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January 14, 2025
Trump’s Action Demonstrates Biden’s Failure In Stopping The Genocide

The current phase of the genocide in Gaza might soon come to an end.

The resistance has continued to kill its occupiers day by day:

Five Israel Defense Forces soldiers were killed and 10 were wounded in an explosion in northern Gaza on Monday, the military said, raising Israel’s toll in over 15 months of fighting in the Strip to 407.

It has steadily increased the pressure on the Israeli government to finally end the slaughter. It is looking likely that it has now achieved one of its aims:

Hamas has accepted a draft agreement for a Gaza ceasefire and the release of hostages, officials sayAP News

Hamas has accepted a draft agreement for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip and the release of dozens of hostages, two officials involved in the talks said Tuesday. Mediator Qatar said Israel and the Palestinian militant group were at the “closest point” yet to sealing a deal.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the proposed agreement, and an Egyptian official and a Hamas official confirmed its authenticity. An Israeli official said progress has been made, but the details are being finalized. The plan would need to be submitted to the Israeli Cabinet for final approval.

The deal, about a hostage exchange and ceasefire, is similar to one that has been on offer since many, many month ago. That deal had been agreed to by Hamas but was sabotaged again and again by Netanyahoo and his coalition allies:

National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir sparked outcry Monday when he claimed he had repeatedly foiled a hostage-ceasefire deal with Hamas over the past year, while calling on Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich to join him in thwarting an emerging agreement.

In a post on X, together with a video in which he called on far-right ally Smotrich to join him in telling Netanyahu that they would bolt the coalition if the current hostage deal proposal went through, Ben Gvir said that they have managed to stop previous efforts to reach an agreement.

“In the last year, using our political power, we managed to prevent this deal from going ahead, time after time,” he wrote.

However, Ben Gvir said he now lacks the power to stop what he termed the “surrender deal” because Netanyahu expanded the coalition by bringing in Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar’s New Hope party in September last year.

Aside from Ben Gvir's and Smotrich's resistance to a deal, it was Netanyahoo personally who was blocking a deal with the hope of assuring his own political survival.

Over fifteen months the Biden administration falsely claimed that it was Hamas which was blocking a deal over Gaza. It falsely claimed that it could not use any pressure against Netanyahoo to finally accept an agreement.

That was of course nonsense as it is the U.S. which was and is financing Netanyahoo's war. 

It only took a few hours and some brashness from Donald Trump to push Netanyahoo towards concessions.

As Haaretz writes (archived):

Last Friday evening, Steven Witkoff, U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's Middle East envoy, called from Qatar to tell Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's aides that he would be coming to Israel the following afternoon. The aides politely explained that was in the middle of the Sabbath but that the prime minister would gladly meet him Saturday night.

Witkoff's blunt reaction took them by surprise. He explained to them in salty English that Shabbat was of no interest to him. His message was loud and clear. Thus in an unusual departure from official practice, the prime minister showed up at his office for an official meeting with Witkoff, who then returned to Qatar to seal the deal.

Other Israeli media add:

Two officials familiar with the latest ceasefire push told The Times of Israel on Monday that Trump’s Mideast envoy held a “tense” meeting with Netanyahu on Saturday, during which the former leaned hard on the Israeli premier to accept compromises necessary to secure a hostage deal by the January 20 US presidential inauguration.

Witkoff’s pressure on Netanyahu appeared to have had an effect, with the two officials familiar with the negotiations saying that key gaps were filled in the talks over the weekend.

Should the deal go through the members of the Biden administration will falsely claim that it was their achievement. It was not. It was them who had for over a year enabled Netanyahoo to proceed with the genocide.

In fact there are still attempts by the Biden/Blinken duo to give Netanyahoo an excuse and reason to sabotage a deal:

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will unveil a plan for the post-war management of Gaza in a speech on Tuesday that has been the subject of internal divisions within the Biden administration, according to a US official.

The plan Blinken is slated to unveil envisions a reformed PA leading the post-war governance of Gaza in what would create a pathway to an eventual two-state solution.

But the fear from some in the administration is that the speech will end up serving Netanyahu’s political interests, while marginalizing the PA and its President Mahmoud Abbas, Axios reported.

The US official speaking to The Times of Israel said that Netanyahu could end up using the plan as an excuse to blow up the hostage negotiations by arguing that the talks are being used to allow the PA to gain a foothold in Gaza once the war is over.

As Axios summarizes:

The bottom line: "Blinken wants to try and shape the outcome of the war and he will make clear in his speech how he thinks Israel can turn its tactical wins against Hamas into strategic gains," a U.S. official said.

The genocide enablers of the Biden administration are on their way out. The new administration will probably have stopped the genocide even before it enters its office. In this case elections did matter.

But stopping the genocide does not make a Trump administration less friendly to Israel's greed for extension. In whatever may follow a ceasefire we can be sure that Trump will (again) take Israel's side.

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🇵🇸🇱🇧 A senior member of Hamas’s Politburo, Khalil al-Hayya:
O Loyal and honorable nation… As we announce that we have reached an agreement to stop the war and aggression, we remember with all words of gratitude and appreciation all those who stood by us, our nation, and our resistance in difficult moments.
We especially remember our brothers on the supporting fronts, especially in dear Lebanon, where our brothers in Hezbollah sacrificed hundreds of martyrs of commanders and fighters in the cause of Quds, especially Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, the respected Secretary General, and his other brothers in the leadership of Hezbollah.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37848

🇵🇸🇾🇪 Al-Hayyah: We also remember our brothers in Yemen, Ansar Allah, who crossed their geographical borders, changed the equation of war and the region, and fired missiles and drones into the heart of the occupiers, surrounding them in the Red Sea.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37849

🇵🇸🇮🇷🇮🇶 Al-Hayyah: We also remember the efforts of our brothers in the Islamic Republic of Iran who supported the resistance and our nation, participated in the battle, and targeted the heart of the Zionist regime in operations True Promise 1 and True Promise 2. We also remember the Iraqi resistance, which overcame all obstacles to support Palestine and its resistance, and whose missiles and drones reached our occupied territories..

