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January 15, 2025
Preventing Peace With Russia Russia – By Sanctions And Kinetic Means

The U.S. and its NATO proxies are losing on the battle fields of Ukraine. The Biden administration, attempting to  'Trump proof', i.e. prolong, the conflict, is thus (again) trying to defeat Russia by targeting its economic means.

This predominantly by cutting the sales of Russian resources. That third parties, the buyers in need of those products, will also be hurt by this is not of concern but can be seen as an additional feature.

The new wave of measures started on January 1 with the blocking of the last pipeline through Ukraine from Russia to Europe:

President Volodymyr Zelensky said the move means Russia can no longer “earn billions on our blood”.

His energy minister, Herman Halushchenko, confirmed on Wednesday morning that Kyiv had stopped the gas flows “in the interest of national security”.

“This is a historic event,” he wrote on the social media platform Telegram. “Russia is losing markets and will incur financial losses.”

The deal had allowed for Russian gas to travel through Ukraine’s pipeline networks into European countries, primarily Hungary, Slovakia and Austria.

With the end of this pipeline Ukraine will lose $640 million rent per year. It will expect the Europeans to make up for this. At the same time Hungary, Slovakia and Austria will now have to pay significant higher prices for gas.

For Russia though the losses due to selling that gas through other channels, like the TurkStream pipelines, are marginal.

The next step followed last week with the announcement of additional sanctions:

The sanctions will cover two major Russian petroleum producers and exporters — Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas — both of which are involved in the export of liquified natural gas and efforts to expand the Russian energy sector into the Arctic. They are expected to cut off Moscow’s revenue stream to the tune of billions of dollars per month, putting new strain on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort against Ukraine.

Separately, the State Department will also block “two active liquefied natural gas projects, a large Russian oil project, and third-country entities supporting Russia’s energy exports” from access to the American financial system and add “numerous Russia-based oilfield service providers and senior officials of State Atomic Energy Corporation Rosatom” to its list of “designated entities” who are banned from the United States.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in a statement that the U.S. is “taking sweeping action against Russia’s key source of revenue for funding its brutal and illegal war against Ukraine.”

A second administration official who also briefed reporters on condition of anonymity said the new sanctions will target 183 maritime vessels that are understood to be part of Moscow’s “shadow fleet,” as well as “dozens” of oil traders and oil field services providers based in Russia.

These sanctions will increase the price of oil and gas for everyone.

A senior Biden administration official who briefed reporters on the move said the White House was choosing to impose the new sanctions just days before President Joe Biden leaves office because both oil markets and the American economy are “in a fundamentally better place” than they were at any other point during the war.

The coming price rise caused by these sanctions will thus be explained as a failure of Trump.

A day later Ukrainian forces attacked the compressor station on Russian ground that is feeding the TurkStream pipeline system:

On 11 January 2025, in an attempt to disrupt gas supplies to European countries, the Kiev's regime launched an attack by nine fixed-wing UAVs at the Russkaya Compressor Station near Gay-Kodzor (Krasnodar region), which ensures gas supply over the TurkStream pipeline.

While repelling the attack, air defence units shot down all UAVs.

Russian officials left no doubt of who is to hold responsible for this:

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov alleged at a news conference on Tuesday that Washington is encouraging “terrorist” attacks on his country’s energy infrastructure, and claimed there are plans to target TurkStream.

“The US does not tolerate competition in any sphere, including energy. They are recklessly endorsing terrorist activities aimed at undermining the energy stability of the European Union,” Lavrov said, according to Turkiye’s Anadolu news agency.

The pipeline is the last carrying Russian gas into the EU after Ukraine refused to renew a transit contract that expired at the end of 2024. The halt on that route has further disrupted EU unity on the war, with Slovakia claiming it will cause a crisis and threatening to block EU support for Kyiv.

The attack on TurkStream was followed two days later by another large scale assault on Russian oil infrastructure:

Ukraine struck several targets deep inside Russia on Tuesday in what it says is its "most massive" attack of the war so far.

Russia said it had shot down US-supplied Atacms missiles as well as UK-made Storm Shadow cruise missiles, and vowed to respond to the attack.

Strikes in the border region of Bryansk caused explosions at a refinery, ammunition depots and a chemical plant said to produce gunpowder and explosives, a Ukrainian security source told the BBC.

But Kyiv also struck far deeper into the country, with the General Staff claiming to have hit targets up to 1,100km (700 miles) from the border.

In the western region of Saratov, officials reported a "massive" drone attack.

Two industrial plants in the cities of Engels and Saratov were damaged, regional governor Roman Busargin wrote on Telegram.

Russia promptly promised to retaliate:

Last night, the AFU launched a missile strike at objects in Bryansk region by six U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, six UK-made Storm Shadow air-based cruise missiles, and 31 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles from the territory of Ukraine.

During the air defence battle, all air attack means were shot down by air defence crews. There were no casualties or wounded as a result of the attack.

In addition, two UK-made Storm Shadow air-based cruise missiles were shot down over the Black Sea waters.

These actions of the Kiev regime, supported by Western curators, will not go unanswered.

The answer came last night when a barrage of drones and missiles hit Ukrainian electricity and gas infrastructure. The  main target was Europe's biggest gas storage facility near Lviv in western Ukraine.


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Ukraine has little to win from waging an infrastructure war against Russia. But Zelensky as well as the U.S. 'war party' still hope to profit from it.

