Israel has succeeded in doing what the Holocaust deniers never could
@Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 5 2025 13:41 utc | 2
And “Israel’s” supporters have become deniers themselves,
intimidating and silencing anyone that uses the word genocide
to describe “Israel’s” actions in Gaza.

Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 13:49 utc | 3

@1 librul
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-irreproachable-victim-and-the-cruel-grammar-of-zionist-capitalism/
I strongly disagree with many of the views in this article. I even more disagree with the philosophical salon in general. It’s a place for modern liberals philanthropicals like Slavoj Zizek. Nevertheless the article makes some interesting points, especially in it’s early part. The “shoot and weep”-ideology that justifies any cruelty if you feel remorse after the fact. Also the victim-culture that has been fed over so many decades, that jews feel as victims while they holocaust an entire people. To them that is real. We all construct our reality both individually and as social groups, small and big. This is what ideology does to everyone on the planet. There is no escape from ideology, only exchange one for another. In case of the zionists, it has become unhinged and more importantly unopposed.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 5 2025 13:52 utc | 5

@Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 13:49 utc | 3
There is a certain irony to supporters of “Israel” intimidating people into silence over the Gaza Genocide.
Zionists did it before at the price of Jewish lives.
When Zionists were tricking hundreds of thousands onto the trains to Auschwitz
they were attacking, intimidating, those Jews that were speaking up about their
beliefs and suspicions of the trains.

Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 13:57 utc | 7

What happens in Palestine is Davos and the Bildeberg telling 99.9 percent of human beings “yes we screwed you and you can’t do anything about it because we have guns and the army and you don’t”.
Covid was already part of the cognitive war we are all experiencing. For the unlucky it is not only cognitive but physical.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 5 2025 14:10 utc | 9

Also the victim-culture that has been fed over so many decades, that jews feel as victims while they holocaust an entire people.
@Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 5 2025 13:52 utc | 5
I think that is an important piece to the puzzle I proposed @1, my top post.
They are stuck in a victim-culture,
never healing the past.
Here is an article that addresses that:
https://poosh.com/what-is-woundology/

Blame
You feel a desire to blame others for how your life has turned out, keeping you negatively attached to the people and pain of your past.
Victimhood
A need to be seen as the victim of the situation (for example in a divorce or separation) and gaining power and attention through identifying with this role.
Betrayal
Not wanting to heal from your hurt (for example, when a loved one has passed away), because it feels like you will forget or betray them by moving forward with your life.
Identity
You have become defined by what happened to you and feel the need to continue to tell people about your story. Not for therapeutic purposes but because you don’t know who you are without it.
Awareness
You have the therapeutic language about your past, but none of this has landed below the neck, and awareness is not healing. As the saying goes, “We have to feel it to heal it,” and true healing involves the body, not just the mind.

Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 14:22 utc | 11

a different message that the subconscious was hearing?
Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 13:29 utc | 1
The hidden message is simple: “see, we’ve learned, we will never let it happen again. never!”
And that’s what all those manipulated minds are thinking: “look, there’s no genocide, because we’ve learned. we wouldn’t let it happen again. never!”
So, it’s basically the foundation for: “We are the good guys”

