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December 25, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-309

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Hazelnuts to England? And what happens then? And after that? You can’t think that far ahead!?
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 25 2024 23:49 utc | 105

Before it happened nobody here thought NATO-supplied and controlled missiles could or would ever fly into pre-war Russia.

After approval from the administration of President Joe Biden, Ukraine struck Russia with six U.S.-made ATACMS on Nov. 19 and with British Storm Shadow missiles and U.S.-made HIMARS on Nov. 21. —Reuters, 2024-Dec-11

The Oreshnik saw its first confirmed operational use on 21 November 2024, during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The missile was employed in an attack on Ukraine’s PA Pivdenmash facility in Dnipro. —Wiki

And?

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said that “decision-making centers” in Ukraine’s capital Kyiv may become targets for future Russian attacks, as he addressed a summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). —Anadolu, 2024-Nov-28

There. In “Kyiv”! So NATO can remain overconfident that Russia will restrain itself from escalating onto NATO territory while NATO unflinchingly keeps on poking the bear and killing Russians at its discretion, vindicating all NATO pundits calling Putin’s bluffs, counting on Putin not calling NATO’s bluffs.
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Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 0:16 utc | 115

Noted.
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Biden’s proxy war. It is, after all, his war, not Putin’s.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 25 2024 23:47 utc | 104

Awww, thanks for the flowers! Get your historic facts straight first, starting way before Biden taking office. Mearsheimer is a good starting point.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 26 2024 0:25 utc | 101

My warning to Russia way back in 2014.
Russian’s lack of rearmament
5/2014.
I have been saying for a long time that rearmament programme of Russia till 2020 is too slow and that anglos will strike before that to dismantle Russia. not only that, russia herself has been too weakling and accommodating to west so much that it betrayed her potential allies in Iran, Syria and Libya to please her anglo enemies. Those allies would have occupied russia’s enemies while Rus rearms herself-but no, the idiot lavrov the foreign minster being a weakling and possible western stooge has been too considerate to the western enemies of Rus.
Even in Syria what has Russ done except disarming her ally Syria of her chemical weapons/ the usa still arms the terrorists while rus has not even given –s300 to Syria let alone s-400. This shows the attitude of Rus who does not like to be respected but simply loved by the anglos enemies who has been out to destroy that country by any means for last 200 years.
World wars first and second was plotted and started by the English to destroy both Russ and Germany and this world war 3 has been running since Iraq war in 2003 –only the victims Russia, china and India does not know about it..
4TH June, 2007.
President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia must target england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how Germany wes vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
in fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM against Russia. BBc spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation. In other word accept fraudulent win of bush for the sake of england ! “
-such is the evil propaganda of British spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards.
It is no use targeting Poland -target the main villain which is england and the english nation which must be stopped now.

Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:26 utc | 102

There was plenty of warning to Russia about treacherous Lavrov a British agent who singularly revived NATO by sanctioning Libya .
Lavrov
/4/2014
What it is that lavrov is smoking ? Must be very potent hallucinogen. He still talks of negotiation with Ukraine junta after Odessa atrocities by the Zionist and fascists goons? Thereby giving legitimacy to the kieve junta despite all crimes?
The east ukraininas shouldn’t wait for russian help because Rus leadership is sold out and feel satisfied as junior member of west with a few crumbs under the table- (though even then Russia will get nothing –remember 90s ?) .

Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:28 utc | 103

Putin is master of converting almost won war into a quagmire .
the Syrian Arab Army was on a roll and ready to take back Idlib but were stopped by Putin to appease Anglos
Moreover in the February of 2916 Syrian army was on verge of big victory but then Russian ambassador to UNO Mr Churchin said harsh words about president Assad pressing him for ceasefire. That traitor churchin was man of foreign minister Lavrov the traitor. Then Lavrov started calling Assad names then Putin announced falsely that mission is accomplished and that russian job is finished so in this way Putin stopped win of Syria just to please anglosaxons in the same way he had stopped massacre of British mercenaries in the enclave of Debalso in Donbass in Feb 2015.
Putin today is getting return of his treachery to his allies .
In the same way that sergie Lavrov pressurised then Russian president Medvedev to backstab president Gaddafi and leave Libya to be sanctioned and destroyed by Anglo pirates. This way Lavrov dog singularly resuscitated the then moribund NATO

Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 104

Now, if I am correct and judgment is real …
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 0:15 utc | 114
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Pascal’s wager works both ways; it is cute but meaningless. Happy Winter Solstice, Love Donbass. 🙂

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 105

@ Nervous German | Dec 26 2024 0:25 utc | 118
That’s a lot of assumptions used as facts to set up more assumptions there. You should work for the State Department.

Posted by: boneless | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 106

Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:24 utc | 117
Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 26 2024 0:25 utc | 118
Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:26 utc | 119
Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:28 utc | 120
Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 121
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Oh my goodness, MoA is under a full-fledged attack by the flea flicker troll brigade. I surrender, I surrender!

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 0:41 utc | 107

Andrei Martynov observes that the Azerbaijan Airliner downing was definitely a terrorist act, as was the sinking of Ursa Major, apparently via submarine?

It is too early to speculate on who could have done it, but Ursa Major is a large vessel and what is described sounds like torpedo attack at the screw-rudder group (винто-рулевая группа). We still have to wait for information though.

http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/12/ursa-major-was-sunk.html

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 26 2024 0:43 utc | 108

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 122
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Ed, my dear friend, happy “whatever” to you too. ❤️
I’d be more specific but I have no idea what it is that nihilists celebrate.
Regardless, be safe and well.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 0:50 utc | 109

******** Ed@111
“Trump just said he wants Greenland, obviously to balance Russia….”
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Did Trump just make Greenland part of the Ukraine negotiations?
Not so much regarding Russian goals but European objectives. He’s position to the EU would be get me Greenland, I’ll give alot of money and as much of Western Ukraine as you can stomach.
The US really doesn’t gain much from its Ukraine war investment. Odessa’s intetedting, but really who cares from the US perspective.
The Europees on the other hand want somethings from the Ukraine settlement that they can only get with US support.
Greenland is a multi-D approach from a negotiating stand point for Trump, who could easily play the Europees for Greenland.
What’s that green cocktail called?
Ahh! Yes,Grasshopper.