As Strana analyses (machine translation):

[I]n addition to the purely military aspect, these strikes also have an informational and political aspect. And it lies roughly on the same plane as allowing Western long-range weapons attacks on the Russian Federation, the murder of a Russian general and military-industrial complex figures, Vladimir Zelensky's policy against Vladimir Putin and his promise to "take revenge" on Russia even after the end of hostilities.

We have already written that all this is working to strengthen the position of the Russian "war party", which declares that "there is nothing to negotiate with Ukraine, this is a terrorist state that will always pose a threat to Russia, and therefore it must be destroyed. There is also nothing to negotiate with the West.

The goal of such statements and actions is to minimize the likelihood that Putin will find a common language with Donald Trump on a compromise basis in order to end the war on the front line in the near future.

The Ukrainian authorities do not want this option to end the war. …

To continue attacks which incite the Russian public against Ukraine is an additional method to make a peace agreement more unlikely.

The over arching aim of the Zelensky regime and the Biden administration is to prevent a peace agreement between the U.S. and Russia.

War will keep the money flowing to Zelensky's Ukraine. As long as Russian gas supplies can be kept from European markets the U.S. will profit from it. Europe's industry will falter while the U.S. military industrial complex can strive.

Comments

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 16 2025 7:58 utc | 197
Regarding the so called Jewish comedian..
Here are a few points to keep in mind:
When working as a comedian years ago he made fun of Jewish people a few times on his shows, with official protests from the Jewish authority in the country. Once he had to make a public apology following such an incident.
His Jewishness supposedly comes from his grand dad, which is strange in itself. He pretends the old man was named Samuel. But in fact his name was Simon as can be seen on his grave.
He also once said the old man brothers all died in the holocaust and another time said they died fighting in the war.
Funny how the comedian became Jewish when the country lost its Soviet structure and became a Jewish oligarchy..

Posted by: Steph | Jan 16 2025 9:38 utc | 201

Posted by: robin | Jan 16 2025 9:28 utc | 200
he said “embargo all trade” with BRICS, keyword being ALL. And he meant it, because the point of the post was to make a bunch of outlandish claims wrapped in intellectual word salad.
All his claims were just as wild, but I picked the most outrageous and easiest to unveil, because I dint care to spend my time, point by point, refuting a bunch of pointless claims.
Those posts, been gine a couple hours. Ya jus played yoself, dog.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 9:48 utc | 202

* The original posts appear to have been removed. Insofar as much of the rude responses are still here, I’m guessing the removal wasn’t done in the spirit of keeping the forum free of offensive posts? Copyright issues perhaps?
Posted by: robin | Jan 16 2025 9:28 utc | 200
No you missed Lavrovs Dog, and his 6 way sock account assault. I nailed him, then B nailed him, we are talking about 60 of his and all his sock account shit removed.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 9:51 utc | 203

Shooting from the hip as is usual for me – arostodemos you asked what fuels me ?
Tea by the pint in the morning, ale by the pint in the evening. 6 hours a day reading the contributions of the wise on the web. No TeeVee ( 6 years nearly now) no Moovies from the the deserved burnt cesspool… and homeopathic levels of clean rocky to aid meditation..
Ready. Let’s go , I don’t know where but as usual it starts with what has caught my eye over the last few hours of disturbed waking.
(DJ) – T minus 4.
Lol. Naming the Beasts and saying their marked muppets are not needed anymore – now if only he would do the same for his fellow travellers and influencers – the Aipac types – yup throw their flags out and round them up for deportation to where they really don’t want to be. The fake heaven surrounded by walls beyond which they conduct mass slaughter of native peoples, enslave the remainder and steal their resources – like always.
‘ — GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 — retweeted
Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
8h
JUST IN – Trump asks people who are recommending staffers for his incoming administration not to refer anyone who worked with Charles Koch, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, the Cheneys, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Mark Milly, James Mattis or Mark Esper.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhYJdDhbgAAqWjp.jpg
Jpg goes into more detail. ‘Bird brain Nikki for eg.
There will be spitting out of crushed coackroach laced coffees this morning in America!
The talk tough about China is curiously marching hand in hand with ‘hang- on! They don’t really hate Yankees at all; most look white ( even if they claim to be yellow ) ; Chinese users welcome the deluded self declared ‘refugees’ from TikTok to Redbook with delighted open arms and great English speaking skills; the Chinese eat well for very cheap; they aren’t obese from shit fast food; they get free health services etc
The jaws dropping by the Yankee Doodle grassroots is undoing all the propaganda by collective wastes mass media and social networks as … thin ice cracking underfoot on a pond …
As I said last night The Donald, as any potus has not been allowed to conduct foreign policy, since JFK at least and going back to Independence- unless the potus WAS the global robber barons loyal Boy. Like the Bush’s, Clinton’s and Obama (his house boy bring the soon to be forever forgotten Biden and should not be forgotten henchmen -Sullivan, Blinken,Kagans and the shapeshifters they obey!)
Does this make The Donald look tastefully trousered in public or will he also be shortly revealed as bare arsed as all others?
Clues are – belligerence about Nicaragua – which is a different kettle of fish than the bs Canada, Greenland smoke and mirrors.
And the lack of the Uber oligarchs in his list – Especially the RedShield tribe of khazars at the top of the Pirates pyramid and even the supposed ‘all American’ Rockefellers
https://www.business2community.com/business-pages/rothschild-family-net-worth
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family
Both the original Germanic dynasties btw! They have opaque finances and are never mentioned in the Rich lists of the msm they inevitably control through the labyrinthine secret holdings.
Drumpff is just another wind up soldier in their never ending Toy Story box.
That’ll do for now.
Last night I dreamnt of echelons of aircraft flying overhead and nuclear explosions in the skies looking northeast from London… it woke me up! I didn’t even need a piss!…must avoid falling asleep with scarey late night doom mongers
Have a good day barflies and host b.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 16 2025 10:59 utc | 204

Paranaense @ 116

Sure, Trump doesn’t care if he goes down in history as the reincarnated Hitler, as long as his name is in the history book somewhere, right?