Posted by: Zet | Jan 5 2025 14:30 utc | 13

On “Generational News”, after the recent arrest of the Kamal Adwan Hospital medical director, several prominent activists talked about the situation in a webinar on December 29th, 2024. One of the guests was Norman Finkelstein…”
Finkelstein names all the “crooks, careerist, opportunists and Jewish supremacists”, including those in the ICJ and the ICI, the UN, etc., naming these perpetrators of “the outright corruption .. by those being bribed or blackmailed by Israel…these people need to be called out” by name.
I think what Norman Finkelstein said recently must remain a central focus for those opposing Israhell genocide of the Palestinians.
Finkelstein says it is “not enough to get just use broad terms like the (so-far failure of) the international political order and the international legal system (to stop the genocide)”. There are individuals who are personally, criminally and morally guilty of facilitating the genocide….These people need to be called out; they need to be held accountable….It was not just the inaction of the international political and legal community — it was the outright corruption in the legal and criminal sense.”
Finkelstein names some examples and explains who they are and why they need to undergo accountability. The ones he names fall into 2 groups as I interpret it:
GROUP1– “Run of the mill crooks and careerist opportunists:” (Finkelstein)
#1. Joan Donoghue, former president of the ICJ, who when she said on a BBC TV program of April 2024, that the ICJ had not found that Israel was plausibly committing genocide, that was a flat-out lie;
#2. ICJ Judge Julia Sebutinde (Uganda) voted against all emergency measures requested by South Africa against Israel over its war on Gaza, the only judge to do so, when the ICJ ordered Israel to prevent death, destruction and any acts of genocide in its military offensive in Gaza, but stopped short of ordering a ceasefire.
South Africa alleged that Israel’s campaign in Gaza amounted to genocide in the case and had asked the court to order Israel to halt the operation.
#3. Pramila Patten Under-Secretary-General of United Nations, appointed as Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict on 12 April 2017. She ran with the Oct. 7 fake rape- of- Israeli -women- by- Palestinian- men -story. “Of the alleged rape that occurred on Nov. 7, there is as of now — there is ZERO material evidence — no forensic, no digital, no medical evidence!” (Finkelstein)
Of Patten, like #4 Julie Sabui to come next installment, Finkelstein says, “they’re just crooks”… while “some others must have been bribed or blackmailed by Israel.”
The remainder of my post was wiped out by whatever program is operating here — this happens over and again & can’t figure why — I tap at end of line inside box thinking to place the cursor and the entire post evaporates. It happens at the final part of long posts.
It was the last part of list of people Finkelstein names and explains they need to be called out for facilitating genocide. No wherewithal to rewrite this at this hour. I will just list the remaining names:
GROUP1: #4 Julie Sabui, current VP of ICJ; #5 Fatou Bensouda, former chief prosecutor of ICC.
Of those in group I, Finkelstein says, “they’re being bribed or blackmailed by Israel, or they’re just the most debased, depraved opportunists and careerists.”
GROUP II: Jewish supremacists who “hide behind their Jewishness in order to facilitate and abet the genocide ”
#’s 1,2, and 3: Bill Ackman, Robert Kraft, Barry Sternlicht, billionaire alumni of Harvard, Columbia $ Harvard, and Havard & Brown U’s respectively who “held hostage our premier universities and told them, ‘unless you crush the student protests against genocide, we are going to withhold 100s of millions of $$ in alumni donations.’
#4. An outstandingly venal Jewish supremacist Cheryl Sandberg, former COO of META, that “moral monster put out the lying film ‘Screams Before Lies’…I’ve already said ZERO evidence of Oct. 7 rapes by Palestinians…film shown at the Biden WH….Sandberg sees her personal calling and responsibility to defend Israel’s right to commit genocide and …that’s exactly what they (the Jewish Supremacists) believe.”
The evidence is collected, and Finkelstein has it.
Finkelstein has a new book coming out stemming from significance of difference (with Elijah Magnier posted earlier) of it’s a genocide, not a war.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 5 2025 14:43 utc | 15

Anyone wondering how the things happened that led to the Holocaust — what on earth possessed the Germans? — can search (because forum software seems to block that particular site) on duckduckgo for “miles w mathis hitler”.
Genealogy studies and other thorough research. Covers all the other big nazis too.

Posted by: Jack M | Jan 5 2025 14:59 utc | 17

Supporting ‘Israel’ means having learned the lesson, no matter what. As long as we do that we are morally good.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 5 2025 14:49 utc | 17
Exactly, all of this Israel-support, the “never again”-banners etc. are required to save oneself from realizing the disgusting cognitive dissonance they are all feeling deep inside… It cannot be what must not be.