Posted by: Jerr | Dec 26 2024 0:51 utc | 110

Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 121
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Sam, do you realize that you have accused Russia, Putin, Lavrov, and others of every crime that the US and Israel have committed in the ME? Where do you get this shit from, the State Department? Perhaps Neo-Con News maybe?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 0:53 utc | 111

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 25 2024 21:43 utc | 69
Posted by: Sam | Dec 26 2024 0:30 utc | 121
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 0:33 utc | 124
Since the 3 of you are triplets, typing the same sheet, page after page, why not, if your johnny is long enough, rush off to the bathroom and go eff yourself.
Russia tried to play nice with the neighborhood bullies, allowed the stripping of national assets to the Chosen (financed by the Chosen’s personal Casinos, WallStreet and the U.S. Treasury).
Finally Russia had enough Yankee Trader bull excrement, gave a few warnings, tried to make deals that were always broken.
Now you crybabies, living on Welfare and tomorrow’s Debt think big words, and long diatribes, conjecture and grunting noises are going to bolster your losing position.
Your Brownshirt, Brown Betty strokers in Ukeland are going to need more real stuff, not your warm throat and bottom exhaust. So move to Ukeland and help out.
FWIW, the U.S. Fed has erased $2 TRILLION in liquidity by striking off U.S. Dollars. Figure out what that means. Also U.S. DEBT growth in 2024 barely matches the (coincidentally) +/- $2 trillion in relative GDP growth. Interest is increasing exponentially, now exceeding the U.S. Offense Budget.
And our new crazy (different flavor of nutty ice cream) Trump tells you in his first book to gain more working hours by sleeping less. He doesn’t quite get to “don’t sleep at all” to become infinitely productive. So…sleep deprivation, if you carefully watch him, is what is making those invade Panama, seize Greenland and do the Anschluss on Canada, grunting noises.
Oh and Merry Christmas to your programmers.
ps If China was into making deals, I suggest the party that has a history of keeping their word and written word, is the better choice.

Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2024 1:02 utc | 112

Posted by: Jerr | Dec 26 2024 0:51 utc | 129
*Did Trump just make Greenland part of the Ukraine negotiations?
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I don’t know, but does the President of Russia have the authority to give Greenland to the US?
Ed.
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*The US really doesn’t gain much from its Ukraine war investment.
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Senator Lady Graham said that there was about $12 trillion dollars worth of minerals underground in the Donbas.
Ed.
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*The Europees on the other hand want somethings from the Ukraine settlement that they can only get with US support.
Greenland is a multi-D approach from a negotiating stand point for Trump, who could easily play the Europees for Greenland.
What’s that green cocktail called? Ahh! Yes,Grasshopper.
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Again, what the fuck does that got to do with Russia?
Ed.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 1:10 utc | 113

Another MH-17???????
Also. I remember a Russian plane down on Dec25 … with a famous choir, Alexandrov Ensemble, on board. Leaving Sochi for Syria.
Rerunning the scripts?
This guy is quick with a yt presentation proofing Russia shot it down.
He … works super fast on compiling an upload, …. Lots of info assembled fast. Hmmm.
NAFO quick to blame Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQEghJ8UVWk
…> “Azerbaijan E190 Crash | It was shot down over Russia and Crash landed in Aktau Kazahstan”
Sitting in his mom’s basement….. He knows more than the crash investigators.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 26 2024 1:11 utc | 114

“…until the elections, then the anger of the voters will come to the fore.”
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 1:09 utc | 132
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It already has, and it is only going to get worse.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 1:13 utc | 115

Re: the plane crash
The final moments of the Azerbaijan Airlines plane before its crash in Kazakhstan were captured by a passenger onboard.
Aftermath also included in the footage.
Link below.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1871902804350308412
The man who recorded the video survived
https://x.com/itsDivasChoice/status/1872012009707053386

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 1:15 utc | 116

The man who recorded the video survived
https://x.com/itsDivasChoice/status/1872012009707053386
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 1:15 utc | 137
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Ali Akbar indeed!

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 1:22 utc | 117

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 26 2024 0:43 utc | 126
Ukraine doesn’t possess any submarines to my knowledge, so any evidence of a torpedo strike (I assume the Russians are searching for the sunken vessel) would be a clear act of war from the West. I guess they could concoct a tail of ingenious Ukrainians weaponising a commercial sub, with the help of iPads and games controllers, but that would strain credulity. If it is sabotage I expect it will be either a mine attached whilst in port, or a maritime drone strike, possibly wake homing or a rear aspect attack, after trailing the vessel.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 26 2024 1:28 utc | 118

Another Baltic Sea cable mysteriously breaks down
The undersea connection delivering electricity from Finland to Estonia has suffered an outage
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 1:24 utc | 139
This is as a response to their own terrorist attacks on Russian assets like the Nordstream and the shadow fleet. THERE WILL BE MORE OF THIS. Expect to see more Mysterious sinkings of oil tankers bound for NATO countries, cables cut and destroyed.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 1:32 utc | 119

Now that it’s open season on commercial shipping in the global oceans, insurance premia will rise to an extent commensurate with the threat of routinely losing vessels in a hostile marine environment. For that and myriad other reasons both cumulative and emergent, expect inflation to make a savage comeback in late 2025, and everyone’s cost of living to rise accordingly. The inflation will show up in COGS first, and then, like clockwork, it will come home to roost in the expenditures of the ordinary end consumer. But first be prepared for the consequences of the horrific false-flag attack on a major European city in the next 3-4 weeks.

Posted by: Matthew | Dec 26 2024 1:34 utc | 120

**Wp007 @132, “It’s energy”
**Ed @132 “what does this have to do with Russia”
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Russia cannot influence a sale of Greenland to the USA. Only the Europees do that.
The Europees care an cheap Russian energy, but they passed in their golden goose nest on that one.
Trump has pretty much conceded on the occupied Ukrainian territories and would much rather develop and sell their own.
What does Russian want ” longterm security” and the only actor in this game that can provide that to them is the good ol’USofA.
Security is the Trump suit and Trump’s long suit, for the Ukraine negotiations. He can make NATO bases relocate back west outside the old Warsaw Pact Borders,and get bases and ships out of the Black Sea. He can setup the conditions so Europees and Russian can make nice and nice money on energy sales. Create conditions for Polish Hungarian, Slovakia and Romanian annexation of parts of Western Ukraine they want. He could provide the assurances and conditions to make Odessa Oblast autonomous, but under Russian foreign policy and military control but open only for Russians and Ukrainians to be residence. Just a start of what could happen.
Trump just wants to make sure he has a longterm supply of ice for his cocktails.

Posted by: Jerr008 | Dec 26 2024 1:38 utc | 121

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 0:50 utc | 128
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Thank you for your response. Happy Holidays works well for me.
I hope you and your family are safe and well, too.
Note: Atheism Is Not Nihilism?
Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods, while nihilism believes that life has no inherent meaning. Nihilism is a philosophical position that some atheists may adopt, but it is not a necessary consequence of atheism. Atheists can, and I do believe in objective truths, morality, and values without believing in God; I think they are inherent to humans.
Atheists may also find meaning in their lives through family, friends, and good deeds. Nihilists, on the other hand, believe that life is ultimately pointless. They may find temporary happiness in things, but eventually, they will see that they are meaningless.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 1:42 utc | 122

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 1:31 utc | 141
Posted by: Milites | Dec 26 2024 1:28 utc | 140
‘or a maritime drone strike, possibly wake homing or a rear aspect attack, after trailing the vessel.’
Because Ukraine cannot affect any naval targets that are operationally significant they’ve probably decided to loosely interpret the strategic level to include any economic target. As a result of this all Russian maritime vessels, certainly those of strategic economic value) are probably going to have to adopt anti-saboteur drills, whilst in port and anti-drone drills whilst in transit, similar to the anti-piracy drills practiced by Western commercial shipping companies.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 26 2024 1:44 utc | 123

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 0:50 utc | 128

I’d be more specific but I have no idea what it is that nihilists celebrate.
Regardless, be safe and well.

