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December 28, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-312
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@ ossi, §686:
The “new tones” from Japan are probably the first pennies dropping in Japanese minds that they do not want to be used as Ukraine 2.0 against China.
Nor do they want to pay through the nose, like the EU, for American LNG shipped across an ocean when Russia supplies them with cheap, reliable gas and oil from Saxalin, next door.
Japan and Russia have not formally ended WW2 with a Peace Treaty. America may try to obstruct this. One of the reasons Shinzō Abe was assassinated may have been his willingness to sign such a treaty. In such a treaty, Abe would have traded heavy high-tech investment in the Russian Far East to help the Russians develop it – with such as a proposed bullet train around the Sea of Okhotsk (Yamsk-Magadan-Okhotsk-Ayan-Chumikan-Tugur-Tyr-Lazarev-Pogibi-Nogliki), nuclear power stations at Ayan and Yamsk, ice-braker shipbuilding at Ayan and Magadan, etc., etc., etc. in exchange for the three southernmost Kurils, viz. Kunashir, Iturup and Urup.
And, most irritating to America of all, a Russo-Japanese treaty of trade and friendship. America would oppose this at all costs, even murdering a PM. China might not be too happy either . . .
Posted by: John Marks | Dec 28 2024 16:30 utc | 1
Fico threatens to cut off electricity supplies to Ukraine
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has threatened to cut off energy supplies to Ukraine if Kyiv stops transporting russian gas to Central Europe.
Fico wrote about this on his Facebook and Bloomberg reported this on Friday, December 27.
The Slovak Prime Minister noted that his country will assess the situation and possible reciprocal measures against Ukraine. According to him, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will cause billions of euros in losses to the European Union, including the Slovak Republic, by stopping the transit of russian gas, and will reduce the EU’s competitiveness.
“If necessary, we will cut off the supply of electricity, which Ukraine desperately needs during network outages. Stopping the transit of Russian natural gas through Ukraine is not just an empty political gesture. This is an extremely expensive step for which we, in the European Union, will pay,” Fico said.
The Slovak Prime Minister also stressed that the EU’s additional spending on electricity will amount to EUR 120 billion (USD 125 billion) over the next two years as a result of the suspension of russian gas transit. In addition, Fico said that Slovakia is ready to accept peace talks on the war in Ukraine.
https://ukranews.com/en/news/1055513-fico-threatens-to-cut-off-electricity-supplies-to-ukraine
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:31 utc | 2
It‘s getting prickly:
Zelensky accused Fico of opening a second front against Ukraine at Putin’s suggestion
It seems that Russian President Vladimir Putin has instructed Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico to open a second energy front against Ukraine. This was stated by the head of the Kiev regime, Vladimir Zelensky.
This is how the “overdue” Ukrainian president reacted to Fico’s warning that Slovakia would cut off Ukraine’s electricity supply if Kiev refused to extend the transit of Russian gas to the EU.
“Only this can mean threats by the Fico to cut off emergency power supply to Ukraine in winter in the face of Russian strikes on our power grids and distribution networks… Now Fico is also involving Slovakia in Russia’s attempts to harm Ukrainians,” Zelensky writes in his telegram channel.
He was once again rude to the Slovak prime minister, threatening a break between the current Slovak government and the European community. According to Zelensky, since Slovakia is part of the single European energy market, it “must comply with pan-European rules.”
“Any arbitrary decisions in Bratislava or orders from Moscow for Fico regarding electricity will not lead to a halt in electricity imports to Ukraine, but they can definitely lead to a gap between the current Slovak government and the European community,” Zelensky summed up.
As EADaily reported, the future of Russian gas transit through Ukraine to Europe is at a turning point. If the last-minute deal is not concluded by Wednesday, December 31, the gas supply may stop. This was reported by Bloomberg.
“Ukraine is under growing pressure from the Prime Minister of Slovakia Robert Fico and a group of companies from Central Europe, who demand the continuation of gas supplies from its eastern border with Russia to buyers from the European Union after the expiration of the transit agreement on December 31 … Budapest and Bratislava are still dependent on cheap gas from PJSC Gazprom“ what undermines the aspiration The EU will reduce its dependence on Russian energy carriers,” the article says.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:38 utc | 3
Ukraine Weekly Update, 27th December 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-8db
Posted by: The Busker | Dec 28 2024 16:43 utc | 4
Ukrainian PM boasts about their newly built fortification line in Zaporozhye oblast.
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1873042505291223314
But it seems, since RUAF is already rolling over the east-west line south of Pokrovsk from the flank, the same fate will follow all those lines in Zaporozhye oblast. It is not very useful to have a defensive line when the opponent is already behind your line and can just roll it from the flank and behind.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 16:44 utc | 5
Threats of escalation against Russia are just precarious posturing when Russia knows that USrael knows that Russia’s Oreshnik means escalation dominance: “Putin regards this weapon system as a versatile tool, enabling flexible and calibrated responses against Western escalation and allowing Russia to avoid the troubles of going nuclear” according to Ramzy Mardini’s reality-based reasoning, in The National Interest…
Apart from its advanced technological expertise, Russia’s vast reserves of critical minerals, energy resources, and industrial metals provide the raw materials necessary to sustain large-scale weapons production, which hasn’t yet reached its potential output. In a war where artillery remains “King of the Battlefield,” Russia produces artillery shells three times faster—and at a quarter of the cost—compared to American and European NATO members combined. To boot, Russia’s strategic partnerships with states like China, Iran, and North Korea have bolstered its access to key military ingredients, such as machine tools and microelectronics, in addition to combat-ready weapons like drones and artillery. This ensures its ability to sustain a high-intensity war even longer.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/perils-escalation-russia-are-still-very-real-214177
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 16:48 utc | 6
So what do barflies reckon? Will we see some kind of last-minute deal, with ‘sheep-dipped’ gas purportedly coming from Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan, pretending not to be Russian gas coming through Ukrainian pipelines?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:57 utc | 7
Patriots in Ukraine…
🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡Ukrainian patriots fighting along side the Russian army in liberating Ukraine from the Zelensky regime.
Some brave Christians from kiev and others, veterans of the AFU who believe in God and not some Nazi-NATO regime.
They help majorly with recon and sabotage.
https://x.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1873030380544246072
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 16:59 utc | 8
Jeremy…1631 Dec 28
Amazing how a small gesture such as an assassination attempt has brought out Braveheart in Robert Fico. The lockstep, herd mentality, engendered by the order-taking bureaucraps in Brussels still retains the blackmail/bribery hold over most EU pro$titicians…even as their populations awaken to their bullshit.,
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 28 2024 17:08 utc | 9
wo we now have evidence that ukraine is involved with the downing of another civilian airliner. first mh17, and now this one.
the world would be a better place if nato-backed ukraine is stripped of all its armaments. all they do is kill civilians anyways.
and nato should be stripped too. they kill even more civilians. already surpassed hitlers bodycount.
Posted by: J | Dec 28 2024 17:18 utc | 10
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 28 2024 17:08 utc | 10
Hard times make hard men. Fico had a survival experience, but was tough already before it. He is now even tougher.
The gender-confused politicians in the west are a flock of sheep repeating each other to make themselves sound loud, and have never experienced setbacks and personal threats. This is why they can shout and bark, often stemming from an extreme level of conditioning and ignorance. They have learned anything they say do not ever cause personal harm. Their main purpose is to be irritating and annoying and gang up on their opponents. No logic is possible with these creatures.
In this sense it’s easy to understand people who said Russia should have created a real show for them when they were filming Hollywood films in Kiev over the last few years. But it never happened, and based on their perceived immunity to threats, they feel invincible and ‘hands of God’. This is also partially responsible for unlimited western terrorist actions against Russia.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 17:21 utc | 11
First they downed the MH17 flight, then 10 years after they shoot down the Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243.