Posted by: Zet | Jan 5 2025 15:12 utc | 19

@11 librul
Those five phenomena are valid and especially the last one is interesting as it increases the level of difficulty of any therapeutic approach. All this is psychology of individuals. It can to a certain extent be transferred to societies. In societies a feedback effect occurs if these phenomena remain untreated over a long period of time and each individual is being exposed to them all of the time from all sides. They become unquestionable in the most fundamental sense of the word. It simply is unconceivable to see the world differently now. There is no more awareness (your point 5) of any of this as it now has become ideology. Any attempt to make you aware will either not be comprehended at all or trigger a pawlowian response to protect you from the threat of nonconformism.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 5 2025 15:26 utc | 21

Though it is a logical fallacy, what Zet@13 says seems to be a very real psychological phenomenon. Here in Germany the ‘never again’ doctrine is an integral part of all public discourse. For years now, public buildings have ‘Never again is now!’-banners hanging outside. Of course this ‘never again’ is not aimed at the zionists, but at the AFD, a neoliberal populist party who claims to end the immigration of cheap labor. Zionism is unconditionally supported, because that is what ‘never again’ means in the doctrine of our power elite. Supporting ‘Israel’ means having learned the lesson, no matter what. As long as we do that we are morally good.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 5 2025 14:49 utc | 17
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Correct, but IMO not the whole story.
The Israel Lobby has its European and especially German division.
The “pro=semitism” power bloc and ideology is pretty much a mirror image, or inversion, of putative anti-semitism. They call a lot of the shots in Germany, although the dynamic is different from the USA one. I think it is likely that George Soros is a connector between top levels of the two lobbies (just got a Medal of Freedom from Biden—WTF?????). From safety in the USA, Soros has constantly and bigly meddled in Europe since he left the Continent as (I think) a teenager. The Hungarians threw out him and his (basically) Open Society propaganda operation masquerading as various nonprofits—probably another reason why the EU has it in for Orban.
This new ideology has been drummed into the minds of all Germans, postwar. In Germany all Jews must be viewed as victims, regardless of what they actually do or have done or think. (The corollary: NO GERMANS can ever be viewed as victims—of Nazism, the war, the postwar famine, the famine after WW1, the bombing of Dresden, the lethal postwar expulsion of ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe, no matter how long their families had been there, of or of anything else. They have to go on atoning and sacrificing forever.) Hence, Israelis who have built their lives in Israel on an ongoing and now accelerated genocide are ushered to the head of the line in applying for German passports.
The idea that this postwar “pro-semitism” is actually racism directed at Palestinians never seems to occurs to German “thought leaders.”
Which is really something, in light of the fact that logic, and legal logic, was the foundational discipline of the German Enlightenment and later national intellectual revival in the first half of the 19th C., as I am learning from a fascinating new biography (in English) of the Grimm Brothers and their circle and works.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 5 2025 16:52 utc | 23

The common factor between Zionists and Nazis is the idea of being the “chosen” people under whom all other races are inferior. This leads to a lack of accountability and no empathy with “the others”, for which there are no limits.
Note that part of the Holocaust “rationale” was that the atrocious conditions money-wise of the average German, were blamed on a “target” group” who had more than the “chosen”. So their belongings, wealth and themselves had to be extracted from the scene (and blamed). Palestinians of Gaza had about 98% literacy, and were doing incredibly well under the circumstances. They also inhabited a piece of real-estate that is very valuable. (Beach/offshore oil/gas). Same scenario, same reaction. (The “superior” think they have the “right” to anything owned by the non-people.)
So a “chosen” or “superior” race had to have as uniquely theirs everything others possess.”Holocausts” or “Genocides” follow jealousy, and a sense of “Entitlement”.
****
This may even happen to the “exceptionel” nation, who cannot stand NOT to have everything as their assets.
I should point out that the US (which will be under Trump and the Zionists) is in a financial situation where, ALL possessions of others will be claimed by them. However, this is for survival of the capitalist predator system. Increasing brutality is to be expected during the next few years. There have already been significant indications (Guantanamo, US prison system brutality and then death rate by police) that an “eliminationn of undesirables” hides under the surface.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 5 2025 17:35 utc | 25

Not a half bad article and reminder that people matter.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/five-years-assassinated-mideast-general-soleimanis-vision

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 5 2025 17:36 utc | 27

The Genociders‘ defense seems to be …..it’s not a genocide – just mass murder and ethnic cleansing.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 5 2025 17:59 utc | 29

