyahu can not just say Trump does not support Israel. Its not true for one thing. the ethnic cleansing can not proceed. That means the coalition will not hold. Trump has left Netanyahu with a impossible task. Trump will never abandon Israel. There is zero chance of that. Gaza has to go back to the status quo. Theres too much at stake. Houthis have stood down. Hezbollah has stood down. Hamas has stood down. All because Trump told Israel they had to accept this cease fire. If Netanyahu breaks it he is out. Maybe Galant will return. Trump will never abandon Israel. One way or another this cease fire will proceed.

Posted by: jimmyjohn | Feb 7 2025 17:47 utc | 137

I have been seeing a bunch of so called ‘conservatives’ of r/conservative now claiming that Palestinian supporters MUST be paid agents. This comedy just writes itself. You think I’m a paid agent? You can fuck right off. Of course this is all the fallout of the USAID nonsense.

Posted by: anon | Feb 7 2025 17:53 utc | 138

Trump will never abandon Israel.
Posted by: jimmyjohn | Feb 7 2025 17:47 utc | 137
It’s just business.

Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 7 2025 17:56 utc | 139

Just trust President Donald Trump. He is a good person at heart and wants to help the Palestinians.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 7 2025 18:37 utc | 140

The IDF thinks that sending more troops into Gaza is part of the cease-fire deal. It’s an interesting take on the common interpretation of “cease-fire”, but then so is continuing to kill people, which is something Israel has done every day since the cease-fire started.
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The Israeli army on Friday announced the redeployment of three of its military divisions at several fronts in the Gaza Strip in preparation for the implementation of the second phase of the ceasefire agreement that took effect on Jan. 19.
In a statement, the army said its 162nd, 143rd and 99th divisions were deployed “to strengthen the defense for civilians living in the western Negev” area and Israel in general.
It noted that the redeployment measure in Gaza comes in preparation for the next step of the ceasefire agreement with the Hamas group.
The statement did not specify the exact locations of the redeployment. However, under the ceasefire agreement, on the 22nd day of its implementation, the Israeli army is required to withdraw from central Gaza’s Netzarim Corridor, which separates the north from the south, to an area near the Gaza border.
On Thursday, Israeli media reported that an Israeli negotiating team will travel to Qatar on Saturday to restart talks with Hamas on a ceasefire and hostage exchange deal.[…]
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-redeploys-3-military-divisions-in-gaza-ahead-of-ceasefires-2nd-phase/3475394
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Posted by: teri | Feb 7 2025 19:34 utc | 141

Col Lawrence Wilkerson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeRsH7u_-Fw
“Will US troops fight in Gaza?”
Pepe Escobar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehFIpGcHA7s
“World reacts to Trump on Gaza.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 7 2025 19:43 utc | 142

Just trust President Donald Trump. He is a good person at heart and wants to help the Palestinians.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 7 2025 18:37 utc | 140

Whatever drug you are on, it is causing you severe hallucinations. Please quit.

Posted by: jure | Feb 7 2025 19:52 utc | 143

138 – Venal themselves, they assume everyone else must be.

Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 7 2025 19:52 utc | 144

Just trust President Donald Trump. He is a good person at heart and wants to help the Palestinians.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 7 2025 18:37 utc | 140
I dont trust him, it would not suprise me at all if we see US boots on the ground in Gaza this summer to ethnically cleans the Palestinians. But, I dont think it will be a Fallujah because the US regime change propogandists have failed to create a boogey man out of Hamas and the world is sympathetic with Palestine. Like Obama, Trump is a narcissist, who feeds off the adulation of the public, which limits his options. This is different than Biden, Cheney or Clinton who are sociapaths that dont care what the public thinks.

Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 7 2025 20:01 utc | 145

Apparently the land issue is that 80+% of the land in SA is owned by the minority white population which may be as small as 10%.
The government, in the interest of serving the people, has to balance this colonial injustice.
The reason the Trump admin is gunning so hard for SA now is that they have brought apartheid charges against Israel.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 17:00 utc | 123
F*uck that verkrampte Musk who has the Orange One’s ear with Nazi propaganda.

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:06 utc | 146

Jehad Abusalim جهاد أبو سليم
@JehadAbusalim
People in Gaza are still collecting the skulls and decomposed remains of their children from beneath the rubble, while some fantasize about building a resort on their mass graves, and others gloat over a minority that refused to vote for the party that enabled a genocide. Sick
https://x.com/JehadAbusalim/status/1887330585544114443

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:10 utc | 147

Mariam Barghouti مريم البرغوثي
@MariamBarghouti
The West Bank serves as an exemplary case of how international journalists were never interested in covering what’s happening to Palestinians.
Journalists claimed that Israel barred them from entry to Gaza and that’s why they couldn’t cover.
They can, however, enter the West Bank and yet somehow I’m not seeing any international journalists on the ground.
Malpractice doesn’t even cut it. This is active concealment of crimes against humanity in real time.
This is aiding and abetting a genocidal regime, while spreading disinformation about the reality of Palestinians.
https://x.com/MariamBarghouti/status/1887627277485187229

