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January 12, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-008
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Nothing NEW you with the new agent provocateur anti-russian and supporter of the ukronazis. Posted by: Naive | Jan 13 2025 2:02 utc | 101 TOTILA, great insight on Putin/Trump similarities. Posted by: Naive | Jan 13 2025 2:08 utc | 102 The shovels win. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 2:10 utc | 103 The shovels win. Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 13 2025 2:22 utc | 104
Sounds like a progressive president to me. Posted by: Rutte | Jan 13 2025 2:25 utc | 105 Posted by: Rutte | Jan 13 2025 2:25 utc | 105 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 13 2025 2:39 utc | 106 Sounds like a progressive president to me. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 2:40 utc | 107 “Many Americans identify as Progressive without knowing the history in America behind that term.” Posted by: Drifter | Jan 13 2025 3:18 utc | 108 To the military passport question: Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 13 2025 3:32 utc | 109 Just because something is moving in a particular direction, that doesn’t actually signify improvement. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 13 2025 4:06 utc | 110 Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 12 2025 17:39 utc | 21 Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 13 2025 5:28 utc | 111 @ Seward | Jan 12 2025 16:11 utc | 13 Posted by: Moscow Exile | Jan 13 2025 6:38 utc | 112 Is it normal for active-duty front line soldiers to carry passports? Posted by: Moscow Exile | Jan 13 2025 6:50 utc | 113 Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 12 2025 23:50 utc | 83 Posted by: scc | Jan 13 2025 7:11 utc | 114 The Russian “Military Ticket” [ВОЕННЫЙ БИЛЕТ] is a military ID, that’s all. However, my son cannot leave Russia unless he shows his “military ticket” at the point of exit. He also cannot be employed unless he shows his employer his “ticket”. He can leave Russia whenever he wants to, as he has a valid Russian international passport and a British passport, but should he wish to leave Russia, they would demand to see his Military Ticket in order to see his classification as regards his suitability for military service, and I presume, having checked his “ticket” at border control and determined that he is not likely to be called up for military service, they would let him leave. As I have already said, my son has been liable for military service now for 3 years, but since he got his ticket, he has heard nothing from the local draft board. If he were called up, he would only be obliged to do one year’s basic training: he would not be sent to the SMO zone, unless, of course, he volunteered to serve there. His classmate and friend, who is our neighbour, got his “ticket” at the same time as my son received his, but my son’s classmate was conscripted, unlike my son. My son’s friend is single. My son had only been married for a couple of months when he got his “ticket”. However, my son’s marital status does not prevent him from being called up. He can still be called up. He would only be exempted from conscription if he had at least two children or if he had to support elderly or infirm next-of-kin. Posted by: Moscow Exile | Jan 13 2025 7:21 utc | 115 Posted by: Drifter | Jan 12 2025 20:58 utc | 50
Good point about nation versus country, but Trumpers may reply that Canada has people that already are very much americanized, Greenland is virtually empty, and the push to LatAm is just to own the Panama canal, not Panamanian people, which will never be Americans. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 8:38 utc | 116 Never been in Russian military, so how is “смирно!” shouted as a drill command? The stress is grammatically on the first syllable, but like in ” aat ten SHUN!” would require a different stressing. Posted by: Catilina | Jan 13 2025 9:11 utc | 117 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 8:38 utc | 118 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 10:28 utc | 118 “internally quarrelsome independent states” – I should have said Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 10:37 utc | 119 “I will tell why the idea of annexing Canada and Greenland to the USA is a good idea. Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 12 2025 23:47 utc | 82 Posted by: Joseph Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 10:40 utc | 121 Posted by: Joseph Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 10:40 utc | 124 Historian Taril Cyril Amar, wrapping up the North Stream cover up saga in an article on the RT website Posted by: grunzt | Jan 13 2025 11:10 utc | 123 That’s what worries me about sites like MoA. You get posters who may have coherent and sensible views on The Ukraine, Gaza, etc. But then they come out with sh*** about global warming being ‘unexplained’. It has been explained, clearly, thoroughly and extensively and all scientists who have not been bought and paid for by the oil and gas industries (and others with similar interests). The clarity regarding western thuggery seemingly does not extend to western fuel businesses. PT Barnum was right. Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 11:15 utc | 124 That’s what worries me about sites like MoA. You get posters who may have coherent and sensible views on The Ukraine, Gaza, etc. But then they come out with sh*** about global warming being ‘unexplained’. It has been explained, clearly, thoroughly and extensively and all scientists who have not been bought and paid for by the oil and gas industries (and others with similar interests) agree on this . The clarity regarding western thuggery seemingly does not extend to western fuel businesses. PT Barnum was right. Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 11:16 utc | 125 Never been in Russian military, so how is “смирно!” shouted as a drill command? The stress is grammatically on the first syllable, but like in ” aat ten SHUN!” would require a different stressing. Posted by: Moscow Exile | Jan 13 2025 11:55 utc | 126 @Joseph Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 10:40 utc | 124 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jan 13 2025 11:58 utc | 127 @ ossi, §119: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 13 2025 12:19 utc | 128 However human-caused GW continues without cessation no matter how many unfounded claims the skeptics bring up. Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 13 2025 12:30 utc | 129 After indulging for almost 3 years in reports of warfare in Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 13 2025 13:21 utc | 130 In short, Russia’s total war costs far exceed what official budget expenditures would suggest. The state is stealthily funding around half these costs off budget with substantial amounts of debt by compelling banks to extend credit on “off-market” (non-commercial) terms to businesses providing goods and services for the war. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 13 2025 13:30 utc | 131 On the Canada joining/being forced to join the US think. That was attempted before. Very very rarely does anyone talking about mention that. Those that are pushing it even say it will become the 51st state, when it is 10 states and some territories. I have some doubt that they can even find it on a map. Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 13 2025 13:30 utc | 132
