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January 9, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-004
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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My latest update on the global car market, part of one of three; Global Overview plus Asia in depth. Then will be North America, then Europe. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 9 2025 16:06 utc | 1 A good piece on the techno-oligarch fever dream coming into reality, under both Democrats and Republicans. And Elon’s “madness with power” Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 9 2025 16:29 utc | 2 Ukraine, wants to take Hungary’s place in the EU – after both Hungary and Slovakia blasted Zelensky – for cutting-off Russian gas. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:43 utc | 3 U.S ally Kenya wants to join BRICS – Kenya wants to grow its export economy – especially as its $81 billion dollars in debt. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:46 utc | 4 Re: Global Car Market Posted by: Exile | Jan 9 2025 16:47 utc | 5 The Zionist war criminal – will not attend Trump’s swearing in ceremony. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:48 utc | 6 I’m not a big fan of Musk – but I say go on, get Starmer and his party out of office – he’s helping to prop up a Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine and aiding and abetting in a genocide in Gaza. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:53 utc | 7 Lets not forget – that the Lebanese army never fired one shot in earnest – at the invading Israeli IOF when it attacked Southern Lebanon last year. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:57 utc | 8 The move toward outright fascism by the oligarchs, and the US oligarch prioritization of their own interests over those of their vassals, is becoming more evident every day. Posted by: lmaa@linuxmail.org | Jan 9 2025 17:00 utc | 9 Has anyone on MoA been giving any attention to the scandal of the so called ‘Grooming Gangs’ in the UK. This long running scandal, concerning the grooming and sexual abuse of vulnerable girls, usually from troubled home environments, by adult males from (I’ll avoid being provocative here,) certain ethnic and cultuaral backgrounds, first broke into public awareness around 2012 when whistleblowers revealed that police forces, social care agencies and both local and national government agencies had for two decades turned a blind eye to the activities of these organised gangs because they werre advised against any action which ‘might increae inter – racial tensions.’ Posted by: Arthur Foxake | Jan 9 2025 17:05 utc | 10 It seems that overthrowing Bashar Al Assad is resonating throughout the Middle East. there are now calls for the egyptian president Al Sissi to step down from office (which he won’t do of course). Posted by: WMG | Jan 9 2025 17:15 utc | 11 @10 Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2025 17:27 utc | 12 I’m bringing this one from the previous thread Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2025 17:29 utc | 13 Forgot to correct the link Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2025 17:32 utc | 14 @ Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2025 17:27 utc | 12 Posted by: fnord | Jan 9 2025 17:41 utc | 15 @10 I just attempted to read that first link you posted, the Jenny Greenteeth blog, but gave up when it described Yaxley-Lennon as the UK’s most persecuted dissident! Obviously you’ve never heard of what the British state did to Julian Assange or is doing to Craig Murray, Richard Medhurst & others. SYL AKA TR is in jail for contempt of court – he deliberately disrupted a child abuse trial by harassing witnesses etc. His actions there potentially stopped an alleged abuser being successfully prosecuted. As for his relationship with the UK elites, he has had consistent press coverage when he is really just a thug, massive financial grants from right-wing think tanks, is consistently pro-Israel/anti-Palestine in line w/ UK govt policy. IMO probably a state asset, but by public record he is criminally violent (attacked an off-duty cop who tried to stop him beating his girlfriend in public), a fraudster (convicted of mortgage fraud, accused by ex-colleagues of pocketing money donated to his EDL, an illegal immigrant (went to the US on a false passport)…and most damningly, a police informer (from his football hooligan days). You’ve been had… Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2025 17:48 utc | 16 Re: grooming gangs ? Posted by: Exile | Jan 9 2025 17:50 utc | 17
Taken from Adam Tooze https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/the-surge-in-big-tech-capex-the-shipbuilding?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=192845&post_id=154428324&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=2rylou&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 9 2025 17:55 utc | 18 @Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 16:53 utc | 7 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 9 2025 18:01 utc | 19 Has anyone read the recent pronouncements of Greenland’s home rule leader, he’s clearly a quisling who can hardly wait to give Greenland away to the US: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/09/greenland-prime-minister-mute-egede-calm-unity-trump-comments-denmark Posted by: Ludovic | Jan 9 2025 18:04 utc | 20 The people of Greenland are going to give themselves up to the tender mercies of the USA? If the Inuit are even included in the US Indian Health services, it will be a downgrade from what the have now (totally free at point-of-service and elder care). Not to mention, now a gub’ment totally hostile to upholding treaties and shorting Native rights and monies will be in charge. Only lunatics would vote for that (and the US has enuff lunatics as it is). Posted by: azeclecticdog | Jan 9 2025 18:07 utc | 21 So, five presidents and the incumbent were in attendance at Jimmy Carters funeral today – looking at the pictures, it could and should be the front row bench in Hague, and all five should be standing in it – and, Carter should’ve been in the dock as well whilst he was alive, instead there’s was much fawning over the ex-POTUS – quick pass the sick bucket. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 18:48 utc | 22 Courtesy P N I
