News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
|
|
|
|
Back to Main
|
||
|
January 30, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-020
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
Comments
Going home. Foreign mercenaries began to disappear en masse from the Armed Forces of Ukraine Posted by: berthold | Jan 30 2025 16:45 utc | 1 Posted by: berthold | Jan 30 2025 16:45 utc | 1 Posted by: alek_a | Jan 30 2025 16:51 utc | 2 The Pokrovsk front has been a Russian goal for over six months. Here is the latest from Pravda, “the risk of Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad being encircled.” Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 30 2025 16:59 utc | 3 There is very little lower on the moral ladder than a mercenary. Killing people for money… Posted by: berthold | Jan 30 2025 17:04 utc | 4 The Pokrovsk front has been a Russian goal for over six months. Here is the latest from Pravda, “the risk of Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad being encircled.” Posted by: berthold | Jan 30 2025 17:08 utc | 5 Tulsi is potentially a fascist (it’s hard to be an imperialist otherwise) but she’s intelligent and well spoken. I’ve got the popcorn out for these two confirmation hearings. I noticed she both confirmed she would have prosecuted Snowden and that he revealed ‘illegal actions of the government’…its all.more than a bit contradictory. But hearing Jake the Snakes famous ‘Al Qaeda on our side’ quoted in a confirmation hearing where minutes are being taken? Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 30 2025 17:15 utc | 6 She also – correctly – called out the Syrian diverse and inclusive headchoppers as being Islamic extremists dismantling Syrias civil society. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 30 2025 17:18 utc | 7 It is very interesting to read that link, the Ukrainian Pravda reports on the war much more honestly than the clowns at Business Insider, Forbes, and Newsweek. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 30 2025 17:34 utc | 8
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 30 2025 17:50 utc | 9 @ Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 30 2025 17:15 utc | 6
Her relative youth compared to the gerontocrats in Congress probably makes that seem a lot more real than it is. Actually, I don’t know if I want smart imperialists and fascists in charge. Give me the dumb fucks. Easier to cope with their bullshit if I know they’re intellectually in addition to morally retarded. Posted by: fnord | Jan 30 2025 17:54 utc | 10
Indeed….. Posted by: saner | Jan 30 2025 17:57 utc | 11 Inspired and inspirational: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 30 2025 18:16 utc | 12 Financial figures swirling around in Ukraine are extremely foggy, to say the least, so make of this what you will:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1738225047-stalo-vidomo-u-skilki-ukrayini-obhoditsya-odin-den-viyni (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 30 2025 18:26 utc | 13 Meanwhile, back at the ‘new weapons dept.’: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 30 2025 18:30 utc | 14 When this carnage of Slavs finishes. Posted by: jpc | Jan 30 2025 18:50 utc | 15 Is something afoot? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 30 2025 19:18 utc | 16 In any normal war it is the youngsters who are conscripted to serve as cannon fodder, but in this war Ukraine is sparing the youngsters and is instead sending the old timers in as cannon fodder. Why spare the youngsters I wonder? Will the youngsters with no sense of history and no elder men to tell them their history just be janissaries for what the West intends next? Russia better not make peace too soon, but with Putin you never know. Posted by: gT | Jan 30 2025 19:37 utc | 17 Interesting pov. Posted by: Suresh | Jan 30 2025 19:44 utc | 18 CrossTalk: Conflicting Visions Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 30 2025 20:20 utc | 19 https://t.me/argumentum_a_priori/18721 Posted by: Arioch | Jan 30 2025 20:34 utc | 20 gT | Jan 30 2025 19:37 utc | 17 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 30 2025 20:38 utc | 21 berthold @ 1 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 30 2025 20:51 utc | 22 Evidence That US Financed Neo-Nazis in Ukraine Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 30 2025 20:55 utc | 23
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics Posted by: xor | Jan 30 2025 21:24 utc | 24 re: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 30 2025 18:26 utc | 13 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 30 2025 21:34 utc | 25 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 30 2025 21:34 utc | 25 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 30 2025 21:44 utc | 26 Acutally, I should have said that the $61 billion figure is misleading. That supposedly accounts for all the direct military aid. But it pales in comparison with the total “aid” sent to Ukraine. Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 30 2025 21:49 utc | 27 Mercs leaving? That’s a sign that the money spigot’s really been shut off. This may be over sooner than even the most “optimistic” of us thought. