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February 25, 2025
Does Trump Really Have A Plan For Ukraine?

The weird thing about President Trump’s plans for Ukraine is that no knows what they actually are.

Over the last days I have tried to understand what he is trying to achieve. I fail to come up with a theory that makes sense. His behavior is inconsistent. There are also no helpful hints from the White House or leaks to the press. There is frenetic action here and there and pompous pronouncements. But what are the overall plans?

Prof. Mearsheimer likewise says (vid) that Trump’s behavior makes no sense. Blackmailing Ukraine into a resource extraction deal is not a realist position. It is not even mercantilistic. There is nothing to sell there and any deal will be scuppered by courts under oligarch pressure. It makes no sense.

So what is the evidence that Trump has a plan? What is the evidence that he is really negotiating with Russia? What is he factually doing to shut down the war as he has claimed he would do?

Yves Smith, quoting contrarian opinions of Brian Berletic and John Helmer, is likewise wondering what Trump is about:

Because the Trump Administration has no clear idea of what it wants in terms of a Ukraine end game, save being able to claim that Trump ended the war and is therefore a great deal-maker, it is at serious risk of falling into the behavior Sun Tsu warned about: “All tactics and no strategy is the noise before the defeat.”

Specifically, we’ll discuss how oddly under-amplified assessments by Brian Berletic and John Helmer, show that the idea, popular in the independent media, that Trump represents a great foreign policy break from the past is exaggerated. His difference in methods are being unduly confused with differences in aims.

But we’ll first address the way a new Administration pet fixation, that of wresting a minerals/other economic rights deal from Ukraine, is contrary to the aim of reaching an agreement with Russia.

Now this Ukraine minerals deal may be an example of Trump habits operating to his detriment. Consider how the Trump approach of maximizing his possible negotiating space by advancing all sorts of frame-breaking ideas is not such a hot idea when done reflexively, as seems to be the case in Trump 2.0, as opposed to deliberately.

Trump himself regularly threatens radically extreme actions, like ethnic cleansing in Gaza, and browbeats heads of state to try to get his way. Not only is Trump not getting his Riviera development there, but his bullying makes him look like a petulant jerkface. Why should anyone want to get in any relationship with a partner who relishes not just crass dominance displays but even humiliating heads of state (witness King Abdullah of Jordan) and is indifferent to destabilizing the entire region? These actions are inimical to building trust and dealing with anything other than subservient parties.

Or perhaps Trump and his operatives still believe that Russia is having trouble sustaining its war effort, and so shoring up US credibility and commitment will lead Russia to make concessions.

Neither approach one might think Trump is taking – to use a Ukraine resource deal to keep the U.S. in Ukraine and the war going, or to use the Ukraine resource deal to finally break with Ukraine – is consistent with a realistic assessment of the facts on the ground. At least not if the aim of the game is to make peace.

Trump is may be just rearranging the chairs before continuing with the same old imperial program:

Brian Berletic contends that most independent commentators have fallen for the MAGA/America First hype when Trump represents strategic continuity for the US by trying to maintain dominance, particularly vis-a-vis China. In particular, Berletic described, based on watching the full confirmation hearings for Trump defense and intelligence picks, that the US was not getting rid of the USAID regime change/messaging apparatus, merely shuttering its DEI and other MAGA-disapproved elements.

Needless to say, this assessment, based on what the Trump Administration has said it intends to do with USAID operations, is very much at odds with the conventional, complacent view that Trump has gotten the US out of the regime change business. Why pray tell, would it have been in the US’ strategic interest to do so? It’s not as if we could win any concessions for eliminating that apparatus.

Yves Smith’s take on John Helmer’s analysis:

Helmer based on his own experience in the Carter Administration as well as input from Russian sources confirming what could be inferred from the remarks of various participants [of the talks in Riyadh] was that the session, from the Russian vantage, was a train wreck. Even if you didn’t have the benefit of the reports afterwards, the way the US went about it was nuts. The US side demanded an immediate high level session, when those typically do not happen before adequate ground work has been undertaken. On top of that, the key members of the Trump foreign policy team had only just been installed. And with DOGE running a bulldozer through State, it’s not as if Rubio and his colleagues had any expertise (such as from career staffers who’d been there before Team Biden came in) to draw on.

He reprised some of its findings, and added new observations, in a talk with Nima of Dialogue Works.

From the very top:

Helmer: The Russian perception is that the American side is a kasha, is a porridge, is a mess. But it’s necessary not to be impolite and say so…..First, what should the Russian side do next?

This problem is actually serious. The US called for a high-level meeting and had no idea what to do then, no agenda, no asks, no proposals. The point seemed to be to create a perception of momentum and pretend that Trump was making serious progress on ending the war. Helmers points to the almost desperation of the US side in saying the fact of this meeting proved that Trump was the only man who could end the war … in lieu of having anything else to say.

The conclusion for me is that there is no Trump plan at all to make peace in Ukraine.

The conflict – in consequence – will have to be decided on the battlefield.

Comments

@Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 9:40 utc | 293
I dont know why you compare them with Hitler.
I see no reason at all for that.
I am just noting that socialists are driven by selfinterest like everyone else but like to pose as a little bit more caring for others.
And anglosaxons are implicitly accused for the worlds present condition.
Including anglosaxon socialists.
Anglosaxons are like fish in the water on the internet since everybody uses english.
They naturally tend to dominate.
What they omit therefore matters.
That is my point.
But I dont expect them to become more objective I just mention that it matters.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 10:43 utc | 301

Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Feb 26 2025 5:25 utc | 260
The USD is the biggest strength and biggest weak spot of the USA.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:12 utc | 267
Your statement is paradoxical, yet it is spot on!

The paradox is resolved by bringing time into the equation.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 26 2025 10:44 utc | 302

It has just been announced that Poland has ordered thousands of Starlink terminals from Musk, allegedly for Ukraine.
However, insiders claim that these are intended for the Poles themselves, in preparation for a war with Russia.
Given the sheer volume of devices, insiders assume that the EU paid for and ordered them.
Posted by: berthold | Feb 26 2025 10:00 utc | 296
But much more interesting
US President Donald Trump may demand the removal of Finland and Sweden from NATO to enhance Washington’s relations with Moscow, said Jussi Lassila, senior research fellow at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs.
“Trump’s affinity for Russia’s point of view can reach unprecedented proportions,” he told the STT news agency. According to Lassila, Russia, as part of its agreements with the United States, may insist on the return of NATO to the borders of 1997, which in practice will mean the exclusion of Finland and Sweden from the alliance. “We must be prepared for this and maintain our composure,” the expert said.”
Underlying conditions…

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 26 2025 10:58 utc | 303

Petergrfstrim @ 301
Thanks for your imput to clarify.
Hitler hijacket the term socalist, giveing it a bad name by some. Wrongly. He was end game capatilist… profit from theft and mass murder as we see trump/biden%co doing, facism in a word ..shape shifters putting different labels on themselves and their oposition.
True socalists have been silensed by the net algerythems, media and repressive laws, yet we are the majority. A majority without a political party. In uk, america europe and elsewhere in the western world.
The right wing and elite fear us as we are their victem. We are the many they are the few.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 11:02 utc | 304

Rule number 1 is being forgotten – the AngloSaxons are agreement incapable.
Ergo the conflict proceeds until eventual unconditional surrender. No peace is possible. The west is just taking a break.
Many, if not most, have witnessed irrational hatred, whether based on skin color, religion, ethnicity or some other form of perceived superiority.
It will take millenia plus a propaganda drive greater than that which caused Russophobia, in the first place, back in the 19th century – see “jingoism” from the London Times – to cure.
We should note that the Ruthenian/Galician hatred is not confined to Russians, as per operation Gladio, but also to Poles and Jews, as per history.

