An acceptable truce and enough guarantees so RF can stop…
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 6 2025 0:21 utc | 167
Putin and Lavrov said several times: “We need final legal agreements that will fix all the conditions for ensuring the security of Russia and the legitimate security interests of our neighbors, but in a context that will secure the impossibility of violating these agreements in an international legal manner.”
While this requirement “in a context that will secure the impossibility of violating these agreements” is exactly what is almost impossible for the USA (and the West as a whole) to fulfill.

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 2:14 utc | 204

@tom 2
Evidence that Putin has been a disaster for Russia being too much loving of pirate Anglo parasites.
V”Putin says the conflict in Ukraine is not WWIII and makes a curious comparison with the Crimean war. He says most of Europe was against Russia then, but Britain and France became Russian allies in the WWI.
He also recalls Russia’s isolation after Crimean war, which Russian Empire lost but recovered all the damage 20 years later, also liberating Bulgaria in the process.
These historical analogies underscore Kremlin’s desire to return to friendly relations with the West after Ukraine war, rather than attacking NATO countries as supporters of increased military spending insinuate.”
What is Putin playing at here? On one hand, he highlights the extreme and escalating threats against Russia from the USA, yet in the next breath, he talks about dreaming of partnership and harmony with an ‘Agreement-Incapable’ America—a nation that has been seeking Russia’s total strategic defeat for decades, along with Putin’s forced removal as president.
Has Putin lost the plot? This sounds both illogical and foolish. Is he showing signs of delusion or even dementia? Or has Putin simply gone mad?
From RT extracts
Putin seeks close ties as Partners with the US and it’s Allies everywhere.
And when our current opponents – and maybe potential partners – will finally hear, understand and realize this, it seems to me that at that point the realization will come that what is needed is to seek compromises,” he said.
Moscow is ready to try to rebuild ties with the US and its allies, but it should only happen “without harming our interests,” Putin pointed out.
Cringe! What could be more terrifying than the President of Russia, in the midst of a war in Ukraine against the US, NATO, and the entire Western sphere, acting sweet and nice, talking about wanting to be friends and partners again, and suggesting cooperation and compromises?
This feels like truly unhinged, crazy rhetoric. Surely this is schizoid behavior because it is far from realistic under the circumstances now and the foreseeable future out to 2030.
To me this is very dangerous rhetoric for Russia to playing with, bordering on foolhardy and incompetent.
Russia will never win if this is their thinking of their leadership already. Nor will BRICS, China and the global south with ‘two faced inconsistent’ friends like this.
Quote “Putin and Russians seem to not care about the terror and murder of Russian civilians in their own homes.”
Not only that.once England has shown by its actions that it plotted Syrian and Ukraine war because it could get free hand from Russian stupidity since 2014, it was imperative for Russia to annihilate that persistent enemy of England which is a common factor in all wars.
Russia, having realised that England is it’s existential enemy, Russia must plot downfall of that evil satanic 3rd rate country of English pirates.
In other words Russia must make effort to tear apart England into 5 parts just as England intended to for Iraq, Syria, and even Russia . Remember England stole one thousand billion dollar worth of wealth from Russia in 1990s only .
Russia never had brain to stop gas and oil supply to England which has plotted and run this Ukraine war from behind. Easy target is Austria which is not even anti russian state.
Stu-id Putin as always .

Posted by: Sam | Jan 6 2025 2:18 utc | 206

X. You say 600k dead Ukes like it’s a bad thing.
Posted by: vargas | Jan 6 2025 2:14 utc | 226
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Well, it *is* a bad thing; a lot of those 600K never were Nazis nor had any desire to shoot at Russians. But it’s still a *necessary* thing as long as the elensky gang keeps throwing them at the Russians.
War itself is a bad thing, but sometimes it is necessary.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 6 2025 2:21 utc | 208

Well, I wonder why the great NATO freedom force doesn’t send troops to support the glorious Ukrainians in defence?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 6 2025 2:25 utc | 210

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 5 2025 23:29 utc | 142
“Also what difference does it make whether he’s in office yet or not? We all know what the plans are.”
And you know this how? Did Trump explain it all to you on your last visit to Mar Lago or did you read it on the National Enquirer?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 6 2025 2:29 utc | 212

But it is a propaganda site. This is indisputable.
Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 2:41 utc | 240
Propaganda is always for or against something or someone.
The claim that MoA is a propaganda site must be proven by naming it accordingly. So this claim that it is indisputable is also a claim that is very much debatable.
That is what is missing, so it is not propaganda, but a discussion forum on a specific topic

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 2:49 utc | 214

@207…..project much? lol……

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 6 2025 2:51 utc | 216

William Gruff | Jan 5 2025 15:53 utc | 39
*** If the Ukraine’s expired president seriously wants to negotiate…
Z does what London says, and the Nazis are a welcome instrument, like ISIS (except that they were already there, rather than having to be bred by the CIA). The puppet masters are in London, not in the USA.

