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January 12, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-009
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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If you thought you’d seen everything about the ignominy, the baseness of the people who are supposed to inform you, you were mistaken. Posted by: Leuk | Jan 12 2025 16:29 utc | 1 Leuk no. 1 Posted by: KingCobra | Jan 12 2025 17:40 utc | 2 Headline: Soldier rescues dog from Gaza Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:41 utc | 3 Major war criminals have received the Noble Peace Prize, so the IDF is more than deserving. Posted by: JB | Jan 12 2025 17:45 utc | 4 editor of the Spectator (UK): “The IDF should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize”. Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:47 utc | 5 Witkoff’s arrival in Israel followed his Qatar visit, as mediators from both countries work to secure an agreement before President-elect Donald Trump’s January 20 inauguration Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:53 utc | 6 No 1. Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 19:45 utc | 7 “No 1. Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 12 2025 19:52 utc | 8 I’m saying if he had been born in ancient Sparta he would have been left at the foot of Mt. Taygetus Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:20 utc | 9 3. Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:44 utc | 10 https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-idf-should-be-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-xmppkld8 Posted by: Ed | Jan 12 2025 21:03 utc | 11 @Posted by: Cavery | Jan 12 2025 20:44 utc | 10 Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 21:50 utc | 13 Laith Marouf has just revealed on Activist News Network that Yemen has just announced that Turkish vesses will be attacked wherever they are headed. Although they had been spared previously, now Turkey will pay for it’s collaboration in supporting the genociding Israel entity by continuing to supply it with oil. Dogs are most probably all consumed now because of the artificially created famine. I call BS. Propaganda aimed at USA Do muslims really consider dogs “unclean” and not have contact with them? Thats one of the many things said about Muslims when arguing that Islam can only be considered a enemy. Suspicious because here in the USA we love our dogs. If you steal my woman oh well. Steal my dog and you are toast. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 12 2025 22:56 utc | 15 If Trump manages to end the genocide in Gaza the reality will be that Yemens actions were a major motivator. They will never admit that. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 12 2025 23:16 utc | 16 JB #4. Yes indeed. Kissinger – Cambodia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Chile coup were some high points – got (bought?) a “Peace” prize as did Barrack O’Bomber who droned some one, often nameless, everyday of his two term regime, plus Lybia, Syria, Ukraine coup, biolabs here and there. It really is sickening. Add to that Killery getting the “Freedom” prize along with sleaze ball Soros. It gets monotonous after a while. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jan 13 2025 0:26 utc | 17 On the CBS 60 Minutes program tonight a segment was devoted to the abject failure of Biden-Blinkensky-Sullivan group to sanction the IDF and the Government of Israel for their violation of the US code for their criminal actions in Gaza. Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 13 2025 1:31 utc | 18 US, mediators push for Gaza ceasefire as talks continue in Doha but Israel continues to kill children,at least 70 Palestinian children in the last five days as an Israeli strike on a school sheltering forcibly displaced Palestinians in north Gaza’s Jabalia. Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:48 utc | 19 Ofer Cassif עופר כסיף عوفر كسيف Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:49 utc | 20 Rachel Blevins Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:50 utc | 21 Hamza Yusuf Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:52 utc | 22 Peter Cronau Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:54 utc | 23 Tameem | تميم Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 2:57 utc | 24 srael’s Gaza war costs exceed $67B: Report Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:00 utc | 25 Square profile picture Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:02 utc | 26 The UN can end the Middle East conflict by welcoming Palestine as a member Posted by: Menz | Jan 13 2025 3:08 utc | 27 Steve Bell Guardian cartoons. Posted by: Giyane | Jan 13 2025 4:02 utc | 28 Was this already reported on the previous thread? Apologies- I found it on today’s NC links, which sometimes is late to process news. Posted by: juliania | Jan 13 2025 4:46 utc | 29 Anthony Blinken tells us we are almost there for a cease fire every single day for a year. Then Israel kills the negotiator. All of a sudden its radio silence for a cease fire. Now of course theres no need for a cease fire because we are told Palestine doesnt exist. It never existed. its a conspiracy theory. That Blinken told us every day for a year that a cease fire doesn’t exist either doesn’t exist either. Thats misinformation. There cant be a cease fire with something that doesn’t exist. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 6:03 utc | 30 This is the only defining moment for Trump. No other exists. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 13 2025 6:23 utc | 31 VP-Elect JD Vance Pledges To ‘Knock Out’ Gaza Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 7:17 utc | 32 Helmer: Writing on the Kremlin Wall – Is it Strategy or Alibi? Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 8:22 utc | 33 “The statements by Trump and now Vance make clear that the incoming Trump administration is planning a massive military escalation throughout the Middle East…” Posted by: librul | Jan 12 2025 17:47 utc | 5 Posted by: john | Jan 13 2025 11:17 utc | 35 “ The UN can end the Middle East conflict by welcoming Palestine as a member Posted by: malenkov | Jan 13 2025 12:45 utc | 36 abc.net.au News reporting on Gaza during December and January has consistently included daily updates on the Genocide. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 13 2025 13:50 utc | 37 How does killing (semitic) arabs, in order to steal their land, make violent, racist jews semitic? Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 13 2025 14:23 utc | 38 What do you think of the Duran boys latest piece ? Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:29 utc | 39 The Duran boys analysis is that Iran will secure its future by getting Russian air defence. That’s it. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jan 13 2025 14:34 utc | 40 “‘Breakthrough'” Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:32 utc | 41 @Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:32 utc | 41 Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:33 utc | 42 According to the Times of Israel Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:35 utc | 43 Three minutes ago Haaretz is reporting Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 15:39 utc | 44 https://x.com/Pal_action/status/1878813025395949610 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 13 2025 15:42 utc | 45 I think its now common knowledge, that the PA, is a Zionist/Western puppet body. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 15:50 utc | 46 Menz (25). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 15:57 utc | 47 I fear the Zionists attacks in the West Bank will escalate – which this man must be hoping will happen. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 13 2025 16:01 utc | 48 Both the incoming and outgoing US administrations have involved themselves in the latest so-called ceasefire negotiations, but as completely separate efforts – which should ensure nothing will be settled before Jan 20. Posted by: jayc | Jan 13 2025 17:04 utc | 49 487977th Ceasefire breakthrough announced by Reuters fifteen minutes ago. Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 13 2025 17:14 utc | 50 The ceasefire agreement is stuck on the fact that Israel will not agree to a ceasefire. What they want is a temporary thing to release the hostages and then they can bomb again, and presumably “finish the job”. [Trump, by the way, makes it clear that he supports Israel’s request that ALL of Hamas be killed before there is a permanent cease fire and that Hamas cannot be part of Palestine’s civic teams. There will be no autonomy for Palestine no matter what, just the same occupation and arbitrary murder coming from Israel.]. While there is talk this morning of “breakthroughs”, all the articles I have read still note that the Israelis won’t agree to any complete cessation of bombing once the prisoners are exchanged. Posted by: teri | Jan 13 2025 17:16 utc | 51 Alastair Crooke Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 17:28 utc | 52 “If President Trump made more effort than Team Biden to stop the genocide (which means any effort at all), what would you do about it? Actually, retweeting Jeff Sachs indicates he’s put more thought into it than Biden has for four years. Posted by: YogitheYankeeBear | Jan 13 2025 17:37 utc | 53 All very good points. What at I think doesnt matter . At all. I voted for Stein. So not even my vote counts. My grand pronouncement are just that. I am a nobody. A nothing. I will go to my grave that way. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 13 2025 18:16 utc | 54 Stop falling for the puppet show, it doesn’t matter who the figurehead is. Fuck off with the Trump shit, this is a Palestine thread. Posted by: Rae | Jan 13 2025 18:39 utc | 55 Anyone who thinks that resistance forces in Gaza have been largely eliminated as per the IDF and MSM war propaganda is completely mistaken. Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 13 2025 18:42 utc | 56 Swiss intelligence analyst, Jacques Baud, gave in interview and discussed the escalating tension between Turkey and Israel. He felt that Erdogan’s rhetoric against Israel wasn’t that serious because the language of diplomacy from Middle Eastern countries often involves extreme language to create negotiations. However, Israel’s recent rhetoric against Turkey is more of a concern because Israel, is like a European nation in that its rhetoric is much more likely to result in action. Posted by: Turk 152 | Jan 13 2025 20:11 utc | 57 @John Gilberts | Jan 13 2025 8:22 utc | 33 Posted by: gT | Jan 13 2025 20:27 utc | 58 https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/01/12/its-not-the-responsibility-of-the-global-south-to-bring-down-the-empire-its-ours/ Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 13 2025 21:13 utc | 59 Would never watch ’60 Minutes’, the tv magazine. Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2025 21:32 utc | 60 Alistair Crooke makes the point that if zionism is to keep the West on its side, it , like HTS, will have to control its fanatics, or lose everything. The fanatics would take Likud apart rather than compromise with Trump. Netanyahu wants Trump to attack Iran and Trump won’t do it. Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 0:00 utc | 61 They held on to this image for months before deciding to publish now. The Westerm MSM are complicit in the genocide: Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:01 utc | 62 @alkol_61 Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:06 utc | 63 https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1878851023999218129 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 14 2025 0:22 utc | 64 @ Menz | Jan 14 2025 0:06 utc | 64 with the words about president of the International Court of Justice Nawaf Salam
Isn’t the head of HTS also a Saudi? Hmmmm. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 0:50 utc | 65 I just finished watching the latest Nima/Larry Johnson video that included a rant by Bernie Sanders about the genocide in Occupied Palestine. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 2:49 utc | 66 Hooray, now all that remains is for the soldiers to be rounded up and sent to The Hague. Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 14 2025 5:16 utc | 68 Re my comment @ 69: sorry, I hit Post instead of Preview:
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Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 14 2025 5:18 utc | 69 Pepe Escobar Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:24 utc | 70 psychohistorian 67 Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 5:29 utc | 71 Pepe Escobar (corrected) Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:34 utc | 72 @ tobias cole, John Gilberts 73 Posted by: Giyane | Jan 14 2025 6:17 utc | 74 Question: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 14 2025 6:19 utc | 75 @ John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 5:34 utc | 73 with the Pepe Escobar link that is no longer available Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2025 6:44 utc | 76 U.S. Aid to Israel in Four Charts Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:53 utc | 77 Afif Aqrabawi Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:55 utc | 78 Glenn Greenwald Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 7:58 utc | 79 Martin Konečný Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:02 utc | 80 Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:04 utc | 81 Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 8:07 utc | 82 From XYMPHORA: Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 9:54 utc | 83 Imminent deal? Posted by: john | Jan 14 2025 10:52 utc | 84 More Victimhood from the Genociders. Posted by: librul | Jan 14 2025 11:52 utc | 85 Hollywood has just released *another* victimhood movie (“September 5”). Posted by: Chas | Jan 14 2025 16:05 utc | 86 My 2 cents: Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 14 2025 16:15 utc | 87 Gaza War 465: End in Sight? Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 19:23 utc | 88 Gaza War #465: End in Sight? (url corrected) Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 14 2025 19:26 utc | 89 Big news. It’s only surprising in so much as the evidence has come out. Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:43 utc | 90 “So many keyboard warrior-philosopher-wannabe’s post here…heheheh…you’re truly legends in your own minds!” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:46 utc | 91 Good news everyone, even blinky of the no brain says it was for nothing Posted by: Newbie | Jan 14 2025 21:49 utc | 92 ” It won’t take long for Israel to restore its fake image in the USA but it may be more difficult in the rest of the world.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:49 utc | 93 “[The deal] is being forced upon us… We thought we’d take control of northern Gaza, that they’d let us impede humanitarian aid” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 21:59 utc | 94 My apologies Menz, I didn’t mean to sound condescending or patronizing. You have my utmost respect. My intent was to illustrate how westerners might conceptualize these issues. Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 14 2025 22:02 utc | 95 The Palestinian Authority’s Assault on the West Bank Resistance Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:56 utc | 97 Ian Carroll Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:57 utc | 98 Hala Jaber Posted by: Menz | Jan 14 2025 23:58 utc | 99 Dan Cohen Posted by: Menz | Jan 15 2025 0:00 utc | 100 |
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