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January 16, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-012
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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FAT Palestinian Posted by: librul | Jan 16 2025 14:52 utc | 1 librul@1…..message? Actors are well fed….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 16 2025 15:05 utc | 2 poor peopole eat poorly: starch and sugar is cheaper than fresh, whole healthy foods. Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Jan 16 2025 15:09 utc | 3 Let us hope Nuts&Yahoo stops the nonsense and signs. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 15:09 utc | 4 Sean – lol. You made me laugh good job. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 16 2025 15:11 utc | 5 Pres. Donald J. Trump – Lord of Peace. God bless him. Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 15:17 utc | 6 One wonders if there’s some kind of logical thinking or even endgame in the echelons of US governance. Dispel any of those with this end of regime interview with arguably one of the dumbest/evil people ever to inhabit their office. Posted by: motorslug | Jan 16 2025 15:22 utc | 7 Reposting on this new thread. This is what I have thought as soon as I heard about the ceasefire. Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 15:33 utc | 8 @Posted by: librul | Jan 16 2025 14:52 utc | 1 Posted by: librul | Jan 16 2025 15:33 utc | 9 Pres. Donald J. Trump – Lord of Peace. God bless him. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 16 2025 15:37 utc | 10 guest from franconia | Jan 16 2025 15:17 utc | 6 Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 15:46 utc | 11 I assume Sinwar was an expert in Mossad strategy, so how could he not have foreseen Israel’s response resulting in the ruin of Gaza? Makes no sense unless Hamas expected a very different response; obviously most Gazans wouldn’t have agreed to a Hamas plan resulting in such mass (self)-destruction. Posted by: Ludovic | Jan 16 2025 15:48 utc | 12 Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 15:46 utc | 11 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 16 2025 15:57 utc | 13 Alon Mizrahi: “This sounds very, very dark. Extremely dark. But we consistently failed to recognize the depth of US complicity in this thus far. Something feels off about this, and this is the only explanation I can come up with…” Posted by: suzan | Jan 16 2025 15:57 utc | 14 Biden included some blah-hlah about the ceasefire leading to an independent country for the Palestinians. I’mve not holding my breath. Posted by: lester | Jan 16 2025 16:03 utc | 15 If the “Israeli” hostages actually come home will it be like a hand grenade going off at the feet of Netanyahu? Posted by: librul | Jan 16 2025 16:04 utc | 16 @love Posted by: motorslug | Jan 16 2025 16:05 utc | 17 The ultimate irony of colonialism is that white Christians are helping genocide people who are likely distant blood relatives of Jesus (AS) 2,000+ years removed. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 16:10 utc | 18 Statement of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps: Posted by: JB | Jan 16 2025 16:12 utc | 19 Civil Defense in Gaza: Posted by: JB | Jan 16 2025 16:16 utc | 20 Mohammed Abdulsalam, Head of Yemen’s Negotiating Delegation: Posted by: JB | Jan 16 2025 16:19 utc | 21 Worse though, the IOF continues advancing in Syria beyond the buffer zone to the point where even the ISIS head has noticed it. Posted by: pepe | Jan 16 2025 16:20 utc | 22 Akram al-Kaabi, Secretary-General of Hezbollah al-Nujaba in Iraq: Posted by: JB | Jan 16 2025 16:22 utc | 23 Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 15:46 utc | 11 Congratulations on a solid contribution. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 16 2025 16:22 utc | 24 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 16 2025 16:10 utc | 20 Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 16:34 utc | 25
I’ll take LoveDonbass’s part, Ahenobarbus, and echo you also that you are better than what you have argued here. Zionists would have little to work their genocide with if others did not enable them. And LoveDonbass did not say “all white Christians”. Posted by: juliania | Jan 16 2025 16:45 utc | 26 craig murray from today – substack Posted by: james | Jan 16 2025 16:54 utc | 27 “The ultimate irony of colonialism is that white Christians are helping genocide people who are likely distant blood relatives of Jesus (AS) 2,000+ years removed.” Alistair Crooke remarked the other day, paraphrasing, Just as light has a speed — the speed of light, so does darkness have its own speed. Posted by: juliania | Jan 16 2025 17:06 utc | 29 Excellent commentary by David Hearst of ME Eye. He has it just right, I think. Only we don’t have the ceasefire for certain yet. Posted by: laguerre | Jan 16 2025 17:23 utc | 30 Canuck, Posted by: exile | Jan 16 2025 17:46 utc | 31 Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 15:46 utc | 11 Posted by: Bea | Jan 16 2025 17:52 utc | 32 Pro Publics was one of very few to practice actual journalism and reporting, such as last spring when it publicized the deliberate failures of the State Department to abide by the letter of the law as per direct assistance to human rights violators. Posted by: jayc | Jan 16 2025 17:54 utc | 33 The only reason nobody’s ever bet on an Israeli Cease-fire holding is cause it never lasted enough time to bet on it . Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 16 2025 18:02 utc | 34 Canuck, “Alistair Crooke remarked the other day, paraphrasing, Just as light has a speed — the speed of light, so does darkness have its own speed”. Max Blumenthal tells it like it is to Blinken the butcher Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 18:23 utc | 37 Israel delegation reportedly agreed to ceasefire & headed back to Israel a short while ago. Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 18:30 utc | 38 Cease fire pluses and minuses Posted by: mjh | Jan 16 2025 18:33 utc | 39 @30 Canuck Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 18:42 utc | 40 Resistance Is Persistence Posted by: hole in head | Jan 16 2025 18:44 utc | 41 Posted by: Ludovic | Jan 16 2025 15:48 utc | 12 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 16 2025 18:49 utc | 42 Saw this on the (hated) Meta/facebook: Posted by: mjh | Jan 16 2025 18:54 utc | 43 Posted by: mjh | Jan 16 2025 18:54 utc | 43 Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 16 2025 19:01 utc | 44 What is the Reuters’ intended message? Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2025 19:04 utc | 45 1. Gazan population gets a break from being bombed. Do they get more food and medical aid?? Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 19:06 utc | 46 Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 18:30 utc | 38 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 16 2025 19:09 utc | 47 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 18:42 utc | 40 Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 19:14 utc | 48 Since there never were any hostage it is a very minor script re-write to give Trump a little fist bump for his inauguration. Within a week not will be genocide as normal. Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 16 2025 19:14 utc | 49 @38 Mary Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 19:22 utc | 50 It’s just not possible to be too cynical about this whole thing. Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 19:24 utc | 51 Slime ball being a slime ball at his last press briefing – but at least the some reporters are getting a few words in edgeways … Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 16 2025 19:27 utc | 52 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 19:22 utc | 50 Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 19:30 utc | 53 This can still happen anywhere. Not everything is lost. Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 19:33 utc | 54 You’re welcome Mary (@53) Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 19:38 utc | 55 S’s new post on gaza deal Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 19:41 utc | 56 MAGA 🇵🇸 and Palestine?
The responses consist of pro-Palestinian celebrations and “Fuck Israel” / “Fuck Netanyahu” tweets. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 16 2025 19:49 utc | 57 They took the cookies. I wanted to hug all those other women, too. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 16 2025 19:55 utc | 58 israel is one mutherfucking sick society Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 16 2025 20:00 utc | 59 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 19:38 utc | 55 Posted by: Mary | Jan 16 2025 20:12 utc | 60 re: Sam Husseini Posted by: jayc | Jan 16 2025 20:16 utc | 61 legacy of genocide Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 16 2025 20:17 utc | 62 @60 Mary Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 20:55 utc | 63 Outlining the meaning of US participation as according to “Israel” : Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 21:01 utc | 64 I remember when the Catholic church my parents took us to back when I was a kid started going all hippie in the 70’s. Guitar music at mass, the “kiss of peace” after communion, and the Hebrew word for peace (“shalom”) on banners in the vestibule. Yeah. Shalom. Either the Israelis have dropped the use of the word, or it never really translated as ‘peace’ to start with. Posted by: teri | Jan 16 2025 21:22 utc | 65 https://x.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1879930858339185100 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 16 2025 21:28 utc | 66 GazaNewsNow2021 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 23:05 utc | 67 @67 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 16 2025 23:09 utc | 68 ZH has a posting up with the title