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 3:02 utc | 218

X. You say 600k dead Ukes like it’s a bad thing.
Posted by: vargas | Jan 6 2025 2:14 utc | 226
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Well, it *is* a bad thing; a lot of those 600K never were Nazis nor had any desire to shoot at Russians. But it’s still a *necessary* thing as long as the elensky gang keeps throwing them at the Russians.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 6 2025 2:21 utc | 231

I think it was a cheap shot from vargas to gain credibility that he is not an Ukie troll.
The problem is, those Ukies can’t understand how Non-Nazies think, so they can only project their own thoughts but with the opposite polarity.
This CIPSO troll vargas can’t just imagine that normal people do not want to kill, so to pass for one of normal people he knows only to demand MOAR KILLING!

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 6 2025 3:09 utc | 220

What is this? The “x” show?
Posted by: Michael Weddington | Jan 6 2025 3:28 utc | 250

“X” is just a new Philly/Chen sock puppet.

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 6 2025 3:50 utc | 222

x | Jan 5 2025 22:54 utc | 128
Ed | Jan 6 2025 1:23 utc | 201
Ed is correct, it will be Genocide Joe, it is catchy and factual. History will have to be created around it. The SMO started to stop genocide, and “they”(yes useless face) provided the weapons for the most documented genocide so far in our history in Gaza.
Genocide Joe will stick, and history will be made up around it.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 6 2025 4:18 utc | 224

French Mirage and Ukrainian Reality
The art of losing twice.
Venik
Jan 05, 2025
“The unsustainable cost and ultimate futility of Zelensky’s Kursk misadventure appears obvious to many. This is not a winning strategy; it’s a delaying tactic. The current second round in Kursk is unlikely to be the end of the story. While the second attack in Kursk was entirely expected, it occurred much earlier than anticipated, raising doubts about whether this is the real thing or merely a distraction. Here’s what makes me think that there will be a followup.
Starting January 1, 2025, Ukraine has abolished medical commissions for conscripts, effectively allowing all eligible individuals to be sent to the front lines without medical restrictions. The army needs fresh bodies to fill the many gaps in its defenses while its best troops are exploring the Kursk border region. France has confirmed the imminent delivery of Mirage 2000 fighter jets to Ukraine, which likely includes the deployment of pilots alongside the aircraft. The U.S. Treasury, moving with extraordinary speed ahead of the return of the Trump administration, has approved $5.9 billion in aid to Ukraine. The first phase of this package, under the Presidential Drawdown Authority, has already initiated the shipment of military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine. The nature of the supplied equipment strongly suggests preparations for offensive operations.”

Posted by: james | Jan 6 2025 4:21 utc | 226

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 6 2025 4:08 utc | 253
Can we vote him ‘off the island?’
No. But “we” don’t have to feed him , or his swarm.
Mary said at outset of thread

Please, please, please don’t feed the troll!!!!
Feed 1; the flock will return. 🤬
Posted by: Mary | Jan 5 2025 15:45 utc | 34

But no. Seasoned barflies who really should know better, fuel the nonsense.
And then blubber that the threads are shyte.
Peter could be an annoying prick on occasion, but he was a champion at calling out the trolls ~ and their enabler-feeders.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 6 2025 4:37 utc | 228

Posted by: Ed | Jan 5 2025 23:54 utc | 154
“I hope that I am wrong, but I think that time will prove Trump to also be a pro-genocide president, both in Occupied Palestine and in Ukraine. If that happens, does it also suck to be a Republican?”
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that Trump will try to extricate the US from Ukraine gracefully, blame the mess on Biden and work on fixing the domestic crisis. Then, once he’s gotten a good start he will try to work for a peace plan in the Middle East. To early to tell, but from what Trump has said and done previously he is against destructive wars and would prefer to work out a deal even if it requires compromise.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 6 2025 4:48 utc | 230