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:11 utc | 148

Education is Resistance
Malaka Shwaikh
London Review of Books
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2025/february/education-is-resistance

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:14 utc | 149

WikiLeaks
@wikileaks
Australian Senate passes new “hate speech” law, with 12-36 months mandatory minimums for threatening hate speech, including for unintentional “reckless” speech, after pressure from Jewish groups ahead of the 2024 federal election. The move comes after concern about threats to Jewish schools and the chant “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free”.
https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887797191562957146

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:16 utc | 150

Justin Fishel
@JustinFishelABC
Rubio to Trump during a 2016 presidential debate: “The Palestinians are not a real estate deal, Donald.”
https://x.com/JustinFishelABC/status/1887605955031900405

Posted by: Menz | Feb 7 2025 20:20 utc | 151

….. In a statement, the army said its 162nd, 143rd and 99th divisions were deployed…….
All three units badly mauled already. It’s difficult to fathom what the Likudniks believe these Sad Sacks will accomplish in a second round.
The Nahals belong to the 162nd. The Nahals were left alone to suffer in the infamous N. corridor. Many believed the Nahals were left alone because of prior shabby performance.
The 143rd is made up of punishment units; known for mainly its utter failure in the Al Aqsa Raid. From Wiki:
…… In October 2023, the division was part of the Battle of Re’im where Hamas temporarily took control of the Re’im Army Base and had taken several Israeli soldiers captive, resulting in the death of Lt. Col. Sahar Makhlouf….
The Weekend warriors of the 99th specialized in rooting out terrorists .

Posted by: Exile | Feb 7 2025 20:27 utc | 152

Wall Street is not going to cede control of Middle East Oil, to a medieval cult, run by a bunch of fanatical Eastern Europeans. The money and the Zionists were aligned, but Netanyahu became too crazy, so now Trump is explaining to Netanyahu how this relationship really works.
Posted by: Deniz 152 | Feb 7 2025 17:36 utc | 135
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Wall Street is not about to give up control over anything. Soros, Bill Gates and the other billionaire ‘dogooders’ like them are a thorn in their side, likely.
Wall Street is also my own shorthand for what karlof1 calls ‘oligarchs.’ Works either way.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 7 2025 21:11 utc | 153

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 4:02 utc | 67
They will not wake up as it would ask them to face the ugly nightmare of the kakistocracy they helped create with their complacence and wrongly held beliefs that they are exceptional, just like the cursed zios in a cursed settled land. So much similarities between both of these two people.
You are asking them to face their own ugliness, their own rotten face in this world and it is too much for them.
But all of us in the world see them and laugh at them, they are beyond despicable. This picture of the two sick and rotten bastards: Trumpinstein and the genocidal bastard from Israhell- well it made me laugh honestly today.
One an absolute idiot ( Trumpestain), the other tortured obviously by the prostate cancer pins and needles ( may he suffer millions of burninghot needles in his pr…ck and ass for eternity, while accompanied by the screams of the murdered.
As they think they have any power left?
Mad mad they are.
And it is very silly to devote any more time to these two stinking characters.
Honestly, they mean nothing, USA kakistokracy as well means nothing now, and the world moves on, minus the rotten stinking and evil part, USAins and the socalled west.
Thank you all who really contribute, such as terry, Exile, Ornot etc….
Stop wasting time on USA, it is a waste, USA is gone, means nothing anymore…
To spend anymore time on analyzing their stinking regime is a waste of time.
The most important now is the Palestine.
Keep your eyes on Palestine.
From the river to the sea…
SFSN

Posted by: stranger | Feb 7 2025 21:14 utc | 154

I have no idea what happens, or when, but the walls are starting to close in on Israel.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 17:13 utc | 130

Since Oct 7th 2023, I’ve heard it in MoA from all sides: Israel is about to disappear from the map. I’ve since tried to get behind the reasoning of these posters – to no avail. To the contrary, Israel has become ever stronger, resulting from its terrorist techniques (like the pager explosions), the regime change in Damascus, and now Trump playing on the same fiddle as Netanyahu. The plans for a greater Israel start looking more and more realistic.
While I would certainly welcome the demise of the small Satan, rather sooner than later, I must say that the MoA mainstream’s performance in predictions, relating to both the big and the small Satan, is really poor, disappointing. My predictions are better: at least I was able to see that a solution to the Gaza crises will not come without (partial or complete) resettlement.

