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January 15, 2025
Preventing Peace With Russia Russia – By Sanctions And Kinetic Means

The U.S. and its NATO proxies are losing on the battle fields of Ukraine. The Biden administration, attempting to  'Trump proof', i.e. prolong, the conflict, is thus (again) trying to defeat Russia by targeting its economic means.

This predominantly by cutting the sales of Russian resources. That third parties, the buyers in need of those products, will also be hurt by this is not of concern but can be seen as an additional feature.

The new wave of measures started on January 1 with the blocking of the last pipeline through Ukraine from Russia to Europe:

President Volodymyr Zelensky said the move means Russia can no longer “earn billions on our blood”.

His energy minister, Herman Halushchenko, confirmed on Wednesday morning that Kyiv had stopped the gas flows “in the interest of national security”.

“This is a historic event,” he wrote on the social media platform Telegram. “Russia is losing markets and will incur financial losses.”

The deal had allowed for Russian gas to travel through Ukraine’s pipeline networks into European countries, primarily Hungary, Slovakia and Austria.

With the end of this pipeline Ukraine will lose $640 million rent per year. It will expect the Europeans to make up for this. At the same time Hungary, Slovakia and Austria will now have to pay significant higher prices for gas.

For Russia though the losses due to selling that gas through other channels, like the TurkStream pipelines, are marginal.

The next step followed last week with the announcement of additional sanctions:

The sanctions will cover two major Russian petroleum producers and exporters — Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas — both of which are involved in the export of liquified natural gas and efforts to expand the Russian energy sector into the Arctic. They are expected to cut off Moscow’s revenue stream to the tune of billions of dollars per month, putting new strain on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort against Ukraine.

Separately, the State Department will also block “two active liquefied natural gas projects, a large Russian oil project, and third-country entities supporting Russia’s energy exports” from access to the American financial system and add “numerous Russia-based oilfield service providers and senior officials of State Atomic Energy Corporation Rosatom” to its list of “designated entities” who are banned from the United States.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in a statement that the U.S. is “taking sweeping action against Russia’s key source of revenue for funding its brutal and illegal war against Ukraine.”

A second administration official who also briefed reporters on condition of anonymity said the new sanctions will target 183 maritime vessels that are understood to be part of Moscow’s “shadow fleet,” as well as “dozens” of oil traders and oil field services providers based in Russia.

These sanctions will increase the price of oil and gas for everyone.

A senior Biden administration official who briefed reporters on the move said the White House was choosing to impose the new sanctions just days before President Joe Biden leaves office because both oil markets and the American economy are “in a fundamentally better place” than they were at any other point during the war.

The coming price rise caused by these sanctions will thus be explained as a failure of Trump.

A day later Ukrainian forces attacked the compressor station on Russian ground that is feeding the TurkStream pipeline system:

On 11 January 2025, in an attempt to disrupt gas supplies to European countries, the Kiev's regime launched an attack by nine fixed-wing UAVs at the Russkaya Compressor Station near Gay-Kodzor (Krasnodar region), which ensures gas supply over the TurkStream pipeline.

While repelling the attack, air defence units shot down all UAVs.

Russian officials left no doubt of who is to hold responsible for this:

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov alleged at a news conference on Tuesday that Washington is encouraging “terrorist” attacks on his country’s energy infrastructure, and claimed there are plans to target TurkStream.

“The US does not tolerate competition in any sphere, including energy. They are recklessly endorsing terrorist activities aimed at undermining the energy stability of the European Union,” Lavrov said, according to Turkiye’s Anadolu news agency.

The pipeline is the last carrying Russian gas into the EU after Ukraine refused to renew a transit contract that expired at the end of 2024. The halt on that route has further disrupted EU unity on the war, with Slovakia claiming it will cause a crisis and threatening to block EU support for Kyiv.

The attack on TurkStream was followed two days later by another large scale assault on Russian oil infrastructure:

Ukraine struck several targets deep inside Russia on Tuesday in what it says is its "most massive" attack of the war so far.

Russia said it had shot down US-supplied Atacms missiles as well as UK-made Storm Shadow cruise missiles, and vowed to respond to the attack.

Strikes in the border region of Bryansk caused explosions at a refinery, ammunition depots and a chemical plant said to produce gunpowder and explosives, a Ukrainian security source told the BBC.

But Kyiv also struck far deeper into the country, with the General Staff claiming to have hit targets up to 1,100km (700 miles) from the border.

In the western region of Saratov, officials reported a "massive" drone attack.

Two industrial plants in the cities of Engels and Saratov were damaged, regional governor Roman Busargin wrote on Telegram.

Russia promptly promised to retaliate:

Last night, the AFU launched a missile strike at objects in Bryansk region by six U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, six UK-made Storm Shadow air-based cruise missiles, and 31 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles from the territory of Ukraine.

During the air defence battle, all air attack means were shot down by air defence crews. There were no casualties or wounded as a result of the attack.

In addition, two UK-made Storm Shadow air-based cruise missiles were shot down over the Black Sea waters.

These actions of the Kiev regime, supported by Western curators, will not go unanswered.

The answer came last night when a barrage of drones and missiles hit Ukrainian electricity and gas infrastructure. The  main target was Europe's biggest gas storage facility near Lviv in western Ukraine.


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Ukraine has little to win from waging an infrastructure war against Russia. But Zelensky as well as the U.S. 'war party' still hope to profit from it.

As Strana analyses (machine translation):

[I]n addition to the purely military aspect, these strikes also have an informational and political aspect. And it lies roughly on the same plane as allowing Western long-range weapons attacks on the Russian Federation, the murder of a Russian general and military-industrial complex figures, Vladimir Zelensky's policy against Vladimir Putin and his promise to "take revenge" on Russia even after the end of hostilities.

We have already written that all this is working to strengthen the position of the Russian "war party", which declares that "there is nothing to negotiate with Ukraine, this is a terrorist state that will always pose a threat to Russia, and therefore it must be destroyed. There is also nothing to negotiate with the West.

The goal of such statements and actions is to minimize the likelihood that Putin will find a common language with Donald Trump on a compromise basis in order to end the war on the front line in the near future.

The Ukrainian authorities do not want this option to end the war. …

To continue attacks which incite the Russian public against Ukraine is an additional method to make a peace agreement more unlikely.

The over arching aim of the Zelensky regime and the Biden administration is to prevent a peace agreement between the U.S. and Russia.

War will keep the money flowing to Zelensky's Ukraine. As long as Russian gas supplies can be kept from European markets the U.S. will profit from it. Europe's industry will falter while the U.S. military industrial complex can strive.

Comments

That said, my belief is the amount of inflation is not determined solely by government deficits. The inflationary effects of those, bank loans, commercial and private debt, mortgage debt are dependent upon the movements in the overall rate and mass of profits, I think, as well as the degree of market concentration. Further discussion is merited but won’t be read anyhow, so I’m skipping the labor.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 20:49 utc | 104
BINGO!
Price and rent gauging leads to higher inflation that leads to smaller real salaries that lead… to a so called stagflation aka old overproduction crisis. Been there, done that.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 21:06 utc | 101

Paco | Jan 15 2025 20:13 utc | 95–
Hola Paco! Yes, I saw that even Larry Johnson cited Marat’s work. Good health to you in 2025!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 15 2025 21:12 utc | 102

Here is another thought: How about Zelensky has nothing to do with the bombings?
NATO has the unique opportunity to take potshots at anything they want in Russia. Just send the required weapons to Ukraine and push the button (or have some Ukrainian guy push it after you program the target coordinates). A dream come true for our no-longer-cold warriors.
Why stop the fun? Best case, Russia loses control and retaliates against a target in the West, and the fun really takes off: the generals will be swimming in the money bin just like Scrooge McDuck.
What’s not to like? Why stop the fun now that it only just started?