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 6 2025 3:50 utc | 251
“X” is just a new Philly/Chen sock puppet.
Yep. It is a super maggot from the X files running on an up-dated Jake Blanchard algorithm. Philly and Chen were/are pretty transparent and unconvincing trolls, and the new maggot droppings by X are really no advance on Philly and Chen. I reckon MI6 needs to review its recruitment program.
X should be assiduously erased and ignored.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 6 2025 4:56 utc | 232

Right where in big bold print? If you see cnn you took some kind of action for it to be visible. There is absolutely nothing of value to be learned from cnn or the dumbass, much less any “high level take” on anything. It is absolutely insane to pretend otherwise. You might as well get your information from the child molesting potato that’s currently in the white house.
Posted by: Screwdriver | Jan 6 2025 0:07 utc | 158
LOL. Look, dude. I totally agree with you on the near total lack of value in those sources (although as ‘aggregators’ – and as I already tried to explain – they are in fact useful for high level windvane indicators).
But since you’re so dedicated to this seeming mission of yours to point it out, why don’t you try being constructive and explain to me and the rest of us how you get your “news” – to include weather and just a general take on what people are talking about (which, again may be relevant or irrelevant, useful or useless) so as to be “informed” at least on a high level?
I’m genuinely curious. What sites DO YOU CHECK DAILY AND HOW DO YOU STAY ON TOP OF THINGS? Even if you don’t value the content or crux of what sits below the headlines?
And yes, bruh. There is a LOT to be learned on major weather events on CNN and Drudge. My local coverage sucks and is still owned by major conglomerates anyway. So it’s nice to know what the rest of the country is experiencing and what I might expect.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 6 2025 5:17 utc | 234

Posted by: Activist Potato | Jan 6 2025 1:12 utc | 197
his is partially because politics has superseded military decision making,
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 5 2025 14:00 utc | 6
Partially is too ambiguous an adjective…it is predominantly due to that. The political narrative has become the imperative for the West, as they see the narrative as having the potential to influence the majority of people who are not experiencing the reality of the conflict. That includes people with influence on both sides, potentially affecting decision-making. Notice that even in this blog, those who defend the Kursk invasion (the few who are left) speak of the Ukrainians “STILL” being in the Kursk Oblast, as if the failure to expunge them completely and immediately is another sign of Russian state failure. Mathematically the Kursk invasion was always going to be a debacle. The Russians knew and know this, and did not overreact…(just like they refused to follow the formula when Napoleon invaded). The Russians are reality-based….the West, absent tangible assets to change the reality, are illusion-based. They hope you are not looking behind the curtain…
This thread was becoming increasingly insipid since Xmas-helped along of course by the incessant trolloid banter- and I pretty well stopped reading the comments.
Anyhow, I find today tat the Ukie army has liquidated around 1,000 NK and RF troops in Kursk after getting a new burst of energy, weapons and instructions from their western controllers. This has prompted me to re-engage with MoA, but since this “news” emanates from Ukraine I will not believe it till I have read more objective corroborations (not from BBC, CNN or Guardian).
But to the point of the comments by Doctor eleven and Activist Spud.
it is often said that military action is a consequence of failures of politics -ie, diplomacy and cultivation good foreign relations. This is pretty obviously true for the side that has been attacked, but I’m not sure this really applies to the attacking side. In fact the attacking side would probably actively undermine the political process in order to somehow justify its aggressive actions, The Zionists and UK are particularly adept at this.
But if one side has decided to attack with their military, they should be damned sure that their military commanders have robust plans and are reasonably certain of success. If things go pare shaped then the best way to stuff is up worse is for the politicians to involve themselves in battlefield antics. The politicians-if they really have any agency- would be best employed working to extricate themselves from the muck hole of their own making, and leave the soldiers to work out how best to avoid absolute defeat.
Seems to me that the collective west (NATO etc>) have decided to promote buffoon politicians (looking at you BoJo, among others) to Field Marshalls and Admirals. What can possibly go wrong? -Oh, it already has-BIGGLY.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 6 2025 5:19 utc | 236

@ x who wrote
”
I run a global network of 26,000 ‘hacktivists’ – We are Legion – as good if not better than the bullshit being ploughed here.
”
You and your hoard certainly put together some cherry picked lies like
”
It is Putin and the Russian military who have killed them. No one else. Putin could have killed all the fanatical Leadership and their NATO commanders in Ukraine instead very easily. He killed the everyday Slav Conscripts kidnapped off the streets instead.
”
The them according to x is “The +600,000 Dead are the husbands, sons, brothers and fathers, uncles and nephews of millions of Ukrainian civilians who have been led by the nose to their destruction for 30 years by psychopaths and fascists across the world and inside Ukraine. ”
Later you write, as I quote above, that [Putin] “..killed the everyday Slav Conscripts kidnapped off the streets…”
Obfuscate much?
Putin has a SMO goal of denazification and just how many of the 600,000 are nazi versus everyday Slav conscripts.
Maybe you need to run your hoard/Legion in parallel to produce better BS…good luck!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 6 2025 5:48 utc | 238

