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January 12, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-009

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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If you thought you’d seen everything about the ignominy, the baseness of the people who are supposed to inform you, you were mistaken.
Michael Gove, editor of the Spectator (UK): “The IDF should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize”.
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-idf-should-be-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-xmppkld8

Posted by: Leuk | Jan 12 2025 16:29 utc | 1

Leuk no. 1
No wonder his party failed. There’s no words to describe these soulless individuals.

Posted by: KingCobra | Jan 12 2025 17:40 utc | 2

Headline: Soldier rescues dog from Gaza
“Tal says nothing prepared him for the moment he found unexpected love in the heart of the destruction”
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/12/25/soldier-rescues-dog-from-gaza-she-could-have-been-a-monster-but-chose-not-to/

Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:41 utc | 3

Major war criminals have received the Noble Peace Prize, so the IDF is more than deserving.
The Noble Peace Prize is a compromised, totally the West- political- interests- and -choices affair.
For the ruling West mafia, the IDF is on a legal and legitimate self-defense and peace drive ridding the world of dark skinned infidels spoiling world peace.
The Nobel Committee is beholden to the ruling West mafia.

Posted by: JB | Jan 12 2025 17:45 utc | 4

editor of the Spectator (UK): “The IDF should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize”.
@Posted by: Leuk | Jan 12 2025 16:29 utc | 1
Remember that Barack Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize (Dec 2009).
Obama returned from his acceptance speech and seven days later he slaughtered dozens of women and children
in Yemen. We weren’t at war with Yemen and the target was not a member of an official (“legal”)
Foreign Terrorist Organization. Obama, with the help of the Pentagon and our friends in high places in Yemen,
did a cover-up of the war crimes.

Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:47 utc | 5

Witkoff’s arrival in Israel followed his Qatar visit, as mediators from both countries work to secure an agreement before President-elect Donald Trump’s January 20 inauguration
The clock is ticking for Blinken/(biden), get a deal now or Bozo
will get the credit.
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/12/1026639/

Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:53 utc | 6

No 1.
Gove (that isnt his real name) is a self serving toady who would sell his own mother (if he knew who she was- he was adopted at 4 months) for advantage. In this case he is kissing the arse of his former Tory donar who now owns that rag The Spectator. Follow the money. Its pretty frightening, the grandee behind The Spectator is a Christian Conservative. Apparently, they believe in the second coming. Hence the support of Israel.

Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 19:45 utc | 7

“No 1.
Gove (that isnt his real name) is a self serving toady who would sell his own mother (if he knew who she was- he was adopted at 4 months) for advantage…”
Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 19:45 utc | 7
So you’re saying Gove is such an asshole his parents got rid of him? Left him on the church steps?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 12 2025 19:52 utc | 8

I’m saying if he had been born in ancient Sparta he would have been left at the foot of Mt. Taygetus

Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:20 utc | 9

3.
Was there not an Australian army dog found happily living with some Afghan family in the 2000s after it went missing a couple of years before.

Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:44 utc | 10

https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-idf-should-be-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-xmppkld8
Posted by: Leuk | Jan 12 2025 16:29 utc | 1
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“Terrorists defeated, tyrants toppled, democracy defended and Ukraine strengthened: None of this would have happened if the Biden-Blinken team had had their way. Maybe it’s time Joe and Antony made amends to Bibi before they leave office on January 20. Words are all very well, but what about something more tangible? Why not nominate the men and women of the IDF for the Nobel Peace Prize? Provocative, perhaps. But as a sign that Team Biden finally recognizes that its weakness really is more provocative than its strength, it would be truly enlightening.”
​Michael Gove is the editor of the Spectator.
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When people of this mindset take control of your government, you know that you live in a fascist state. Oh wait, I think they just did.

Posted by: Ed | Jan 12 2025 21:03 utc | 11

I wasn’t clear above @ 11: I meant Sir Keir Starmer.

Posted by: Ed | Jan 12 2025 21:12 utc | 12

@Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:44 utc | 10
I was going somewhere else with my post @3.
IDF shoot children for sport, but they have a soft spot for dogs.
Dogs rank 1000 places higher than human children to the spawn of the Psychopathic Entity.

Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 21:50 utc | 13

Laith Marouf has just revealed on Activist News Network that Yemen has just announced that Turkish vesses will be attacked wherever they are headed. Although they had been spared previously, now Turkey will pay for it’s collaboration in supporting the genociding Israel entity by continuing to supply it with oil.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 12 2025 22:19 utc | 14

Dogs are most probably all consumed now because of the artificially created famine. I call BS. Propaganda aimed at USA Do muslims really consider dogs “unclean” and not have contact with them? Thats one of the many things said about Muslims when arguing that Islam can only be considered a enemy. Suspicious because here in the USA we love our dogs. If you steal my woman oh well. Steal my dog and you are toast.
Who is more likely to abuse animals those committing a genocide or those not? If your starving you gonna do what you gotta do. Artificially created famine not good for pet longevity.

Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 12 2025 22:56 utc | 15

If Trump manages to end the genocide in Gaza the reality will be that Yemens actions were a major motivator. They will never admit that.
Its a good wake up call for the USN. If Iran had given the Houthis the really good stuff it would have been much worse. Now consider China. Of course Yemen doesnt have a Shenzhen to turn to rubble. Trump wont do that. He likes covert action. All in a days work when you are building a real estate dynasty From Saigon to Syria. Reality TV with the hero Tony Soprano/Trump. They didnt vote for Khaleesa. Dragons are nuclear weapons and the slavers are anyone who dont drink woke coolaid. How do you know they were a slaver? Because their dead of course.
Its hard to imagine a population more victimized than Palestine and Yemen. Why exactly do they get the dragon fire?

Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 12 2025 23:16 utc | 16

JB #4. Yes indeed. Kissinger – Cambodia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Chile coup were some high points – got (bought?) a “Peace” prize as did Barrack O’Bomber who droned some one, often nameless, everyday of his two term regime, plus Lybia, Syria, Ukraine coup, biolabs here and there. It really is sickening. Add to that Killery getting the “Freedom” prize along with sleaze ball Soros. It gets monotonous after a while.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jan 13 2025 0:26 utc | 17

On the CBS 60 Minutes program tonight a segment was devoted to the abject failure of Biden-Blinkensky-Sullivan group to sanction the IDF and the Government of Israel for their violation of the US code for their criminal actions in Gaza.
Specifically they enumerated the violations of the sections of the federal code with regards to the prohibition against the use of US weapons against civilians, and the deliberate blockage of food, water and medical supplies to civilians.
IDF has already admitted that they are completely justified in murdering innocent civilians if even one soldier or civil servant resides in a household to be struck.
Israeli cabinet members have admitted that they are using food and water and medical shortages to denude North Gaza of civilians.
IDF has admitted executing civilians merely walking in the streets in sections of North Gaza
IDF has admitted destroying, deliberately, hospitals in Gaza
Pure war crimes in every single aspect……now lets see what the ICC is going to do about it……

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 13 2025 1:31 utc | 18

US, mediators push for Gaza ceasefire as talks continue in Doha but Israel continues to kill children,at least 70 Palestinian children in the last five days as an Israeli strike on a school sheltering forcibly displaced Palestinians in north Gaza’s Jabalia.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/1/12/live-israeli-forces-kill-dozens-in-gaza-as-negotiations-continue-in-doha

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:48 utc | 19

Ofer Cassif עופר כסיף عوفر كسيف
@ofercass
In the Palestinian village of Mukhmas that is being constantly attacked by settler terrorists and the occupation forces.
https://x.com/ofercass/status/1878420619840127296