Posted by: AI_Revenger | Dec 28 2024 16:46 utc | 6
No they didnt shoot down MH17. Firstly, though, you must ask yourself what the hell was a passenger flight doing crossing the skies of a war zone where anti aircraft missiles were being used to counter ukrainian jet fighter attacks on civilians in donbas. Totally irresponsible behaviour by Kiev, risking civilian lives.
The plane was actually shot down by a ukraine jet fighter. This provided the perfect reason for the west to sanction and blame russia.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 28 2024 17:24 utc | 12
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 28 2024 17:24 utc | 13
Yes, the MH-17 civilian aircraft was guided to fly over Donbass by Kiev air traffic control.
I have even seen a report of western ‘advisors’ occupying the Kiev airport control tower during the time, but it’s years ago. But it’s possible or likely Britain has been instrumental in organizing an opportunity to shoot down this civilian airliner.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 17:27 utc | 13
We have a fucking liar at the bar. Everyone will recognise him.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 17:32 utc | 14
A bit more on the gas situation from Sputnik: https://sputnikglobe.com/20241228/electricity-deficit-and-loss-of-fees-how-halting-russian-gas-transit-will-backfire-for-ukraine-1121292062.html
Electricity Deficit and Loss of Fees: How Halting Russian Gas Transit Will Backfire For Ukraine
The Kiev regime’s decision not to extend the transit of Russian gas to Europe beyond January 1 is set to backfire on the country, despite Volodymyr Zelensky putting on a brave face.
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has warned that his country would halt electricity exports to Ukraine if Kiev stops supplying Russian gas to Central Europe.
If Fico follows through, Ukraine will likely face more power shortages.
Dependence on electricity imports: Ukraine relies heavily on around 1.7-2.1 gigawatts (GW) of electricity imported from Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania.
Loss of Slovakia’s imports: Slovakia alone exported 2.4 million megawatthours of electricity to Ukraine between January and November, a 152% year-on-year increase.
Uncertain compensation: It is unclear whether Poland, Hungary, and Romania could compensate for the loss if Slovakia ceases its electricity exports to Ukraine.
Increased demand and shortages: The International Energy Agency warned in September that peak demand could reach 18.5 GW this winter in Ukraine, with an estimated supply deficit of 6 GW.
Additional Impact of Halting Gas Transit
Loss of transit fees: Ukraine is set to lose $0.8-$1 billion annually in transit fees from Russian gas.
Virtual reverse system: The transit of Russian gas through Ukraine facilitated the “virtual reverse” system, where gas was bought by Kiev from European traders. Despite reduced consumption since 2022, this system was still in use.
Pipeline modifications: Halting Russian gas transits will force Ukraine to modify its pipeline system and operate it differently.
Challenges in gas distribution: A decrease in pressure in the main gas pipelines would hinder the transportation of gas produced in the Poltava and Kharkov regions to western regions, analysts assume. Conversely, delivering gas from underground storage facilities in the west to central and eastern regions will become more difficult, they warn.
Must admit I was wondering about the Ukrainian transit fees and whether the Kiev junta could be bloody-minded enough to cut off its nose to spite its face.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 18:02 utc | 16
Must admit I was wondering about the Ukrainian transit fees and whether the Kiev junta could be bloody-minded enough to cut off its nose to spite its face.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 18:02 utc | 20
i wouldnt be surprised if the eu-thieves would manufacture a scheme where “ukraine” get the missed transit fees from the fro..stolen russian assets just to spite in russias face.
and then they will go for some lawfare against hungary and slovakia (poland already threatens to pull hungary to court over some political asylum case with some polish oppositions or something) in order to make sure to keep them feeding electricity to the “ukraine”.
whatever the case, the western nazis will use any dirty trick in their books of deception and lies to keep the mother of all proxies afloat and russian revenues down.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 18:11 utc | 17
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 17:44 utc | 19
That post was not mine, but from an impostor. Not difficult to guess whom.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 18:14 utc | 18
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 18:11 utc | 21
Recent news were that some of the most devote US vassals in EUrostan are now selling their gold. Guess what? They are selling gold in exchange for US dollar reserve assets. They are not even selling it to prop up the Euro and Eurozone.
This to me implies US is quickly managing to drive its devote vassals in EU bankrupt, and the Eurozone is on its final legs.
So the EU can do whatever sanctions or steal whatever it wants, but ultimately it will just break up the euro faster and blow in their face. I understand the temporary dose of dopamine of ‘taking from Russia’ but that will be short lived. After the eurozone is permanently damaged, their ability to fund Ukraine will be weaker as well.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 18:34 utc | 19
It’s looking like Kurahove and the remaining fortifications to the NW are going to be taken soon. At that point, Russia will be in control of the entire Southern Donbass and can move into the Dnirpo region.
That will bring up an interesting legal situation. The four oblasts that voted to be part of Russia are one thing, but once Russia moves past the borders of those and takes territory in a new Oblast, that makes NATO really shit their pants.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 18:42 utc | 20
It is not very useful to have a defensive line when the opponent is already behind your line and can just roll it from the flank and behind.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 16:44 utc | 5
Particularly as RF now seems to accept leaving towns behind to let them handle no logistic support, a siege without a siege. You can do it if you can get enough troops there to deal with any desperate sortie.
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 28 2024 18:43 utc | 21
@Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 18:11 utc | 21
Yes, they’ll use the stolen money and EU minions’ money for US gas: tass.com/economy/1894567
“Ukraine has received the first batch of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States”.
Posted by: rk | Dec 28 2024 18:44 utc | 22
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 18:11 utc | 21
Yes, none of what you posted would surprise me, though I think Fico could well call the EU’s bluff in some way. There’s nothing to stop the sudden need for “essential emergency maintenance” on the Slovak side of the grid interconnector…
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Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 18:34 utc | 23
Recent news were that some of the most devote US vassals in EUrostan are now selling their gold. Guess what? They are selling gold in exchange for US dollar reserve assets. They are not even selling it to prop up the Euro and Eurozone.
The first two words that came into my mind when reading this:
“Utter lunatics.”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 18:47 utc | 23
Posted by: rk | Dec 28 2024 18:44 utc | 26
That’s incredibly inefficient from a thermodynamic perspective. Instead of getting gas piped in locally, it must be compressed, transported for thousands of miles, and decompressed. All that drives the cost WAY up.
No big deal for the US that can print $ but the Eurotards are going to pay through the nose.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 18:51 utc | 24
This to me implies US is quickly managing to drive its devote vassals in EU bankrupt, and the Eurozone is on its final legs.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 18:34 utc | 23
i may remember things wrong, but wasnt there this talk about how the eu should be forced to pay for energy in us dollars only a few years ago? no more €, only $, so that the us can have an effective monopoly on the energy market of europe, or something along those lines.
that would fit nicely with them forcing the eu to buy us dollar reserve assets.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 19:04 utc | 25
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 28 2024 19:04 utc | 29
You are right. If EU is going to not import anything anymore from anywhere else than the US, then they will not need other currencies or even the Euro, only USD.
I can easily see the motive and ability to force EU into such a totalitarian serfdom.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 19:06 utc | 26
“Ukraine has received the first batch of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States”.
Posted by: rk | Dec 28 2024 18:44 utc | 26
You wouldn’t happen to have a link for that? I’m interested in where the discharge terminal is; AIUI the Turkish authorities woṇ’t allow LNG carriers through the Bosporus, on the quite reasonable grounds that they don’t want one going boom! in the middle of Istanbul, so I wonder where the cargo was unloaded.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:11 utc | 27
I can easily see the motive and ability to force EU into such a totalitarian serfdom.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 19:06 utc | 30
This has a name: global young leaders.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 19:13 utc | 28
Passing this on from RT unlinked:
The Telegram channels of multiple major Russian news outlets were rendered inaccessible across the EU on Sunday. The affected channels now display a plaque stating that access to them has been restricted over alleged “violation of local laws,” with all the content unavailable.
