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January 7, 2025
WaPo Editors – Ending The War Is Worse Than Losing

The Washington Post editors have long argued for prolonging the war in Ukraine.

In November 2022, when Ukraine was in a good position to negotiate an end to the war, they argued against it:

Mr. Zelensky and his supporters in the West undoubtedly understand that peace talks might eventually be necessary, his commitment to victory notwithstanding. And yet to declare that, or even imply it, before the time is right — before Ukraine’s armed forces have exhausted every opportunity to regain occupied territory — would convey slackening commitment. And that, in turn, can only convince Mr. Putin that time is on his side and that he should prolong the fighting.

Since then Ukraine’s armed forces have exhausted every opportunity to regain occupied territory – and failed. Russia was then and is now convinced that time is on its side.

Now, finally, the editors acknowledge that their war against Russia in Ukraine is lost. But they still insist that this can not be allowed to be formalized in a ceasefire or peace treaty.

While they are stomping their feet they fail to present an alternative:

Ukraine risks losing the war. A Trump-imposed bad deal would be worse. (archived)
A settlement that dismembers Ukraine and rewards Putin will undermine U.S. credibility.

As Russia is the dominating power in the war in Ukraine there will only be one deal that can be had. It will be along the parameters the Russia's President Putin has laid out. That deal will certainly be less than optimal for the U.S. side but how would it be 'worse' for Ukraine than losing the war?

As for 'credibility':

A pullback now would convey that the United States and its allies lack staying power and that their promises come time-stamped as valid only until the next election date. How might China take such a message as its autocratic president, Xi Jinping, contemplates whether to make a military move to try to seize the self-governing democratic island of Taiwan?

The U.S. 'lack of staying power' is a feature of its democracy. It is well known that U.S. citizen's opinions about supporting a war tend to change over time. Just ask the Vietnamese or the Taliban for experience with this. No unrealistic fear mongering about China will change that fact.

It is however good to learn that the editors (finally) see the situation of Ukraine as unsustainable as it is:

Ukraine is also losing troops at a rate far beyond what it can sustain and continue fighting. The official casualty estimate of 400,000 killed or wounded is considered a vast undercount. Thousands of exhausted Ukrainian soldiers are deserting the front lines.

The editors know that it is over for Ukraine but they still reject to acknowledge the consequences. They say that a deal over Ukraine, any deal, would be bad but there is not even a hint of what an alternative might be:

Ukraine can hardly survive another year of this devastating war. But the haste to find a negotiated settlement could produce a bad one that would reward Mr. Putin for his land grab and guarantee he will launch a new attack for more territory once he has a chance to rebuild his depleted arsenal. A poor settlement would also leave Ukrainians bitter after seeing their homes, schools and factories destroyed, and friends and family members killed. Much of their anger would be directed at the Western backers who betrayed them. This is a fight America, and Ukraine, cannot lose, especially with a bad deal.

The war is lost. A hasty settlement will be bad. Russia will be embolden and the Ukrainians will be sad.

But what else is there to do? The editors don't know. They thus close with a sentence that does not even ('cannot lose') make sense.

Comments

Steven C Johnson @ 69. I agree war is a distinct possibility; there are certainly enough idiots Trump is appointing who salivate at the thought. On the other hand Eldridge Colby, nominee for an Assistant Defense for policy post, is far more cautious. He has opposed bombing of the Houties, for example. Perhaps I am too sanguine in this, but I believe important defense professionals know the US industrial production of war material is presently inadequate for more than the occasional bombing run. I will be watching for how much is spent in the US over the next few years on increasing armament production, which policies I will protest. But I am of the opinion that the US industrial base is too weakened to rise to the occasion in less than a decade, or longer. Sabers will rattle, but war with China, Russia or Iran will be avoided. I hope.

Posted by: mjh | Jan 7 2025 23:06 utc | 101

Posted by: james | Jan 7 2025 16:58 utc | 6
“trump and bezos will restore it somehow..”
Did you mean to say Trump and Emperor Musk?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 7 2025 23:09 utc | 102

The WaPo talks about Russia’s “depleted stocks” of weapons…They didn’t notice the devastating new missile and Russia’s mass production of superior weapons…
Send these clowns to the front….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Jan 7 2025 23:13 utc | 103

As for the American military, the Houthis just sent another American carrier packing back to the refit yard…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Jan 7 2025 23:15 utc | 104

@ Posted by: kupkee | Jan 7 2025 20:20 utc | 73
“Empire of India have now fully imported the Indian/Muslim tradition of neutering the Mandarin Class, for the hands behind the curtain.”
I’m having difficulty understanding that sentence.
Can you elaborate please?
What “empire of India”?
What ‘tradition of neutering”!
What “mandarin class”?
For what “hands”?
Behind which “curtain”?
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On Greenland, which was the primary reason for responding to your post, appears to be the DJT’s master plan of creating the diversion to assuage the pirate crowd who expected to steal the resources and land of Ukrainians whilst getting them out of their birthright lands for the Bankers and Robber Barons – alive or DEAD.
To the last Ukranian! Whilst taking control of the Black Sea after centuries of trying and hoping to balkanise the RF.
since they have already ‘booked he profits’ of what they expected to steal! Which is why the hue and cry or ‘cannot be possible’ from wapo. There is no Ukraine of tens of millions it’s carcass is what will be left after many other regions vote to become independent and then allied to its neighbouring Russophile regions. Including Odessa. They can only stop that by a miltary occupation and suppression of its region and Peoples.
Greenland with its poxy town sized population of not even 60k – sixty thousand!!! Along with its supposed Danish superpower coloniser – Vikings of old stop to Vineland, has not been anything but the North Alantatists defacto colony for ever! It certainly has no free choice to be part of BRICS or god forbid BRI which is what it’s population on get to embrace. They’d all becom as rich as the sheiks of desert land.
The salesman will say they will have all the land and resources of that occupied depopulated Ukraine and more for none of the hassle and close to the mainland USA.
And that will be that as far as the voters are concerned- they’ll even get to love it. As they will his Son! All biblical as usual.
Britain btw has been part of Yankee occupation bases for as long as most lifetimes of the current population.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 7 2025 23:21 utc | 105

Do the WaPo editors actually believe that another year of fighting and losing—in every sense of the word—will enable Ukraine to get a better deal than it can now? Of course they don’t. They just want endless war to weaken Russia (and enrich MIC contractors). But Russia’s military has gained in strength after nearly three years of fighting, so why would a fourth year make it lose strength? It won’t. The whole premise of the editorial is pure garbage.

Posted by: Rob | Jan 7 2025 23:44 utc | 106

Daily DS Map update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800
Another relatively slow day at 12.5 kmsq taken by the RFA. Similar to the DEC pace of 13/day and roughly half the NOV pace of 23/day.
Advances in Donetsk from general Velyka Novasilka (a bit W of it) to Kherakove, to Pokrovsk arena to Toretsk.
Also some advance in the curious Oskil River crossing.
Decent sized advances in Kursk, also. (Not counted in RFA total, as I never counted the incursion, itself, from UFA.)