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:49 utc | 20

Rachel Blevins
@RachBlevins
Did you know that Israel killed at least 74 Palestinian children in Gaza in the first week of 2025? Instead of preventing more war crimes, Biden is signing off on $8 BILLION in weapons for Israel, and Trump is threatening the Palestinians with “Hell” over the remaining hostages.
https://x.com/RachBlevins/status/1877851535717101921

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:50 utc | 21

Hamza Yusuf
@Hamza_a96
This is unforgivable. 4500 amputations since the beginning of the Israeli onslaught.
https://x.com/Hamza_a96/status/1878483996465631354/photo/1

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:52 utc | 22

Peter Cronau
@PeterCronau
No one could possibly disagree that “the bastards out there” in Israel, who are “ripping the community in two” in Palestine, should face the “full force of the law” in the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
Sounds fair. To deal with the cause of the problem.
SMH report: Minns warned on Sunday the “bastards out there who are determined to rip our community in two” should face the “full force of the law”.
Counterterrorism squad called in as Sydney synagogue attacks escalate
http://smh.com.au/national/nsw/counterterrorism-squad-called-in-as-sydney-synagogue-attacks-escalate-20250112-p5l3mo.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/counterterrorism-squad-called-in-as-sydney-synagogue-attacks-escalate-20250112-p5l3mo.html

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:54 utc | 23

Tameem | تميم
@TameeOliveFern
Translation: “the ‘hostages’ were our pretext for genocide & we didn’t actually want them back, but Hamas accepted a prisoner exchange deal & put us on the spot”
https://x.com/TameeOliveFern/status/1878525231012487353

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:57 utc | 24

srael’s Gaza war costs exceed $67B: Report
January 11, 2025 at 5:32 pm
The economic toll of Israel’s ongoing war on Gaza reached approximately 250 billion shekels ($67.57 billion) by the end of 2024, a report said, Anadolu Agency reports.
Israeli business newspaper Calcalist released the figure on Friday that reflects estimates by the Bank of Israel and includes direct military expenses, civilian expenditures, and revenue losses, but not the full extent of financial repercussions.
The report described the costs as a “heavy burden” and criticized the “failure” of the war effort, highlighting the need for substantial increases in Israel’s defense budget over the next decade.
The economic toll of Israel’s ongoing war on Gaza reached approximately 250 billion shekels ($67.57 billion) by the end of 2024, a report said, Anadolu Agency reports.
Israeli business newspaper Calcalist released the figure on Friday that reflects estimates by the Bank of Israel and includes direct military expenses, civilian expenditures, and revenue losses, but not the full extent of financial repercussions.
The report described the costs as a “heavy burden” and criticized the “failure” of the war effort, highlighting the need for substantial increases in Israel’s defense budget over the next decade.
READ: Musk calls for treating Gaza like Japan, Germany after WWII
The budgetary strain has sparked discussions within Israel, particularly on the reallocation of revenue from natural gas resources in the Mediterranean, which were originally intended for health care and education but now appears to be earmarked for defense spending.
The report also mentioned a recent recommendation from the Nagel Committee, which suggested an additional 275 billion shekels ($74 billion) for defense over the next decade with annual increases of 27.5 billion shekels ($7 billion).
The committee proposed bolstering Israel’s multi-layered air defense systems, including the Iron Dome and newly operational laser systems alongside fortifying the Jordan Valley border with a heavily secured barrier.
The Israeli army has killed over 46,000 people, mostly women and children, in Gaza since a cross-border incursion by Hamas on Oct. 7, 2023. The offensive has left the enclave in ruins and risk of famine is widespread.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250111-israels-gaza-war-costs-exceed-67b-report/

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:00 utc | 25

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Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
BREAKING: A new report by the Palestinian Prisoners Society and the Palestinian Prison Club highlights systematic torture and abuse faced by Gaza detainees in Israeli prisons. The testimonies, gathered between January 6-8, 2025, from 23 detainees across Negev Prison and Nafha Military Camp, provide shocking details of medical neglect, severe beatings, sexual assault, and inhumane detention conditions.
Some of the key findings include:
▪️ Gaza detainees not being held and tortured across multiple Israeli camps, including Negev, Nafha, Sdeh Taiman, Ofer, and Anata.
▪️ One detainee, aged 45, described being severely beaten, resulting in “fractures and burns from hot water.”
▪️ Soldiers “urinated on prisoners” and “threw sewage water at them,” according to detainee testimonies.
▪️ Another detainee, aged 21, spoke about the “spread of scabies” and worsening medical conditions due to neglect.
▪️ Prisoners are enduring “brutal physical abuse,” including prolonged beatings and forced kneeling while blindfolded.
▪️ At Nafha Military Camp, a prisoner suffering from cancer was denied “urgent treatment.”
▪️ The Red Cross continues to be denied access to the detainees, worsening their safety and well-being.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1878482501997350994

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:02 utc | 26

The UN can end the Middle East conflict by welcoming Palestine as a member
By Jeffrey D. Sachs and Sybil Fares
Jan 13, 2025
The UN, on its 80th birthday in 2025, can mark the occasion by securing a lasting solution to the conflict in the Middle East, by welcoming the State of Palestine as the 194th UN member state. The upcoming UN Conference on Palestine, set for June 2025, can be a turning point – a decisive, irreversible path towards peace in the Middle East. The Trump administration would greatly serve America’s interests, and the world’s, by championing the two-state solution and a comprehensive Middle East peace deal, at the gathering in New York in June.
Amid Israel’s shocking brutality in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria, a small window of hope has nonetheless emerged. Almost the entire world has coalesced around the two-state solution as the key to regional peace. As a result, a comprehensive deal is now within reach.
The UN General Assembly recently adopted a potentially transformative resolution (PDF) by an overwhelming margin. The UNGA demands an end to Israel’s illegal 1967 occupation and reaffirms its unwavering support for the two-state solution. Most importantly, the resolution laid out a roadmap for establishing a Palestinian state at The High-level International Conference (PDF), to be held in June 2025, at the United Nations.
Consider how long the Palestinians, and the world, have waited for this moment. In 1947, the UN first took on the responsibility of addressing the Palestinian question. With Resolution 181 (PDF), the UN General Assembly proposed the partition of Mandatory Palestine into two independent states – one Jewish and one Arab. The proposed partition, alas, was neither fair nor agreed upon by the parties. It allocated 44% of the land to the Palestinians though they were 67% of the population. Yet, before the plan could be revised and settled peacefully, Zionist terror groups began to ethnically cleanse more than 700,000 Palestinians from their homes, the so-called Nakba, or catastrophe, of the Palestinian people.
After Israel declared its unilateral independence, and defeated its Arab neighbours in war, a senior UN mediator, Count Folke Bernadotte, tried to resurrect the two-state solution. Yet Bernadotte was assassinated by Lehi, a Zionist paramilitary organisation. Israel signed the 1949 Lausanne Protocol, resurrecting the two-state solution under UN auspices, but then blatantly disregarded it. What ensued instead was Israel’s 75-year quest to deny Palestinians their rights to a homeland.

MORE…
https://johnmenadue.com/the-un-can-end-the-middle-east-conflict-by-welcoming-palestine-as-a-member/

Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:08 utc | 27

Steve Bell Guardian cartoons.
You deserve a big job Michael. This is your chance to shine .