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37850

🇵🇸 Al-Hayyah: We also send our greetings to the people and our revolutionary youth in the West Bank, especially in the Jenin Heroic Camp, and in Quds and the occupied territories. Greetings to our nation in exile, and to our Arab and Islamic nations.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37851

🇵🇸 Al-Hayyah: We thank all those who stood with their words, pens, voices, images, marches, demonstrations, weapons of boycott, and political, diplomatic, and legal efforts, and raised their voices against aggression and oppression, at the regional and global levels. We thank those free people who broke the conspiracy of silence and exposed the occupiers’ crimes against humanity in Gaza and realized the truth of the scene.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37852

🇵🇸🇱🇧 Al-Hayyah: We also remember the support of our brothers in the Islamic Jamaat and appreciate the resistance, great sacrifices, and immense patience of the Lebanese people in defending and supporting the Palestinian people. They performed a wonderful job and turned the lives of the occupiers into hell and displacement. This is a true scene of solidarity and support that depicts Islamic and Arab brotherhood.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37853

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 15 2025 21:54 utc | 201

I’m not the pheasant plucker, I’m the pheasant plucker mate. I’m only plucking pheasants cos the pheasant plucker’s late.
There will be no ceasefire, just a turkey shoot. The Zionazis are irredeemable liars. Biden always did like sick jokes.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 15 2025 21:59 utc | 202

Test

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 15 2025 21:59 utc | 203

forgotten, or forgiven
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1879631665955487852
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Yemen will open the Red Sea passage to all ships once the permanent ceasefire takes effect on Sunday the 19th.
Palestine has become a cause embraced by people around the world, thanks to the sacrifices of Palestinians, Lebanese, Yemenis, Iranians and the unwavering support of people from all backgrounds – students, academics and ordinary citizens.
Many have paid a heavy price for their solidarity with Palestine, facing loss of jobs, imprisonment, harassment, arrest, physical assault and verbal abuse.
Like Palestine, war criminals will not be forgotten.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2025 22:11 utc | 204

On the Palestine OT, I posted the details of the ceasefire outlined yesterday by Mahmood OD podcast called “The Single Remaining Obstacle”, which reveal something about the conditions of both sides coming to this agreement, imo, but for some reason this will not post on this thread.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 15 2025 22:14 utc | 205

Of course those are deranged Trump cultists.. . .Everyone but the cultists know it.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 15:56 utc | 171
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Posted my name at the head of his rant about “cultists” but doesn’t reference anything specific that I wrote.
Barflies can read my comment and decide who sounds deranged.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 15 2025 22:23 utc | 206

Corbyn is a great leader, should have been Prime Minster, and was/is heads above any of the war criminals come before hm or since. it’s a real shame for the British people that he was defamed by the Ruling Elites and lost the PM chance…
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/international-parties-welcome-gaza-ceasefire-deal
International parties welcome Gaza ceasefire deal
Numerous international parties are welcoming the ceasefire in Gaza after the Resistance pried a ceasefire deal out of the hands of the Israeli occupation…..
…..Jeremy Corbyn
British Parliament member Jeremy Corbyn issued a scathing statement in the wake of the announced ceasefire in Gaza, condemning the global inaction that prolonged the suffering of millions. The statement described the past 15 months as a period of “horror and inhumanity” that “should haunt us forever.”
“Home by home, hospital by hospital, generation by generation – we have witnessed a genocide, aided and abetted by governments across the world, including our own,” the statement declared.
The announcement of the ceasefire was acknowledged as a moment of relief for survivors and their families. “It is beyond shameful that it has taken this long to bring it about. How many lives could have been saved if political leaders acted sooner and listened to the global demand for peace? They have blood on their hands – and it will never wash away,” it added.
Calling for accountability, the statement urged the British government to cooperate fully with the International Criminal Court (ICC). “The British government must now cooperate fully with the ICC in pursuit of justice against all those who have committed war crimes. That includes complying with orders for arrest warrants, handing over all intelligence, and facing accountability for its own complicity in genocide,” the statement asserted.
Furthermore, it demanded the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza and the West Bank and pledged continued solidarity with the Palestinian people. “We will continue to stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people until they can live in peace, dignity, and freedom,” the statement concluded……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2025 22:26 utc | 207

Reprint a zillion statements from Palestinian freedom fighters’ spokespeople and today they’ll all say the same thing what a great ‘peace’ it is that is coming. That is not because any freedom fighter in Palestine believes that, yet they have two important tasks today, the first being to convince Palestinians that they signed up in good conscience and the second in the vain hope that just once , fingers crossed, that the lying slaughtering scum that all zionists are, are actually telling the truth this time. The second of course they don’t believe for a minute but they say it in an effort to show the world that they are genuine, whatever next cannot be blamed on them – even while they know it likely will be.
Like I said initially a farce.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 15 2025 22:27 utc | 208

Posted by: Jane | Jan 15 2025 2:10 utc | 113

I think there are many who are pro-Trump because they see in him a slight hope of a change in a number of policies that are driving the USA down.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 15:56 utc | 171

And other Trumpers pretend to favor Trump because there’s a chance his policies will drive the USA down.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 15 2025 22:23 utc | 212

Posted my name at the head of his rant about “cultists” but doesn’t reference anything specific that I wrote.

As can be seen, the very first sentence was a direct response. Jane is a liar.
The fact that some Trumpers favor Trump for putting America back on top while others profess to want Trump to finish off the Empire is of course humiliating to aware Trumpers (if any such thing exists in the cult.)

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 22:35 utc | 209

Ceasefire between Hamas and Israel has just been announced.Bided and Trump are both claiming credit.
Biden bloviated that it will lead to a independent Palestine, but I’ve heard that for decades. In the 80s, I supported the two state solution, too. But now, most of the land where I expected independent Palestine to be, has been taken over by Israeli settlers. Not much is left.