Psst! Have you read the last chapter of the Old Testament?
Nationalist Zionists (using religion) are far more nihilistic than atheists.
I’d claim that having only ONE life means that you don’t abuse it (nor the life of others) as there isn’t any reward (for “converting” others [and failing that, killing them]).
I see NO power center/ideology that can amply claim to not hold death cards. And, well, everyone is proclaiming to know THE “truth” and we know the affects of human hubris.
Silly humans, thinking that they can actually KNOW “God” (and to do so through the interpretations of past fallible human minds). Human hubris…
“God” is a concept of striving for the best “Good.” Period. End of story. Nothing wrong with that and no one should really feel a problem with that. As to the other baggage that is attached to “God,” well, human hubris…
And a Merry Christmas to all!

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 1:59 utc | 124

This is as a response to their own terrorist attacks on Russian assets like the Nordstream and the shadow fleet. THERE WILL BE MORE OF THIS. Expect to see more Mysterious sinkings of oil tankers bound for NATO countries, cables cut and destroyed.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 1:32 utc | 142
Agreed hermis. The west have brought it on themselves. Sabotage by russian operatives, across the world, will increase. If that is the way the west wants to play it, then so be it.

Posted by: Jesper from London | Dec 26 2024 2:16 utc | 125

On the topic of Russian responses to NATO weapons being fired from Ukraine into Russia:
The Ukrainian people are Russia’s primary enemy. In order to de-militarize Ukraine, de-nazify Ukraine, and render Ukraine eternally neutral, the Russians must make the Ukrainian people suffer for the actions of their government and for the attacks launched by NATO from Ukraine. This takes time, but there will come a point when Ukrainian people, enraged by the suffering their government and NATO have brought to them and their families, will become radicalized against the U.S., its installed government, and NATO. When that happens, Ukrainian troops, security forces, and average civilians will begin hunting and killing NATO personnel in Ukraine. ATACMs launchers will be burned and the crews killed. In Afghanistan, “friendly” local soldiers would, from time to time, begin shooting U.S. soldiers in dinning halls or out on training grounds. As the Ukrainian population fills with rage at NATO using their country as a proxy, they will begin imitating the Afghans.
The final point will come when Zelensky and other senior government and military personnel desperately flee Ukraine with dollars stuffed in suitcases. NATO cargo aircraft and helicopters will be frantically flying in and out of Ukraine rescuing any remaining NATO military still in the country. The visceral hatred of the average Ukrainian for NATO’s intransigence regarding negotiating with the Russians will boil over for generations. They will remember Putin offering to negotiate. They will remember Boris Johnson’s undermining the April 2022 peace deal. They will think of the hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainian soldiers, all those fathers, brothers and sons killed by Zelensky’s and Biden’s refusal to deal with the Russians who stood there.with their hand out offering to negotiate. The Ukrainians won’t see the Russians as weak, but as good and decent, forced to reluctantly react to the actions of the evil NATO. The Ukrainian people will hunt down AZOV members. They will best SBU informants in the streets and hang them from lightposts.
Then the Russians will come in and rebuild Ukraine and the Ukrainians will hate Europe and the United States. They will wonder how they ever allowed the U.S. and NATO to drive them to disaster and they will look at Russia as a savior.
That is why the Russians act and talk like they do.
There is still some distance to go for the Russians, but the growing attacks on mobilization personnel, police stations, etc., combined with the small but open anti-war protests are just the initial small lapping of the anti-NATO, anti-U.S., anti-AZOV, ant-Zelensky tsunami growing just under the surface.
The CIA/MI-6 trolls know it; the globalists behind the people behind the war know it; and it is scaring the shit out of them.
As for me, I take no pleasure in any of this. I am merely observing what has obviously been the Russian’s strategy since April 2022.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 26 2024 2:17 utc | 126

This is as a response to their own terrorist attacks on Russian assets like the Nordstream and the shadow fleet. THERE WILL BE MORE OF THIS. Expect to see more Mysterious sinkings of oil tankers bound for NATO countries, cables cut and destroyed.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 1:32 utc | 142
The vessel in the mediteranean is significant as it represents an attack on russia in an area not involved or connected to the conflict in ukraine.

Posted by: Fyador | Dec 26 2024 2:19 utc | 127

@ HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 1:32 utc | 142
The sea lanes and trading routes are being weaponised.

Posted by: The Flying Scotsman | Dec 26 2024 2:23 utc | 128

This is as a response to their own terrorist attacks on Russian assets like the Nordstream and the shadow fleet. THERE WILL BE MORE OF THIS. Expect to see more Mysterious sinkings of oil tankers bound for NATO countries, cables cut and destroyed.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 1:32 utc | 142
Oh dear…😕…this sounds very depressing. Tankers and the likes being targeted by Russia or i presume its sab groups…😕…but if its the only way the nato can be stopped the better

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Dec 26 2024 2:27 utc | 129

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 2:11 utc | 149
I’ll take that!

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 2:27 utc | 130

Thanks for the comments.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2024 2:31 utc | 131

Trump will pressure China to pressure Russia. Trump will pressure India, Brazil and everybody else to pressure Russia.
Trump will do more Trump things, and the way you put it, Putin would happily fetch the bone Trump throws at him and agree to freeze the conflict, so that after some time of rebuilding and rearming another UAF army we’ll be back to where we are today, save for not another surprise safari into pre-war Russia, i.e. Bryansk. Now this has to be what Russian soldiers are fighting for!
Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 25 2024 22:59 utc | 88

Trump the dealmaker believes that everyone has a price and is afraid of him, crude tactics of a used car salesman. In his first presidency the Republican establishment played him. They strung him along with building his big beautiful wall, and used him while they implemented their own agenda. Putin and Xi will play him for a fool too. Stroke his ego whilst hiding the pea under the cup he never spots. His bullying tactics may have some leverage on smaller countries, but Putin and Xi know his moves.

Posted by: Mike R | Dec 26 2024 2:37 utc | 132

Russian estimates say that about 25% are fascists.
So the aim is to somehow neutralize these 25%.
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 2:26 utc | 154
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Not surprising, but a HUGE percentage. We’re talking about sub-humans, animals, a herd, that is, they do get organized. Russia had to kill them, Zelensky and all.

Posted by: burak | Dec 26 2024 2:53 utc | 133

(1) I see no power center or ideology that can amply claim not to hold death cards. And, well, everyone is proclaiming to know THE “truth,” and we know the effects of human hubris.
(2) Silly humans think that they can actually KNOW “God” (and to do so through the interpretations of past fallible human minds). Human hubris…
Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 1:59 utc | 147
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Forgive me, but I cleaned up your sentence.
(1) Atheists do not (or should not) claim to “know” the truth about God; we only say that the evidence is not sufficient to prove that a God or Gods exist. I, for one, could change my mind if such evidence should come forward.
(2) If silly humans can not know God, then how can they know God exists? Supernatural claims require a high level of evidence; when you have it, we can talk smack.
Happy Holidays,

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:04 utc | 134

The world is dividing up into two political camps. That makes it a lot tougher for Trump to get a good outcome playing the bully boy because a lot of countries have a viable alternative. If it isn’t done carefully we are more apt to drive other countries away than to get a greater degree of compliance.
Of all the goofy things we have been threatening China. That largely compels China to stay with Russia because they can reasonably expect that they will be next when the Ukraine thing settles out. China is going to want Russia at their back in a good way. Plus from the economic standpoint the two countries are a good fit. Apparently, to be part of the leadership of the political West, you are required to take make you stupid pills.

