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January 30, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-021
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Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2025 11:31 utc | 106
No doubt there will be skeptics.
Those whose notion of “victory” have been developed through decades of Hollywood brainwashing.
They will not be able to recognise what we see playing out before our eyes right now:
It is Exodus and the parting of the Red Sea.
It is the seven plagues upon Pharoah.
It is mannah poured down from heaven.
It is the burning bush.
It is tablets cast down from Mount Sinai.
It is the children of god, not merely wandering in Sinai for 40 years but being born and killed under a rain of fire.
We are witnessing a miracle on the scale of Exodus.
It is David and Goliath.
It is Samson and Delilah.
It is Yahiyeh Sinwar fighting against the demonic worshippers of Remphan with his last remaining arm, and as Samson slew 1000 with the jawbone of a donkey, Sinwar slew millions with the casting of a single piece of wood ..
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2025 13:45 utc | 101
102 – The presence of large numbers of Palestinians in Jordan has been destabilising in the past, for example leading to the events called “Black September”. On the other hand, the Jordanian authorities are such puppets that they might follow “guidelines” from the USA – after all, it is what they do.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 1 2025 14:11 utc | 102
Scott Ritter, while a naive fool about America and it’s politics, is still a brilliant strategic analyst.
Hamas has won because the only way they could lose was if they stopped fighting, I have a suspicion that this break has allowed them to get stronger.
The only way Israel “wins” is if it exterminates the Palestinians or ethnically cleanses them from the land as Trump is trying to do.
As long as a few Palestinians remain alive on the land, even if they have been “bombed back to the Stone age” by Bibi and Trump, the Resistance will continue.
Americans are the ultimate carpetbaggers who think that everything has a price, lacking principles or values beyond short term materialism.
The willingness to die for one’s culture, God, and ancestral home is why America will never tolerate or understand Russia, China, or West Asia. It is a human perspective that is alien to them.
Btw, it is impressive to see Hamas winning the soft power battle during prisoner releases.
Zionists rape, torture, and mutilate prisoners. Hamas protects and maintains their prisoners like they are family. Guest “rights” are a big deal in the Muslim world. The “civilized” West has no such conception.
Don’t overlook that Hamas is releasing healthy smiling young women while Israel is releasing bedraggled and dusty older men. That is a powerful contrasting optic. One looks merciful, the other like a brutal jailer.
Muslims usually suck at soft power but the Axis is getting better at it. China and West Asia in particular. Russian soft power is directed at the Global South.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2025 14:28 utc | 103
Since the West cares so much about the palestinians, you should have no problem taking them in.
Enjoy housing, feeding, educating, and providing healthcare to them.
They breed like cockroaches so expect to spend lots of money caring for your newest pets!
Posted by: Lev Benson | Feb 1 2025 15:41 utc | 104
Which behavior of the IDF is shameful to “Israeli” citizens?
1) Mass murder?
2) Shooting of children for sport?
3) Torture of prisoners?
4) Targeting of doctors?
5) Blowing up aid workers and vehicles
6) Destroying hospitals?
7) Intentional starvation of a civilian population?
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1001) Playing with women’s undergarments?
…
If you selected 1001 you might be correct.
The Military Machismo of Israeli Soldiers in Gaza Will Rear Its Ugly Head at Home
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-01-29/ty-article-opinion/.premium/the-military-machismo-of-israeli-soldiers-in-gaza-will-rear-its-ugly-head-at-home/00000194-b380-da2c-a5dd-bfa901140000
archive: https://archive.ph/BHR6i
Posted by: librul | Feb 1 2025 16:14 utc | 105
So just when KSA and Egypt had made friends with Iran and settled internal disputes with their Christian minorities, HTS and its Turkish and Qatari sponsors announce they will built a new synagogue in Damascus? Who would have guessed?
Posted by: Tom | Feb 1 2025 16:47 utc | 106
The Shame of What We’ve Done
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/the-shame-of-what-weve-done-1
“Assessing Jews’ responsibility for Israel’s actions.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 16:59 utc | 107
Given the RoW is a system – note that Denmark (presumably in very quiet consultation with Russia) is moving forward to work on Nordstream. Inquiring minds would anticipate that DT’s bluster re Greenland, EU sanctions in concert with the obvious financial cracks in EU affiliates are creating opportunity for underground tremors in US alliances. Putin has played a crafty hand in the Ukraine, with the secondary consequence of exposing the US as nasty, snapping, viscious backbiting paper tiger – broke, with weaponary shown to be decades behind those of Russia, China and probably Iran. Fusion of US interests with those of Israel, especially as essentially single handedly arming their gencide in Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon, has not been lost on the RoW. The combined reputational damage is beyond measure. Where the Israeli-Palestinian situation needs a diplomat, enter an angry, aging, disinhibited real estate developer for whom power assertion is his only and overused strategy. The US equivalent of Lewis Carrol’s the Red Queen. The RoW took notes re Iraq and Libya – the result is BRICS, Shanghai Cooperative Organization, The BRICS developmental bank. All support the international order, support the ICJ whose dictats not only order the end of the Israeli occupation of Palestine but also require reparations. No one is discussing that the bankrupt IS/US are on the hook for rebuilding Gaza and now, the West Bank.