🇾🇪 Yemen’s Palestine-2 Missile Strikes Power Station South of Haifa
Yemeni military spokesman Yahya Saree has announced a successful overnight strike using the Palestine-2 ballistic missile, targeting a power station south of Israel’s Haifa. The operation marks a significant escalation, with the strike aimed at critical infrastructure in response to ongoing regional tensions.
❗️When the oppressed find their aim, the myth of invincibility cracks with every missile.

https://t.me/European_dissident/64619

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 5 2025 18:48 utc | 31

After gaslighting the international community for years regarding implementation of UNSC1701, Israel predictably is refusing to abide by the agreement. This attitude will likely result in resumed fighting across southern Lebanon in a couple of weeks:
“Israel has violated the ceasefire – which is based on the implementation of UN Resolution 1701 – over 100 times since it took effect with deadly airstrikes, arrests of Lebanese citizens, troop advancements, and mass detonation campaigns in southern villages. Entire villages have been wiped out as a result of the demolition campaign…Security sources in Lebanon told The Cradle on 23 December that the Israeli army is unhappy with the LAF’s efforts to implement the ceasefire and is planning to maintain a presence in the south past the 60-day implementation period.”

Posted by: jayc | Jan 5 2025 19:53 utc | 33

The motivation of the zionists is religious, it has always been religious.
If you either do not understand this, or choose to ignore this, then it just becomes empty talk on all these forums where people discuss this topic, trying to find an answer for it. Because of the influence of godless culture many people have become a-religious and therefore have been deprived of finding the right answer to these questions.
Geopolitical goals in that region, or economic interests, all these are secondaries; the primary motivation is and has been religious.
I explained about this already in April 2024 when I posted my explanation here on the public forum of the Moon of Alabama website. It remained on this forum for one day only, because the information had such an impact on the enemy, who found his intention exposed by my publishing.
And after it was removed by the moderation due to external pressure –as I suppose– I posted my article on my own domain.
In my article you can learn why they are so obsessed with expanding the borders of their Erez Israel project. I explained –for those interested– what motivates this enemy, why they are so obsessed with dominating that part of the world, and consequently –according to their wishful thinking– to rule over this whole world.
It is a religious enterprise aimed against God. That’s why they are so obsessed with it; and not the prospect of acquiring a lucrative beach resort in Gaza, built on top of uncounted dead Palestinian corpses, managed by Jarred Kushner.
But when people do not believe in God, how can they perceive the machinations of the enemy of God? and that’s exactly what the enemy of God wanted to achieve through the dissemination of godless culture.
If you either do not want to acknowledge God, or if you can not understand God, or if you choose to outright deny God, then all your attempts of explanation related to this topic remain in vain.
But if you want a real answer to all these questions –for those interested– then be it known to you that by acknowledging Jesus Christ, you take away power over you from this anti-Christ.
This is a statement of fact, not just an opinion!
Sincerely,
George
prophet.am

Posted by: George | Jan 5 2025 20:55 utc | 35

The Genociders‘ defense seems to be …..it’s not a genocide – just mass murder and ethnic cleansing.
Posted by: Exile | Jan 5 2025 17:59 utc | 31
And lately they went as far as hitting west bank, lebanon and syria just to show it’s nothing particular about gaza…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 5 2025 21:34 utc | 37