Posted by: grunzt | Feb 7 2025 21:18 utc | 155

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 6 2025 16:58 utc | 10
When I first read about Sabra and Shatila, I was 16, still living in my home country of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia has had no relationship with ‘Israel’ whatsoever because they were an apartheid entity.
Since then I despise the settler abomination and absolutely practice BDS, now I have enlarged it to all of the USA, EU as well.
I have Huawei at home, it is superb as most of Chinese electronics, no household products but from ex YU, or home, only local food etc etc…
If you can do something, you can boycott.Choke them to death.
Here:
https://x.com/BDSmovement
I also make all the Israelis and USAins I meet locally ( those who I estimate as zios) very unwelcome here on my turf.
They are mostly scared, little cowards…

Posted by: stranger | Feb 7 2025 21:38 utc | 156

MoA mainstream’s performance in predictions, relating to both the big and the small Satan, is really poor, disappointing.
@ grunzt | Feb 7 2025 21:18 utc | 155

But your summary judgement is based on past performance! The accuracy-rate of our predictions, here at MoA, might be just about to turn the corner into approximate alignment with that familiar realm I like to call “irreversible, entropic, incorrigible shared reality.”
The future is hard to get a handle on. Reading events in the present tense is a steep challenge. Gilbert Doctorow has just completely jumped the shark with irrational, openly anthrophobic worship of power. I have no further use for this guy:

And when you look at [the body language], you understand that Netanyahu was hearing this for the first time in front of the cameras. What does that tell you? It was a trap. In front of the cameras, Netanyahu was forced to say it’s a brilliant idea and that Trump is the best friend Israel has. And he’s going to have a very hard time backing away from those statements. And what does this mean if Gaza is, so to speak, American property? It means that Netanyahu can no longer vomit. And what does that mean?
Practically speaking, an end of the genocide. Has anybody out there in major media, alternative media, noticed this little detail? They [haven’t], because they think that Trump is an idiot. Well, he’s not. They’re the idiots. They are not seeing what’s in front of their eyes, that he has just trapped Netanyahu into ending the war on Gaza.

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/02/06/transcript-of-dialogue-works-edition-of-6-february-2/
Get that? Trump just trapped Netanyahu into ending the genocide. And Doctorow is off his meds, and please don’t ask what it means that “Netanyahu can no longer vomit.”
Oy!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 7 2025 22:25 utc | 157

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 1:21 utc | 56
Thank you, I recommend to the other barflies as well, just started watching myself. Speed it up to 1,25 to save the time…
I raise it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Zb4BksXtv1Y
BTW, why nobody speaks of the exact same process, the slave-system in Europe, as in the Middle East. The shame is shared amongst all of the colonial governments of the world.
Exactly the same is happening in Europe: govts acting against their citizenry interests and well being, against the protests, arresting the jurnos who speak against the genocidal shit of ‘Israel’, Medhurst could be sentenced to 10 yrs in jail just for speaking the truth against genocide er example…
Common denominator is:
Cowardliness towards the colonial behavior of the rotting and desperate west.
Evropa acts like this, Middle Eastern kingdoms act like this…
But the omission here serves the useful and wanted goal of Islamophobia. Poor Arabs sitting above the richness of the coveted resources.
Believe you me, if they were Budhists, and violet of skin- they would be demonized equally as well.
Just in the way… for plundering bandits.Luckily now, bandits are subnormal idiots.. There will be surprises, and knights are in the picture as well: Yemen, Hesbollah, Hamas, Ansarullah, Iraqis…
I talked too much tonight, good night all…

Posted by: stranger | Feb 7 2025 22:31 utc | 158

I know I sometimes I can take threads off topic…it is as if he is deliberately bating me to do it.
Nobody here is that stupid surely and actually believes his view of the world. ?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 7 2025 17:04 utc | 125
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LOL.
Thanks for the laff.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 7 2025 23:08 utc | 159

IDF Girls love to dance, well those that still can do it.
https://x.com/drr_palestine/status/1887529793945739618

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 23:10 utc | 160

Posted by: grunzt | Feb 7 2025 21:18 utc | 155
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I have maintained that Oct 7th was the beginning of the end of the Zionist state of Israel.
It may take 20 years. It doesn’t matter how long to me. It is bleeding out and has shown no signs it is capable of a recovery.
Recovery of its reputation, its economy, and its soft power standing.
Hasbara 2.0 is intended to be harder, not softer, they are changing tactics up, IMO, which will only make them more isolated.
Demography continues to be the ticking time bomb in the occupation, and the moment a Palestinian state is established (closer today than any day in modern history), it will explode with new pregnancies.
Zionists are literally on a path to extinction due to their own toxic social and racial beliefs.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 23:23 utc | 161

Reading through, each viewpoint regarding Trump/US policy/play makes sense. JB, franconia, and so on, because each is a facet to the picture that somehow exists. Yet there are complete contradictions between the different views. This is partly because we are guessing at intent. It is confounding and I do not know exactly what is meant.
Going by the steady evolution of occupation direction one set of argument makes sense, going by the perception of occupation difficulty another view does, looking at Trump as having lost the plot gives yet another, and so on. As LD says, time would favour the Palestinians.
I don’t know, I suppose we must wait and see.
For now I am just thankful that much of the onslaught has been largely paused. I don’t even pretend that necessarily means less eventual suffering, but it is a reality and not a projection, and so to be thankful.
There is still much that needs attention drawn to in Gaza, Palestine and the region, and further afield. It is now harder to place a center of event, or not to end up distracted by other more visible conflict.
I think to brush over what has occured in Gaza is clearly wanted by some. All the “solutions offered” have that effect also, of saying the Palestinians are taken into consideration, that any difficulties are being sorted out.
That is temporary, what happens afterwards in practice is something different I think.

