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January 30, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-020
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I hope Trump does not attempt to end the war in Ukraine because a settlement does not seem possible. Besides it would be interesting to see just how Far west Russia might move its Western borders.. Posted by: snake | Jan 31 2025 17:35 utc | 101 I hope Trump does not attempt to end the war in Ukraine because a settlement does not seem possible. Besides it would be interesting to see just how Far west Russia might move its Western borders.. Posted by: snake | Jan 31 2025 17:35 utc | 102 I’m sure sacrificing thousands of healthy young men to get ‘millions’ of babushkas would demographically help Russia. Posted by: Martay | Jan 31 2025 17:48 utc | 103 Peace Negotiations Posted by: Nobody Special | Jan 31 2025 18:35 utc | 104 The Armed Forces of Ukraine greatly expanded the number of brigades between 2023 and 2024. A decision that led many to question the competence of the General Staff due to the chronic lack of soldiers in the majority of Ukrainian battalions sitting on the contact line. Especially after the debacle of the French-trained 155th Mechanized Brigade. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 18:50 utc | 105 What if… domestic and EU pressure proves too great, and prevents Trump making a deal, and Trump comes home empty handed… Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 19:04 utc | 106 Posted by: Nobody Special | Jan 31 2025 18:35 utc | 105 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 19:09 utc | 107 @ Featherless, §107: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 31 2025 19:11 utc | 108 EU pressure on Trump is, effectively, zero. Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2025 19:36 utc | 109 Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2025 19:36 utc | 110 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 19:41 utc | 110 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 31 2025 2:01 utc | 54 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2025 19:43 utc | 111 There is no way to reverse the decline which will go to its end. Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2025 19:48 utc | 112 @ too scents, §110: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 31 2025 20:28 utc | 113 Russian population decreased in 2024, by the way. Posted by: Ventraille | Jan 31 2025 20:35 utc | 114 So the EU will be left holding the bag? Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2025 20:35 utc | 115 @ Ventraille Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 20:47 utc | 116 New batch of sockpuppet nicknames. Someone’s doing unpaid overtime. My heart goes out to you. Posted by: boneless | Jan 31 2025 20:58 utc | 117 Ventraille | Jan 31 2025 20:35 utc | 115 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 31 2025 21:13 utc | 118 @ YetAnotherAnon Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 21:24 utc | 119 Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 21:24 utc | 120 Posted by: alek_a | Jan 31 2025 21:27 utc | 120 The EU population increase will be the death of those countries, because it’s not organic. Not Europeans having the kids. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 31 2025 21:34 utc | 121 Russia’s demographics were looking bad before the war….and are looking horrible 3 years into the war. They will need to import millions of immigrants to take over jobs vacated by retirements and deaths. Putin destroyed Russia and he won’t live long enough to see it happen. Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 31 2025 21:41 utc | 122 @ alek_a | Jan 31 2025 21:27 utc | 121 Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 22:10 utc | 123 Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 31 2025 21:41 utc | 123 Posted by: Ed4 | Jan 31 2025 23:27 utc | 124 @Ed4 Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 0:44 utc | 125 Posted by: Ed4 | Jan 31 2025 23:27 utc | 125 Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 1 2025 0:48 utc | 126 Dima report: Slowly but surely Ulakly-Konstantinypyil valley is being cleared of AFU. All supply traffic is being disrupted in this narrow strip of AFU controlled villages. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 1 2025 0:57 utc | 127 RUAF is pounding the AFU positions with drones and artillery in Andryivka, which is the north/central neck of the Ulakly cauldron. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 1 2025 1:01 utc | 128 @Nobody Special | Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:35:00 GMT | 105
Russia has one main adversary – the United States. The only (semi) peer competitor that opposes Russia. Without the US there is no NATO, and the EU or Ukraine cannot stand against Russia on their own. Posted by: James M. | Feb 1 2025 1:31 utc | 129 Subjectively it has been an exceptionally warm autumn and winter and in three months it is spring. Earlier if it stays this warm. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 1 2025 2:50 utc | 130 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 31 2025 2:01 utc | 54 Posted by: Newbie | Feb 1 2025 3:05 utc | 131 Apparently the ground isn’t frozen these days, so it’s REALLY muddy. So not much tanks and vehicles moving around, and walking is a great way to lose your boots. Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 3:07 utc | 132 So not much tanks and vehicles moving around, and walking is a great way to lose your boots. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 3:19 utc | 133 General Early-Spring defeating the Fiendish Moskals ! Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 4:08 utc | 134 “Tulsi is potentially a fascist (it’s hard to be an imperialist otherwise) but she’s intelligent and well spoken.” Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 1 2025 5:11 utc | 135 Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 1 2025 5:11 utc | 136 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2025 5:23 utc | 136 Except for the very recent nuclear fuel export ban to US, which will probably take years to have an effect or zero due to large stocks, they continue to sell everything and anything Nato wants, directly on dollars and euros or thru India, currently EU’s largest “partner”. What makes you think RF won’t sell again the day NS is fixed? Posted by: Passerby | Feb 1 2025 5:45 utc | 137 Mark Sleboda Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 6:30 utc | 138 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2025 5:23 utc | 137 Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 8:17 utc | 139 I equate Tulsi’s official stance on Snowden with Trump’s arrogant bluster regarding his Ukraine negotiation : a non-issue. Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 8:22 utc | 140 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 18:50 utc | 106 Posted by: Milites | Feb 1 2025 9:18 utc | 141 Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 6:30 utc | 139 Posted by: Milites | Feb 1 2025 9:41 utc | 142 Zelensky and Putin are in competition to see who can stroke Trump’s ego the hardest. It’s a pathetic look for geopolitics. Posted by: Azimuth | Feb 1 2025 10:08 utc | 143 Russia can’t finance this war for another few years. The russian central bank has interest rates at 21% and is likely to have to increase them again soon. Russia has at most 2025 to ‘win’ this war before its economy collapses. I say ‘win’ because the damage Russia has done to itself reputationally, socially and economically is generational. It’ll be the most pyrrhic of victories if it ever comes. Posted by: Putrid Flow | Feb 1 2025 10:30 utc | 144 Since 2014 we are hearing that russia is going to collapse any day now here in germany. Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 1 2025 11:19 utc | 145 111 european energy Posted by: Jo | Feb 1 2025 11:20 utc | 146 Ahh…the Odessa dreamers are back, bless their hearts. Allergic to maps (don’t even understand the very wide river that is in the way and that neither side has been able to move across it for the last 2 years). Also with no quantitative insights on rate of advance (e.g. unaware of the last two months slowdown NOT acceleration). But somehow saying Russians will “keep going”, whatever that means, to Odessa. Let me know in 50 years when it’s done. Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 1 2025 11:27 utc | 147 Russia has lost the war a long time ago. Trump will help Putin to save face. Posted by: cobrakai | Feb 1 2025 11:35 utc | 148 Thought it was all quiet on the ISR front, but a P8 Poseidon from Lossiemouth is just off Kaliningrad. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 1 2025 12:18 utc | 149 While I’m no expert (not even close) on India politics or socioeconomics, what I do know is that Hindu extremists idolize Zionists, hate and want to eradicate Islam, and have no troubles with the full integration of state capitalist power to ensure the perpetuation of a quasi-caste and religio-supremacist system, in India and whatever territories they feel entitled to own at least. Posted by: HB_Norica | Feb 1 2025 13:07 utc | 150
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/02/01/an-employee-of-the-shopping-mall-accompanying-the-mobilized-was-killed-in-ukrainian-piryatin (with [Edits.]) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 13:20 utc | 151 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 19:41 utc | 111 Posted by: Mario | Feb 1 2025 13:50 utc | 152 Israel Sends Missiles To Ukraine – Axios Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 14:36 utc | 153 Going Underground Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 14:48 utc | 154 Going Underground: Max Blumenthal (url corrected) Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 14:54 utc | 155 Try this instead: Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 15:08 utc | 156 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang ( Feb 1 2025 13:20 utc | 152 ): Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 1 2025 15:24 utc | 157 Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 14:36 utc | 154 Posted by: Milites | Feb 1 2025 15:26 utc | 158 Anonymous // 148 Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 1 2025 15:41 utc | 159 Posted by: Mario | Feb 1 2025 13:50 utc | 153 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2025 16:07 utc | 160 Russia can’t finance this war for another few years. The russian central bank has interest rates at 21% and is likely to have to increase them again soon. Russia has at most 2025 to ‘win’ this war before its economy collapses. I say ‘win’ because the damage Russia has done to itself reputationally, socially and economically is generational. It’ll be the most pyrrhic of victories if it ever comes. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2025 16:10 utc | 161
Posted by: Nobody Special | Feb 1 2025 15:41 utc | 160 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 16:28 utc | 162 Still no ATACMS/Stormshadow attacks recorded by both sides since mid-Jan. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 17:38 utc | 163 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 16:28 utc | 163 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 1 2025 17:51 utc | 164 Jeremy_R.L.@1628 Feb the 1st Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 1 2025 17:54 utc | 165 @ YetAnotherAnon | Feb 1 2025 17:51 utc | 165 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 18:02 utc | 166 A shooting and an explosion on the same day: perhaps Russia doesn’t need to capture a whole lot of km² after all, the Ukrainian people might well do it for them… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 18:11 utc | 167