Posted by: necromancer | Feb 26 2025 11:02 utc | 305

One thing Trump wants is revenge on Biden and the Democrats. Zelensky’s claim out of the blue that he doesn’t know where $100 billion went makes sense, if someone is urgently trying to find out.

Posted by: geoff chambers | Feb 26 2025 11:14 utc | 306

https://www.flightradar24.com/PLF110/39451a4a
Hmm. Polish Government plane, Ostrava in Czech Republic to Rzeszow. Who’s visiting Ukraine?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 11:21 utc | 307

Method in Madness?
So I’ll attempt some theorising to those not seeing the pathway being followed – no criticism dearest barkeep! and Helmer and others who are not quite getting it.
Sorry it’s long and for thes with short attention spans and dont want to read my working out – the TL;DR conclusion is briefly :-
What else is there to do in unconditional surrender talks except to hope to get away with murder and loot?
To leave some scapegoats holding the defeat and retributions.
————-
Let me explain by way of our (UKs) recent ‘negotiations’ as we prepared the grounds for this War! The current Talks’ are reminiscent of when Britain ‘postal voted’ for a surprise BrexShit and talks were started to agree the terms of disengagement from the EU – if people can remember back to less than 10 years ago ?
Obviously many memories have been addled by the Covid brain damaging memory holing with ever more expert media messyIng …
(Fade to flashback ~~~)
The EU under Barnier turned up with reams of detailed points – our side under David Davis ‘the BrexShit Bulldog’ turned up with …. Nothing! Not even a wish list.
It led ultimately to the hard BrexShit that was needed to let the City escape from all EU regulations and … it seems in hindsight now to let loose the LONG PLANNED PROVOKED War upon Russia .
Why was that hard disengagement required? From the EU that the U.K. would be whole heartedly in cahoots with on this century’s attempt to take Russia?
The answer to that is in the following.
~~~~end flashback / back to today
It is seen that our deep state shapeshifter owned establishment and elites have long planned to make this direct war; and also it seems, prepared to LOSE it – it is after all Russia and they always seem to survive and win against all odds and come to collect their debts!
So of course they need to be pragmatic belligerents had to protect their assets and arses because as Bismarck said – The Russians always come to collect what they are owed!
The bankers would let the EU hold the debt and theft that would need repaying and escape to the City and the far off shores of Yankee lands where they are certain the Russkies will not follow…
Even if this – the most cunning and multifaceted attack that no normal pesky Federation could possibly survive! After decades of planning and generations of crazed eurocraps with dodgy Nazi heritages installed at all the levels of our military industrial mightiest budget ever! – Failed.
Even if those crazed actual Neo- Nazis raised from actual Nazis, in Canada and other western hidey holes, as well as their original homelands that escaped the Red Army occupation and punishment; raised to steer their nations and governments without a choice, toward their eternal shapeshifter dynastic Dream – failed AGAIN.
The JudaeoChristian Banker Fascists Banderist/Hitlerite/Napoleonic grand City on the Hills Millenia old dream of the final vanquishing and capture of the great Eden of the East – the Orthodox neighbour in EurAsia – had fall back plans for that impossible failure!
And oh boy, this folly has also failed, as it always was going to, as it has always failed against the Russian Peoples – millions again are dead and wounded.
Especially the proxy sacrificial To Last Of The Ukropians- which was planned – win or lose. The Russophile Slavic ukropians were to be exterminated so that their lands would be stolen and occupied by the Blackrocks and partners, the ziofascIst Nazgûl Lords.
The natives would never be allowed to regret their brain dead betrayal of their neighbours and relatives and rise up to return to that fold…
So yes this world war is lost. There will be hell to pay.
The EU will be left holding the shitty end of that stick.
The Russians will yet again demand the repayment of their debts.
The City will escape from that ‘legal liability’ – it was them crazy EU! We left with hard BrexShit see? We have nothing to do with that stolen Russian Monies, see? It’s that Nazi VdL and that gang see?
as will Yankee Doodle based bankers.
The usual snivelling bullies who cry and try to run away crying ‘uncle’.
So whether it was the Dems who would have won another term or Republicans in a shiny new career politician suit or as it is the disruptive outsider DJT who surprisingly won the first time and determinedly the second time – they would all be faced with this inevitable defeat.
If Russia had not collapse after two years the chances of them failing in the third or fourth would fall to zero. Then some consolation Prize would be demanded by the bullies and the ground laid for a future attempt by a newly raised generation of proxy deluded populations to make that attempt..
The consolation in this war, is an extension of the last, the expansion of illegal apartheid entity in the Levant – it too was only planned once the Red a army had survived the Nazi onslaught by 1942 and started rumbling back to Berlin as they previously had to Paris.
The Donald making the ‘irrational’ claims of taking over and turning it into Trump Tower dominated Riviera!
That I think is him letting the cat out of the bag of what actually was planned for that benighted land and peoples. Thus ridiculing that idea and making sure the rising multipolar would nix that madness, folly and further extermination of the Semitic natives. There won’t be western forces making or keeping ‘Peace’ in either of these zones that the shapeshifters have for Millenia spilled much blood of their proxy population soldiers and the natives they sent to slaughter.
Let’s not forget we are just over a month in and there is plenty more of pesky meddling to do. He hasn’t yet gone and prodded Rocket Man, has he? He still has about 1430 days to get around to really fucking everything up or delivering the new multipolar baby world order that is unstoppable, especially now that the RF survived!
I see that as some Method in the Madness!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 26 2025 11:24 utc | 308

Thanks for your very interesting reply. I continued my musings at my substack, “The Ukraine Conflict’s Legal Issues: A day of musings at MoA”, where I concluded that Trump doesn’t need to have a plan.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2025 2:31 utc | 248
And you end with “Again, Trump needs no plan unless the Empire is to negotiate for Ukraine. If Team Trump is to negotiate for Ukraine, it will need to execute what Ukraine wants since the Empire is its agent, not its boss. Of course, Ukraine could choose another agent. And again, Zelensky’s illegitimate and thus has no standing to name any agent. IMO, he can’t even rescind his edict. I’d love to run all this by a Russian official for an opinion. Russia says its position hasn’t changed, but there’re many little points that aren’t expressed in that overall position. As usual, the devil’s in the details. ”
Let us be clear, the SMO is, even with all the money and arms and sheep dipped mercs, just a detail.
The main effort was a continental blockade, and as napoleon’s failed, so did the current one.
I could copy paste entire sections of wikipedia on that, replace france with us and it sound as a nice analysis.
Aside from subduing Russia, the blockade was also intended to establish US industrial and commercial hegemony in Europe. Within the US Empire, the newly acquired territories and client states were subordinate to US itself, as there was a unified market within US (no internal barriers or tariffs) while economic distortions were maintained on the borders of the new territories.
see?
Of course it’s the US that has to double down or fold.
Let’s play a find/replace again…
The loss of Russia as a trading partner also hit the economies of the US and its allies. Angry governments gained an incentive to ignore the sanctions, which led to the weakening of US’s coalition. As the US realised that extensive trade was going through China and India, he engaged those two countries.
So… Biden/Napoleon has gone to his retirement home, but the US must make peace or engage china and india.
Any, but particularly china, could be as catastrophic as napoleon’s attempt at russia proper.
My 2 cents

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 26 2025 11:24 utc | 309

YetAnotherAnon @ 307
Casaul observeration….
The Vultures are circling the prey !
Never a good sign in my view.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 11:27 utc | 310

Perhaps carrion would be a better term than prey.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 11:28 utc | 311

I’m pretty sure that Trump wants to see Netanyahu booted out and neutered. Here’s why:
1. During his 2016 campaign he made a point of stating that “We spent $6 Trillion on M.E. wars. 6 Trillion! We could have rebuilt America twice!”
2. In the same campaign he refused to take questions from a reporter representing the jew-coordinated Western MSM, labelling them Fake News.
3. During his 1st term as POTUS he decided to suck up to Netanyahu by ‘giving’ Jerusalem to the jews and moving the US Embassy there.