Hitler never thought he was going to go down in history as “Hitler”, he thought he was going to go down in history as Alexander The Great or Augustus, Lee never imagined his ancestral estate would be turned into a vast military cemetery. They always start out blind, bold, and full of themselves.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 16 2025 11:01 utc | 205

“Seeing as its open season on ‘vargas’, I suggest we start referring to this poster as ‘arse gas’. Seems appropriate.”
Posted by: Kaiama | Jan 16 2025 11:35 utc | 206
I think ‘arse gas’ is a bit too ‘soft’ a moniker for vargas.
Many times after expelling ‘arse gas’ I feel better; however, after reading a vargas post I feel, ‘shitty’.
I do like, ‘vacuous vargas’?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 11:40 utc | 206

Dima says the West is gathering its troops, a major war is becoming more and more likely.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 11:48 utc | 207

Last night I dreamnt of echelons of aircraft flying overhead and nuclear explosions in the skies looking northeast from London… it woke me up! I didn’t even need a piss!…must avoid falling asleep with scarey late night doom mongers
Have a good day barflies and host b.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 16 2025 10:59 utc | 204
I have had about 20 nuclear war dreams in my life, and remember almost every one.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 11:49 utc | 208

, “Lee never imagined his ancestral estate would be turned into a vast military cemetery. They always start out blind, bold, and full of themselves
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 16 2025 11:01 utc | 205
Your TDS is appalling; the man gets a ceasefire in Gaza before obtaining office yet you still suffer too much from TDS to enjoy the peace.
And, you don’t now much about Arlington-in 1882 Lee’s son won $150,000 settlement from the US government stealing the property:
“The government appealed the verdict to the Supreme Court—which ruled for Lee again. On December 4, 1882, Associate Justice Samuel Freeman Miller, a Kentucky native appointed by President Lincoln, wrote for the 5 to 4 majority, holding that the 1864 tax sale had been unconstitutional and was therefore invalid.
The Lees had retaken Arlington.
This left few options for the federal government, which was now technically trespassing on private property. It could abandon an Army fort on the grounds, roust the residents of Freedmen’s Village, disinter almost 20,000 graves and vacate the property. Or it could buy the estate from Custis Lee—if he was willing to sell it.
He was. Both sides agreed on a price of $150,000, the property’s fair market value. Congress quickly appropriated the funds. Lee signed papers conveying the title on March 31, 1883, which placed federal ownership of Arlington beyond dispute. The man who formally accepted title to the property for the government was none other than Robert Todd Lincoln, secretary of war and son of the president so often bedeviled by Custis Lee’s father. If the sons of such adversaries could bury past arguments, perhaps there was hope for national reunion.” (1)
1.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-arlington-national-cemetery-came-to-be-145147007/

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 11:50 utc | 209

Dima says the West is gathering its troops, a major war is becoming more and more likely.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 11:48 utc | 208
there is another poster here, with your opinions, that often starts his post with that phrase.
It’s not Lavrovs Dog, though.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 11:56 utc | 210

This “Dima says” as an introduction has been around for over a year or more. It’s a kind of running gag, some people immediately jump on it …

Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 12:07 utc | 211

It’s a kind of running gag, some people immediately jump on it …
Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 12:07 utc | 212
As is the gag of a certain troll posting the exact same opinions, but with a sock accounts using French-y monikers, like Napoleon, or louis, or a traveller of some sort from gaul.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 12:17 utc | 212

To continue attacks which incite the Russian public against Ukraine is an additional method to make a peace agreement more unlikely.
Posted by b on January 15, 2025 at 15:44 UTC | Permalink
But apparently the Russian public does not care about the little smo at all. Not surprising, when the political and military leadership barely cares or are so afraid of Nato they can’t even hit a low level proxy.
Has anyone seen photos from Yemen with people in support of Gaza? Compare those numbers with Russians in support of smo. It’s true that since the terrorist attack at the mall public gatherings were banned and I don’t know if they are allowed today, but before that no one cared or those who spoke against Nazi “brothers” were labeled extremists. My bet would be the large majority in Russia won’t have a problem if Putin does another “gesture of goodwill”. They either don’t care, love Nato, want their properties in London or simply to vacation in France or Greece. If he doesn’t do it, there are no guarantees the next president won’t do it, there is no long term strategy in Russia. Remember how Medvedev solved the ~40 year Barents sea dispute with his buddy Schtolty? He simply gave the sea for free, with tens of billions in resources “discovered” shortly after. Trumpy should simply make an offer for Ukr and Crimea

Posted by: rk | Jan 16 2025 12:19 utc | 213

Good morning bar.
Yesterday in this thread , @185 , I presented a couple of numbers of exchanged RF POW.
Then used a correction for the Kursk conscripts and another that I had already explained when developing the marines vs grunts model.
Anyway, does anyone have a list of all POW exchanges (with numbers) or knows where I could find it?
Would like to test on an even finer detail the AFU acquisition price of 1.250 casualties per POW (excluding Kursk conscripts)
Thank you

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:21 utc | 214

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 21:01 utc | 100
Yes. Those are more indications that Trump is pulling away from the madness.
It won’t be done very well. The pressures on him, electoral and interest groups, are enormous. But it’s possible it will be done.
Doesn’t seem likely in Europe though. The Garden’s in for a long hard bitter Cold War II.

Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 16 2025 12:25 utc | 215

Not surprising, when the political and military leadership barely cares or are so afraid of Nato they can’t even hit a low level proxy.
Posted by: rk | Jan 16 2025 12:19 utc | 214
Oh, i thought everyone knew Ukraine was a low level proxy of Ukraine.
Kind of like when you forgot Russia has had Crimea for eight years now.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 12:26 utc | 216

Not surprising, when the political and military leadership barely cares or are so afraid of Nato they can’t even hit a low level proxy.
Posted by: rk | Jan 16 2025 12:19 utc | 214
Oh, i thought everyone knew Ukraine was a low level proxy of NATO.
Kind of like when you forgot Russia has had Crimea for eight years now.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 12:28 utc | 217

DunGroanin@1059 Jan 16
Thanks for the response on what keeps you going. Just in process of finishing a large mug of Lipton’s Yellow Label and NOT from bags, rather a stellar scoop of loose leaf. Breakfast time comes and then a strong cup of coffee. Later in day something a bit smoother such as either green with honey, cinnamon and lemon juice or perhaps a Kunming or Jasmine.
Yeah, guess I’m a somewhat rare Yank, particularly as a Midwesterner.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:32 utc | 218

Yes. Those are more indications that Trump is pulling away from the madness.
It won’t be done very well. The pressures on him, electoral and interest groups, are enormous. But it’s possible it will be done.
Doesn’t seem likely in Europe though. The Garden’s in for a long hard bitter Cold War II.
Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 16 2025 12:25 utc | 216
Yes, Rubio’s hearing, better quote a bit when the original is 2 page deep.
As I mentioned elsewhere, if Europe stays cold it’s already a good scenario. Will repeat , now for the cold Europe part, that I’ll take it as a win.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:37 utc | 219

Canuck@1150 Jan 16
For those who have not caught up with the U$$A inflation rate, $150,000 in 1883 value; today’s equivalte would be in the range of $4.5 million in green frogskins….as per the descriptive term coined by the Lakota sage, Black Elk.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:38 utc | 220

The Lord Haw, Haw of the bully boys club Nato – is trying to frighten the natives.
“NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte has called on members of the US-led military bloc to adopt a “wartime mindset” and significantly increase defense spending, citing supposed threats from Russia and other nations.
The bloc’s “future security is at stake,” Rutte claimed in his opening remarks at a meeting of the Military Committee in Chiefs of Defense in Brussels on Wednesday. He accused Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran of attempting to “weaken our democracies and chip away at our freedom.”
“To prevent war, we need to prepare for it. It is time to shift to a wartime mindset,” Rutte asserted, urging NATO states to fund “more and better defense capabilities.””
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 15 2025 19:34 utc | 78
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Rutte and anything NATO says are not getting much play these days. Jens Stoltenberg managed to intrude on the news cycle.
What is going on? The slow decline of NATO?

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 16 2025 12:44 utc | 221

UWDude@1156 Jan 16
My question is simple: What troops? Which nations would actually sacrifice them? With the exception of their Foreign Legion; Macaroni’s boys might prefer to overthrow the Rottenchild controlled regime. Scholtz would tremble and state that he would need to talk it over with coalition partners. Italy would claim that they would be essential to deal with illegal migrants.
Austria, Hungary and Slovakia would more politely say “fuck off!”. Romanian forces would join the hundred thousand protesters. Perhaps a few thousands of the more retrogressive Polaks would agree to the terms…but if Moscow even hinted at Warsaw getting back Galicia, they might instead parade with flowers in their caps and say a few “Hail Marys”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:45 utc | 222

UWdude@1217 Jan 16
The gall of that Gaul.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:47 utc | 223

Last night I dreamnt of echelons of aircraft flying overhead and nuclear explosions in the skies looking northeast from London… it woke me up! I didn’t even need a piss!…must avoid falling asleep with scarey late night doom mongers
Have a good day barflies and host b.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 16 2025 10:59 utc | 204
Just to show how old we are, planes won’t have much to play when nukes fly (by missiles almost exclusively )
Good day indeed, as Europe comes to its senses and replies to z’s request for boots on the ground “testicles they cry!” Full participation but we’re not entering there 😉
https://tass.com/world/1900043

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:49 utc | 224

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:38 utc | 221
You are good with math-$150k American is worth today:
“$150,000 in 1883 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $4,685,539.60 today, an increase of $4,535,539.60 over 142 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.45% per year between 1883 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 3,023.69%.”

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 12:56 utc | 225

Canuck@1150 Jan 16
For those who have not caught up with the U$$A inflation rate, $150,000 in 1883 value; today’s equivalte would be in the range of $4.5 million in green frogskins….as per the descriptive term coined by the Lakota sage, Black Elk.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:38 utc | 221
Sorry, but 150.000 gold usd (any year until 1933) would be over 40 million
Even just on gold to gold (and it’s manipulated to keep it down) it would amount to 20 million (near 7.250 oz)
Don’t let fake inflation numbers fool you

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:59 utc | 226

So, General Mark Milley poses for eternity with a map of the Great Ol’ Ukrainian Summer Counter-Offensive of 2023 (GOUSCO23) as his greatest achievement. Losers are now proud of their losing. See:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-fools-war-useful-idiots-at-the
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 16 2025 7:46 utc | 195
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Ah, but there you’re mistaken. Anything that ensures further contracts for the American MIC is a great Pentagon victory!