Posted by: Jmaas | Dec 26 2024 3:06 utc | 135

I don’t like your choice of words, it’s fascist language. It doesn’t make you any better or different.
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 3:00 utc | 160
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Fascists are a special breed of human, like zombies; decent people can’t live with them because once they get organized, they will eat you for breakfast. Perhaps you should read something about WW2.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:09 utc | 136

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 1:42 utc | 145
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My dear Ed, if you’re not a nihilist then that means that you believe in something.
My heart is gladdened to learn this.
Progress. Progress indeed.
Btw, it’s Allahu Akbar.
“God is greater than everything.”
The Christians have no such similar sentiment as “takbir“, which every Muslim states 5 times minimum every day of their adult lives.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 3:11 utc | 137

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 26 2024 2:17 utc | 151
Well stated. Feel the first evidence of this will be seen in Odessa liberation. The local partisans will be hunting down nato and ukie forces. The remaining ukie forces likely to flee or switch sides

Posted by: Michael J | Dec 26 2024 3:13 utc | 138

By the way, wp007, people aren’t born fascists; they are trained to think that away.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:14 utc | 139

rk@54…..so if a person uses logic and common sense to predict a future trend they are a troll. Anyone with zero knowledge of how the Imperial British Empire works is a…… Enough with the name calling, I didn’t predict anything, Russia is dealing with the Brits, they haven’t a clue what their partners, their friends have in store.
Unless Russia has some hmm, cure for the Whitehall Itch, more Ukies will die unnecessarily……and more Russian Ships, Planes, Trains and Automobiles will have unfortunate deadly accidents…..world wide. See: Brits, above.
Cheers M
Britkrainia has free hand to attack or steal Russian assets and Russians anywhere, anytime all over the planet. They will train proxies, already are in Africa to combat Russian PMUs. Anywhere Russia goes FUKUS will be there. Well except 404, Russia has that under control …kinda.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 26 2024 3:15 utc | 140

Ukraine and Moldova may have been given the go ahead to make a move on Transnistria.
Posted by: Suresh | Dec 25 2024 20:52 utc | 59
Then it is game on. Same situation as on the beginning of smo

Posted by: Michael J | Dec 26 2024 3:17 utc | 141

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:04 utc | 161
My way of thinking about it is to suppose there is a god space. That space is the part of the world that we live in that we believe is being directed in some way by a divine entity. The effect of the expansion of knowledge based on scientific enquiry has been to reduce the god space. Most people no longer think it takes a god to make it rain or for water to run down hill. Few farmers have a priest bless the seeds they plant. And so on. Currently for me the god space has gotten kind of small.

Posted by: Jmaas | Dec 26 2024 3:18 utc | 142

Our Christmas in the West isn’t Russia’s as most know. It’s just another day in most of the world. “Lavrov’s Western Christmas Interview by Russia’s 60 Minutes News Show,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/lavrovs-western-christmas-interview

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2024 3:19 utc | 143

@ Jianso | Dec 25 2024 21:01 utc | 61
Lovely example of a lurker speaking up nicely❤️
Best wishes to you on your projected relocation💎
I’m in Canada. Different curve, but same shit💩

Posted by: Featherless | Dec 26 2024 3:24 utc | 144

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 1:59 utc | 147
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My new friend, I invite you to read the Glorious Quran, rather than relying on a Bible that was written by men based on second hand accounts.
In Islam “hadith” (sayings of the Prophet, PBUH) are treated as a science.
Every Muslim who has memorized the Quran can trace their recitation back 1400 or so years ago to the first written compilation of the Quran, which to that point had entirely been an oral tradition. No one could alter it because everyone identifying as a Muslim in Abyssinia and West Asia knew it by heart.
Millions of Muslims today have memorized the Quran all over the world. Born Muslims, people who have “reverted”, even Japanese Muslims.
While I am sure some exist, the notion of Christians memorizing the Bible (which one?) is not a thing.
What people in the West think is monotheism is much more structured and rigorous in Islam than anything they will have likely experienced in their lives. One would expect a Creator of everything to have a structured manual for living and understanding why everything was created, and for what purpose.
I didn’t read the Quran to prove or disprove it. I read it because every honest thinker is seeking truth, and that cannot be accomplished by observing cultural biases or indulging personal ignorance.
That is actually the same reason that I read Mein K@mpf years ago. I had to understand it for myself, and not what stupid people like that bar patron from NY does judging books by their cover or media accounts, likely from people that didn’t read the book themselves.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 3:28 utc | 145

From Zakharova’s briefing today:

Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Russian and foreign media
On December 26 at 11:00 Moscow time, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will answer questions from the Russian and foreign media on current foreign policy issues and the current international agenda.
I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this is not a replacement for Sergey Lavrov’s final news conference, which is usually held in January (we will inform you about it separately). It’s just such a format. We received a lot of questions and at the end of the year I want to place the appropriate accents.
Traditionally, the broadcast will also be carried out on the Foreign Ministry’s official resources – on the Foreign Ministry’s website and social media accounts with simultaneous translation into English, French and Spanish. Connect. See. A number of Russian media will broadcast this interview on their platforms.
By the way, one curious detail. In preparing for the interview, we invited various media outlets, including one of the German ones, to take part in it. However, they did not give an answer immediately. They said that they needed to consult with Berlin (with their editorial board or with some other German “structures”). A day later, they replied that the leadership of this German media outlet had banned its correspondent in Moscow from participating in an interactive conversation with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. What do you think was the reason? It was invented simply amazing – the “Christmas agenda”. This German channel, which covers international issues, turns out to have no questions about international relations now. Allegedly, everything is dedicated to the holidays. And this is despite the fact that the communication itself from the point of view of Catholic Christmas is supposed to take place already on the post-holiday day. This does not mean that the day can be non-working. The German press is not only not interested in first-hand news from Russia and officials of our country, but they are simply blocked.
Until recently, in Berlin, German journalists, the German Union of Journalists, and the country’s authorities were hysterical about the revocation of the accreditation of one German journalist. Let me remind you that the Russian side revoked the accreditation of this journalist in response to the fact that similar measures were taken against the Russian correspondents of Channel One. Traditionally, they turned everything upside down and began to talk not about Moscow’s-for-tat measures, but about the fact that Russia is allegedly behaving aggressively towards German journalists. It is surprising that when mirror measures were taken against this journalist, the German officialdom launched the thesis that Moscow allegedly “hinders the work of the German free press.” How does Moscow hinder the work of German journalists, if it is their editorial offices that prohibit their journalists from carrying out their direct functional duties and working on the territory of our country? Where is the freedom of the German press? Where is the independence of German journalists if they are forbidden to do their job?
In this regard, an applied question arises: if an interview with the head of the foreign ministry of the country of accreditation is not a significant reason for the German media, then what are these journalists doing in Russia at all? Against the backdrop of such a surprising development for the uninitiated and natural for people following the situation, no one in Germany has any right to accuse us of allegedly restricting the activities of German journalists in Russia.
This is an example of how the activities of a German journalist in Russia were limited to the editorial board of a German media outlet. Whether it was her decision or it was imposed by the German Foreign Ministry or the German special services – let them figure it out for themselves. We have a specific fact: under the pretext of the “Christmas agenda”, the editorial office banned a German journalist in Moscow from taking part in a news conference by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. I am referring to the self-censorship of the German media and the self-ban on German journalists from participating in real, live, non-fictional media events in the format of direct communication. This is an example of restricting freedom of speech. This suggests that German journalists are not allowed to take part in such events and hear the truth at all.

