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February 25, 2025
Does Trump Really Have A Plan For Ukraine?

The weird thing about President Trump’s plans for Ukraine is that no knows what they actually are.

Over the last days I have tried to understand what he is trying to achieve. I fail to come up with a theory that makes sense. His behavior is inconsistent. There are also no helpful hints from the White House or leaks to the press. There is frenetic action here and there and pompous pronouncements. But what are the overall plans?

Prof. Mearsheimer likewise says (vid) that Trump’s behavior makes no sense. Blackmailing Ukraine into a resource extraction deal is not a realist position. It is not even mercantilistic. There is nothing to sell there and any deal will be scuppered by courts under oligarch pressure. It makes no sense.

So what is the evidence that Trump has a plan? What is the evidence that he is really negotiating with Russia? What is he factually doing to shut down the war as he has claimed he would do?

Yves Smith, quoting contrarian opinions of Brian Berletic and John Helmer, is likewise wondering what Trump is about:

Because the Trump Administration has no clear idea of what it wants in terms of a Ukraine end game, save being able to claim that Trump ended the war and is therefore a great deal-maker, it is at serious risk of falling into the behavior Sun Tsu warned about: “All tactics and no strategy is the noise before the defeat.”

Specifically, we’ll discuss how oddly under-amplified assessments by Brian Berletic and John Helmer, show that the idea, popular in the independent media, that Trump represents a great foreign policy break from the past is exaggerated. His difference in methods are being unduly confused with differences in aims.

But we’ll first address the way a new Administration pet fixation, that of wresting a minerals/other economic rights deal from Ukraine, is contrary to the aim of reaching an agreement with Russia.

Now this Ukraine minerals deal may be an example of Trump habits operating to his detriment. Consider how the Trump approach of maximizing his possible negotiating space by advancing all sorts of frame-breaking ideas is not such a hot idea when done reflexively, as seems to be the case in Trump 2.0, as opposed to deliberately.

Trump himself regularly threatens radically extreme actions, like ethnic cleansing in Gaza, and browbeats heads of state to try to get his way. Not only is Trump not getting his Riviera development there, but his bullying makes him look like a petulant jerkface. Why should anyone want to get in any relationship with a partner who relishes not just crass dominance displays but even humiliating heads of state (witness King Abdullah of Jordan) and is indifferent to destabilizing the entire region? These actions are inimical to building trust and dealing with anything other than subservient parties.

Or perhaps Trump and his operatives still believe that Russia is having trouble sustaining its war effort, and so shoring up US credibility and commitment will lead Russia to make concessions.

Neither approach one might think Trump is taking – to use a Ukraine resource deal to keep the U.S. in Ukraine and the war going, or to use the Ukraine resource deal to finally break with Ukraine – is consistent with a realistic assessment of the facts on the ground. At least not if the aim of the game is to make peace.

Trump is may be just rearranging the chairs before continuing with the same old imperial program:

Brian Berletic contends that most independent commentators have fallen for the MAGA/America First hype when Trump represents strategic continuity for the US by trying to maintain dominance, particularly vis-a-vis China. In particular, Berletic described, based on watching the full confirmation hearings for Trump defense and intelligence picks, that the US was not getting rid of the USAID regime change/messaging apparatus, merely shuttering its DEI and other MAGA-disapproved elements.

Needless to say, this assessment, based on what the Trump Administration has said it intends to do with USAID operations, is very much at odds with the conventional, complacent view that Trump has gotten the US out of the regime change business. Why pray tell, would it have been in the US’ strategic interest to do so? It’s not as if we could win any concessions for eliminating that apparatus.

Yves Smith’s take on John Helmer’s analysis:

Helmer based on his own experience in the Carter Administration as well as input from Russian sources confirming what could be inferred from the remarks of various participants [of the talks in Riyadh] was that the session, from the Russian vantage, was a train wreck. Even if you didn’t have the benefit of the reports afterwards, the way the US went about it was nuts. The US side demanded an immediate high level session, when those typically do not happen before adequate ground work has been undertaken. On top of that, the key members of the Trump foreign policy team had only just been installed. And with DOGE running a bulldozer through State, it’s not as if Rubio and his colleagues had any expertise (such as from career staffers who’d been there before Team Biden came in) to draw on.

He reprised some of its findings, and added new observations, in a talk with Nima of Dialogue Works.

From the very top:

Helmer: The Russian perception is that the American side is a kasha, is a porridge, is a mess. But it’s necessary not to be impolite and say so…..First, what should the Russian side do next?

This problem is actually serious. The US called for a high-level meeting and had no idea what to do then, no agenda, no asks, no proposals. The point seemed to be to create a perception of momentum and pretend that Trump was making serious progress on ending the war. Helmers points to the almost desperation of the US side in saying the fact of this meeting proved that Trump was the only man who could end the war … in lieu of having anything else to say.

The conclusion for me is that there is no Trump plan at all to make peace in Ukraine.

The conflict – in consequence – will have to be decided on the battlefield.

Comments

I think it will be decided on the battlefield.
Trump is playing for time, Russia time to get control of Ukraine so we/Trump don’t have to worry too much about it anymore. Trump doesn’t really want to waste time and energy on complicated negotiations with Zel and the Europeans. He just doesn’t give aneff.
That’s also the best way to deal with Europe.
Let them waste their time and money on fighting Russia in the Ukraine and/or squabbling about it “domestically,” to the extent that “domestically” even exists within the EU.
They are going to lose.
That is good for MAGA, international version.
I agree that his main battle is in the USA. There are still plenty of Long Knives out to get him, his administration, and DOGE, and derail his battle against the administrative state (as Alistair Crooke puts it), and he must vanquish them—visibly to the American people.
He must win this battle.
All else is flea bites.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 25 2025 23:43 utc | 201

I think what Mearsheimer in that one video could be referring to is the following (possible) situation / dilemma:
1) The US and NATO keep supporting the Ukraine as much as possible. Only that way the US / Trump / Europe is able to exploit all that mineral wealth (or as much as possible). But then the war in the Ukraine will continue for much longer. That also could explain why the neighbours to the west of the UKraine have such a large interest in taking over parts of the western Ukraine.
2) The US + NATO stop supporting the Ukraine but then it’s more likely that more of that mineral wealth ends up in russian hands.
The situation is actually not that bad for Europe. The US can dump the ukrainian war onto Europe but Europe hasn’t the military muscle to support the Ukraine but then the US also won’t be able to benefit of all that ukrainian mineral wealth. In that regard the US will be forced to maintain US support for NATO and the Ukraine (for the time being ??).

Posted by: WMG | Feb 25 2025 23:46 utc | 202

Yep, the Ukrainian colour revolution to overturn the legitimate democratic vote. But the Ukrainians voted the wrong way again in 2010, so I wonder if some of the propaganda got dialled back between then and the 2014 coup.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 25 2025 23:39 utc | 200
I would think more highly of Yanukovych if that were the case. Thank you for the positive, there are too few in Ukraine.

Posted by: Samu | Feb 25 2025 23:47 utc | 203

psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 23:08 utc | 188–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I understand the Might Makes Right solution. The problem is that can’t become the basis for the solution because the Eurasian Security Pact must be a collective, law-based, solution, and arriving at that Pact is the key to establishing the peace. Fortunately, the Outlaw US Empire isn’t going to be invited to that Pact, so the Senate is no worry.
The basic issue of ending the SMO once Russia attains its goals is simple. Putin, however, is a strict constructionist type and will insist on following international legalities–something the West never does–and self-determination will be offered those remaining within the confines of the current Ukraine as if it’s a colony undergoing decolonization, which is very close to the situation’s reality. Will a Ukraine state even exist after that? If it does, will it be held responsible for the debts of the previous Ukraine? I would think not.
The world–Humanity–must evolve to the rule of law instead of the rule of the gunman/gunmen otherwise wars will continue to be waged, and the Cult of Mammon will never be defeated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 23:48 utc | 204

I think what Mearsheimer in that one video could be referring to is the following (possible) situation / dilemma:
1) The US and NATO keep supporting the Ukraine as much as possible. Only that way the US / Trump / Europe is able to exploit all that mineral wealth (or as much as possible). But this would mean that the war in the Ukraine will continue for a long long time. That also could explain why the neighbours to the west of the UKraine have such a large interest in taking over parts of the western Ukraine.
2) The US + NATO stop supporting the Ukraine but then it’s more likely that more of that mineral wealth ends up in russian hands.
The situation is actually not that bad for Europe. The US can dump the ukrainian war onto Europe but Europe hasn’t the military muscle to support the Ukraine but then the US also won’t be able to benefit of all that ukrainian mineral wealth.