Posted by: lester | Jan 15 2025 22:43 utc | 210

https://x.com/falasteen47/status/1879621019910238290
Robert Inlakesh @falasteen47
BREAKING: Israel launches a large series of airstrikes on Gaza city after the ceasefire announcement.
Immediately after, news emerged that Israeli soldiers were killed in Beit Hanoun.
The ceasefire is yet to go into effect & Israel often ramps up its massacres at this time.
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1879624497361457329
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
You helped slaughter tens of thousands of awesome kids in Gaza.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1879229003489493470
Elon Musk @elonmusk
Kids are awesome. Nothing will make you happier.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2025 22:44 utc | 211

To these children a ceasefire was only ever talk after all:
“Most of them are children…
Martyrs in the Baptist Hospital as a result of the occupation’s bombing of residential areas in Gaza City, a short while ago.”
https://t.me/youseffares19/64822

Posted by: Ornot | Jan 15 2025 22:47 utc | 212

Experience and logic would say the Israelis, who always lie, have no intention of maintaining a ceasefire, BUT even a week of ceasefire helps the Palestinians imprisoned there and will allow more international observers to enter and see the extent of the carnage and report back.
Any ceasefire allows much needed food, medicine, fuel and supplies into Gaza and allows the world to know more about the level of slaughter and destruction inflicted by the Israeli Occupiers.
If Trump wants this war to end, and who knows what he wants at this point, then it will end. It seems unlikely that Trump wants to continue the genocide which Israel plans where 6 million men, women and children are exterminated or expelled from all of Occupied Palestine, assuming it could even be done, but who knows.
It is indeed ironic that the US is forever bleating to the world about how it defends freedom and democracy, and indeed rants about Iran which apparently does not meet its high standards, while making it possible for the greatest thug and undemocratic state on the planet, Israel, to continue with its colonial apartheid and genocide.
I know Americans changed a lot of spelling to distance themselves from the English who gave them English, but did they leave out the word HYPOCRISY entirely from their dictionary? Or perhaps it has another spelling.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 15 2025 22:48 utc | 213

I am surprised, actually.
I was against ceasefire, but then Hezbollah succumbed to one, indicating they were hurt far worse than this forum will admit.
Now, with HTS in Syria, Hamas and Palestine may be better off.
Time will tell, but this sure feels a lot more like “I dont give a shit about Shabbot” than “Ill let Israel finish the Job”.
I will say this, I was wrong about the US election. I thought the genocide would continue regardless. I know it would have under Biden.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 15 2025 23:10 utc | 214

Trump put out this statement earlier today:
Trump: “We will seek to further expand the historic Abraham Accords.”
Sure. The Accords that do not include any Palestinian input, allow Israel to do as they wish to Gaza and settle the West Bank one third at a time, continue the occupation of both areas, etc.
There’s more to this peace agreement than what is written in the press. Trump gave something big to Netanyahu. Mentioning the Abraham Accords is kind of a tell – in the end, Trump won’t care whether or not Israel abides by this ceasefire at all.

Posted by: teri | Jan 15 2025 23:12 utc | 215

test

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 15 2025 23:14 utc | 216

test

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 15 2025 23:16 utc | 217

see the 22-second video at the last link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndvbi-azhcQ
GAZA CEASEFIRE CONFIRMED! | When Will It Start? What’s Next? | Live + Members & Subscribers Q/A
Mahmood OD | محمود عو
https://x.com/jimmy_dore/status/1879625510579569053
Jimmy Dore @jimmy_dore
As I predicted many times on my show & elsewhere, Trump likes to do deals & take credit for them. Voting Harris meant more genocide & slaughter of the children in Gaza, Trump provided a chance for peace.
His envoy Witkoff did not waste time or words & forced a deal THAT ISRAEL DID NOT WANT to end the war.
I didn’t endorse Trump because of his rhetoric, but I always held out hope that he would do exactly what he’s just done.
Biden/Harris could have gotten this done months & months ago but REFUSED to use any leverage at all to stop it.
All the people who voted Harris voted for slaughtering children, no way around that.
The people of Gaza are celebrating.
Joe Biden & the cult that is the Democratic party are lying & taking credit for Trump’s peace deal.
Even Israel is acknowledging this is being imposed on them by Trump, the Democrats continue to be corrupt liars who will forever be known as the monsters that funded & enabled a genocide.
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1879622676404392360
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Hours before the ceasefire, Zionist pilots wiped out the Al-Harazin family in an airstrike on the Farabi School as they were having a meal together.
#GazaHolocaust

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2025 23:19 utc | 218

221 teri.
I read on some News (sorry, can’t remember which, not one I am familiar with) Trump ok’ed more Israel settlement in West Bank among other concessions to Israhell.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 15 2025 23:29 utc | 219

More than 30 martyrs, wounded and missing as a result of the occupation’s raids on Gaza City during the last hour
82 martyrs as a result of the ongoing Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip since dawn on Wednesday
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Successive massacres in Gaza and insane bombing that has not stopped for three hours
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Netanyahu’s Office:
Prime Minister Netanyahu made clear that he is committed to returning all the abductees by any means possible, and congratulated US President-elect Trump on his words that the United States will work with Israel to ensure that Gaza will never again be a haven for terror.
The two sides agreed to meet soon in Washington to discuss this and other important issues.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: teri | Jan 15 2025 23:31 utc | 220

Elon Musk @elonmusk
Kids are awesome. Nothing will make you happier.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2025 22:44 utc | 217
——————–
Musk could end the bombing in a minute by standing in the middle of Gaza, or the West Bank, and proclaiming that Palestinian children are “awesome” (it really is time to retire that word, though).
A friend of mine has recently traveled to Ramallah, just to look around for herself, so Musk can do the same.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 15 2025 23:46 utc | 221

River to the Sea.
Cry, hasbarats.
Palestine IS still.
Palestinians still ARE.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 15 2025 23:48 utc | 222

About my post 117 on Palestine Thread 2025 – 009, on the Mahmoud OD video “The Single Remaining Obstacle” of Jan. 14, I question could someone connected with the Palestinian Authority have had it taken down. I say this because Mahmood also discussed in his podcast the “main obstacle” to the ceasefire being Abbas’ attempt to waylay it by taking some initiative to the UN that the PA was the only body with authority to carry out such an interaction between states or state representatives. My memory of this may be inaccurate, only that Mahmood was committed to rejecting this possibility.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 16 2025 0:21 utc | 223