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 7 2025 23:52 utc | 107

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/01/who-benefits-from-russias-war-in-ukraine.html Documents growing wealth of Russian billionaire plutocrats despite or as a result of U.S./EU sanctions

Posted by: mjh | Jan 7 2025 23:55 utc | 108

Simplicius reposted this video from 2015 where Sergey Dorenko makes a number of prophetic predictions about a most intense European war in the year 2025 and beyond. I agree with him, that once “to the last Ukrainian” is accomplished later this year, NATO is going to go in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FUjT6XS0ugbf/

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jan 8 2025 0:04 utc | 109

Along with Pepe Escobar, I highly suggest viewing this Emmanuel Todd interview that’s in French of course, but has the option of CC in English. Todd makes many excellent points and observations, but perhaps his most provocative remark was “Trump will need to manage the [Outlaw US Empire]’s defeat vis-a-vis Russia.” Yes, we can say that militarily Russia has defeated NATO and thus its US-driven conflict; however, as I commented earlier, the Deep State wants the conflict to continue, which is the point of the WaPost item. For those running the Deep State, it matters not that a tactical setback occurs as what’s paramount is that the grind continues against Russia and now Eurasia overall. The Deep State views its geopolitical strategy to be one of attrition, just as the Cold War was. Evidence of that comes from the interview Blinken gave to the NY Times that was filmed and a clip was shown during Napolitano’s chat today with Escobar where past actions are completely dismissed–it’s the “we make our own reality now” in action. The only interests that matter are those of the Deep State.
I see Europeans having a better chance of escaping their dilemma than us here within the Empire as the oligarchy and its Deep State allies have a death grip on all three branches of the federal government and there’s no multiparty electoral system that can be used to oust the Empire’s vassals.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 8 2025 0:24 utc | 110

Of WaPo, I don’t even trust their blatant lies are fully on the up and up as supposedly *liberal* lies.

Posted by: Ludovic | Jan 8 2025 0:44 utc | 111

Ray@2202 Jan 7
You both wonder and speculate why Germany acts like a whipped puppy. Background makes this question obvious. Neither the UK nor the U$$A have deigned to sign a PEACE TREATY for that occupied entity. Gross Admiral Karl Doenitz surrendered all German armed forces on May 8, 1945. At that time Hitler was nowhere to be found and the rest of his cronies had run for the hills. Thus, Germany was without a GOVERNMENT ever since.
Each and every Deutsche regime has been but a puppet entity. They are still under the bootheals of U$$A occupation forces. Very few Americans have ever accessed this information and thusly are ignorant of the true status of that nation which will suffer its 80th year of occupation in the month of May.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 8 2025 1:16 utc | 112

cocoliso@2111 Jan 7
Justin case you have yet to discover this fact, Robert Kagan happens to be Khazarian Royalty. The name, like that of Elena Kagan on the $upremes, along with Stalin’s Holodomor enforcer Lazar Kaganovitch, are all three evidentially descendants from the ruling Kaganz of the piratical, slave-taking and caravan robbing Khazarian tribes. That particular Kagan mass converted his gangstas to Talmudist Judaism in ca 740 A.D.
Majority of Jewish Americans happen to be of Khazarian/Ashkenazim descendance. Currently, the Zionist $tate in Occupied Palestine contain a leadership which yearns for the return of an Empire which had been punished and destroyed by a combination of Kievan Rus descendants of Swedish Vikings along with the Persian Empire. So now you know why the 1060 destruction of the Khazarian Empire rankles the Talmudist leaders of the Khazarian peoples. They out for vengeance against Ukraine, Russia and Iran (Persia) and their dearest dream is to restore their more than thousand years previous Empire, which originally reigned from the western end of the Baltic to lands extending to and from the Caspian Sea.
Currently the central bank$ter cabal is in the main, controlled by long-plotting Khazarians. Both Larry Johnson and Colonel Wilkerson “alternatives”, accurate on a number of their podcast performances, are fearful of being deplatformed by the Khazarian occulted rulers of the U$$A. Their ass-covering claims is that the Zionist Entity is but the “attack dog” of the U$$A empire. Truth is close to the other way around. Those central bank$ters OWN most of institutionalized American voices and managers.
Khazarian royalty and their various subjects are not genuine descendants of the ancient Hebrews. Many alternative commentators call them “fake Jews”. Fortunately for the freedom of the human race, there are spokespersons of Jewish heritage who are not on board with the Khazarian Mafiya. Their voices have been heard and heeded by numerous younger individuals of Jewish families. A truly reformed Judaism will not adhere to the ruling Sanhedrin Rabbinate. The future of Judaism is in the hands of awakening Jewish youth.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 8 2025 1:39 utc | 113

Apologies for Errata: “Baltic” should be read as Black Sea.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 8 2025 1:41 utc | 114

Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 7 2025 17:09 utc | 8
From inauguration nato simply means President Trump. While Odessa very strategic for Russia is it for US considering rest of black sea coast controlled by nato states. Will Don care what UK thinks. What has UK got to intrest Trump. No natural resources,influence or mercenaries willing to die for the empire. We also don’t know the backroom deals
Washington Post in a strange way looks,it is for Russia. Freezing the conflict now will give another chance for Ukraine to come back and start all over again. So they are suggesting utter destruction

Posted by: Michael J | Jan 8 2025 1:55 utc | 115

Eighthman@2031 Jan 7
Unwittingly, you have fallen to a most common (particularly in the U$$A) semantic trap.
From my researches I have determined that the Pathans in Afghanistan are not “pedophiles”. More correctly, they would be described as pederasts. Difference may seem minor to most Americans, as pedophiles, a term from the Hellenic era, were pre-pubescent boys…children to be sure.
Pederasts, such as many in Plato’s circles, along with several Roman emperors, most particularly Hadrian, were lovers of youths, whether horny teenagers or those known as Ephebophiles , lovers of young men, such as half the partners in the elite “guard” warriors, the ultimate defenders known as the Sacred Band of Thebes.
No particular fault is accused here. Simply said, Americans in general are likely the most historically ignorant people in the Western world…in large part due to John D. Rottenfeller, who instituted the colleges of edumacasion in order to deliberately dumb down the American people. Clever minderbinders of the Bernaysian persuasion constantly and consistently create narratives which are generally swallowed whole by those who have been rendered into the Ignoranti.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 8 2025 1:56 utc | 116

@109
The main purpose of Washington Post and NY Times is to feed the cognitive dissonance of the US’ oligarch worshipping deep state.
I do not read past the headline of any US media.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 8 2025 2:04 utc | 117

Apparently the U.S. Fed dictating the lowering of Short Term interest rates down is landing on deaf ears for U.S. Government Debt Holders/Buyers. $7 Trillion to refinance and $3 Trillion new borrowings this U.S. Fiscal year.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we use U.S. dollars to deceive.
Posted by: kupkee | Jan 7 2025 19:33 utc | 59
Musk repeatedly warning about this and suggesting cutting back expenditure. Feel that alone won’t work. They will have to devalue the dollar. US exporters especially military industrial complex would love it. President Trump the bankruptcy expert. Downside global adventure over

Posted by: Michael J | Jan 8 2025 2:09 utc | 118

The reason the WaPo article doesn’t make much sense is that it’s not meant to. It’s designed to start a pointless debate with no meaningful conclusion.
It’s easy to forget that WaPo is one of the 12 Zionist-controlled MSM outlets named by Musk in his circa May 2018 tweet titled:
“Who do you think owns the Press?”
“Hello.”
In the tweet he named the outlets and listed the jews in charge of each one. The outlets were CBS, abc, NBC, CNN, NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, Guardian, Economist, BBC, Vox and Buzzfeed.
So the ‘puzzling’ WaPo article was intended to deflect attention from what the Genocide Jews are doing in Gaza and the Middle East and elsewhere.
And it worked!!
The jews hate Trump because in a 2016 speech he complained about about the $6 Trillion USA pissed away on Middle East wars (We could have rebuilt this country twice!).
The Zionists knew he was referring to them in that 2016 speech and his adoption of Musk as an advisor removed any lingering doubt.
Bibi is NOT happy.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 8 2025 2:44 utc | 119

without reading any above responses…
“Orange man BAD!
Anything Orange man does is bad!!
Anything Orange man says or thinks is bad!!!
Anyone who associates with Orange man is bad!!!!!”
It really doesn’t matter what the subject will be over the next 4 years, this will be what any MSM article is about.
At best, I yawn thinking about it. Mostly, I ignore it, and wouldn’t even know about it without b writing this article.
Nothing the MSM writes will change 98% of the US thoughts on the war. Most simply don’t care anymore.
Once Trump releases the true Ukraine losses (which I’m sure he will) then the true US reconciliation begins.
That outta be fun….