Posted by: WMG | Feb 25 2025 23:56 utc | 205

@ karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 23:48 utc | 204 with the follow up…thx
I think Ukraine is facing unconditional surrender whereas the deal Trump just made with Ukraine may complicate that…what will Russia say to a conditional surrender that honors the new US/Ukraine agreement? I think they will say, “Stuff it!”
The problem for Trump is that it is going to be hard to move through this transition to multipolarity and equality of nations….Trump will push for a section of the world to rule over and will be politely told NO FUCKING WAY! by both Russia and China and the RoW.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 23:59 utc | 206

– No, I think that the US (establishment) won’t give up their imperial project in Europe anytime soon, in spite of statements made by Hegseth, Rubio and Vance (at e.g. the Munich Security Meeting).

Posted by: WMG | Feb 26 2025 0:00 utc | 207

The U.S. doesn’t do serious diplomacy in the first place. The idea that Trump, with an admin built mostly from Fox News personalities, doing serious diplomacy is laughable. What the U.S. does and Trump excels at is building media narratives. So it’s no surprise that the U.S. came to an important, high level meeting that would traditionally be used to lay the groundwork for more talks completely unprepared.
Note the secondary indicators after the meeting. Moscow said that as soon as the U.S. formally put together a negotiating team, Moscow would do the same. Reading between the lines of diplomatic communication says, “The Americans are a mess and didn’t have the first step ready”. Or how Moscow is now playing that disorganization with strange statements from Putin about potential deals. That’s the last way Putin’s government communicates important stuff. They’re baiting Trump.
But it works in Russia’s favor and Moscow appears to be leveraging it. Trump is raking Zelensky over the coals and undermining him. It looks and sounds like negotiations are underway, proving Russia’s point that it is always willing to talk, while Russia uses the time to weaken Ukraine’s position on the ground. The whole thing is driving a wedge between the U.S. and Europe bigger than there would be just from Trump’s existence. And every day it drags out, Russia’s position improves while Trump’s degrades because he needs a deal sooner rather than later.
He’s not a good negotiator. He wouldn’t have so many bankruptcies if he was. He’s likely to get desperate and do something stupid. Or wait to long and the Ukrainian lines or government collapse.

Posted by: Lex | Feb 26 2025 0:11 utc | 208

Would you be happy if “the career diplomats from the Biden admin” were still on the team and running the talks with the Russians?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 26 2025 0:11 utc | 209

Trump clearly has escaped the hamster wheel but remains in the cage and is looking for an exit.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 19:52 utc | 101

Sorry, but here I disagree. He wants to stop the Russian Army to fulfill the objective of the SMO. He wants to keep the ukronazis in power. He wants to hinder Russia to liberate Kharkov, Nikolaiev, Odessa, Dniepropetrovsk, Sumy, etc.
And prepare the ukronazi regime for a revenge sooner or later.

Posted by: Naive | Feb 26 2025 0:13 utc | 210

Three things people are getting wrong.
1. Wars “end” (pause) when you have killed enough “Americans”.
2. The war in ex-Ukraine will __not__ be over when it has been won, nor will it be over when all of ex-Ukraine is Russian. This is because the war in ex-Ukraine is the war against Russia and it will continue as long as both Russia and those wishing to destroy Russia exist. Russians and Russian politicians better understand this. (For clarity: I am not Russian).
3. Negotiations typically involve the different negotiating parties withdrawing from each other into separate rooms or buildings for significant periods of time during the actual physical meetings in order for them to discuss any changes and developments taking place, their own tactics and strategies, what they think their opponents are doing and so on. This can also take place with each side having multiple teams and messages being passed back and forth to the backrooms or even all the way back to ministries and other involved authorities.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2025 0:16 utc | 211

If you want to understand trump. The final minute of this video is all you need to know
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CAbCQZAFqUU&si=p04tJ_zJD_GCRIIj
Posted by: Feck | Feb 25 2025 20:22 utc | 118
I watched that, all. Interesting, but essentially silly.
No one photograph can encapsulate “the whole” or “the deepest aspect” of any complex human personality in just one shot. It is total photographer’s vanity to think so.
His famous snapshots are based on the reaction to just one question. Any subsequent photo from a different question would capture some different reflection of one’s essential nature.
Btw, the photo of Putin I find ugly and insulting, and very non-typical of his inner self. It’s a false Westernised trope, supposedly of a man who misses and who’d like to recreate the Soviet Empire, billed as “the cold face of power in Russia”. It’s rubbish. After all, the Beatles song Yesterday was released in 1965, when Putin was 17 years old. What possible connection could it have with some year 2010 photograph of the man now aged 73.
You’ve got your own agenda here. Feck off.

Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 26 2025 0:17 utc | 212

He’s not a good negotiator. He wouldn’t have so many bankruptcies if he was. He’s likely to get desperate and do something stupid. Or wait to long and the Ukrainian lines or government collapse.
Posted by: Lex | Feb 26 2025 0:11 utc | 208

Are you kidding? Bankruptcy is one of the most powerful negotiating tools in business.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 26 2025 0:18 utc | 213

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 23:48 utc | 204
The problem with self-determination is that if the oblast is controlled by the sbu, you can imagine what will be the results. Same if controlled by the ee, nato or the yankeeland, uno, osce, etc.

Posted by: Naive | Feb 26 2025 0:18 utc | 214

Posted by: WMG | Feb 25 2025 23:46 utc | 202
That was the impression I had as well after I watched what Mearsheimer said.

Posted by: Al Balog | Feb 26 2025 0:18 utc | 215

Trump went from zero political experience to president against a 100% hostile press in 2016.
Calling him names, insinuating he is stupid .. only shows who the stupid one truly is
Morality aside, this administration is somehow getting RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard to highest positions in the land.
He is not stupid, not is he “just winging it”.
Confusion is essential, for all involved, even his own people. If nobody knows what he is up to, he is doing it right.
All we can do is wait and see. I know we all have our desires to be right about everything, but in the end, all we can do is wait and see
That said, I don’t think he is a match for Putin. Navigating American politics is very complex, but navigating Russian politics is even more complex, with a constant existential threat behind it.
In other words, Putin has been on dead mans ground his whole life, while Trump has been nobility.
Putin raised in an apartment by a single mother, Trump by a millionaire family. Both of them are scrappy, and the training of nobility is not to be poo-pooed just because your ego wants something to grasp on. It is serious… …But I can say, the rare peasants who have made it to the top, have generally formed powerful, unstoppable dynasties throughout history.

Posted by: UWDude | Feb 26 2025 0:19 utc | 216

No, I think that the US (establishment) won’t give up their imperial project in Europe anytime soon, in spite of statements made by Hegseth, Rubio and Vance (at e.g. the Munich Security Meeting).
Posted by: WMG | Feb 26 2025 0:00 utc | 207

It’s not the same establishment. Did you not see the UN vote?

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 26 2025 0:21 utc | 217

Are you kidding? Bankruptcy is one of the most powerful negotiating tools in business.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 26 2025 0:18 utc | 213
Yup.
And Trump started over 100 businesses. 8 going bankrupt ain’t shit.

Posted by: UWDude | Feb 26 2025 0:22 utc | 218

Dutchman@33
I agree with you conclusions. However, Doctorow repeats a commonly repeated misleading statistic that drives my perfectionist streak nuts: “ In that 8-year period 14,000 or more Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas were killed by the Kiev regime.” While this is a true statement, it is misleading because about 13,000 of these deaths occurred by 2015. In late 2021 and 2022, I checked this out by reading numerous daily and summary reports of the OSCE officials at the line of control. Though predominantly the artillery and rocket fire from 2016 through 2021 came from the Ukraine side towards the areas like Donetsk City, often hitting civilian infrastructure like water and power lines, injuring civilians but not killing that many. I don’t know if the OSCE reports are still on line—I think I found the links here at MOA, and I don’t think this reduces the validity of the decision to start the SMO, I prefer to recognize the historical fact that most of the deaths were of civilians seeking autonomy, but it is also true most of those deaths occurred before Minsk II began. Sorry about my fetish for precise accuracy.

Posted by: mjh | Feb 26 2025 0:23 utc | 219

Trump has been very clear:- Had he been in the White House, this war would have ended very quickly because he would not have provided the weapons and support for others who provide weapons, the whole sorry business that has been going on over there. Now, one important thing to say about that claim is that back then, he was not entirely in charge of his ‘team’, and now he is. So, Biden did what he did to prop up a military response – and maybe Trump would have found his Deep State doing what he didn’t want them to do as well. History happened, and it was a murky thing.
Which makes me glad he’s a better decider now than he was back during his last four years as president. He has more control, and that’s a good thing.
Thanks for your questions, and your conclusion b!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 26 2025 0:27 utc | 220

A couple of things: the mineral deal may not be so dumb. It makes it easier to sell the deal to Americans as they ‘got something out of the whole thing’. It also gives us an interest in Ukraine going forward which we would have a reason to protect – this could be a good thing if Ukraine can’t join NATO.
Also, Trump probably doesn’t have a plan – anyone who claims they have a plan is in no position to execute. Rather, this is just something to get the ball rolling.