Posted by: Marvin | Jan 15 2025 21:14 utc | 103

regarding sanctions – markets are a funny thing
small markets between big players are very profitable and everyone knows what happens
big markets where a lot of small players are involved are very unprofitable except for the big players

so what does USA do here? 😉 kind of a suicide seems for me

Posted by: Macpott | Jan 15 2025 21:15 utc | 104

Posted by: Red Star | Jan 15 2025 20:53 utc | 106
I have heard the Maidan thing referred to as the Revolution of Dignity for quite a while.
Is dignity short for dignitary?
McCain and Murphy on stage at Maidan

Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 15 2025 21:16 utc | 105

Same answer as above @ 100: do you expect Russia to act in a way that would impact Western shipping? If so, how?
Posted by: robin | Jan 15 2025 20:48 utc | 102
Maybe giving houtis small submarine tech? You cannot pirate in the old ways, but a tragetting solution and a call to the insurance company? Crypto transfer or ship down?
If shadow fleet cannot sell fuel on land, maybe gas stations in the ocean?
I’ll be selling parrots 😀

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 21:17 utc | 106

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 15 2025 17:36 utc | 50
“Looks like those pissants in the EU are humbly obeying orders/ordures from the ruling elite. Curious as to how this system will play out after the 20th.”
It will be interesting to see how quickly the parade loses steam once the US isn’t leading and paying for it.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 21:19 utc | 107

Out of curiosity, I posted the line : “Vargas is so weak. Terribly weak” into an AI haiku writing programme (at boredhumans.com).
This is what it returned :
“We are unable to work with inappropriate or offensive content so please rephrase your request.”
Well, I suppose I can see their point …
Posted by: Red Star | Jan 15 2025 20:53 utc | 106
________
vargas is so weak.
Nobody respects him now.
It’s all Putin’s fault.
Easy enough without AI!

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 15 2025 21:21 utc | 108

The largest US “super sanctions” on Russian oil exports have not yet been able to reduce the volume of supplies
▪️Over the past week, when major sanctions were imposed on Russian oil exports by tankers, the volume of supplies did not fall significantly, according to Bloomberg data.
▪️The sanctions were introduced on January 10. During the week from January 6 to 12, 27 tankers loaded 21.06 million barrels of Russian crude oil. The week before, there were 21.18 million barrels on 28 ships.
▪️Daily deliveries remained virtually unchanged. The decline in deliveries from Russia’s Baltic and Pacific ports was offset by an increase in deliveries from the Black Sea.
▪️The sanctions themselves will not be fully implemented immediately; the US Treasury Department has provided a transition period until March 12.
▪️A major buyer of Russian oil, India, has already announced that it will allow sanctioned tankers booked before January 10 to unload in its ports until March 12. That is, the end of the transition period.
▪️However, Indian refiners expect the impact to be temporary as Moscow seeks workarounds. They also expect the Trump administration to take a softer stance.
@Slavyangrad

Posted by: Jo | Jan 15 2025 21:21 utc | 109

But state, at least the new administration, has a clear and realistic view
https://tass.com/world/1899747
Ukraine unable to push Russian troops back to earlier positions — US diplomat
“There’s a size differential here that’s important,” Marco Rubio added
WASHINGTON, January 15. /TASS/. Under no circumstances can Ukraine push Russian troops back to positions they held before Russia launched its special military operation in Ukraine, the nominee to the post of the US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, said.
In his words, “there’s no way Ukraine is also going to push these people all the way back to where they were on the eve” of the special military operation.
“There’s a size differential here that’s important,” he added during congressional hearings to approve his nomination. In his words, it is “unrealistic to believe that somehow a nation the size of Ukraine” can push back Russian forces, “no matter how much damage the Russian Federation has suffered.”
Rubio added that “the problem that Ukraine is facing is not that they’re running out of money, is that they’re running out of Ukrainians.”
In his opinion, “it is going to take a generation to rebuild” Ukraine. “Millions of Ukrainians no longer live in Ukraine,” Rubio continued. Besides, in his words, rebuilding the country’s infrastructure, including the power grid, will “cost hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild over the next decades.”
US President-elect Donald Trump nominated Rubio, 53, to the post of the US Secretary of State on November 13, 2024.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 21:30 utc | 110

What is your enemy not prepared to lose? Threaten that and you’ve got them. The US have escalatory dominance in spite of so many Oresniks, etc for the simple fact that Russia lacks a narrative that can support their use other than at Ukraine, which is a soft meaningless target now. The US etc have their populations by the nose, which means that punishing Russia plays well. But Russia can’t knock out warships in the Black Sea or elsewhere without becoming Yemen, i.e., an outside ‘rogue’ actor. Russia is already trying desperately to shake off that role internationally. The bottom line is that domestically (and perhaps in China’s view) Putin cannot go to war. And when that’s off the table, the west can bully him without restraint. So here we are. Unless Putin stakes his leadership on a proper showdown with NATO in order to settle on a new post-Westphalian, post-Cold War, order, it will be death by a thousand cuts.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 15 2025 21:39 utc | 111

I have heard the Maidan thing referred to as the Revolution of Dignity for quite a while.
Is dignity short for dignitary?
McCain and Murphy on stage at Maidan
Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 15 2025 21:16 utc | 112
Thanks. I cant have been paying attention.

Posted by: Red Star | Jan 15 2025 21:42 utc | 112

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 17:48 utc | 54
“First, it is entirely unclear why Trump would oppose higher oil and gas prices, given the US produces so much of it”
Do you forget Trump’s campaign promise to rescue the American voters from the worst economy since Jimmy Carter invented stagflation? Trump wants to fix the damage done to the country by Biden et. al, but he also wants to re order the American electorate by welcoming blue collar workers (union members) disaffected African Americans who are insignificant until an election comes around, Hispanics who aren’t onboard with abortion and transgenderism and libertarians/ independents who don’t want to be test subjects for Big Pharma’s next vaccine rollout. If Trump breaks his promise to make America affordable again his carefully crafted new coalition will abandon him. That seems like reason enough.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 21:42 utc | 113

Oil and Gas that Russia doesn’t sell today is oil and gas they can sell in the future.
US fracking field output is beyond peak in all but four counties in the US, and “drill baby drill” isn’t going to do much more than put a band-aid on the issue for a few more years. By 2028, US LNG shipments to the EU will be a thing of the past, at which point Russia can name its price.
If the West had any sense, it would trade freely with Russia and “drain baby drain” it of its resources with our worthless fiat.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Jan 15 2025 22:07 utc | 114

Can anybody explain why there is any functioning rail line entering The Ukraine from Poland or Romania?

Posted by: Bilejones | Jan 15 2025 22:07 utc | 115

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 15 2025 19:29 utc | 79
“my spidey-sense says Trump is the perfect re-brand to take non pussified, non woke MAGA, once known as the working class, to war.”
Sure, Trump doesn’t care if he goes down in history as the reincarnated Hitler, as long as his name is in the history book somewhere, right?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 22:12 utc | 116

make America affordable again
Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 21:42 utc | 120
Interesting phrasing, and yet the most relevant
But that goes against an ongoing, and IMHO to the 2060’s at least, tendency to have a new gilded age (gold on the outside, crap on the inside) and then some.
That would/will need to squeeze the lower classes even further.
Maybe a decade’s respite before going full darwin… letting those that knew something else was possible die off.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 22:14 utc | 117

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 15 2025 21:39 utc | 118
Russia is holding the knife, the West is leaking

Posted by: kupkee | Jan 15 2025 22:18 utc | 118

Correction suggestion.
‘strive’ –> ‘thrive’.