According to media reports, the affected channels include such Russian majors as RIA Novosti, Izvestia, Rossiya 1, Channel One, NTV and Rossiyskaya Gazeta. While it was not immediately clear whether the bans are EU-wide, the restrictions have been reportedly rolled out in Poland, Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Greece, Italy and the Czech Republic.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 19:16 utc | 29
welll on rtnewsthe air control represntative is only now saying that airspace was closed over the airport…confusion ???that it is not clear to me the plane tried to land twice because of damage while space was closed or space closed-when, afterwards?
But anyways should have been told to return to origin immediately airspace under threat from Ukr drones which would have nearer than its crash place????? All sounds very sloppy and disconnected to me.
remember
DUBAI (Reuters) – Iran’s civil aviation body blamed a misaligned radar and an error by an air defence operator in a final report into the shooting-down of a Ukrainian passenger plane in January 2020 that killed all 176 people aboard.
Posted by: Jo | Dec 28 2024 19:18 utc | 30
#21
> i wouldnt be surprised if the eu-thieves would manufacture a scheme where “ukraine” get the missed transit fees from the fro..stolen russian assets just to spite in russias face.
Sure, but that won’t bring back cheap gas for EU, and you cant propaganda-away the high heating bills.
Posted by: Mirko | Dec 28 2024 19:25 utc | 31
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 19:16 utc | 33
Censorship chaotic, in my area htlm blocked is RIA and RT in english but not in Russian, but on Telegram RIA is available and RT is not, so it’s a bit or a random thing, Izvestia has been acting weird lately. But no matter how, plain and ugly censorship, Europe the old lady and her garden.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:11 utc | 31
The gas was offloaded in Greece, brotherly orthodox Greece, our friends the greecians as Dubbya would say…
Posted by: Paco | Dec 28 2024 19:31 utc | 32
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:11 utc | 31
I read that the unloading terminal was in Greece. That would mean another long journey over rail to get to Ukraine, with more transport costs.
That’s some expensive LNG!
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 19:16 utc | 33
I always suspected that when the UAF really collapses, the western press would go full Goebbels mode. Looks like it’s here …
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 19:34 utc | 33
OMG this is freaking hilarious! The stooges in the Biden WH are having a SHITFIT because soldiers are doing their job! They actually expected to just roll through Kursk as if it was Syria .. now that they’re getting their asses kicked, they’re on an epic whine-fest and shitting their pants like a bunch of two-year-olds!
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5058464-white-house-russia-north-korea-ukraine/
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 19:39 utc | 34
Posted by: Paco | Dec 28 2024 19:31 utc | 36
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 19:34 utc | 37
Thanks, both. There’s a saying in my little corner of the world: “That’s a long way round for a short-cut”, which seems to fit.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:51 utc | 35
The reports of DPRK mass casualties are likely false. The fact that they’re reporting over 3,000 casualties, but no captured POWs at all, with the ones they’ve managed to capture having conveniently died, suggests that Mr. Kirby and Mr. Zelensky are simply lying. There were also reports of mass desertions – where did these Korean soldiers run off too? No one knows, because they didn’t, because the DPRK presence likely isn’t there in the numbers asserted. I think it’s plausible that the DPRK is trying to get its armed forces some combat experience in a modern war, but the forlorn frontal assaults that the White House is talking up are echoes of cold war anti-communist rhetoric, and of the usual lies about dozens of “repelled assaults” from the Ukrainian military. Neither are trustworthy sources. The fact that every other soldier has a fucking camera strapped to their head, yet we have no evidence of any soldiers speaking Chosungul, is contrary to the state department narrative.
Posted by: fnord | Dec 28 2024 19:58 utc | 36
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:38 utc | 3
#########
Do you remember how a month or so ago, one very handsome, wise, and charismatic bar member stressed how big a deal the expiry of the gas transport contract would be?
That incredibly modest and brave person would never do something as gauche as a victory lap but I reckon he has earned one. 😁😁😁
I love how Zelly is cutting his own throat pretending to serve the EU while helping to cut their throat on the energy front.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 20:00 utc | 37
@ fnord | Dec 28 2024 19:58 utc | 40
Pro-NATO/AFU social media “reporting” has claimed there are “many captured” INKs(tm), but they can’t show them “for their own safety”. No I’m not making this one up.
Posted by: boneless | Dec 28 2024 20:09 utc | 38
I found this video from History Legends fascinating.
He explains at length how Russia has multiplied its army size without conscription and why it has aided the federal government to bypass corruption by paying soldiers directly for signing and fulfilling contracts. He also discusses the evolution of battlefield “bounties” from under the USSR in WW2 to today and how Russia has made military service a lucrative career path for millions of people today, which dovetails nicely with Putin’s social policies agenda on demography and education.
How Did Russia Grow Such a MASSIVE Army
30 minutes of your time well spent if you have an interest in Russian society during wartime.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 20:19 utc | 39
Somehow I missed this … its two weeks old but they’ve already begun suspending operations at the big coke facility near Pokrovsk.
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines-largest-steelmaker-suspends-operations-at-donetsk-oblast-site/
Given recent front changes, it’s probably down to mere days before the entire thing has to be shut down for safety reasons. It’s inside of shelling range, now.
Avoid Blackrock New Year’s eve parties if you don’t want to be anally raped!
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 20:27 utc | 40
So what do barflies reckon? Will we see some kind of last-minute deal, with ‘sheep-dipped’ gas purportedly coming from Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan, pretending not to be Russian gas coming through Ukrainian pipelines?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:57 utc | 8
Well I can’t see it, I think the gas will actually stop, but my wife who is Russian thinks it will be business as usual with the gas being laundered through a 3rd party and it’ll all continue.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 28 2024 20:33 utc | 41
That the Ukrainians ran out is shown by the 2nd-cheapest Balts and Finns being sent into the warm-up now. Blinken still has 3 weeks to start WWIII.
Posted by: xblob | Dec 28 2024 20:44 utc | 42
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 28 2024 20:27 utc | 44
I don’t really see a reason why RUAF would really even need to assault Pokrovsk city itself. They can continue expanding to the unopposed Zaporozhye direction in field terrain for a month or two and let Pokrovsk wither on the wine and keep bombarding it. Then it will be ripe for harvest as it is already so far behind any relevant position of the front that the AFU might abandon it on its own, lest they get surrounded.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 20:48 utc | 43
Dima says that the Ukrainians are leaving their positions and retreating.
Some time ago someone wrote here that the fascist barrier troops made up of Nazis and mercenaries in the rear of the Ukrainian frontline units were sent to Kursk and burned up there. There is simply no one left to shoot the Ukrainians in the back.
Can someone please provide more details.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 28 2024 20:50 utc | 44
In the last week we’ve seen three “terrorist attacks” – the sinking of Russia’s ship, the Azerbaijanian plane, and the cutting of the power cable in the Baltic, the latter two which were attributed to Russia. This is standard propaganda, quoting anonymous “experts” and sources suggesting it was Russia without any proof whatsoever. And people are so primed by repetition that it’s easy for most to believe.
However, the destruction of a ship and plane outside of the warzone seems like a significant escalation. Russia may need to establish deterrance, though perhaps through a third actor like the Houthis. Everything Russia does is seemingly methodical and well thought out, but they do react.