4. And how did Netanyahu thank him? By switching The Lobby’s loyalty to Sleepy Joe and undermining Trump’s 2020 campaign.
5. Trump has never concealed his contempt for jewed-up NATO and thinks there are better things to spend $US on than Wars For The Jews.
6. It should be obvious that Jewrael’s ownership of most of USA’s Congress Critters has allowed the CIA and State Dept to be packed to the rafters with Mossad agents.
7. Imo, when Trump and Putin had a private one on one chat during Trump’s first term, Putin advised him to appoint his own bodyguards – a tip Castro gave Putin – and the January 6th betrayal by his Secret Service bodyguards would have convinced him that Putin was correct.
Trump wants America to be governed for the benefit of Americans, not Jewrael’s jews.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2025 11:31 utc | 312

all it has done is raise questions about the positioning of the trans-national corporations and their vested interests in the conflict.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 25 2025 17:25 utc | 14
Interesting how there is not much coverage of who gets the primary lien, or right of first refusal on UKrain property? It has been said that Z girl sold out the country to Western corporations. Does the US federal govt. under Trump get priority? If not it makes the trannie nationalists look like the greedy bloodsuckers they are. With a chaotic policy, shorts on their stocks makes money for whoever calls the shots. The Blackrock owned building the Trump assassin (Blackrock commercial appearing) shot from is likely not to be forgotten.
I wonder how much money Trump & allies made/will make on his UKrain minerals ask? It does not even need to happen for it to be a (financial) win for him. Conversely, how much money trannie corps losses?
The confusion and contradictions make more sense if it is seen as a battle between power blocks in the west. Many recent aviation incidents lately…
COST CUTTING AND RECAPITALIZATION: …his gaze appears to me to be solidly fixed on these dimensions!
Posted by: Michael64 | Feb 25 2025 18:16 utc | 43
And secretly profiting from market moves induced by his tweets/’crazy’-talk. It is why the ‘shallow’ state was/is more his adversary than Russia or China.
The cost cutting is being applied to combined NGO/GO/equity/media levers that previously influenced the markets and commodities prices more indirectly. Globo homo cabal ‘We Are Family’ anthem.
All color revolutions are profitable, some more than others. The ideology is important, making money the a main objective.
Another way to look at it is that the Trump initiatives are his version of color revolutions. ‘Red, white & blue’ vs. ‘Rainbows’.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 26 2025 11:40 utc | 313

So. Johnson’s sudden emergence this week from the seedy, musty backrooms of gentleman’s clubs of London, made me wonder where Boris has been lurking since the Istanbul treaty talks.
It seems he had a book to flog, and did an interview in Nov 2024, just weeks after Trump was elected.
It’s 40minutes, and I watched so you don’t have to.
Given Boris was talking in 2024… what’s on the table Friday with Trump and the much touted “minerals” deal… is how much this weeks Trump deal mirrors what Boris was saying.
But then, the Ukrainian ambassador to Australia tells us the deal Zelensky is about to sign is actually originally a proposal from Ukraine…
So. It’s likely Johnson had a hand in writing the Ukrainian proposal that is now midwifed by Trump.
Some points made by Johnson in his November interview:
§|~ Security guarantees
7m15s
“…… the only thing that works is a NATO Article 5 guarantee…”
… the only future for Ukraine ……the only long term solution is to give them that protection
9m30s
Frozen Russian assets . Should be given to Ukraine.
11m
UK broke the taboo on lethal weaponry. And this is commendable.
Istanbul Talks treaty [Bart Simpson defence: I didn’t do it. No one saw me do it. You can’t prove anything”]
Johnson insists vigorously that the preposterous idea he scuttled the early 2022 talks is Russian lies…
Johnson spends most of this vehement denial with his arms {defensively} crossed. Very interesting body language.
Is Putin Hitler or Stalin.?
BJ. He’s Hitler
Zelensky is Churchillian in his leadership ability.
Storm shadow.. we should have broken the taboo. It’s nonsense that Ukraine hasn’t been given everything it needs to succeed.
Escalation. Is not a concern. Reject this outright. It’s bollocks.
Putin won’t use nukes.
Our (the UK/ west failure is failure to escalate fast enough
Johnson: “We are waging a proxy war, and we are not giving our proxies … we’ve had them fight with one hand tied behind their backs, and it’s been cruel“
What needs to happen to get this thing done
1. We need to give them the weapons they need ……- er, without coming into direct conflict with the Russians ourselves…-
2. We need to give them the money- 300billion …… actually we should do more… construct a sort of lend lease loan of half a trillion or so…
~~ > {wait; what… 500billion…isn’t that the number Trump is now trumpeting?}
3. NATO.
Three things needed to finish this.
[interview then takes a diversion to the Chagos Islands
Johnson: the chagos islands are British. Mauritius is thousands of kilometres away {er, Boris, how far is Britain???]
Back to Ukraine.
BJ: “The only solution is victory”.
The interview:
>… Boris Johnson: British troops should help defend Ukraine’s border as part of any peace deal
The Telegraph yt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01DdfMqP4-g

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 11:40 utc | 314

The other half to that question is what is Putin’s political plan and does it align with the military’s plan?
Posted by: Skeletor | Feb 25 2025 17:20 utc | 11
The military is a tool to achieve the states political objectives by force.
In Feb 2022 the political objectives laid out by Putin were to stop the shelling of civilians in the Donbas and liberate the 2 Donbas oblasts that had declared independence by military force.
Demilitarize Ukraine.
Denazify Ukraine and turn it into a neutral state with no NATO membership.
Create a new security architecture for Europe.
The objectives haven’t changed since then except 2 more Oblasts were added to the liberation list. The military is taking care of the liberation and demilitarization objectives.
Denazification is a pipe dream … you can’t kill ideas with bullets.
A new security architecture could be imposed upon the west by a Russian military defeat of NATO but hopefully it’ll be achieved by negotiation.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 26 2025 11:42 utc | 315

Hoarsewhisper @ 312
You could well be right, i hope so.
I’v cut trump some slack lately, with that same thought in mind.
‘So far’ up to now he’s made the right noises re ukraine. Less so with Gaza.
As an optamist i put that down to dealing with one problem at a time. That chimes with what you say.
There are 3 major wars at the momment ukraine.
The middle east.
And the jews.
They are all connected.
And effect each and every one of us.
Cheers and hang on in there long timer.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 11:47 utc | 316

Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Feb 26 2025 5:25 utc | 260
The USD is the biggest strength and biggest weak spot of the USA.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:12 utc | 267
Your statement is paradoxical, yet it is spot on!

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 26 2025 10:44 utc | 302
The paradox is resolved by bringing time into the equation

There ought to be some kind of axiom concerning how paradoxes are nothing much more than (artificially?) constrained statements …or something like that.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2025 11:56 utc | 317

Neil Oliver hosted Douglas Macgregor 20250217 a week ago
Macgregor as usually said some pertinent truths
like e g that the anglosphere is inundated by lies.
and they hinted that the US/UK are both bancrupted
while the BRICS countries are hoarding gold
Macgregor mentioned that when Germany wanted to bring their gold home they got only 40% of it but somehow where content with that
A great character and truth teller like Macgregor will never be president I fear.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 11:59 utc | 318

@ Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2025 11:31 utc | 312
“Trump wants America to be governed for the benefit of Americans, not Jewrael’s jews.”
Don’t you think Trump should start by disabusing the tens of millions of Americans who daily live by eschatological doomsday demanding Zionist Christian Fundamentalism madness in America?
These pilgrim Americans hiding in the interior states with their multiple guns and bullet vending machines?
You know? The crazed evangelical Judaeophobes raised for ever to hate Judaism and Jews as happy clappy Jesus Christian Holy Roman Empires brainwashed – even if they are Protestant or even newer versions as deluded but powerful Yankee Doodles that determine the governance of America, through its ridiculous version of ‘democratic’ voting systems.
You know? The ones praying, and paying, for the rapture and second coming; so only they and their long dead rotted forefathers will be raised from their fetid graves to some great heaven by the Gods of the Jews! The Son Of that God – of the Jews!