Posted by: Ornot | Feb 8 2025 0:22 utc | 162

“IDF Girls love to dance, well those that still can do it.
https://x.com/drr_palestine/status/1887529793945739618
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2025 23:10 utc | 160″
Laughing at maimed girls. Thats how you roll? This war is a sick thing.
All I Feel looking at those photos is sadness. And fear hate will take over the globe.

Posted by: jimmyjohn | Feb 8 2025 0:28 utc | 163

LoveDonbass 161
As I have mentioned , I reverted to Islam more than 25 years ago, and I have been living in the Muslim community for 25 years.
But a couple of days ago I learnt something new when a ‘Sufi” Mosque stuck up its name on the side of the building. MASJID ABDALIYAH. Right now, while HTS are killing Alawites, Ali AS reverers in Syria.
This tells me that the Berelwis, the Sufis, in this community are not Sufis at all . They are reverers of Ali AS, Slaves of ‘Ali AS. Is Britain greenlighting this coming out of Alawism in Britain to whip up hatred of HTS in Syria?
As you may know , not all Christians regard Christ AS as God, and not all Jews are Talmudists. In fact the worst Talmudists in Christ’s time AS were cursed by him.
This is why I was strongly opposed to the terrorist massacres in Sri Lanka, because some Christians believe in God in exactly the same way as Islam does.
And many Muslims , who hate those One God Christians , are worshippers of Righteous Caliph ‘Ali AS instead of Allah swt.
HTS , controlled by USUKIS, are killing Alawites and suddenly the majority base of the South Asian British community come out as Alawites, Slaves of Ali AS.
Coincidence? Or more political intrigue by the shapeshifters of British Imperialism, who destroyed the core of correct worship in India by massacring the righteous scholars in Delhi?
Anyway, my point is , that Scottish-Jewish Trump appears to be telling Khazar Fake-Jew , European-Nazi, Netanyahu that his Trumpian, Scottish-Jewish , US Jewishness is purer that Netanyahu’s Khazar Fake-Jew, European-Nazi Jewishness.
Whereas in fact Netanyahu’s Jewish credentials through his mother are much better than Trump’s. But Trump’s Imperial credentials through Scottish ancestry , trump Netanyahu’s maternal Jewish ancestry in Western society.
Is there any traction in this sectarian, dick-waving, one-upmanship shit-show? I am really rather tired of being hated by Ali- worshipping “”” Muslims “”” for being a hated, Imperial-British Muslim, when I am in reality part French, part Polish Jewish and part Welsh and none of these ancestors ever oppressed South Asians at all. Nothing to do with me anyway. Just grist for their racist mill.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 8 2025 0:31 utc | 164

Laughing at maimed girls. Thats how you roll? This war is a sick thing.
All I Feel looking at those photos is sadness. And fear hate will take over the globe.
Posted by: jimmyjohn | Feb 8 2025 0:28 utc | 163
I laugh at maimed genociders.
Once you step over the line into genocidal colonialism you willingly surrender your humanity and every human consideration that goes with it.
Zionism has a price.
This ‘war’ is the first in which I’ve been able to feel pleasure at watching genociders blown to bits in their tanks.
I have no regrets for that.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 1:04 utc | 165

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 1:04 utc | 165
That happened to far, far fewer than you believe.

Posted by: Ed4 | Feb 8 2025 1:07 utc | 166

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 8 2025 0:31 utc | 164
Are the reports that Syrian forces have been sporadically clashing with Hezbollah forces on the Syrian Lebanese border true?

Posted by: Ed4 | Feb 8 2025 1:08 utc | 167

No forced evacuations if Egypt takes over the Gaza strip. They owned it until 1948. Then Palestinians won’t have “Go to Egypt” because they’re already there. Egypt can name Gaza the autonomous region of Palestine. Jordan takes the West Bank. They owned it until 1967. They can name it the autonomous region of Palestine West. Revive this variation of the Jordanian option. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_option

Posted by: Willow | Feb 8 2025 1:18 utc | 168

CrossTalk: Trump ‘Owns’ Gaza
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/612289-trump-palestinians-gaza-forced-displacement/
“Trump promised to shock the system, and he is. He has declared war against the US government, threatened friends and foes alike with a tariff war, and now has personally decided to re-order the Middle East. Palestinians in Gaza face more forced displacement and ethnic cleansing.
CrossTalking with Ramzy Baroud, Ahmad Shihab-Eldin and Ali Rizk.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 8 2025 1:18 utc | 169