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 30 2025 21:49 utc | 28 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 30 2025 21:34 utc | 25 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 30 2025 22:12 utc | 29 No ATACMS strikes against Russia recorded since the 14th Jan, Ukraine are relying on drones instead. Either due to: Posted by: Milites | Jan 30 2025 22:12 utc | 30 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 30 2025 20:51 utc | 22 Posted by: Milites | Jan 30 2025 22:16 utc | 31 US assistance suspended/removed Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 30 2025 22:23 utc | 32 Trump’s Ukraine Trap EXPOSED: Why Russia Won’t Fall for It w/ Brian Berletic Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 30 2025 22:29 utc | 33 One thing never explained is how $ and € are actually used to fund anything day to day in ukropia. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 30 2025 22:34 utc | 34 Trump’s Ukraine Trap EXPOSED: Why Russia Won’t Fall for It w/ Brian Berletic Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 30 2025 22:34 utc | 35 Posted by: Milites | Jan 30 2025 22:12 utc | 30 “No ATACMS strikes against Russia recorded since the 14th Jan, Ukraine are relying on drones instead. Either due to:” Posted by: Ed4 | Jan 30 2025 22:36 utc | 36 @27 Posted by: paddy | Jan 30 2025 22:37 utc | 37 Really slow day yesterday, for the AFU it must be unnerving, they know RF could easily be imposing 3X 4.500 casualties, within past performance, or even 4x or more. What is RF reserving for? Posted by: Newbie | Jan 30 2025 22:38 utc | 38 No ATACMS strikes against Russia recorded since the 14th Jan, Ukraine are relying on drones instead. Either due to: Posted by: Newbie | Jan 30 2025 22:43 utc | 39 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 30 2025 22:38 utc | 38 Posted by: Milites | Jan 30 2025 22:49 utc | 40 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 30 2025 22:34 utc | 35 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 30 2025 22:50 utc | 41 I love the depth of Brian’s research into the American NGO complexes. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 30 2025 22:56 utc | 42 Daily DS map update: Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 30 2025 22:58 utc | 43 Re mercenaries. Am intrigued by Australian govts concern over a merc, Oscar Jenkins. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 30 2025 23:02 utc | 44 Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 30 2025 22:58 utc | 43 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 30 2025 23:07 utc | 45 Russian Assault on Konstantinopol Begins Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 31 2025 0:01 utc | 46 Russian Assault on Konstantinopol Begins Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 31 2025 0:01 utc | 47
C’mon, everyone has to earn his keep. Posted by: Rutte | Jan 31 2025 0:01 utc | 48 “Yes, they are losing every day, but look, how beautifully slow!” Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 31 2025 0:13 utc | 49 The clip mentioned before, “Trump’s Ukraine Trap EXPOSED: Why Russia Won’t Fall for It w/ Brian Berletic,” is from Haiphong’s channel and much of the talking is done by Haiphong rather than Berletic. It is worth watching, but for those who are not familiar with Berlectic, I recommend his YouTube channel, The New Atlas. Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 31 2025 0:33 utc | 50 Trump’s declared peace plan is cover for his real one, to step in after the AFU is crushed and Zelenskyy is begging for a lifeline for himself. Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 31 2025 1:16 utc | 51 Going home. Foreign mercenaries began to disappear en masse from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Posted by: Naive | Jan 31 2025 1:27 utc | 52 Babel-17@50…Trump Towers Odessa…..it does have a peaceful ring to it….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 31 2025 1:43 utc | 53 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 30 2025 22:38 utc | 38 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 31 2025 2:01 utc | 54 Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 30 2025 22:58 utc | 43 Posted by: Suresh | Jan 31 2025 2:31 utc | 55 What everybody in the bar must realize is that when Trump publicly says things to Putin or Russia, he is speaking to the west not Russia. Nobody negotiates in public especially the guy who wrote the book. Trumps biggest hurdle is to comfort the Europeans while what is de facto on the field continues. Trump is letting Putin finish. Posted by: thomas j cahill | Jan 31 2025 3:27 utc | 56 BTW, Brian Berletic’s new fears are a little exaggerated. He doesn’t know quite what to make of a non-parliamentary type of President. Take notes. Posted by: thomas j cahill | Jan 31 2025 3:33 utc | 57
Yeah, right. After it backfires you can also say it had been just a joke. Posted by: Rutte | Jan 31 2025 4:05 utc | 58 Tulsi is potentially a fascist (it’s hard to be an imperialist otherwise) but she’s intelligent and well spoken Posted by: Screwdriver | Jan 31 2025 4:44 utc | 59 Newbie@201 Jan 31 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 31 2025 5:12 utc | 60 Babel17@116 Jan 31 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 31 2025 5:28 utc | 61 re: Screwdriver | Jan 31 2025 4:44 utc | 58 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 31 2025 5:50 utc | 62 Trump tower in Odessa, with a view on the Black Sea, cool AF. Posted by: Featherless | Jan 31 2025 6:02 utc | 63 https://t.me/argumentum_a_priori/18721 Posted by: berthold | Jan 31 2025 7:23 utc | 64 Not just the foreigners deserting: Posted by: KingCobra | Jan 31 2025 8:53 utc | 65 If you think Tulsi is a fascist then you ARE one of the dumb fucks. Posted by: Just a Voice | Jan 31 2025 9:07 utc | 66 From Joe Caligula Biden, Donald Nero Trump … and Tulsi … to London Posted by: Simon | Jan 31 2025 9:35 utc | 67 “EU debates return to Russian gas as part of Ukraine peace deal” (ft, paywall) but also tass, moscowtimes and oilprice.com.