Could you perhaps try and blame the Yankee doodles as much as the illegal apartheid Entity’s Settler Colonialists – dragged there by the US and allies, as much as the original murdering settler colonialists were to the nascent America The Brave from Europe under that pseudo religious freedom for that eras crazed neo Judaeo-Christian goobledygook neo churches.
In short why always try to introduce the ‘AS’ trope? It only makes MoA a easy victim to that accusation.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 26 2025 12:03 utc | 319

LoveDonbass’ 90% of what Trump says is bullshit rule proves right once again:
From Rybar:

Donald Trump officially stated that the US is “right now” not providing any defense assistance to Kiev.
Various global media immediately began quoting his words, but they have no relation to reality.
A couple of days ago, we wrote that despite the seemingly anti-Ukrainian rhetoric from Washington, American weapons continue to arrive in the so-called Ukraine in the same volume as before.
American planes have been and continue to deliver military cargo for the AFU to the transit point at the Rzeszów airfield in Poland.
Of course, the Trump administration, known for its sensationalism and speed of decision-making, may at some point actually cut off arms supplies to Kyiv – for example, if Zelenskyy again proves too intractable and does not sign that notorious deal on rare earth metals.
However, the press has already trumpeted that the president of the so-called Ukraine is going to Washington on Friday, and Trump himself hinted that the future agreement with Ukraine on resources could be valued at $1 trillion.
Given these realities, arms supplies to Kyiv are unlikely to end at least until summer (after all, the $4 billion allocated by Biden has already been allocated under contracts), and hostilities will not cease until Russia and the US sign a comprehensive agreement to end the Ukrainian conflict.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 12:06 utc | 320

Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 25 2025 18:33 utc | 57
Excellent post, you explain it better than I. Consider adding in how much money his group is accumulating.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 26 2025 12:08 utc | 321

The EU puppet court system in Romania has reportedly arrested the most-likely-to-win presidential candidate Georgescu.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2025 12:24 utc | 322

NATO A330 from Cologne
https://www.flightradar24.com/MMF45/39452bbc
US Army Cessna UC-35A
https://www.flightradar24.com/DUKE63/394531ad
At Rzeszow.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 12:39 utc | 323

In politics there are no plans. Merely the constant balancing act of pleasing many factions.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 26 2025 12:39 utc | 324

While Polish Border Force helicopter is patrolling the Ukrainian border, presumably to stop escaping Ukrainians.
https://www.flightradar24.com/39452afe

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 12:41 utc | 325

Brit Rivet Joint over the Black Sea
https://www.flightradar24.com/RRR7226/3944b7b0
These flights, whether Brit, US or US drone, tend to mean drone or missile strikes upcoming on Russia.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 12:44 utc | 326

The EU puppet court system in Romania has reportedly arrested the most-likely-to-win presidential candidate Georgescu.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2025 12:24 utc | 322
So democracy, much wow. And the europeons will swallow it and say thank you sir may I have another. AfD and elections in Germany, a total joke, no need to ban the party when the NPCs vote how they vote.

Romanian presidential candidate Călin Georgescu has been detained as a suspect in a case involving allegations of threatening the constitutional order, establishing a fascist organization, and falsifying campaign financing sources.
This information was reported by the Romanian outlet News, citing unnamed sources.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 12:45 utc | 327

Arch Bungle @ 324
Thats deep man !
And i get it.
Heaven forbid, if i was to put my self in trumps shoes id have to please my ground root voters (now totaly redundent)
The jews, the capatilst including the elon musk types.
The military and their investers. Ect ect ect.
Lobby groups.
Solution….
Hijack trump….
Hence.. since trumps intervention in ukraine he is the leader of antifa and loves commie’s.
Not nessersarly true, but it sure winds up his followers.
Yaaaay.
Devide and rule baby.
Works both ways.
Dont tell anyone i said so.😎

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 12:53 utc | 328

Atlas Air Freighter (usually military cargo) from Dover AFB at Rzeszow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/CMB385/3944987d.
For a nation that’s apparently looking for peace they’re mighty busy – or has there been a big strike somewhere and its medevac?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 12:59 utc | 329

Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 26 2025 11:42 utc | 315
Denazification is a pipe dream … you can’t kill ideas with bullets.

Of course you can. Just make bullets pass thru the all the heads having those ideas.
Example: the Japanese had the idea that they were following a God Emperor and the idea was killed with bullets, bombs and nukes.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 26 2025 13:03 utc | 330

Not sure if this has been posted in a previous comment, but Trump just announced this:
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US and Ukraine agree to a bilateral pact that codifies long-term US financing and a de facto ‘security guarantee,’ US weapons continue flowing, Trump says Ukraine can “fight on,” and now Trump is framing the continuation of US support as a great deal for US taxpayers because now we’re supposedly going to make a lot of money from rare earth minerals in the Donbas
https://x.com/mtracey/status/1894538141543141871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1894538141543141871%7Ctwgr%5Eb2a4f22fae6fdf5192afcf7939255ae9159264b8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nakedcapitalism.com%2F2025%2F02%2Flinks-2-26-2025.html
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I read a couple of the first comments in this thread and then gave up for lack of time, but I did catch one that said Trump obviously hates the loss of life because he is a human – something to that effect,
Trump does not give a rat’s ass about the loss of human life. Trump is completely consumed by the lust for money and power. Too bad he is an imbecile and cruel as well; it makes life for the rest of us unnecessarily painful and short.

Posted by: teri | Feb 26 2025 13:08 utc | 331

Trump does not give a rat’s ass about the loss of human life. Trump is completely consumed by the lust for money and power. Too bad he is an imbecile and cruel as well; it makes life for the rest of us unnecessarily painful and short.
Posted by: teri | Feb 26 2025 13:08 utc | 331
Oh boy, I hope you have a flak jacket on for all the shit you’re going to get from the resident trump cultists. Trump is even boasting about the Javelins and dissing Obama for not giving weapons to Ukraine, lmao.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 13:13 utc | 332

b, As soon as you quoted Yves Smith I stopped reading. Why not just go to the originals? As for the comment section, thank you Lords and Ladies for all your efforts. To teri #331 I think you’re right. Trump just lifted the restriction on selling arms to
countries which might be violating international law. What ever that means and when has murika ever restricted weapons sales in fact, or respected international law in fact. But it is indeed a statement of policy. I also read that President Musk has now instructed Starlink, of which he is CEO, to take over the FAA. Cheers.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Feb 26 2025 13:33 utc | 333

The key to Trump’s comments regarding sustained military and financial support for Ukraine is his last statement that a deal with Russia is imminent.
Sustained military and financial support is inconsistent with his foreign and domestic plans; it is merely a ploy to gain a bargaining chip in ongoing negotiations with Russia. A secondary effect and possible quid pro quo) was Republican political support for his budget, passed by the House a day earlier.

Posted by: Ciaran | Feb 26 2025 13:36 utc | 334

Anyone remember Tricky Dick Nixon and “I have a plan.” His plan was basically GTFO with a fig leaf of Vietnamization.
He did it. By time he was re-elected the American force in Vietnam was militarily insignificant and hunkered down doing nothing. Had Watergate not intervened the withdrawal process would have been completed in an orderly fashion two years before the North threw US forces out.
Trump has no plan. GTFO is the only option. How difficult or how simple that will be depends on domestic political considerations and personalities. Lots will continue to die because of pigheadedness.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 26 2025 13:48 utc | 335

IMO, This deal with Zelenski guarantees the war will go on..more likely it informs Putin that to achieve SMO goals in Ukraine Putin is going to have to settle with all of NATO.. all of it.. everyone in NATO is going to have to sign off as well as USA backed Ukraine, before Russia can enjoy any peace..