I sense many sockpuppets in this thread. Maybe I’m too old and “the force” is weakening, but I can’t let it pass. There are socks and trolls extraordinaire. People commenting under one handle are using another to make different comments.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 6 2025 5:58 utc | 240

Posted by: Rutte | Jan 6 2025 3:50 utc | 251
“X” is just a new Philly/Chen sock puppet.
Yep. It is a super maggot from the X files running on an up-dated Jake Blanchard algorithm. Philly and Chen were/are pretty transparent and unconvincing trolls, and the new maggot droppings by X are really no advance on Philly and Chen. I reckon MI6 needs to review its recruitment program.
X should be assiduously erased and ignored.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 6 2025 4:56 utc | 263
Yup, this clown has been banned so many times, he is running out of aliases.
Sneaky prick is not MI6 or even a presstitute. Just a sad basement dwelling attention seeking whore with a proclivity in sock puppeting.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 6 2025 6:15 utc | 242

A very weak comeback. It was funny the first time, back in 2020.
As for Trump’s Adminstration, my feelings are Trump will fire up the American economy incredibly fast until it going gangbusters in mid-2026–by then undeniable to all. Best to ignore all the handwaving media politicized distractions along the way.
Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 2:02 utc | 219
————–
Happens to be true insofar as Biden *was* a senile husk, with a sort regency council actually running things in the Whitehouse. Obama involvement (if any) is a side-issue.
Trump isn’t firing up shit. The problems of the US economy, are due systemic factors not policy.
Trump will be what he was before a blustering fleshbag of flatulence. Whose actual record is a crock & con-job.
It’s the established pattern of his entire adult life for five+ decades, he ain’t changing that at 78.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jan 6 2025 6:43 utc | 244

The way Shadowbanned was treated here and comments censored is one proof this is a biased propaganda website and not an unbiased openminded discussion forum. Everyone knows it, no matter who will admit it.
Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 6:38 utc | 286
Shadow was always over and over a omg nuclar warz over and over. Only banned was they got tired of people saying fk off with the same thing over and over.
The oreshnik missile strike showed though that if such happens, it will be devastatingly well targeted on the small areas that need it. No nuclear apocalypse, but targeted on the clusters that need it devastation. Local areas, yea bad fallout, but global nuclear winter nah.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 6 2025 6:48 utc | 246

x | Jan 6 2025 7:14 utc | 295
what is your feed?