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 16 2025 13:04 utc | 227

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2025 12:45 utc | 223
of course. The statement was pure alarmist stupidity, as is every post he makes.
As i said before, I dont know who Dima is, but he must be a blithering retard saying dumb shit every day for click bait.
I can Dima imagine must be one of those youtubers who makes stupid faces for the cover picture, and video titles about armies being “absolutely destroyed” or making “critical blunders” with question marks at the end.
(trying rp on the rt)

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 13:05 utc | 228

India, the main importer and distributor of Russian oil, has stopped all imports.
Gazprom and Rosneft are laying off hundreds of employees.
Sanctions, as it was said, are like a very slow, but mortal poison.
Russia’s economy is entering the ‘Dead Man Walking’ phase

Posted by: Louis | Jan 16 2025 13:10 utc | 229

India, the main importer and distributor of Russian oil, has stopped all imports.
Posted by: Louis | Jan 16 2025 13:10 utc | 230
1: no it hasnt
2. China is the largest importer of Russian oil.
3. i am sure your next sock account post will be just as stupid, and just as grossly factually incorrect, with stupid assertions piled on top.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 13:25 utc | 230

India, the main importer and distributor of Russian oil, has stopped all imports.
Gazprom and Rosneft are laying off hundreds of employees.
Sanctions, as it was said, are like a very slow, but mortal poison.
Russia’s economy is entering the ‘Dead Man Walking’ phase
Posted by: Louis | Jan 16 2025 13:10 utc | 230
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If that were the case?
The media in the Western bubble would be bombarding us with it 24/7 and selling it as a GREAT success of the sanctions.
Up until today at around 2pm, not a word about it on any channel in Western Europe.
Incidentally, at least in Germany, petrol prices would immediately shoot through the roof because India has become the first supplier of petrol.
There is nothing about this on Indian press sites.

Posted by: ossi | Jan 16 2025 13:28 utc | 231

UK Starmer complete sucker idiot in Ukraine to sign a 100year support Agreement..investment…defence..make sure Ukr is in strongest position in 2025 etc.

Posted by: Jo | Jan 16 2025 13:30 utc | 232

@222
Rutte and anything NATO says are not getting much play these days. Jens Stoltenberg managed to intrude on the news cycle.
Have been following rightwing racist Dutch PM for over 15 years … a warmonger-in-chief … anti-Russia propagandist after signing the Gasunie – Gazprom deal together with Angela Merkel …
Presently delegated the airwaves to Admiral Rob Bauer and former NATO military commander Philip Breedlove … my personal take on Mark, he will soon be invited to the Trump White House for a new job description … less warmongering, more sales for Lockheed – Raytheon – etc. … assure the 5% GDP levy for “partner” states of NATO.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 16 2025 13:42 utc | 233

Canuck Don’t let fake inflation numbers fool you
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:59 utc | 227
He fools himself every day with his ideological belief system Newbie. Hasn’t won any monetary system debate on here for years.
The Gold Standard Mostly Ended in 1933-34
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGP1Q7PG_4
A Gold Standard Is Extremely Wasteful
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aHcNvG34Q6Q
The Dollar’s Value Dropped 95% Since 1900…But Standard of Living Rose 1000%
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WqxB775qnP4
Those 3 videos summarise Why of course the BRICS report and the Kazan declaration totally ignored the gold bugs. Firmly locked them away again in their ideological box to be completely ignored.
They promise to fix it but don’t understand how anything works in the real world. That is sociopathic at best or psychopathic at worst depending how you look at it.
The goldbugs are experts in their field at juggling fruit. They love nothing better than comparing Apple’s with oranges on a daily basis.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 16 2025 13:53 utc | 234

“Canuck Don’t let fake inflation numbers fool you..”
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:59 utc | 227
You are correct, I don’t; that’s the official inflation number, but in reality it would be much , much more-that’ why I use John Williams (1) real numbers usually (1).
1. https://www.shadowstats.com/

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:01 utc | 235

Anyway, does anyone have a list of all POW exchanges (with numbers) or knows where I could find it?
Would like to test on an even finer detail the AFU acquisition price of 1.250 casualties per POW (excluding Kursk conscripts)
Thank you
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:21 utc | 214
I know, not very polite quoting oneself, but it’s for an update.
Found this june 2022 article mentioning a first 144 POW exchange
https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2022/06/putin-authorized-massive-pow-swap-yesterday-russia-2689308.html
As I mentioned, the acquisition cost would be 1.250 AFU casualties per RF POW
144 X 1.250 = 180.000 AFU casualties
Assuming the exchange had to be prepared, I’ll take the marines vs grunts for end of may 20222
186.000 AFU cumulative casualties there.
Still haven’t adjusted the 2022/2023 split so… close enough.
Milites, when you show up please take a look at the previous posts on the subject, I might have something near the 70% mark and 1.4 correction on the RF MOD tables (fully explained by the near 70% difference) but would like your input.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:04 utc | 236

Eight Ukronazi mansion houses in LA have burned to the ground this week.
So you want to know where all that US aid cash is going? Look no farther than LA, and Haifa and Nassau and Geneva and Miami Beach where all the Ukronazi elites have their stash houses.
And Sir Keir and Volo just signed a 100 year defense pact (without UK parliamentary approval by the way). Trump is apparently furious at Starmer for attempting to box him in on Ukraine, and has refused to invite him to DC for the inauguration…….
Starmer is now persona non grata in Washington…….good news for the week!!