Likely, the name of Ukraine vs Russia war just changed to be NATO vs Russia war. After NATO fails to defeat Russia, the war will likely evolve into a world war. Russia must go down. The goal seems to be to continue until Putin steps down or Russia folds and a Western trojan can be made head of Russia.. the slow go SMO will continue as Russia prepares to defend itself from NATO.
If I were in a NATO nation I would be learning Russian.. in order to be able to read “made in Russia” printed on the missiles I am likely to see raining down around me.
IMO, the killing fields in Ukraine cleared the non standard military equipment out of NATO closets and bought the time NATO needed to engineer and standardize its military equipment and training NATO wide. Each nation in Europe will be tasked to manufacture and supply some part of the military equipment needed to fight Russia.. That’s why the 5% of a NATO countries budget to military is the new rule.

Posted by: snake | Feb 26 2025 13:56 utc | 336

Neil Oliver hosted Douglas Macgregor 20250217 a week ago
Macgregor as usually said some pertinent truths
like that the US/UK are both bankrupted
while the BRICS countries are hoarding gold.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 11:59 utc | 318
And you were stupid enough to fall for that nonsense. Dearie me. Macgregor wears gold standard, fixed exchange rate type goggles 24/7. That makes him a complete idiot. He’s never understood modern money because his first education at West Point brainwashed him. Ritter is exactly the same.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 13:58 utc | 337

I believe the whole mineral deal is a sham, cloak and dagger operation, intended to put immense pressure on Zelensky and the whole apparatus and European leaders married to the project, to commit themselves to distance themselves from the US, so he can pass it off as a reciprocal and measures response as he withdraws from post 1999 Nato in baby steps

Posted by: Mac_Chiavelli | Feb 26 2025 14:00 utc | 338

a deal with Russia is imminent
Posted by: Ciaran | Feb 26 2025 13:36 utc | 334
A deal on normalizing relations with Russia? Possibly. A deal on Ukraine? Not bloody likely, if you read and listen to what both Lavrov and Putin said recently.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 14:01 utc | 339

The best way to do the analsis is in my opinion not to look at things in terms of peace proposals. Everyone wants to stop figthing. What is now on the table is the age old end-of-party question of “who’s paying the bills”. Security is not about war, some wall or a “credible” deterence (not in the nucleair age). This is all about financial security, about not collapsing because of internal strife, about not bleeding empty because of thousand cuts and broken infrastructure.
Once one understands this, all talk about which billions go where and whose “policing” soldiers will be in what place makes more sense. It’s about how to (re-)build a state. Russia is not going to stop a war with some insane, broken rump state next door. The road to peace is a plan for partitioning without calling it partitioning. It’s about talking over Ukraine without calling it “taking over”.
Now the mineral plan makes sense? The carving knives are out. The war finished already a while back in terms of unavoidable outcome. When there’s no other outcome, more fighting makes no sense. Although right now operations are performed from last year’s planning. But after that?
Of course, people still fight over the bill, sometimes way louder than they did during all of the dinner.

Posted by: John Dowser | Feb 26 2025 14:08 utc | 340

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 11:59 utc | 318
I bet you Neil Oliver’s audience ( the taxes fund government spending brigade) lapped it all up. Brainwashed out of their tiny little minds.
They all think it works like this
Here:
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/alt2.png
A ten year old child would put their hand up and ask ” but hang on a minute how does the PS private sector pot get filled up.
Not Neil Oliver’s audience though, dumb as a bag of spanners.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 14:11 utc | 341

re: backstop
I think foreclosed is a better word.
The orange man just foreclosed on Ukraine (h/t Amb. Freeman)

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 26 2025 14:23 utc | 342

Of course, people still fight over the bill, sometimes way louder than they did during all of the dinner.
Posted by: John Dowser | Feb 26 2025 14:08 utc | 340
They are not fighting over the bill because full monetary sovereign countries that issue their own currencies are not like a household sitting around a dinner table. They create money they don’t have to work for it.
It is a smoke screen. Pure propaganda to freeze the conflict then legitimise the security guarantees.
Question :
What’s the difference between….
a) Marching an army in and claiming Ukraine real resources for themselves.
b) Ukraine Joining the EU and then foreign companies owning the real resources via privatisations.
When one is considered theft and breaks international law. The other is lawful and considered the normal way of things and good right wing business practice.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 14:23 utc | 343

Dima’s morning video confirmed my thinking in #251. Dima made an even better observation that all power of governments has to come from somewhere, either the people, or by force, or the Pope, or back to ancient England, the King.
Because Ukraine is ostensibly a democracy, like the US or France, all power and authority originates from the people. And since he canceled elections, Zelensky is thereby illegitimate and has no authority to bind any parties to an agreement. Further, Dima says that Zelensky forced the legislature (Z. Rada) to commit a criminal act by passing some fig-leaf measure to say that he is still the legitimate leader.
Because this act was done by the legislature, not the people in an election, it has de-legitimized the V. Rada as well as Zelensky.
I encourage everyone to watch the opening 5 mins or so to understand better the game being played here. This is about Zelensky’s political survival, and Trump building a narrative. There are no security guarantees, and other than allowing reputational rescue for both Trump and Zelensky, there is no consideration in the deal therefore it is “null and void” and not worth the paper it is written on.

Final deal … would create a fund where Kiev contributes 50% of proceeds from future state-owned resources monetization.
Existing revenue from Naftogaz and Ukronegro, the richest companies of Ukraine revenues are excluded … notably, US security guarantees are absent. With key terms on ownership and stake left for followup.

Note the future tense: would create a fund. This is a classic “illusory promise” which courts do not tolerate. There is no consideration on either side. It’s all BS.
I do have to give Zelensky credit for at least getting a better deal for himself, personally. This gives him political cover to stick around. And note how private companies are excluded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOJB5271rqg

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 26 2025 14:25 utc | 344

The Kremlin is so happy that the West is talking to them again.
The Russians are offering to do business with the West and mine the natural resources together. Western companies are soon to be granted far-reaching concessions and mining rights.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 26 2025 14:30 utc | 345

@ Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 13:58 utc | 337
@ Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 14:11 utc | 341
I wasnt primarily thinking about details in finance. The overindebted anglosaxons you protect need somebody to redirect attention from all the gross criminality from which their dominance has depended sofar.
It was all about successfully playing rivals against each other and infiltration. The anglosaxons controlled freemasonry during a critical era and the rivals naively let the anglosaxons infiltrate them.
A number of assassinations took out those who might have stopped it. In all major countries.
The anglosaxons inherited the tricks from the venetian oligarchy. Those in turn inherited the mindset from Rome and before that from Babylon. So the anglosaxon empire is a revival of Babylon sort of.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 14:34 utc | 346

Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 26 2025 14:30 utc | 345
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit?
Go back and listen to Dima’s video, or read what I just posted:
PRIVATE COMPANIES ARE EXCLUDED!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 26 2025 14:35 utc | 347

Western companies are soon to be granted far-reaching concessions and mining rights.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 26 2025 14:30 utc | 345
Are all sanctions against Russia going to be lifted soon too? Because that’s Russia’s condition for any western business coming back, you’d know that if you’ve actually read more then headlines. Don’t let that interrupt you from your vargassing though.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 14:36 utc | 348

90% of the public think this is the truth
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/alt2.png
When the actual truth is this
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/alt6.png