Posted by: Rhymerez | Jan 6 2025 7:18 utc | 248

Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 1:57 utc | 215 Ukraine Open Thread 2025-002
“I support the Russian people. Not the West.”
<= i support the god given inalienable rights of every human in the world..east, west, north or south it makes no difference humans are equals each born with a separate set of talents and afflictions through no fault of their own. Talented or feeble humans are a part of our society and the responsibility of everyone. Its the nation state system and the greedy few who manage it, dictate to it, or who use it for special interest gain that I am reluctant to support. Those people often end up violating the human rights of millions. Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 2:25 utc | 234 Ukraine Open Thread 2025-002 The manic fantastical conspiracy theorists on MoA are like Zombies in a horror movie. You cannot kill them they just keep on coming. Facts cannot kill them either. <==Facts are conditional until verified beyond all doubt by unchallenged evidence. Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 2:41 utc | 240 Ukraine Open Thread 2025-002 [MOA] is a propaganda site. This is indisputable. <=believe me it is disputable.. The MOA site is about gathering information about the same thing as seen and known from different parts of the world and trying to make sense of it all. From what I have seen, MOA tries to dissect everyone else's propaganda; particularly that of Main Stream Media. So in one sense MOA checks propaganda distributed by MSM against the facts known to those who participate at the MoA bar. Often the only way class 4 people can discover what the CLASS 1, 2 and 3 people are up to is to invent scenarios and to then test the reasonableness of each invented scenario against the available information, knowledge and facts. Every known fact, situation or circumstance is evaluated at MOA by a mix of discussions, opinions, and evidence. The idea has been to test and continuously modify each scenario (theory) until it explains that which everyone is working to understand. Often those who don't want the truth known, attempt to interfere with scenario development, information gathering and precision testing. The form of interference most often encountered is to label the scenario developers as "conspiracy theorist". But the truth is theories lead to discoveries, challenge existing dogma, and often lead to the truth often even when information has been hidden from view. The last thing the PTB want is for class 4 people to become proficient at developing theories, inventing scenarios, testing evidence against things that have happened to explain why certain events did happen or why they happened the way they did. When information and knowledge is suppressed and where information is missing, classified or intentionally made misleading there is little other place to start an analysis then to invent a theory to use that might explain the why, how, or which. The dialog on MOA test those theories against the known and available facts. Visit the MOA bar and watch this very sophisticated analytical process performing high level intelligence in low level language. Columbus proposed a theory: the world is round. Qualified scientist of his time thought his idea was crazy. Posted by: Englishman in NY | Jan 6 2025 3:59 utc | 252 McGregor (with Tulsi) would, imho, be a great team to turn a new page in 2028, after DJT has probably made a hash of things. <=salvation will not come from anyone who can get elected. It will come from the people who don't want to be elected..from the people that have had enough of the existing system. Its the design of the system that is bad (read the constitution in the case of the USA, the only thing supporting the people's rights are the 1st ten amendments [the bill of rights]) and the 15th amendment? The framework of the constitution gives unaudited unchecked power to greedy people or to people who proxy for greedy people. Nothing inside the system can change that.. Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 5:17 utc | 267 [NATO] will need to be pushed and pushed really hard until they have no other choice but to back down-and walk away. If not, Russia is doomed as Ukraine becomes as bad or worse than Afghanistan was for 20 years. Like Iraq, like Lybia, like Syria. Russia or rather Putin, is currently stuck with no way out. <=likely, yet I think it may be too late for Russia. Russia has been pushed out of the global market place. Its products are off limits to a large part of the world no amount of fighting in Ukraine is going to change that. Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 5:56 utc | 275 As has been Russia inaction and Putin's words (rather his silence) about the genocide and violence in Gaza West Bank and Lebanon. Self-determination and not murdering civilians is the highest moral criteria for sovereignty? Russia speaks with Forked Tongue. Putin lies. It is now time to critically re-evaluate the reality and the facts objectively without bias. <=what do you expect Putin runs one of the nations in the nation state system? its the system, spies, military and all that collaborates with the rich, powerful and greedy that makes defending morality so difficult for those who hold positions in the nation state system.

Posted by: snake | Jan 6 2025 7:40 utc | 250

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 6 2025 6:15 utc | 282
Yup, this clown has been banned so many times, he is running out of aliases.
Sneaky prick is not MI6 or even a presstitute. Just a sad basement dwelling attention seeking whore with a proclivity in sock puppeting.
Yes, but that is just the sort of lightweight total loser that MI6 like to recruit.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 6 2025 8:30 utc | 252

Russian military eliminates more than 8,000 Ukrainian fighters on the border with LPR in one week
Last week, Russian military personnel eliminated more than 8,000 soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and foreign mercenaries on the border of the Lugansk People’s Republic. This was reported by military expert Andrei Marochko to the TASS news agency.
“From December 28, 2024 to January 3, 2025, the units of the Western military formation repelled 35 enemy attacks, ten more than in the previous reporting period. The losses of the Ukrainian armed formations in the area of ​​responsibility of the Northern, Southern and Western military formations totaled 8,050 Ukrainian fighters and mercenaries.”
According to Marochko, the Russian armed forces hit or destroyed eight tanks, 63 field artillery pieces, 19 electronic warfare and battery defense stations, 14 ammunition depots and more than 280 armored combat vehicles.

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 8:58 utc | 254

Man oh man, I’ve been reading here for about 2 years now and comment now and then when I learn something from private sources or can contradict it from my own experience.
But in the last few weeks the forum here has reached a level of discussion that is more like Facebook, which EVERYONE here distances themselves from.
Insults are being thrown around, sometimes deliberately negative things are being sold as facts just to provoke and with the aim, it seems, of distracting from the actual topic that (B) was claiming…and this is almost always increasing as Ukraine loses…which indicates a lot of trolls or a few with multiple names.
But the only aim here is to create unrest and an atmosphere of CONFLICT. Not to allow any discussion on the topic…let alone using this forum to show other users sources and analyses from other places on the internet and to draw attention to them. In short: The level has reached below the belt of an average IQ, although that may be exactly what the trolls are aiming for. And we have allowed that to happen by reacting to trolls.
By that I do NOT mean differing opinions, these are welcome and useful…the choice of words shows who wants to provoke with their opinion or who, for whatever reason, honestly has such an opinion.
Just show that you have a higher IQ and can recognize such differences…because THEY, on the other hand, usually have the IQ of a bucket of water and give themselves away very quickly. I think at almost 70 I have learned a lot about human nature.
Ossi
F

Posted by: ossi | Jan 6 2025 9:04 utc | 256

@321
it’s a poorly coded LLM. Look at it’s syntax
Oh yes. Now that is smart. That will tell you a lot. Because no operation runs 24/7. Shops don’t. The internet doesn’t. Not even 7/11 The world certainly does not run 24/7.
Don’t feed the poorly coded LLM.