Errata 34
Martin Luther d. 1546 was an open Anti-semite. What politicians in Germany say in the age of political lying is irrelevant. Hatred of Jews was already deeply rooted in German culture during the era in which the Gospels were translated into local languages and read for the first time by ordinary people on Europe.
What those translations revealed in the Gospels was totally different to the Stone Age Feudalism taught by the Roman Catholic Church. I suspect that the resentment against the stranglehold of the Catholic Church which controlled everything , was partially directed against the minority group, the Jews.
The rich are very clever at persuading the poor that all their problems, actually caused by the rich, are caused by the ” other ” groups.
The Nazis may have also blamed the ” other ” , Polish Jews because its easier to blame the ” other “, than to blame your own community.
I think we can see that the current genocide targeting women and children for murder and men for sexual humiliation shows us that Israel despairs of succeeding in Palestine, in simple breeding power.
Israel’s Westernised mentality cannot compete with Muslim birth rates. The worn out rituals of Talmudic Judaism cannot compete the resilience and energy that daily God- worship gives.
In both Holocausts, then and now, the spiritual energy from the Gospels and now the Qur’an have made the old Establishment and its followers lash out against the new faith.
In other words it was the spiritual energy of the Gospels that were hidden by Rome for 1500 years that caused the Germans to lash out against the Jewish scapegoat, and it is the spiritual energy of the Qur’an, witnessed by Europeans in the highly educated young Muslims living in their torpid , dysfunctional Western societies, that causes European leaders to egg on the Israeli genocide.
This genocide is done by US, UK and European weaponry, Western IT technology. This is the West expressing its absolute detestation of Muslim success.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2025 21:49 utc | 39

Belloc expressed it memorably: ” Whatever happens, we have got the Gatling gun, and you have not.”

Posted by: Lysias | Jan 5 2025 21:54 utc | 41

Gaza has not only totally discredited Israel, it has done the same to the United States.

Posted by: Lysias | Jan 5 2025 22:06 utc | 43

I think I misremembered the Belloc quote. It’s not “and you have not”. It’s ” and they have not.”

Posted by: Lysias | Jan 5 2025 22:42 utc | 45

“Now that we have all witnessed – are witnessing – a Genocide
supported and perpetrated by the very people that worship The Holocaust,
I ask, “what happened?””
What happened to the valid lessons of The Holocaust?”
Posted by: librul | Jan 5 2025 13:29 utc | 1
To begin with the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated (take a wild guess who promoted the exaggeration), perhaps by a factor of 6-10 times.
Secondly, the answer to your question of ,’what happened’?, is devilishly simple: when the father beats the sons, whom , in turn, beat their sons from learned behaviour; such that our Zionists are but aping their Nazi fathers.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 5 2025 23:16 utc | 47

It seems people are getting bored with the slaughter of the Palestinians. I don’t feel the same way. The pure sadism and cruelty of both the Israeli military and the Israeli people themselves has shocked the world as they look on in complete hopelessness as Israel’s barbaric military action continues to murder and maim innocent Palestinians every day, especially women and children.
So we all wait until something, anything, can stop it.
Posted by: Ray | Jan 5 2025 23:02 utc | 49
Nobody is “bored” with the slaughter of the Palestinians, only with the inability to stop it.
Ireland still tries, spain also holding the candle, yemen of course still fights, iran is taking a break to tend to its wounds, syria is no more… yes things don’t look good, but bored is not the word.
I guess everybody would like to see a flock of orange orbs going there and war of the world the IDF, but that seems beyond ET’s interest…
I seldom post on this thread because there is a certain sense of hopelessness, as I mentioned a couple of times, unless i see the port of haifa on fire there is little hope the israeli would care.

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 5 2025 23:25 utc | 49

From two previous posts
Dear ET, god, or whatever
If you happen to read this lowly blog , just shy of 32º50’N 35 E, heading east from there, will do nicely, can’t miss it.
Maybe they’ll learn and stop, otherwise ask for more coordinates
Thank you

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 5 2025 23:33 utc | 51

Posted by: canuck | Jan 5 2025 23:16 utc | 50

Zionists are but aping their Nazi fathers.

put a sock in it canuck.
Or explain to the Bar how it came about that “zionists” pre-dated by more than 40 years their “Nazi” father.”
________________
Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2025 21:49 utc | 42
Read more carefully, Giyane:
Errata wrote about (actually, quoted from a Jewish source)

the German ambassador to US Hans Luther

Posted by: Errata | Jan 5 2025 23:36 utc | 53

canuck wasn’t saying the Nazis created Zionism, dude. He was making another reference to the Holocaust and noting that the Zionists are carrying out their own slightly smaller version in Gaza.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 5 2025 23:40 utc | 57
Only because there are fewer gazans…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 5 2025 23:41 utc | 55

Newbie , i scrolled through all three current threads .
You are prolific, above and beyond normal capacity.
You are amazing! Can you reveal your secret to the quickness of your rhetoric and writing?
I want to learn from you , I want to be your protégé.