Fully sovereign nation states like US, UK Japan , Canada, Russia, Australia , New Zealand etc, etc
Operate like this
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/alt9.png
This is Why there has been so much confusion about the deal between Trumpian Phoneyfart and the clown. 90% of the public are brainwashed sheep.
Once you fully understand it is not about money. Then you see it for what it really is.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 14:36 utc | 349

The ‘rare earth’ discusion is a red herring. A trojen horse, hiding an american, western, europe, uk land grab, a meens to sneak nato into ukraine under tbe disguse of trade.
Rare earths arent rare as in valuble,or scares. thats a mistaken and deliberatly used deception. A wrong definition.
‘Rare earths’ are called such’ from a completly different definition… meaning ‘thin’ or spread thinly. examples that come to mind….
Rare atmosphere, as in thin.
Rare stake, as in lighty cooked.
Both of those have nothing to do with value,
Rare earths are used or applied very thinly.
Getit.
Im sure our reident mineralolagist canock can confirm or deny this important distinction.
Its not nit picking, it serves to show the con we see over the ukraine rare earth con trick.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 14:40 utc | 350

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 25 2025 19:45 utc | 97
Profound. And very, very good.

Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 26 2025 14:44 utc | 351

Here’s some crayons to play with for those that still can’t grasp Trumpian Phoneyfart and the clowns deal.
DIAGRAMS & DOLLARS: modern money illustrated (Part 1)
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/01/diagrams-dollars-modern-money-illustrated-part-1.html
DIAGRAMS & DOLLARS: modern money illustrated (Part 2)
https://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/01/diagrams-dollars-modern-money-illustrated-part-2.html
The complete opposite of what you were taught as they captured you walking through the school gates at the age of 5 and trained you like a little puppy dog until you were nearly 20.
So you serve your elites and push their interests every time you walk into a voting boothe.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 14:46 utc | 352

Sun of Alabama@349……please, your interpretation of ‘sovereign’.
Japan is not Sovereign, them be Yankees occupying Japan.
New Zealand is not Sovereign being part of the Imperial Commonwealth
Australia is not sovereign, being part of the Imperial Commonwealth
Canada is not by any stretch of the imagination….. Sovereign. It too belongs to the Imperial Commonwealth, aka, The House of Windsor.
Is the US sovereign, as sovereign as Russia?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 26 2025 14:47 utc | 353

I’ve been kicking around that Trump is trying to create a modern version of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. In the original Molotov–Ribbentrop pact Germany and the Soviet Union, signed a temporary non-aggression pact and agreed to divide Poland between the two of them. The Soviets wanted parts of Poland to provide strategic depth to delay the invasion from Germany once the war began and it wanted the non-aggression pact to buy time to reorganize its army and economy for the upcoming war. German wanted back the territory it had lost at the end of WW1 (plus some extra as interest) but it also wanted a non-aggression pact so it could focus on trying to convince England and France to join Germany in declaring war on the Soviet Union.
I think the US is attempting something similar here, cut a deal with the Russians to divide Ukraine between them. Russia will get something like 80-90% of what it wants but the US’s real goal is a (temporary) non-aggression pact with Russia so the US can beat the Europeans & Canadians into line and pillage them economically. The US will recapitalize itself with wealth stolen from the Europeans and then confront the Chinese and Russians in another 5-10 yrs. This time using the desperate and impoverished European masses as cannon fodder.

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 26 2025 14:53 utc | 354

I am somewhat surprised many intelligent people are confused by what is going on.
Everyone seems comfortable characterizing the western political shows as “kayfabe”, but have you actually watched any pro wrestling events for real? The show is much much more than two guys in spandex pretending to beat each other up in a ring. Overarching narratives for the whole show of the good guys vs the bad guys are carefully created and nurtured by everyone involved, from the wrestlers themselves of course, to their coaches and promoters, to the ringside announcers, and even the ring girls holding up the round numbers get in on developing the narrative. Even the audience gets in on the act by suspending disbelief, yelling obscenities while the referee is distracted by the bad guy’s coach as the bad guy performs “illegal” moves on the good guy and such like.
Basically, the kayfabe performances from Trump’s past that inform his current political performances are more sophisticated than people unfamiliar with the art form realize.
Trump was brought in back in 2016 to play the bad guy in the election as a theatrical foil for Clinton; a “heel” as they say backstage in the pro wrestling industry. Things didn’t go as planned, though, and despite Clinton being given all possible advantages in the show, she failed to engage the audience. $billions in marketing didn’t sell that shit sandwich.
Try to wrap your heads around that: Trump knowingly entered the election to play a “bad guy”. He is still playing that role. Keep in mind, though, that roles can be reversed in elaborate performances, and it is the audience’s role in the performance to act surprised.
So everything we see from Trump is just an act? To a degree, that is the case; however, where in pro wrestling we see a performer jump in the ring and clubbing the crooked referee over the head with a folding chair, the blood being spilled now is real rather than little packets of red glycerin hidden in the players’ palms. The fight has become real, but for the audience’s sake the show must go on.
But because the fight between Trump and the Establishment is real, does that mean Trump is a socialist revolutionary? Of course not! Trump is a capitalist (and represents a faction of capitalists) fighting with other capitalists for control over the Empire’s steering wheel. Trump is trying to save the Empire, or at least as much of it as he can.
With that in mind, realize that Trump (and his faction in the capitalist oligarchy) doesn’t care who wins in the war in the Ukraine. Sure, they would prefer that the side the US has been backing win, but they are realistic enough to know that is impossible, so they just want to cut losses and get the US out. Trump’s minerals-for-US-support deal isn’t intended to be signed. It is intended to be a deal to terrible for the Ukraine to agree to, and The Ukraine’s refusal gives the US the pretext to walk away. “Hey, you want American boys in the Ukrainian trenches? Their lives are expensive, you know!”
So the Trump team had nothing to offer in Riyadh? Realistically speaking, what could they offer? American promises? After decades of lies, American promises are not worth the breath used to utter them. Only a fool thinks the Russians will accept American promises for anything now. Is Trump a fool? No, so he didn’t waste time with worthless promises. The only possible resolution to the war in the Ukraine is the Ukraine’s unconditional surrender to Russia, and the sooner the US disengages from the fight the sooner that resolution can come about. This is complicated by the need for the US to maintain the illusion of the #1 global big shot, so lots of bluster is called for.
So yes, much of what we are seeing are just performances for the audience. Different audiences get different performances, so don’t try to reconcile them. Instead, look at who the intended audiences are to understand the point of the performances.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 26 2025 14:56 utc | 355

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 26 2025 13:03 utc | 330
That’s Androcide … Gengis Khan had success with that too. Lets hope Bibi doesn’t read MOA … we don’t want to put any ideas in his head. 😉

Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 26 2025 15:01 utc | 356

snake@336….good idea, Russia hasn’t go a clue how to find the, remember this SlogMow joke, Command and Control centres. So yes, every day EUrs should be afraid, very afraid, cause Russia will kill them first,they don’t bother killing those that control the war that kills Russians just as well as it kills Ukies.
Putin flouted trading lost Russian lives for…….money? SlogMow joke of the day.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 26 2025 15:03 utc | 357

It is clear to the US and NATO that the Ukraine war is not going to end soon. As soon as Russia stated that there will be no ceasefire without a negotiated agreement, the situation was clear. So now Trump has to continue to supply Ukraine with weapons till a deal is reached. This minerals deal is nothing but a fig leaf to justify the continuation of arms supply. Why is Europe so against a deal with Russia? I think that this is the only unifying point for Europe and is required to prevent Europe from falling apart into 27 constituents. It also keeps the far right at bay from the Social Democrats, which all the ruling parties are, no matter what they call themselves.