It seems i was just confused, here is the link: Posted by: HEL | Jan 13 2025 13:43 utc | 133 New RT headline: Posted by: malenkov | Jan 13 2025 14:05 utc | 135 Kurakhove DISPUTED: Ukraine’s Disturbing Response To Its Casualties Posted by: unimperator | Jan 13 2025 14:08 utc | 136 Trumpers don’t want Canada. That whole mess is an elaborate troll. Canada is full of progressive idiots. We have enough of that rot already. Alberta is the only province that would be a fit. As for Greenland, well, there aren’t any people in Greenland. Its entire population is small town. Mexico? Please, no one wants Mexico. Mexico has been a failed state from the beginning. The time for taking Mexico was 1848. Not now, not ever. Though, you might see an occupied buffer zone on the Mexican side of the border. Posted by: Totila | Jan 13 2025 14:09 utc | 137 People keep forgetting (assuming they ever knew it at all) that if the USA absorbed Canada, Greenland, or wherever, they would be TERRITORIES — colonies, if you will — of the USA until such time as Congress voted to admit them, wholly or in parts, as states. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 13 2025 14:19 utc | 138 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 13 2025 13:21 utc | 135 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 13 2025 14:20 utc | 139 Posted by: Craig Kennedy | Jan 12 2025 21:56 utc | 62 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 14:24 utc | 140 West Germany incorporated East Germany in a matter of days. Why wouldn’t the US incorporate Canada? Posted by: Nick | Jan 13 2025 14:26 utc | 141 Posted by: canuck | Jan 13 2025 10:45 utc | 125 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 14:30 utc | 142 Posted by: bingo | Jan 12 2025 22:56 utc | 74 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 14:31 utc | 143 I will tell why the idea of annexing Canada and Greenland to the USA is a good idea. Posted by: Original Newbie | Jan 13 2025 14:36 utc | 144
Over the millenia the climate has changed radically many times all without any influence from mankind. Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Jan 13 2025 14:44 utc | 145 Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 13 2025 2:00 utc | 99 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 14:46 utc | 146 @Johan Kaspar Posted by: Totila | Jan 13 2025 14:48 utc | 147 Posted by: Naive | Jan 13 2025 1:58 utc | 98 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 14:52 utc | 148 What so many fail to realize is that Trump is an American Putin. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:57 utc | 149 Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Jan 13 2025 14:44 utc | 154 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 15:08 utc | 150 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:57 utc | 158 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 15:13 utc | 151
I share that view. Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 13 2025 15:15 utc | 152 Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Jan 13 2025 14:44 utc | 154 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 15:28 utc | 153 Along with a variation in solar activity, cloud cover makes a really big difference in the amount of warmth the earth retains. Even a small change in the amount of cloud cover will make a big difference in the mean temperature at the surface. Meanwhile we don’t really have a good model for predicting how cloudy the atmosphere will be. Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 13 2025 15:29 utc | 154 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 13 2025 8:38 utc | 118 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 155 For you climate change denier people, just in case you (almost certainly) have never heard it, is the quote from PT Barnum that I referred to earlier: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 15:40 utc | 156 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 165 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 15:43 utc | 157 Jams O’Donnell –Who must suffer under the lasivious thumb of the Thiel Plantation?; Who in the Koch Planation? ; who will suffer the Zuckerberg Plantation? The worst people will prosper in such a plan. [It’s been tried: C.f.,Elizabeth Tudor, queen of England, 1558-1603.] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< A new collection of internally quarrelsome [independent] states - five, six even seven maybe, on the previous US territory would be ideal. Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Jan 13 2025 10:28 utc | 121 Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jan 13 2025 15:57 utc | 158 Posted by: ossi | Jan 13 2025 14:26 utc | 147 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 13 2025 16:03 utc | 159 Posted by: ossi | Jan 13 2025 15:48 utc | 168 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 16:12 utc | 160 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 165 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 13 2025 16:13 utc | 161 Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jan 13 2025 15:57 utc | 169 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 16:20 utc | 162 And if others don’t do it, we’ll be the first. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 13 2025 16:21 utc | 163 Posted by: Totila | Jan 12 2025 15:24 utc | 3 Posted by: scc | Jan 13 2025 16:24 utc | 164 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 165 Posted by: scc | Jan 13 2025 16:32 utc | 165 All talk of Greenland,Canada and rest to soften the Ukraine debacle which is increasingly becoming difficult to hide?