Posted by: ian | Feb 26 2025 0:27 utc | 221

I found this article that was just published on RIA Novosti (basically Russian state media), but I have no idea if Trump is telling the truth that no military aid would be sent on his call? I hope he keeps his word and that this isn’t some sort of illusion or trick.
I do know that the US military aid agreed to Ukraine during the Biden era is still being shipped, but that’s besides the point, since I’m talking about if Trump gave any current or future military aid on his call.
Thing is, on a Hungarian comments section (where I mostly lurk around), someone did say to me, that the main question is whether Trump’s minerals deal states that the war will continue or the war would end.
Трамп заявил, что США сейчас не поставляет Украине военную помощь
Трамп: США прямо сейчас не поставляют Украине никакой оборонной помощи
https://ria.ru/20250226/tramp-2001608552.html
Trump says US is not currently providing military aid to Ukraine
Trump: US is not providing any defense aid to Ukraine right now
WASHINGTON, Feb 26 – RIA Novosti. US President Donald Trump said the US is not providing “any” defense assistance to Ukraine right now.
“Right now we’re not providing anything,” he told reporters in the Oval Office when asked whether Washington was providing defense assistance.
At the same time, Trump admitted that Ukraine has enough weapons to continue military operations until Russia and the United States reach an agreement to resolve the conflict.
The US President also stated that in the future, Europe will have to be responsible for military aid to Kyiv.
The day before, Politico reported that Ukraine would lose about half of its weapons, including the most effective ones, without US military assistance. The Wall Street Journal, citing current and former Western officials, wrote that Kiev would be able to conduct military operations “at the current pace” only until the summer without US support, after which the Ukrainian Armed Forces risk running out of ammunition and losing the ability to use some types of advanced weapons and carry out long-range strikes.

Posted by: Al Balog | Feb 26 2025 0:28 utc | 222

Ukraine/Neocon Nuland et al have lost the war despite an astronomical amount of US money and weaponry spent. Ukraine has lost more than a million men slaughtered whose bodies are strewn across the contested areas leaving an environmental catastrophe.
The state of the purported bioweapons labs located across the Ukraine is unknown.
The objective to weaken Russia and capture its resources has failed due to incompetence on the part of the neocon leadership.
In short – a debacle of huge proportions.
Many factions are fighting over the resources in Ukraine.
Russia now controls a piece and is making advances the longer it plays out.
Blackrock reportedly owns a large area of Ukrainian farmland.
China has shut down substantial rare earth exports to US.
US needs rare earth minerals.
Ukraine has some rare earth minerals and Russia reportedly has offered the sell the US some of theirs.
Trump’s plan should be to salvage what can be done now, ie brokering a cease fire peace plan and getting something out of it.
Thats what it appears to me is being attempted by the Trump team.

Posted by: osi not ossi | Feb 26 2025 0:31 utc | 223

So…Trump just brokered a deal and Zelenskyy is flying to DC on Friday. Mostly mining minerals and never joining NATO. More to follow.

Posted by: Ljag | Feb 26 2025 0:44 utc | 224

Business bankruptcies are not an accurate gauge on overall success or acumen, regardless who is filing. The majority of his Chapter 11s were primarily in the hotel/casino space during a pretty serious recession. Straight up failures, of which Trump has maybe a dozen (?) are a little more worrisome, but also not very useful in having an “adult discussion” on his merits, lack thereof -or- successes, or lack thereof. They are only fodder for memes and partisan insults.
That said, I didn’t vote for the guy anyway, and I have plenty of relatives back east (Rust Belt and Appalachia) that did, but who have recently begun to sour on him and Doge, primarily because they find their benefits suddenly gone or at risk. It will really come down to one thing: jobs or rather, good jobs. This could happen as the result of a “new Pearl Harbor” (ala 9/11) and the ensuing war (probably against Iran) or if he somehow miraculously manages to get manufacturing jobs re-onshored or create new “tech” jobs in the places like I mentioned. It will also be important in terms of the real economy (and stocks, of course) that we don’t end up with a massive recession due to spooking consumers and the ‘investor class’.
I can say this: At the present rate, should the Democrats (also miraculously) come up with a populist-ish and popular-ish candidate for 2028, I don’t see what’s happening in the Trump Vance administration being geared toward re-election, at least not an easy one.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 26 2025 0:44 utc | 225

Trump took $137 million from Miriam Adelson, immediately brought Netanyahu to the US so he could bend the knee in person, and was absolutely compromised by the Epstein operation. His plan is to do what his Zionist handlers instruct him to do and make a buck for him and his crew in the process.

Posted by: Gengar | Feb 26 2025 0:47 utc | 226

It’s fascinating how sooooo many here have recently completely misinterpreted Putin and Trump’s words about potential peace keepers in Ukraine. Both utterances can be true, but in different timeframes.
Obviously Russia will not tolerate any foreign forces in Ukraine ***whilst fighting continues*** and while Kiev and EU are still belligerents. But I can see why Trump said Putin would agree to them. WAAAAAY down the track after a satisfactory ceasefire has been agreed to by RF; and new borders are UN ratified; and while elections are held to keep civil peace. Putin would not have any problem if their purpose was to stop remnant terrorist brigades like Azov, trying to kick things off again; or at ZNPP as security forces. The guy is not stupid. As the military “winner” he can easily demand all such preconditions to such peacekeepers. After all, the only valid peacekeeoers are UN approved and would INCLUDE some RF overseers. We are not talking about UK + FR clandestine fighters. Trump knows that. Calm down everyone.

Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 26 2025 0:50 utc | 227

In this environment he cannot just simply “end the war” favorable to Russia. Rather, he has to create enough confusion to provide a smoke screen of deniability while allowing Russia to end it on the ground.
The fallout is going to be magnitudes greater than Saigon or Afganistán, so it’s important not to be effectively tarred by the deep state.
Posted by: Markw | Feb 25 2025 17:19 utc | 10
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Exactly my thinking. Drive the clown car, cause mass confusion, blame a lot of everybodies for making things so messy and being non-cooperative, and . . . let Putin finish the job.
Avoid any blame, pretend a lot, do not inherit Ukraine as a tar baby and keep chatting up Putin. Not much of a plan, but he needs an exit that let’s him survive with whatever he has for style. The Emperor’s clothes are coming around as rare earth minerals this time. All hail this great deal!

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 26 2025 0:54 utc | 228

Trumps Plan:
1. Make impossible demands of ukraine
2. Make impossible demands of Russia
3. Say both sides need to make concessions but won’t so the US will work with both sides in fair trade.
4. Split Russia from Europe and China. Steals Europe’s market share in Russia, set Russia and China at odds.
5. Keep the US so strong it will have no threats to it forever, a true golden age. No pax Americana, just America forever.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 26 2025 1:01 utc | 229

Absolutely Brilliant b and needed to be said. Shouted from the rooftops.
My view is the mineral deal was never about getting $’s back. Once you fully understand modern money it is laughable. Quite simply They issue the $ and don’t need $’s
What they DO need however is to try to get leverage because they lost the war to …
a) FREEZE the conflict not end it.
b) Then use it to legitimise security guarantees for Ukraine.
Brian Berletic has been amazing on this. He has trawled through hours of hearings on the hill by Hegseth and Rubio and official documents on the US government websites posted by Trumps team. That have taken place Since January.
Since January Brian has been head and shoulders above the usual crowd. Who in my opinion have completely jumped the shark saying things like NATO is dead, the deep state is finished etc, etc
Brian goes through Hegseths and Rubios speeches and committee hearings and articles with a fine toothpick free from ideology and politics. Their is absolutely no switching of gears compared to what they wanted before Trump.
DOGE is Sharpening the Tools of US Empire – Not Dismantling Them. US is Reorganizing/Outsourcing Empire + trying to Freeze the conflict not Ending Ukraine War.The US-EU “Division of Labor” to Continue Confronting Russia & China.
Brian has all the written and spoken proof to back it all up.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 1:02 utc | 230