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THAts all folks ! Posted by: denk | Jan 9 2025 18:49 utc | 23 Good for them – (ECOWAS) is a puppet organisation that answers to the West. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 18:54 utc | 24 Nigeria – a country rich in oil, and its most of its people are dirt poor – this a common story as Western Imperialism, robs a country blind of its assets and a few of its utterly corrupt citizens/politicians, live the good life because they have sold the country out. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 19:02 utc | 25 Western backed terrorism – in Africa has caused many deaths and much destruction – the Western imperialist countries – must be forced out of Africa, and shunned at every turn. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 19:08 utc | 26 This past few weeks seemed very quiet. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 9 2025 19:11 utc | 27 Carter should’ve been in the dock as well whilst he was alive Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2025 19:20 utc | 28 The French are in the process of being kicked-out all over the Sahel, with Chad being one of the latest to tell Macron, Au Revoir – the French have already been booted out of Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger – Macron will be pulling his hair out, wonder what to do with all those French troops, who are standing around now doing nothing – worst of all – they are not making any money for the French government. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 19:20 utc | 29 @ Republicofscotland Posted by: malenkov | Jan 9 2025 19:24 utc | 30 Trump, Monroe Doctrine upgrade Posted by: migueljose | Jan 9 2025 19:45 utc | 31 Not content with backing the genocide in Gaza – Biden and Blinken, have come out and said the (RSF) are committing genocide in the Sudan – the (RSF) are funded by the (UAE) with cash and weapons, and the US sells copious amounts of weapons to the (UAE) – who then pass them on to the (RSF). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2025 19:59 utc | 32 @ migueljose | Jan 9 2025 19:45 utc | 31 Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 9 2025 20:00 utc | 33 The bottom line? Most abusers of children in the predominantly White UK are, you guessed it…White. Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 20:06 utc | 34 Despite the grim bestseller Storms of my Grandchildren having been published long enough ago for another generation of Hansens to grow up, we’ll always hear residual scientific reticence from respectable climate commentators. This embarrassingly obvious question has spawned a novel (imho useless) mixture of solid trendlines and statistical streamlines called attribution studies to produce results such as “This last storm was 57% more [likely, violent, destructive, etc.] because of global warming.” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 9 2025 20:08 utc | 35 I’m not a big fan of Musk – but I say go on, get Starmer and his party out of office – he’s helping to prop up a Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine and aiding and abetting in a genocide in Gaza. Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 20:14 utc | 36 @Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 9 2025 20:08 utc | 35 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 9 2025 20:19 utc | 37 Why would elon musk the richist man in the world be interested in this man tommy robinson ? Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 20:23 utc | 38 The French are in the process of being kicked-out all over the Sahel, with Chad being one of the latest to tell Macron, Au Revoir – the French have already been booted out of Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger – Macron will be pulling his hair out, wonder what to do with all those French troops, who are standing around now doing nothing – worst of all – they are not making any money for the French government. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2025 20:24 utc | 39 @ 10, did you mean MI5, Parliament and the House of Lords. You know the Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, R Harris and who knows which judges, Police chiefs and other low lives that Musk has conveniently missed? Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2025 20:30 utc | 40 @migueljose | Jan 9 2025 19:45 utc: As waynorinnorway said, “superb”. Thanks! Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 9 2025 20:33 utc | 41 Posted by: migueljose | Jan 9 2025 19:45 utc | 31 Very interesting comments. Perhaps it’s irrelevant if local leaders try to marginalize Rubio, after all it’s not clear Trump won’t do that for them. It is typical for the President to depend on such figures as the National Security Advisor (Mike Waltz,) Director of National Intelligence (Tulsi Gabbard,) Ambassador to the UN (Elise Stefanik,) Ambassador to the OAS (not yet nominated,) the Southern Command head (currently Alvin Holsey,) who generally have more access to the President plus much less accountability to the Congress, to formulate policies…not to mention the role of US financial bureaucrats in IMF, World Bank, WTO, Secretary of the Treasury (Scott Bessent,) in the economic warfare aspects. It seems to me Rubio is chiefly tasked with anti-Communist PR against Cuba and Venezuela. Otherwise it is not clear that Trump has any use for so-called Little Marco Rubio’s opinions. Marginalized Rubio means more hands on from true-blue Trumpers, if not Trump himself, no? Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 9 2025 20:36 utc | 42 @ Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 20:06 utc | 34 Posted by: fnord | Jan 9 2025 20:39 utc | 43 Next perhaps “how silly of people to build condos next to the water in Florida!” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 9 2025 20:42 utc | 44 To follow my above… Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 20:44 utc | 45 Those are the guys antifa stood up against with no help from the police. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 20:56 utc | 46 A galleon trade route effectively worked a central-American canal equivalent for 250 years. The route ran from Manila to Acapulco, overland to Veracruz, and then on to Spain. Since it was not controlled by Anglo interests, the British navy conducted hit and run attacks on the galleons at sea to initially disrupt, before eventually sacking Manila. Of course, the ensuing 250 years of human progress ensures such pettiness will no longer be a factor in human affairs. Posted by: jayc | Jan 9 2025 21:10 utc | 47 Azerbaijan Alyev is calling Armenia fascist calling out France for some reason…seems either he is emboldened by Turkeys expansive actions into Syria maybe in cahoots for a greater Ottoman empire ..seems to be progressive intentions over the last few years… Posted by: Jo | Jan 9 2025 21:15 utc | 48 Keeps repeatedly feeling like yesterday all over again. Posted by: librul | Jan 9 2025 21:21 utc | 49 @ Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2025 17:27 utc | 12 Posted by: Jane | Jan 9 2025 21:25 utc | 50 70 palistinians died in Gaza this last 24 hours. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 21:25 utc | 51 This just plain looks bad. As LA burned for a couple of days, mayor Karen Bass was overseas, attending the inauguration of the president of Ghana.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/california-playbook/2025/01/09/where-in-the-world-was-karen-bass-00197243 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 9 2025 21:29 utc | 52 Posted by: Jane | Jan 9 2025 21:25 utc | 50 Yes, the only time a rigged investigation is so-called lawfare is when it is aimed at the Divine Trump! Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 9 2025 21:32 utc | 53 Jane starmers establishment you really dont get it. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 21:32 utc | 54 Russell and Keaton are guesting for Jimmy Dore. Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 9 2025 21:34 utc | 55 Newbie | Jan 9 2025 17:29 utc | 13– Russia should use the disproportionate impact of global warming to create new weapons. For instance weapons that can cause and sustain large wildfires. Given its extent and climate it has a competitive advantage over USA and South European countries and also against a few other European countries. Posted by: Jason | Jan 9 2025 21:43 utc | 57 Have a look at this…. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 21:49 utc | 58 In his chat today with Nima, Dr. Hudson gave an update of the tools the Outlaw US Empire uses in pursuit of Super Imperialism that Trump has floated over the last few days. Many have said Trump’s talking through his hat and can’t do what he threatens, but Hudson tells us exactly how he can employ the tried-and-true tools of Empire to get his way without needing to resort to war. In the closing minutes of their chat, Hudson sends a message to the citizens and governments of those Trump is now targeting and those who will follow. And he’s again critical of BRICS for not being specific enough about their aims and how BRICS members can defend themselves at this new upsurge in Imperialism that many thought would be impossible given the defeat by Russia in Ukraine. And that makes three critically important programs hosted by Nima over the past 24 hours–Escobar, Krainer, and Hudson. All together about three hours of viewing. ‘Grooming Gangs’ in the UK…sexual abuse of vulnerable girls.. by adult males from (I’ll avoid being provocative here,) certain ethnic and cultuaral backgrounds, Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 22:08 utc | 60 So we want an inqiury do we ? Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 22:11 utc | 61 I posted this on another thread, but it was near the end of it’s timeline. For US residents consideration: Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 22:12 utc | 62 They have published a piece on the rape scandal currently engulfing England. Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 22:14 utc | 63 Who is next in the Middle East to undergo “regime change” ? Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 22:14 utc | 64 “So we want an inqiury do we ? Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 22:25 utc | 65 It seems there are major discussions going on in Turkey between multiple political parties of all tendencies concerning compromise solutions to the Kurdish question involving new constitutional changes that would permit Erdogan to rule for life in exchange for certain concessions within Turkey and include Syrian territory as well. This according to a UC Berkeley professor of Middle Eastern affairs who cautions all is hypothetical and rumor at this point. This is audio only on KPFA, an independent progressive radio station in the Pacifica family of radio stations. I heard only part of this while driving, but what I heard is interesting speculation about politics from that unsettled part of the globe. Here is the internet link to the audio program, about 30 minutes in lenghth: Posted by: mjh | Jan 9 2025 22:42 utc | 66 I think it’s more nefarious than ignorance. They need to “flood the zone with shit” in order to distract from the facts, and to put anti-racists on the defensive. Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 22:43 utc | 67 Red Star @ 65 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 22:46 utc | 68 Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 22:14 utc | 63
See the hole?