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2025 14:08 utc | 237

Sun of Alabama wins his inaugural “The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today Aawrd” for this claptrap:
“The goldbugs are experts in their field at juggling fruit. They love nothing better than comparing Apple’s with oranges on a daily basis.”
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 16 2025 13:53 utc | 234
I usually don’t bother r4eading your bombastic, narcistic posts but this one made me giggle.
Gold price 1971=$35/oz
Gold price 2025=$2,666.00
But ‘gold bugs’ are stupid; methinks, you are the retarded one.
My paternal grandfather gave me a 2.5 ounce gold bullion piece that he bought for $120 (says so right on the package)in 1969; I still have it.
he government doesn’t know I have it, never will.
You analysis is so hokey I now find it now amusing.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:09 utc | 238

“Canuck Don’t let fake inflation numbers fool you..”
Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:59 utc | 227
You are correct, I don’t; that’s the official inflation number, but in reality it would be much , much more-that’ why I use John Williams (1) real numbers usually (1).
1. https://www.shadowstats.com/
Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:01 utc | 235
They seem about right, prices roughly double every 20 years in official numbers, but for the good stuff they roughly double in a decade.
As I mentioned before first noticed on military stuff but then saw that the boeing 747 was a solid indicator for nearly half a century (and then noticed houses were roughly tracking, as was any heavy engineering, BTW that’s why decade long projects, particularly with delays, go way overboard compared to budgeted values)

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:10 utc | 239

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 13:25 utc | 230
Louis doesn’t even pretend to be knowledgeable; thanks for correcting the idiot troll.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:10 utc | 240

motor slug @ 91
I followed your link to consortium news. I had always thought Blinken a profoundly stupid man. What you posted is truly remarkable. The remark to Lavrov also exposes that everyone in the system is deeply ignorant. Blinken’s canard is provided to him by expats. Everyone knows expats are tolerated, not listened to. Expats live in a fantasy world and so does US policy making. It is not changing under Trump. Reality became optional long ago.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 16 2025 14:17 utc | 241

IMO, Russia is playing a very careful long game.
Russia is slowly but surely decimating the Ukrainian military;
slowly but surely taking back land (don’t forget the Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire until 1991), all the while not escalating or enlarging the conflict.
It seems to me that Russia aims to make it impossible for the Ukrainian military to function, due to lack of manpower, if nothing else.
Also, IMO, Russia aims for a final settlement, not a cease fire, not with monitoring militaries. Just a rump neutral piece of land with no military capability ever.

Posted by: a lurking reader | Jan 16 2025 14:17 utc | 242

My paternal grandfather gave me a 2.5 ounce gold bullion piece that he bought for $120 (says so right on the package)in 1969; I still have it.
he government doesn’t know I have it, never will.
You analysis is so hokey I now find it now amusing.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:09 utc | 238
With 100.000 of those he could buy a boeing 747, usd 12.000.000
With 100.000 of those you can buy a boeing 777, usd 680.000 should be enough as it costs 500 million before options
In 1969 a us median family could expect to buy more than 31 of those bullion with what they earned in a year
In 2024 a us median family can’t buy 8 of those bullion with what they earn in a year

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:23 utc | 243

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:23 utc | 242
obvious correction boeing 777 the 680.000 is 680 million
As i’m having to correct will add some basis for indeoendent calculation usd 2716 vs 48 for price per oz
, wage usd 59.000 vs 9400

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:26 utc | 244

More in line with the thread, today’s spin on uk media is Aleksey Zhuravlyov saying the west will go full kinetic on RF by 2027-2028.
Of course warmonger and other usual stuff included.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:39 utc | 245

Speaking of kinetic.
Switzerland is not nato.
Davos would be a nice place to plant an hazelnut (just let china know that they should go only after the 21st)
Would be fun an just shy of mandatory ww3
And without those guys there’d be a lot of infighting for the top places…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:49 utc | 246

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 14:23 utc | 242
In the 30’s way up in Northern ,Canada a man named John Kenty and his brother found a mine, called, of course, the Kenty Mine. One of my companies now owns it.
I found some old records in the late 80’S and the Kenty brothers were paying their workers (two shafts ((3/4 mile part)), three different levels: 125 feet; 300 feet and 525 feet underground.)) a 1/2 oz of gold a day plus a free room !! Much more ($25 Canadian) than the average wage
I thought, wow, these brothers were very progressive.
Anyways, a few years later, in the late 90’s I met an old prospector who worked at the mine in 1934 -he was 93 when I met him; he told me the brothers paid well yet since it was two days journey by track to get to town (Timmins) Kenty built everything at the mine: grocery store, a bordello, a liquor store (those structures are still there, yet dilapidated) and Charlie, the old guy, told me the prices were high it took him a few months to save up to get out of there it was so expensive-hence, all those 1/2 gold oz pieces-the Kenty brothers got most of them back.
I am saying this because when you talk about inflation, as you have noted, it s so difficult to measure unless one has the total picture.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 16 2025 14:55 utc | 247