Yet another example of Liberal Totalitarianism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2024 3:30 utc | 146

Posted by: Jmaas | Dec 26 2024 3:06 utc | 162
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Karlof1 has detailed in several of his own articles on his Substack how Putin and Xi share a common vision for international relations and the human race.
This was a recent one.
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/forming-the-new-multipolar-political
The Yankees are screwed if they think that Putin and Xi can easily be separated at this point.
Every day through Chinese Twitter accounts I continue to read how the two countries are integrating culturally.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 3:37 utc | 147

@burak
… We’re talking about sub-humans, animals …
I don’t like your choice of words, it’s fascist language. It doesn’t make you any better or different.
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 3:00 utc | 160
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Maybe you wouldn’t like if I use the same language for Hitler, the Nazis, Netanyahu et al … or all the rabid rats butchering, torturing humans, even children just because they do not belong to their herd, having a different “identity”? Perhaps you haven’t spent your life under these rats. Perhaps you haven’t read what their heros (Bandera et al) have done and you’re ignorant of what they’ve done now.
Your dislike means nothing.

Posted by: burak | Dec 26 2024 3:41 utc | 148

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 3:20 utc | 171
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God of the gaps. Find an area where science has questions (and there are many) and stuff God into it. The Catholic Church has had to apologize many times for using that method. Of course, that is little consolation for all the victims who challenged “Catholic science.”

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:42 utc | 149

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 3:28 utc | 173
Let’s put it this way: I’m perfectly fine, thank you very much! And I am happy with all others who are also “perfectly fine.” What works (for the good) in another’s mind is none of my business (it’s not my place to dictate what others should believe, just as it is of no place for others to dictate what I should believe).
Peace and do good! (I’ve always appreciated your posts.)

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 3:44 utc | 150

@karlof1
Thanks for a little Maria. So many back to the Halls of Consumerism for the Boxing Day sales. Me? I appreciate the simpler things, like a little acerbic Maria on a hot sunny arvo.
Once again, a post in appreciation of what you share here and on your substack.
2025! The “interesting times” in which we live, do seem to accelerate in “interest”…
Cheers.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 26 2024 3:45 utc | 151

Southfront has an article about a father killed by ukie recruiters in Odesss who was trying to prevent his son being forcibly taken away. Feel Odessans will be screaming silently with pure rage and intent for revenge built up over decades. They could go berserk at the first sign of liberation. Believe arms have been freely distributed in the beginning. So that won’t be a problem. Feel it will be pure slaughter, magnitude which we have never seen and rivers of blood will flow. Who can stand in front of river of blood surging nato,mercenary, ukie forces?

Posted by: Michael J | Dec 26 2024 3:45 utc | 152

Regarding what Trump admin will or won’t do, Russia, China and Iran basically (and especially jointly) hold all the cards. US/West is in decline, resources are dwindling: that’s what Ukraine was always about- Ukraine was to be the resource injection for the decaying EU (managed by the US/Blackrock, of course).

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 3:47 utc | 153

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 26 2024 3:32 utc | 175
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So, Russia is wrong for trying to take out Banderites and other neo-Nazis in Ukraine? One of Putin’s announced goals was to de-Nazifie Ukraine. No one understands fascism like the Russians do. It has existed in Ukraine since WWll, and it is having a resurgence in many Western countries, including the USA and Russia.
I wonder what the world would look like if Hitler had obtained the Atomic Bomb first and had time to use it.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:58 utc | 154

Yes, and I really want to complain to them about the standard of trolling here
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2024 17:18 utc | 26
Only their most lowly are on roster this time of year.

Posted by: эльф | Dec 26 2024 4:04 utc | 155

Trump the dealmaker believes that everyone has a price and is afraid of him, crude tactics of a used car salesman.
Posted by: Mike R | Dec 26 2024 2:37 utc | 158
Many similarly ridiculed Ronald Regan for only being a B grade actor. And like Regan, Trump remains the frontman for a massive power bloc that is unequivocally anti-Russia, anti-China, and anti-anything that challenges its interests. While he may come across as a crude, impertinent used car salesman, he wields the backing of the world’s largest military power, with a global network of bases, naval fleets, and air assets.
He also commands the resources of the world’s largest economy, achieving this with just a quarter of China’s population, alongside the unwavering support of the Europe and the OECD—a coalition of the richest nations completely aligned with U.S. interests.
What the U.S. and Trump lack in moral authority, wisdom, and human decency, they more than compensate for with overwhelming force and influence. As yet unchallenged.

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 4:10 utc | 156

Posted by: Jmaas | Dec 26 2024 3:06 utc | 162
Karlof1 has detailed in several of his own articles on his Substack how Putin and Xi share a common vision for international relations and the human race.
This was a recent one.
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/forming-the-new-multipolar-political
I don’t disagree jmaas, but I think that both these presidents are (hopefully) concentrated on surviving the present and future aggressions on both the RF and PRC from the collective west.
I cannot see how major conflict with the rapidly degenerating west can be avoided, and failing some unanticipated major event (eg. massive widespread earthquake/ volcanic activity, or an alien invasion/s), suspect this will “come to a head” in the next 2-3 years (max).
I hope that RF, PRC,NK and Iran etc. are cooperating and preparing for this. There is much at stake since the outcome will be existential for both sides.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 26 2024 4:11 utc | 157

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 26 2024 4:11 utc | 189
Should have written -will be existential for both sides AND the future of humanity and this little planet.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 26 2024 4:18 utc | 158

What the U.S. and Trump lack in moral authority, wisdom, and human decency, they more than compensate for with overwhelming force and influence. As yet unchallenged.
Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 4:10 utc | 188

So unchallenged that they still hide behind Ukraines skirts? Nonsense. The US is a rapidly sinking ship rotted out from within by a corrupt and venal elite. The interest payments alone compel these simpletons to drive the world off a cliff.
As alternative, the subjugated population could just hang the elite in a general uprising. They better hurry up with the autonomous killing machines and other wunderwaffen, because the support shown to the killer of the insurance CEO indicates not all is well in Maerica.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 26 2024 4:26 utc | 159

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 4:10 utc | 188
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Unchallenged?
Have you never heard of the Houthi?
Trump is in for a big surprise.
He’s the top dog of a declining, bankrupt, discredited Empire
Also, Reagan was never the same after the CIA shot him.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 4:31 utc | 160

Posted by: Seer | Dec 26 2024 3:44 utc | 179
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Friend, it’s all good.
What we choose to believe or disbelieve is a matter of individual conscience.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 4:42 utc | 161

Dear Trump and Mr.Putin
Before starting a world war! Please give me time to sell off all my assets and move myself to live in the Philippines away from western trash culture, and so I may at least be sun bathing on Boracay beach enjoying the remainder of my existence and spend it on wonderful Filipinos. Please also stay away from taiwan, so we white trash can live in south Asia peacefully. Quite frankly Europe and North America is terrible for retiring.
Sincerely yours,
Mango

Posted by: Mango | Dec 26 2024 5:14 utc | 162

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 4:10 utc | 188
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Unchallenged?
Have you never heard of the Houthi?