It is interesting to see those who believe it is all over for Gaza, by which they mean Palestine and that Israel has won the day when the facts on the ground say the opposite.
Israel did not defeat Hamas and the Palestinian Resistance and neither did it defeat Hezbollah. Both remain intact and a resistance force with which to reckon.
Perhaps more critically, world opinion is against Israel and with the Palestinians and no doubt the Lebanese.
Most Americans, which is quite remarkable, blame Israel and want it dismantled, including a lot of Jews. Younger Americans in particular.
Israel cannot survive without the world although the world has no need for Israel. That reality as its military is almost mortally wounded, its economy in tatters, its society torn apart, its image around the world forever shredded, makes Israel the big loser. It will never be forgiven for this genocide and neither should it be.
Yes, Gaza is in ruins but so was much of Europe after each World War. Guess what? It was rebuilt. Gaza will be rebuilt as will what Israel has destroyed in the rest of Occupied Palestine.
Israel could never win this war because the only way it was possible to truly win and remove forever all resistance, would be to exterminate, not expel, but exterminate 6 million in Occupied Palestine, 2 million in what is called Israel and 8 million Palestinians in the Diaspora. And that cannot be done. Even if Israel exterminated half of their number there would still be more Palestinians than Israelis who would continue to fight for their homeland.
If the Zionists and Jews who became Israelis had not been such deranged racist bigots, they would have done the sensible thing and created one state in all of Palestine where the native people were full and equal citizens sharing the land with the European colonisers.
Palestinians are an ancient and pragmatic people, well educated, sophisticated and resilient. What a vibrant State that could have been. Sure, it would probably not have been called Israel and neither would it be a backward Jewish theocracy, but Jews who wanted to live there could live in peace and harmony and be proud of their nation. Israelis squandered that opportunity and now will get nothing.
And for what? The racist, fascist, deranged fantasy of a religious state for Jews?

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 0:29 utc | 224

So, without those borders, Israel does not correspond to the ages-old accepted definition of a state.
The second condition that Israel agreed to then reneged on was the return of all refugees. The third was the internationalization of Jerusalem. Posted by: RJPJR | Jan 15
Correct. In essence Israel does not exist. Not only does it not have declared or proven borders, it does not have a nationality. There are no Israelis because there is no Israeli nationality. The only nationality is religious, Jewish.
And while some would say the UN mandate made Israel legal, the reality is there was no mandate and there was no legality. The UN has no legal power to partition any country. Also, the Security Council had to approve the recommendation and it never did.
And then the Israelis reneged on conditions of the recommendation to treat the Palestinians with respect and allow them to live in freedom in what was left of their country, which would have rendered the recommendation null and void.
Israel is illegal and it always was.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 0:34 utc | 225

As a TDS person who is anti-Trump, I make the following recommendations to the TDS people that are pro-Trump.
1) Take a cautious victory lap. Donald Trump did the unthinkable. The intense cheers from Palestinians means that the deal was good for Palestine. However, your victory could be snatched away at any time.
2) Use the momentum from this victory not to demonize Biden. Why waste the breath – the ceasefire should it stand will all by itself condemn Biden as the worst most vicious evil President of all time.
3) Instead use the momentum to put forth your agenda in Congress in its most pure form. I’ll be against it 100%. But in 2028 there can then be a debate over which of your policies succeeded, and which were less successful and need to be modified or even undone. Please use your victory to improve America, instead of making it just one more event that causes Americans to hate each other even more than before.

Posted by: Woke American | Jan 16 2025 1:40 utc | 226

Empty Biden threats, ‘smokescreen’ policy enabled Gaza horrors
Could a tougher US president have saved lives by clinching earlier a deal similar to Wednesday’s Israel-Hamas ceasefire?
by Brett Murphy January 16, 2025
This article was originally published by ProPublica, a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative newsroom.
Reporting highlights

Costs of inaction: Experts say Biden’s failure to follow through led to impunity for widespread human rights abuses, including blocking aid deliveries, even after explicit US warnings.
Empty threats: Since October 7, 2023, Biden has repeatedly issued threats that Israel ignored. US officials tried to enforce consequences — but they couldn’t.
Internal dissent: The State Department disregarded its own experts and cracked down on leaks. Some human rights officials said they were prevented from pursuing evidence of Israeli abuses.

In early November, a small group of senior US human rights diplomats met with a top official in President Joe Biden’s State Department to make one final, emphatic plea: We must keep our word
Weeks before, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and the administration delivered their most explicit ultimatum yet to Israel, demanding the Israel Defense Forces allow hundreds more trucksloads of food and medicine into Gaza every day — or else. American law and Biden’s own policies prohibit arms sales to countries that restrict humanitarian aid. Israel had 30 days to comply.
In the month that followed, the IDF was accused of roundly defying the US, its most important ally. The Israeli military tightened its grip, continued to restrict desperately needed aid trucks and displaced 100,000 Palestinians from North Gaza, humanitarian groups found, exacerbating what was already a dire crisis “to its worst point since the war began.”
Several attendees at the November meeting — officials who help lead the State Department’s efforts to promote racial equity, religious freedom and other high-minded principles of democracy — said the United States’ international credibility had been severely damaged by Biden’s unstinting support of Israel. If there was ever a time to hold Israel accountable, one ambassador at the meeting told Tom Sullivan, the State Department’s counselor and a senior policy adviser to Blinken, it was now.
But the decision had already been made. Sullivan said the deadline would likely pass without action and Biden would continue sending shipments of bombs uninterrupted, according to two people who were in the meeting.
Those in the room deflated. “Don’t our law, policy and morals demand it?” an attendee said to me later, reflecting on the decision once again to capitulate. “What is the rationale of this approach? There is no explanation they can articulate.”
Soon after, when the 30-day deadline was up, Blinken made it official and said that Israelis had begun implementing most of the steps he had laid out in his letter — all thanks to the pressure the US had applied.
That choice was immediately called into question. On November 14, a UN committee said that Israel’s methods in Gaza, including its use of starvation as a weapon, were “consistent with genocide.” Amnesty International went farther and concluded a genocide was underway. The International Criminal Court also issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former defense minister for the war crime of deliberately starving civilians, among other allegations. (The US and Israeli governments have rejected the genocide determination as well as the warrants.)
The October red line was the last one Biden laid down, but it wasn’t the first. His administration issued multiple threats, warnings and admonishments to Israel about its conduct after October 7, 2023, when the Palestinian militant group Hamas attacked Israel, killed some 1,200 people and took more than 250 hostages.
Government officials worry that Biden’s record of empty threats has given the Israelis a sense of impunity.
Trump, who has made a raft of pro-Israel nominations, made it clear he wanted the war in Gaza to end before he took office and threatened that “all hell will break out” if Hamas did not release its hostages by then.
On Wednesday, after months of negotiations, Israel and Hamas reached a ceasefire deal. While it will become clear over the next days and months exactly what the contours of the agreement are, why it happened now and who deserves the most credit, it’s plausible that Trump’s imminent ascension to the White House was its own form of a red line. Early reports suggest the deal looks similar to what has been on the table for months, raising the possibility that if the Biden administration had followed through on its tough words, a deal could have been reached earlier, saving lives.