Posted by: Middle-man | Jan 6 2025 1:47 utc | 57

Happy Birthday Greta for 3rd January.
Dr. Yousef 𓂆🇵🇸
@yousef_ki1
Happy 22nd birthday to Greta Thunberg.
“To stand with Palestine is to be human”
https://x.com/yousef_ki1/status/1875050376887767236

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 2:30 utc | 59

Double Down News
@DoubleDownNews
SILENCED for Supporting Gaza: Artist Who Inspired Banksy EXPOSES Art World @peterkennardx
https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1875156722807173629

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 2:32 utc | 61

Globe Eye News
@GlobeEyeNews
Israeli forces have taken control of six major water sources in Syria, accounting for 30% of Syria’s and 40% of Jordan’s water supply.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1875630702554968280

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 2:34 utc | 63

asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل
@asadabukhalil
Antony Blinken: in a just world (which does not exist) his words in the New York Times interview could serve as a basis for indictment for war crimes under international law. He concedes that his administration sponsored the deprivation of food to Palestinians and that his administration kept arming the state that he admits was denying food to people. What is least mentioned about Blinken is that his first career choice was to intern at the New Republic when the magazine was more violent and extremist than other Zionist publications like Midstream or Commentary. He worked for a magazine that was publicly and explicitly racist and bigoted. It should be regularly mentioned that those people like Blinken are Zionist because they are fundamentally racist and bigoted. Zionism provides a haven for anti-Arab/anti-Muslim racists and bigots.
https://x.com/asadabukhalil/status/1875976059059130832

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 2:35 utc | 65

The new normal.
I read the news today, oh-boy [beatles?]
Are you numb yet? 50 killed here, 70 there. Day by day; on-and-on, every day. Are you numb yet?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 6 2025 3:25 utc | 67

“Martin Luther d. 1546 was an open Anti-semite.”
_____________________________
Initially, M.L. was a friend to the jews. He befriended a Rabbi who taught him Hebrew,and was very sympathetic to them. Of course,he hated Catholics,so he faulted the Catholic Church for Jews not converting to Christianity. In his pride, Luther assumed he could convert them by being nice, and preaching to them. Lo and behold, they remained obstinate in their rejection of their King who died for our salvation! Consequently, he was filled with rage, and thereafter, he was more hateful to the jews than one can imagine. How dare they reject his teaching. (LOL) M.L. was a sanctimonious hypocrite, a drunkard, and a ball of pride. That’s the truth.

Posted by: hispanidad | Jan 6 2025 3:49 utc | 69

Newbie | Jan 5 2025 23:41 utc | 58
*** canuck wasn’t saying the Nazis created Zionism, dude. He was making another reference to the Holocaust and noting that the Zionists are carrying out their own slightly smaller version in Gaza.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 5 2025 23:40 utc | 57
Only because there are fewer gazans…***
Don’t omit aggregate numbers of dead in the Ukraine war (brought about by Kolomoisky and Zionist/Jewish politicians home and abroad) … or in deference to Zelensky and the Chabad cultists, should we now be calling that soon to be former country the impending “New Israel/Khazaria”.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 6 2025 4:26 utc | 71

@1
At risk of repeating what others have said, my answer to your question is the entire industry of holo memorialization and education existed to give the state in question the cover to eventually “solve” its palestinian problem no questions asked.
They got a dotard zionist in the white house who essentially did not exist for probably 65% of his presidency, and so it was easy for his zionist chief of staff and sec state to feed israel every dollar and category of weapon it needed to continue its campaign of extermination.
If not for the noble intervention of Hezb and Ansar it would probably be complete in Gaza, by now.