JI: No I haven’t. Please tell me all about them.
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Trump is in for a big surprise.
He’s the top dog of a declining, bankrupt, discredited Empire

JI: So what? Your description does not change my comments above.
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Also, Reagan was never the same after the CIA shot him.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 4:31 utc | 193

JI: Your beliefs and opinions are your own. They have no influence over me or anyone, least of all Trump and the USA.

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 5:19 utc | 163

Posted by: Mango | Dec 26 2024 5:14 utc | 195
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Wealthy Westerner in the Phillippines. Those Pinay women will eat you alive.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 5:39 utc | 164

Unchallenged?
Have you never heard of the Houthi?
JI: No I haven’t. Please tell me all about them.
Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 5:19 utc | 196
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That sounds like an interesting media bubble you must be in if you don’t know who the Houthis are.
Trump worked with the Saudis to exterminate them and take their land, and after years of starvation and conflict, they beat KSA so badly that the Saudis begged for peace.
Trump cannot stop Russia, Iran, or the Houthis as they have hypersonic weapons that cannot be intercepted by American air-defense complexes.
So unless Trump has alien-derived technology, he’s going to be behind the eight ball when it comes to the Axis of Resistance.
Everyone has better tech, and increasingly, no fear of sanctions.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 5:50 utc | 165

Speaking of religion, anyone here has read John Allegro’s “The Sacred Mushroom & The Cross”?
John was an unfortunate victim of “cancel culture” before it had a name.

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 26 2024 6:27 utc | 166

That sounds like an interesting media bubble you must be in if you don’t know who the Houthis are.
Trump worked with the Saudis to exterminate them and take their land, and after years of starvation and conflict, they beat KSA so badly that the Saudis begged for peace.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 5:50 utc | 198
No sorry, I didn’t know about the KSA Trump and Houthis. What is this thing called a ‘media bubble’? I am not in any bubble I know of. And you make it sound like the USA under Trump are entirely defenseless against these Houthis and others. That cannot be right. And has nothing to do with Ukraine, does it?

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 7:02 utc | 167

Btw. Trump has said he has been speaking to the Russian but the Russian deny it … it’s not the first time Trump has lied about negotiating with Russian either.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 25 2024 15:25 utc | 8

We may soon discover that Vovan and Lexus have been impersonating Putin while “negotiating peace” with Trump. LOL.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 7:05 utc | 168

🇷🇺 Massive Russian hypersonic and ballistic missile attack across Ukraine.
This morning, Ukraine experienced a series of Russian missile and UAV strikes, leading to widespread power outages. Reports indicate significant damage to military and infrastructure facilities across multiple regions

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 25 2024 15:57 utc | 14
Source for above is the DDGeopolitics X.com feed:
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1871781152748703896
Where are the F16s?
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 25 2024 15:59 utc | 15

forget about the F16s.
Where are the Ukrainian babushkas wielding pickle-jars?

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 7:13 utc | 169

ZH has a posting up with the title
Owners Of Russian Ship Ursa Major Declare Sinking An “Act Of Terrorism”
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Reuters cites the Russian news agency RIA, which reported on Christmas Day that Oboronlogistika, the ship’s owner and a subsidiary of the Russian Defense Ministry’s military construction operations, stated that the cargo ship, named Ursa Major, had been targeted in “a terrorist act.”

Our civilization war is spreading its events

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 26 2024 7:28 utc | 170

Russia cannot influence a sale of Greenland to the USA. Only the Europees do that.
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Trump just wants to make sure he has a longterm supply of ice for his cocktails.
Posted by: Jerr008 | Dec 26 2024 1:38 utc | 144

Lady Graham from South Carolina is on record salivating about the mineral wealth under Donbass to be “lost” if US doesn’t win in Ukraine.
If US can’t have Donbass, look up mineral wealth under Greenland — all sorts of goodies waiting for extraction exploitation.
Greenland is an autonomous territory under the Danish Crown. Denmark provides defense & security.
IIRC correctly, the population of Greenland is only around 50,000 mostly Inuit-type peoples. So far, the native population has “mostly” resisted large scale development of mineral extraction (because it is so polluting — especially Rare-Earths extraction).
In Hawai’i when a few thousand natives were sitting on prime beach-front property, a tragic fire spontaneously occurred…
Aside from mineral wealth directly underneath Greenland, examine a map of claims to the Arctic Ocean floor. The US has one of the smaller Arctic slices (north of Alaska). The North Slope was drained of oil, then I thought they decided to start drilling under the ANWR (Alaska National Wildlife Refuge)… but collective-Biden probably quashed that. Trump’s advisors are probably imagining that “Azolla Event” oil is present to the north of Greenland as well.
I interpret the Greenland obsession as a desperate reach for a consolation-prize, for having lost the Donbass.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:22 utc | 171

So, Russia is wrong for trying to take out Banderites and other neo-Nazis in Ukraine?
Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2024 3:58 utc | 184
You idiots who prattle on about Nazis.
As everyone knows,… the wages of the Nazi soldiers were paid by the Jew Kolomoisky till American Jew politicians began paying them with American taxpayer money (which is the current situation).
If the Jews stopped paying them, the Nazis would simply go away.
The Nazis/Banderites have almost no power in Jew run Ukraine.
All the main politicians, including Zelensky, are Jews.
There are zero neo-Nazi politicians.

Posted by: username | Dec 26 2024 8:28 utc | 172

Putin does not understand that US politics wont change with Trump. That is why he hopes so much.
Putin’s begging for negotiations is a proof of a terrible situation in Russia. Of course, Ukro situation is even more terrible but that doesn’t help.
The west is untouched by this war. That is why they already won.

Posted by: vargas | Dec 26 2024 8:33 utc | 173

The Ukrainian people are Russia’s primary enemy.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 26 2024 2:17 utc | 151

No.
If you actually believe that statement, then you probably only started following these events 2 or 3 days ago.
If you don’t believe that statement, but are spouting CIA talking points anyway: then I have serious doubts about your moral compass.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:36 utc | 174

[Trump] His bullying tactics may have some leverage on smaller countries, but Putin and Xi know his moves.
Posted by: Mike R | Dec 26 2024 2:37 utc | 158

It’s a good thing Trump didn’t reveal all his negotiating strategies by pubishing a book about them. /s
The Art of the Deal

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:44 utc | 175

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 25 2024 21:43 utc | 69

This is the whole point of my rants, which many here might see as trolling or outright treason to the Russian High Command.