Posted by: YesXorNo | Jan 15 2025 22:18 utc | 119

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 21:42 utc | 120 Answer to the direct question: 1)Don’t take Trump’s campaign promises seriously 2)Jimmy Carter didn’t invent stagflation, a tag for promises dating back to Nixon abandoning the gold standard and resorting to wage (and officially price) controls, followed up by Whip Inflation Now buttons from Ford. The overall decline in real wages for the past fifty years is bipartisan. If anything the lowest wage percentiles managed to gain a little due to COVID relief programs and full(er) employment…which I believe is why President Band-Aid (my private name for Biden) was so eager to roll them back.
Most certainly do not believe Trump is in any sense pro-labor. His anti-immigrant shtick is anti-labor. Trump is not for raising the minimum wage. (B the way, my personal slogan is “Union card=green card! No new H-1B visas!”) Trump did not do infrastructure, much less industrial policy…but the implicit claim that manufacturing jobs are good jobs is Trumpery. The truth is that it is union jobs that are good jobs. See what’s happened to coal miners and their communities in places like WV. The rest is largely right wing identity politics and that’s as much a loser in the long run as left-wing identity politics, particularly since so many right wing African Americans are climbers who would be labeled PMCs. Clarence Thomas is an elite, not working class. And African American clergymen running megachurches are businessmen, afterlife insurance agency owner or prosperity gospel pyramid scheme entrepreneurs. Libertarians are right-wing trash, just as anti-labor as Trump, except they mostly get jollies from reading Atlas Shrugged rather than real money.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 22:24 utc | 120

Posted by: Ed | Jan 15 2025 20:25 utc | 97
“Today, U.S. military spending and the COVID-19 pandemic are the primary sources of inflation in the U.S.”
That, and maybe the fact that the last time Congress passed a balanced budget was 1996?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 22:24 utc | 121

Posted by: robin | Jan 15 2025 20:48 utc | 102
“Same answer as above @ 100: do you expect Russia to act in a way that would impact Western shipping? If so, how?”
We won’t know until after Trump’s Inauguration. If the US continues to facilitate Ukraine missile strikes into Russia I would expect Putin to initiate some kind of asymmetrical response to send a message. I’m guessing that he is holding back on a response because he realizes that the Biden team is trying to start a war as their parting gift to Trump. If Trump doesn’t jerk Ukraine’s leash I expect to see some kind of response from Putin.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 22:36 utc | 122

Sure, Trump doesn’t care if he goes down in history as the reincarnated Hitler, as long as his name is in the history book somewhere, right?
Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 22:12 utc | 123
Well the biden regency is already in geography because of the huge piles, hills and mountains , of shit it has crapped.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 22:36 utc | 123

The 6.3 trillion dollar MIC budget, the kindergartner, Trump, signed with glee, was a massive inflation booster.
He was so proud. Like a big boy.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jan 15 2025 22:38 utc | 124

I would expect Putin to initiate some kind of asymmetrical response to send a message. I’m guessing that he is holding back on a response because he realizes that the Biden team is trying to start a war as their parting gift to Trump. If Trump doesn’t jerk Ukraine’s leash I expect to see some kind of response from Putin.
Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 22:36 utc | 129
Agreed!
Mentioned that if there was no hope of a strong change from current administration we’d be right in WW3 (or very close)
In a way its quite ironic that a lame duck can do whatever he feels like and feel much less restrained than under normal circumstances. As long as the other side is not a psychopath they’ll let almost anything pass…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 15 2025 22:42 utc | 125

Bilejones | Jan 15 2025 22:07 utc | 122

Can anybody explain why there is any functioning rail line entering The Ukraine from Poland or Romania?

Come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jan 15 2025 22:45 utc | 126

vargas is so weak. Terribly weak.
Nobody respects vargas today.
It is all Putin’s fault.
Posted by: persiflo | Jan 15 2025 19:55 utc | 90
Well, it isn’t MY fault, or Putin’s. We did try. But the congenital stupidity turned out to be irreversible.

Posted by: vargas’s mum | Jan 15 2025 22:54 utc | 127

@128
U$$A dollars are printed as fast or faster than U$$A GDP grows, which equals growth of U$$A federal debt.
If federal reserve stopped buyingU$$A debt with new printing there would be no inflation and n economic bust in U$$A.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 15 2025 23:05 utc | 128

Two mutually-exclusive propositions put forth by TPTB and its hired-shills vis-a-vis Russia:
1) That it is in terminal decline, a glorified gas station posing as a country, and
2) That Vladimir Putin is the most-evilist whilst most-feckless dictator this side of history and also Hitler 2.0.
If the former, why so much struggle with Russia, then? Wouldn’t it be better to just wait out its terminal decline to its inevitable collapse?
If the latter, why do we claim that Russia is finished? Why would you declare a country to be evil and in need of a cleansing but also already dead? Wouldn’t this contradiction fly in the face of mobilizing efforts to come to the aid of Ukrainians? Why should I bleed red in an effort whose culminating event has already been decided?
If Russia is a threat, label it as such. Otherwise, your messaging will appear schizophrenic and retarded. And it is. And that is why Russia remains quiet and quietly marches on: there is no need to speak to those on the other side of the iron curtain any longer.
Trolls abound but they are easy to spot.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 15 2025 19:54 utc | 89

This has been called RUSSOPHRENIA or something like that:
1. Russophrenia – an illness in need of a cure
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/270739-west-media-russia-collapse-war/
2. See also Patrick Armstrong
RUSSOPHRENIA – OR HOW A COLLAPSING COUNTRY RUNS THE WORLD
https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2020/10/30/russophrenia-or-how-a-collapsing-country-runs-the-world/
I think the term goes way back, actually, before MacDonald’s piece, but I am too lazy to do the work right now. Cheers.

Posted by: NH | Jan 15 2025 23:07 utc | 129

What if the west begins a naval blockade of the Russian ports?
Nobody thought over that possibility.
I can predict that happening very soon.
Posted by: vargas | Jan 15 2025 19:56 utc | 91
Oh ffs. Is that what “Dima Says”? That’s a 100% act of war. Think it through, you doofus.
Otoh, I’m now utterly convinced no way is vargas a sincere actor — but a wilful mischievous troll, intending divisive and diversionary attention of suckers to degrade MoA … like so many others. And it works, perfectly. His operator must be laughing at all of us falling for his theatre.
Q. Why can’t we all ignore him? Maybe because it’s fun to punch ghosts. Everyone loves to denigrate a fuckwit low IQ personality, even if fake. Vargas is the most clever, least obvious, most convincing, troll here.

Posted by: Just a Voice | Jan 15 2025 23:15 utc | 130

Hello everyone, there’s a lot of faith and hope at play here again.
Russia has fired many missiles at Ukraine again, so what? Is there any evidence at all that this large gas storage facility, for example, was seriously damaged?
The attack was probably more of a demonstration (we are doing something …), to calm the angry Russian public.
It’s still party time in Kiev, where nobody has to be afraid of being attacked by missiles and drones.
The war and the total destruction are only taking place in the areas that Russia claims for itself.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 15 2025 23:25 utc | 131

“a naval blockade of the Russian ports?”
Well…step right up. Vargas and a small crew of Ukrainians in a Baltic sailboat can patrol from St. Petersburg to Kaliningrad, offering persuasive arguments why Russia ought not use international waters.

Posted by: kupkee | Jan 15 2025 23:30 utc | 132

“At the same time Hungary, Slovakia and Austria will now have to pay significant higher prices for gas.”
I don’t believe this is the case for Hungary. From my fading memory, back in September 2021 Hungary did a deal for I think 2.5bcm/y at the then current low price with in December Orban going to Russia and doubling it. As it turned out, one of the prescient energy deals ever made. This is supplied via Turkstream and is half its capacity.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 15 2025 23:31 utc | 133

DS map update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#13/48.7416406/38.0533791
Better day for the RFA, taking 20 kmsq. Compare to DEC pace at 14/day and JAN (spot estimate) at 10/day. However still less than the typical NOV day at 23/day.
Advances in Velyka Novasilka area, Uspenivka pocket area, Pokrovsk front, and Toretsk.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 134

Trump does not have control of the Imperial Function.
Pantomime.
He gets to supp at one of its teats.
They all do.
He ain’t Xi or Putin.
He ain’t the ancient still standing human civilsation that is a hundred times older than the entitled spoilt children.
Elder and Betters.
Don’t expect too much.
No nuclear Armageddon is best we can hope for.
A surrender. A sulky one.
As from an unruly child who has erred.
But will be allowed to carry on growing
The Masters though.
They have finally met their match.
They must be zeroed in on and not allowed to Shapeshift away from this defeat.
As always they do.
Otherwise they will GO again.
Come friendly Hazels the nuts need
Cracking into bits.
End it.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 15 2025 23:40 utc | 135