Posted by: Carrot Wax | Dec 28 2024 20:58 utc | 45
@ PalmaSailor | Dec 28 2024 20:33 utc | 45
If by “it all” she means Russia continuing getting paid for selling their goods elsewhere, while EU will continue to rely on more expensive sources of gas transit and project 404 becoming an even more expensive endeavor due to losing transit fee revenue, then yes.
That’s without getting into so-called-ukraine possibly siphoning off some of that gas supply.
That’s my layman’s understanding anyway.
Posted by: boneless | Dec 28 2024 21:00 utc | 46
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Posted by: boneless | Dec 28 2024 21:00 utc | 50
She thinks that Russian gas will continue to come out of western taps but it will be invoiced and shipped via the moon / Houthis / flat earth earthers / Paddington bear / Madonna / if that’s what it takes.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 28 2024 21:12 utc | 47
And I’m not the first man to think my wife is probably right..
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 28 2024 21:13 utc | 48
“Ukraine has received the first batch of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States”.
Posted by: rk | Dec 28 2024 18:44 utc | 26
You wouldn’t happen to have a link for that? I’m interested in where the discharge terminal is; AIUI the Turkish authorities woṇ’t allow LNG carriers through the Bosporus, on the quite reasonable grounds that they don’t want one going boom! in the middle of Istanbul, so I wonder where the cargo was unloaded.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:11 utc | 31
The gas was offloaded in Greece, brotherly orthodox Greece, our friends the greecians as Dubbya would say…
Posted by: Paco | Dec 28 2024 19:31 utc | 36
In the previous open thread, yesterday, I liked to the tass report on that and even mentioned it could be a trap after the west sunk a RF ship and pirated another. An irresistible tit for tat, only it wasn’t.
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 28 2024 21:15 utc | 49
@unimperator | Dec 28 2024 17:27 utc | 14
The plane was under the control of Air Traffic Control Tower for Dnepropetrovsk Airport when it was shot down. Vassili Prozorov gives some background with supporting documentation in the following
The secret visit of American attaches to the East of Ukraine on the date of the Boeing Disaster Part 1-
https://odysee.com/@No_One_Is_Forgotten:a/BOEING-1-ENG-(online-video-cutter.com):2
The secret visit of American attaches to the East of Ukraine on the date of the Boeing Disaster Part 2-
https://odysee.com/@No_One_Is_Forgotten:a/боинг2-(online-video-cutter.com):1
Posted by: cirsium | Dec 28 2024 21:39 utc | 50
Posted by: AI_Revenger | Dec 28 2024 16:46 utc | 6
Hate to break it to you, pal, but it was your Nazi buddies that shot down MH17.
Consider how UkroNazi security services quickly released a falsified phone intercept recording as “evidence” which quickly fell apart when inspected on audio analysis software as amateurishly edited together sections of a series of entirely separate conversations pieced together to appear incriminating. Now why would the “innocent party” feel compelled to do something so desperate? In the end it mattered not of course, as the NATO mob had decided guilt before any evidence was collected. The country whose aircraft it was was denied access to the investigative process, as was Russia, while the other prime suspect was not.
My advice to you, read the book “The Lie That Shot Down MH17” available on Amazon.
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 21:51 utc | 52
Interesting if peripheral news from German hackers.. 2 hours of intercepted radio traffic let you break the NATO encryption and extract the secret key.
https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-breaking-nato-radio-encryption
Don’t know how long updates would take, if they would be feasible at all or if there is any awareness of the problem.
Looks like an enigma level issue to me. Similar was also done to TETRA a while back..
Posted by: SOS | Dec 28 2024 21:51 utc | 53
the next round of escalation has begun: NATO is trying to blockade Baltic Sea and St. Petersburg, naval exercises have begun, and provoke Russia into an attack. NATO headquarters for this is a new base in Rostock, Germany
Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2024 21:52 utc | 54
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 17:44 utc | 19
Stalin was fighting a single adversary (your heroes, the Nazis) while Putin is fighting approximately 30 or more adversaries simultaneously, but you’d be forgiven for not knowing this, you being an ignorant clown and all.
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 21:58 utc | 55
MH17? The latest air line tragedy?
In both, EUkraine is a major important participant in the festivities.
The EUkrainian liner shot down by Iran? It was headed home in the middle of a very real threat, by the USA, to exact retribtion, on Iran, for shelling its bases in Iraq.
There needs to be a Geneva Convention on airliners and airports in times of war. That’s been evident for a half century.
Posted by: baldur dasche | Dec 28 2024 22:00 utc | 56
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 20:00 utc | 41
I always wondered why so few ever commented on the expiry date of the nat gas. Putin oughta photo op a shit eating grin while turning a big valve off, announcing the end of filling the euro-pipeline with gas. Say “we don’t do limp-wristed sanctions. We fuck you hard.”
Posted by: comrade simba | Dec 28 2024 22:01 utc | 57
It is most amazing to witness Zelenski’s continuing survival. We note Kissinger’s remark about the danger of being the friend of the US but that looks like BS as obsolete. So what? Nearly all of Europe suffers from Zelensky’s decisions but no one removes him or even bothers to demand new elections that would depose him. No gas? Gee, that’s tough. Somebody should do something, I guess.
What’s the point of discussing conspiracies when such an obvious impediment goes on and on and on?
Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 28 2024 22:01 utc | 58
Dear Bernhard
Please permanently ban the imposter “Naive” at #19 who is posing as the real “Naive”.
Thank you and happy new year…nwwoods
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 22:02 utc | 59
It would seem that Kurakove has fallen. certainly the Administrative cente. possibly the power plant remains
Posted by: watcher | Dec 28 2024 22:04 utc | 60
It‘s getting prickly:
Zelensky accused Fico of opening a second front against Ukraine at Putin’s suggestion
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:38 utc | 3
Question: who instructed Zelenski to open a second front against Slovakia?
Posted by: Martina | Dec 28 2024 22:08 utc | 61
So many little corporals here masquerading as armchair generals, licking Putin’s high heeled shoes. Why I rarely post. Almost fun reading the cat fights, the back and forth with hissing. More like a middle school cafeteria than a manly bar. The KGB would have found many assets here ….
Posted by: Johannes | Dec 28 2024 22:13 utc | 62
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 21:58 utc | 59
The naive to whom you reply is an impostor.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 22:13 utc | 63
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 22:02 utc | 63
Thanks!
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 22:14 utc | 64
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 20:19 utc | 43
everybody loves a big fat bounty <3
Posted by: Macpott | Dec 28 2024 22:19 utc | 65
@6. “The world would definitely be a better place with Russia stripped out of its Soviet toys like anti-air, since they don’t do anything better with it than killing civilians anyway. ”
Were you calling for the US to be stripped of its anti air toys when they shot down Iranian Airlines for no apparent reason? Or was that “before your time” so doesnt exist?
Posted by: Yarpos | Dec 28 2024 22:27 utc | 66
Stalin was fighting a single adversary (your heroes, the Nazis) while Putin is fighting approximately 30 or more adversaries simultaneously, but you’d be forgiven for not knowing this, you being an ignorant clown and all.
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2024 21:58 utc | 59
Stalin fought many of the same entities that Putin is fighting today.
Germany, Italy. Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Croatia. Finland.
Ukrainians fought for Hitler, too.
I probably forgot some. They certainly decided to forget their dalliance with the Nazis once the Nazis got routed.
Bottomline? Never forget that if you point your finger at someone, 3 fingers of your hand point back at you.
Posted by: Martina | Dec 28 2024 22:29 utc | 67
Posted by: Martina | Dec 28 2024 22:29 utc | 71
I definitely forgot Austria in the line-up.
Even if Austria formed part of Germany under Hitler – who was an Austrian himself.