I am not worried about Ukraine. Russia is in the driver’s seat. The worry is, can Trump keep the Zionists at bay? I agree with many who state that Trump wants peace in the Middle East. But, as I have mentioned in another thread, he has to handle Congress and the Senate delicately. Most of the members are under the thumb of AIPAC. So, he has to tread softly. He has to keep seeming to support the Zionists, while working hard to ensure that the ceasefire holds and peace prevails. If he succeeds, I am confident he will f**k Bibi in due course of time. Remember how to begin the process he released Sachs video where Bibi is called all sorts of names?
I am no Trumpist (far from it), but I support his efforts to bring peace in Ukraine and in Palestine.

Posted by: gb_grave | Feb 26 2025 15:16 utc | 358

Another reason for Trump’s seeming inaction/lack of plan is that he knows getting any treaty ratified that can be interpreted as the US being the loser will have little chance of getting the required 2/3s Senate approval. That’s a very real consideration I’ve seen no one mention. In other words, attaining peace with Russia doesn’t depend on Trump; it depends on the US Senate.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 21:40 utc | 158

But – if I didn’t totally misunderstand your statements – the US doesn’t have to sign any peace treaty with Russia? They are not officially in any military conflict with one another. Surely it must be Ukraine that signs such a treaty. Which it will have to do once the military situation dictates it – or, perhaps, US forces it to do so.

Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 26 2025 15:19 utc | 359

@ Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:53 utc | 264
thanks for the input melaleuca and for all your posts on this.. we will see what comes out of all this.. my take – russia is not going to be fooled by this or a jackass like boris johnson for that matter.. whatever he says is irrelevant..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2025 15:33 utc | 360

@ William Gruff | Feb 26 2025 14:56 utc | 355 quote –
“Trump’s minerals-for-US-support deal isn’t intended to be signed. It is intended to be a deal too terrible for the Ukraine to agree to, and The Ukraine’s refusal gives the US the pretext to walk away.”
that makes sense to me..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2025 15:47 utc | 361

Trump’s plan is to make the Ukraine conflict go away so it’s no longer his problem. He’ll push the chairs around the deck until either Zelensky or the EU give him enough of an excuse to walk away and wash his hands of the thing, and then he’ll do exactly that. As a result, the EU will end up owning a war without the US backing, with US tariffs, and with US untangling specific Russian sanctions that Trump decides are not in American business interests.
If the EU pisses him off enough, he’ll neuter US involvement in NATO and its military deployment. The only question is whether the intelligence community can head him off before he wrecks their framework more.
To the point of the post, however, an intent toward an aim is not a plan. So, no, Trump does not have a plan, unless coherently setting out to squeeze gonads until someone is willing to “own” Ukraine so he can step away. But generally speaking, I think he’d be ok making peace with Russia even if that doesn’t involve peace in Ukraine; he just doesn’t have a clear theory of that peace.
Trump could use a more thorough and honest review of how Russia ended up enemy 1, and who pushed that narrative since the 1820s….

Posted by: JC | Feb 26 2025 15:56 utc | 362

Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 26 2025 15:19 utc | 359
Damn straight, you’re 100% correct. Because the US never declared war on Ukraine, Trump doesn’t need their assent to end US involvement. He could end it today by executive order. Or just give the secretary of Defense an order to end all support, ISR, and pull out any CIA or military advisors.
Karlof1 made a rare boo-boo. It’s Ok, he’s human.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 26 2025 16:12 utc | 363

Posted by: JC | Feb 26 2025 15:56 utc | 362 The problem with Trump making a deal with Russia everywhere else in the world, starting with a general settlement in MENA (which means oil, which means in the end an arrangement about Russian oil sales to PRC,) is that Russia can’t walk away from Ukraine.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 26 2025 16:29 utc | 364

Trump’s minerals-for-US-support deal isn’t intended to be signed. It is intended to be a deal to terrible for the Ukraine to agree to, and The Ukraine’s refusal gives the US the pretext to walk away.
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 26 2025 14:56 utc | 355
None of this makes much sense. From what everyone says, if the US walks away, Ukraine will lose the war and thus lose the minerals anyway. Ukraine has to know that. Ukraine will definitely sign if the deal is that they get US full support if they do sign and no support if they don’t. I bet Zelencky will sell his mother for US support at this point.
But the deal is crazy, nobody gets anything without peace and stability. The same was true of all the mineral wealth of Afghanistan. If the US signs isn’t the war just extending for like 20 years and then nobody gets anything?
Besides all that, neither Ukraine or the US can be trusted to abide by any deal they make.

Posted by: jinn | Feb 26 2025 16:33 utc | 365

Posted by: JC | Feb 26 2025 15:56 utc | 362
“how Russia ended up enemy 1, and who pushed that narrative since the 1820s….”
From 1917 to 1991 or so Russia wasn’t enemy #1, indeed “the left” supported it, sometimes at extreme danger to their lives and liberty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 17:48 utc | 366

https://www.flightradar24.com/RRR7226/3944b7b0
RAF Rivet Joint heading back to Waddington after a hard day on the Black Sea coast.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 17:56 utc | 367

Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 25 2025 23:31 utc | 196
Excellent summary of the negotiating process.
$USD = MIC = Energy
Posted by: Markw | Feb 25 2025 23:37 utc | 199
There is an approximately equal sign that is a wavy = sign. Good equation!

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 26 2025 18:03 utc | 368

Still very slow progress in Chasov Yar, in Torestsk Ukraine are counter-attacking.
https://t.me/geromanat/45342

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 26 2025 20:19 utc | 369

367 – Interesting that the RAF Rivet Joint 707 has not flown that route in a week. I am assuming that due to the decrepit condition of the RAF they only have the ability to put one bird at a time into the air for their Black Sea adventure.
Under fighter escort too (?), notice that they do not now approach the Crimea timeline………oh my those nasty S400’s can certainly sting……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 26 2025 20:29 utc | 370

366 – Always found it interesting that when concerned Senators and Congressmen were alerted by FBI CIC agents that there was a substantial group of Soviet agents in the US, the left wing Demos immediately accused the Senators and Congressmen of creating a “Red Scare”.
The reality, proven in the courts and years later by the Soviet archives was that there was indeed a robust Soviet spy network inside the DOD, DOS and CIA.
The convictions and executions of the Rosenberg’s proves that point very well indeed.
Hollywood and the MSM continue to gaslight the American by using the alcoholic Senator Joe “Tailgunner Joe” McCarthy as a foil…….but history shows he was correct, even his numbers of spies was over estimated by half……….
How ironic that the left Demos and neo cons are now united in their glorification of a fascist regime in Kieve headed by a non Christian, lousy sophomoric comedian/actor accused of arresting and torturing Orthodox Christians……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 26 2025 20:47 utc | 371

366 – Just referring to the post WWII period……………

Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 26 2025 20:51 utc | 372

Trump must nurture and protect the Rare Earths Team. One excuse is as good as another, but this one takes the whole cake.
Trump Will End His Option of Walking Away from Project Ukraine with His Minerals Deal
Posted on February 26, 2025 by Yves Smith
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/02/trump-will-end-his-option-of-walking-away-from-project-ukraine-with-his-minerals-deal.html

Posted by: elmagnostic | Feb 26 2025 23:28 utc | 373

Imo, the whole US<>UKR resources contract, plus most other pronouncements, are just Trump’s domestic PR kabuki —
“Biden threw your money away. I’m going to get it back”. [He actually isn’t, but it sounds feasible to ignoramuses].
“Zelensky was a freeloader. I’ll never let a freeloader rob the US treasury again”. [It’s all anti-Dem payback].
“NATO is the same. They’ve been freeloading off us for decades. But no more! It’s their continent to protect, their bill”. [The books will balance better once Europe buys MIC and energy from the US].
“The US has been scammed by past trade agreements. I’m gunna tarrif [verb] the shit out of them all to MAGA”. [He will publically say it, initially lay tarrifs on, get pleading and compromises from the victims, then quietly walk them back to reality. But the PR lives on.