With the proliferation of all that unmanned surface vessels, those US LNG tankers are sitting ducks.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2025 23:46 utc | 136

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 15 2025 22:24 utc | 127
“Most certainly do not believe Trump is in any sense pro-labor. His anti-immigrant shtick is anti-labor. Trump is not for raising the minimum wage. (B the way, my personal slogan is “Union card=green card! No new H-1B visas!”) Trump did not do infrastructure, much less industrial policy…but the implicit claim that manufacturing jobs are good jobs is Trumpery. The truth is that it is union jobs that are good jobs. See what’s happened to coal miners and their communities in places like WV.”
Maybe you haven’t been paying attention while in treatment for severe TDS. Trump got scads of union votes, and now union leaders are singing his praise.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/union-employers-credit-trump-us-port-deal-that-may-shape-future-talks-2025-01-09/
And if you might recall, Obama is the one who vowed to put the coal industry out of business, and Biden said the miners would be OK because they could all learn coding. Do you wonder why Pennsylvania voted for Trump?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 23:48 utc | 137

Karolis@144…..a very profound post, great summation, grim look regardless of one’s position…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 15 2025 23:50 utc | 138

Posted by: Karolis | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 144
ooh, “grim”, scary word. must be true.
“If necessary, the U.S. and EU could embargo all trade with BRICS nations or other “rogue” states. This would hurt everyone involved, but the West’s dominant position would likely endure”
LoL. America surviving a self imposed embargo against China.
You people think your prose, cadence, and use of complex terms, will some how mask the absolute retardedness of your stupid fucking lies.
Fuck off

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 15 2025 23:51 utc | 139

With the proliferation of all that unmanned surface vessels, those US LNG tankers are sitting ducks.
Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2025 23:46 utc | 146

Glad I threw away my copy of The Anarchist’s Cookbook before posting.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 15 2025 23:52 utc | 140

Well, I suppose I can see their point …
Posted by: Red Star | Jan 15 2025 20:53 utc | 106
I don’t see any point. Truth is only offensive for people like him who are constantly lying.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 15 2025 23:52 utc | 141

Vargas is the most clever, least obvious, most convincing, troll here.
Posted by: Just a Voice | Jan 15 2025 23:15 utc | 139

Corrected for you:
war-gaslithing is the most stupid, most obvious, less convincing, agent provicateur and liar.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 15 2025 23:58 utc | 142

Karolis@144…..a very profound post, great summation, grim look regardless of one’s position…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 15 2025 23:50 utc | 148
of course this tool would think the west doing a self imposed embargo on Brazil, India, and CHINA would somehow result in continued dominance of the world by the west.
When I first read him, years ago, I noticed his mealy mouthed, two faced bullshit about “the tragedy” in Ukraine, and how “both Russia and Ukraine fight for the same people” bull shit, trying to deceptively cover his true agenda, which is clearly Russophobic, couched in “concern”.
Now he openly praised Vargas level stupidity as “profound” be ause the word count, and multi syllabic word count was high, and fit his fork-tongued agenda.
I see you.
“profound”
lol
fuck off.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 0:00 utc | 143

grim look regardless of one’s position…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 15 2025 23:50 utc | 148
note, this is why I mentioned Sean’s two-facedness. He always tries to pull this “neutral observer” b.s. in almost every post, yet almost every post of his is some back handed comment undermining Russia.

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 0:05 utc | 144

The war can be better won by someone other than Putin. He totally mismanaged the war, prolonged it needlessly and must take responsibility for damages to Russia caused by NATO using Ukraine.
Putin must be replaced now. He had his glory days but they are over. Russia needs a leader who actually protects Russia and severely punish Ukraine for being a NATO proxy.
If the justification for Hiroshima and Nagasaki was to end the war quickly saving lives and treasure in the long term it is far more relevant today in Ukraine than in 1945.
Russia is the only nuclear armed nation that keeps tolerating repeated violation of its territory almost on a daily basis. This smashes Russia’s deterrence abilities to smithereens. Not before long Armenia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, etc. will be doing the same thing Ukraine does.

Posted by: Jason | Jan 16 2025 0:05 utc | 145

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 15 2025 23:51 utc | 149
What the supporters of the ukronazis do not understand is how the European countries are in the processe of falling apart. They lack raw materials and energy. While Russia has plenty of it. European economies would be destroyed thanks to the yankees: that is the fate of the vassals. And the west is in no position to hinder anything on the Asiatic continent. Which is self-sufficient. If the African countries cannot count on food and raw materials from Russia because of a blockade, one can be sure that they will “love” the imperialist yankees for quite a long time.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 16 2025 0:08 utc | 146

JohnDoe | Jan 15 2025 16:51 utc | 26
There is also a 2.5 bcm (billion cubic meter) underground gas storage system not too far away.
As the U$ might say: An Oreshnik-rich environment.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 16 2025 0:09 utc | 147

Soooo…. another agent provocateur at the bar. It is easy to see where it comes from. More lies. The funny thing is that when they read their lies they believe them.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 16 2025 0:11 utc | 148

DS map update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#13/48.7416406/38.0533791
Better day for the RFA, taking 20 kmsq. Compare to DEC pace at 14/day and JAN (spot estimate) at 10/day. However still less than the typical NOV day at 23/day.
Advances in Velyka Novasilka area, Uspenivka pocket area, Pokrovsk front, and Toretsk.
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 143
And yet a low count day, just shy of 1.800 while yesterday was 2.100. Autotranslate below
“APU attack on the Kursk region
Continuation of the destruction of the Nazis who invaded the territory of Russia.
Liberation of new regions of the Russian Federation
Full release of the Ukrainian woman. Compression of the Kurakhovsky boiler from Sukhoi Yal. Expansion of control to the north of Novoelizavetovka, in Uspenovka, towards Udachny. Advance in Krymske (in the north of Dzerzhinsk). Advance a few kilometers from Cherry to Green Guy. Return of some of the positions in Kolesnikovka that were lost a week ago.
A day earlier: Complete liberation of Terns, access to the outskirts of Yampolovka. Significant advance to Velikaya Novoselka from the south with the complete liberation of Neskuchny.
The daily losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 1,795 servicemen, including 460 in the Kupyansk direction (West), 560 in the Pokrovskoye direction (Center), 230 in the Donetsk direction (South), 200 in the South-Donetsk direction (East), 95 in the Kherson direction (Dnipro), and 30 in the Kharkiv direction (North). 220 militants of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were killed in the Kursk direction.
In the summary of the Russian Defense Ministry, the Bryansk direction controlled by the Sever group was mentioned for more than a month without details..”
As a question, how many shadowstorms from the uk so far? If things don’t change it’s time to offer a kinzhal for each and every one, or an hazelnut for 36 as a promotion. UK is no longer a world power and it’s doubtful the us would risk too much for airstrip one (and I’d bet money that france will NOT risk war for the uk). If things go sideways it’s the perfect target (as long as RF can catch all the submarines, if not then nuke sent, not discounting intercepted ones, for nuke sent would basically send the uk into a glowing variant of the stone age ). I know, I know, everyone is entitled to a shadowbanned moment every couple of months … What about the ATACMs? Well, punish some, ignore others. Just make sure one of the first hazelnuts, and if it comes to that nukes, is for the square mile of the city of london. Maybe the radiation would cure king chuck’s cancer 😀
Now on a more asymmetric approach, I’m still partial to arming venezuela and razing all the uk’s offshore havens in the vicinity, that and sinking all at sea uk submarines (wont say I did it if you don’t complain). Pity that there’s the idiot at the helm of argentine, a falklands replay would also be nice.
Sorry folks, not in a good day.
But seriously, how many stormshadows so far? Anyone has a count? But it’s not huge number and if we see a better one and forget about the time to re-stock, there are 7.500 AGM-158 JASSM, for those that think there is no escalation options for the west. Question is, how much nato is at war with RF (and as long as no nukes fly, the answer is… limited)