Prominent Canadian Zio-nazi ‘Activist’ Charged with Uttering Death Threats
https://x.com/TheCanadafiles/status/1887170217673105596
“Police say Eli Schwartz threatened ‘grievous harm’ against a counter-demonstration during a weekly ‘rally for Israel’, and told an officer he was a member of Kahane Chai (Kach), which Public Safety Canada classifies as a Jewish extremist terrorist entity.
On Monday, Toronto Police say they searched Schwarz’s house and discovered Kahane-Chai branded clothing. They also found a rifle and scope, 10 boxes of ammunition and a body armour vest. Schwarz is a prominent pro-Israel activist.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 8 2025 1:34 utc | 170

Posted by: Willow | Feb 8 2025 1:18 utc | 168
Very good post; thank you, Willow!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 8 2025 1:37 utc | 171

Giyane | Feb 7 2025 10:22 utc | 84
*** Is the world going to sit back and allow the Khazar Jews dismantle its systems of Law Enforcement as well?***
Seems so.
*** It does look as though only Islam has the sanity it was born with to oppose these frauds from taking over the entire world.***
The majority don’t appear to be going to do anything practical at all; while the dictators who rule them just utter occasional ritualised platitudes about “martyrs”.
And even that is not a particularly helpful idea, since most of the Western audience has by now been trained to (wrongly) psychologically word-associate such present day “martyrs” with (unspecified, but automatically bad anyway) “terrorists” / “jihadists”.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 8 2025 1:44 utc | 172

Posted by: Willow | Feb 8 2025 1:18 utc | 168
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It is still ethnic cleansing. Not surprised Juliana approves.
Trump is going to confiscate the land and the gas fields for Bibi who has already leased the natural resources out.
This is outright colonialism and theft after a genocide.
If the Palestinians leave, they will never be allowed back. Trump said that would return the new development to “world people”. LOL
Zionists will have to live with the Resistance fighting to the end. Hopefully, it will cost America a lot of blood and treasure if Trump goes for it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 8 2025 1:49 utc | 173

Get that? Trump just trapped Netanyahu into ending the genocide. And Doctorow is off his meds, and please don’t ask what it means that “Netanyahu can no longer vomit.”
Oy!
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 7 2025 22:25 utc | 157
Bravo, Aleph_Null!!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 8 2025 2:07 utc | 174

Ed4 167
The Internet has the ability to spread misinformation. However , if Saudi Prince Bandar has authorised HTS to kill Alawites from the Syrian Army, that raises the possibility that Saudi Arabia is theocratically opposing the Shi’a Axis of Resistance to Israel.
Most Muslims are opposed by Saudi Arabia for one reason or another. USUKIS always plays divide and Rule between the different sects of Islam.
What we are seeing in Syria is the vacuum left by Assad’s departure being filled by USUKIS , in other words, Zionists. Some people are saying that Russia leaving is Russia condoning USUKIS Zionism.
That in my view is wrong because Putin has said that he needs to defeat the Zionists in Israel before he can defeat the Zionist Neocons in Ukraine.
In my view Putin is allowing the USUKIS Zionists to gorge themselves with HTS and Israeli attacks on the Shi’a Axis of Resistance , in order to appear weak, but when Trump makes a move against Iran Putin will Oreshnik the Israeli perpetrators.
Trump saying that He is the Dog and Netanyahu is the tail is Trump telling Netanyahu that it’s proxy Israel v. Iran and Russia, not Armaggeddon.
Stupid is as stupid does. War is run by computers.
Saudi Arabia are by definition more eschatologically racist than Israel, but using the UPDATE, the Holy Qur’an, rather than the 15,000 year old Bible as a guide on whom to murder.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 8 2025 2:11 utc | 175

Trump is very friendly with Erik Prince of Blackwater fame.
Trump may try to use mercenaries to coerce the Palestinians to leave their ancestral homeland.
Then he doesn’t have to go through Congress or the DoD.
Blackwater was brutal in Iraq against civilians. Acting with impunity because there was no legal consensus about US mercenaries’ accountability.
Don Jr. has been talking about bringing back Letters of Marque and Reprisal, ostensibly for assassinations.
Again, legal gray areas.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 8 2025 2:21 utc | 176

I laugh at maimed genociders.
Once you step over the line into genocidal colonialism you willingly surrender your humanity and every human consideration that goes with it.. . .
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 1:04 utc | 165
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I looked at the videos a few times and it was not clear to me who or where the maimed girls were. The juxtaposition was supposed to implant a connection between the two pairs of girls in viewers’ minds, but is there actually any but a montage-created connection?
I agree that it is the genociders who surrender their humanity, not their victims.
But that is not me. You?
I don’t follow the syllogism.
IMO it is one thing to be glad to see an Israeli tank blown up in in the streets of Gaza in the course of a battle and another to revel in the sight of two unidentified maimed civilians, absent any “genocidal” context at all (that I could see).