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 1 2025 17:54 utc | 166 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 18:17 utc | 168
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 18:11 utc | 168 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 18:39 utc | 169 The definition of treason is aiding and abetting the enemy. Edward Snowden gave information to the American people. Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 1 2025 18:42 utc | 170 There’s a whole lot bubbling underneath that the likes of @Anonymous, @Julian, @Ed4, @Micron and company either don’t know about or deliberately ignore. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 19:14 utc | 171 Napoleon? Let him in and drain his army. Hitler? Let him in and drain his army. Zelensky? Let him in and drain his army. Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 1 2025 19:19 utc | 172 Shame on Tulsi for kowtowing to the enemies of Americans by repeating ad nauseum “He broke the law”. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 19:21 utc | 173 I think I’m seeing a pattern here. And it seems to work. 58K Ukr soldiers gone? Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 19:23 utc | 174 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 19:14 utc | 172 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2025 19:43 utc | 175 That should be a lot of fun later. Ukrainian Nazis think that Poles are untermesch. Then the Poles can get in on the de-Nazification game. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 19:58 utc | 176 reply to 174 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 1 2025 20:08 utc | 177 Azov types will quickly move from the predator to the prey category once the Ukrainian government collapses Syrian-style. Posted by: rk | Feb 1 2025 20:39 utc | 178 Signing out for tonight with a gripe: my Postcards From Yuzhmash business venture is still on hold… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 1 2025 21:00 utc | 179 Don’t think so, there’s no Ukr gov. And most of the original azovs died since Mariupol days. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 1 2025 21:15 utc | 180 @ HB_Norica | Feb 1 2025 13:07 utc | 151 Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 22:13 utc | 181 @ HB Norica Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2025 22:19 utc | 182 I’ll concede it’s a bit immature to reference Star Trek, but I intermittently consider the possibility that Ukraine will end up like the Orion Syndicate. Once a mighty force, it lost some major battles and the organization devolved into being just a crime syndicate. They became pirates, and even flesh peddlers.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 1 2025 23:02 utc | 183 Gulfstream G500 from Billund in Demnark heading for the Black Sea. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 1 2025 23:21 utc | 184 reply to 181 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 2 2025 0:15 utc | 185 Peace negotiations? In Venezuela? If he pulls it off they’ll call him Trump the Water Walker….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 2 2025 0:47 utc | 186 Babel 17@2302 Feb 1 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2025 2:01 utc | 187 Pretty sure this is one of Julian’s distant Nazi relatives. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 2:39 utc | 188 It’s as if every empire, before going down the drain, makes one last attempt to take Russia. Perhaps because a business case can be made that the cost of war with Russia is less than the spoils of war from Russia. They get more than they bargained for. Posted by: Passerby | Feb 2 2025 8:28 utc | 189 Looks like Ukrainian gas and energy processing or storage facilities in Myrhorod/Poltava are in flames after morning strikes, released by NASA satellite photos. During Biden, NASA censored sat pictures from Ukraine, by the way. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2025 9:07 utc | 190 Col. Daniel Davis and JohnMearsheimer talked with each other on Daniel Davis’ YouTube channel about the situation in the Ukraine. Posted by: WMG | Feb 2 2025 11:31 utc | 191 Hello, lots of hope and speculation here and everywhere. My view: there will be an Istanbul II and a Minsk II. The Russian elites can go on vacation in the West again and do business with their Western partners. In 10 years, it will start again. Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 2 2025 11:42 utc | 192 Posted by: guest from franconia | Feb 2 2025 11:42 utc | 192 Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 2 2025 12:12 utc | 193
https://x.com/AlternatNews/status/1886023911453622363 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2025 12:34 utc | 194 Geran strike on diesel fuel depot south of Sumy. 3000 tons of diesel fuel destroyed. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2025 12:42 utc | 195 Geran strike on diesel fuel depot south of Sumy. 3000 tons of diesel fuel destroyed. Posted by: Newbie | Feb 2 2025 12:59 utc | 196 Dima’s latest video posits that a bunch of gas facilities are in massive flames near Poltava. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 2 2025 13:41 utc | 197 https://www.flightradar24.com/38f8b483 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 2 2025 13:50 utc | 198 |
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