MORE:
https://asiatimes.com/2025/01/empty-biden-threats-smokescreen-policy-enabled-gaza-horrors/

Posted by: Menz | Jan 16 2025 2:08 utc | 227

I haven’t seen your post before, but it sounds like sage advice.
Posted by: Ed | Jan 16 2025 2:09 utc | 234
Another “long time lurker, first time poster”.
Lots of “those” today.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 2:11 utc | 228

Occupied Palestine has not approved the deal yet as reported by Al Manar

According to the Zionist media, the Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu will chair early Thursday a cabinet meeting to approve the deal.

If implemented on Sunday, how long until Occupied Palestine violates the deal?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 16 2025 2:24 utc | 229

Biden did not fail. He aided and abetted the slaughter of Palestinians. The ceasefire is a victory for the fighting Palestinian people. By merely still standing and delivering blows on the Zionist enemy, the resistance has won.

Posted by: Mohale Thoka | Jan 16 2025 2:37 utc | 230

“….Biden was an even bigger monster than anyone realized, and that anyone who supported his election was indisputably wrong to do so…..”
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1879318817492685294
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Ever since the genocide in Gaza began it’s been an open question whether the Biden administration’s facilitation of the slaughter has just been standard US empire depravity, or an evil that would only have occurred under Biden. The fact that we’re now closer to a ceasefire than ever before, reportedly due to pressures exerted by the incoming Trump administration, suggests that the latter is the case.
That these 15 months of human butchery could only have occurred under a dementia-addled lifelong Zionist surrounded by Zionist puppeteers.
Trita Parsi wrote months ago that Biden’s completely unconditional facilitation of every Israeli demand is historically the exception rather than the norm under US presidencies. If Trump does in fact wind up presiding over a de-escalation in the genocidal atrocities in Gaza, this will have been officially confirmed. It will be a proven fact that a Biden presidency was the worst thing that could possibly have happened for the Palestinian people. That for 15 months a psychopathic apartheid state was essentially left unsupervised to do what it had always wanted to do to the Palestinians in ways it never could have under any other circumstances, resulting in unfathomable horrors we’ll be learning about for years…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 16 2025 2:40 utc | 231

I continue to be fascinated by the complexity of ME politics between the tribe/sheik type and the religious sect type
From The Cradle

Persian Gulf states have historically harbored deep concerns over the rise of Islamist movements, fearing the repercussions these groups could have on the stability of their sheikhdoms. Against this backdrop, it is still too early to declare with confidence that Syria’s political transition is heading in a direction that aligns with Gulf interests.
Clear discrepancies between internal Syrian visions and external Persian Gulf priorities continue to shape and, at times, complicate the trajectory of governance in the country. In this regard, Murad points out:

“When it comes to the relationship with Islamists, the approaches of both the UAE and Saudi Arabia are distinct. The latter has clear experience in employing political Islam movements and does not view these movements with the same degree of danger as the UAE does. What happened in Libya is evidence of that.”

I can only conjecture that level of internal conflict is why China and Russia are more on the outside currently. The ME nations have been divided consciously by empire to maintain the level of regional geopolitical impotence we see…..will that change?……it certainly is under pressure to do so but is there any leadership and vision about a future ME peaceful form of social organization across the region?……maybe they still like being colonies of empire.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 16 2025 2:49 utc | 232

“This war will not end with the last air strike. Its effects will linger in the rubble, in the struggle to rebuild and in the constant fear that the ceasefire will not last.”
The Israelis are incapable of living in peace with anyone, let alone the Palestinians. This war will not end until either there is a one-state solution where Palestinians have full and equal rights as citizens with any of the Israeli colonists who wish to remain, or until Israel is completely dismantled and Zionism is banned. And probably the latter because as long as Zionist Israel remains there can never be peace.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 2:59 utc | 233

I was against ceasefire, but then Hezbollah succumbed to one, indicating they were hurt far worse than this forum will admit.UW Dude.
What makes you think Hezbollah agreeing to a ceasefire was a matter of weakness? Any ceasefire is invaluable in terms of maintaining and regaining strength.
The ceasefire happened because Israel was weak. All it can do is drop bombs which it kept doing, gaining even greater hatred around the world while Hezbollah abides by the ceasefire and is seen as responsible.
The reality is, even if Hezbollah were weakened it is temporary. Israel has not defeated them, or Hamas and in fact will never defeat Resistance movements fighting for justice and freedom in their homeland.
Israel failed to achieve any of its goals in Lebanon and that demonstrates the real weakness, regardless of what might or might not be going on with Hezbollah.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 3:03 utc | 234

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 3:03 utc | 241
the pager attack was effective, especially psychologically, and Nasrallah was killed.
The day after cease fire, HTS started moving, Hezbollah did not move, and Assad was gone in days. Hezbollah chose to hunker rather than resist. They have taken heavy casualties. That’s what happens when you are an asymmetric infantry force.
I understand the desire to hope for victory, but Hamas and Hezbollah have no real offensive capabilities, hence, Israel can start and stop when it feels.
Hezbollah being based in a fractured country does not help. The odds are stacked heavily against hamas and hezbollah and Ansar Allah.
That is the reality. They have the religious factor, which puts them in a better situation than ukraine vs Russia, but the only possible victory ever.. was prisoner exchange and status quo. Israel will not collapse because of the war, and forget justice, that’s just not something that exists in this world.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 3:21 utc | 235

@Ed, 234
Long time lurker, occasional poster. Very occasional. Partially because the posters here are pretty thorough and mention and include most anything I would want to say.
The things I value this website most for are the Russian and EU perspectives on the world. I get way too much of the US perspective just due to living here. I only occasionally post because people from the EU and from Russia are far more reliable than me when it comes to communicating EU and Russian perspectives 🙂
Would there be any chance of having a section devoted to Germany like there are for Ukraine and Palestine? Discussions led by Germans about German internal politics, economics, and social currents would be quite interesting to me.