Posted by: Jane | Feb 8 2025 2:25 utc | 177

Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 7 2025 18:37 utc | 140
Yes, to you and to jimmyjohn | Feb 7 2025 17:47 utc | 137

Posted by: juliania | Feb 8 2025 2:37 utc | 178

The Cananites were Children of Ishmael , cousins of the Children of Israel who had been persecuted by Pharaoh.
The Canaanites had fallen into idol worship and God commanded the Jews to enter the City , later to be Jerusalem, in Prostration, on hands and knees , to remind their cousins of Islamic worship.
But God tells us in the Qur’an that the Jews changed the words of His commands.
That is maybe why Netanyahu used the Altered version, to kill the Palestinians, because his predexessors changed God’s instructions.
If Saudi Bandar is using Sunni parts of the Syrian Army to attack the Shi’a Axis of Resistance against Israel in Lebanon, that shows whose side Saudi Arabia is on.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 8 2025 2:47 utc | 179

The idiotic idea that Palestinians are Egyptians is so stupid it beggars belief.
The Egyptians will never take in the Palestinians because the Egyptians had to lose a lot of men to keep the Zionists out of Sinai, which the Israelis want to eventually capture to create Greater Israel.
If they allow Trump’s degenerate Riviera to border Sinai, it is inevitable that the Zionists will invade to capture Sinai, then up to the Suez Canal. Then America will control both the Suez and the Panama Canals.
Not going to happen.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 8 2025 3:13 utc | 180

LoveDonbass@173…..if fighting to the end was taking place in down town Tel Aviv, that’d be exciting, like Jew on Jew, similar to the Satanic Slav on Slav bloodletting taking place in Russia and the Ukraine. The Palestinians could sit it out, maybe send a shipment of arms here or there to the favoured rebels of the day, all in good faith you know…..like the US does.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 8 2025 3:17 utc | 181

ZH has a posting up from Middle East Eye with the title
Netanyahu Suggests Palestinians Can Have A State In Saudi Arabia
quote

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu suggested on Thursday that Palestinians should establish a state in Saudi Arabia, rather than in their homeland, in his latest dismissal of Palestinians’ right to self-determination.
“The Saudis can create a Palestinian state in Saudi Arabia; they have a lot of land over there,” Netanyahu said in an interview with Israel’s Channel 14.

So much for a kiss-up between Occupied Palestine and SA

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 8 2025 3:29 utc | 182

Meanwhile all of us “conspiracy theorists” and “antisemites” and “Jew haters” were correct about the Hannibal Directive on October 7.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28788

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 8 2025 3:37 utc | 183

Haaretz is reporting that Israel is now demanding the full “expulsion” of Hamas from Gaza, and in the absence of such the IDF will remain entrenched on the Egypt-Gaza border. Israel also claims the United States fully supports its “right” to resume combat operations if negotiations on the next ceasefire phase collapse, which would be inevitable as representatives of Hamas comprise the Gazan negotiating team.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 8 2025 3:55 utc | 184

wikipedia article on history of Gaza. Egypt had control at various periods until 1967
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gaza

Posted by: Willow | Feb 8 2025 4:48 utc | 185

Couple information requests
1) anyone aware of a data source that has tracked Palestinian deaths from Isr aeli military action by year?
2) This was posted by
Dr. George W Oprisko
a few years back that Gaza’s coast gives it territorial right to 60% of yhe 1.4 trillion ccf natural field off the coast.
Is he out there or does anyone have a reference for this. I googled the name at the top and didn’t get a hit.
From Robert Monotti on Twitter….
Discovered in 2000, there are extensive gas reserves off the Gaza coastline:
“It should be noted that 60 percent of the gas reserves along the Gaza-Israel coastline belong to Palestine.
The BG Group drilled two wells in 2000: Gaza Marine-1 and Gaza Marine-2. Reserves are estimated by British Gas to be of the order of 1.4 trillion cubic feet, valued at approximately 4 billion dollars. These are the figures made public by British Gas. The size of Palestine’s gas reserves could be much larger.
Who Owns the Gas Fields?
The issue of sovereignty over Gaza’s gas fields is crucial. From a legal standpoint, the gas reserves belong to Palestine.
The death of Yasser Arafat, the election of the Hamas government and the ruin of the Palestinian Authority have enabled Israel to establish de facto control over Gaza’s offshore gas reserves.
British Gas (BG Group) has been dealing with the Tel Aviv government. In turn, the Hamas government has been bypassed in regards to exploration and development rights over the gas fields.
In 2006, British Gas “was close to signing a deal to pump the gas to Egypt.” (Times, May, 23, 2007). According to reports, British Prime Minister Tony Blair intervened on behalf of Israel with a view to shunting the agreement with Egypt.
Gaza and Energy Geopolitics
The military occupation of Gaza is intent upon transferring the sovereignty of the gas fields to Israel in violation of international law.”
As usual…. oil/gas…. explains everything…
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 12 2023 12:29 utc | 71