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 22:39 utc | 180
I wrote for a blog back in 2014 and in between cracking jokes that Nuland wasn’t giving the Maidan protesters doughnuts – it was yummy strudel (Nobody got it), I said that historians would be saying that the new cold war was started under Obama with this coup. So you have no argument from me about who caused what.
I also agree that the SMO resolution presents the vehicle for the establishment of a new Eurasian Security Structure that doesn’t include NATO, but i don’t think this will all happen in one fell swoop.
The peace will have to come with Ukraine II constitutional neutrality AND anti regime change witchcraft protection spells, like what Orban is injecting into the conversation now. This will be all the more critical because Lenin’s formulat to balance the more germanic northwest against the Donbass will no longer exist. Yanukovitch could not have won without the 4 oblasts now Russian. Galicia Volynia and women in Kiev will dominate the political landscape, if there was an election.
Not only that, you have 60 years of bile dumped straight from Langley into Galicia Volynia. So it will take generations for that to drain itself. In the US, only now have 1930’s style new deal Democrats have become Republicans, and only because of MAGA. Just look at the Lithuanians – over reactive barking dogs against Russia. So it takes a long time.
The counter witchcraft spell, which should also be constitutional for Ukraine II, can serve as a model for other BRICS members. I have tried to spark a conversation here about how that will be shaped. Expenditures by anf foreign entity for any political purpose is the key. Georgia has some of this type of repellant passed into law. Ukraine II should have the most powerful laws RF could design. Then this is the foundation to work toward Yalta II.
All of this could be accomplished bilaterally. Couple this with the real estate development deal of the century that connects RF and Hungary and Trump is in. No treaty required. Trump knows this, so his angle will be peacemaker without a US treaty. Maybe an ececutive order or law that outlaws regime change witchcraft, but even that would be a pretty big admission of guilt for witchcraft practicing.
I just don’t see how a treaty gets done. The Democrats will never give such a big win to Trump. Nor do I think “Eastern Europe” will be an issue that impacts any Senate race. All politics is local.
In a just world, the path to Yalta II, where regime change witchcraft is dealt with for the sin that it is will come to pass. This is linear thinking, which i think is kind of a hallmark of Russian thought. I admire it. The world should have such clarity, but instead the West and the US especially thinks crooked.

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 26 2025 1:13 utc | 231

So…Trump just brokered a deal and Zelenskyy is flying to DC on Friday. Mostly mining minerals and never joining NATO. More to follow.
Posted by: Ljag | Feb 26 2025 0:44 utc | 224
He has brokered a deal to try and give Trump the leverage he is absolutely desperate for because the US lost the war.
We have whatever bullshit is signed away by the clown in Kiev .They are ours so the war stops here on this line of a map.
Because this stuff is now ours we must give Ukraine security guarantees.
This is what the West have wanted since they knew Ukraine lost the war a year ago. This what the propaganda around the mining are trying to achieve.
Look, America is weak right now and yet they are projecting strength. They have absolutely zero leverage and this is Trump trying to get some for the negotiations.
What will Putin do ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He should tell them to fuck off. Tell them unequivocally to Stop acting as if America and Europe won this war.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 1:15 utc | 232

This is Trump!
No need to argue about intentions or planning!
He is simply an ignorant and a very fool person.
“Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Posted by: k | Feb 26 2025 1:15 utc | 233

Simplicious has an Arestovich interview in which he says that Zelensky promising to resign is nonsense. I agree, he’s nailed it. It’s just more Zelensky bullsh*t.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 26 2025 1:20 utc | 234

Posted by: Ljag | Feb 26 2025 0:44 utc | 224
Why did Trumpian Phoneyfart take so long to make contact with the Russians ?
He had nothing , absolutely no leverage whatsoever and was walking into these negotiations with an empty hand.
He projected strength instead with Canada and Greenland and tariffs and the Middle East. When the cupboards of the Pentagon are empty and the military is losing men hand over fist and set up to fight wars from 80 years ago.
They are weak but he is projecting strength. To try to get leverage. While Rubio, Hegseth Waltz and Kellogg were talking out of both sides of their mouths saying different things. They cooked up this mining propaganda to try and freeze the conflict and give Trumpian Phoneypart some leverage before the negotiations start in earnest.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 1:28 utc | 235

b: There are also no helpful hints from the White House or leaks to the press.
Sorry b. Have to disagree. {and not something I have previously had the temerity to do}
Both Boris Johnson [yes! him!] and Pete Hegseth have spoken plainly (IYKYK) … if you know the code words, what they are saying is actually quite terrifying……
The U$ acquiring minerals, “infrastructure” “oil” (or whatever else they can itemise) establishes U$ “interests”.
The U$ is known to take whatever action (military/covert/hybrid) necessary to protect its “interests” anywhere in the world.
Will the U$ acquiring direct “interests” in Ukraine bring the U$ into direct conflict with Russia?
Yes.
But Trump is confident he can “make a deal” with Russia.
Or Might = Right bully them.
Russia/Putin is also hinting at an economic “resolution” to boondoggle that is the 3-year sloSMO.
[Russia originally gambled that the EU/U$ would not act, and would not continue to act, against its own best interests by prolonging the conflict to this point. Russia could never imagine the EU/UK/U$ would be willing to deplete its military hardware, accept skyrocketing energy prices and the other economic disastrous boomerangs from the SanctionsFromHell™️.]
Trump is correct when he reports Putin wants an end to the conflict.
That Putin will accept a cessation that has the U$ claim economic interest in Ukraine is something most here @bar will find incomprehensible.
But listen carefully to what Boris Johnson is saying….
It’s not the outcome/ resolution “we” anticipated, but that’s the agenda ATM.

Former PM Boris Johnson Shares His Advice for What Keir Starmer Should Do
>…Good Morning Britain
>…”Former PM Boris Johnson explains why he hopes that Ukraine will sign the minerals deal with the US, and shares his advice for Keir Starmer.”
Listen. Very. Carefully. To what Johnson is spruiking.
As @bar has discussed. The “minerals” Trump Deal is much more about the U$ grabbing a stake in Ukraine.
Once the U$ has “interests” in the country, it will inevitably move to “protect” those “interests”.
“>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGiQHXqPB04

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 1:30 utc | 236

speaking of Brian B…..
(only problem with Brian Berletic on twitter is he doesn’t take comments on his posts. so I don’t visit that often)
https://x.com/BrianJBerletic/status/1894231771077906852
Brian Berletic @BrianJBerletic
🇺🇸🇪🇺 US Says, EU Does…
▪️Despite baseless hope the US has chosen “peace” over the pursuit of primacy, US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, publicly reading off policy drawn from Project 2025 in Brussels earlier this month, laid out a “division of labor” in which Europe would continue Washington’s proxy war with Russia in Ukraine while the US pivots to another war of encroachment and aggression with China in the Asia-Pacific region;
▪️Following a week of theater in which the US administration berated, mocked, and belittled Europe, with Europe likewise stomping its feet and and holding its breath, the EU finally and FULLY complied with Secretary Hegseth’s directives to raise huge amounts of money to continue the Ukraine proxy war;
▪️The accompanying clip demonstrates the US directive and Europe’s obedient compliance with all the distracting theater that took place in between edited out to make it clear how this process actually works.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 26 2025 1:33 utc | 237

I came to the conclusion that trump’s haranguing of z & co is more about leaning on Russia to try & force a peace agreement which ‘respects’ the deal cut with z in full or in part, than it has anything to do with the share of ukie returns coming from a ‘free’ ukraine.
When trump gets his deal with the ukies, he hopes to say to Russia “this is what the ukies have offered us, what does Russia offer us to quit stirring the pot?”
For me that is the only explanation which makes any sense, now, I doubt he will be very successful in that play cos the Russians know trump has put himself between a rock & a hard place when he campaigned on ‘bringing peace’.
They may flick him sufficient crumbs maybe even more than crumbs if the arrangement vis a vis amerikan sanctions offsets that loss in a large way. We shall see.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 26 2025 1:33 utc | 238

Looking at the big picture, at least over the past 70 years, it dawned on me that almost every president (or equivalent leader) who campaigns on ending wars or “bringing peace” finds him/herself embroiled in an even bigger, more spread out, and/or more dangerous war than they inherited. Will Trump break the trend?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 26 2025 1:39 utc | 239

Every time I see the word sockpuppeteering in this comment form, I have a Homer Simpsons “DOUGH!” moment. So many people spitting their opinion, but less than 1% here seems to be able to see how sockpuppets are all you are discussing.

Posted by: LikeItsHot | Feb 26 2025 1:39 utc | 240

Posted by: LikeItsHot | Feb 26 2025 1:39 utc | 240
I didn’t see anyone mentioning sockpuppets at all until your comment. What do you mean?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 26 2025 1:41 utc | 241

Please choose ONE unique username and stick to it. Using multiple names is sockpuppeteering and will get you banned.