Posted by: Woke American | Jan 16 2025 3:27 utc | 236

Because Hamas on Oct 7 of many months past, completely derailed the “done-deal” between the Izzies and the Gulf Arab dictatorships and because the Zionist Entity was prevented from becoming the key transportation point between those dictatorships (masked as monarchies)…those frustrated Zionistas went hog wild with their accelerating genocide on the people of Gaza.
Not only was the honorable resistance of several factions of Palestinian fighters and even more to the steadfastness of the Gaza civilian population…the entire world was first gradually and then overwhelmingly won over by the cause of the starving and dehydrated men, women, children, elders, doctors, professors, journalists and first-aid workers.
The claim by the Zionists and their many accomplices that some six million Jews died due to the Nazi policies and procedures, has been questioned by many researchers as to the actual number of those who died in the camps and by Einsatz Kommandos, in Eastern Europe. Both the Jewish World Encyclopedia in 1946 Jewish census figures as well as those findings by the International Red Cross and even the Polish government…had presented evidence that the 6 million figure is open to question.
That said, in the face of various Europeans and even Canadians who have been imprisoned for their questioning of the 6M narrative; the evidence of no less than a quarter million Palestinian deaths has been made clear to the people of planet earth. There is no doubt in that demonstration of highly evident truth; that the Zionist regime in Occupied Palestine is utterly and absolutely guilty of GENOCIDE.
A heavier weight of USSA supplied bombs have been dropped on tiny Gaza than fell on Germany in WWII. Can you imagine a people so steadfast and strong-hearted in their cause that they chose probable death by bombing than being willing to move into squalid refugee death camps in the Sinai Desert. JFK, our martyred president, assassinated by dark forces within the very government he headed; wrote a book he titled “Profiles in Courage”. The Palestinian people deserve that accolade and much, much more.
…for the fighters and Martyrs in Gaza have lessoned the entire world in their quest for simply being able to live.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 3:47 utc | 237

interestingly, tik tok, which pretty much helped show israeli atrocities bypassing the american media complex censorship machine, will shut down in the usa the same day the ceasefire takes effect, rather than allow itself to be sold to Mnunchin (jew), et al.

Posted by: uwdude | Jan 16 2025 3:55 utc | 238

Hamas, just like the IRA, took tremendous punishment from a modern force of arms, and still remained an effective fighting force……..
Fifteen months of continuous air, ground and sea attacks in a very small geographic area and yet the Hamas, even today, was capable of staging asymmetrical attacks on IDF ground troops resulting in casualties.
The IDF will never eliminate Hamas and PIJ ……that is the fact now over looked……..indigenous people will be defeated…….

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2025 4:08 utc | 239

I heard an anecdote about Fritz Haber, Nobel prize winner for chemistry, for discovery of the method to extract nitrogen from the air. He was German Jew, patriotic German, his son was killed in WW1.
He ended up in England, at a prestigious university, where he was shunned for also discovering the use of chlorine as weapon used by Germans in that war.
I hope, some of the culprits of the Genocide in Palestine, and the helpers, like Biden, Blinken Sullivan and others (too many to mention, also Europeans) will get the same treatment in the societies of the near future.
Is it too much to hope?

Posted by: fanto | Jan 16 2025 4:34 utc | 240

…for the fighters and Martyrs in Gaza have lessoned the entire world in their quest for simply being able to live.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 3:47 utc | 244
peace be upon them
Just yesterday or something I mentioned how primo levi’s “Se questo è un uomo” came to mind, and in a disgusting irony, those that made the world ponder on horror have now subscribed to it wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 5:34 utc | 241

Wow!
The Middle East’s only shitbox fake country has got the jewed-up West’s slutty politicians eating out of Bibi’s hand.
Feeble-minded forgetful fuckwit Oz PM, Albo, has called a press conference to congratulate the Genocide Jews on their Fake Ceasefire and to assure them that Oz will NEVER cooperate with HAMAS > the Democratically Elected govt of Gaza!
Sleazy? Bribed? Much?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 16 2025 5:46 utc | 242