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 9 2025 22:50 utc | 69 Can someone please archive that link of Red Star’s please. And share share share. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 22:52 utc | 70 If Starmer and his former ministry have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear from a new investigation [(:-)]. Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 22:57 utc | 71 Jopalotive @ 71 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:04 utc | 72 Posted by: Red Star | Jan 9 2025 22:25 utc | 65 Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 23:11 utc | 73 All abusers should be in prison. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:18 utc | 74 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:04 utc | 72 Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 23:21 utc | 75 The west funded the far right banderites in ukraine to fight Russia and die in the prosses. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:25 utc | 76 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:18 utc | 74 Posted by: jopalolive | Jan 9 2025 23:25 utc | 77 And the “lefties” living in a cave still shout “But white people…! White people!” as if that was ever an actual argument or in any way meaningful 😛 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 9 2025 23:25 utc | 78 @77 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 9 2025 23:28 utc | 79 The only “scandal currently engulfing England” is the raking over of old coals with no consideration for the original victims, who are as much pawns of racist politicians looking to make capital as they ever were of any grooming gangs. Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2025 0:12 utc | 81 As a recovering journalist and fairly frequent writer; I can spot a yearling tomcat pouncing on, semi-crippling and then “toying” with his very first #1 Rodent. Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 10 2025 0:45 utc | 83 This will be the final essay from this issue of International Affairs I’ll translate. I hope readers enjoyed the first two. “The Crimean Spring as an Impetus for the Formation of a New Polycentric World Order,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/the-crimean-spring-as-an-impetus @ Roger Boyd | Jan 10 2025 0:36 utc | 85 Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2025 1:02 utc | 85 @ karlof1 | Jan 10 2025 1:01 utc | 89 Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2025 1:04 utc | 86 Newbie | Jan 9 2025 17:29 utc | 13– Posted by: Newbie | Jan 10 2025 1:19 utc | 87 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 10 2025 1:24 utc | 94 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 10 2025 1:28 utc | 88 Threatening to invade Panama, to conquer Canada and Greenland; doesn’t Trump look even more demented than Biden? Posted by: lester | Jan 10 2025 1:29 utc | 89 @Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2025 1:02 utc | 90 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 10 2025 1:45 utc | 90 Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2025 17:27 utc | 12 Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2025 2:19 utc | 91 Well, this thread has totally deteriorated into a shit-flinging match. Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2025 2:22 utc | 92 In a move apparently delayed to allow X to close down its fact-checking division, Canada’s foreign minister has tweeted (x’ed) official recognition of Venezuela’s opposition as, in fact, its legitimate ruling party. This is the second consecutive declaration of such by Canada, but the first to be articulated following a process of voting. While the previous attempt to declare legitimacy ended in the Juan Guadio farce, supporters of the defeated opposition believe this attempt will be different as it coincides with heightened troll activity and identity theft across internet platforms still conversant with facts which, they believe, will provide necessary distractions to dissemination of such. Posted by: jayc | Jan 10 2025 3:01 utc | 93 AIPAC has become a catch all term for “the Jews” at this point. They are a big lobby, but they don’t contribute even half of the contributions to the average US politician and certainly it’s not the kind of money that would convince the US government to literally flout international law for Israel. Posted by: Spiderwig | Jan 10 2025 3:31 utc | 94 Looks as if the site is being partially discombobulated by a more advanced trolling program which has been established by one or more intel agencies to destroy the site. There is an insidious level of articulation which was not typical of the more traditional trollers. Currently, those trawlers of destruction are employing deep-sea style purse nets in order to scoop all life clear on down to the bottom of the bay. Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 10 2025 4:34 utc | 95 Superb post on Twitter from Russians with Attitude. Basically, the US is consolidating its power and level of extraction within its bloc as it loses power and influence outside its bloc. “Its just business not personal”.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 10 2025 5:29 utc | 96 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 10 2025 5:29 utc | 112 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 10 2025 5:52 utc | 97 @Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 10 2025 5:52 utc | 113 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 10 2025 7:11 utc | 98 Kudos b Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 10 2025 7:49 utc | 99 What now, President Tinubu? Posted by: FemiAkomolaafe | Jan 10 2025 8:13 utc | 100 |
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