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 13 2025 4:02 utc | 28

Was this already reported on the previous thread? Apologies- I found it on today’s NC links, which sometimes is late to process news.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-approves-plan-to-withdraw-troops-from-gaza-report/3447962

Posted by: juliania | Jan 13 2025 4:46 utc | 29

Anthony Blinken tells us we are almost there for a cease fire every single day for a year. Then Israel kills the negotiator. All of a sudden its radio silence for a cease fire. Now of course theres no need for a cease fire because we are told Palestine doesnt exist. It never existed. its a conspiracy theory. That Blinken told us every day for a year that a cease fire doesn’t exist either doesn’t exist either. Thats misinformation. There cant be a cease fire with something that doesn’t exist.
Gaza is being carved up into three and ultimately five sections. The strip is sectioned with roads that allow death squad access at a moments notice and fortifications. Any human in the North section is considered a combatant. If they try to cross to the south the men are imprisoned and subject to torture with zero due process. No food is distributed in the North sector.
The place is getting wired to the gills with AI applied to control civilian populations and bio metric identification. AI powered facial recognition is yesterdays technology now. Gaza is the worlds largest laboratory for any war/control technology that needs to be tested. A human laboratory where they can be killed and or experimented on with no prying eyes.
Are we to believe Blinken actually believed the possibility of the cease fire? A active genocide and Gaza converted in its entirety into a genocide death camp didn’t raise any questions? Killing the negotiator didnt raise any questions? You told us for a year were almost there that was based on ????
Whats obvious is that “were almost there ” for a ceasefire was just a filthy lie that was to cover a active genocide. Anthony Blinken is a full participant in the genocide and should be tried at the Hague.
The fithy pig shit is quite convenient. There is no Palestine. It doesn’t exist. If it doesn’t exist there is no genocide. There are no war crimes. There is no laboratory. We are served this pig shit and no one questions it? No genocide because “almost there” Anthony Blinken tells us its not? The same guy that told us “almost There” for a year before they killed the negotiator and that fairy tale went away? Why would such a creature have any credibility? He says “its not a genocide” but the Hague the mos respected criminal court in the world says it is a ongoing genocide. So poof now they just say the Haugue doesnt exist any more with sanctions. Yes the Hague is misinformation now. Anyone think that Anthony Blinken might have the slightest motive to lie as a full and willing participant in a genocide? Yes Anthony you tell us not a genocide and we believe you as the sweat rolls down your neck.
This is the hope. Whatever Trump is or has done he doesnt want to wallow in this filthy genocide crime scene. Whatever Trump is or has done he has just a couple grams of decency in him that is shrieking. NOT ME. I wont DO THIS! DID NOT SIGN UP FOR GENOCIDE.
Trump knows the cover story is not believable. It wouldn’t be believed in a shoplifting case. Its a classical case of a ongoing lie where the facts just keep changing Even a rookie beat cop would tear this criminal story apart in seconds. Today lie different from yesterdays lie. They just change the story as they go along. WE find our real soon. Is Trump a man or a pussy who goes along with the filthiest crime possible? Only pussys kill women and children. Only pussys kill civilians. Ironically Trumps Narcissism is the only hope for the people of Gaza because he knows that no matter what he does or does not he will be a filthy participant in genocide if he goes along with this disgusting crime. Worse than murder. Worse than sexual offenses.
This is the sole criteria I will judge Trump on. Will he be a participant in systematic institutionalized genocide as so defined by the Hague. Murdering women children and civilians systematically in cruel methods? Artificially created starvation. Experimentation on a captive civilian population with the newest technological horrors. Is that who you are Trump? Will this be your legacy like Biden and Blinken? This is the only defining moment for Trump. No other exists.

Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 6:03 utc | 30

This is the only defining moment for Trump. No other exists.
Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 6:03 utc | 30
If President Trump made more effort than Team Biden to stop the genocide (which means any effort at all), what would you do about it? Actually, retweeting Jeff Sachs indicates he’s put more thought into it than Biden has for four years.
The “thoughts and prayers” of the Western left toward Palestine have generally been so useless as to be wickedly comical. Why would anyone, but especially Trump, risk anything for such meager results?
By contrast, the fact America in general and Trump in particular deals with the Zionists would easily be my least favorite fact about the place. That would change just about nothing from the ZioBiden regime, though.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 13 2025 6:23 utc | 31

VP-Elect JD Vance Pledges To ‘Knock Out’ Gaza
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/01/13/uvzx-j13.html
“Vance cowed to enable ‘the Israelis to know out the final couple of battalions of Hamas and their leadership’ unless Hamas surrendered to the illegal Israeli occupation of Gaza.
In his press briefing, Trump refused to rule out a massive strike on Iran, which the Wall Street Journal reported the Trump administration was actively discussing.
The statements by Trump and now Vance make clear that the incoming Trump administration is planning a massive military escalation throughout the Middle East…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 7:17 utc | 32

Helmer: Writing on the Kremlin Wall – Is it Strategy or Alibi?
https://johnhelmer.net/writing-on-the-kremlin-wall-is-it-strategy-or-alibi/
“…There is an eyewitness – this is Kamel Saqr who has given his detailed account of what happened, in what sequence and with what meaning.
Saqr is exceptional because he was present as a senior member of Assad’s staff at the meeting Assad held in secret with Putin in Moscow on November 29;
he listened to Putin’s telephone call with General Valery Gerasimov during the meeting and he continued negotiating with Putin’s subordinates through the Friday evening and Saturday morning, November 29 – 30, before Assad and his staff flew from Moscow at 4pm that day…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 8:22 utc | 33

“The statements by Trump and now Vance make clear that the incoming Trump administration is planning a massive military escalation throughout the Middle East…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 7:17 utc | 32
I don’t think so-Trump put out Jeffrey Sachs on his social network feed two days ago where Sachs was nasty on Netanyahu.
We won’t know what the new administration will do till they are in office.
Has it ever occurred to you that Trump/Vance are leading the neo cons on so that they don’t blow up the ME/Ukraine in their final moments of power?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 13 2025 10:26 utc | 34

Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:47 utc | 5
Remember that Barack Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize (Dec 2009)
Indeed. The Great Obama Fleecing that began with a preemptive award for waging peace was then followed up with the bestowal of godlike(but unconstitutional) powers under the obliquely named, disposition matrix.
To us regular folks, that would be the kill list. Basically, a hit list conjured up and applied according to extrajudicial chitchat among Obama and his most intimate national security droogs(think John Brennan).

Posted by: john | Jan 13 2025 11:17 utc | 35

“ The UN can end the Middle East conflict by welcoming Palestine as a member
By Jeffrey D. Sachs and Sybil Fares
Jan 13, 2025”
This would of course do nothing of the sort. After all, how many legions does the UN have? Furthermore, instead of recognizing the government the Palestinians actually elected, which would be Hamas-led, it would recognize the Zionazis’ kapo, commonly known as the PA.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 13 2025 12:45 utc | 36

abc.net.au News reporting on Gaza during December and January has consistently included daily updates on the Genocide.
However, a recent spate of graffiti and vandalism attacks on Sydney synagogues, and jewish neighborhoods, has inspired the donor-hungry, jewed-up, Labor-Liberal duopoly to reinforce their “anti-semitism” mantra.
This has resulted in abc.au being obliged to report on the Lab-Lib duopoly’s definition of anti-semitism instead of Jewrael’s Genocide as such reporting would be anti-semitic – like any and all criticism of boodthirsty jews, for any reason.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 13 2025 13:50 utc | 37

How does killing (semitic) arabs, in order to steal their land, make violent, racist jews semitic?
Is there something they’re not telling us?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 13 2025 14:23 utc | 38

What do you think of the Duran boys latest piece ?
“Regional powers collide after Syria collapse”
I think it is a confused analysis on several points.
1. Air defences can easily be overwhelmed. Even Russian air defence has been breached many times during the SMO.
2. I would argue and debate that a nuclear deterrent is by far a more effective defensive weapon than air defence.
It is quite logical really. If you don’t have a nuclear deterrent your enemies will simply keep trying to overwhelm your air defence. Until they get the technology that allows them to do so very easily. Iran is not safe even with a Russian air defence system.
However, if they attain a nuclear deterrent that keeps them safe like North Korea. Nobody would be stupid enough to try and destroy them or they know they will face complete destruction themselves. It takes that advantage away from Israel. Who has always had that advantage in the Middle East.
I would suggest that Iran needs both to ensure its future. It needs a nuclear deterrent ASAP. A capable air defence that can defend it.
Or there will always be a threat of attack by the West ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:29 utc | 39

The Duran boys analysis is that Iran will secure its future by getting Russian air defence. That’s it.
That Iran should not get a nuclear deterrent.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:34 utc | 40

“‘Breakthrough'”
Ceasefire breakthrough announced by Reuters fifteen minutes ago.

Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:32 utc | 41

@Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:32 utc | 41
check that
should have said “truce” rather than ceasefire

Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:33 utc | 42

According to the Times of Israel
Smotrich is calling the truce deal
a catastrophe.

Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 43

Three minutes ago Haaretz is reporting
“Smotrich, Ben-Gvir’s party will oppose a hostage deal, faction spokesman says
The Religious Zionism party said that all faction members unanimously supported MK Bezalel Smotrich’s stance against a hostage deal and ceasefire in Gaza.”

Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:39 utc | 44

https://x.com/Pal_action/status/1878813025395949610
Palestine Action @Pal_action
BREAKING: Palestine Action Scotland target Parker Hannifin’s ‘state-of-the art’ Glasgow factory.
Parker Hannifin supply military parts to Leonardo, manufacturers of laser targeting systems for Israel’s F-35 fighter jets.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1878817065907229052
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
On 20 Jan 1981, within minutes of Ronald Reagan’s inauguration, Iran released the hostages.
On 20 Jan 2025, within minutes of Donald Trump’s inauguration, Benjamin Netanyahu, with an ICC warrant for his arrest as a war criminal, will accept a deal with Hamas and temporarily halt the war on Gaza.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 13 2025 15:42 utc | 45

I think its now common knowledge, that the PA, is a Zionist/Western puppet body.
“Palestinian Authority security forces have imposed a siege on the Jenin refugee camp in the northern part of the occupied West Bank, preventing the entry of food and medical supplies.
Local sources said the security forces under the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas cut off water and electricity from large parts of the camp on Sunday and arrested many wounded people from inside hospitals.
They said journalists have been warned to stop covering developments in the camp and prevented them from entering it.
The siege comes as Palestinian Authority security forces continue their assault on resistance fighters, including the Jenin Brigades, in the Jenin refugee camp.
The Jenin Brigades said talks with the Ramallah-based rulers were at a deadlock, and that its fighters would not surrender their weapons to the Palestinian Authority.
More than a dozen people have been killed since the offensive in the Jenin refugee camp began several weeks ago to root out what authorities call “lawless elements”.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 15:50 utc | 46

Menz (25).
I’d imagine that the war criminal Netanyahu, won’t be too concerned at the cost – afterall, the US taxpayer will continue to be robbed blind – to make sure the Zionists Greater Israel comes to fruition.
On your (27) comment.
The Zionists don’t recognise International Law or the UN – the latter is only mentioned, or used to further the Zionists cause – and then berated by Netanyahu, when it speaks out against the genocide – only force will stop the genocide and the plan for a Greater Israel.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 15:57 utc | 47

I fear the Zionists attacks in the West Bank will escalate – which this man must be hoping will happen.
“The Israeli regime’s housing and construction minister has called on prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to facilitate the illegal settling of one million Israelis in the occupied West Bank.
Speaking to an Israeli news site on Sunday, Yitzhak Goldknopf urged Netanyahu to “bring a million Jews to Judea and Samaria,” referring to the West Bank by its Israeli term.
He also called for Israel’s genocidal war on the Gaza Strip to be leveraged to ramp up the regime’s settlement construction activities.
Over 770,000 Israelis live in settlements built since the 1967 Israeli occupation of the West Bank and East al-Quds, according to the latest figures released by the Colonization and Wall Resistance Commission, a Palestinian Authority agency.
While all Israeli settlements are illegal under international law, the Tel Aviv regime keeps expanding them in blatant violation of United Nations Security Council resolutions.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 16:01 utc | 48

Both the incoming and outgoing US administrations have involved themselves in the latest so-called ceasefire negotiations, but as completely separate efforts – which should ensure nothing will be settled before Jan 20.
Statements by members of the Trump team give little reason for any optimism. This includes Vance’s threat to “enable the Israelis to eliminate the last remnant of Hamas and its leadership”, as if Israel has not been fully “enabled” for the past fifteen months. National security advisor Walz said: “let’s allow our hostages to be set free. I want to see them walking across a tarmac.” “Our” hostages? What tarmac? Why does he want them to walk across a tarmac? He seems to be projecting previous historic instances of hostage negotiations ending with released persons flown to an airport and walking to safety. Will the Trump negotiators insist any freed hostages be taken to an airport so they can be filmed walking on a tarmac? Elon Musk envisions a victor’s peace with Gaza in role of defeated Japan or Germany with simple proscriptions for the future: “fix the education so that Palestinians are not trained from when they are children to hate, to want the death of Israel” and also “make the Palestinian areas prosperous” through a massive US led “rebuilding”, even as Israel faces massive cuts in funding for health care and education.
Perhaps they should just apply tariffs, as that seems to be the magic elixir for everything else.

Posted by: jayc | Jan 13 2025 17:04 utc | 49

487977th Ceasefire breakthrough announced by Reuters fifteen minutes ago.
Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:32 utc | 41
FIFY ^^.

Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 13 2025 17:14 utc | 50

The ceasefire agreement is stuck on the fact that Israel will not agree to a ceasefire. What they want is a temporary thing to release the hostages and then they can bomb again, and presumably “finish the job”. [Trump, by the way, makes it clear that he supports Israel’s request that ALL of Hamas be killed before there is a permanent cease fire and that Hamas cannot be part of Palestine’s civic teams. There will be no autonomy for Palestine no matter what, just the same occupation and arbitrary murder coming from Israel.]. While there is talk this morning of “breakthroughs”, all the articles I have read still note that the Israelis won’t agree to any complete cessation of bombing once the prisoners are exchanged.
The mere talk of breakthroughs has egged on the IDF to attack more visciously than ever. They’ve killed over 50 people this morning and are attacking Gaza City and northern Gaza heavily right now. Smotrich says the West Bank will be be settled and soldiers were taped after bombing the Jabalia camp in northern Gaza saying that the only people who will be allowed back in will be Israeli settlers.
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One of the main disputes in the ongoing Gaza hostage and ceasefire negotiations in Qatar is Israel’s refusal to commit to ending the war after a potential deal’s second phase, Haaretz reported on Sunday.
A permanent ceasefire has been one of Hamas’s main demands, and the report said the Palestinian group wants the genocidal war to end after the second phase of the deal.
Instead of committing to a permanent ceasefire, the report said there will be an attempt to present a US commitment to “work with Israel towards ending the war.” That would mean the deal would hinge on a US promise to pressure Israel to end military operations in Gaza, and there would be no actual commitment from Israel.
The Haaretz report comes as US officials are insisting that a deal is “very close.” Hamas officials have also told the media that negotiations have been moving in a positive direction and that they were waiting for the Israeli officials Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sent to Qatar to approve their latest draft proposal.
Officials from the incoming Trump administration are also saying that a deal could happen soon, including Steve Witkoff, who will serve as Trump’s envoy to the Middle East and has been involved in the latest negotiations.
Trump himself has repeatedly threatened there would be “hell to pay” if Hamas didn’t start releasing Israeli hostages by his inauguration. Vice President-elect JD Vance elaborated on what that might mean in an interview on Sunday.
“It means enabling the Israelis to knock out the final couple of battalions of Hamas and their leadership. It means very aggressive sanctions and financial penalties on those who are supporting terrorist organizations in the Middle East. It means actually doing the job of American leadership,” Vance said.
The talking point of the Republicans is that President Biden hasn’t done enough to support Israel even though he’s provided Israel with an unprecedented amount of military aid.
In Israel, Netanyahu, who sabotaged previous rounds of negotiations, has been coming under increasing pressure to reach a deal. Over 800 parents of Israeli soldiers recently sent a letter to Netanyahu, accusing him of sacrificing their children for political survival.
“We accuse you of sacrificing the lives of both the hostages and the soldiers. We call on you to stop the war immediately, bring home the hostages, and spare the lives of our soldiers. Let us rebuild the ruins you and your government are responsible for,” the letter reads.
https://news.antiwar.com/2025/01/12/report-israel-refusing-to-commit-to-a-permanent-gaza-ceasefire-as-part-of-hostage-deal/
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Posted by: teri | Jan 13 2025 17:16 utc | 51