Posted by: Martina | Dec 28 2024 22:38 utc | 68
Oh, and then there were countries who decided to not fight Germany. Countries that just surrendered. Denmark, for example.
Approximately 7,000 Danes are believed to have enlisted in Frikorps Danmark to fight for Nazi Germany. The vast majority of the soldiers served on the Eastern Front, where they fought in the first line against the Soviet Union. About a third of the Danish volunteer soldiers were killed.
Posted by: Martina | Dec 28 2024 22:49 utc | 69
Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 16:57 utc | 8
Re European problems with gas …..
Thanks for posting on this. The Dec31 transit deadline is something I’ve been vaguely musing on especially Q3/Q4 ‘24.
Back in 2021 (almost ancient history) twitter and Captured Corporate Media were panic fixated on the looming contract negotiations and breathlessly reporting on the storage capacity of European storage. The price fluctuations were also a matter of almost autistic obsession.
Now? Dec 29 from where I type, and ….. nothing.
ok, I’ve lost access to X/twit because no account, but I’m not being barraged hourly about the European Gas Gap as previously. It seems like the Dog that Didn’t Bark…. For some reason the Controlled media doesn’t want the sheep nervous about Russian gas contracts.
Why?
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BTW Mr rhythmic slang, while you haven’t quite reached “Karl” level of @barflie (who can?, it’s platinum plus), your posts are gold standard, and much appreciated.
Gracias.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 28 2024 22:50 utc | 70
First they downed the MH17 flight, then 10 years after they shoot down the Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243.
Yep, not a good look for Russia. The world would definitely be a better place with Russia stripped out of its Soviet toys like anti-air, since they don’t do anything better with it than killing civilians anyway.
Posted by: AI_Revenger | Dec 28 2024 16:46 utc | 6
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You are full of it on both counts. Still, even if you are right about both events, they were not deliberate actions: one may be an accident by Donbas Militias (not Russian forces) while fighting neo-Nazis after an illegal coup organized and paid for by the USA (which was not an accident), where an estimated 14,000 people were killed in the Donbas and lugansk oblasts (also, not an accident either).
It is too soon to know what happened with the Azerbaijan Airliner; I think you shit on Russia too soon: but I guess that is how you roll.
But while we are discussing who shit on whom, who do you think destroyed the Nord Stream gas pipeline between Russia and Germany; was it an accident or deliberate?
Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 22:51 utc | 71
Something to think about:
It appears that in 2014 a group of religious Jews took over Ukraine. Instead of sticking to the well tried method of infiltrating both sides of the parliament, they threatened the elected leader, Yanukovych, who fled to Russia, and they assumed power in a violent coup. This was a mistake, as Ukrainians in the east mistook this coup for a neo-Nazi takeover, and refused to acknowledge the coup government as legitimate. This led to the civil war. If they had stuck to their old play-book they would probably now control all of Ukraine, and few would have noticed, or been able to do anything about, the change in power.
It is not clear who threatened Yanukovych but it was likely Tyahnybok’s crowd. Tyahnybok himself is likely a Jew as he
1) is the leader of a neo-Nazi party,
2) conspired with the Jew Victoria Nuland (U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs), and
3) has won all (nine, or ten) court cases bought against him for inciting ethnic hatred.
It is notable that the 2014 coup government found positions for the Jew Arseniy Yatsenyuk (Prime Minister of Ukraine, 27 February 2014), the Jew Petro Poroshenko (President of Ukraine, 7 June 2014) and the Jew Vitali Klitschko (Mayor of Kiev, 25 May 2014) but no position was found for the (supposed) neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok (Svoboda Party leader) when he lost his position in the parliament some months later (October 2014). Subsequently, the Jew Volodymyr Groysman (14 April 2016) became Prime Minister and the Jew Volodymyr Zelensky (20 May 2019) became President. So much for the fable of neo-Nazi’s taking over Ukraine in a right-wing coup. The neo-Nazis just provided a smoke screen for the Jew takeover.
The Ukraine gambit appears to be an attempt to replay the second world war.
1933: We have a Jew takeover of Germany disguised as a Nazi takeover.
The takeover occurred when the Jew Hitler assumed dictatorial powers.
Leads to war against the Soviet Union.
2014: We have a Jew takeover of Ukraine disguised as a neo-Nazi takeover.
The takeover is already complete (except in the east).
Leads to war against Russia.
Seeing that many of the politicians in “neo-Nazi” Ukraine are Jews, or of Jewish descent, I wondered if the same may have been true in Nazi Germany. So, I checked the surnames of a large number of people from the Nazi era. What I found is truly amazing. Note that all surnames designated Jewish can be found in books on Jewish Genealogy.
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname].
Below is a list of Nazi Field Marshalls.
Looks like they were all of Jewish descent.
Fedor von Bock [Jew surname].
Werner von Blomberg [Jew surname].
Walther von Brauchitsch = Brauch-itsch [Jew surname-son of]
Ernst von Busch [Jew surname].
Hermann Göring = Gör-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb [variant of Jew surname Lieb?]
Wilhelm Keitel [Jew surname].
Albert Kesselring = Kessel-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Ewald von Kleist [Jew surname].
Gunther von Kluge [Jew surname].
Georg von Küchler [Jew surname].
Wilhelm List [Jew surname].
Erich von Manstein [Jew surname]. Born Lewinski [Jew surname].
Erhard Milch [Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Walther Model [Jew surname].
Friedrich von Paulus [variant of the Jew surname Paul?]
Walther von Reichenau = Reiche-Nau = [Jew surname-Jew surname]
Erwin Rommel [variant of Jew names Frommel and Trommel?]
Gerd von Rundstedt = Rund-stedt [Jew surname-town]
Ferdinand Schörner [variant of the Jew surname Tschorne?]
Hugo Sperrle = Sperr-le = [Jew surname-common suffix] Luftwaffe.
Erwin von Witzleben [variant of Witzler-ben? Jew surname-son of]
Those of Jewish descent in Hitler’s life (non-military).
Martin Bormann [Jew surname]. Hitler’s private secretary. Money man.
Eva Braun [Jew surname]. Hitler’s mistress and wife.
Hans Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s lawyer.
Ulrich Graf [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal companion 1920-1923.
Gertrud Junge [Jew surname] nee Gertrud Humps. Hitler’s private secretary.
Theodor Morell [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Karl Brandt [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Albert Speer [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal architect and city planner.
Fritz Wiedemann [Jew surname]. Personal adjutant to Hitler.
Julius Schreck [Jew surname]. Hitler’s chauffeur.
Karl von Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s genealogist.
Hugo Blaschke [Jew surname]. Hitler’s dentist.
Hugo Erlanger [Jew surname]. Hitler’s landlord for ten years.
Some others.
Adolf Eichmann [Jew surname]. Head of the Scientific Museum for Jewish Affairs.
Rudolf Hess [Jew surname]. Deputy to the Fuehrer.
Heinrich Himmler [Jew surname]. Leading National Socialist politician.
Alfred Rosenberg [Jew surname]. Leading proponent of National Socialist ideology.
Julius Streicher [Jew surname]. National Socialist politician.
Wilhelm Messerschmitt [Jew surname]. Aircraft designer and manufacturer.
Hjalmar Schacht [Jew surname]. Financier, president of the Reichsbank.
Joseph Goebbels [variant of the Jew surname Göbel?] National Socialist politician and propagandist.
Reinhard Heydrich = Heyd-Rich [Jew surname-Jew surname] Administrator of the concentration camps.
Here is a list of Nazi Chiefs of General Staff.
They were probably all of Jewish descent.
Heinz Guderian [Jew surname]. Chief of General Staff Jul 1944 to Mar 1945
Adolf Heusinger [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jun 1944 to Jul 1944
Kurt Zeitzler [variant of the Jew name Weitzler?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1942 to Jul 1944
Franz Halder [variant of the Jew name Halde?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1938 to Sep 1942
Ludwig Beck [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jul 1935 to Aug 1938
Various leaders.
იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი [variant of the Jew name ჯუდაშვილი] (Joseph Stalin) General Secretary of the Soviet Union; ჯუდაშვილი translated means “son of Judah”.
Mikhail Gorbachev [variant of the Jew name Gorbaczyński?] President of the Soviet Union
Boris Yeltsin [variant of the Jew name Peltson?] President of Russia
Vladimir Putin [variant of the Jew names Jutin Kutin Mutin Rutin Yutin?] President of Russia [Владимир Путин]
Angela Merkel [Jew surname] nee Kasner [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Olaf Sholtz [variant of the Jew name Shultz?] Chancellor of Germany
Friedrich Merz [Jew surname] German politician (Head of CDU)
Annalena Baerbock Baer-Bock [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Franklin Roosevelt [variant of the Jew name Rosenfelt] President USA
George Bush [variant of the Jew name Busch?] President USA
Donald Trump [variant of the Jew name Trumpf?] President USA
Stepan Bandera [variant of the Jew surname Bander?] Ukrainian Nationalist
Volodymyr Zelensky [Jew surname] President of Ukraine
Volodymyr Groysman [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Denys Shmigal [variant of the Jew name Schmigelski] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Vitali Klitschko [variant of the Jew name Klitsch?] Mayor of Kiev
Lech Kaczyński [Jew surname] President of Poland
Jarosław Kaczyński [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Poland
Mateusz Morawiecki [variant of the Jew names Morawiec Morawietz etc?] Prime Minister of Poland
Pedro Sanchez [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Spain
Mark Rutte [Jew surname] Dutch Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni [variant of the Jew name Melon?] Italian Prime Minister
Kaja Kallas [variant of the Jew names Khallas Callas Challas?] Prime Minister of Estonia
Petr Pavel [Jew surname] Czech President; Chief of the NATO Military Committee
Klaus Johannis [Jew surname] President of Romania
Jaap Scheffer [Jew surname] NATO Secretary General 2004-2009
Jens Stoltenberg [variant of the Jew name Stoltzenberg?] NATO Secretary General 2014-
Charles Michel [Jew surname] European Council President
Ursula von der Leyen [Jew surname] nee Albrecht [Jew surname] President of the European Commission
This link provides a list of Jewish surnames taken from the following books:
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames by Lars Menk
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Italy, France and “Portuguese” Communities by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Maghreb, Gibraltar, and Malta by Alexander Beider
The Jacobi Papers: Genealogical Studies of Leading Ashkenazi Families by Paul Jacobi & Emanuel Elyasaf
Posted by: choose | Dec 28 2024 22:58 utc | 72
“Ukraine has received the first batch of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States.”
Posted by: rk | Dec 28 2024 18:44 utc | 26
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What good is the US LNG if the widows and orphans of the 600,000 plus AFU forces killed in Zelenski’s war can’t afford to pay for it?
Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 22:59 utc | 73
@fnord | Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:58:00 GMT | 40
The reports of DPRK mass casualties are likely false.
Likely, yes. Both sides exaggerate their enemies’ losses. Although the Ukrainians have said the North Koreans prefer suicide to capture, which is plausible given that culture, in order to explain why so few have been captured. However, the overall casualty numbers are exaggerated for propaganda purposes.
If the North Koreans are engaged in combat, still a big if, then they are likely regulated to support or minor roles, and not full-on assaults. I don’t envision a scenario where the Russians – with limited Korean speakers among them, would allow the North Koreans full or even limited autonomy in Kursk to conduct the kind of assaults that Ukraine says they are doing.
Posted by: James M. | Dec 28 2024 23:03 utc | 74
@choose | Sat, 28 Dec 2024 22:58:00 GMT | 76
Did you check under your bed too? I think there’s a Jew under every Gentile bed, that’s standard procedure per the Protocols of Zion. If not there check your closet, or your wife’s bed. Stupidity writ large. Always da Jews – come up with a better conspiracy yeah.
Posted by: James M. | Dec 28 2024 23:07 utc | 75
Posted by: James M. | Dec 28 2024 23:03 utc | 78
Most here bought the US Bullshit of NK soldiers on the battlefields. Shows how good their brainwashing is.
Drones from both sides cover the battlefields and they fly very low. Any oriental faces can clearly be seen so there’d lots of video proof of Asian fighters even if no recovered Dead bodies.
Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 23:21 utc | 76
Symmetry inside the mind of an enslaved dog:
Russia takes a slice of Ukraine;
response: KILL
USA annexes Canada, Greenland, Mexico and Panama;
response: LLIK
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 28 2024 23:24 utc | 77
Posted by: choose | Dec 28 2024 22:58 utc | 76
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Your history is a little fucked up. It was the Obama administration that ousted the elected president of Ukraine. Cookie woman Nuland bragged about how the Obama administration spent 5 billion dollars on the coup. Of course, Nuland’s husband, Robert Kagan, is a Jew whose family (I think I read somewhere) migrated from Ukraine.
Shit! I am making your case for you…
Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 23:24 utc | 78
Posted by: Vargas | Dec 28 2024 23:10 utc | 80
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So, are you the “bad” Vargas with the capital V?
Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 23:27 utc | 79
Yep, not a good look for Russia. The world would definitely be a better place with Russia stripped out of its Soviet toys like anti-air, since they don’t do anything better with it than killing civilians anyway.
Posted by: AI_Revenger | Dec 28 2024 16:46 utc | 6
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Not a good look for you, the Ukies and the US.
The Ukies send long range drones to Grozny far out of the SMSO zone. Russian Air Defense kicks in with shrapnel and electronic warfare, including jamming.
The results are shrapnel and drone debris flying everywhere, comms and navs being jammed while a civilian airliner declares an emergency and wants to land in a war zone. The Ukies state that the Grozny folk should have closed the air space. Denying permission to land is what exactly and diverting the flight to an alternate airport is not responsible management?
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. I picked that one up in the late seventies. Still good all these years and thank for providing an exhibit.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Dec 28 2024 23:28 utc | 80
Posted by: choose | Dec 28 2024 22:58 utc | 76
Hello, back again with your wild conspiracy theories about Jews in Germany? Just like last time, you’re wrong. Here are a few examples:
Eichmann: A typical German name, derived from a place (man living near oaks).
Hess: Typically German, referring to a place (Prussia, I guess)
Himmler: Derived from the Old Germanic word for “heaven”.
Rosenberg: An old noble name.
Streicher: A professional designation, for musicians or poor, traveling artists.
Messerschmitt: A professional designation, a smith for cutleries.
Almost all German family names have their origin either in a place or a profession.
Please leave this forum alone. Many Germans read here who have a much better understanding of the history of German names. And most of them will agree that you are talking complete nonsense.
Posted by: Tuk | Dec 28 2024 23:34 utc | 81
Posted by: comrade simba | Dec 28 2024 22:01 utc | 61
#########
The thing is, we knew about the expiry, how the Ukrainians were skimming for “free” energy, and how autistic the Russians are about contract interpretation.
Some of the debate here was about how loss of electricity was a bigger issue than loss of gas transit.
The difference always was the loss of access to contracted (price and supply locked in) Russian gas to EU countries, some of which like Moldova, Slovakia, and Austria don’t have the economic clout or runway that Germany does when the gas gets shut off.
Everyone talks a big game in “The Garden” about decoupling from Russia but the literal freezing of elderly family members will poison the younger generations, who already have internet access, against the EU.
That fool Zelensky has made himself the scapegoat for EU policy, placing a noose voluntarily around his neck.