Of course Trump and Netanyahu want the Palestinians gone – it resolves these issues at many levels. But it is not 2016. 2024 is a very different world. UAE and Egypt are full fledged BRICS members, Saudi Arabia is considering and was present at Kazan. While BRICS is not a mutual defense alliance, Egypt is no longer standing alone, and Russia and China have very positive relations with the Saudi’s. Virtually every West Asian country sits atop populations who irrespective of Sunni or Shia, strongly align with Palestine. Assenting to eviction of Palestinians from Gaza is not only political suicide, but virtually every country is aware of the increased risk to their own sovreignty if such should happen. As the poker game goes on, Palestinian cards continually become stronger.
Posted by: abierno | Feb 1 2025 17:13 utc | 108
Lev Benson @1541 Feb 1
So Lev…perfectly understandable for a given name, to judge by your snarky attitude. The Benson part looks like a bit of shapeshifting…much like John Kerry, whose father’s original surname was Kohn.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 1 2025 17:47 utc | 109
Israel Has Failed: What Now? with Laith Marouf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGdEJiXTqcY
“In Gaza and Lebanon, civilians defy Israel by returning to the ruins of their homes.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 1 2025 18:15 utc | 110
I am plagued by visions from my past.
And I take great comfort in my rational explanations for them.
And yet all my dreams are all coming true.
And yes, they were all nightmares.
Burn it all down? Should we take comfort that our enemies will die at hand of tools of their own making?
The great reset can mean a number of things. A thermal nuclear war would add new meaning to the concept of global warming. And that’s just one example.
Should I dig up my poem titled “I remember the billion eaten? Should I gloat or urinate where I sit?
Hope? I don’t think there’s any hope. But I also don’t think you should not abandon hope. That would be a sin. The future is pseudo stochastically determined. God has a plan. The universe does not care if you are an atheist.
If Palestine cannot be free, somebody should burn this s*** hole down. To a person like me, that might have the added benefit of ending research on AI.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 1 2025 19:45 utc | 111
New piece in the Washington Post on the resistance up to now to pardoning Marcus Garvey makes it clear the the opposition to the pardon came from Jews, alleged!y because the man was anti-Semitic. The piece argues that Garvey was not anti-Semitic. Which is debatable, but also beside the point. Even if he was anti-Semitic, that wouldn’t justify an obvious miscarriage of justice.
Posted by: Lysias | Feb 1 2025 20:01 utc | 112
But shouldn’t it be racist to go against Marcus Garvey?
Burning Spear – Old Marcus Garvey
Reggae Regulars The Black Starliner with 12″Extended Version
Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 1 2025 20:30 utc | 113
Lysias@2001 Feb 1
Have you ever considered the etymology of the word/phraise “Antisemitic”? Considered logically, the term would describe those who hate Arabs and other Semites. Fair enough? When it happens to be propounded by Khazarian Talmudists who have little or no Semitic DNA…something strikes me as smelling a bit fishy.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 1 2025 22:24 utc | 114
Palestinians released by Israel had their hands cuffed over their heads and derogatory comments were inscribed on the handcuffs:
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Following a complaint from the Red Cross that Palestinian detainees had been released with their hands shackled above their heads and derogatory comments inscribed on handcuffs, far-right Israeli politician Itamar Ben-Gvir praised Prison Service Commissioner Kobi Yaakobi.
“The terrorists’ lawyer doesn’t understand how there is a security organization that doesn’t bow down to them, and deals with them harshly – even when it is forced to release them because of a reckless deal,” he said.
“Congratulations to Rabbi Kobi Yaakovi of Gondar for his determined policy.”
https://aje.io/8uw5rh?update=3483548
The inscriptions on the handcuffs read:
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported the Red Cross protested after Palestinian detainees being released were led with their hands over their heads in handcuffs with bracelets stating “Eternity does not forget.”
https://aje.io/8uw5rh?update=3483323
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2 minute video of Khan Younis today:
Khan Younis has seen utter devastation, which requires years to be rebuilt. I barely saw any intact buildings
https://x.com/AbubakerAbedW/status/1885803813619089606?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Posted by: teri | Feb 1 2025 22:26 utc | 115
Hopefully Electronic Intifada or someone makes a documentary of Hamas’s release of the Israeli prisoners. Some powerful theatre there.