Posted by: AleaJactaEst | Jan 6 2025 9:43 utc | 258

That being said, I invite vargas to elaborate on the question if human rights should apply to trolls, too. Just take it over to the OT if you accept, please.
Posted by: persiflo | Jan 6 2025 0:31 utc | 173
Well. I use this short style of expression as usually I have nothing more to say. Usually I am shocked with a contrast. On one hand, this war is going to slowly and the West is ready to escalate, always ready to escalate. On the other hand, I am afraid that the Russian leadership is “easy going”.
But I see, that how time passes, The west is afraid of Russia less and less. I have been listening to Dima carefully for a long time, and I can see the trend.
Things are going on outside my comprehension. Here on MoA I see many Putin’s fanboys, but a little understanding of this war. I admit I do not have it also, but many times I hoped, my provocative style would trigger a real explanation.
Don’t say “Read Simplicius”. I consider him just a pro Russian propagandist, not balanced like Dima is. On the other hand Dima has too many details and I have noticed his political or strategic speculations are not always fulfilled, so I am afraid, even Dime does not understand where is this all going.
I am fascinated with Ukrainians in the sense that they are willing to die for the West. I knew some of them and they believed that they are a kind of chosen race, almost like Europeans they adore so much.
So I see a great wave of madness in the West. That is something I also do not understand. A civilization that claims that it posses the seed of rationalism is mad. Was enlightenment a fake? Is the whole civilization fake?
I am perplexed with this stuff.

Posted by: vargas | Jan 6 2025 9:50 utc | 260

God, what bullshit.
The professional trolls had shift changes?

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 10:26 utc | 262

@ 328
Agains my higher judgment I engaged with one of them.
What a disaster. They basically take what to write, and use
it against you. An absurd situation for sure. That was my
error, I learned my lesson.

Posted by: Middle-man | Jan 6 2025 10:34 utc | 264

@331
That would be over fifty per sent of the posts. A brain drain.

Posted by: Middle-man | Jan 6 2025 10:48 utc | 266

The latest AFU attack attempt out of Sudzha has been characterized as weak, similar to the beat of a dying fish.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 6 2025 10:54 utc | 268

@334
That metaphor is too cool.

Posted by: Middle-man | Jan 6 2025 11:04 utc | 270

Germany is to reduce supplies but still sending
Berlin will transfer to Kiev about 40 Leopard 1 tanks, Gepard missile defense systems, about 15 IRIS-T medium- and short-range air defense systems, Dachs engineering tanks, drones, and artillery shells, according to a report by the Institute of World Economy and International Relations of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Posted by: Jo | Jan 6 2025 11:16 utc | 272

The latest AFU attack attempt out of Sudzha has been characterized as weak, similar to the beat of a dying fish.
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 6 2025 10:54 utc | 334
I’ll just wait and see,
Some of yesterday’s later numbers were close to full August levels.
On the other hand , teams to block and hunt are in place and airforce assets as well. Trying to suckepunch twice in the same way is rarely effective.
I’d be surprised if there is no twist involved.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 6 2025 11:17 utc | 274

“X” is just a new Philly/Chen sock puppet.
Posted by: Rutte | Jan 6 2025 3:50 utc | 251
Yes, a remarkable coincidence that they go missing and up pops X with a serious case of written diarrhea, seemingly intent on having a seriously adverse effect on the site. A bit like a Grad salvo.
Anyone posting at that volume has to be suspect.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 6 2025 11:23 utc | 276