Posted by: Cresty | Jan 6 2025 5:16 utc | 73

From Xinhuanet

JERUSALEM, Jan. 5 (Xinhua) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said on Sunday that Hamas has not provided a name list of Israeli hostages to be released.
“Hamas has not transferred a name list of (Israeli) hostages so far,” Netanyahu’s office said in a statement, denying previous media reports, which, citing a Hamas official, said the group agreed to release 34 hostages.
Meanwhile, Israel’s state-owned Kan TV reported on Sunday that Mossad chief David Barnea will travel tomorrow to Qatar to take part in the ongoing Gaza ceasefire talks.
On Thursday, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad movement said Palestinian factions need a week to prepare and deliver a list of Israeli hostages for exchange during the first phase of a possible ceasefire deal.

Will a ceasefire stop the genocide? Just in Gaza?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 6 2025 5:26 utc | 75

psychoistorian 78
Qatar / Muslim Brotherhood is a direct beneficiary and sponsor of this genocide, as manifested by the shoehorning into Damascus of HTS.
Dark deals have been done, but the charade of decency still has to run its course for public consumption.
I am so disgusted at the beautiful name of Islam being shat on by gangster politics.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 6 2025 5:43 utc | 77

@ persiflo | Jan 6 2025 5:55 utc | 81….thx
”
The way that can be named is not the real way.
”
Everything named is the result of human hubris and barbaric patriarchy.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 6 2025 6:00 utc | 79

see the video at the second link
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1875903444738797958
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
Misusing the protected status of medical vehicles and personnel is a flagrant violation of the Geneva Conventions and may constitute a crime of perfidy. By systemically disregarding IHL, Israel has rendered the legal frameworks meant to protect civilians, completely meaningless.
@ICRC
@ICRC_ilot
https://x.com/PeruginiNic/status/1875806494614311403
Nicola Perugini @PeruginiNic
The Israeli army hiding in an ambulance to carry out an operation in Balata refugee camp, Nablus. The same army that destroyed Gaza’s hospitals based on the fabricated accusation that they are a network of military command centres.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 6 2025 6:41 utc | 81

see the video at the second link.
the israelis are the most psychopathic people/society in the world at the present moment
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1875949813189255425
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
An IDF soldier, Yuval Vagdani, came to Brazil in December to vacation. A federal court ordered him criminally investigated after this group showed he destroyed entire blocks of residential buildings in Gaza and urged more.
Court cite Brazil’s signing of Rome Statute and ICC.
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1875950334432157963
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
In response, Israel threatened Brazil (again) and there are now reports that the Israeli Foreign Ministry helped Vagdani to flee the country in the middle of the night this morning. Lots of people investigating how that could have happened. The soldier:
https://x.com/HindRFoundation/status/1875677664205246471
The Hind Rajab Foundation @HindRFoundation
🚨🚨 Urgent Alert❗️ The #HindRajabFoundation has verified information that Israel is imminently attempting to smuggle suspected Israeli war criminal Yuval Vagdani out of Brazil, because of a Brazilian court order for police to take investigative measures against him. There are also indications that evidence is being destroyed. This is not only a scandal but an affront to Brazil’s sovereignty and rule of law. Israel has employed similar tactics before.
We call on Brazilian authorities to fulfill their responsibilities, protect their judicial process, and ensure justice prevails.
For more info on the case see ⬇️
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/breaking-brazilian-court-orders-police-to-act-on-israeli-war-crimes-suspect-following-hrf-complaint
https://x.com/anyaparampil/status/1875952376470987065
Anya Parampil @anyaparampil
This should happen to Israeli soldiers everywhere they go to drop molly and “destress” after their time in the military