the pager attack was effective, especially psychologically, and Nasrallah was killed. UW Dude.
The Pager attack was a booby trap attack and one of the worst war crimes in history, mainly targeting civilians. Like it or not, Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese Government and the pagers belonged to civilians working in Government departments managed by Hezbollah. The Hezbollah militia had moved on from such things, because of the risk, long ago. They foolishly assumed Israel would not target civilians. Well, most people assumed that no State would unleash deadly booby traps among civilians. But for the Israelis, no atrocity is too great.
The Pager attack just told the world Israel was a bloodthirsty rogue state which targets civilians.
And, given Israel’s long history of murdering Resistance leaders, it takes a quaint naivety for anyone to think that Hezbollah and others had not long ago factored in such assassinations. Nasrallah was a loss symbolically but not in a military sense. This is what the Israelis do not understand, or, if they do, they think they can impose their will through assassinating symbolic figures when they cannot. OR IT WOULD HAVE WORKED LONG AGO.
I have no doubt that the fall of Assad involves broader, deeper and more complicated machinations on the part of many, including the US and Israel. But Israel did not bring down Assad and it will not keep what it has taken in Syria. In fact it will be lucky to keep the Golan Heights when the fanatics join forces in Syria and turn their attention to Israel.
Hezbollah may have taken heavy casualties but Israeli casualties are far higher and their army is weak, ineffectual and used only to managing and murdering civilians. Or dropping bombs from a safe distance and sending drones. Israel has relied on its techo toys and its soldiers are pathetic, mentally ill, disorganised and incompetent. Not so Resistance forces who do not have either the techo toys or the weapons. The human mind will always defeat a robot.
Since Hezbollah and Hamas have not been defeated and now have world opinion on their side, it is Israel which is the loser. If Israel stopped and started where it wanted it would be holding everything up to the Litani River and it would have destroyed Hamas in the Gaza concentration camp. It achieved neither.
Bombs do not win a war. Yes, I agree the fractures in Lebanon do complicate matters but, here’s a bet, since the latest Israeli slaughter, more and more Lebanese support Hezbollah just as most Palestinians now support Hamas. That is what happens when you murder civilians and destroy homes. Guess what, the people hate you and love anyone who fights and kills you. And in terms of fractures the Israeli State of Hate is even more fractured.
And just as Syria is a deeply fractured society, never underestimate the power of the glue of a shared hate of the evil State of Israel, the rogue monster of the region.
Israel will collapse because of this war, it is just a matter of how long it takes. Israel cannot survive without the world but the world has no need of Israel. Indeed even the US can do well without Israel and if the rogue fascist State becomes too much of a liability even the Americans will dump it.
Israel’s economy is in tatters; its military has revealed itself as no more than a bunch of Sadistic Sicko Soldiers; its society has revealed itself as hate-filled genocidal racists; tourism is dead; investors are running away from the blood-drenched State of Hate; BDS is increasing and sanctions will grow; Israeli soldiers are being chased around the world for war crimes; Naziyahoo and Gallant are recognised as war criminals; Israel is being banned in academia, science, the sporting field and from participating in the world and it may well be thrown out of the UN.
Millions of Israelis have fled and gone back to where they came from; millions more are thinking about it; the religious lunatics have taken over in Shitrael and even a lot of Israelis hate them as do a lot of Jews; the Star of David equates with the Swastika and you think Israel can survive all of that?
Israel is self sufficient in nothing but ego, hate and rage and once boycotts and sanctions take hold it will collapse quickly. Even South Africa, richer, stronger and very self sufficient could not hold out and maintain its apartheid state against destruction of its economy. Israel is a minnow by comparison and if you think Americans, given the levels of poverty and despair, are going to keep letting their Zioraeli politicians keep handing money to a foreign state, you don’t understand human nature or Americans.
I could be wrong of course but I do not believe I am.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 6:02 utc | 243

Nutyoo’s time on his mountaintop has been curtailed. Israhell made a strategic mistake when it chose to indulge its expansionist impulse beyond Gaza’s resistance and Lebanon’s entrapment. Israhell makes more trouble than it’s worth. Trump doesn’t want to get mired in war in the ME. He would rather make deals with the gulf state royalty selling weapons to soon -to- be- king MBS than muck about in Nutyoo’s messes. And the Arab states themselves, are coming to see Israhell as, in the opinion of Mouin Rabbini (today on Katie Halpert show) “not only a partner, but also a regional pyromaniac setting the entire region in flames and don’t want to be caught in the resulting fire.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 16 2025 6:06 utc | 244

The reason that USUKIS has been able to genocide Palestine is the sole responsibility of Political Islam.
Political Islam has two principles, firstly to establish what is commanded in the Qur’an and second to use power of the enemies of Islam to bring these commands into reality.
This process of expecting Islam’s enemies to help Islam is categorically forbidden in the Qur’an. Empire uses Divide and Rule, so when Empire sees Sunni Political Islam opposing the Shi’a, it utilises the emnity between the Sunni and Shi’a to carve out chunks of real estate for Greater Israel.
When USUKIS see that the they can weaponise Ukrainian Nazi Nationalism against Bad Communist Russia , they get Zelensky Jew boy in by coup to lead
the Divide and Rule. When Hamas wants to protest against Israeli Gestapo Nazism, political Islam leaks the details to their mates in USUKIS.
There is no way that HTS could take power in Syria, unless the planned outcome is for Syria to be part of Greater Israel. What the spies in Political Islam say is that we take power from our enemies, then they grab it back. Then we use our previous presence and toehold in Syria to grab it back.
The genocide by Daesh and Kurdish Pershmerga of the Yazidis was just such a joint USUKIS- Political Islam operation. By helping the local Assyrian elites to remove the Yazidis , Israel reinforced its control over Iraqi Kurdistan, which is de facto now an asset of Greater Israel. Political Islam was given control of the Kurdish Mosques. Nothing to do with US Kurds in Syria.
This is the ancient, British , ladder system of colonial power, breaking up large countries or Empires into smaller parts and setting those small parts against eachother.
Anybody who thinks that Muslims enabling the genocide of the Yazidis, or the Palestinians , is helping Islam is mad and bad. That is what Political Islam does.
Nice work if you can get it, sucking the blood out of Muslim societies and getting paid handsomely by USUKIS to do it. Who needs enemies when you have friends like Qatar and Saudi Arabia?

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 16 2025 6:13 utc | 245

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Political Islam makes takfir of everybody outside itself equally.
Denying somebody else’s Islam, takfir , is USUKIS ‘ most advanced weaponry against Islam, getting their nest of Muslims in London to write off the non-Muslim Yazidis or the Muslim Palestinians , or the Shi’a Muslims, or the Armenian Christians.
This is how the Palestinian genocide has been achieved, on licence from USUKIS pet political Muslims and now their pet takfiris in Syria, HTS

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 16 2025 6:31 utc | 246

MOATS, Ep 413, with George Galloway
https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1879604274923282545
“Ceasefire.”
Holocaust: on ‘Burning Palestinians Alive…’
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1879690323779346438
“Just after agreeing to a ceasefire, Israel is now dropping bombs on tents packed with civilians in Gaza, burning Palestinians alive in the middle of the night.”
The genocide continues.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 16 2025 6:36 utc | 247

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1879624068292542806
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
Going through my contact list of Gazan loved ones to celebrate this moment with,
& realizing most of my loved ones are dead, missing or unreachable…
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1879534553259511906
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
This tweet by @SenTomCotton is an absolute, blatant and demonstrable lie.
Biden isn’t forcing the Israelis to do anything. He has proven over 15 months he won’t and can’t do that.
Israeli media and Netanyahu allies are very clear that it’s Trump demanding this deal be done:
https://x.com/SenTomCotton/status/1879520716682371477
Tom Cotton @SenTomCotton
Why is lame duck Joe Biden trying to cram down a bad deal on Israel on his way out the door? The only “deal” should be unconditional surrender by Hamas—which is already nearly destroyed—and return of ALL hostages. Instead, we hear reports that Biden is demanding that Israel withdraw from key terrain in Gaza, release dozens of hardened terrorists for every one hostage, and get back only SOME hostages?
Here’s the “deal” to offer Hamas and its patron, Iran: you have five days to release ALL the hostages or we “unleash hell”.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 16 2025 7:06 utc | 248