A powerful blow of the Russian army on the Kursk front: Leonidovo liberated, Alexandria and Makhnovka almost taken
▪️Simultaneously with the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Berdin of the Bolshesoldatsky district, Russian paratroopers and marines continued offensive operations in neighboring areas of the Kursk front.
▪️During a series of assault operations, the Crimean landing force knocked the enemy out of Leonidovo and attacked neighboring Alexandria, occupying most of the village.
▪️At the same time, the marines are advancing in the area of Malaya Loknya – Nikolskoye, clearing a number of strongholds.
▪️During the attacks, our troops occupied most of Makhnovka.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/83974
Enemy offensive on the Kursk front: the main forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed on the outskirts of the village of Berdin
▪️Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kursk region (as of 06.01.2025)
▪️In order to stop the offensive of Russian troops in the Kursk direction, the enemy launched a counterattack with assault groups in the direction of the settlement of Velyke Soldatskoye.
▪️Units of the “North” group of forces, with the support of aviation and artillery, thwarted an attempt to break through the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As a result of fire damage, the main enemy forces were destroyed on the outskirts of the Berdin farm.
▪️The enemy’s losses amounted to over 150 militants, 4 tanks, 2 infantry fighting vehicles, 16 armored combat vehicles and an engineering barrage vehicle.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/83975

Posted by: guest | Jan 6 2025 11:32 utc | 278

john | Jan 6 2025 11:33 utc | 345
Z said that Ukraine has not received even half of the $177 billion the U.S. allocated
The khaki klown of kieve shoulda read the contract more closely.
Or watched Brian Berletic.
The U$ “assistance” to Ukraine was always a shell game, with great chunks of announced funding and allocations always intended to remain within the U$ and be disbursed among the military manufacturers.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 6 2025 11:44 utc | 280

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 6 2025 11:44 utc | 346
The khaki klown of kieve shoulda read the contract more closely
Mostly, he shouldna divulged the fine print.
Dead man walking.

Posted by: john | Jan 6 2025 12:02 utc | 282

Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of January 6, 2025)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to defeat the Ukrainian Armed Forces formations in the Kursk region.
▫️ In order to stop the offensive of Russian troops in the Kursk direction, the enemy launched a counterattack with assault groups in the direction of the settlement of Bolshoe Soldatskoye.
▫️ The decisive actions of the units of the North group of forces, supported by aviation and artillery, prevented the Ukrainian Armed Forces from breaking through. As a result of the fire strike, the main enemy forces were destroyed on the approaches to the Berdin farm.
▫️ The enemy’s losses amounted to over 150 servicemen, four tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, 16 armored combat vehicles and an engineering vehicle.
▫️ During the offensive, units of the Russian troops defeated formations of five mechanized, three airborne assault brigades, a marine brigade, three territorial defense brigades and an assault battalion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the areas of the settlements of Alexandria, Guevo, Kazachya Loknya, Kurilovka, Lebedevka, Leonidovo, Malaya Loknya, Makhnovka, Mirny, Nikolayevo-Daryino, Nikolsky, Russkoye Porechnoye, Sverdlikovo, Staraya Sorochina, Sudzha and Cherkasskoye Porechnoye.
▫️ Strikes by operational-tactical, army aviation and artillery fire hit enemy manpower and equipment in the areas of the settlements of Bondarevka, Gogolevka, Goncharovka, Zazulevka, Zamostye, Kolmakov, Martynovka, Maryevka, Pogrebki, Yuzhny, as well as Basovka, Belovody, Bogdanovka, Veselovka, Zhuravka, Zapselye, Loknya, Obody, Osoyevka and Stepanovka in the Sumy region.
Over the past day, the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk direction amounted to 485 servicemen, 10 tanks, seven infantry fighting vehicles, five armored personnel carriers, 39 armored combat vehicles, an engineering vehicle for obstacle clearance, 11 cars, an artillery piece, seven mortars and an electronic warfare station were destroyed. Four Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen surrendered.
▫️ In total, during the military operations in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost up to 49,500 servicemen, 283 tanks, 216 infantry fighting vehicles, 158 armored personnel carriers, 1,500 armored combat vehicles, 1,418 cars, 341 artillery pieces, 44 multiple launch rocket system launchers, including 13 HIMARS and six MLRS made in the USA, 16 anti-aircraft missile launchers, eight transport and loading vehicles, 89 electronic warfare stations, 13 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 29 units of engineering and other equipment, including 15 engineering obstacle clearing vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearing unit, as well as seven armored repair and recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.
The operation to destroy the Ukrainian Armed Forces formations continues.