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 0:21 utc | 149

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 0:10 utc | 159
You said it all. Or from some well known agency. Europe is fucked, why they don’t want to understand that reality? Because of their lies and propaganda.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 16 2025 0:21 utc | 150

Not before long Armenia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, etc. will be doing the same thing Ukraine does.
Posted by: Jason | Jan 16 2025 0:05 utc | 156

Life.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 16 2025 0:22 utc | 151

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 15 2025 23:48 utc | 147 No, Trump did not get scads of union voters. For one thing, unions are at such a low ebb, they don’t contain scads of voters, they’re too few and too small. As for union presidents and other officials, there is a good old American phrase, “labor lieutenants of capital.” (No, that wasn’t Lenin, Lenin copied it from an American.) Sean O’Brien may make out like a bandit but the American worker, squat, is my prediction. (And I’m not convinced it will end up paying off for O’Brien.)
As for PA? https://www.google.com/search?q=popular+vote+for+Trump+in+PA&sca_esv=bcbd4b002db38cd9&source=hp&ei=Dk6IZ72LE8ac0PEPu8-P4Q8&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZ4hcHnObYl_i4prLeYvsa7-u57TxefFL&ved=0ahUKEwi9yqfI-fiKAxVGDjQIHbvnI_wQ4dUDCBk&uact=5&oq=popular+vote+for+Trump+in+PA&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Ihxwb3B1bGFyIHZvdGUgZm9yIFRydW1wIGluIFBBSJgzUABY-y9wAHgAkAEBmAG6BKABix6qAQsxMS4xMC40LjUtMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCF6ACmRvCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgsQABiABBixAxjJA8ICCxAAGIAEGJIDGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgoQABiABBhGGPsBwgIFEAAYgATCAgsQABiABBixAxjHA8ICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEY1ALCAggQABiABBjHA8ICCBAAGIAEGKIEwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigWYAwCSBwoxMC45LjMuMC4xoAeRjQE&sclient=gws-wiz
It’s true 120 000 votes more is nothing to sneeze at. But was it due to the 750 000 or so union members swarming to Trump? Personally I think Trump soared up to 52% (irony alert) because so much of PA is rural, where voters tend to be under the thumb of the local gentry/petty bourgeois types and because the whole union movement is so weak, even remaining members pay less attention. But I confess I think the purge of leftists, especially Communists, dealt a terrible blow to American labor. (Trump’s teacher Roy Cohn did his part in that.) To top it all of course, directly against your version, the news media saw labor as an opponent of Trump. https://penncapital-star.com/election-2024/pennsylvania-union-members-project-2025-knock-on-doors-to-defeat-trump-motivated-by-900-pages-of-pure-terror/#:~:text=Nearly%20half%20of%20Pennsylvania's%20750%2C000,are%20public%20employees%20like%20Thomas. Thus his victory is seen more as a defeat of labor, the sort of thing prompting the Trump stock market. Your master is anti-labor, I’m certain. You too?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 16 2025 0:23 utc | 152

“do you expect Russia to act in a way that would impact Western shipping? If so, how?”
Russia knows Biden has just 4 days left so wouldn’t take him seriously. If Trump continues Biden’s trade restrictions on Russia there are many avenues to respond.
1. Russia has the world’s largest stockpile of sea mines. Any signatory or ratified country can leave it any time with notice. This will devastate USA and allies forcing them to allow Russia free passage.
2. Russia has the capability to destroy submarine internet cable nodes and key cables. Losses will run into trillions and social unrest will be unmanageable. It will force NATO countries to change course.
3. Russia can supply sea mines and torpedoes to third parties for use against pro-US countries’ ships and ports. Just another Ukraine doing what it’s told.
4. Russia can supply “banned weapons” to proxies. Better still the ability to produce them. This includes poor man’s nukes or biological weapons. High population density pro-US countries can be brought to their knees and others will shut their doors to them. Cross Atlantic military cooperation will become impossible.
One must understand that a number of agreements and conventions were agreed with Russia, etc. to avoid these threats. If they unravel those threats become real.
4.

Posted by: Jason | Jan 16 2025 0:23 utc | 153

I didn’t name anyone, but the liar recognised himself. And now all that’s left for him is the insults.
LOL

Posted by: Naive | Jan 16 2025 0:28 utc | 154

@Karolis | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 144
Beautiful.
The hegemon must be destroyed. It seems existential for Russia. A conventional war with the West seems rather useless, as it will likely end in a nuclear exchange.
I doubt that Russia will heel to Western dominance. It would not be surprising if Russia made the first blow in a direct war between East and West…and it would not be surprising if that first blow was nuclear.
Russia, the hope of the world as Cayce foretold, may well take out the hegemon before it can respond. The trouble is, that would be sooner rather than later…but then again, it might be better than a yearslong war with the West ending with the same result.
Thank you for your insightful post.

Posted by: A rope leash | Jan 16 2025 0:36 utc | 155

Sanctions haven’t done anything to slow this development. There’re some very new and majestic sights to see when the reader digs further, “Rehabilitating Crimea & Sevastopol: An Update,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/rehabilitating-crimea-and-sevastopol

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 16 2025 0:47 utc | 156

Don’t worry b, they are stupid. Case in point …
” The sanctions will cover two major Russian petroleum producers and exporters — Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas — both of which are involved in the export of liquified natural gas and efforts to expand the Russian energy sector into the Arctic. They are expected to cut off Moscow’s revenue stream to the tune of billions of dollars per month, putting new strain on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort against Ukraine. ”
It is why the sanctions never work. As they still believe the myth Russian exports fund the war. Hook line and sinker the tax payer money myth. That Russia is like an EU country.
The rouble funds the war and being a fully sovereign nation state. Russia issues the rouble and can never run out of roubles.
Therefore, no revenue is needed. The Russian government is neither a household or business. It creates the rouble when they issue it. Using keystrokes by changing numbers up in the accounts who receive it.
Michael Hudson did a masterclass 5 days ago. Explaining exactly this.
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-rckzfdCNk&pp=ygUYbWljaGFlbCBodWRzb24gZWNvbm9taXN0

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 16 2025 0:57 utc | 157

Whether anyone “wins” this conflict depends on how you define victory, but it’s clear that both Ukraine and Russia are already losing in profound, irreversible ways.
Posted by: Karolis | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 144

LMAO! The only thing profound there is the how deep the myth of Western exceptionalism permeates that delusionary screed.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 16 2025 1:00 utc | 158

Vagus nerve is a laser pointer.
And you’re all clueless kittens {pussies?} chasing his distractions up and down and around thread after thread after thread after thread after ………
Yes vagus triggers your must-respond nerve. Sad that people that post they are in their 60s-70s-80s still have the impulse control of a toddler.
Pls Work on developing your scroll response and give the rest of us lurking @bar some respite from the replies to trolls and posts about trolls.
[and with that, I shuffle my buttocks back on my barstool and take my own adjuration]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 16 2025 1:07 utc | 159

I wanna see what a billion cubic foot gas storage facility explosion looks like. C’mon Uncle Volda, burn a 36 nut Orechnik into that cavern!

Posted by: comrade simba | Jan 16 2025 1:10 utc | 160

@ robin | Jan 15 2025 20:45 utc | 100 / 102
good question robin and i don’t have any answer for you..
@ Karolis | Jan 16 2025 0:03 utc | 154
it would be nice if you cited the source, or are you afraid of doing so?? what else explains it…
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the board continues to be plagued by name changing shit artists.. that’s unfortunate..