sigh, Ossi… Posted by: jure | Jan 13 2025 16:52 utc | 167
And there was a cyber attack to Slovak Real Estate Cadastre. Appr. in the same time as another attack to Russian cadastre/or it’s equivalent, if I understand it correctly. Posted by: Jergus Lapin | Jan 13 2025 16:52 utc | 168 “ The beauty of progressives is that not only do they have inane policies but that they’re inevitably forced to double-down on them thus making everything “progressively” worse” Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 13 2025 16:56 utc | 169 I cannot supply this, Jams, I only know the grief of the past. Perh. you’re right, but virtually all of the Birchers and Fellow Travelers that I know [lots], prefer ***something similar*** to what you propose, and I am myself too reactionary on this particular subject ( the subject of your previous post ), to continue in a righteous conversation! With respect… Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jan 13 2025 16:58 utc | 170 Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jan 13 2025 16:58 utc | 184 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 17:13 utc | 171 @ Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 13 2025 16:56 utc | 183 Posted by: fnord | Jan 13 2025 17:24 utc | 172 Weeb Union: Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 13 2025 17:30 utc | 173 Posted by: fnord | Jan 13 2025 17:24 utc | 187 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 17:37 utc | 174 “ The beauty of progressives is that not only do they have inane policies but that they’re inevitably forced to double-down on them thus making everything “progressively” worse” Well, now the phony “climate change” is showing up on MOA. As they say, support is universal among those scientists whose income depends upon the CC grift. Meanwhile, the CC-preaching progressive uber-rich own all the beachfront real estate and live the most carbon unfriendly lifestyles full of multiple monstrous residences plus fleets of vehicles, private jets and hyperyachts. As always, their actions speak far louder than their immensely hypocritical words. If you don’t have these things and are not profiting from the CC grift then you are a useful idiot. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 18:05 utc | 176 By the above leap of logic, bible thumper George W Bush is a progressive” Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 18:06 utc | 177 And I must admit that I voted for him. Oh well–hindsight. Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 18:32 utc | 178 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 18:05 utc | 191 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 18:33 utc | 179 It depends on what you mean by progressive. He’s not FDR, but he did sacrifice our Constitutional freedoms for the Patriot Act, he supports a New World Order (rule by the Davos crowd?), and he referred to Trump’s nationalism as “weird shit.” Not necessarily “progressive” but he definitely has a 1984 Orwellian feel. Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 18:37 utc | 180 Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 13 2025 12:30 utc | 134 Posted by: Naive | Jan 13 2025 18:42 utc | 181 I can’t understand your post until you clarify what ‘CC’ stands for. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 18:48 utc | 182 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 13 2025 17:30 utc | 188 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 13 2025 18:52 utc | 183 Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 13 2025 15:29 utc | 163 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 19:27 utc | 184 Posted by: canuck | Jan 13 2025 18:02 utc | 190 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 19:31 utc | 185 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 19:27 utc | 199 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 19:38 utc | 186 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 13 2025 16:03 utc | 170 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 19:39 utc | 187 Deniers think just the way that big oil etc. want them to think… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 19:44 utc | 188 Kiev’s begging for another Oreshnik strike continues.
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Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jan 13 2025 19:48 utc | 189 Toretsk has been completely captured, according to Weeb Union. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 13 2025 20:07 utc | 190 @ Paranaense, §202: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 13 2025 20:09 utc | 191 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 19:44 utc | 203 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 20:09 utc | 192 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 13 2025 20:07 utc | 205 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 20:11 utc | 193 @ Jams O´Donnell, §207: Posted by: John Marks | Jan 13 2025 20:23 utc | 194 Posted by: John Marks | Jan 13 2025 20:23 utc | 209 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 20:31 utc | 195 Posted by: John Marks | Jan 13 2025 20:09 utc | 206 Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 13 2025 20:54 utc | 196 https://strategic-culture.su/news/2025/01/13/trump-iran-and-the-obama-strategic-blueprint/ Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 13 2025 20:56 utc | 197 Russian authorities are still struggling to contain a fire near the Kazakhstan border, which broke out following the latest Ukrainian attack on the country’s energy infrastructure. Posted by: Louis | Jan 13 2025 20:57 utc | 198 So what is your quibble? Answers on a postcard. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 21:04 utc | 199 According to Ukraine’s General Staff… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 13 2025 21:05 utc | 200 |
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