The more I see from Ukrainians, the less impressed I am. They seem hyper emotional and reactionary when compared to Russians. Very little emotional control.
Fearsome on the battlefield at times but absolutely useless when it comes to governance and diplomacy. The children in the room, throwing tantrums and screaming.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 23:36 utc | 82
So many little corporals here masquerading as armchair generals, licking Putin’s high heeled shoes. Why I rarely post.
Posted by: Johannes | Dec 28 2024 22:13 utc | 66
Perhaps we could all benefit from you returning to your previous behavior.
Posted by: Organic | Dec 28 2024 23:36 utc | 83
@choose | Sat, 28 Dec 2024 22:58:00 GMT | 76
Oh my god. I apparently need to take a genetic test immediately. I’m probably Jewish too, right?
No really. Please go to the doctor immediately. You’re seriously ill.
You jew hater have no understanding when and how and why the Jews in German-speaking countries got their German names.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 28 2024 23:41 utc | 84
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 28 2024 17:27 utc | 14
It is only necessary to know when Bellingcat was created to understand who planned and organised the shot down of the MH17.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 23:43 utc | 85
Posted by: choose | Dec 28 2024 22:58 utc | 76
This sort of misleading post should be removed. You are confusing common German names with those which are primarily Jewish names. Names on the list which are regarded as common Jewish names I will give you but for the rest rubbish
Also how many generations do you count. Jewishness travels via the female line while surnames the father. It is quite possible for someone to have a very Jewish name inherited from a great great grandfather ie 1/16 parts Jewish.
Now yes of course in Eastern Europe including parts of Germany, the % of the population of known Jewish ethnicity was huge – up to 30% in Lemberg (Lvov) and surrounds. So yes there would be very many Jewish people in high positions in Germany, even under the NAZIs. But you seem not to understand that many would be German first Jewish second – not all but many.
Posted by: watcher | Dec 28 2024 23:55 utc | 87
Any oriental faces can clearly be seen so there’d lots of video proof of Asian fighters even if no recovered Dead bodies.
Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 23:21 utc | 81
Sure, lots of videos. That’s why you are not able to show even one.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 23:57 utc | 88
“…Turkish authorities woṇ’t allow LNG carriers through the Bosporus, on the quite reasonable grounds that they don’t want one going boom! in the middle of Istanbul, so I wonder where the cargo was unloaded.”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 28 2024 19:11 utc | 31
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Well now we know that Turkey can be quite flexible for the right price.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 29 2024 0:02 utc | 89
Come on, Pokrovsk is already 3 spokes of the wheel down (soon 4) out of 7.
Curious to know how long andrivka will last after kurahove falls (anyone reading my comments mentioned the Afu need to keep the (already breached ) prokovsk/andrivka arch.
Velika is also a mater of time.
Though I see no signs of wanting to close the trap going north by the dnieper…
Toretsk Still on an unstoppable slow grind
Anyone cares?
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 29 2024 0:03 utc | 90
@Surferket | Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:21:00 GMT | 81
Drones from both sides cover the battlefields and they fly very low. Any oriental faces can clearly be seen so there’d lots of video proof of Asian fighters even if no recovered Dead bodies.
It’s difficult to make out faces on drone footage, especially the kamikaze drones, since they are mostly blurred, whether intentional or not.
This is footage of a supposed drone attack on alleged North Koreans by the Ukrainians in Kursk, allegedly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvVX5uobsFM
I can’t make out the faces, other than they are not darker skinned. It’s entirely possible they are all Caucasian, but I cannot say with one hundred percent certainty.
That said, I think the presence and subsequent “casualties” of the North Koreans is greatly exaggerated.
Posted by: James M. | Dec 29 2024 0:07 utc | 91
Moldova is preparing for the vast majority of the population to leave Transnistria, Moldova even offered taking a joint approach with them but they refused to do so. Russia losing another one of their imperialistic projects for this war.
Posted by: Bizzles | Dec 29 2024 0:17 utc | 92
imperialistic projects
Posted by: Bizzles | Dec 29 2024 0:17 utc | 98
what is this? babys first words?
Posted by: J | Dec 29 2024 0:22 utc | 93
That said, I think the presence and subsequent “casualties” of the North Koreans is greatly exaggerated.
Posted by: James M. | Dec 29 2024 0:07 utc | 97
Greatly exaggerated politely meaning “utter bullshit”? Makes you wonder how much more outrageous the lies can get. The NAFO’s will happily parrot anything of course.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Dec 29 2024 0:26 utc | 94
Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 23:21 utc | 81
Sure, lots of videos. That’s why you are not able to show even one.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 28 2024 23:57 utc | 94
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In the US, the MSM is overwhelmed with these “dead NK troops.” Except that you can’t see their face, and even though they have Russian papers, they look too new, according to the MSM mouthpieces.
Also, the MSM liars claim that Ukraine captured a person with Asian features, but he died in custody; he also had those new papers that concern the Western Media so much.
In another “report,” they showed a row of bodies, and it was noted that “many” were NKs. There were no close-ups in that report.
Doesn’t Russia have a large Asian population?
“Most ethnic Russians have a so-called European appearance, but there are many Russian citizens who could be classified as ethnically Asian… Asians can simply be described as Mongoloids. Among them… Kalmyks, Evenks, Yukagirs, Buryats, Tuvans, Khakass, Chukchis, Koryaks, Eskimos, and Aleuts.” [and Koreans, Ed].
https://www.rbth.com/politics_and_society/2017/05/10/why-some-russians-look-asian-759856#:~:text=According%20to%20the%202010
Posted by: Ed | Dec 29 2024 0:28 utc | 95
That said, I think the presence and subsequent “casualties” of the North Koreans is greatly exaggerated. @ James M. | Dec 29 2024 0:07 utc | 97
None of that is exaggerated, all of it is made up. There is not a shred of even circumstantial evidence in the first place to exaggerate after more than a month of reports.
Posted by: boneless | Dec 29 2024 0:35 utc | 96
Ukraine announced that they had no living North Korean prisoners, they all died from their injuries.
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Ukrainian-soldiers-burn-the-bodies-of-their-dead-in-a-forest-belt.mp4?_=3
Ukrainian soldiers burn the bodies of their dead in a forest belt
Posted by: smartfox | Dec 29 2024 0:37 utc | 97
Portuguese” Communities by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Maghreb, Gibraltar, and Malta by Alexander Beider
The Jacobi Papers: Genealogical Studies of Leading Ashkenazi Families by Paul Jacobi & Emanuel Elyasaf
Posted by: choose | Dec 28 2024 22:58 utc | 76
Dear whoeveryouare
just when i thought todays thread was missing the christmas dross you puke up your boring contribution. We can’t help the names we have, what people do and say is more significant. if you must please control your puking to once a year.
Fremlins, for all, I wish.
Posted by: Fremlins | Dec 29 2024 0:40 utc | 98
RE: “Russia losing another one of their imperialistic projects for this war.”
Posted by: Bizzles | Dec 29 2024 0:17 utc | 98
More like losing a bunch of squatters that don’t pay their gas bills. Best to Moldova’s freezing butts in March. Bout time Russia got rid of those Euro leeches and kept only Russian proper citizens in Transnistria.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 29 2024 0:44 utc | 99
Something to think about:
It appears that in 2014 a group of religious Jews took over Ukraine. Instead of sticking to the well tried method of infiltrating both sides of the parliament, they threatened the elected leader, Yanukovych, who fled to Russia, and they assumed power in a violent coup. This was a mistake, as Ukrainians in the east mistook this coup for a neo-Nazi takeover, and refused to acknowledge the coup government as legitimate. This led to the civil war. If they had stuck to their old play-book they would probably now control all of Ukraine, and few would have noticed, or been able to do anything about, the change in power.