Posted by: LikeItsHot | Feb 26 2025 1:42 utc | 242

I’m pretty sure it’s ‘Doh’!
Zelensky has agreed to US demands. Putin’s has suggested US companies maybe able to invest in Russian minerals.
I expect J Helmer to jump in with both feet declaring Putin’s sold out.
Those who know better will understand that the Russians will not do anything in haste and have game this out.
The situation is fluid only in how the US acts.

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 26 2025 1:51 utc | 243

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 26 2025 1:39 utc | 239
Tom,
When Hegseth and Rubio gave their speeches in Europe I asked on here what had actually changed ?
Apart from…
a) NATO countries are now ramping up military spending to hit 5% of GDP.
b) They recognised their supply chains were not up to the job of supplying their proxies. It is now a priority to make sure that NEVER happens again.
I was laughed out of town.
By people saying NATO is finished the Europeans are on their own blah, blah, blah.
Brian has laid it out in black and white and ticked all the boxes using Hegseths speech and Hegseths article he published in Brussels. His job interview speech in the senate to get his current job.He done the exact same with Rubio’s speeches.
This isn’t a roll back in any way. This is a Freeze , a reset, with plans to ramp up production , improve supply lines to their proxies and refill the Pentagon cupboards.
Trump had nothing , absolutely no leverage whatsoever and was walking into these negotiations with an empty hand. Trumpian Phoneyfart knew he was weak but projected strength and talked about peace.
Why ?
Peace is the only leverage he had. Peace is what the Russians want.
Trump Talked peace while desperately trying to get some other form of leverage over Russia. While Rubio and Hegseth, Waltz and Kellogg were making plans to freeze, introduce European peace keepers , claim mining rights and Europe to keep supplying military equipment and money to Ukraine. While they pivoted towards China.
NATO countries are now ramping up military spending to hit 5% of GDP. Fixing their supply lines and ramping up production for the future.
How is that a roll back of US foreign policy in any shape way or form ? Compared to what came before ?
It isn’t…
The truth is The US-EU “Division of Labor” to Continue Confronting Russia & China continues. DOGE is Sharpening the Tools of US Empire – Not Dismantling Them.
Brian has laid it all out in black and white.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 2:07 utc | 244

Serbian Police Raids NGOs Funded by USAID, Investigates Abuse of Funds and Money Laundering After Trump Administration Froze Agency’s Shady Activities
by Paul Serran Feb. 25, 2025
Serbia getting in on the Eatern Europe anti USAID witchcraft league

Posted by: frithguild | Feb 26 2025 2:10 utc | 245

All this talk about “the deal,” the Ukrainian development fund, and the US getting repayment is such a hoot. Ukraine is so corrupt that the deal can’t be anything but a scam. It will never realize a profit. Cash flow will evaporate.
Sure, maybe some minerals get mined…if the funds invested don’t mysteriously disappear down a deep black hole first. If minerals actually do get mined, it’s anybody’s guess as to whose fingers will be in the pot…in addition to those of the Ukrainian oligarchs.
Maybe this will end up like Biden’s favorite Burisma venture?

Posted by: JohnH | Feb 26 2025 2:12 utc | 246

@ Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 1:30 utc | 236
interesting post.. thanks! if you think of the usa representing all the banks hiding behind the imf and world bank loans to ukraine, you realize the usa has been heavily invested in ukraine for quite a long time… the war=money equation works here as well…
as @ 239 tom collins suggests, it would be odd for a president who is talking about peace, would actually be able to pull it off.. it is more likely the opposite… but i am still hopeful, lol… so, we’ll see…

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2025 2:23 utc | 247

frithguild | Feb 26 2025 1:13 utc | 231–
Thanks for your very interesting reply. I continued my musings at my substack, “The Ukraine Conflict’s Legal Issues: A day of musings at MoA”, where I concluded that Trump doesn’t need to have a plan.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2025 2:31 utc | 248

Karlofi @ 204: “The world–Humanity–must evolve to the rule of law instead of the rule of the gunman/gunmen …”
That is an admirable sentiment, but it ignores a very important reality. What is “Law”? When we get down to brass tacks, “Laws” in any country are limitations on citizens backed up by the implied threat of State-sanctioned violence. And we all understand that the Political Class in any country will have no hesitation about making that threat real if they feel the need. At its root, the rule of law in any country is the rule of the gunman/gunmen.
Now translate that to the international level. No citizen ever gets to vote on an “international law”. Those “laws” come out of cabals of bureaucrats and politicians. Are they really “laws” at all? And how do those “international laws” get enforced? Well, by bombing Serbia or bombing Libya or bombing Chechnya. International law is the rule of gunmen. This is the real world, and we have to live in it. The best we can hope for is gunmen with a moral sense.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Feb 26 2025 2:42 utc | 249

Of course there was a plan, b.
Plan A. No plan B. Plan A, was to crush the Russian economy with sanctions, and cancel anything Russian, divide the country into regions and have a feast on the carcass. It didn’t work from the moment that Russian treaty proposals were snubbed in December of 2021.
As always, this has to be decided on the battlefield, and will come to its logical conclusion soon.
I just learned that one trillion dollars is added to the debt every 100 days. What a whopper. That’s where the focus should be, not send good, after bad/unrecoverable money.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 26 2025 3:10 utc | 250

Some posters fail to notice important details missing from the illusory promise that allegedly was made by Zelensky to Trump (I say allegedly because there is so much misinformation out there that I have doubts it is true.)
Some info I got from a Ukrainian fried; other info is just common knowledge or legal principles.
1. Zelensky is not a legitimate president of Ukraine.
2. The V. Rada (Ukraine’s legislative branch) hasn’t approved anything.
3. It’s illegal right now under Ukrainian law to give away mineral rights; the V. Rada would need to change the constitution or whatever governing documents describe the property rights and mineral laws of Ukrainians.
4. There is no way to enforce it. Zelensky could die and the next legitimate ruler of the Ukraine could tell Trump to pound sand. We’re keeping the minerals – what are you going to do about it? (remember our old friend, FF.)
Possession is 9/10ths of the law in the U.S. Not sure how it works in Ukraine, but it is not likely that any Ukrainian official can enter into a binding contract to give up sovereign mineral rights that are not state-owned, let alone an illegitimate one. The entire deal is Ultra vires – null and void.
It would probably also be illegal under international law (not that IL is much of a thing, anymore.)
A telling statement that Dima made in one of his videos was that Zelensky refused to sign partly because there was a clause that the agreement would be governed by the laws of NY. That is a poison pill – it means that Hedge Funds could purchase the mineral rights, assuming Ukraine reneges on the agreement and sue in a NY Court. No doubt a judge would side with the hedge funds (home cooking rule.) The hedge funds would still not get the minerals but they might get a judgment and try to collect by seizing other Ukrainian assets, like ships, airplanes owned by the government, etc. This is the same playbook they used for Argentina when Argentina defaulted.
(I would not be surprised if some Hedge funds own some Ukrainian sovereign bonds purchased at pennies on the dollar.)
Therefore I can conclude that the whole thing is a farce, a way for Trump to build a narrative that the US is “getting something” for all the money and weapons wasted. And possibly create a future payday for some rent seekers. There is zero chance anything ever gets dug up out of the ground and given to the Americans.
(The deal also would not stand up in a US court because it is a classic “illusory promise.” Courts have held that when one side makes a promise that can be reneged on in the future, or does not bind future parties, that makes the consideration zero and thus we do not have a valid contract.)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 26 2025 3:13 utc | 251

mjh @219
Yes the OSCE reports are still available online and last week I downloaded the report that noted that 82% of the civilian casualties from 2018-Feb 2022 were on the Donetsk side. That was the first time I found a reliable source for the assertion that the vast majority of the civilian deaths were ethnic Russian.

Posted by: schmoe | Feb 26 2025 3:26 utc | 252

If Trump the narcissist was capable of self-reflection, he might see himself in this passage by Macbeth:

The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

By all outward appearances, Trump is as out of touch as Biden, taking into account the difference in personality types.
Like the current Ukraine non-policy, the approach toward tariffs and trade with Canada is also schizophrenic and transactional.
Is a 25% tariff on steel and aluminum from Canada going to benefit anyone? It will not make manufacturing return to the US, unless the US dollar depreciates significantly. Today it was floated that Russia was discussing a deal with the US to supply sufficient volumes of aluminum to make up for the Canadian supply that will be priced out of the market.
Later Trump mused that the Keystone XL pipeline (Alberta to Texas), cancelled by Biden, should be restarted. How is that ever going to be profitable if the Canadian owner/operator TransCanada pipeline has to pay 25% more for the steel pipe? How are Canadian oil producers going to use it profitably if 25% tariffs reduce the value of their crude product relative to US domestic oil or oil from the Saudi’s, Nigeria, etc.?
Worst case, the Trump Admin is schizophrenic, best case only severe cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Feb 26 2025 3:56 utc | 253

Trump is putting lipstick on the Ukraine pig, handing it over the Europeans, striking a fake minerals deal on the way out, claiming victory and going home. All theatre to save face and exit. Seems pretty clear.