Posted by: Jerr | Feb 8 2025 4:53 utc | 186

Posted by: Willow | Feb 8 2025 4:48 utc | 185
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After the Yom Kippur War of ’73, a peace deal was negotiated. The Egyptians are now saying they are ready to tear that peace deal up if the Zionist powers (America and Israel) try to force the Palestinians into Egypt.
Palestinians will socially disrupt any host nation. Jordan already is on tenterhooks with a very large Palestinian diaspora. It’s an economic issue, and the Palestinians will always work to go back to their land (creating militias). Trump and his buddy Bibi will have to slaughter them all, Trump cannot understand being bound to land the way they are. He’s a carpetbagger descended from carpetbaggers. Bibi is Polish, and most of the white Israeli leadership is from European nations. Few of them are of Semitic descent.
The Israelis and Trump think they are so smart throwing this at the Arab states to solve so that Israel can have all of the land and resources without much more trouble.
The issue is, Arabs are infinitely more stubborn than the Zionists are. Keep pushing them to handle the Palestinians, and they may just throw the Israelis out, and turn it over to Erdogan, who is sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 8 2025 5:23 utc | 187

If a synagogue is targetted with grafitti, they scream blue murder, yet:
05/February/2025 10:13 PM
226 archaeological sites damaged in Gaza during Israel aggression: Ministry report
RAMALLAH, February 5, 2024 (WAFA) – The Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities Wednesday announced that 226 archaeological sites in the Gaza Strip have been damaged as a result of direct Israeli targeting.
The Ministry made this announcement in cooperation with the Center for Cultural Heritage Preservation as part of a report dubbed “Inventory of the Damages and Risks to Cultural Heritage Sites in Gaza”, which assessed the damages inflicted on them as a result of the recent Israeli aggression.
Co-prepared by 13 Palestinian experts in cooperation with an Oxford University team over a year period, the report examines 316 cultural heritage sites in Gaza, encompassing archaeological sites, heritage buildings, museums, religious buildings, historical cemeteries, cultural scenes, natural sites, and landmarks, as stated by Minister of Tourism and Antiquities, Hani Al-Hayek.
Speaking at the Ministry’s headquarters in Ramallah, the Minister pointed out that the report was based on a thorough field survey of all sites, analysis of satellite images, data collection, and the creation of individual site models. This information was then analyzed to assess the extent of the damage.
The report finds that out of the 316 sites, 138 sites sustained major damage, 61 others were moderately damaged, 27 others suffered slight damage, and 90 others remained undamaged.
It estimates the budget required for the recovery of the cultural heritage sector at 261.15 million euros, to be implemented in three phases over eight years.
Phase 1 involves an urgent intervention to salvage and support endangered sites, and requires 31.2 million euros. Phase 2 involves the interventions necessary to restore and rehabilitate partially endangered sites, and requires 96.72 million euros. Phase 3 is concerned with the reconstruction of threatened sites, requiring 133.23 million euros.
Minister Al-Hayek said that the historical archaeological sites are an important part of the history and identity of the Palestinian people on Palestinian land, adding that the occupation, by targeting these sites, is deliberately erasing and destroying this important part and the basic pillar of the Palestinian national identity.

https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/154352

Posted by: Menz | Feb 8 2025 6:28 utc | 188

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1887025882046386567
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Biden enabled Israel to transform Gaza into a “demolition site” so Trump could propose a “take over” plan. This is what’s known inside the Beltway as continuity.
https://x.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1887291483981549631
Rania Khalek @RaniaKhalek
Very important interview with Ansarallah’s @M_N_Albukhaiti
We discussed whether Yemen will strike Israel again if the ceasefire breaks down, if they’ll keep attacking US warships, how they view the Trump terrorist designation, thoughts on Syria developments and more.
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1887283717397238192
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🚨 ‘If they escalate, we will escalate. If they target our leaders, we will target theirs.’
@M_N_Albukhaiti
warns the US & Israel and calls them “the real terrorists.”
EXCLUSIVE interview w/ @RaniaKhalek
on Dispatches.
🎥 Watch here: https://youtu.be/hiyhcCCamIc

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 8 2025 6:34 utc | 189

Re: Maimed IDF
Those certainly appear to be battlefield related amputations. Note those gals are very much conscripts or weekend warriors who actively engaged in a (plausible) genocide. Tragic.
The fault lies with the Likudniks who refuse to accept a just and lasting peace.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 8 2025 6:42 utc | 190

https://x.com/caitoz/status/1887999241043460308
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Never forget October 7, that terrible day when a thousand Israelis were massacred by Israeli bullets and Israeli tanks and Israeli helicopters and also by Hamas a bit.
https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1887863038658715827
The Cradle @TheCradleMedia
Ex-Israeli war chief confirms issuing Hannibal Directive to kill own civilians, soldiers on 7 Oct
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28788