Alastair Crooke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml2nv_7FdBM
“Should Trump trust Netanyahu?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 17:28 utc | 52

“If President Trump made more effort than Team Biden to stop the genocide (which means any effort at all), what would you do about it? Actually, retweeting Jeff Sachs indicates he’s put more thought into it than Biden has for four years.
The “thoughts and prayers” of the Western left toward Palestine have generally been so useless as to be wickedly comical. Why would anyone, but especially Trump, risk anything for such meager results?
By contrast, the fact America in general and Trump in particular deals with the Zionists would easily be my least favorite fact about the place. That would change just about nothing from the ZioBiden regime, though.”
All very good points. What at I think doesnt matter . At all. I voted for Stein. So not even my vote counts. My grand pronouncement are just that. I am a nobody. A nothing. I will go to my grave that way. I accept that truth just as I accept the brutal truth about the genocide in Palestine. I understand my opinions are a tiny minority.
I write here because the events in Palestine deeply trouble me. I believe in civil behavior. I believe this could be a much better world if simple civil standards were practiced.
Is voicing truth useless when it has no effect? Possibly. The alternative is remaining silent. Neither has any effect. Silence is what we witness. Growing overwhelming silence.
I believe pursuit of happiness is a birthright. Most feel to let things not in our control to effect the pursuit of happiness as a character flaw. I dont know if they are right or wrong. To do that there has to be a function where ideas and facts are rejected from consciousness. Most do this. Facts and ideas tha undermine pursuit of happiness are rejected on that basis. I cant do that. I am am old. I will be gone soon. I dont pretend I matter.

Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 17:37 utc | 53

All very good points. What at I think doesnt matter . At all. I voted for Stein. So not even my vote counts. My grand pronouncement are just that. I am a nobody. A nothing. I will go to my grave that way.
Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 17:37 utc | 53
See, you’re wrong about one thing. If you can cast a vote in America, you’re top dollar. You have an advantage lots of immigrants would literally fight for. Look at the Palestinians: they resist long after other people would have sold out. The enduring unpopularity of the PA will inevitably destroy them.
You might be old, but you’re only as useless as you feel.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 13 2025 18:16 utc | 54

Stop falling for the puppet show, it doesn’t matter who the figurehead is. Fuck off with the Trump shit, this is a Palestine thread.

Posted by: Rae | Jan 13 2025 18:39 utc | 55

Anyone who thinks that resistance forces in Gaza have been largely eliminated as per the IDF and MSM war propaganda is completely mistaken.
In the last 24 hours several large scale attacks have been made on IDF force in Rafah and North Gaza resulting in 25 Kia’s and 50 wia’s in the various IDF brigades. IDF morale is very low due to the non stop asymmetrical Hamas and PIJ attacks.
If the IDF attacks have been so successful then why have these robust attacks continued? The answer is of course that the IDF in devastating urban area has created the perfect environment for resistance. There are more Hamas and PIJ volunteers than ever. The IDF attacks on civilians has swelled the ranks of these forces.
The Israelis will never learn. This is the Palestinians homeland and they will never stop fighting for their nation and their people. The IRA fought the Brits for over 80 years, from 1916 until 1998, and were never defeated on the battlefield.
Maybe just maybe Trump is realizing this fact………we will see on 1/20/25……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 13 2025 18:42 utc | 56

Swiss intelligence analyst, Jacques Baud, gave in interview and discussed the escalating tension between Turkey and Israel. He felt that Erdogan’s rhetoric against Israel wasn’t that serious because the language of diplomacy from Middle Eastern countries often involves extreme language to create negotiations. However, Israel’s recent rhetoric against Turkey is more of a concern because Israel, is like a European nation in that its rhetoric is much more likely to result in action.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jan 13 2025 20:11 utc | 57

@John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 8:22 utc | 33
So reading between the lines, Russia decided to sell out Syria in order to concentrate on Ukraine and possible further conflict with NATO. Fair enough, Russia is entitled to make such decisions. But many say that while Russia was not prepared for WW1, and Russia was not prepared for WW2, Russia is most definitely prepared for WW3. Russia currently has the advantage in missiles, both conventional and nuclear, Russia has the advantage in tanks and artillery. And most importantly, Russia has the stockpiles and the industrial pipeline in place for war already. The West on the other hand doesn’t have the stockpiles nor the industrial pipeline in place, the West still has to build the factories needed for WW3. And its generally acknowledged that it will take the West at least 5 years to get its industrial pipeline in order. Shit, the West first has to build and de-mothball power stations in order to get its industrial pipeline going.
So, since the West is not a threat to Russia, Russia must obviously be preparing for conflict with some ET’s or something.
Meanwhile, while America is preparing land grabs in Canada and Greenland, Russia let the whole Shia Crescent of Lebanon, Syria and Iraq slip through its fingers. Just let it go because Russia doesn’t need the Shia Crescent. Fair enough, Russia is entitled to make such decisions.
Russia is indeed a “riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma”, no-one can understand Russia.

Posted by: gT | Jan 13 2025 20:27 utc | 58

https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/01/12/its-not-the-responsibility-of-the-global-south-to-bring-down-the-empire-its-ours/
It’s Not The Responsibility Of The Global South To Bring Down The Empire. It’s Ours.
After October 7 many said the attack would unify the Axis of Resistance against Israel and the Zionist entity would fall in short order, but that unified confrontation never materialized because Iran wasn’t willing to take on an entire global empire backed only by a few small militant factions scattered around west Asia.
Now Syria has been captured, Hezbollah is greatly weakened, Gaza is rubble, and the West Bank is primed for annexation.
The fact of the matter is that the empire has been able to rule the world in the way that it has for a reason. It’s extremely powerful, and its ruthless methods of coercion, control and manipulation are very effective……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 13 2025 21:13 utc | 59

Would never watch ’60 Minutes’, the tv magazine.
But did I miss something?
Surprising article from Israel Hayom.
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/13/biden-blindly-supports-israel-sources-say/
Biden ‘blindly supports’ Israel, former aides say in protest

Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 21:32 utc | 60

Alistair Crooke makes the point that if zionism is to keep the West on its side, it , like HTS, will have to control its fanatics, or lose everything. The fanatics would take Likud apart rather than compromise with Trump. Netanyahu wants Trump to attack Iran and Trump won’t do it.
The fanatics would do it without Trump’s approval or assistance, if they could do it, but israel’s military are unable to successfully attack Iran on their own.
Ben Gvir and Smotrich hate the concept of Israel as a State, because they are
terrorists, which all levels of Israeli politics clearly understand.
Barabbas was freed , and Trump is Pontius Pilate. What happened in 73AD?
Rome crushed the Jews. All the US wants from Israel is help with hegemony and it certainly doesn’t want Israeli fanatics getting it involved in wars it would certainly lose.
Allah promises in the Qur’an that if the Jews create chaos again , they will be crushed and subdued again. Same old , same old story. Thanks Alistair Crooke for setting out what’s at stake so forcefully. Zionist fanatacism will always fail. The Creator controls everything. Allahu dedigi olur.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 0:00 utc | 61