Posted by: JustTruth | Feb 26 2025 4:04 utc | 254

Another legal point on the fake deal (gee, the US sure is good at fake deals, remember the fake Gaza ceasefire that Blinken tried to say was “imminent” for eight months?)
Without a formal treaty, one President cannot bind a future President to an agreement with a foreign country. That’s why Trump can easily exit the Paris agreement on climate change – that was non-binding and never ratified by Congress.
So, unless Trump is going to go for a formal treaty w/ 2/3 of the Senate to assent, this shit isn’t going to be binding after his term is up, and for all we know the war will still be going on making it a non-starter for US companies to get anywhere near the LoC.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 26 2025 4:20 utc | 255

Posted by: Al Balog | Feb 25 2025 19:52 utc | 102
Posted by: Al Balog | Feb 25 2025 20:50 utc | 131
How is this minerals deal going to end the war?
and
Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 25 2025 20:49 utc | 130
The Russians have very little more to gain before they hit the ‘trip-Wire’ of American controlled assets in Ukraine. For obvious reasons the Eussisns will not be able to advance into those areas.
<= I disagree, American assets in Ukraine will be taken by Russia.. Trump and his boys will not be able to stop Russia, Trump is not likely to object Blackrock et al will start using the Uk and EU to defend its interest in Ukraine. Posted by: Bobb | Feb 25 2025 21:39 utc | 157 soon we will have a war between Russia and the European Union <=almost guaranteed? Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 22:20 utc | 174 I think the SMO is between Russia and Ukraine and it will be concluded between those two parties w/o a US treaty in the middle......in 2025 <= I agree.. Ukraine will yield each and every object of the SMO to Russia Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 25 2025 22:21 utc | 176 How a generation can be transformed through the educational system to hate, the fascist remaking of the Ukrainian school system from 2014 to 2022. We see the same in Israel, teaching from a very early age to hate the Palestinians and the greatness of the Zionist regime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDOsfvuDvaI
<=yes each nation in the nation state system is a crucible. the PTB Inside of each crucible blend the inhabitants to hate those in the other crucibles. Been happening since beginning of the the nation state system. The NSS is the single most important source of Oligarch power over the masses. Posted by: Markw | Feb 25 2025 23:37 utc | 199 $USD = MIC = Energy that's a good start, please excuse my amendment as follows $USD + MIC + Energy + political power + at home surveillance & secrecy for state actors defines King of the mountain Zionism. Posted by: Jane | Feb 25 2025 23:43 utc | 201 I agree Trump's main battle is a home with purpose to visibility vanquish the administrative state, <=but the un-elected administrative state ..is defensively using the unelected supreme court to reverse, dampen or destroy everything Trump does. Americans are going to have to come to the aid of Trump if Trump is to accomplish his goals and Trump supports want those goals to happen. This battle at home is going to lead to a bloody, unstoppable and highly destructive civil war. Many of the people inside the Trump states have long been upset with the un elected generally unaccountable Supremes and the people in these same states hate with passions nearly indescribable those people who work for governments. Near as I can tell people in the non Trump states don't just dislike Trump, they passionately despise and hate him. So the people in America are highly polarized and complete divided and separated from each as to how they see the government and its leaders. IMO, if it were not for the Supremes, ordinary voting Americans would still be in control of the USA? History shows the supremes nearly always sided with the Oligarch. Nearly always the Supremes defended the sovereign state as opposed to the American in an America governed by the USA. The design of the constitution biased the decisions the court would make to favor the Oligarch. As time passed, that bias became more pronounced; because biased rulings set biased precedents. Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2025 23:48 utc | 204 The world--Humanity--must evolve to the rule of law instead of the rule of the gunman/gunmen otherwise wars will continue to be waged, and the Cult of Mammon will never be defeated. <=the best and probably the only way to do that would be to empower the governed citizens to police the activities of those who manage the governments? Hence my second government idea.. Laws designed to protect human rights are useless without effective enforcement mechanisms because king of the Mountain personalties will always seek to own the world. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2025 23:59 utc | 206 Ukraine is facing unconditional surrender whereas the deal Trump just made with Ukraine may complicate that < I agree with Naive @ 210 Trump intentionally complicated surrender with intention to force Russia to continue the war for as along as it takes to quiet the bellicose Western European states from their intention to destroy Russia. Trump's deal was meant to force Russia into a war with all of NATO Europe..and it was to challenge Putin to invade US interest in Ukraine even though us interest crosses one of Putin's red lines. THE SMO is going to be turned into a war that Blackrock and others can feed for ever..

Posted by: snake | Feb 26 2025 4:37 utc | 256

The kind of wealth and capital projects Musk represents depend on a pliant state. What countries would scare him the most?
Those are the targets for his clique.

Posted by: ZT | Feb 26 2025 4:55 utc | 257

In response to

THE SMO is going to be turned into a war that Blackrock and others can feed for ever..
Posted by: snake | Feb 26 2025 4:37 utc | 257

I disagree with your here. I think peace will be forced on the West when its jackboot of global finance is defeated which I think will be sooner than forever….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 26 2025 5:02 utc | 258

ITS ABOUT MONEY
@b
Trumps biggest concern is the devaluation of the Dollar as world reserve currency.
Putin himself has stated several times, bewildered and slighlty amused, that it’s a hard to grasp move to suddenly force a big oil producing country like Russia to trade its oil – and most other ressources – in non-Dollar currencies, as usually the US bombed all countries into submission to dared to even think about trading oil in alternative currencies.
The USD is Trumps biggest worries, and sanctioned Russia is the biggest outside threat to it.
Putin for sure in his phone call asked Trump about this seemingly insane move from the Biden regime.
And for sure the only way to make the Russians use USD again, is increased cooperation and lifting of sanctions.
Thats the prime motive.
All other topics, war, politics, etc, they All dont matter.
The USD can’t collapse, no government would survive that, and Trumps Nr.1 policy is just to prevent BRICS from creating alternative payment systems.
The USD is the biggest strength and biggesr weak spot of the USA.
Everyone knows. Trump is not intended to lose this game.

Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Feb 26 2025 5:25 utc | 259

Boris Johnson praises US-Ukraine mineral rights deal
Fox News yt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ1JVyx7kyg
Listen. Listen to what Boris is saying… @bar understands coded language.
The “minerals” deal brings with it “U$backstops”, “guarantees” . Etc.
Listen. Listen to the language. Johnson is using. He’s being very careful with his words.
Ask.
Why would Johnson be so hot for this deal?
Was it a coincidence he was in Kiev at the right time to pressure Zelensky ?
Remember Boris and Trump were friends when Boris was mayor of London.
IMVHO Trump is bringing “peace to Ukraine” by installing trip wires , basically an Article 5, into the “ceasefire”.
Listen to Johnson, because he’s central to what’s being negotiated between Trump, Zelensky and the warpigs

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:29 utc | 260

Wouldn’t it be funny if Trump’s demand for Ukraine minerals ends up exposing the fact(s) that the “minerals” were way overvalued on their face, if they exist in the amounts necessary to make up the so-called valuation at all, and so the loans and guarantees Ukraine gave to the EU are worthless, after all.
Man, I bet Blackrock and all their little friends would be pissed.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Feb 26 2025 5:36 utc | 261

@ Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:29 utc | 261
boris johnson is a liar.. that is the only thing i can take from his talk… i am sorry, i can’t get much of anything else from it..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2025 5:41 utc | 262

@ Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:29 utc | 261 with the Boris Johnson link…thx
He is a political weasel, sorry for bad mouthing weasels.
I credit the interviewer for twisting him into knots as he obfuscates the US backstop issue/commitment.
Since Putin has come out offering better rare earth sources and development opportunities it seem senseless for Trump to commit the US to such a deal unless he wants an excuse to have US “skin” in the Ukrainian game and continue the conflict.
This thing about guaranteeing Ukraine sovereignty is obfuscatory because just what area might be left for Ukraine to be sovereign over?
Part of me thinks that Trump will reject the deal in a public event meant to cement the demise of Ukraine and Z.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 26 2025 5:52 utc | 263

james | Feb 26 2025 5:41 utc | 263
Johnson has been deep in Ukraine since he was foreign minister and then prime minister.
He’s saying the “minerals” deal is a covert Article 5 and raises the stakes/temperature another level.
The U$ now “owns” $500b[!] of Ukrainian resources.
Trump has already raised the value to “maybe 1 trillion”.
The U$ is committed to “guarantees” to Ukraine protect its (and their “joint”) interests.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:53 utc | 264

psychohistorian | Feb 26 2025 5:52 utc | 264
Zelensky will be in the White House Friday to sign.
Let’s see what more leaches out about the “deal”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 5:56 utc | 265

Re: Budget Bill Passed by Lower House ?
Can a Barfly translate the presser:
1) Whats a $1.5 trillion budget cuts Floor ? is this the minimum over 10 years or the maximum ?
2) Is the $4 trillion headline increase in deficit over 10 years ? Does this mean (roughly) a $400 billion increase in deficit this year ?