Posted by: Chas | Feb 1 2025 22:51 utc | 116
There should be a side by side poster of a Gaza released hostage and a “Israeli” released captive.
A picture is worth…
Posted by: librul | Feb 1 2025 23:28 utc | 117
israel and the Western World are ruled by sadistic psychopaths, war mongering old fools, and ignoramuses with advanced post-grad Ivy League University degrees
see the photo of this poor 10-year-old Palestinian boy at the first link
https://x.com/MirandaCleland/status/1885429806268903572
Miranda Cleland @MirandaCleland
After obstructing an ambulance transferring injured Saddam from Tulkarem to Nablus, an Israeli soldier told his father, “I am the one who shot your son. God willing, he will die.”
War crimes fueled by hate, funded by the U.S., and emboldened by world leaders’ complicity.
https://x.com/DCIPalestine/status/1885337059717529813
Defense for Children @DCIPalestine
Israeli forces shot 10-year-old Saddam Hussein Iyad Mohammad Rajab in the abdomen Tuesday evening in Tulkarem in an attack that was captured on video and has gone viral on social media. Saddam is still in critical condition.
Read our report:
https://www.dci-palestine.org/10_year_old_palestinian_boy_in_critical_condition_after_israeli_soldier_shoots_him_in_tulkarem
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 2 2025 1:41 utc | 118
Chas@2251 Feb 1
Whoever amongst the Hamas leadership choreographed those amazing video ops of “care packages” taken back to “Zion” by their caretakers…along with their snappy clothing and relatively rosy cheeks getting sent home in style…is fast gonna get envied by Hollywood.
However much Western “sources” might try to put lipstick on a pig; the relieved looks on those released Palestinian prisoners, gaunt and raggedy, as compared with the refreshed and smily Israelis, will be apprehended by world opinion as the stark contrast which is the reality of the exchange.
Hamas has emerged as the champion in the narrative battle…particularly when one adds in those smartly attired and very strack warriors armed with captured Izzy rifles. Israeli citizens will tend to lose whatever confidence they were propagandized to engender, after that telling display of military superiority.
Meanwhile, those Gazans who have survived the holocaust will have come to the understanding that the Great Martyrdom has not been in vain. In their staunch refusal to buckled under and break down to Izzy bombing and sniping of toddlers; the people of Gaza have lessoned the world in steadfast solidarity with their heroic defenders.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2025 1:49 utc | 119
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported the Red Cross protested after Palestinian detainees being released were led with their hands over their heads in handcuffs with bracelets stating “Eternity does not forget.”
https://aje.io/8uw5rh?update=3483323
RE: Posted by: teri | Feb 1 2025 22:26 utc | 121
“Eternity does not forget.”
now isn’t that interesting. what a psychological projection that is, isn’t it?
in fact the world will never forget what the zionist scum of israel and their sociopathic supporters in the Western World have done to the poor Palestinians all these decades, particularly the last 15 months or so of genocide, ethnic cleansing, and massive unforgettable crimes against humanity,
& oh yeah, fuck those pig-fucking neo-fascists ben gvir and his side-kick kobi yaakobi!!
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 2 2025 2:06 utc | 120
“There should be a side by side poster of a Gaza released hostage and a “Israeli” released captive.
A picture is worth…”
Posted by: librul | Feb 1 2025 23:28 utc | 123
I have already seen memes appearing on YouTube that portray exactly what you described
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 2:13 utc | 121
https://x.com/MirandaCleland/status/1885429806268903572
Miranda Cleland @MirandaCleland
“After obstructing an ambulance transferring injured Saddam from Tulkarem to Nablus, an Israeli soldier told his father, “I am the one who shot your son. God willing, he will die.”
War crimes fueled by hate, funded by the U.S., and emboldened by world leaders’ complicity.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 2 2025 1:41 utc | 124
Right, sure. Some God is sitting there fixated on a 10-year-old in Palestine and willing him to die. Totally makes sense. What a certifiable psychopath.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 2:16 utc | 122
Alawite resistance group from Syria (shades of Hezbollah) fights Zionist occupiers
https://x.com/RoyalIntel_/status/1885470109088584150
The fall of Syria has created another front for the Americans (Israeli puppet masters).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 2:51 utc | 123
see the video at the second link
https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1885673401370481023
Barak Ravid @BarakRavid
🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority and the Arab League say in a joint statement they oppose President Trump’s plan to move or Palestinians from Gaza “under any excuse”
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1885838537435627888
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
A recently released Palestinian prisoner fainted upon discovering that his mother had been slaughtered during the #GazaHolocaust.