Trump just says stuff. His primary audience is daily press briefings and nightly news. But the ROW always takes it literally, thinks it’s relevant to them, and gets up in arms. Such is the power of US rhetoric. The only two resistive adults are Putin and Xi. That’s why The Kremlin now feels it’s necessary to contradict Trump’s statements almost daily.
Has anyone else noticed that, pre-SMO, the Kremlin used to ignore it all from Washington. But since 2022, the global Russophobic spin has become too much to ignore. It’s beautiful to hear Putin and Peskov. Lavrov and Zhakarova, countering the Western bullshit.

Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 26 2025 23:40 utc | 374

So lets see now…..Volo is flying to DC to sign off on the mineral rights deal engineered by DJT …….he is signing his own death warrant……is he really that dumb…..OMG!
After he signs off DJT will drag him Volo around the room like a wolf with a rabbit………Volo is a moron.
The upside about this incident is that the fascist regime in Kieve is now DOA……

Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 27 2025 3:10 utc | 375

is it safe to assume Russia won’t take the bait of US offer to end sanctions as a tool in exchange for distancing ties with China. They’ve been fooled before

Posted by: willow | Feb 27 2025 4:11 utc | 376

Let us be clear, the SMO is, even with all the money and arms and sheep dipped mercs, just a detail.
The main effort was a continental blockade, and as napoleon’s failed, so did the current one.
Posted by: Newbie | Feb 26 2025 11:24 utc | 309
A toast everyone…
If China and India had followed the US lead, Russia as led by Putin may very well not exist.
There ought to be some kind of axiom concerning how paradoxes are nothing much more than (artificially?) constrained statements …or something like that.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2025 11:56 utc | 317
The value of paradoxes is hinting at the reality obscured by mental constructs. I enjoyed someone posting, to paraphrase, that time unwinds some paradoxes.

Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 27 2025 5:39 utc | 377

Trump’s plan is quite transparent if you stop listening to what he says at any given time, and think about what he actually does.
1) Trump is actually talking to the Russians.
2) Trump has made it so that Ukraine must pay for any future arms deliveries. The hook for past spending is typical hard bargaining behavior. This is more subtle than it seems, because the present setup means the US can claim payments from other countries supporting Ukraine i.e. Europe even if they don’t buy arms directly from the US to send to Ukraine.
3) The link to payments means Trump can stop sending stuff when Ukraine inevitably breaks the agreement. The Ukrainians obviously are thinking they can tap dance around this agreement but it is a hard stop because it gives Trump the legitimate excuse that Ukraine has broken its agreements.
4) From a bargaining with Russia perspective: those advocating for walking away are bad negotiators. While Russia absolutely holds the strongest cards, it is also absolutely true that Ukraine could keep fighting if kept supplied with money and arms.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 27 2025 9:03 utc | 378

Let us be clear, the SMO is, even with all the money and arms and sheep dipped mercs, just a detail.
The main effort was a continental blockade, and as napoleon’s failed, so did the current one.
Posted by: Newbie | Feb 26 2025 11:24 utc | 309
A toast everyone…
If China and India had followed the US lead, Russia as led by Putin may very well not exist.
Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 27 2025 5:39 utc | 378
The economy would have been hit much harder and RF instead of sailing calmly through the sanctions could have been internally problematic. Don’t forget how India (in spite of stating it’s aligned with the us) has allowed (and richly profited from) a huge part of oil sales, and as for china, even with all constraints, from electronics to new state of the art factories… yes, things would have been different. Plan A or plan B (putin missing critical material or money for the SMO and for keeping russians happy) could have worked… but it didn’t and there was no plan C.
Not saying a north korea option couldn’t work, but would be much much harder and problematic to sustain current RF society. As it is, a toast.

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 27 2025 9:36 utc | 379

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 26 2025 14:56 utc | 355
By Jove Billy! You have it!! 100 percent concur with that assessment. You call it kayfabe I call it pantomime.
Or the kiddies pier show – Punch and Judy.
Clintons and Drumpff old NewYork golfing buddies.
All that nonsense about pussy grabbing and porn star fucking, even the golden showers and Russian agent crap – seems to have been done to enable the easy sun for La Clinton Killary bloody hand Lady MacBeth.
Trumps job was to make sure no Republican would be on the ballot so many Republican guaranteed voters would once in a lifetime not vote or might even flip to the cakling killer of Libya!
Maybe the grey suits and cigar smokers decided she really was too gaga and might go full apocalypse on her watch…
Maybe they hadn’t yet perfected the postal vote or machine fraud.
Trump looked as aghast as anyone when he suddenly was announced as winner while ready to finish his stint and return to TeeVee and Hotel and Golf course building as he was promised.
But he couldn’t stand down and say that Hillary really deserved it and it was all a sham! Could he? He had to proceed with the charade and take office. The DS would make sure they would handle all the day to day stuff- he could just enjoy his four years and make it easier for the next servant to have the presidency…
The released emails that proved the fakery of Bernie’s stand against Hillary were the only genuine part of that 2016 election.
The pantomime carried on – was it the Russiagate and Resistance that seemed to get Donald’s Trousers in a twist?
Or was it being told by Obama that he was supposed to start the long planned war against Russia? That seemed to upset The Donald the first time round when he exited his preinaugural meeting and present exchange with the 5th CIA potus in a row!
That would explain his inauguration speech – ‘some weird shit’ as Bush Baby said to his Daddy the CIA presidential killer.
Either way he did his term, he allowed the charade to continue, enabling Bidens bid, allowing all the Russiagate, the fake server investigations, the Syria attack, the continued China wind up, even being muted by twatter to stop his MAGA clown worshippers from voting for him again … everything except the unleashing of the long planned ukropian folly!
Maybe he really is a Russian stooge!
He really wanted to get back… to do what? Hotels and Golf Course appear to be on the back burner now. His son Baron being harrassed by the FBI storming in could have been the final straw. No one has told me what young Baron whispered to sleepy Joe on the inaugural stage as he walked off and left the Old Man looking very sad! Anyone?
Cheers.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 27 2025 11:37 utc | 380

There are 3 major wars at the momment ukraine.
The middle east.
And the jews.
They are all connected.
And effect each and every one of us.
Cheers and hang on in there long timer.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 11:47 utc | 316
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Yes, except you didn’t mention the most important one:
The war with the Deep/Administrative state and Dem “resistance” in the USA.
And Jewish power also involved there.
In fact, Jewish control of cash and narrative is a factor in all four wars. Think of a cat’s cradle.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 27 2025 20:21 utc | 381

IMO, This deal with Zelenski guarantees the war will go on..more likely it informs Putin that to achieve SMO goals in Ukraine Putin is going to have to settle with all of NATO.. all of it.. everyone in NATO is going to have to sign off as well as USA backed Ukraine, before Russia can enjoy any peace… . .
Posted by: snake | Feb 26 2025 13:56 utc | 336
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Trump has totally effed up any peace process with with his greed for Uke assets.
And for what? Zel is not the legal president of Uke and cannot sign any deals.
Maybe Trump signed the deal, knowing that the counterparty has not standing, to placate the peanut gallery back home.
However, the peanut gallery is now going to exert a lot of pressure to run some kind of a sham election in the Ukraine.
And we are right back where we started. And the Uke people still get shafted. Hopefully they will finally realize that they are best off in close association with Russia, and eff the USA and the UK and the EU.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 27 2025 20:36 utc | 382

Republicofscotland | Feb 25 2025 19:51 utc | 100 (quoting)
*** “French Pres. Macron … saying at a White House press conference on Monday: “No one in this room wants to live in a world where … international borders can be violated from one day to the next by anyone.”” ***
So when is Macron going to demand the IDF quit what it’s doing?

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 28 2025 3:31 utc | 383