It’s just boring and repetitive: Putin should do this, Putin weak, Russia should do that, Russia weak, BRICS must do X, China must do Y, etc, ad nauseum. All of you trolls sing the same fucking song all the fucking time. Boring.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 8:44 utc | 176

Putin does not understand that US politics wont change with Trump.

Posted by: vargas | Dec 26 2024 8:33 utc | 206

Russians have explained MANY times, that who in particular becomes the US President is irrelevant to Russia (and to America), because American Foreign Policy never wavers.
Do try to keep up.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:59 utc | 177

The Ukrainian people are Russia’s primary enemy.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 26 2024 2:17 utc | 151
No.
If you actually believe that statement, then you probably only started following these events 2 or 3 days ago.
If you don’t believe that statement, but are spouting CIA talking points anyway: then I have serious doubts about your moral compass.
Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:36 utc | 207
Read Nobody Special’s entire post, not only the first sentence. It is quite good, actually. Not the post of somebody who just woke up two days ago.
Yes, the Ukrainians are the main adversary – for now. And will most likely flip to hating the Europeans and Americans in years to come.
I actually think that this point is understood in Western capitals, however dimly. It is causing at least part of the panic that seems to have gripped Western leadership lately. They are looking for a way to end the conflict without turning the Ukrainians against them for decades to come.

Posted by: Martina | Dec 26 2024 9:03 utc | 178

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 26 2024 2:17 utc | 151
You expanded briefly but substantially into topics I’ve only touched in previous comments. Well done.
Consider also the second Chechen war. From fanatic anti-Russian jihadis to loyal Russian soldiers in the span of 10 years, and while that was a war for just a small region of the North Caucasus, it lasted 2 year of intensive warfare plus 8 years of transformation and consolidation.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 9:08 utc | 179

Posted by: Martina | Dec 26 2024 9:03 utc | 211
I did read Nobody Special’s entire post. But if you start with the statement “Green is Spaghetti”, then proceed to derive Quantum Mechanics from first principles, I will still call you out for perverting reality.
Green is not Spaghetti, no matter how or why you assert that this is so. Why start a decent dissertation with a blatant untruth?

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 9:16 utc | 180

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:22 utc | 204

Lady Graham from South Carolina is on record salivating about the mineral wealth under Donbass to be “lost” if US doesn’t win in Ukraine.

Don’t take that too seriously. He was just putting lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 9:17 utc | 181

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:22 utc | 204
Lady Graham from South Carolina is on record salivating about the mineral wealth under Donbass to be “lost” if US doesn’t win in Ukraine.

Don’t take that too seriously. He was just putting lipstick on a pig.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 9:17 utc | 214

I don’t have to take it seriously. Lindsay Graham takes it seriously, and has brought this topic up several times. The Donbass is worth at least 1 Trillion dollars in mineral wealth.
It seems like 3 or 4 months ago, this site hosted a deep dive into the relative worths of the various oblasts of pre-2014 Ukraine, and the Donbass won quite handily.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 9:28 utc | 182

Aside from mineral wealth directly underneath Greenland, examine a map of claims to the Arctic Ocean floor. The US has one of the smaller Arctic slices (north of Alaska).

I interpret the Greenland obsession as a desperate reach for a consolation-prize, for having lost the Donbass.
Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 8:22 utc | 204
Look at the sheer size of Greenland, not at its minuscule population. Add in Trump now staking claims to Canada up North, and down to the Panama canal in the South. Trump is laying claims to the entirety of North America. (I guess that claim was inherently present since the inception of the United States of America, they just got bogged down trying to conquer all of it.)
I am not sure this can be considered a consolation price – if anything, it’s part of MAGA, with Greenland being low hanging fruit.
Finally the US would no longer be the third or fourth largest country in the world after Russia, Canada, and China.
Didn’t the US offer Canada help in protecting its Arctic West route during Trump’s first term? Canada politely declined. The world laughed at the US trying to muscle in on the Arctic using its entire fleet of one ice breaker. I don’t think Trump has forgotten that – and he certainly won’t forgive it.

Posted by: Martina | Dec 26 2024 9:35 utc | 183

So, how many people think it’s a coincidence that a commercial airliner flying over the Caucasus/Caspian Sea was struck by shrapnel just as Russia was conducting its December 25 massive missile attack on Ukraine?
Big oopsie.
Tupolev’s carrying missiles fly over those skies, and GPS gets jammed. That explains the huge gap on the airliner’s tracking data on Flightradar24.
The photos and videos of the fuselage damage indicate without a doubt those are penetration holes, typical of AA missiles. The are clearly visible inwards deformation on the holes and paint peeling rings around the holes.
Of course my favourite ‘military expert’ either doesn’t have the brains or expertise to see this, or worse, is deliberately deceiving his readers:
“..there is no doubt that it was a terrorist act with Azerbaijan Airlines Embraer jet.”
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/12/ursa-major-was-sunk.html
“These are holes from the elements of the explosive device on board.”
No mate, they are clearly not.
Someone is either a liar or not qualified to comment on military matters, I’m afraid that is the only thing in no doubt of right now.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Dec 26 2024 9:51 utc | 184

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 5:50 utc | 198
So, Trump’s going to play the biggest game of bluff poker ever, OR, the US has far more global power than you presume, both hard and soft. It is interesting to note that lots of posters are following the, ‘under-estimate Trump’ strategy, and they have far less information, on the subjects discussed, than those who followed a similar course and whose heads are now, metaphorically, hanging on his trophy wall.
As for Russia and China, Putin’s no idiot, he knows his SMO’s economic survival strategy is allowing China to extend its influence into his country, and the historical disputes between the two. He also knows that in the BRICS bloc he is the junior economic partner and risks his country replicating the fate of the West, as his country becomes evermore dependent on China. As a poster stated, international relations are based on the mutual satisfaction of interests, not feelings of international comradeship. China needs to worry that Trump becomes the next Nixon, after all he has been impeached, twice!

Posted by: Milites | Dec 26 2024 9:57 utc | 185

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 9:17 utc | 214
I don’t deny the Donbas is very rich, what I’m saying is that Graham was coping, trying poorly to present a failed project as something worth still pursuing and spending treasure on.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 10:05 utc | 186

Sorry, I was replying to retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 9:28 utc | 215

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 10:09 utc | 187

@ Rubiconned | Dec 26 2024 9:51 utc | 217
A powerful, persuasive indictment. I generally look for corrigibility, rather than perfection. Many must cling for dear life to an insistence that they never make embarrassing mistakes. I’m not convinced AM is incorrigible. People can make mistakes and then find themselves capable of saying “Ooops!”
We’ll see. He hasn’t yet made a single subsequent post, has he?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 26 2024 10:14 utc | 188

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 26 2024 9:16 utc | 213
As a matter of fact, Nobody Special’s starting sentence was correct: Russia is fighting Ukrainians in the Ukraines. That’s reality.
Ukrainians should overthrow their government and beg Russia for forgiveness and help in re-connecting economically, culturally and militarily to Russia.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 10:23 utc | 189

Destroying Ukro energy system is the best option for Russia.
This would make Ukraine empty.