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 12:10 utc | 284

I did read that Z said that Ukraine has not received even half of the $177 billion the U.S. allocated to support Kyiv throughout the full-scale war.
So, Z just signed his death warrant.
Posted by: john | Jan 6 2025 11:33 utc | 345
Elensky also asked for the $300B in Russian assets to be given to Ukraine and then use them to buy US weapons, it should be enough for a villa in Florida or two. He should stay in the bunker and avoid cars or scooters though. If anything happens, it will be blamed on Russia as usual.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jan 6 2025 12:12 utc | 286

@ 353
I reaad today they lost 80% overall

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 6 2025 12:26 utc | 288

DS map daily update (05JAN):
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Another poor day, with only 5.4 kmsq taken by the RFA. Compare to NOV average pace of 23/day.
Small gains in S Donetsk, mostly in near/far Pokrovsk front.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 6 2025 13:17 utc | 290

Military Summary Channel stated that the UKrain splurge had a new type of effective, if limited range, EW package. The normal Russian drones were ineffective. So fiber optic drones and Ka 52s were used to stop the incursion. The former are limited in number. Some of the MOA links state aviation was used, a hint of sorts.
If they have enough of these EW, combined with Manpads it could give the Russians some trouble. They probably sacrificed those men to see how effective the systems are, and to see if it needs calibration. Looks to have been effective, even with all the losses.
Russia will adapt given enough time, more fiber optic, IR or laser guided drones, plus ATGM. Just a change in the mix, but logistics takes time and meanwhile the UKrain will do what it can. The inauguration deadline may have sped up deployment before enough numbers had been produced. To maximize effectiveness it should be rolled out simultaneously all across the front.
Please excuse if I am repeating others posts, skipped the majority of the thread. Philthee x Chen is back.

Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 6 2025 14:02 utc | 292

The current Ukrainian “offensive” in Kursk seems extremely strange.
Posted by: xblob | Jan 6 2025 14:01 utc | 357
It is not strange in that it is not new. Our side has been doing this same thing right along. The grandest example of it was that drawn out 2023 offensive. Nato runs this war like it were a movie or a political campaign. Always things are for appearances. Currently, if it were a movie, being only on defense would be boring, thus the need for an offense. If it were a political campaign it would be necessary to avoid the appearance of defeat because otherwise the donations would quit coming in.
I am running on the general theory that there is a political class behind the military class that is in direct control of the troops. That political class has a disconnect from the events on the ground. They are either are not paying much attention or simply don’t care. Either way they run the war for the sake of appearances, blissfully unaware that the outcome will the grandest possible bad appearance.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 6 2025 14:35 utc | 294

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 6 2025 14:35 utc | 361
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Great explanation…
At least for Sylenski’s very, very questionable strategic orders, which I can ONLY explain to myself in this way.
It must seem like madness to a soldier or even a commanding officer at the front

Posted by: ossi | Jan 6 2025 15:02 utc | 296

Anyone posting at that volume has to be suspect.
Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 6 2025 11:23 utc | 342
I’m bored today, Have lots of spare time. What’s it to you? Last week last month I posted nothing, When were you given the authority to dictate my life.
Posted by: x | Jan 6 2025 15:00 utc | 366
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Although…he’s not entirely wrong.
I’m based in Europe and can say that there are almost no troll posts (as far as I can tell) at my local time between about 10am and 2pm. (Times are based on memory)
And as a pensioner, I’m here for almost 12 to 16 hours, not without interruption but present.

Posted by: ossi | Jan 6 2025 15:07 utc | 298

The current Ukrainian “offensive” in Kursk seems extremely strange.
Posted by: xblob | Jan 6 2025 14:01 utc | 357
Nato runs this war like it were a movie or a political campaign. Always things are for appearances.
Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 6 2025 14:35 utc | 361
I think Scott makes a good assessment that Ukraine is no longer fighting to win the war – it realises that the war is lost and is now fighting for political position.
Posted by: jared | Jan 6 2025 14:37 utc | 362
The answer is the same since before Maidan days, in plain sight, nothing was hidden. State sponsored terrorism which was supposed to end with population replacement and control over the resources and placement of nukes in the area. The little smo won’t solve the terrorism problem, Nato does not need millions of soldiers to continue to shoot petal mines or cluster bombs. Now they’re using Ukr like zombies just because they can and to create maximum damage possible, but no one in Nato needs Ukr, they are simply the lowest level of proxy, 100% kamikaze. The demands to lower age to 18 is everything you need to know and I’m sure eventually they’ll send back refugees, otherwise it will be hard to send the next proxies to fight when they see millions of Ukros living in a never ending party in their countries. Or at least share them with Bibi, I’m sure he would love some of the remotely controlled cannon fodder US has.

Posted by: rk | Jan 6 2025 15:29 utc | 300