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 6 2025 6:58 utc | 83

see the video at the first link.
love the brave Houthis/Yemenis:
“Whoever wants to get to sleep comfortably has to leave for either Cypress or their own country,” he said
https://x.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1875966152146608264
PALESTINE ONLINE 🇵🇸 @OnlinePalEng
Scenes from the massive rally that healthcare workers staged outside the US embassy in London to demand #FreeDrHussamAbuSafiya.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/14202
Middle East Spectator
— 🇾🇪/🇮🇱 NEW: Yemen’s Ansarullah announce that they targeted the ‘Orot Rabin’ power plant south of Haifa with a ‘Palestine-2’ hypersonic ballistic missile.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/01/06/740393/Yemen-warning-Israel
Yemen warns Israelis: Go back to your country of origin; we won’t leave Gaza alone
A high-ranking member of Yemen’s popular resistance Ansarullah movement advises the illegal settlers in the occupied Palestinian territories to leave those areas for where they came from as Yemen will not cease its retaliatory anti-Israeli operations.
Hizam al-Assad, member of Ansarullah’s Political Bureau, made the remarks in a post on X on Monday.
“Whoever wants to get to sleep comfortably has to leave for either Cypress or their own country,” he said……
….“Our military operations will keep targeting the heart of the occupied territories,” he had stated.
“These surprises will last until the regime ceases its aggression and siege against Gaza,”…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 6 2025 8:39 utc | 85

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 6 2025 9:05 utc | 90
Agreed. There are probably hundreds of thousands still budired under the rubble of bombed buildings.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 9:48 utc | 87

Ship Traffic live
Haifa = busy
Ashdod = busy
Askelon = dead
Elias = dead
Suez Approaches = busy
https://www.vesselfinder.com

Posted by: Exile | Jan 6 2025 9:57 utc | 89

Double Down News
@DoubleDownNews
LOWKEY – Two Kites (Official Music Video) @Lowkey0nline
https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1872674886524850459

Posted by: Menz | Jan 6 2025 10:48 utc | 91

https://www.vesselfinder.com
Posted by: Exile | Jan 6 2025 9:57 utc | 93
Are these ships violating the Houthi ban? What’s going on here?

Posted by: Sticker | Jan 6 2025 11:33 utc | 93

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 6 2025 5:24 utc | 77
I will try to be better about that, I’m a ponderer. I read your previous comments and thought they were insightful. I don’t like posting when I don’t have an equally brilliant comment to make and feel my half baked ideas clutter the thread. I spent a lot of time thinking about Muslim infiltration in your local clergy.
The question of Erdogan and the Turkish Deep state agency is always something I consider and am sure it is applicable to Egypt, Jordan and other countries as well. In fact my musings about the CUP Genociders being a Zionist rather a than Turkish group is a question of agency. I look at agency in the Middle East as a spectrum, wholly subordinate (Jordan) vs independent Iran under Raisi. I thought Erdogan falls in the middle, but the latest move in Syria would only be justified if there were actual Sunni innocents in Assad’s prisons. Otherwise, it supports the theory that the overthrow of the Ottoman Empire, Caliph, and Armenian Genocide was a Zionist coup.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Jan 6 2025 13:58 utc | 95

Thanks, barflies, all, for your responses to my question(s) posted in comment #1 ( @1 )
Lots of food for thought. Thx!
I was going to try and go next level with the question @1, but am not trained in psychology
so I don’t have enough to offer except perhaps more questions.
When I first read the article “Israel’s Biblical Psychopathy” I thought it was harsh.
Then I read the words, thoughts and actions of Bezalel Smotrich and his like-minded Religious Zionists.
(And, of course, witnessed the Genocide unfolding.)
If you haven’t read it:
https://www.unz.com/article/israels-biblical-psychopathy/

The Biblical Virus
Israel’s collective psychopathy is not genetic, it is cultural, but it was formed is very ancient times, and so it is embedded in the ancestral subconscious (whatever that is): it ultimately comes from the jealous god invented by the Levites to control the starving tribes they set out to conquer Palestine some three thousand years ago. By birth, Israel is the nation of the psychopathic god.

My “next level question” is this, given that there is a collective unconscious [Jung], has not the subconscious message of the Holocaust –Victimhood —
been reanimating and feeding an ancient Jewish collective unconscious?
That collective unconscious has manifested in the likes of Bezalel Smotrich.

Posted by: librul | Jan 6 2025 14:56 utc | 97

@Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 6 2025 15:46 utc | 103
Is this now protected from removal in New Israel York?

Protect Israeli citizens from Treachery and Betrayal,
Arrest Netanyahu
Image: Apache Helicopters blasting Israeli citiens on Oct 7th

Posted by: librul | Jan 6 2025 16:03 utc | 99