They held on to this image for months before deciding to publish now. The Westerm MSM are complicit in the genocide:
60 Minutes
@60Minutes
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Across the now-decimated Gaza Strip, America’s mark is everywhere. In footage shot by CBS News in May, the ground is littered with US-made ammunition casings – some used to prop up tents, others turned into playthings by children.
Max Blumenthal
@MaxBlumenthal
“This is the scene filmed in May by CBS News in Gaza”
So the State Dept narrative managers at 60 Minutes held this footage for 8 months, publishing it just hours before the end of the Biden era, to ensure no massacres were interfered with and no US officials felt the heat
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60 Minutes
@60Minutes
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23h
Across the now-decimated Gaza Strip, America’s mark is everywhere. In footage shot by CBS News in May, the ground is littered with US-made ammunition casings – some used to prop up tents, others turned into playthings by children.
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1878670785398882719

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:01 utc | 62

@alkol_61
Notice how Timour forgot to mention that Nawaf Salam was imposed on “lawmakers” by direct Saudi and US influence. He is trying to portray him as a representative of the people, while he is simply a representative of US and Saudi interests.
Timour Azhari
@timourazhari
Lebanese lawmakers today will task a new prime minister with forming a government.
It’s between billionaire tycoon and three-time PM Najib Mikati, and president of the International Court of Justice Nawaf Salam.
Salam’s candidacy is backed by lawmakers elected after Lebanon 2019 anti-govt protests + their allies and is seen as the choice of change.
https://x.com/alkol_61/status/1878784535162413314

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:06 utc | 63

https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1878851023999218129
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Israel is still bombing Gaza. The US-Israeli genocide continues night and day. Every single day the Empire slaughters more innocent people so they can dominate the Middle East with their little colony. Do not stop speaking out, protesting, boycotting and anything else you can do.
https://x.com/HindRFoundation/status/1878830710015898108
The Hind Rajab Foundation @HindRFoundation
🚨🚨 Breaking: HRF Calls for Immediate Arrest of IDF Major General Ghassan Alian who is currently in Rome.
The #HindRajabFoundation (HRF) has filed cases with the ICC and informed Italian authorities demanding the immediate arrest of Major General Ghassan Alian, Head of COGAT, currently in Rome. Alian oversaw the total blockade of Gaza, weaponizing famine and targeting civilian infrastructure, including hospitals, in acts amounting to genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.
Alian’s public dehumanization of Palestinians as “human animals” reflects his intent behind these policies. With no immunity under international law, the HRF emphasizes that Italy is obligated to act swiftly. The ICC has already issued arrest warrants for similar crimes against Israeli officials, and Alian directly supervised these policies.
For more information ⬇️
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hrf-demands-immediate-arrest-of-major-general-ghassan-alian-in-rome

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 14 2025 0:22 utc | 64

@ Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:06 utc | 64 with the words about president of the International Court of Justice Nawaf Salam
Reuters has a posting title currently
Lebanon’s Nawaf Salam to be designated PM, angering Hezbollah
quote

But lawmakers from Hezbollah and its Shi’ite ally the Amal Movement, which hold all the seats reserved for Shi’ites in parliament, did not name anybody, indicating they currently do not intend to participate in Salam’s government and raising the prospect of a sectarian rift if they remain outside cabinet.
Senior Hezbollah lawmaker Mohammed Raad, whose Iran-backed group had wanted incumbent Najib Mikati to stay in the post, said Hezbollah’s opponents were working for fragmentation and exclusion. He said the group had “extended its hand” by electing Joseph Aoun as president last week only to find the “hand cut”.
“Any government at odds with coexistence has no legitimacy whatsoever,” Raad said. The group would act calmly and wisely “out of concern for the national interest”, he added.
Last week’s election of army commander General Aoun, who enjoys the support of the United States and Saudi Arabia, was another sign of shifts in the political landscape, in which Hezbollah had long held decisive sway.
It has marked a revival of Saudi influence in a country where it was eclipsed by Iran and Hezbollah years ago.

Isn’t the head of HTS also a Saudi? Hmmmm.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 0:50 utc | 65

I just finished watching the latest Nima/Larry Johnson video that included a rant by Bernie Sanders about the genocide in Occupied Palestine.
Bernie said that we have to get money out of politics. To me Bernie was saying the money in politics needs to be hidden again. As the sheep dog border router that Bernie is he knows not to pull the curtain back exposing the private controllers of money.
Money needs to be a public utility controlled by sovereign nations which have politicians that represent the public masses rather than the public few.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 2:49 utc | 66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhaWQVNuWmo

Posted by: rosross | Jan 14 2025 5:01 utc | 67

Hooray, now all that remains is for the soldiers to be rounded up and sent to The Hague.
War Crimes – Hind Rajab Foundation Sends 1,000 Israeli Soldiers’ Names to ICC
Now we watch and wonder whether having the freedom to travel outside Israel as anonymous tourists will have any effect on these soldiers psychologically, and how the consequences will percolate through their families and social networks, and through Israeli society.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 14 2025 5:16 utc | 68

Re my comment @ 69: sorry, I hit Post instead of Preview:

“… Now we watch and wonder whether having the freedom to travel outside Israel as anonymous tourists will have any effect on these soldiers psychologically, and how the consequences will percolate through their families and social networks, and through Israeli society …”

should have been:

“… Now we watch and wonder whether having the freedom to travel outside Israel severely restricted, even ended, as anonymous tourists will have any effect on these soldiers psychologically, and how the consequences will percolate through their families and social networks, and through Israeli society …”

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 14 2025 5:18 utc | 69

Pepe Escobar
https://www.youtube.com/?v=5777QaCsTzc
“Trump and Israel’s BRICS plot exposed. Putin, China and Iran brace for war.”
Col Jacques Baud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQdztB2VerY
“Israel-Turkey tensions rise amid regional upheaval.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:24 utc | 70

psychohistorian 67
Rather than talk about different national identities of Nazism, Saudi Royal Fascism, Ukrainian Russophobic Nazism, Israeli Zionist Nazism, HTS Islamic Fascism, US Zionist Nazism etc , the time has surely come after the Ukrainiam Ambassador visits HTS to state clearly that NAZISM includes in its fold many Nations and Religions all of which are united in their worship of Money and Satanism.
My young niece once started a conversation at a family meal with “Aunty boring; Daddy boring; Hajji (me) boring. ” To which her dad replied ” You might as well finish it off with Mummy boring ” , which she didn’t dare say.
The Nazi world now encompasses USUKISEU and you may as well finish it off with adding Political Islam to the list.
RoW consists of USUKIS’ chosen bete noire of Communism, USUKIS’ chosen bete noire of Islam, and USUKIS chosen bete noir of the undermenchen South.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 5:29 utc | 71

Pepe Escobar (corrected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=577QaCsTzc
“Trump and Israel’s BRICS plot exposed. Putin, China and Iran brace for war.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:34 utc | 72

@ tobias cole,
One thing is certain, the Palestinians have had 76 years to study their colonial rulers and I have no doubt they understand them better than they do themselves and knew what the Israelis would do after the Flood. They must have prepared for years of living underground, holding hostages, continuing to make weapons and have access to weapons and supplies the Israelis do not know about.
No doubt it all functions on what we in our techo age would deem to be primitive but robots will never outwit human minds and the Israelis rely heavily on robots and computerised weaponry.
And of course, the ruins of Gaza are a perfect environment for a Resistance militia and an impossible nightmare for a conventional military and a hi-tech army. One thing to have AI telling you were x is and where x lives, which of course the Israelis know because they issue ID cards to every single Palestinian, including those in the Gaza concentration camp, and when x gets home while homes, roads and facilities existed.
But AI cannot function in the rubble and neither can the Israelis whose only real expertise is in managing and murdering unarmed civilians, but the Palestinian Resistance can. As indeed the Vietnamese Resistance proved against American might half a century ago.
I suspect when it is all over and Palestine is free it will be found that the Palestinian tunnel system is far more extensive than just Gaza.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 14 2025 6:08 utc | 73