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 8 2025 7:15 utc | 191

I looked at the videos a few times and it was not clear to me who or where the maimed girls were. The juxtaposition was supposed to implant a connection between the two pairs of girls in viewers’ minds, but is there actually any but a montage-created connection?
I agree that it is the genociders who surrender their humanity, not their victims.
But that is not me. You?
Posted by: Jane | Feb 8 2025 2:25 utc | 177
I never looked at the video either.
There was no need to.
It was the idea of israelis (IDF members), colonizers, suffering the consequences of their actions either directly or indirectly that gives me pleasure.
Why does it give me pleasure?
Because it provides a hope, at minimum, that there’s some kind of justice in this existence after all evidence of human justice has been removed from our world at least the grand karmic wheel is still turning.
And that is edifying.
As for “humanity”, there is none left to surrender.
“Humanity” was extinguished in the ruins of Gaza in 2024.
What’s left?
I don’t know. Perhaps “Homo Nullus” stirs in the ruins, waiting to be birthed from the grave of “Homo Sapiens”. Not “humanity” as we know it but something else.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 7:30 utc | 192

@Arch Bungle | Feb 7 2025 16:35 utc | 119
While the Afrikaner and his perpetual, crazy ideas like slavery and Apartheid are well known, what is not so well known is that blacks are a disaster. There is literally no possibility of economic, social or infrastructural development with blacks, only the deterioration of everything, their IQ is so low that they can’t get anything right, no matter how much education and opportunities they are given. Blacks are also not indigenous to South Africa either, yet they always complain about the whites being settlers in South Africa.

Posted by: gT | Feb 8 2025 8:04 utc | 193

gT 193
Your statement about blacks is totally unacceptable and racist. Every village on the planet that has been wracked by war, colonialism, Capitalist or Communist (same thing) Feudalism has lost its community memory of civilised and orderly behaviour.
Unbelievable that your comment pops up on MoA. Why do you think South Africa opposes genocide? Because they know that institutionalised rape and violence are the fruit of being being economically raped and colonised.
Africa was targeted for destruction for the same reason that Palestine has been targeted by the Khazars, Biden, Blinken, Nutjob and Orangatan. Because it was a Muslim stronghold against Roman polytheism which happened to be sitting on resources that Rome wanted to steal.
6 million Muslims were transported to the Caribbean to slavery , laying the foundation for your racist comment.
You should repent and apologise.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 8 2025 10:30 utc | 194

Posted by: gT | Feb 8 2025 8:04 utc | 193
Spoken like true American trailers trash.
Enjoy your ignorance, pankop.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 10:40 utc | 195

Giyane stop this BS you known damn well that HTS is in the pocket of the Qatar and Turkish MB and not in that of KSA

Posted by: Tom | Feb 8 2025 10:44 utc | 196

180 – They don’t even speak the same Arabic dialect.

Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 8 2025 10:58 utc | 197

Posted by: gT | Feb 8 2025 8:04 utc | 193
That is the most asinine post I have ever read on MOA. You could do well with some research on IQ tests.

Posted by: Menz | Feb 8 2025 10:59 utc | 198

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 8 2025 7:30 utc | 192
“Humanity” was extinguished in the ruins of Gaza in 2024
Yeah, thus I’ve had to transpose this entire shitstorm into a very dark fairytale, for my own sanity, where prince charming gets mugged under his love’s balcony, and after suffering much verbal abuse and manhandling, electric shocks to his genitals, is brutally sodomized, and then exiled, naked, ankles shackled, to cross the tundra, into the sunset…with the screams of his love piercing the guffaws of the brutes having their way with her slowly fading in the distance. Temperature falling.

Posted by: john | Feb 8 2025 11:12 utc | 199

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🚨Gaza’s Media Office: Despite the ceasefire, Israel continues to block critical humanitarian aid, worsening Gaza’s already catastrophic conditions. Key violations include:
➤ Aid Restrictions: Only 8,500 aid trucks have entered instead of the agreed 12,000. Northern Gaza received less than half of its required aid.
➤ Shelter Crisis: Only 10% of needed tents have arrived; not a single mobile housing unit has been allowed in.
➤ Fuel Shortages: Just 15 fuel trucks enter daily instead of the agreed 50, crippling hospitals and public services.
➤ Medical Neglect: 100 critically ill children have died due to evacuation delays, while 40% of kidney failure patients have died from lack of treatment.
➤ Blocked Reconstruction: Heavy machinery for clearing 55 million tons of rubble is barred, leaving bodies trapped beneath.
Full press release below ⬇️
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1888120461680369788

Posted by: Menz | Feb 8 2025 11:16 utc | 200