Posted by: exile | Feb 26 2025 6:06 utc | 266

“The USD is the biggest strength and biggest weak spot of the USA.”
Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Feb 26 2025 5:25 utc | 260
Your statement is paradoxical, yet it is spot on!

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:12 utc | 267

“Trump the narcissist was capable of self-reflection, he might see himself in this passage by Macbeth:
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Feb 26 2025 3:56 utc | 253
Your quote not only stands for Trump but for all of us in our brief mortal coil

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:18 utc | 268

“I was laughed out of town.”
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 2:07 utc | 244
That’s the usual response to your arrogant, myopic musings on world events; such a response is quite accurate.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:22 utc | 269

Getting the deal that we want’: Zelensky to meet Trump following agreement on minerals deal
Sky News Australia yt
>……”Ukraine Ambassador to Australia Vasyl Myroshnychenko has commented on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s upcoming trip to the United States to meet Donald Trump to firm up terms of the minerals deal.
This comes after Ukraine agreed to a critical minerals deal with the United States.
“I’m positive about the outcomes of this meeting – as you know, it was part of Ukraine’s victory plan that was presented to Donald Trump last year, which included invitation from the US to invest in the development of our critical minerals,” Mr Myroshnychenko told Sky News Australia.
“It looks like we’re getting the deal that we want, and both President Trump and President Zelensky have indicated that they will soon meet to finalise it and sign it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CANe-OnKnXk
So.
What did Ukraine get? According the this ambassador…

it’s a deal that Ukraine wants it was part of our Victory plan that was Point number four in the victory plan presented globally and internationally.
And of course those were some of the conditions were initially set by the US side which were unacceptable to Ukraine.
>……They now been removed, which specifically includes 50% of the revenue from the operating oil and gas companies.
This this agreement will include only the future Revenue from the new Investments and new developments will come.
>>>… §| Also the $500 billion that was mentioned in the original draft has also been taken down.
We had to actually moderate and change the tax to meet uh the requirements of our Constitution and make sure that our Sovereign rights are in place so so you know this is how talks are done.

The ambassador also talks about the security guarantees for Ukraine,
Which “may include a NATO built within Ukraine.”.
This connects to the sort-of, kind-of Article5 that Boris Johnson alludes to.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 6:24 utc | 270

We haven’t heard a peep out of Johnson since he scuttled Tehran talks.
Suddenly he’s doing British and U$ tv interviews?
Agreeing with Trump’ s “mineral” deal.?
——
Hmmm.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 6:27 utc | 271

“Confusion is essential, for all involved, even his own people. If nobody knows what he [Trump] is up to, he is doing it right.”
Posted by: UWDude | Feb 26 2025 0:19 utc | 216
Best sentence I have read tonight.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:35 utc | 272

Trump confusing everyone particularly the Russians it seems. The mineral deal covertly brings Article 5 into the rump state (including the Russian city of Odessa) while the US simultaneously voting with Russia in the UN
Putin needs to realize this guy is no better than Biden, maybe worse for Russian interests as he has somehow successfully portrayed himself as a Russian sympathizer when all he is doing is turning Ukraine into a US controlled asset.
Putin needs to cut off all diplomatic contacts that have been restarted post Biden and increase the pace of the SMO.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 26 2025 6:46 utc | 273

Boris Johnson xwitter
https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1893936897434472880