Zionist officials did not permit these detained hostages to maintain communication with their families or receive news from outside the dungeons.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 2 2025 3:00 utc | 124
NADA 𓂆
@nadaa50501
Good morning we are still alive and we will not give up 🍉🇵🇸
See Photo:
https://x.com/nadaa50501/status/1885573573177139215
Posted by: Menz | Feb 2 2025 3:15 utc | 125
“🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority and the Arab League say in a joint statement they oppose President Trump’s plan to move or Palestinians from Gaza “under any excuse”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 2 2025 3:00 utc | 130
Have we already reached the point where we’re going to have to dig around and do our best to find a third country to support Trump’s plan?
How embarrassing. Why, dare I say it is humiliating? No I wouldn’t say that…too loudly.
Does Trump not have anybody at his side that can give him solid advice on policy statements and positions? His two good appointments are looking exceptionally good. Outside of that this is just a hot mess.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 3:22 utc | 126
Outside of that this is just a hot mess.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 3:22 utc | 132
#############
Working as intended.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 3:25 utc | 127
Re:Trump’s ethnic cleansing re-location plan.
According to Middle Nation (Gaza: Prospects for the Future), this is all about a plan to launch a development project in the occupied apartheid zone between KSA, UAE, and Israel, managed and brokered by Jared Kushner’s firm.
It makes a lot of sense given many of Trump’s recent comments and how he tried to woo Chairman Kim during his first term. As a carpetbagging Yankee, Trump cannot understand the connection and sacrifices the Palestinians have made for their land. Trump has no connection to any soil or location.
KSA has been standing firm publicly that they won’t go along with any of Trump’s plans until there is a Palestinian state.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 3:34 utc | 128
From yesterday,
⚡️🇸🇾🇮🇱 BREAKING: Israeli occupation forces in Syria’s Golan have been attacked by the SSNP.
Following their ban by the HTS government in Syria, Syria’s SSNP party rebranded to “The Islamic Resistance Front in Syria” and carried out operations against Israel.
The Resistance will outlast the occupation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 4:09 utc | 129
From yesterday,
⚡️🇸🇾🇮🇱 BREAKING: Israeli occupation forces in Syria’s Golan have been attacked by the SSNP.
Following their ban by the HTS government in Syria, Syria’s SSNP party rebranded to “The Islamic Resistance Front in Syria” and carried out operations against Israel.
The Resistance will outlast the occupation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 4:09 utc | 130
“The Resistance will outlast the occupation.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2025 4:09 utc | 136
Sad for them, our overlords can’t kill us all. The Resistance will outlast the empire. Their killing more people feeds the fires.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 6:45 utc | 131
Thanks for this abierno. I find it interesting that any declaration by ksa and egypt are misrepresented in the Western media, quite systematically.
Posted by: Mina | Feb 2 2025 8:45 utc | 132
136 – Interesting that they have felt the need to rebrand from a secular political identity to a Shia one. The SSNP issued a statement denouncing the way Assad fled back in December.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 2 2025 12:28 utc | 133
The SSNP have a long track record of fighting Israel. Decades ago one of their members carried out a suicide attack on the Israelis (his grave was desecrated by the “rebels” in December, a hint that al-Jolani etc. are basically Mossad in a hejab). They have carried out other attacks and are organised in Lebanon as well as Syria.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 2 2025 13:15 utc | 134
Kernow discusses the hasbara zionists use of AI on social media and how they’re bought turned against them and accuse them of crimes and genocide.
https://youtu.be/32rWSp0CFc8?si=_Xgmz3K8EHqvkKrK
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 19:53 utc | 135
Sorry. Their BOT (AI) turned against them. I think in a general way he understands the issue with training these AIS. It’s really a matter that they are incompetent and not using the right architecture and methodology. We will let them figure that out on their own.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2025 19:55 utc | 136
The best solution:
The National
@TheNationalNews
Riyad Mansour, Palestinian ambassador to the UN, says: ‘For those who want to send Palestinians to a happy place, let them go back to their original home inside Israel’, responding to President Trump’s comments on ‘cleaning out’ Gaza
https://x.com/TheNationalNews/status/1886990497673085313
Posted by: Menz | Feb 5 2025 11:16 utc | 137