Posted by: Steph | Jan 16 2025 9:38 utc | 201
Interesting stuff, thanks. The comedian certainly is an opportunist, uppity Jew.
He might have not been a very Jewish Jew in the past but he does look Jewish to me, not as much as his pal Rustem Umerov but quite Jewish indeed.
These facial features of Semitic Jews (and Arabs) come from their environment. The sunken eyes, thick eyebrows, and hooked nose are adaptations to too much solar irradiation and sand storms, similar to camels, same struggle against sand storms over generations.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 16 2025 15:08 utc | 248

Maybe an unpopular opinion but economical sanctions are also an act of war. If NATO is waging war against Russia energy sector, Russia should answer kinetic. This is a fight for Russia’s survival. Announce what you will target and wipe out a LNG terminal or other energy infrastructure. BRICS is going to be of no help. Not enough spine, the whole BRICS might fail in the end. The world doesn’t need the bankrupt west, the sooner they understand the better.

Posted by: Jeroen | Jan 16 2025 15:45 utc | 249

About US sanctions and Indian imports, I found the following:
Reuters January 13

India halts trade with US-sanctioned Russian companies and tankers, government source says
By Nidhi Verma
NEW DELHI, Jan 13 (Reuters) – Indian refiners have stopped dealing with U.S.-sanctioned oil tankers and entities but the country does not expect disruption to Russian crude supplies during a two-month wind-down period, a government source said on Monday…

Posted by: robin | Jan 16 2025 15:46 utc | 250

What impact will the US sanctions have on Serbia?
Does the Turkstream pipeline service Serbia?
Will Trump remove the new sanctions (my guess is yes)?
Comments please!!!

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2025 15:59 utc | 251

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 5:23 utc | 264
The correct way to shorten Vladimir is Vova. Vlad is short for Vladislav.
Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 16 2025 5:39 utc | 190
Bitch, please!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 16:05 utc | 252

Jo | Jan 16 2025 13:30 utc | 232
*** UK Starmer complete sucker idiot in Ukraine to sign a 100year support Agreement..investment…defence..make sure Ukr is in strongest position in 2025 etc.***
Starmer the traitor and fanatical zionist jew is not helping ‘Ukraine’ at all … his regime is stealing money that’s badly needed for the repair of essential services and infrastructure in Britain — and giving it to the Zelensky gang and a future Khazaria.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 16 2025 16:11 utc | 253

Oh, i thought everyone knew Ukraine was a low level proxy of NATO.
Kind of like when you forgot Russia has had Crimea for eight years now.
Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 12:28 utc | 217
That’s not the only thing we’ve forgotten on this thread UWDude! The second word in b’s post here is the word ‘peace’.
Scrolling up to 200 I may have missed the sentiment, but I didn’t see the word PEACE anywhere so far on this page. So, to rectify that and prevent its prevention:
Blessed are the PEACEmakers, for they shall be called the sons of God.
That’s better!

Posted by: juliania | Jan 16 2025 16:22 utc | 254

Cynic @ 253
Its an empty promise for media optics.
In front of a gulable brain washed public.
And it has no relavence to actaul back room politic’s.
Starmers way of attempting to get out of a tight spot he’s in.
Trumps left him (starmer) with the baby (ukraine)

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 16 2025 16:22 utc | 255

Juliaia @ 254
I can do better than your comment.
We antifacist’s shout….
No justice, no peace.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 16 2025 16:33 utc | 256

Typo
Juliania not Juliaia

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 16 2025 16:36 utc | 257

@karlof1 #71
Neither. Modern weapons means nobody can protect their shipping – whether it is from submarines or drones or missiles or mines or [insert new tech here].
What really matters is who is hurt more by the resulting loss of seaborne trade.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 16 2025 19:18 utc | 258

@robin #95
Seized Russian tankers will result in seized Western tankers.
The Iranians did it, the Russians will also do it.
As I have already repeatedly note: the West is far more dependent on seaborne trade than Russia.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 16 2025 19:19 utc | 259

As I mentioned elsewhere, if Europe stays cold it’s already a good scenario. Will repeat , now for the cold Europe part, that I’ll take it as a win.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 12:37 utc | 219
It’s at least a win for the USA that started the conflict in Ukraine to disrupt whatever relations Europe had with Russia before 2014, especially trade in euros. Lavrov IIRC was just recently saying something about the US pillaging the Europeans of what wealth they had left. Given Putin and Lavrov’s moral fortitude, I doubt Trump will walk out of the conflict without Putin, Lavrov and co. reminding him of the USA’s role and motivations in creating the mess.
But other than that, what do you mean by “cold” if not in the literal sense?

Posted by: joey_n | Jan 16 2025 22:03 utc | 260

Biden does all of this by executive fiat and a US Senate that lets him get away with it.
The next administration can change the with a “phone and a pen”… So, at this point, I’d not sweat out that Biden is making Trump’s life difficult.
It would have been different if a Law had been passed supporting these actions. As it is, Trump might be able to get laws passes to prevent such actions in the future, but Biden’s handlers are hobbled by the US House.