John Gilberts 73
The US would love to blame the collapse of the dollar Ponzi scheme on one of his two bete noires, Communism or Islam.
Unfortunately for Trump history proves that by the time you have sorted out who’s going to be the scapegoat, your currency has already collapsed.
BTW this prissy little game by Profesdor of Economics Jeffrey Sachs to “”””solve”””” US guilt at genociding Gaza , West Bank and Lebanon, by offering Palestine recognition at the UN is a sick joke.
I had my knee on his neck for 10 minutes but I didn’t notice he was dying.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 6:17 utc | 74

Question:
Where does the Univeral Declaration Of Human Rights (1948) fit into the jewed-up West’s uncritical support for “Israel’s” genocide and collective punishment in Illegally Occupied Palestine?
Human Beings would like an honest answer…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 14 2025 6:19 utc | 75

@ John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:34 utc | 73 with the Pepe Escobar link that is no longer available
It must have been really good….what did he say that had it pulled?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 6:44 utc | 76

U.S. Aid to Israel in Four Charts
Israel has long been the leading recipient of U.S. foreign aid, including military assistance. That aid has come under heightened scrutiny amid Israel’s conflicts with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran.
Article by Jonathan Masters and Will Merrow
Last updated November 13, 2024 9:00 am (EST)
The United States was the first country to recognize the provisional government of the state of Israel upon its founding in 1948, and it has for many decades been a strong and steady supporter of the Jewish state. Israel has received hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. foreign aid in the post–World War II era, a level of support that reflects many factors, including a U.S. commitment to Israel’s security and the countries’ shared foreign policy interests in a volatile and strategically important part of the world. Israel is also a leading buyer of U.S. weapons systems via traditional arms sales.
The two countries do not have a mutual defense pact, as the United States has with allies such as Japan and fellow members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). However, Israel is among a short list of “major non-NATO allies” and has privileged access to the most advanced U.S. military platforms and technologies.
U.S. military aid to Israel has soared to its highest in decades amid Israel’s yearlong war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip. More than forty thousand Palestinians, including a large share of civilians, have died in the conflict, according to the United Nations and the Gaza health ministry. Israel is responding to Hamas’s October 2023 attack that killed approximately 1,200 Israelis, the deadliest in the country’s history. U.S. military support is also proving essential for Israel during its more recent hostilities with Hezbollah in Lebanon, and with Iran.
How much U.S. aid does Israel receive?
Israel has been the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since its founding, receiving about $310 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance. The United States has also provided large foreign aid packages to other Middle Eastern countries, particularly Egypt and Iraq, but Israel stands apart.

MORE…
https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:53 utc | 77

Afif Aqrabawi
@AjAqrabawi
Israel is unleashing a final festival of death and destruction across Gaza—on the eve of an anticipated ceasefire announcement.
https://x.com/AjAqrabawi/status/1878965995148288372

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:55 utc | 78

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Mike Johnson thinks there should be “conditions” on aid to California but not on aid to Israel.🇮🇱🇺🇸
Manu Raju
@mkraju
New — Asked Speaker Johnson about placing conditions on aid to California, and he tells us: “I think there should be conditions on that aid.” Said that’s his personal view before talking with the conference.
Also says “there’s some discussion” within the House GOP about tying the debt limit increase to the aid “but we will see how it goes.”
Aid to rebuild after natural disasters often is approved without any conditions and with significant bipartisan support. But there could be a big fight over the California aid in the coming weeks.
https://x.com/mkraju/status/1878885889150951465

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:58 utc | 79

Martin Konečný
@MartinKonecny
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20h
Protest in Warsaw against Polish gov’t allowing Netanyahu to attend Holocaust commemoration despite ICC arrest warrant.
Protest organisers said this is “an insult to all the victims of genocide and a shameful betrayal of the memory of Holocaust victims”.
https://x.com/MartinKonecny/status/1878771259846328598
Martin Konečný
@MartinKonecny
❗️Poland’s Supreme Bar Council – the self-governing body of Polish lawyers – issued a resolution strongly criticising the government’s announcement of immunity for Netanyahu from the ICC arrest warrant if he attends a Holocaust commemoration event. Notable quotes(In Polish)
https://x.com/adwokatRosati/status/1878172868451705029

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:02 utc | 80

Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي
@NTarnopolsky
💥Stunned like the true believer he is, Netanyahu proxy @ErelSegal
laments: “We’re the 1st to pay a price for Trump’s election. [The deal] is being forced upon us… We thought we’d take control of northern Gaza, that they’d let us impede humanitarian aid”
https://x.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1878924117723828460

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:04 utc | 81

Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي
@NTarnopolsky
💥@BBCNews
has new details of the imminent deal, which differ from those we heard rumors of yesterday. https://bbc.com/news/articles/cd0jgnvkdyno
https://x.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1879041486316306532

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:07 utc | 82

From XYMPHORA:
“The Zionist Jews behind ‘Foreign Policy’ Magazine“ (Karl’s Substack).
https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/the-zionist-jews-behind-foreign-policy

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 9:54 utc | 83

Imminent deal?
Did they canvass the children?
Surf the dead, motherfuckers.

Posted by: john | Jan 14 2025 10:52 utc | 84

More Victimhood from the Genociders.
Surprise, surprise, surprise…NOT
“It is Us! that are the victims, not the Palestinians!”
Hollywood has just released *another* victimhood movie (“September 5”).
How many has it been? Dozens or hundreds?
How many Holocaust victimhood books are there, thousands or
tens of thousands?
There are more than 100 Holocaust museums and memorials worldwide.
There are day(S!) set aside for Holocaust remembrance.
How many thousands — tens of thousands — of articles?
And what have they learned!? That genocide is wrong, wasn’t that the purpose
of the remembrance?
It is small wonder that Victimhood narcissism has fed the beastliness
of the Psychopathic Entity. And set loose murderous monsters upon Gaza.
But a new Holocaust movie at this time of Zionist genociding would be problematic,
so what were they to do?
They went with yet **another** “terrorism at the Munich Olympics” movie.
No surprises there.
Will be interested to learn if they failed to mention, even
fleetingly, the randomly chosen 250 Palestinian women, children
and old people “Israel” murdered in immediate retaliation.

Posted by: librul | Jan 14 2025 11:52 utc | 85

Hollywood has just released *another* victimhood movie (“September 5”).
Posted by: librul | Jan 14 2025 11:52 utc | 86
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I saw the trailer for that movie recently and was disgusted. It’s being run just before the popular new Dylan movie. September 5 is part of a major propaganda campaign to restore the image of Israel while it commits genocide. I expect an Exodus type epic is on the Hollywood drawing boards right now to show us how the jews are such kind and generous and humanitarian people that they are like gods who should be worshipped. It won’t take long for Israel to restore its fake image in the USA but it may be more difficult in the rest of the world.