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jan 8 2025 2:46 utc | 120

@122
The factors saving the US dollar are: pound, euro, Yen and yuan are in terrible shape much weaker than the US dollar.
The US federal reserve printed $4.9 trillion bucks for Trump, Biden and the Covid panic. Its balance sheet remains at $6.9 trillion in treasuries and bank mortgage (left over from 208) notes after declining about $2 trillion.
The federal reserve cut rates because in spite of other currency weaknesses, it is throwing the US dollar off the curb to finance huge US government deficits.
The federal reserve controls daily rates by selling treasuries “over night” to suck up excess cash in the banking system, but cannot seem to convince the long term debt investors to enjoy the lower rates they demand!
Printing money will effect the US dollar!
Countries/economies with factories, farm land and resources like Russia and China have all the time needed to outlast the US money printing empire.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 8 2025 2:50 utc | 121

I agree with him, that once “to the last Ukrainian” is accomplished later this year, NATO is going to go in.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jan 8 2025 0:04 utc | 112

Well, there WAS that famous Deagel foreast of a 70% depopulation event in US & Europe.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 8 2025 3:02 utc | 122

“Orange man BAD!
Anything Orange man does is bad!!
Anything Orange man says or thinks is bad!!!
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jan 8 2025 2:46 utc | 124
Orange man full of shit!!
Could Trump seize the Panama Canal?
Trump in his ‘America First’ policy portrays the handover as a symbol of US governance by ‘weak’ leaders
Is Panama at risk of losing control over the canal?
A short answer is that Trump does not have the means to “take back” the canal without engaging in an illegal war of aggression.
The canal zone was never US property; it was only leased. The canal is not at risk of being lost.
Instead, Trump’s statements appear to be an opening gambit in his broader strategy to regain influence in Latin America.
Some useful history:
MORE…
https://asiatimes.com/2025/01/could-trump-seize-the-panama-canal/

Posted by: Menz | Jan 8 2025 3:11 utc | 123

Simplicius reposted this video from 2015 where Sergey Dorenko makes a number of prophetic predictions about a most intense European war in the year 2025 and beyond. I agree with him, that once “to the last Ukrainian” is accomplished later this year, NATO is going to go in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FUjT6XS0ugbf/
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jan 8 2025 0:04 utc | 112
De dollarization is the only solution

Posted by: Michael J | Jan 8 2025 3:20 utc | 124

For those wondering about Greenland, there is a precedent.
The US Virgin Islands. $25 million purchased from Denmark in 1916.
That would only be $700 million today. Many billionaires could afford that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jan 8 2025 3:25 utc | 125

I cannot get over the fact that the US lost the longest war in its history to an irregular militia of goat herding pedophiles. It’s like somehow, that never happened, totally erased from mass consciousness.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 7 2025 20:41 utc | 79
Let’s not forget Charlie and the Rice Farmers with AKs and flip flops.
And now Trump is making noises of “marching on York”(Toronto). And Panama. And Greenland.
It seems like these buffoons never learn.

Posted by: Original Newbie | Jan 8 2025 3:26 utc | 126

Americans have never been all that thrilled about the war in Ukraine to begin with. Why should they? The war is a faraway conflict in a faraway land. US national security interests – the real national security interests, not the profits of the MICC – are not at stake. Americans have especially not been pleased to see hundreds of billions of dollars spent on Ukraine’s ‘defense’ at a time of historic inflation rates not seen in half-a-century. Worse still, the war has brought the US and Russia closer to direct military (nuclear) confrontation than any other time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
In short, the Russo-Ukrainian War has nothing to do with the American people at large, and the American want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: Monos | Jan 8 2025 3:33 utc | 127

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2025 17:10 utc | 9

Isn’t it the very same expert who preached here just half a year ago that Biden was a great statesman, despite the mass media having the audacity to critisize him strictly while giving all the possible slack to Trump? The same very expert?
What are you selling now? Clap?

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 8 2025 3:34 utc | 128

” the United States and its allies lack staying power”
The US and it’s vassals have fought in I don’t know how many conflicts since 1950. Only the Invasion of Grenada could be called a victory. Otherwise, our Fearless Leaders kill a lot of people, waste a lot of money only expensive war machines, then pull out, leaving control to brown men with rifles.Like Little Jack Horner, we tell ourselves “what a good boy am I”!
The wars are apparently meanly to kill lots of people and to enrich the makers of expensive war machines. So far, the destruction has mostly been in Vietnam, Iraq, et al. but that will probably change in the end.

Posted by: lester | Jan 8 2025 3:54 utc | 129

Someone in the pentagon i on the way out…. https://tass.com/world/1896793
B, on another note, there is now a new “Original Newbie” a couple of posts upstream, if it’s the same as before he never mentioned when he was supposed to have used it (and I think nobody here remembers if true)
And on the ukraine thread someone barfed again… just checked, think you already started janitorial duty 😀
Pentagon unveils NATO plans on granting military assistance to Ukraine until 2027
The Pentagon representative said that eight “capabilities coalitions” have been created within the Ukraine Defense Contact Group
© Alexey Vitvitsky/TASS
WASHINGTON, January 8. /TASS/. Western countries will divide Ukraine’s military needs into several types and define NATO countries responsible for deliveries in each of these areas, a high-ranking Pentagon representative told a briefing on Tuesday.
The Pentagon representative said that eight “capabilities coalitions” have been created within the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the Western group coordinating arms deliveries to Kiev.
“Each coalition represents one aspect of Ukraine’s military capabilities and is co-led by at least two separate NATO nations,” he said.
“The leaders of these coalitions will need to endorse roadmaps that articulate Ukraine’s air force, armor, artillery, de-mining, drone, integrated air and missile defense, information technology and maritime security needs and objectives through 2027,” the Pentagon representative said.
The 25th meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the Western group coordinating arms deliveries to Kiev, will be held at Ramstein Air Base in Germany on January 9 and will be attended by US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 8 2025 4:14 utc | 130

Russian asset seizure is best for de dollarization. Russia really doesn’t loose much as equal amount invested by West in Russia. Rest of the world will get out of dollar/euro/pound/gold kept in west etc
Even vassal states will use bonds as collateral by which it remain in their name but nothing in it

Posted by: Michael J | Jan 8 2025 5:43 utc | 131

A pullback now would convey that the United States and its allies lack staying power and that their promises come time-stamped as valid only until the next election date. How might China take such a message as its autocratic president, Xi Jinping, contemplates whether to make a military move to try to seize the self-governing democratic island of Taiwan?”
These MSM morons project their bullshit, warmongering onto other countries who do not now, nor have they any aspirations to be the Zionist, colonist racist, psychopathic billionaires and their MIC, political puppets that infest the US like a bad case of roaches.
These MSM morons want to leave the door wide open so that they can convince neighboring NATO puppets to take the place of Ukraine! Our media is nothing short of disgusting.
Sorry, Black Rock, your hopes and aspirations to STEAL Russian lithium and other precious metals in the Donbass ALONE are GONE.
Are they willing to risk a world war for their selfish greed?
I wonder how Americans would feel about that?
This country needs a wake up call.