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2025 1:14 utc | 161

“They are expected to cut off Moscow’s revenue stream to the tune of billions of dollars per month”
All taxes collected are destroyed – Period.
So there never was a revenue stream going to the Russian Treasury. Why on earth would there be when they themselves create the rouble. If I created the rouble at will, I wouldn’t be worried about a revenue stream either.
Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas will lose the revenue. Not the Russian government. As Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas are currency ” users ” and not “issuers” of the currency. They are indeed like a household or business and revenue constrained.
So it becomes a skills and real resource problem if they can’t sell their product. They have to lay people off and what are these people going to do instead ?
That’s the issue here.
So we are back to the problem of moving skills and real resources around the economy to where you actually want them. It could free up both skills and real resources that Putin could use for the war effort or elsewhere in the economy.
But it can’t be done at a snap of a finger. Even if there are still shortages elsewhere. Contrary to Thatcherism, you can’t move humans around the economy like ignots of steel.
My guess is just like everything else sanctioned the gas will be sold via another country or countries.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 16 2025 1:18 utc | 162

@ Englishman in NY | Jan 16 2025 1:27 utc | 196
correct… things are heating up, or freezing, depending on your perspective..

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2025 1:28 utc | 163

From Telegram “Lord of War” https://t.me/llordofwar/407994
‼️🇷🇺🇺🇦Video of Ukrainian fortifications captured by the Russian army near Pokrovsk is published by Rada deputy Bezuglaya
▪️”Fortifications built by OVA, which no one used: not a single shell, uninhabited, simply surrendered to the Russians without a fight. They force people in front to hold the bush, but do not form a second echelon in ready-made positions. As a result, several people in front die or flee, and the Russians “They are taking over everything,” writes Bezuglaya.
▪️She writes that she recently went to the front and saw for herself how “kilometers of such positions stand completely empty, falling apart,” and units on the front line “are prohibited from planning withdrawal and even using such terms.”

The AFU is increasingly an empty shell of a fighting force.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 16 2025 1:35 utc | 164

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 16 2025 1:15 utc | 192
Perhaps L-Doggy-Dog has been vargas all along?!?! I’ve noticed he (or someone similar) attacks anyone who attacks vargas. The same agendas stick together. Lol.

Posted by: Just a Voice | Jan 16 2025 1:35 utc | 165

For Russia, victory entails the reduction of the Ukrainian military, which is currently being realised. The prohibition of Ukraine’s accession to NATO is also being accomplished. I assume that Russia’s objective of denazification has mostly been accomplished, as the militant bandarites have predominantly been eradicated at the front line.
So, the victory you speak of is Russia’s. And I must point out the bonus Russia has gained here. The four oblasts have abundant resources that will serve the Russian world well.
VICTORY IS RUSSIA’S

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 16 2025 1:36 utc | 166

The AFU is increasingly an empty shell of a fighting force.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 16 2025 1:35 utc | 201
….and backed by a paper tiger NATO!!!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 16 2025 1:39 utc | 167

i think uwdude is correct… another incarnation of lavrovs dog..

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2025 1:41 utc | 168

didn’t take long to out themselves.. there is that, lol..

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2025 1:42 utc | 169

For Russia, victory entails the reduction of the Ukrainian military, which is currently being realised. The prohibition of Ukraine’s accession to NATO is also being accomplished. I assume that Russia’s objective of denazification has mostly been accomplished, as the militant bandarites have predominantly been eradicated at the front line.
So, the victory you speak of is Russia’s. And I must point out the bonus Russia has gained here. The four oblasts have abundant resources that will serve the Russian world well.
VICTORY IS RUSSIA’S
Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 16 2025 1:36 utc | 203
Correct!

Posted by: Fyador | Jan 16 2025 1:45 utc | 170

Just like everything else sanctioned, the gas will be sold via another country or countries.
But if not and there are massive lay offs at at Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas.
1. Transferable skills – People with transferable skills will find work in this current environment. If you can drive you’ll get a driving job.
2. You will end up unemployed. Have to get on a retraining program or some educational path on much lower wages than your family is used to.
3. Or become underemployed and do work you are more qualified for. Again on much lower wages than your family is used to. Probably in the majority of cases nowadays on the minimum wage.
All of this creates a drop in demand in your local area and unemployment starts spreading like a virus. Many end up stuck in long term unemployment and All the community and domestic problems that entails. Drink, drugs, divorce, gangs and violence. The list is endless. Until all that is left on the high street is bookies, pay day lenders, pound shops, soliciters and charity shops.
If Putin had a job guarentee in place. Paying a living wage, pension, free healthcare and childcare. Offered a job to anybody who wants one. As there are millions of jobs to do in every community. Then he has nothing to worry about.
All those that lose their jobs at Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas get caught by the job guarentee immediately. Start work in their local community the next day.
Giving them and their families time to adjust.learning new skills in the process and getting on a retraining program or some educational path quicker supported by a living wage pension, free healthcare and childcare.
It keeps demand up in the local community. Unemployment can’t spread like a virus. Adjusts automatically, government spending goes up in areas that need it. Drops in areas that are doing well. As people move off the job guarentee and back into better paid work.
Because the base case of employment becomes Paying a living wage, pension, free healthcare and childcare. Then it ratchets competition to mach 10. The private sector will have to compete and either match it or better it to get the staff they need.
The economy will purrrrr along nicely. Most things takes care of itself after that. Just keep investing in the productive capacity of the economy to push the inflation threat out into the future.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 16 2025 2:08 utc | 171

“Preventing Peace with Russia: What Peace Is There to Prevent?”
“The Geopolitical Drivers of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict: Revisiting Overlooked Truths”
Posted by: Jake Barnherd | Jan 16 2025 2:00 utc | 220

Exhibit 1 & 2 that #theimaginarywar still rages in the Western media despite the fat lady warming up her act…

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 16 2025 2:11 utc | 172

When it comes to labeling Russian energy sources for export, I take my reading from the pages of US DHS Secretary Mayorkas.
He claims that the US Southern Border was never more secure than during his reign. It should be noted that he also spots a full head of hair and has done so for many years.
In full compliance with that line of talk? (I cannot call it thinking) there should be no such thing as Russian oil and gas. I prefer to call it ‘International Grade’ analogous to Brent, WTI, OPEC basket, etc.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 16 2025 2:14 utc | 173

*With the end of this pipeline Ukraine will lose $640 million rent per year.*
How much in turn do they gain from appeasing the Western overlords? And which monies are more suspectible to accounting disappearance?

Posted by: Call it what u will | Jan 16 2025 2:22 utc | 174

Posted by: ThreadCop | Jan 16 2025 1:15 utc | 191
I’ll be ready to look over your apology (or your lame explanation of how Trump had nothing to do with it) once Trump brings negotiates the end of the Ukraine fiasco and initiates a cease fire in the Israel/Palestine conflict. For now console yourself with the thought of how much worse things would be now if Trump had defeated Biden in 2020.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 16 2025 2:26 utc | 175

What is new? Much ado about nothing. Project Ukraine is a colossal failure, nothing will change it. Trump is going to dump it on whoever wants it. He has bigger fish to fry, such as Greenland, Canada, and the Panama Canal.

Posted by: Mohale Thoka | Jan 16 2025 2:33 utc | 176

Meh, anotheridiot2022 has returned to join our resident village idiot varg arse.
Another noticed how when US does this or 404 drones flew there suddenly means the end of Russia?
Wasn’t this the same old story from 2022? Russia retreated / Challengers / Leapords / ATACMs / F16? Russia is doomed!!!!
Stop and think.
Austria and Hungary are not going to crush their economy for EU, US or 404. Historically, the old Austro-Hungarian empire use to include parts of Ukraine. They may take this back to ensure energy security.
Fuck Serbia, they are too timid to stand up like Georgia.
Slovakia might join the grand Austro-Hungarian alliance.
EU is fucked. Afd is another Zionists project if Musk is shoving that shit.
Anyway, why should Russia destroy NATO now when it can wait to see Trump do that?
This way it can choose to fight everyone or only those stupid enough when big brother nuts and leave.
How did b put it the last time?
“It didn’t have to be this way but here we are.”