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 6:51 utc | 274

Backstop.
It’s the magic word, folks.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-pm-starmer-says-us-must-provide-security-guarantee-ukraine-deter-russia-2025-02-17/
Starmer: “Europe must play its role, and I’m prepared to consider committing British forces on the ground alongside others, if there is a lasting peace agreement, but there must be a US backstop, because a US security guarantee is the only way to effectively deter Russia from attacking Ukraine again,” Starmer told reporters.
§| Macron said the same thing during his press conference with Trump
~~~
How many times did Johnson drop the “backstop” code word in his interviews?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 7:04 utc | 275

Does Trump have a plan? No, of course, that’s the nature of pragmatists.
This is what differentiates them mainly from pragmaticism.
No model. Or if a model, one already on the shelf.
Their technique is to jump on what moves, which is in vogue.
If the subject does not move, we start with an unacceptable offer, but one that is constraining to reveal itself, and which could eventually move the lines. Therefore, act as you go along to find a solution.
And if it doesn’t work, we move on.

Posted by: Luc Laforets | Feb 26 2025 7:10 utc | 276

Helmer: Beating Sisyphus To The Punch…
https://johnhelmer.net/beating-sisyphus-to-the-punch-how-to-roll-back-us-forces-in-europe-without-rolling-back-nato-without-ukraine/
How to roll back US forces in Europe without rolling back NATO without Ukraine.
“…For now, threats to withdraw the United States from NATO should be regarded as deceitful and frivolous. However, events are developing at such a pace that everything seems possible. This includes the rollback of the US military presence in Europe to the ‘basic settings’ of the pre-Gorbachev period.
If the White House is really ready to discuss this with Moscow as part of the process of restoring normal relations between Russia and the United States, this is a truly revolutionary event for American foreign policy…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 26 2025 7:13 utc | 277

Trumps plan is what he is telling the media. It is all in the open. It is the same as the old plan but modified to take into account the realities on the ground. It started with trying to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, so that they could plunder their resources. That did not work out and now they are satisfied with plundering Ukraine’s resources. But for that to succeed they need to stop the war asap otherwise there will be nothing left.
The main problem will be that as soon as the US ‘owns’ these minerals it will need to defend them and as such will become directly involved in the war.

Posted by: hubert | Feb 26 2025 7:48 utc | 278

@Melaleuca | Feb 26 2025 7:04 utc | 275

Backstop.
It’s the magic word, folks.

Same magic word that Theresa May / Boris Johnson used to sabotage the UK Brexit vote.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 26 2025 7:52 utc | 279

“Confusion is essential, for all involved, even his own people. If nobody knows what he [Trump] is up to, he is doing it right.”
Posted by: UWDude | Feb 26 2025 0:19 utc | 216
*
Best sentence I have read tonight.
Posted by: canuck | Feb 26 2025 6:35 utc | 272

***
Brings back memories of Joe Tzu ” if I don’t know what I am doing, how can anyone else know?”
Are we now in a “Don Tzu” period?

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 26 2025 7:59 utc | 280

The “minerals deal” is not only an anchor to drag, it is also an inducement to keep private Western investors involved with the Tar Baby.
“Look, the USA is invested. We should be too.”

Posted by: too scents | Feb 26 2025 7:59 utc | 281

What will Putin do ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He should tell them to fuck off. Tell them unequivocally to Stop acting as if America and Europe won this war.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 26 2025 1:15 utc | 232

No … you totally don’t get it … Putin is winning, there’s no need for rudeness when the other guy is already heading for disaster. Putin will play for time, he will listen carefully, and very sincerely pretend to be interested, just like Europe did to him with Minsk I and Minsk II.
What he won’t do, is agree to anything.
As others have pointed out … Trump is also playing for time, in his own way, because he mostly only cares about domestic squabbles … and he wants the EU to own the problem.
The only unresolved question is what kind of stunt Trump might use to suck the Europeans into picking up the tarbaby.

Posted by: Tel | Feb 26 2025 8:00 utc | 282

Little LOL, featuring the hyped Patron doggo
https://t.me/kabezki/5340

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2025 8:00 utc | 283

Rubio just said Ukraine has refused peace negotiations.
Seems like the mineral deal will soon go down in flames, as well. USA can easily establish Ukraine has no realistic possibility to deliver on said minerals in the deal.
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1894649249448480899

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2025 8:06 utc | 284

NSFW (no gore, but emotionally)
https://t.me/kabezki/5346
Foreign mercs are not promoted to POWs

Posted by: Aroch | Feb 26 2025 8:10 utc | 285

JD Vance Dismayed With Ukrainian-Americans Who Treat Ukraine as ‘Their’ Country
https://x.com/RT_com/status/189449110111907407
“I always find it offensive that a new immigrant to our country would be willing to use the power and influence of their new nation to settle the ethnic rivalries of the old..”
Would the same apply to US Zionists? In Canada no nazi-clapping parliamentary politician would dare say such a thing – to either.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 26 2025 8:20 utc | 286

JD Vance Dismayed with Ukrainian-Americans…
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1894491101119070407
url corrected from above.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 26 2025 8:25 utc | 287

Seems like the mineral deal will soon go down in flames, as well. USA can easily establish Ukraine has no realistic possibility to deliver on said minerals in the deal.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2025 8:06 utc | 284
Why would it go down in flames? Its the optics, not the reality of digging shit out of the ground (or not)
the Nazis have their trip-wire against Russia now, that is what BoJO confirmed is the real purpose of the deal and the main leverage the Americans have in negotations with the Russians.
Forget Odessa being Russian ever again, its been handed to the Yankees.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 26 2025 8:53 utc | 288

a good overview of the history of the Nato proxy war:
Three Years of a Cruel and Destructive NATO Proxy War in Ukraine
https://multipluralworld.com/three-years-of-a-cruel-and-destructive-nato-proxy-war-in-ukraine/
“The end of February marks 3 years since the start of Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine and 11 years since the ‘Euromaidan’ coup of February 2014.
The coup was the main cause of the current military conflict. The war in the now-former eastern territories of Ukraine could have been avoided…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 26 2025 9:02 utc | 289

Kudos to Melaleuca
Re…. trump, zelensky mineral rights deal.
As discussed by boris johnson.
The mineral rights deal will be….ODESSA….
Pure speculation on my part except my knowing what rattle snakes the 3 above mentioned sub humans are.
Respect
P.s. lets see a map of these mineral rights deals. 👀

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 9:08 utc | 290

@Bobb | Feb 25 2025 21:39 utc | 157
You assume the Europeans in charge have any ideas of their own but the anglosaxon imperialists have a long legacy of brainwashing their victims.
Europe today inherits the resulting conditions of Britains evil scheming since the 18th century, for example the ‘French’ revolution and the US has later imherited a large portion of Britains former influence.
That however doesnt mean the US population has ever inherited any understanding of what is going on.
In a way it is a second order british empire that has transformed the continental Europe into more or less mental slaves.
War between EU and Russia would be remote controlled,
like Udo Ulfkotte explained how the media are.
I get the impression that this blog like many others is dominated by posters who actually dont want to underminbe the anglosaxon plans.
Perhaps socialists think they would be above such thinking.
I dont think they are. Its about their own livelyhood.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 26 2025 9:20 utc | 291

Credit go’s to night tripper @ 288 also.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 9:28 utc | 292

Petergrfstrm @ 291
Your right with what you say… but….
‘Socialist’ is a very very ambiguous word.
Hence very mislaeading. The the vast majority are good informed people, a tiny majority are hitler.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 9:40 utc | 293

Or to put it another way….
https://yandex.com/video/preview/5946427207295094277?utm_campaign=morda&utm_medium=com
Rattle snake !

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2025 9:51 utc | 294

Of course Trump has a plan for Ukraine, just like Molotov and Ribbentrop had a plan for Poland…

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Feb 26 2025 9:55 utc | 295

Regarding the supply of weapons to the Ukrainian armed forces:
For example, in the first month of D. Trump’s rule, no fewer than 70 transport aircraft from the USA arrived in Rzeszow, Poland.
In addition, the US air traffic control agency carried out at least ten flights, some from Europe, some from the Middle East and one flight from the USA.
Six flights were carried out by Ukrainian AN-124 aircraft, which is significantly more than in previous months. Previously, Ukrainian Ruslans carried out 1-3 flights.
The remaining 54 flights were carried out by commercial airlines. It should be noted that the main routes come from the USA and the Middle East (Fig. El Udeid).
Particular attention should be paid to the route “Danish Air Base Karup – Rzeszow-Jasionka”. Thus, no fewer than 11 Canadian military transport aircraft arrived at the Danish Air Base from Canada alone.
Most likely, the allies tested a new supply route through “friendlier” countries.
Thus, against the backdrop of the White House administration’s announcement of the closure of the naval base in Alexandroupolis, Greece, the Croatian hub has sharply reduced its activity. It should be noted that the military base in Greece was used to supply weapons to Ukraine and provide Athens with protection from threats from Turkey.
In addition, unlike Western Europeans, the Balkan countries are in a precarious position vis-à-vis the Russian-Ukrainian conflict and Russia in general.
As a result, the “war party” is diversifying the routes of arms supplies to the Kiev regime, trying to neutralize the likely US refusal to participate in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
P.S.: We will publish detailed statistics on the arrival of NATO military transport aircraft in Rzeszow, Poland, in early March.
.
Addendum:
It has just been announced that Poland has ordered thousands of Starlink terminals from Musk, allegedly for Ukraine.
However, insiders claim that these are intended for the Poles themselves, in preparation for a war with Russia.
Given the sheer volume of devices, insiders assume that the EU paid for and ordered them.

Posted by: berthold | Feb 26 2025 10:00 utc | 296

No plan? Perhaps not, but the Trump Admin wants out at least temporarily. Timing. US economic restructuring of priorities. Reduction in armament supplies in US and it’s allies. The cupboard is bare. Lot of $$$ lost in that project. The minerals deal (ha!) .. and re-opening normal diplomatic ties with Russia, especially in trade relations, just puts a “we win” PR spin over it, for the base back home.
Declare victory and leave, but not forever.
Like Minsk, buys time. Like the Terminator “I’ll be back”
I am inclined to Brian Berletic’s concept of “Division of Labour”, the EU to keep Russia bogged down, spend some years re-arming etc & re-fueling the US MIC, to come back another day, or at least put on more believable threatening postures … Europe in capitalism crisis, and war economy is one way to band-aid the crisis.
& Israel with it’s regional Companions to keep West Asia bogged down in the Zionist passion & zeal for cruelty & bloodied mess.
Russia will face a dilemma as they close in on their endgame. Leaving a rump state riddled with mercenary Neo-Nazis could become a permanent headache.

Posted by: Rain | Feb 26 2025 10:05 utc | 297

Posted by: Jane | Feb 25 2025 23:43 utc | 201

“Trump is playing for time, Russia time to get control of Ukraine so we/Trump don’t have to worry too much about it anymore …
That’s also the best way to deal with Europe.
Let them waste their time and money on fighting Russia in the Ukraine and/or squabbling about it “domestically,” to the extent that “domestically” even exists within the EU.

Posted by: Bonzo | Feb 26 2025 0:50 utc | 227

“It’s fascinating how sooooo many here have recently completely misinterpreted Putin and Trump’s words about potential peace keepers in Ukraine.
Both utterances can be true, but in different timeframes. …
Obviously Russia will not tolerate any foreign forces in Ukraine ***whilst fighting continues*** and while Kiev and EU are still belligerents.

1. Awaiting a “Satisfactory Ceasefire” being agreed to by RF soon ?
2. Are further weekly attacks by Terrorist brigades like Azov etc. AND UK + FR clandestine fighters being stopped then – by any immediately negotiated “ceasefire” established ?
Answer to 1+2:
> NO never – The back/underground attacks will then continue even without Trump’s influence on UKR-Gov by any minerals or other economical deals. Don’t trust that UKR regimes! Or control it later after the “Deal” by military presence.
Be aware:
The former deep state is still active on “several stages” now, not only with its EU-war monsters v.d.Liars puppets & Blackrock Taurus-Merz, Scalp-Macron etc.
> @Trump/Vance : be careful next 3 months when staying to your “promises” .. thanks.

Posted by: spare_truth_3 | Feb 26 2025 10:06 utc | 298

Something is likely to happen by or on May 9th because it seems BRICS will have a full house in Moscow. Alot can happen before then, but 2.5 months is not far away.

Posted by: Kaiama | Feb 26 2025 10:24 utc | 299

Lavrov rejects Trump’s “Russia is OK with european peacekeepers” bullshit:

Russia is not considering any options for deploying European peacekeepers in Ukraine; no one has asked Moscow about this, Lavrov said
We are waiting for Europe to stop lying about Russia blocking negotiations — Lavrov
The Ukrainian side, incited by Europe, refuses to negotiate.

Plus

Putin stated that Ukraine has not even been “discussed in essence” in the negotiations with the US.

Trump’s plan for Ukraine seems to be to parrott the points from a person he met with last, be it Macron, Starmer or others.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 26 2025 10:40 utc | 300