Posted by: Kay | Jan 8 2025 5:50 utc | 132

@Alfred:
“What do you expect from Zionists who support the genocide of Palestinians?”
Ah. Indeed, as well as a very good and simple point. The very same political sociopaths committing genocide in Palestine, are the very same doing it to Ukraine, having done it to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam etc.
This country and it’s Gov are extremely evil and deeply sick and our society with it.
The faces might change, but the disgusting, racist, Zionazi ideology does not

Posted by: Kay | Jan 8 2025 6:17 utc | 133

The WaPo article exemplifies the ‘strategic thinking’ of the US permanent state. I don’t say that with sarcasm (well, a wee bit) but to point out that when core premises (the Ukraine war must be won, hegemony maintained) is confronted with intractable reality, the progression of the argument can only be more word salad, dressed up with so much oil to lubricate all those inoperable bits. Late-stage empire is the processing of word salad.

Posted by: Mastameta | Jan 8 2025 6:49 utc | 134

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 7 2025 20:41 utc | 79
I love data: killing one of those sandal-wearing goat herders cost over US$40 millions to the US taxpayer.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 8:48 utc | 135

Posted by: Ray | Jan 7 2025 22:02 utc | 93

I just don’t understand why the Germans put up with it. Are they scared because of all the US troops in bases there?

Paul Craig Roberts once asked this same question (but replace “Germans” with “Europeans”) to a senior State apparatchik when PCR worked for the Reagan admin.
The answer was “Money”.
PCR came back seeking precision “so it is because of economic help, investments, trade?”
The answer was “No, it’s bags full of cash delivered personally to multitude of European politicians”.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 9:05 utc | 136

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 7 2025 22:16 utc | 97
Yes. As I have explained here, the EU was an idea of USA political elites from the 50s of the past century. The goal was to centralize control to facilitate US dominion over Europe. This is all documented in USA National Archives, in de-classified documents.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 9:10 utc | 137

Odessa was founded by Kathrine the Great back in the 1700’s and has ever since been an ethnic Russian majority or at least plurality city. Virtually NO Ukraine dialect MaloRussians have ever lived there. The only claim by the Kiev coup regime to Odessa is an arrangement by Lenin in 1921 to add that Oblast and neighboring ones to Ukraine SSR. That political entity no longer exists. The coup regime has no logical claim to that dominantly Russian region.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2025 18:33 utc | 42
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Correct
And neither Trump nor any other Western country will dare to send its troops to Odessa.
Even if Odessa is the linchpin of all Western BUT also of Russia’s strategy.
That is precisely why EVERYONE will be careful that it does NOT become a spark.
The geopolitical situation of Odessa is beyond question BUT Turkey will also have a say here…and in turn will set conditions for Trump if the worst comes to the worst…what use is Odessa in NATO hands if no ships are allowed to dock in Odessa (warships) NOTHING.
Odessa is important for the REST OF UKRAINE and therefore for Blackrock’s investments.
A rest of Ukraine WITHOUT Odessa means for Blackrock AND ITS INVESTORS…100% loss of trillions of dollars already invested, loss of the expected trillions that lured Blackrock investors into the risky business in the first place. The losses are then associated with an almost CERTAIN stock market crash
and ALL THE ELITES of this economic world know this…THAT’S WHY THERE’S TALK ABOUT A CEASEFIRE, it’s about saving what can be saved…saving from Putin!
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Not just my opinion, although it is obvious if you apply “follow the money”.
Stock market analysts have also recognized…ceasefire… otherwise the West will have REAL problems that no Trump can protect against

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 9:19 utc | 138

Russian asset seizure is best for de dollarization. Russia really doesn’t loose much as equal amount invested by West in Russia. Rest of the world will get out of dollar/euro/pound/gold kept in west etc
Even vassal states will use bonds as collateral by which it remain in their name but nothing in it
Posted by: Michael J | Jan 8 2025 5:43 utc | 135
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Well, in the end, the West will definitely pay for the confiscation of the Russians’ approximately 350 billion.
Why:
Now Russia’s foreign debt is around 470 billion dollars…
of course Russia is no longer paying this back and has already stopped all payments on account.
We in the Western bubble just didn’t report it that way in the press, because “withholding 350 billion” sounds better than a loss of around 100 billion for the World Bank and thus for the West.
.Google:
Russia’s foreign debt averaged 419.03 billion USD from 1993 to 2024, reaching an all-time high of 732.80 billion USD in the second quarter of 2014 and a record low of 118.00 billion USD in the fourth quarter of 1993.
. Question:
Who is really making a loss if you correctly define the propaganda message
“Around 350 billion frozen”?
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https://de.tradingeconomics.com/russia/external-debt#:~:text=Bank%20of%20Russia-,Die%20Auslandsschulden%20in%20Russland%20betrugen%20durchschnittlich%20419%2C03%20Milliarden%20USD,USD%20im%20vierten%20Quartal%201993.

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 9:31 utc | 139

Looks like even the knowledge deficient people of Nafo understand that once Nato starts eating up its own members, that alliance is finished.

RIP NATO (1949–2025). Today, the alliance met its demise as the U.S. threatened Denmark with military force over Greenland. When the strongest member turns on its allies, the foundation crumbles. NATO is no longer a united front—it’s officially dead. #NATO #Trump #Greenland

https://x.com/Meanmelon/status/1876709130938818738

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 8 2025 9:32 utc | 140

Nato exists to keep the USA in, Russia out and Germany down.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 8 2025 9:43 utc | 141

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 8 2025 1:16 utc | 115
Which other continental European nations can you name that are in the same situation as Germany?
And how many people in Russia know this? I expect them to be smart. Imagine my disappointment when I see Medvedev’s post on 27 December advocating to “ignore the USA [the imperial overlord]” and “punish [the USA’s vassals in] Europe”.
(His proposal also involves “forgiving [the Asian and Latin American countries that were pressured by the “Anglo-Saxons”]”. Which European countries besides Hungary, Slovakia and Serbia can legitimately fall under that umbrella as well?)

Posted by: joey_n | Jan 8 2025 10:01 utc | 142

NATO is falling apart and Trump is the lever
Trump is de facto threatening Denmark and Panama with war and wants negotiations with Putin
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The designated US President Trump spoke in a press conference about his plans for Greenland, Panama and Ukraine and in fact threatened Denmark and Panama with war. But his other statements were also interesting.
by Anti-Spiegel
January 8, 2025 8:00 a.m.
Trump gave a press conference that was really something, because he de facto threatened Denmark with war, which also shows what he thinks of the Europeans and NATO. Apparently he no longer wants to show any consideration in his second term and wants to push through his plans with all his might.

https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/trump-droht-daenemark-und-panama-de-facto-mit-krieg-und-will-verhandlungen-mit-putin/
[b here – I cut back the comment.
Copies of whole pieces are not necessary.
It’s called the web for reason.
Provide a summary, a link and your thoughts on it.]