Posted by: Chas | Jan 14 2025 16:05 utc | 86

My 2 cents:
No deal.
Both will blame the other.
Too much peripheral energy building up in resistance groups.
Too much pressure to destroy Israel.
It all depends the nod or not from the Muslim Brotherhood. And I doubt they’re feeling generous at the moment.
Nevertheless, I’ve been wrong before as I was with Hezbollah ceasefire. I didn’t see Hezbollah putting up with more than 3 days of Israeli violations… I remain stunned that they did and continue too.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 14 2025 16:15 utc | 87

Gaza War 465: End in Sight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQCpwwRsQ-A
“The enemy will be defeated…dragging its tail in shame.” – Abu Obeida

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 19:23 utc | 88

Gaza War #465: End in Sight? (url corrected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQGpwwRsQ-A

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 19:26 utc | 89

Big news. It’s only surprising in so much as the evidence has come out.
Evidence Tying Israel to 9/11.
The CJ Werleman Show
https://youtu.be/aic8E6Oypuk?si=D16tIqWF_GwrRsQ8
We all remember those dancing Israelis immediately after the 9/11 attack. If you don’t, these were five Israeli citizens that had set up cameras to film the destruction of the Twin Towers. They were observed dancing and celebrating well they did this and were reported to police. Ultimately they were returned to Israel.
What’s new is that we are provided with more details on what happened during their detention by the FBI. What’s remarkable is there is footage of them on Israeli TV admitting that they were there to document the destruction. To documented it. Because they knew about it in advance.
These are the guys that stated, “We are not your enemy, the Palestinians are.”

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:43 utc | 90

“So many keyboard warrior-philosopher-wannabe’s post here…heheheh…you’re truly legends in your own minds!”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 14 2025 16:55 utc | 89
That does not sound like the Tom I know. In particular notice the trademark Hasbara ‘hehehehe’. A zionist in Israel.
Was that you Tom?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:46 utc | 91

Good news everyone, even blinky of the no brain says it was for nothing
“That’s exactly what’s happened in northern Gaza since October 7. Each time Israel completes its military operations and pulls back, Hamas militants regroup and re-emerge because there’s nothing else to fill the void. Indeed, we assess that Hamas has recruited almost as many new militants as it has lost. That is a recipe for an enduring insurgency and perpetual war.”
https://tass.com/world/1899237

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 14 2025 21:49 utc | 92

” It won’t take long for Israel to restore its fake image in the USA but it may be more difficult in the rest of the world.”
Posted by: Chas | Jan 14 2025 16:05 utc | 87
Where is Mel Gibsons when you need him? He is from Hollywood so you will have to forgive him for not knowing the difference between a Jew and a Zionist.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:49 utc | 93

“[The deal] is being forced upon us… We thought we’d take control of northern Gaza, that they’d let us impede humanitarian aid”
https://x.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1878924117723828460
Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:04 utc | 82
I find it a frustrating deliberate distraction always talking about these deals with agreement incapable entities. What I would like to know if you think it would happen?
Nah. If it did happen it’s only benefits are getting some Aid in and rearming. However it’s a disadvantage giving the evil entity time to adapt its military strategies and Technology.
If anyone should hear stories that hear about Charlie Brown and Lucy, it’s a cartoon meme. Lucy holds an American football for Charlie to kick what’s called a field goal. At the last instant she pulls it away and Charlie kicks nothing flying onto his backside. The point is that Charlie never learned. Ever. He falls for it every time.
This is something that a small child learns. We call this appropriate trust, where your degree of trust is determined by behavior in social interactions. A concept that Charlie Brown can’t quite grasp.
I have yet to see a single indication of any change to the geopolitical ideologies in play. I hope I’m wrong.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:59 utc | 94

My apologies Menz, I didn’t mean to sound condescending or patronizing. You have my utmost respect. My intent was to illustrate how westerners might conceptualize these issues.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 22:02 utc | 95

Thank you David, no apologies necessary.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:53 utc | 96

The Palestinian Authority’s Assault on the West Bank Resistance
For six weeks, PA security forces have laid siege to Jenin in their longest and most lethal campaign in recent memory.
Mariam Barghouti
Jan 14, 2025
JENIN—On December 28, 21-year-old Palestinian journalist Shatha Sabbagh was standing on the stairs of her home on the outskirts of the Jenin refugee camp when she was shot and killed. The bullets weren’t fired by Israeli troops but, according to eyewitnesses and forensic evidence, by Palestinian Authority security forces. The Palestinian Authority has been conducting a large-scale military operation in Jenin since early December, dubbing it “Operation Homeland Protection.”
A stronghold of Palestinian armed resistance in the occupied West Bank, the city of Jenin and the refugee camp within it have been repeatedly raided, bombed, and besieged by the Israeli military in an attempt to crush the Jenin Brigade—a politically diverse militant group of mostly third-generation refugees who believe armed resistance is key to liberating Palestinian lands from Israeli occupation and annexation. Over the past 15 months, the Israeli military has killed at least 225 Palestinians in Jenin, making it the deadliest area in the West Bank.
But the current operation, which is being billed as a campaign to “restore law and order,” is the longest and most lethal assault by Palestinian security forces in recent memory. While the PA claims to be rooting out armed factions and individuals accused of being “Iranian-backed outlaws,” according to multiple residents and eyewitnesses, the operation is a suffocating siege, with indiscriminate violence, mass arrests, and collective punishment.
Sixteen Palestinians have been killed so far, with security forces setting up checkpoints around the city and refugee camp, cutting electricity to the area, and engaging in fierce gun battles. Among those killed are six members of the security forces and one resistance fighter, Yazeed Ja’aysa. Yet the overwhelming majority of those killed have been civilians, including Sabbagh, and at least three children: Majd Zeidan, 16, Qasm Hajj, 14, and Mohammad Al-Amer, 13.
“It’s reached levels I have never seen before. Even journalists aren’t allowed to cover it,” M., 24, a local journalist and resident of Jenin, told Drop Site News on condition of anonymity for fear of being arrested or targeted by PA security forces. Dozens of residents, including journalists, have been arrested from Jenin and across the West Bank by the PA in the past six weeks under the pretext of supporting the so-called Iranian-backed “outlaws.”
PA security forces spokesperson Brigadier General Anwar Rajab has justified the assault as “in response to the supreme national interest of the Palestinian people, and within the framework of ongoing continued efforts to maintain security and civil peace, establish the rule of law, and eradicate sedition and chaos.”
But the real aim, residents say, is to crush Palestinian armed resistance at the behest of Israel. Dubbed the “Wasps’ Nest” by Israeli officials, Jenin refugee camp has posed a constant threat to Israel’s settler colonial project.

MORE…
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/palestinian-authority-west-bank-jenin-assault

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:56 utc | 97

Ian Carroll
@IanCarrollShow
Criticize Israel on social media and you immediately get accounts like “Awesome Jew” doxing your 70+ year old parents.
Totally not mob tactics.
Something something gods chosen people something something most moral army.
Not a good look awesome Jew.
Criticize Americas government, I won’t take it personally. Hell, I’ll help.
Israel though… can’t criticize them. They’re perfect or else we’ll harass your elderly parents.
This only proves my point. This isn’t normal.
And awesome jewelry should have been banned for this exact behavior months ago, years ago. I am far from the first.
See Image:
https://x.com/IanCarrollShow/status/1878940863449190593

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:57 utc | 98

Hala Jaber
@HalaJaber
⚡️ So Israel is now ready for a ceasefire & to swap prisoners for POWs held by Hamas, the essence of the same basic offer put to them 15 months ago? This alone, proves it was never about the “hostages,” but more about “cleansing” as many Palestinians as they can, while turning Gaza into an uninhabitable area.
To think that an entire genocide could have been avoided, thousands of lives spared if only it had the sense to agree to this simple equation from the start.
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1879150683284193308

Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:58 utc | 99

Dan Cohen
@dancohen3000
I examined all evidence I could find of mass graves in Syria.
Jolani’s HTS and ISIS are responsible for mass graves all over the country while the Assad govt is responsible for one.
The “international community” only wants to prosecute Assad officials
https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1879240193078919483
Article Link:
https://www.uncaptured.media/p/syria-psyop-theater-mass-graves-mass

Posted by: Menz | Jan 15 2025 0:00 utc | 100