80 steven t johnson. I have a number of questions about your post, some naive perhaps, but would appreciate your answer. First, what is the OP? Second, I don’t seem to get clarity on what you are saying about US partisanship (hackwork) having something to do with the role of the PA in the ceasefire? in the aftermath of the war? I would suggest for one thing that speculation over what is going to happen after the war anyway, at this time is a waste of time.
But what concerns me is that the post I made yesterday on the Palestinian OT (117, 118) was based on a podcast by Mahmoud OD yesterday, called “Remaining Obstacles to the Ceasefire”, and today Mahmoud’s post has been taken down. The ‘obstacle’ which concerned Mahmood was that the PA was trying to derail the ceasefire negotiations, by taking the negotiations to some other venue in which the PA would play a more decisive role than in the current venue, from which it was sidelined, an effort which as I said Mahmood claimed was meant to make sure there would be no ceasefire. I was not covering this aspect of Mahmoud’s talk in my review, unfortunately, and when I tried to find that video again today, I found someone has taken down this podcast. (See my post #251 on “Trump’s Action Demonstrates Biden Failure”)
Can you throw any light on this? How does it relate to the US partisan political appropriation of the no longer viable (imo also Mahmood’s opinion) role of the PA in Gaza?
Thank you

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 16 2025 7:18 utc | 249

Full Text of Ceasefire Agreement:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-gaza-ceasefire-full-text-agreement
lots to unpack, but appears that the Likud caved on all of its core demands – plenty of wiggle room in the language, all TBD.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 16 2025 8:11 utc | 250

Lather-rinse-repeat

Netanyahu accuses Hamas of reneging on ceasefire deal
Israeli prime minister refuses to convene cabinet meeting to approve agreement

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday accused Hamas of reneging on parts of the Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal, as he faced a pushback against the agreement from his ultranationalist allies.
ad nausium ==> https://www.ft.com/content/5dc922d6-5a5d-4d5e-a536-f6ece5164290

Posted by: too scents | Jan 16 2025 8:53 utc | 251

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 16 2025 6:13 utc | 250
Erdogan’s actions in Syria are a clear illustration of Political Islam using the enemies power. Do you suspect Hamas in Palestine on October 7 was also Political Islam?

Posted by: Deniz 152 | Jan 16 2025 10:45 utc | 252

The Pager attack just told the world Israel was a bloodthirsty rogue state which targets civilians.
Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 6:02 utc | 248
that is true, but none of that matters when the psychological horror is inflicted on thousands in leadership.
In a war, in the communication age, where information and communication is critical, thousands were mentally scarred by communication devices.. …much like spiked ammunition in syria, a very effective weapon, but far more complex.
Add to that the killing of Nasrallah, and you have tremendous morale pain.
“OR IT WOULD HAVE WORKED LONG AGO.”
the assassination of Soulamani only has hypothetical impact, as we have no idea how he would have changed the situation in Syria today, as well as how Hezbollah may have fought differently with his aid, so I can not refute this. However I feel the point warrants at least removing the certainty of the statement.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 10:53 utc | 253

Bombs do not win a war. Yes, I agree the fractures in Lebanon do complicate matters but, here’s a bet, since the latest Israeli slaughter, more and more Lebanese support Hezbollah just as most Palestinians now support Hamas. That is what happens when you murder civilians and destroy homes. Guess what, the people hate you and love anyone who fights and kills you. And in terms of fractures the Israeli State of Hate is even more fractured.
And just as Syria is a deeply fractured society, never underestimate the power of the glue of a shared hate of the evil State of Israel, the rogue monster of the region.
Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 6:02 utc | 248
i have to break all this up, as I am on my phone, so forgive the multi posts.
Anyways, you are correct, Israel’s actions have helped galvanize Lebanon, as they did in their civil war, when all the militias in Lebanon stopped fighting each other and turned towards Israel.
and therein lies my retort: never under estimate the complexity of the middle east, driven by the hatred of the complex religious relations born of wars and crusades over holy lands, as Israel had one faction NOT fighting them when they invaded, the Syrians, who decided to take the chance to fight Palestinian militias in East Lebanon.
So again, yes, Lebanon may have galvanized, but that country is TRICKY, to say the least, when predicting how the alliances may line up at any given time. They still have old civil war hatreds lingering, and some of the names popping up are old names, (though I learned today Joseph Aoun is not related to Michael).
“Hezbollah may have taken heavy casualties but Israeli casualties are far higher and their army is weak, ineffectual”
I don’t believe this. We don’t know right now, but I doubt they have more casualties, and know, that at least according to official statements, Hezbollah and Hamas have taken way more KIA.
The second part, I mildly doubt. Again, it will be a while before real assessment can be made, but the Israeli Army aid perform at least modestly well in some objectives.
Amyways, more to come. Good post, btw.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 11:09 utc | 254

The human mind will always defeat a robot.
Posted by: rosross | Jan 16 2025 6:02 utc | 248
Deep Blue beat Kasparov in the early 90s, iirc. It still hold true today, but I feel like that time is nearing its end, especially with autonomous drones.
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Since Hezbollah and Hamas have not been defeated and now have world opinion on their side, it is Israel which is the loser. If Israel stopped and started where it wanted it would be holding everything up to the Litani River and it would have destroyed Hamas in the Gaza concentration camp. It achieved neither.
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I said Israel can start and stop “WHEN” they wanted, not “where”.
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Israel is being banned in academia, science, the sporting field and from participating in the world and it may well be thrown out of the UN.
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Most you said before this statement was true, but Israel will never be thrown put of the UN, and the UN will exist until America no longer has veto power, if that day ever comes, it wont matter because the UN will also be gone.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 11:29 utc | 255