It is not clear who threatened Yanukovych but it was likely Tyahnybok’s crowd. Tyahnybok himself is likely a Jew as he
1) is the leader of a neo-Nazi party,
2) conspired with the Jew Victoria Nuland (U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs), and
3) has won all (nine, or ten) court cases bought against him for inciting ethnic hatred.
It is notable that the 2014 coup government found positions for the Jew Arseniy Yatsenyuk (Prime Minister of Ukraine, 27 February 2014), the Jew Petro Poroshenko (President of Ukraine, 7 June 2014) and the Jew Vitali Klitschko (Mayor of Kiev, 25 May 2014) but no position was found for the (supposed) neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok (Svoboda Party leader) when he lost his position in the parliament some months later (October 2014). Subsequently, the Jew Volodymyr Groysman (14 April 2016) became Prime Minister and the Jew Volodymyr Zelensky (20 May 2019) became President. So much for the fable of neo-Nazi’s taking over Ukraine in a right-wing coup. The neo-Nazis just provided a smoke screen for the Jew takeover.
The Ukraine gambit appears to be an attempt to replay the second world war.
1933: We have a Jew takeover of Germany disguised as a Nazi takeover.
The takeover occurred when the Jew Hitler assumed dictatorial powers.
Leads to war against the Soviet Union.
2014: We have a Jew takeover of Ukraine disguised as a neo-Nazi takeover.
The takeover is already complete (except in the east).
Leads to war against Russia.
Seeing that many of the politicians in “neo-Nazi” Ukraine are Jews, or of Jewish descent, I wondered if the same may have been true in Nazi Germany. So, I checked the surnames of a large number of people from the Nazi era. What I found is truly amazing. Note that all surnames designated Jewish can be found in books (listed below) on Jewish Genealogy.
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname].
Below is a list of Nazi Field Marshalls.
Looks like they were all of Jewish descent.
Fedor von Bock [Jew surname].
Werner von Blomberg [Jew surname].
Walther von Brauchitsch = Brauch-itsch [Jew surname-son of]
Ernst von Busch [Jew surname].
Hermann Göring = Gör-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb [variant of Jew surname Lieb?]
Wilhelm Keitel [Jew surname].
Albert Kesselring = Kessel-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Ewald von Kleist [Jew surname].
Gunther von Kluge [Jew surname].
Georg von Küchler [Jew surname].
Wilhelm List [Jew surname].
Erich von Manstein [Jew surname]. Born Lewinski [Jew surname].
Erhard Milch [Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Walther Model [Jew surname].
Friedrich von Paulus [variant of the Jew surname Paul?]
Walther von Reichenau = Reiche-Nau = [Jew surname-Jew surname]
Erwin Rommel [variant of Jew names Frommel and Trommel?]
Gerd von Rundstedt = Rund-stedt [Jew surname-town]
Ferdinand Schörner [variant of the Jew surname Tschorne?]
Hugo Sperrle = Sperr-le = [Jew surname-common suffix] Luftwaffe.
Erwin von Witzleben [variant of Witzler-ben? Jew surname-son of]
Those of Jewish descent in Hitler’s life (non-military).
Martin Bormann [Jew surname]. Hitler’s private secretary. Money man.
Eva Braun [Jew surname]. Hitler’s mistress and wife.
Hans Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s lawyer.
Ulrich Graf [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal companion 1920-1923.
Gertrud Junge [Jew surname] nee Gertrud Humps. Hitler’s private secretary.
Theodor Morell [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Karl Brandt [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Albert Speer [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal architect and city planner.
Fritz Wiedemann [Jew surname]. Personal adjutant to Hitler.
Julius Schreck [Jew surname]. Hitler’s chauffeur.
Karl von Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s genealogist.
Hugo Blaschke [Jew surname]. Hitler’s dentist.
Hugo Erlanger [Jew surname]. Hitler’s landlord for ten years.
Some others.
Adolf Eichmann [Jew surname]. Head of the Scientific Museum for Jewish Affairs.
Rudolf Hess [Jew surname]. Deputy to the Fuehrer.
Heinrich Himmler [Jew surname]. Leading National Socialist politician.
Alfred Rosenberg [Jew surname]. Leading proponent of National Socialist ideology.
Julius Streicher [Jew surname]. National Socialist politician.
Wilhelm Messerschmitt [Jew surname]. Aircraft designer and manufacturer.
Hjalmar Schacht [Jew surname]. Financier, president of the Reichsbank.
Joseph Goebbels [variant of the Jew surname Göbel?] National Socialist politician and propagandist.
Reinhard Heydrich = Heyd-Rich [Jew surname-Jew surname] Administrator of the concentration camps.
Here is a list of Nazi Chiefs of General Staff.
They were probably all of Jewish descent.
Heinz Guderian [Jew surname]. Chief of General Staff Jul 1944 to Mar 1945
Adolf Heusinger [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jun 1944 to Jul 1944
Kurt Zeitzler [variant of the Jew name Weitzler?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1942 to Jul 1944
Franz Halder [variant of the Jew name Halde?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1938 to Sep 1942
Ludwig Beck [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jul 1935 to Aug 1938
Various leaders.
იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი [variant of the Jew name ჯუდაშვილი] (Joseph Stalin) General Secretary of the Soviet Union; ჯუდაშვილი translated means “son of Judah”.
Mikhail Gorbachev [variant of the Jew name Gorbaczyński?] President of the Soviet Union
Boris Yeltsin [variant of the Jew name Peltson?] President of Russia
Vladimir Putin [variant of the Jew names Jutin Kutin Mutin Rutin Yutin?] President of Russia [Владимир Путин]
Angela Merkel [Jew surname] nee Kasner [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Olaf Sholtz [variant of the Jew name Shultz?] Chancellor of Germany
Friedrich Merz [Jew surname] German politician (Head of CDU)
Annalena Baerbock Baer-Bock [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Franklin Roosevelt [variant of the Jew name Rosenfelt] President USA
George Bush [variant of the Jew name Busch?] President USA
Donald Trump [variant of the Jew name Trumpf?] President USA
Stepan Bandera [variant of the Jew surname Bander?] Ukrainian Nationalist
Volodymyr Zelensky [Jew surname] President of Ukraine
Volodymyr Groysman [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Denys Shmigal [variant of the Jew name Schmigelski] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Vitali Klitschko [variant of the Jew name Klitsch?] Mayor of Kiev
Lech Kaczyński [Jew surname] President of Poland
Jarosław Kaczyński [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Poland
Mateusz Morawiecki [variant of the Jew names Morawiec Morawietz etc?] Prime Minister of Poland
Pedro Sanchez [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Spain
Mark Rutte [Jew surname] Dutch Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni [variant of the Jew name Melon?] Italian Prime Minister
Kaja Kallas [variant of the Jew names Khallas Callas Challas?] Prime Minister of Estonia
Petr Pavel [Jew surname] Czech President; Chief of the NATO Military Committee
Klaus Johannis [Jew surname] President of Romania
Jaap Scheffer [Jew surname] NATO Secretary General 2004-2009
Jens Stoltenberg [variant of the Jew name Stoltzenberg?] NATO Secretary General 2014-
Charles Michel [Jew surname] European Council President
Ursula von der Leyen [Jew surname] nee Albrecht [Jew surname] President of the European Commission
This link provides a list of Jewish surnames taken from the following books:
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames by Lars Menk
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Italy, France and “Portuguese” Communities by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Maghreb, Gibraltar, and Malta by Alexander Beider
The Jacobi Papers: Genealogical Studies of Leading Ashkenazi Families by Paul Jacobi & Emanuel Elyasaf
Posted by: choose | Dec 29 2024 0:48 utc | 100