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 16 2025 2:46 utc | 177

Posted by: Karolis | Jan 16 2025 0:03 utc | 154
Such plausible yet false propaganda. CIA sourced “Superman USA/USA” bull excrement.
Let’s look at the vaunted U.S. State, California, the “Fifth largest economy/GDP in the world.” Sounds incredible but it is just incredulous.
10% is Manufacturing, but important products like…Hamburgers are Manufactured at McDonald’s and every other Hamburger joint. Assembling “Made in China” parts, distribution plus the cut for the Chosen in WallStreet. The rest of California is Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (flipping), Services like handjobs, nosejobs, haircuts, breast implants, making movies, picking your nose (so long as you get paid to do it.) Then to fill up this supposed $4 Trillion dollar economy, we have GOVERNMENT, where you puts your nickel in and it eats your hand.
Russia (and China) have so skillfully infiltrated U.S. Government jobs that girls are so busy scissoring each other that they forget to fill up Water/Fire Reservoirs, so entire communities burn to the ground, mimicking the Ukraine scene.
The U.S. is Dead Man Walking, Captain Blunderbuss has taken over and has decided stealing his allies’ lands is easier and cheaper than lending money and weapons to Jackazz Cokeheads to squander on Vanity Projects. Sanctioning and tariffing itself to death. Arithmetic/college grade economics says at a certain level Tariffs bring Zero money in to the taxing country because prices are too high to the American consumer and costs become too high to the Foreign Producer. But don’t worry, Captain Blunderbuss will FIRE his Fed Reserve Chairman and Force the new guy to print money to buy U.S. Debt.
“USA…USA…Krytonite…” Wadda Country.

Posted by: kupkee | Jan 16 2025 2:46 utc | 178

This makes me SO UPSET.
I DESPISE my gov and these sanctions that hurt genuine innocents
The US needs to be destroyed

Posted by: Kay | Jan 16 2025 2:58 utc | 179

Whether anyone “wins” this conflict depends on how you define victory, but it’s clear that both Ukraine and Russia are already losing in profound, irreversible ways.
Posted by: Karolis | Jan 15 2025 23:35 utc | 144
LMAO! The only thing profound there is the how deep the myth of Western exceptionalism permeates that delusionary screed.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jan 16 2025 1:00 utc | 184
will bring over something from the previous thread, should make Xmas Karol and his family ponder for a while
“The war in Ukraine was supposed to end with Putin being deposed and replaced by a western friendly government that would give the USA all the raw materials they needed at bargain prices. This would also leave China’s fate in control of the US navy and air force.
It failed and now the USA is flailing about threatening NATO allies with invasion out of desperation.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 15 2025 12:51 utc | 362”
That’s what blinky wanted as a prize for a strategic defeat in ukraine…. didn’t happen, now suck it!

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 3:22 utc | 180

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Jan 16 2025 2:25 utc | 231
I see neoliberalism, which has been on the rise since the Reagan-Thatcher era, as an aggressive movement to dismantle the nation-state by irresponsible international finance capital and untouchable CIA-MI6 Western intelligence collaborators who take no responsibility for public issues.
Basically, they take no responsibility for the public welfare of the people and try to ‘open up’ every country to form a society that suits the plundering capitalists (it sickens me to hear George Soros, who is collaborating with the CIA and others to neoliberalise the world, talking about open societies).
They call it small government, reduce the autonomy of government agencies in each country, and flood society with people who have only liquid employment.
People without stable employment and decent public welfare can easily become slaves to the capitalists.
The unemployed people, which only has a position that can be stripped away at any time, has no choice but to bow down to the money shown by the entities with the largest amount of capital.
It is we, the West, ourselves, who were the first to be internally eaten up by this movement.
For this reason, although the West calls itself a democracy, people are no longer very clear about who exactly their government is for and who is responsible for their community.
As readers of this website have long known, we are trapped in a mere money politics that calls itself democracy.
The people of the West are now on the verge of exploding all over the place, as the essence of the neoliberal movement is to bypass the will of the people and allow capitalists and conspirators to hijack social decision-making.
Everyone is complaining about who the hell is running their country.
Neither the left nor the right are happy about any of this. All we know is that the will of our own people is always cleverly ignored.
Every regime is rattled.
On the other hand, Russia, China, the areas under relentless attack by the neoliberalised West are considered to be those where the old nation-states are still pretty much alive.
That’s why each of the fake democracies in the West that supported the Ukrainian pianoplayer government, which was created in one of the typical regime change operations that the West has been carrying out for decades around the world, were forced to step down, and why Putin in Russia has won even stronger Russian popular will through this war. It pleases me to see it as a successful counterattack of national self-determination in various regions against the forces that tried to bring governments around the world under capitalist control by lying about being ’this is liberal democracy’.

Posted by: Nokaz | Jan 16 2025 3:57 utc | 181

@ 169 Posted by: steven TDS johnson.
Harold Daggett President of the International Longshoreman’s Association speaking about, and to President Trump.
From the ILA website.
” You have proven yourself to be one of the best friends to working men and women in the United States. He is a hero to ILA Union and members.”
https://ilaunion.org/ila-president-harold-daggett-credits-president-donald-j-trumps-support-as-key-to-helping-his-members-secure-greatest-contract/

Posted by: golddigger | Jan 16 2025 4:23 utc | 182

Posted by: ThreadCop | Jan 16 2025 3:55 utc | 248
“You are obviously unable to even read my posts correctly or with any degree of comprehension, because of your OCD devotional Trump worship.”
You just cited 4 or 5 different troll criteria which happen to coincide with the views of more than half of the posters here on MoA.
If you suggest that my being “unable to even read my posts correctly” because “correctly” means “in full agreement,” then I plead guilty.
If you want to be in an open forum where everyone agrees with your opinions, you might need to lock yourself in a room with a mirror.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 16 2025 4:24 utc | 183

Posted by: Nokaz | Jan 16 2025 3:57 utc | 250
“I see neoliberalism, which has been on the rise since the Reagan-Thatcher era, as an aggressive movement to dismantle the nation-state”
I’m of the opinion that George W Bush (who I voted for) was the one who put us on the path to neo liberalism when he signed the Patriot Act which profoundly changed the relationship of the citizen to the State, and then went on to advocate for a New World Order. I agree that the intelligence community started going rogue as early as the 60’s, but 2001 was when they took the mask off and Edward Snowden turned on the spotlight so all could see it.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 16 2025 4:37 utc | 184

curiouser and curiouser
https://tass.com/politics/1899903
Over 2,400 Russian soldiers returned home in 30 POW swaps with Ukraine
In 2024, there were ten exchanges, with 1,266 servicemen being back home
In a first view it would seem to confirm the RF numbers of AFU casualties, more than half 2024, a bit less than half pre-2024
But then I remembered that the kursk caper led to an abnormal number of captured conscripts.
Once I exclude the 594 that ukraine claimed, thank you Z ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/27/russia-ukraine-war-kryvyi-rih-zaporizhzhia-strikes-blackouts)
Then I have a huge disparity for cost of capture.
If I then apply the corrected cost of capture of 2024 to 2022+2023 things look proportionate and compatible with the marines vs grunts model.
And if I further apply the correction of AFU casualties because RF MOD underestimates them based on their own ratios/tables that are much less lethal than the AFU’s (1.4, meaning (1-71%) bonus, implied kill ratio 5.6)* then I get
Double Corrected MOD 2022+2023 2.167.000 (approx)
marines vs grunts 2022+2023 2.175.000 (aprox)
Corrected MOD 2024 842.600 (aprox)
marines vs grunts 2024 842.700 (aprox)
Good enough for me
Just checking out partials applying the same ratio **
Equivalent Est. MOD 2023 1.368.000
marines vs grunts 2023 1.318.000
Equivalent Est. MOD 2022 799.000
marines vs grunts 2022 857.000
* was discussing with milites the starting value might be 66% rounding from historical values and he remembered something close to 2/3 as well, but eyeballing 2022 for specific excess mortality looked closer to 75% (thoough distinguishing covid is not an exact science), so 71% is a plausible number.
** Probably anticipated some of AFU’s deployment of forces, guessed slightly more in 2022 and slightly less in 2023. Was always guesswork from falsified recruitment data and zero data on deployment proper. Or an initial counting from the RF MOD, only KIA at the start, and in that case slight adjustments to the already mentioned ratios, but minor. Will probably use a round 1.250 AFU casualties as price of acquisition of a RF prisioner in the SMO (conscripts excluded)
And that is all for today from you excelmancy seer …

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 4:55 utc | 185

It’s a shame China hasn’t done more. What are friends for?