Ceasefire where? Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 16 2025 23:56 utc | 69 B, sorry to intrude but dirty socks with a side of hijacking above. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 17 2025 0:08 utc | 70 No hostages no deal Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2025 0:53 utc | 72 Trump says Gaza”will never again be a terrorist haven”. That means the security state will be implemented. Israel; is not giving up the Philadelphia corridor. Hostages get traded. Some food enters. Trump takes a victory lap. Then we see what the real deaL is. I dont see any intent to let Palestine be autonomous. Smells like a setup. Nutty tosses trump a bone. Theme “we tried”. Getting the hostages back means yhat opposition to nutty emds. The unspoken part of the deal is that Hamas disbands and disarms. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 17 2025 2:13 utc | 73 Post 19 from JB regarding IRGC Posted by: Ering46z | Jan 17 2025 4:25 utc | 74 Posted by: Ering46z | Jan 17 2025 4:25 utc | 79 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 17 2025 5:41 utc | 75 EI Podcast: Day 468 – Gaza’s Al Aqsa Flood Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 17 2025 5:42 utc | 76 Prof John Mearsheimer Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 17 2025 5:55 utc | 77 Yves Engler on Canada’s Zionist Left Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 17 2025 6:57 utc | 78 Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 17 2025 5:55 utc | 82 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 17 2025 6:59 utc | 79 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQ5oZQBfA0
— along with several other well-stated polemical blasts. This one question about their religion is extraordinarily poignant, to me. I don’t like saying “I’m not Jewish” (my Hebrew handle nods to Georg Cantor). I’ve studied and admired the Jewish (in contrast to the Christian) approach to exegesis of scripture. Suffice to say, though I’m not Jewish, I can understand the depth of Blumenthal’s distress, protesting that his religion has effectively been destroyed by Zionism. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 17 2025 8:30 utc | 80
Posted by: Menz | Jan 17 2025 9:21 utc | 81 Peter Cronau Posted by: Menz | Jan 17 2025 9:22 utc | 82 A brief overview of Syria’s history and the constant plots against it. Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2025 11:16 utc | 83 Hello everyone. When criticizing Israel and the “Jews”, a clear distinction must be made between the so-called Zionists and the true orthodox Jews. Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 17 2025 11:37 utc | 84 Iran and Russia will sign before the Israel cabinet Posted by: Newbie | Jan 17 2025 12:26 utc | 85 Where are we at with ceasefire this afternoon … Posted by: Ornot | Jan 17 2025 14:19 utc | 86 Thanks Ornot. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 17 2025 14:40 utc | 87 https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1879926469633487204 Posted by: Apollyon | Jan 17 2025 15:04 utc | 88 This journalist – was physically dragged out the room for asking probing questions on the Zionists genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 17 2025 15:17 utc | 89 Let Biden and Blinken try to take credit for the ceasefire, This is actually a good thing because it will only ensure that it gets done immediately since Biden’s term is ending. We know it was Trump. This should be the nail in the coffin for the TDS debate, but I doubt it will be. Posted by: Deniz 152 | Jan 17 2025 15:22 utc | 90 The crux of the matter is that Gaza and West Bank Palestinian population growth is the real threat to Israel. Hamas Oct 7-lie events, vs a significantly more pacifist PLO, breaks the deadlock & justifies an Israeli two-pronged solution: namely, Palestinian population decimation & renewed expansionism, vis a vis Lebanon & Syria, towards the solution/goal of Greater Israel. Posted by: Ludovic | Jan 17 2025 15:23 utc | 91 This journalist – was physically dragged out the room for asking probing questions on the Zionists genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 17 2025 15:29 utc | 92 For those that missed it – here is Max Blumenthal giving it to that vile Zionist backing shit Anthony Blinken. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 17 2025 15:43 utc | 93 An estimated 15 children per day in Gaza are reported to have sustained war injuries that will leave them with life-changing disabilities, the UN agency for Palestinian refugees said. Posted by: teri | Jan 17 2025 15:47 utc | 94 Throwing journalists out of a press conference by dragging them forcibly away because they ask legitimate questions does not happen in China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela…it happens in the beacon of democracy, the indispensable nation, the beacon of hope for the world, the city on the hill etc. Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2025 17:16 utc | 95 One wonders if that occurs to any, or how many, Trumpericans and Europeans. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 17 2025 17:53 utc | 96 Provocations, which will we see first? Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2025 17:56 utc | 97 @88 Ghost of Zanon Posted by: Ornot | Jan 17 2025 18:27 utc | 98 Posted by: Ornot | Jan 17 2025 18:27 utc | 99 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 17 2025 18:42 utc | 99 Max or Husseini could have thrown a shoe. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 17 2025 19:06 utc | 100 |
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