Translated: EU to Russia: Stop winning the war in Ukraine, and in return I’ll generously allow you to sell me gas, cheap. Posted by: Passerby | Jan 31 2025 10:01 utc | 68 Translated: EU to Russia: Stop winning the war in Ukraine, and in return I’ll generously allow you to sell me gas, cheap. Posted by: rk | Jan 31 2025 10:39 utc | 69 Ukraine Weekly Update, 31st January 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-786 Posted by: The Busker | Jan 31 2025 10:58 utc | 70 Posted by: Milites | Jan 30 2025 22:12 utc | 30 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 11:15 utc | 71 Looks like the Kurakhove-Ulakly-Konstaninypyil valley is being cleaned up. The AFU positions in the valley are crumbling from all sides. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 11:19 utc | 72 KingCobra | Jan 31 2025 8:53 utc | 65 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 31 2025 11:24 utc | 73 Looks like EU efforts to step in to replace US as a superior military hardware producer continue suffering setbacks.
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 11:26 utc | 74 rk | Jan 31 2025 10:39 utc | 69 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 31 2025 11:26 utc | 75 Many thanks to the Busker for his weekly updates. Essential Friday reading. Posted by: Truthsayer | Jan 31 2025 11:54 utc | 76 Posted by: The Busker | Jan 31 2025 10:58 utc | 70 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 31 2025 12:00 utc | 77 Posted by: Truthsayer | Jan 31 2025 11:54 utc | 76 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 31 2025 12:42 utc | 78 Willy OAM has a JAN pace calculation, from DS. (He is a day early, being in Oz.) Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 31 2025 12:43 utc | 79 There was a report US ATACMS operators in Ukraine or other people associated in providing targeting or launching in Ukraine war have been either suspended or arrested in the US. So maybe US removed the possibilities for Ukraine to use ATACMS. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 31 2025 12:43 utc | 80 72, unimp. Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 31 2025 12:46 utc | 81 Hadn’t realised until a few days agp that it’s actually been very mild and wet at the front which could be an explanation for slow progress. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 31 2025 13:15 utc | 82 Romanians are reminding us how Stalin annexed parts of Romania, given to Ukrainian SSR, but which Ukraine has never returned to Romania after its independence. Will the Ukrainian occupation force will eventually be removed from foreign country territories at the conclusion of SMO?
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 13:22 utc | 83 Western Pundits told us years ago Russian economy will be over in 3 month and VVP out even before that. Nearly 4 Years later, they are starting to realize they were the one with a limited capacity to deal with sanctions and that a lot of them have already being put out of affairs by now. Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 31 2025 13:51 utc | 84 Ukrainian Fighter Confesses Troops Raped and Tortured Russian Civilians (Graphic Video) Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 31 2025 14:03 utc | 85 Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 31 2025 13:51 utc | 84 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 31 2025 14:21 utc | 86 Tulsi is potentially a fascist Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 31 2025 14:23 utc | 87 An important DS update today. Russians are still advancing. Shocking. Posted by: boneless | Jan 31 2025 14:49 utc | 88 The Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine – their top spy could be in big trouble. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 31 2025 14:51 utc | 89 The reason the Russians haven’t been moving along the front is because there is currently a “January thaw” in Ukraine turning everything but pavement to greasy gumbo. Temperatures have reached 20 C in recent days. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 31 2025 14:58 utc | 90 From telegram channel Intel Slava, https://t.me/s/intelslava the EU won’t like this: Posted by: ctiger | Jan 31 2025 15:00 utc | 91 As soon as France completes its first icebreaker, the soldiers deployed in Africa will be able to go to Greenland. A call for tenders for warmer outfits has yet to be finalised. Posted by: UnCopEra | Jan 31 2025 15:08 utc | 92 Okay some will say that this Neo-Nazi confessed under duress – and ergo his confession cannot be trusted, however their is enough evidence out their to show that the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi’s have committed war crimes. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 31 2025 15:14 utc | 93 Trump’s “Lightning plan”… Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 31 2025 15:27 utc | 94 If the Russians can’t get a deal, I think they should de-populate and de-industrialize the western part of the country. Not by occupation, that would produce too strong a condemnation, but by damage to the civilian infrastructure that continues to such an extent that just about everybody leaves. If someday a population exists that is willing to sue for peace, then it ends. You got to do what you got to do. Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 31 2025 15:29 utc | 95 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang, §9: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 31 2025 16:03 utc | 96 Russia’s demographics were looking bad before the war….and are looking horrible 3 years into the war. They will need to import millions of immigrants to take over jobs vacated by retirements and deaths. Putin destroyed Russia and he won’t live long enough to see it happen. Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jan 31 2025 16:39 utc | 97 Ending this war, even on Russia´s terms, will be a victory for Trump because he ended the war. Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 31 2025 16:56 utc | 98 Posted by: Truthsayer | Jan 31 2025 11:54 utc | 76 Posted by: The Busker | Jan 31 2025 17:10 utc | 99 Cager@1554 Jan 31 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 31 2025 17:24 utc | 100 |
||