Posted by: elmagnostic | Jan 16 2025 5:07 utc | 186

Posted by: ThreadCop | Jan 16 2025 4:55 utc | 259
“I’m not so sure about that, but I agree Trump is better than Kamala because I hated her racist anti-white schstick. Trump isn’t overtly anti-white at least not publicly.”
Be careful, you’re starting to sound like a Trump worshiper!

Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 16 2025 5:08 utc | 187

Posted by: Nokaz | Jan 16 2025 3:57 utc | 250
“I see neoliberalism, which has been on the rise since the Reagan-Thatcher era, as an aggressive movement to dismantle the nation-state”
I’m of the opinion that George W Bush (who I voted for) was the one who put us on the path to neo liberalism when he signed the Patriot Act which profoundly changed the relationship of the citizen to the State, and then went on to advocate for a New World Order. I agree that the intelligence community started going rogue as early as the 60’s, but 2001 was when they took the mask off and Edward Snowden turned on the spotlight so all could see it.
Posted by: Paranaense | Jan 16 2025 4:37 utc | 255
Let’s show those trolls how to properly disagree on an open forum.
First of all Nokaz’s post is quite good and deserves pondering by all, if it fails on the date is not, as you propose that it started later, but that it started earlier.
As crisis started in the early 1960’s (maybe 1963), it was pushed forward until 1968 (printing money to disguise it) until the chickens came back to roost and in 1971 Nixon had to do his shock, end convertibility and crash the economy.
With inflation well installed OPEC saw they were being paid cents on the dollar and added another layer of inflation to revalue their wealth.
Inflation cut into wages, made public services too expensive and led the way to the Reagan-Thatcher move to reset things in a more profit oriented model (more profits, less wages).
Yes, at the time it seemed the focus was to have transnationals stealing agency from nation states, and liberals were aiming for a world government to make sure transnationals lost their edge of always somewhere to escape. 2001 is the empire striking back, not nations, but only the us, showing transnationals that they are vulnerable to attacks (911’s form and target was not by accident) and they should throw their lot with the us government. So what W did was truly establish the basis for good old fashioned fascism between major companies everywhere and the us government.
Since then we all have a problem, (or ten) but it’s a bit too late for pointing them out, but the relevant fact is that for the western proles things will start to be very harsh and successful external models cannot be allowed to prosper. And until they can lock everyone in an indentured servant position (unable to move to other countries), it must be assured by destabilization.
Russia was supposed to be a cold saudi arabia, putin disagreed
China was supposed to be a comfy sweatshop, xi disagreed
The west, with living conditions more miserable by the day, should still be the least bad option for the proles, a lot of countries disagree.
And that boys and girls is the casus beli for which the axis of resistance must be reigned in, or destroyed.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 5:21 utc | 188

Ahenobarbus@40…..”you think it’s time”……thanks for the laugh, I’m sure the RF MOD is on it. Did you notify Mr Putin……like you know something he doesn’t?
The morons should have shit and tipped the pot over three years ago, made BoJo walk through it when he left after fucking the peace treaty negotiations…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 15 2025 18:00 utc | 56
Nonetheless, I wouldn’t substitute myself for an experienced tactician like Vlad. Sang Froid, my boy, Sang Froid!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 5:23 utc | 189

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 5:23 utc | 264
The correct way to shorten Vladimir is Vova. Vlad is short for Vladislav.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 16 2025 5:39 utc | 190

Lavrov’s Dog was a pretty darned good poster at one time a long time ago before he went off the deep end big-time and started hating everybody and making his life’s mission destroying MoA.
Posted by: ThreadCop | Jan 16 2025 5:10 utc | 262
Will open an exception and answer you because that is something I never understood.
Never had a bone, not even a fishbone, to pick with him. And then there was something (at the time I was much more limited in time to read the threads) and then he was gone.
If indeed any of you is lavrov’s dog, just take the occasion to return as a constructive member of MOA.
For the others, if indeed he was out of line, let bygones be bygones if he shows up in a civilized way, as someone used to say, better have him in the tent pissing outside than outside pissing into the tent.
Peace and a round on me for those that don’t insult or spam but try to have useful discussions.
For the others, you should be ashamed of putting b on janitor duty
As a final point, if this is just a raid on MOA “for the lulz” , yes, you might not agree with many ideas discussed here, but you’ll never change things by throwing flaming turds into the threads, and if you think you can, and should, really change some opinions, go slow, engage respectfully and know when to quit and ignore. If you haven’t noticed people here avoid entering frays that are pointless. Do the same.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 5:48 utc | 191

@Peter AU1 | Jan 16 2025 1:53 utc | 214
You mention Berhard’s predicament after the dramatic gealth issue he told us about since I take it you mean our host.
Although out of courtesy I think I ought to chut up about it I am curious and curiosity sometimes takes over. So I wondered whether B was offered to see the parasite or whether all he knows are the symptoms he experienced.
Today there are different ways to produce seemingly authentic physical symptoms.
I dont expect to have my curiosity satisfied but I just couldnt help myself.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jan 16 2025 6:00 utc | 192

Guess the French prefer kinetic and choose to disregard Newton’s third law at their own peril…
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/french-special-forces-perseus-exercises-combat-ukraine

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 6:01 utc | 193

Russian oil to India sanctioned. They are still coming for Russia.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 16 2025 7:38 utc | 194

So, General Mark Milley poses for eternity with a map of the Great Ol’ Ukrainian Summer Counter-Offensive of 2023 (GOUSCO23) as his greatest achievement. Losers are now proud of their losing. See:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-fools-war-useful-idiots-at-the

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 16 2025 7:46 utc | 195

Pepe Escobar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFU4GpGA1bk
“I’m gonna MAGA you, baby!”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 16 2025 7:55 utc | 196

So, Trump is pressuring the Jewish comedian to at last start consuming the lifes of middle-class teenagers and early 20s men in order to force both the comedian and Putin to take him very seriously,
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/mobilization-mania-overtakes-ukraine
but the leverage on Putin is weak, very weak, and for the comedian it might be a bridge too far, as in facing a revolt and ending like the fascist Mussolini or the commie Ceausescu.
I guess the Jewish comedian hasn’t yet done the Ashraf Ghani move because American bosses are threatening him, forcing him to stay in Kyev.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 16 2025 7:58 utc | 197

Pepe Escobar (corrected url)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FU4GpGA1bk
Managing Ukraine’s defeat.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 16 2025 7:58 utc | 198

From monitoring msm in uk.
I detect a definate rift between UK and US.
In both directions.
Zelensky is begging the UK for “garantees”
(read he’s desperate) the funding spigot is turning off.
The wells running dry.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 16 2025 8:18 utc | 199

Posted by: UWDude | Jan 15 2025 23:51 utc | 139…

…”If necessary, the U.S. and EU could embargo all trade with BRICS nations or other “rogue” states. This would hurt everyone involved, but the West’s dominant position would likely endure”
LoL. America surviving a self imposed embargo against China…

As you suggest, a “self imposed”, or more exactly, a boycott, would impact the West. However, my impression is that the poster* your are responding to was saying that the US could sanction 3rd parties who trade with Russia.
Bullying 3rd parties is certainly something the US does and I see no reason why it should stop now.

* The original posts appear to have been removed. Insofar as much of the rude responses are still here, I’m guessing the removal wasn’t done in the spirit of keeping the forum free of offensive posts? Copyright issues perhaps?

Posted by: robin | Jan 16 2025 9:28 utc | 200