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:16 utc | 143

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Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:17 utc | 144

New map of US is out.
https://i.imgur.com/r7aZpNS.jpeg

Posted by: Surferket | Jan 8 2025 10:24 utc | 145

Musk (and Trump) vs. Starmer
What is behind Musk’s attacks on British Prime Minister Starmer
Elon Musk has begun his attack on the British Prime Minister and accuses him of covering up systematic child abuse in which thousands of minors were raped as British Attorney General. What is really behind the story?
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by Anti-Spiegel
January 7, 2025 9:22 p.m.
Elon Musk wrote on X that the USA should free the “British people from the tyranny of the government” of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Musk had previously stated that Starmer should resign and face trial because the British Prime Minister was complicit in sexual crimes that were committed against underage girls in the north of England for decades. The allegation concerns a scandal involving rape and sexual exploitation of young girls and minors in Oldham, Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford and other cities. The crimes began in the late 1980s and early 1990s and continued until the mid-2010s.
The scandal

Anti-Spiegel
One of the best analysts on Russia and Ukraine…directly from Saint Petersburg (some directly from the front)

[b here – I cut back the comment.
Copies of whole pieces are not necessary.
It’s called the web for reason.
Provide a summary, a link and your thoughts on it.]
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https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/was-hinter-musks-angriffen-auf-den-britischen-premier-starmer-steckt/

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:26 utc | 146

…Imagine my disappointment when I see Medvedev’s post on 27 December advocating to “ignore the USA [the imperial overlord]” and “punish [the USA’s vassals in] Europe”…
Posted by: joey_n | Jan 8 2025 10:01 utc | 146

Ri-i-ight, “We were just following orders!”
There is a saying in Russia: “Everyone was taught to be like this, but why did you strive to be the teacher’s pet”?

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 8 2025 10:33 utc | 147

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:16 utc | 147
Trump could not threaten war on Panama, Canada and potentially Greenland unless his Zio-backers are on board with it. The Zio-backers must know the consequence of weakening Nato, even through words.
Can we therefore conclude that the real Zio-backing powers in the US are authorizing Trump to say words and do actions that they know will weaken Nato? What do the Zio-backers gain from breaking Nato? Are there two different Zio-factions in the US(Atlanticists/Globalists and some other faction)?

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 8 2025 10:34 utc | 148

Current US government imposes sanctions on Orban’s office manager
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My comment on this:
They are lashing out until the last minute…which can give us a taste of what will happen when the entire system is dying…”After us the deluge…if in doubt, a nuclear bunker”

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by Anti-Spiegel
January 7, 2025 7:17 p.m.
The Hungarian Prime Minister Orban is against the political line of the current US government on many issues. He is for peace in Ukraine and against arms deliveries to Kiev, he is resisting mass migration, he is maintaining his country’s business ties with Russia and he openly sympathizes with Donald Trump, to name just a few examples.

https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/us-regierung-verhaengt-sanktionen-gegen-orbans-bueroleiter/
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Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:37 utc | 149

To ( B )
Sorry, I’ll take it into account in the future…
(But apparently some people haven’t noticed that their browser translates…here German into …..? )
That’s why as much information as possible is in English here.
Sorry

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:41 utc | 150

So this is by “the editorial board”?
Articles so bad and embarassing that these cowards have to hide in group anonimity to spout their garbage.
No better than nameless online trolls.
None of them can be held accountable personally or legally.
The Economist even has a policy of total anonimity for all their articles.
They OC sell it as a positive thing and use the expression “hive mind” to praise their ‘collective voice’.
And that might be an accurate description if you look it up in a dictionary:
producing uncritical conformity
-(in science fiction) a unified consciousness or intelligence formed by a number of alien individuals, the resulting consciousness typically exerting control over its constituent members.
“there is a Borg Queen who controls the hive mind”

I wonder who the Borg Queen is in our reality?

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 8 2025 11:06 utc | 151

@ ossi | Jan 8 2025 9:31 utc | 143
Could you provide a breakdown by country of Russia’s foreign debt? Your argument is persuasive if it’s owed to the West; but if a large chunk of it is owed to, say, China, then not so much.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 8 2025 11:16 utc | 152

Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 9:10 utc | 141

This is all documented in USA National Archives, in de-classified documents.

I would like a link to those

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 8 2025 11:53 utc | 153

I often feel that it’s my mission in life to point out stuff that nobody else brings up. So, here goes….
Who The Hell Is Going To Live And Work In Greenland? They have less than 60K people. Worse, the US may fantasize about mining there – which takes years of unproductive, unprofitable investment and well paid workers. And this amidst a general context of complaint by robber barons that ‘people don’t want to work’ as it is. I can’t imagine this nonsense happening.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 12:18 utc | 154

And it all starts with failing to break RF in ukraine.
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 7 2025 18:06 utc | 29
“Wars have consequences.”
Military Summary Channel reported on three missiles that hit Chernihiv, supposedly going 8,000 miles per hour, which if i crunched the numbers correctly, is about mach 10, approx. Oreshnik speed.
Just curious if Anyone has any other information or it was just rumors?

Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 8 2025 12:38 utc | 155

the US wanted to impose another Afghanistan on Russia, but I believe that Russia was prepared to avoid such a scenario and this is why they are taking a very cautious approach
Posted by: jared | Jan 7 2025 21:45 utc | 92
Exactly. UKrain escalation is the retribution for the Syria intervention. Hezbollah < Syria < Iran < Russia < China

Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 8 2025 13:00 utc | 156

@103
I was very surprised to learn that, until recently, Robert Kagan was among WaPo’s leading foreign policy editors. The authors of those editorials, of course, never reveal their names.
This means that, in all the years when Kagan’s wife, top DoS official Vicky Nuland, managed the Ukraine war (from at least 2013), he continued to influence American public opinion on an almost undercover basis.

Posted by: GW | Jan 8 2025 13:04 utc | 157

…the US may fantasize about mining there…
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 12:18 utc | 158

The USA plans not to “do anything” but to claim the rights on someone’s property. That means, the same people would do what they always did, but the USA would be paid for this. Also, whenever the USA would want to rent the said property for someone else to do something there, the USA would get their cut.

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 8 2025 13:05 utc | 158

The AFU latest attack in Kursk reportedly failed so badly that RUAF has been able to attack from south of Sudzha, threatening the intersection supporting AFU front. The AFU spearhead of infantry carrying AFVs NE of Sudzha have been destroyed, halted and pushed back.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 8 2025 13:09 utc | 159

Across Europe the variety and number of politicians makes it insensible to try to have hooks in all of them…but the EC helps by reducing this to a small number of executives with inordinate power.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 7 2025 22:16 utc | 97
Excellent post, sums up “democracies” around the world. Only need to leverage a small number of individuals and a semblance of local control is staged.
I would add threats and assassinations. Schulzes building had been broken into twice near the beginning of his presidency iirc. Just like baby Bush had an armed Israeli within 10′ of him during his inauguration. And the Pakistani couple that crashed Obamas party.

Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 8 2025 13:09 utc | 160

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 9:19 utc | 142
Blackrock is a glorified mutual fund for the most part that does not invest its own money. Most of the cash is from government pension funds. Vanguard group, who owns 51 percent of Blackrock shares, will make money even if those funds are lost as Blackrock will still collect fees from bad investments as they are cleared off the books.

Posted by: Badjoke | Jan 8 2025 13:17 utc | 161

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/video/2024/01/25/more-alaskans-are-leaving-working-age-population-then-entering-it/
Alaska is shrinking, regardless of undeveloped resources. People don’t wanna be there. And now they want Greenland?

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 13:30 utc | 162

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 12:18 utc | 158
No one is thinking the whole Greenland issue through.
The US bought the Virgin Islands because they were worried about Germany getting it first, and using it as a submarine base, among other things.
Greenland is strategically placed as the jumping off point from North America to Europe. The US has had air bases there, and it could also house a submarine base with some construction effort.
But the real value is in up, not surface. It is ideal for a first alert missile warning system. Look at the near polar air routes between northwestern Russia and the US. In addition, if you need satellite tracking stations (or alternately, a launch point to attack satellites from). All of this w/o using the Canadian airspace and having to deal with their screwed up government.
If you believe the global warming hysteria (I certainly don’t) with a near ice free arctic, then controlling both sides of that passage (Greenland, Alaska) also makes sense.
Look at which other country could influence the arctic. Norway, which has a tiny Navy, no real Army, and is hell bent on driving out billionaires through heavy taxes. The UK? Just as bad. That leaves Canada and Russia.
Denmark has no navy either, no air force for any long range activities, and their army? Well, look it up. They can proudly deploy (with the help of NATO) ONE whole brigade for up to 60 days.
As an extreme socialist country, the need other peoples money to survive. They can’t defend their own homeland w/o massive help from NATO. They certainly can’t defend Greenland thousands of miles away on their own.
In the end either Trump will negotiate a dual use partnership, or simply come up with a payment plan to purchase Greenland.
I have said here before, you need to think in big term about ending the Ukraine war. If Trump lets Russia get most of Ukraine, what will Russia do in return?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jan 8 2025 13:36 utc | 163

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 13:30 utc | 169
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Why does Trump want Alaska and Greenland…why is no one analyzing this here…it’s just a megalomaniacal Trumpian thing.
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It’s about the Arctic…and the areas (territorial waters) that a country can claim.
And the size of these territories depends on the length of the respective country’s national border that borders the Arctic.
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And Russia is ahead of the game here…the USA would only have the coastline of Alaska to allocate…and that’s ridiculous compared to Russia.
So it’s about money again, about natural resources…it’s “follow the money” again

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 13:40 utc | 164

“Obama’s land grab in Libya& Syria and slaughtering over 5 million for which he collected a nobel peace prize”
Posted by: Srang | Jan 7 2025 17:48 utc | 23
Excellent sarcasm! However, Obama got the Nobel at the beginning of his term, for being a black president, long before he started drone striking weddings. That’s when, for for me at least, the Nobel crowd lost all credibility.

Posted by: madmarc | Jan 8 2025 13:41 utc | 165

@ Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 10:26 utc | 150
“What is behind Musk’s attacks on British Prime Minister Starmer”
I explained in detail already here
Posted by: DunGroanin”>https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/01/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2025-001.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3c8823c200c/“>DunGroanin | Jan 7 2025 16:22 utc |248
He is ‘helping’ HerrStarmztrooper and his ziofacists Masters to push the U.K. subjects towards irrational frothing at the mouth hatred so they can be incited to be conscripted as suicidal boots on the ground against the Russians, Chinese, Iranians – to whatever part of the world they think can be stolen. The Levant, Venezuela… AFRICA for our forever zionazi ancient Masters and Owners.
@ Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 8 2025 11:06 utc | 155
“I wonder who the Borg Queen is”
Lynne De Rothschild ?

Posted by: DunGroanin l | Jan 8 2025 13:45 utc | 166

@karlof1 | Jan 7 2025 22:15 utc, who said:

WaPost doesn’t want Ukraine conflict to stop because that’s the Deep State’s mojo for Eurasia–keep the arc of instability on fire in as many places as possible to delay Eurasian development and thus its ability to douse those fires. It’s really very simple, basic even.

Seconded.
That’s the West’s strategy with respect to Russia.
Russia and China’s strategy is to run Asian integration as well and as fast as possible; to “keep their eye on the ball”.
The other part of the West’s strategy is to hoover up any and all poorly defended resources within the West’s ambit. If you can’t steal Eurasia … well, what about Central and South America, Canada, … Greenland?
Think about this: in your wildest dreams, would you have _ever_ expected that Greenland idea to get _any_ credence … 10 years ago? “If we can’t buy it, we’re gonna take it by force. National security, and all”.
Beggars belief.
If anyone’s still in doubt that “things are changing” and “the Empire’s struggling” … just consider how extreme things have gotten lately.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 8 2025 13:45 utc | 167

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/video/2024/01/25/more-alaskans-are-leaving-working-age-population-then-entering-it/
Alaska is shrinking, regardless of undeveloped resources. People don’t wanna be there. And now they want Greenland?
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 13:30 utc | 169
So? This is not about population. It’s about territory. And more claims to arctic resources. The US has discovered the Arctic as its next large battle ground in its fight against Russia.
Consider self-image as well. Currently the US is only the fourth largest country in the world. After the Russian Federation, Canada, and China. One can easily see where that would give American leadership an inferiority complex.
If Greenland is a vital threat to the US, Hawaii should be considered a vital threat to its surroundings. Someone should offer Trump a deal: swap Hawaii against Greenland. Any inhabitant of Hawaii who doesn’t like that can relocate to Greenland. Or Alaska. Population problem solved. Before its new inhabitants starve, or freeze to death, whatever happens first.

Posted by: Martina | Jan 8 2025 13:51 utc | 168

I’ll say this again more discreetly. One missile could functionally end the war in Ukraine. Even with the Neo Nazis, it isn’t Hezbollah or Hamas. Put the Rada in full charge and I say the CIA brings Zaluzhny back with an agreement for defacto borders. Get where I’m going?

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 13:55 utc | 169

Fascinating that the Jab Lord’s comments have not been connected with the North American Union ‘conspiracy’ yet.

Posted by: PF | Jan 8 2025 13:58 utc | 170

Why does Trump want Alaska and Greenland…why is no one analyzing this here…it’s just assumed to be megalomania on Trump’s part.
It is the next theater of war between Russia and the USA…
Because they are the only countries in the world that, according to the basic rules, have a claim to sovereign territory in the Arctic. Denmark excluded.
It sounds a bit strange, but the players China, Brazil, India, for example, are out of here, but they will definitely play along, most of them for their own interests but probably ALL against the USA.
Because:
The sovereignty claims made by 7 member states of the Antarctic Treaty (Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, Great Britain, New Zealand and Norway) to parts of Antarctica are left open by the treaty, but “frozen” for the duration of the treaty.
It will be the point of contention for the next 50 years, some countries are laying claim to islands north of the 60th parallel, others to research dating back to the 19th century…every reason is being sought to make claims viable…but it is CERTAIN that Russia and the USA will again resort to war…because resources mean survival, which we can already see in the efforts to destroy Russia…because of the resources. Whoever has them determines where it goes…and according to the criterion of HAVING…the Russians are way ahead here.
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It is about the Arctic…and about the areas (territorial waters) that a country can claim. And the size of these territories depends on the length of the respective national border of the respective country that borders the Arctic.
Which means roughly…above the 60th parallel…NOT below, below are the would-be candidates.
And that is where Russia is ahead…the USA only has the coastline of Alaska to protect…and that is ridiculous compared to Russia.
So it’s all about money, natural resources…it’s “follow the money” again.

Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 13:59 utc | 171

The war is lost – so the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi terrorists are now guns for hire- expect more of this from the failed state of Ukraine.
“Venezuelan authorities have arrested seven foreign mercenaries, including Ukrainians and Americans, who were planning to attack the country’s leadership, President Nicolas Maduro has claimed.
On Tuesday, Maduro said that the group included two Colombian hitmen captured “in different places” as well as “three mercenaries who came from Ukraine, from the war in Ukraine, to bring violence to the country.” Caracas also arrested two “very high level” US citizens, he added, later describing them as “two important mercenaries.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 13:59 utc | 172

“And more claims to arctic resources” To what end? What is the value of resources without people to exploit them? Maybe the US has could pursue a claim on the Moon because they got there first but so what? Yeah, that helium would be valuable. Now, if we just had a city there.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/navy/2024/05/navy-grapples-with-at-sea-shortages-as-recruiting-lags/#:~:text=you%20to%20stay.%E2%80%9D-,Over%20the%20past%20year%2C%20the%20Navy%20has%20had%2C%20on%20average,goal%20by%20about%207%2C000%20sailors.
They can’t even recruit enough sailors. And their icebreaker ships are pathetic compared to what Russia has.
This thing is a sad distraction by a lame duck President while interest rates climb, health care decays and social structure declines. It’s clickbait politics.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 14:04 utc | 173

Greenland
To repeat – is a DIVERSION – to cover the Natzios bare arses as they are forced away from the Great multigeneration repeat failure to ‘Take Russia’ through the millions dead Ukropian folly; The crazed proxy Nazis this time, and equally destroyed as Germany was last time (and is again! – they are resembling the Poles now; they appear to also never learn!)
The resources and whatever of Greenland has ALWAYS been part of the imperialist Anglo Europeans – Danes are just that too.
So it can only be a pantomime ‘takeover’.
Don’t believe it? Let’s see the Danes Cry Wolf! And demand protection!
The Chinese Navy is the most modern, largest and getting daily more powerful – they would send that ‘calvary to the rescue’ and it would come charging Over the artic! With a bunch of Russians icebreakers leading the way… that would be the end of the maritime nato superiority as ukropia is end of the land and air fantasy superiority.
It’s Narratives … that’s the only thing that keeps the Collective Waste from folding like house of cards. Without belief it is mere substanceless faith that keeps it alfloat.
It is only daily more overt fascism that will keep us delusional as golden billion first worlders who are smugly saving the world with our cast iron belief in CC, Covid xx, and petty innefectual ‘environmentism’ because we have 3 different bins now!
Childish, childish nonsense stories.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 8 2025 14:06 utc | 174

No off-topic thread up – German police shot more people in 2024, than any other year since reunification – will this become a worrying trend.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 14:13 utc | 175

DunGroanin. (181).
A counter offer.
“Canada could buy the states of Alaska and Minnesota from America, the premier of the Canadian province of Ontario, Doug Ford, has suggested in response to US President-elect Donald Trump’s calls for a merger between the two countries.
Canada is “the greatest country in the world” and there is no way it will fall under the rule of Washington, Ford told journalists on Monday.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 14:15 utc | 176

Excellent b)
Thinking about this ….
“Ukraine is also losing troops at a rate far beyond what it can sustain and continue fighting. The official casualty estimate of 400,000 killed or wounded is considered a vast undercount. Thousands of exhausted Ukrainian soldiers are deserting the front lines.”
I’m not sure this is the case, regarding Ukrainian soldier’s deserting the front lines. Yes, sure we have heard of these mass desertions but is it really happening?
It is more likely propaganda to hide the true number of the dead and wounded. There is a huge shortfall in the numbers. What better way to hide the true figures by saying they have ran away rather than have been killed or with ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 8 2025 14:17 utc | 177

DunGroanin (181).
Also – apparently Greenland has a plethora of minerals that the US wants.
“US President-elect Donald Trump has said he would not rule out military or economic steps to retake control of the Panama Canal or to acquire the Danish-controlled territory of Greenland.
Asked during a press conference at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday if he could “assure the world” that he would not use “military or economic coercion” in his efforts to acquire either one, Trump said he would not.
“No, I can’t assure you on either of those two. But I can say this, we need them for economic security,”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 14:23 utc | 178

@Karlof1 Entry 113
Regarding Emmanuel Todd’s latest interview, a key point he mentions is that- due to the US absolute lack of reliability in foreign relations – Russia will in no circumstance agree to rely on any US and othern western warranty for its own national security. Consequently his forecast is that Russia will dictate peace terms from the field and take all Russian-speaking régions including Odessa.
Regarding the EU, he stresses that all EU countries’ leaderships have lost any sense of sovereingnty, which means that four the Time, they are unable to free themselves from the US rule.
By the way, whilst his « Defeat of Occident » book was already translated into 22 languages, english is still missing; as hé says « no surprise »
He was unfortunately not asked any question on Canada, Panama, Greenland…

Posted by: Dany | Jan 8 2025 14:25 utc | 179

Look thousands have deserted. Nah, the likelihood is they have been killed or wounded. Use the media to say they have ran away. It’s easier that way to fudge the numbers.
” The U.S. ‘lack of staying power’ is a feature of its democracy. ”
What democracy ?
The US was bought and sold along time ago. Two cheeks of the same arse. Why Trump is an empty suit. A suit that will be filled by a Republican neocon in 2028.
Their imperialist ambitions have had staying power for at the least the last 50 years. Their so called democracy is built on slaughter and conquest. In 2028 it will be businesses as usual.
Those that vote Republican will always vote Republican. Those that vote Democrat will always vote Democrat. The undecided will just stay at home and not bother with the travelling circus as it moves from town to town.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 8 2025 14:29 utc | 180

Neocons and their globalist masters would rather face mutual nuclear annihilation than defeat. I hope I’m wrong but these people have no reverse gear. One trick ponies and no reverse gear.

Posted by: BB753 | Jan 8 2025 14:31 utc | 181

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 8 2025 14:04 utc | 180
The arctic sea ice does not even reach 2 meters thickness in the central arctic basin in winter anymore. And that is almost all first year ice and very weak.