Posted by: tonyE | Jan 17 2025 1:00 utc | 261

But other than that, what do you mean by “cold” if not in the literal sense?
Posted by: joey_n | Jan 16 2025 22:03 utc | 260
Carefully reading you’d see I meant Cold War, as opposed to nukes flying in Europe, is already not half bad

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 17 2025 1:22 utc | 262

What really matters is who is hurt more by the resulting loss of seaborne trade.
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 16 2025 19:18 utc | 258
Significantly? China.
Belt and road is not there yet

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 17 2025 1:23 utc | 263

No you missed Lavrovs Dog, and his 6 way sock account assault. I nailed him, then B nailed him, we are talking about 60 of his and all his sock account shit removed.
Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 9:51 utc | 203
You are quite the #1 mentally disturbed psychopath here again. Now I wonder who you were posting here as for the last 6+ months before you reverted back to your UWDude sock puppet nym? Obviously you are Chen’s Mum too.
It’s great to see actually. How fucking bent out of shape and what a raving lunatic you are. A totally unhinged fuck wit dominating MoA … won’t help it much. Won’t stop a single troll or sock puppet. Won’t get Bernhard any sleep and a break from dealing with assholes like this one..
I’m wondering though if UWDude is actually Bernhard with all the slimey fakeness stripped away. Why else would a sane owner tolerate such shit as this nutcase keeps spewing?
Here ya go fuckers:

At this point it looks like the trolls actually have escalation dominance now on MoA and are in control of the discussions here.
Posted by: TrollCop | Jan 16 2025 3:11 utc | 240
Better believe it baby!
In world where Sock Puppets such as Lavrov’s Dog W I S C O FormerW_s_o TrollCop, ThreadCop, Chen’s Mum, UWDude→ Karolis’ Uncle→ james→ Sun Of Alabama→ Just a Voice → Newbie→ xray rocket anonymous Englishman in NY x S B James Middle-man Mastameta Barnherd Peter AU1 Jake Blanchard Philly Philly’s Mum Bernhard PeterAU1 Mark2 Happy c1ue HappyDaze Canuck Cansuck dav1999 Santa Clause Santas Wife Santas Elves persiflo and you can’t get enough sleep, you got a problem.
Who you gonna call? The Thread Cop Sock Puppet? I thought Sock Puppetry ie Using multiple names is sockpuppeteering and will get you banned.
Apparently not! (smile) While being Shadowbanned will get you Permanently Banned and all your comments Erased.
Posted by: Posted Bi | Jan 16 2025 8:23 utc | 200

Posted by: PeterS | Jan 17 2025 1:36 utc | 264

some say its Trump…
Putin Expecting Mystery ‘Big Guest’ from US for Victory Parade: Report

Posted by: circumspect | Jan 17 2025 2:20 utc | 265

UK Starmer complete sucker idiot in Ukraine to sign a 100year support Agreement..investment…defence..make sure Ukr is in strongest position in 2025 etc.
Posted by: Jo | Jan 16 2025 13:30 utc | 232
Starmer only signed that paper with Zelensky for PR.
If push comes to shove, and it will, the UK will claim Zelensky couldn’t legally sign for Ukraine since he was no longer President at the time…
Weaselly words from a weasel.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jan 17 2025 2:32 utc | 266

[posted on the open thread but may be useful for some here as well.]
Canadian state media CBC will be running a 2 hour “documentary” on Russian President Putin on the main network today (8 pm) and on the News Network tomorrow.
They interviewed the film maker ahead of the show. Based on that it looks like a giddy character assassination with dollops of frothing, bubbling horror. In other words, the usual from the corporation.
Preparation for war, conscription and the like? Possibly. But it’s noteworthy that, in addition to the sanctions, terrorism and the like, the ideological warfare and vilification of rival leaders continues even in countries far away from the front line.
I would add that this sort of ideological warfare contributes to a kind of infantalization of politics generally, where political “debate” is reduced to a kind of schoolyard bullying.

Posted by: NH | Jan 17 2025 18:59 utc | 267

@Maracatu 2
India halts trade with US-sanctioned Russian companies and oil tankers.” https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1879215408110293349
“India is a Trozen house whose elites and ruling class lick American boots and whose media and govt are delusional about friendship with USA.
India should be kicked out from BRICs

Posted by: Sam | Jan 19 2025 7:20 utc | 268

England makes 100 years pact with Ukraine!
Delusion of empire never went away from that pirate island.
One ex pm went unannounced to Ukraine to stop peace talk in Feb 2022 and another pm goes to Ukraine to preempt Trump and be a guardian of and looter of Ukraine .what an evil !
But delusion of president Putin is bigger than he is still hoping for friendship with England controlled Anglo empire.
That is why Putin has never sunk any British ships though Russia has lost ma y ships to British .
Putin is danger to Russia.
Quote. “Has Putin lost the plot? This sounds both illogical and foolish. Is he showing signs of delusion or even dementia? Or has Putin simply gone mad?
Putin seeks close ties as Partners with the US and it’s Allies everywhere.
And when our current opponents – and maybe potential partners – will finally hear, understand and realize this, it seems to me that at that point the realization will come that what is needed is to seek compromises,” he said.
Cringe! What could be more terrifying than the President of Russia, in the midst of a war in Ukraine against the US, NATO, and the entire Western sphere, acting sweet and nice, talking about wanting to be friends and partners again, and suggesting cooperation and compromises?
This feels like truly unhinged, crazy rhetoric. Surely this is schizoid behavior because it is far from realistic under the circumstances.”

Posted by: Sam | Jan 19 2025 7:29 utc | 269

@louis 229
“India, the main importer and distributor of Russian oil, has stopped all imports.
Gazprom and Rosneft are laying off hundreds of employees.”
India is a very unreliable partner because main thing for India is to have only business like relationship and India can backstab Russia any time.

Posted by: Sam | Jan 19 2025 7:37 utc | 270