Posted by: Badjoke | Jan 8 2025 14:32 utc | 182

“No, I can’t assure you on either of those two. But I can say this, we need them for economic security,”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 14:23 utc | 185
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Well…
It is proving true that NATO only serves to secure the raw materials of others…
US motto “How can it be that the good Lord has hidden our raw materials in Russia?”
A side effect would of course be… NATO would collapse if it went against its own members.
The day is not far off… when first in the West, in the Western bubble, EVERYONE will fight against everyone else… first and foremost in Europe, poor in raw materials, a Europe that cannot exist without Russian energy, but above all raw materials and grain…
Dependent on the USA means being abandoned… EVERYONE in Europe knows this, but the bought elites are happy to run their countries into ruin… in the hope of finding a place in the states for themselves to survive for themselves and their descendants…
The same applies here as ALWAYS… EVERYONE looks out for themselves.
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Posted by: ossi | Jan 8 2025 14:38 utc | 183

“US President-elect Donald Trump has said he would not rule out military or economic steps to retake control of the Panama Canal or to acquire the Danish-controlled territory of Greenland.”
It is his as per usual bluff and bluster. The art of a deal by a bully.We are going to scare the living daylights out of you to get you around a table and then cut a deal.
Russia and China should be looking towards 2028 and what that will be bring and get ready for it. Be prepared for another neocon on slaught. Keep calling Trump’s bluffs until then.
All they have to to do is call his bluff. He is an empty suit.
His son is there Don Junior to get the right wing think tanks and NCO’s in Greenland to start flooding the media and social media with scare stories and propaganda to get the people of Greenland to accept a deal. The people of Greenland are going to be at the sharp end of a right wing media and advertising blitz campaign in order to shape how they should think about this deal.
He has no intention of sending US troops into Greenland. He wants to bully and scare them to death. To get them around a table.
Call his bluff and no US troops will invade Greenland. He’s an empty suit. He treats everything like a real estate deal when he had the mob and the teamsters on his side.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 8 2025 15:01 utc | 184

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 8 2025 11:53 utc | 157

I would like a link to those

Do a search for “National Archives declassified document” and then navigate to memorandum 1950-07-26 signed by General W. J. Donovan and memorandum 1965-06-11 from State Dpt. European section to R. Marjolin. There are many more of those docs discovered by a researcher of Georgetown University, Joshua Paul.
These docs were released by the USA National Archives and confirm that the USA was working aggressively behind the scenes to push for a united Europe since right after WWII, including efforts to create a European parliament, common currency, central commission, the whole enchilada. They succeeded at the end of the past century and we are now seeing the fruits of these efforts by our American friends.
You have to admire the works of planners in great ol’ USA in those years, at USA’s prime as primus inter pares. Current USA planners are shadows of the shadows of those former planners.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 15:08 utc | 185

Any progress Trump makes in the next 600 days will be completely reversed by the neocons in 2028.
That should be the 100% focus of Russia and China. They have 4 years to prepare for the return of the neocons.
A Republican neocon will be back in charge by Jan 2029. Trump will be a distant memory. Within ten years it will be as if he wasn’t even President at all.
Russia and China must not in any circumstance fall for Trump’s false promises. That will not stand the test of time. The return of the neocons must be their focus. As that is where the danger lurks like a fart in a space suit.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 8 2025 15:18 utc | 186

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 8 2025 3:34 utc | 132 No. Whether this comment comes from stupidity or is merely dishonest is a metaphysical question beyond my power to answer.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 8 2025 16:14 utc | 187

“The day is not far off… when first in the West, in the Western bubble, EVERYONE will fight against everyone else”
Ossi (187).
Once the USA has finished draining as many weaker – and the more vulnerable nations of their assets – it then becomes inevitable to maintain the US way of life – (The American Dream) – that allies with abundant resources will come into Washington’s crosshairs, as Henry Kissinger once said – “Its dangerous to be an enemy of the USA – but its fatal to be its ally.”
You just have to look at the state of the EU’s economy – because it has put US interests ahead of its own citizens.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2025 16:30 utc | 188

Reading some of the analysis about the coming Trump administration, I can understand why the IDF set up unit 9900.

Posted by: Milites | Jan 8 2025 16:31 utc | 189

Reading some of the analysis about the coming Trump administration, I can understand why the IDF set up unit 9900.
Posted by: Milites | Jan 8 2025 16:31 utc | 193
“It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that the thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind it motion”
Yes, a lot of hype on AI, not enough on mentats…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 8 2025 16:50 utc | 190

Russia and the entire rest of the world knows the US is dishonorable in the most literal sense, it does not and will not honor its agreements, all negotiations with the US and its poodle are in bad faith. Looking at it from Russia’s point of view, why would they negotiate with any entity for whom all agreements are mere tissue paper with which to wipe one’s bottom? Or at best only adhered to while in the interest of plotting and scheming for advantage?

Posted by: Andy | Jan 8 2025 17:05 utc | 191

@ Andy | Jan 8 2025 17:05 utc | 195
Negotiating is not a bad thing. Agreeing to something unenforceable, on the other hand, is.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 8 2025 17:11 utc | 192

The war was lost (but did not end) as far back as May 1945 🙂
Hard to blame the US when the Ukrainians themselves forgot…
It’s not called Clown World for nothing :=

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 8 2025 18:16 utc | 193

Well done degree of realism re Ukraine from Trump…even from Z himself that only half the promised monies from USA has not arrived and complains about this “corruption”…well what is for goose is for gander…

Posted by: Jo | Jan 8 2025 18:26 utc | 194

The great John Mearshehimer destroyed the stupid argument that Ukraine should fight on in this recent interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYbgViYxpg

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Jan 8 2025 18:58 utc | 195

@Johan Kaspar | Jan 8 2025 15:08 utc | 189
Thanks for the link, can’t wait to get in to it!

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 8 2025 19:47 utc | 196

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 8 2025 18:21 utc | 103
“Wait, wait, I thought Puerto Rico was supposed to be the 51st state. Or, are they too “brown” to be accepted?”
I believe Puerto Rico already voted against statehood twice, and I don’t think the Inuit of Greenland are white.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 8 2025 21:13 utc | 197

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 8 2025 16:50 utc | 194
The danger with any human activity is that its central purpose can all too easily be subverted by the ego. This then opens the floodgates to the insidious process of confirmation bias, greatly aided by the internet, and cognitive dissonance, again assisted by the compartmentalised viewing habits of many people.
The big fallacy of the idealistic internet ‘netizens’, so prevalent in the late 90’s, who believed that the web would create a highly informed, aware electorate, was that it failed to address the fact that those ‘netizens’, who would be creating and reading content, were humans. The second failure was that they failed to understand how the Cold War practice of social manipulation, honed by both sides of the ideological divide, would simply explode, as those governments now had far more tools, that were more far reaching and effective than before.
The West, with its decades of practising subtle influencing tactics, in advertising, had a head start, but all sides now regularly use the same techniques, making any analysis, solely reliant on internet knowledge, a hazardous procedure. Which is why the Dimaites can sometimes be led up several blind alleys, if they do not approach his, easily accessible, daily synopsis of activities with a degree of healthy scepticism.

Posted by: Milites | Jan 8 2025 21:27 utc | 198

Posted by: Milites | Jan 8 2025 21:27 utc | 202
So the well is poisoned, but it was always so.
May I propose that a proper mentat will have enough general knowledge as a more or less structured BOK that part of the manipulated pieces won’t fit ?
Yes, not enough open info to make proper projections beyond a certain level but still…
BTW the pieces on idf’s 9900 only mentions visual analysis, which is a waste compared with second, third or any N order analysis. But then politicians and even military leaders might not like to know how a win could be catastrophic only because of what be unleashed in decades or centuries with powers going through their usual cycles.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 8 2025 21:58 utc | 199

Ri-i-ight, “We were just following orders!”
There is a saying in Russia: “Everyone was taught to be like this, but why did you strive to be the teacher’s pet”?

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 8 2025 10:33 utc | 151
How much leeway do you think the CIA allows the European nations to deviate from the US pecking order?

Posted by: joey_n | Jan 8 2025 22:18 utc | 200