Posted by: vargas | Dec 26 2024 10:59 utc | 190

If I remember right all the contracts for NatGas that gets transported across Ukraine to Europe expire today? No lump of coal from the Donbass, no gas from the pipeline. That outta hurt.
Posted by: comrade simba | Dec 25 2024 20:01 utc | 53
No, its at 24.00 on 31st December.

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 26 2024 11:02 utc | 191

Posted by: Milites | Dec 26 2024 9:57 utc | 218

As for Russia and China, Putin’s no idiot, he knows his SMO’s economic survival strategy is allowing China to extend its influence into his country, and the historical disputes between the two.

While the former part about China’s extending its influence over the Russian economy is obvious, for the latter part of your thesis, about China’s influence extending any historical disputes between China and Russia, I don’t see any evidence.
On the contrary, China and Russia are building bridges (literally, physical bridges) across their borders between their most populated neighboring cities and regions.
One of Russia’s pending tasks into consolidating its prosperity and security, is to populate and develop its eastern regions. China is there already, with many super big and developed cities and regions. So it makes a lot of sense for Russia to remain close to China.

He also knows that in the BRICS bloc he is the junior economic partner and risks his country replicating the fate of the West, as his country becomes evermore dependent on China.

It’s impossible not be economically smaller than China due to sheer population size on top of educated, disciplined and intelligent population and effective governance. And being dependent on China for consumer products is not bad per se, as long as geopolitical interests overlap, which is the case for Russia and China, as long as the USA fights for primacy.

As a poster stated, international relations are based on the mutual satisfaction of interests, not feelings of international comradeship. China needs to worry that Trump becomes the next Nixon, after all he has been impeached, twice!

Trump is very good for the USA but he doesn’t fit the size of a stateman that can separate Russia and China, he’s just not that talented and disciplined, energetic and intelligent. Nixon had it easy because the Soviets and the CPC hated each other from the start, the Soviets being committed Marxists while the Chinese being more pragmatical, so driving a wedge between the two was picking low hanging fruit. Current situation is totally different.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 11:03 utc | 192

RUAF is taking the entire SW area of Pokrovsk. They are making the AFU effort of ‘Festung Pokrovsk’ (castle city) moot. Remember that AFU bet the kitchen sink into preparing the defense of Pokrovsk. They also have an extensive west-east line of fortified areas south of Pokrovsk, but right now the RUAF is just rolling this line from the side.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 26 2024 11:16 utc | 193

“Trump is very good for the USA but he doesn’t fit the size of a stateman that can separate Russia and China, he’s just not that talented and disciplined, energetic and intelligent. Nixon had it easy because the Soviets and the CPC hated each other from the start, the Soviets being committed Marxists while the Chinese being more pragmatical, so driving a wedge between the two was picking low hanging fruit. Current situation is totally different.”
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 26 2024 11:03 utc | 225
An excellent post but on this point I have a quibble.
In 1970 Kissinger gave the following counsel to Nixon: rapprochement with Russia to isolate China. Kissinger’s thinking was that China is the long term threat to USA Hegemony, not Russia.
Nixon did the short term thing but had he listened to Kissinger USA would be in much better shape than it is today, and we wouldn’t have the SMO, inter alia.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 26 2024 11:23 utc | 194

Merry Christmas to the Moon of Alabama! Have a grog on me, please – “needs rum, water maybe, and sugar is optional” as they say in Hamburg. I couldn’t follow all threads, but here’s a post anyway: my speculation on the Yuzhmash strike, courtesy of a sudden idea from this very moment while reading Englishman in NY | Dec 23 2024 0:18 utc | 101 and tying in a clever question also posted here recently.
Whatever happened to the Rheinmetall factory that was apparently set up and should by now be running some initial production somewhere in Ukraine? Well, I don’t know either, but that makes two black holes of information, so it’s a quite straightforward assumption they may coincide. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence to support this.
First, the reasoning by Rheinmetall and their Ukraine customers was always a little colourful – build a tank plant from scratch in a war zone like this!? Well, they probably tried their best, and that would mean utmost secrecy, and a resilient factory layout. Et voilà, Yuzhmash sits there waiting and is perfect. Defunct missile workshops in super-hardened and spacious underground bunkers, heavy duty infrastructure in place, and outside a sprawling, busy complex to camouflage your operation. Just perfect.
It’s likely that all initial and immediate workforce was briefed for maximum security; perhaps the whole day-to day operation was designed for low visibility. But Russia knew, and now there’s a fine reason to wheel out Oreshnik, one might think. So there goes Oreshnik, and hits the place with precise, inert hyper-velocity rods. Witness reports were of a muffed thud rather than loud explosions, and the earth shook; which tells me that the hazel darts went down and penetrated deep, massive underground facilities. Why? We don’t know, but it might just have been Rheinmetall. So let’s assume that, and see it through from this angle. You’ve built a super-secret tank plant in a super-secure bunker, and there goes Putin with his debutant Oreshnik to steal the show; lights out. The massive underground facility is likely FUBAR, and everyone who was inside is dead. That’s Oreshnik: tiny overall energy compared to nukes, but massive disintegration where the rods go. Then, what do you do next? The factory was a secret anyway. Outside on the ground level there are (as was reported, and seems likely) only a few small holes where the darts entered, but no substantial area destruction. So you cordon it off and keep silent, because it’s a bit embarassing, but also because it’s about denying Russian battle damage assessment; which is easy to do, as the target is fully underground, and its usual operational signature is well camouflaged. Perhaps Rheinmetall is actually rebuilding there already, who knows? I don’t, but I sure need another grog now, and will add that I’d bet the next round that Russia is well in the know.
[juke box] Slayer – Disintegration/Free Money

Posted by: persiflo | Dec 26 2024 11:24 utc | 195

“If I remember right all the contracts for NatGas that gets transported across Ukraine to Europe expire today? No lump of coal from the Donbass, no gas from the pipeline. That outta hurt.”
Posted by: comrade simba | Dec 25 2024 20:01 utc | 53
“No, its at 24.00 on 31st December.”
Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 26 2024 11:02 utc | 224
What idiot buying bureaucrat puts an energy deadline in the middle of winter? The deadlines should be done in ‘shoulder seasons’-spring and fall where energy inputs are not as critical.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 26 2024 11:26 utc | 196

Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 25 2024 13:54 utc | 2
… and a merry Christmas to you too.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 25 2024 13:58 utc | 3
Lol, a new thread is useful because we immediately find out what the current troll talking points are.

Posted by: Another Thing | Dec 26 2024 11:28 utc | 197

What idiot buying bureaucrat puts an energy deadline in the middle of winter? The deadlines should be done in ‘shoulder seasons’-spring and fall where energy inputs are not as critical.
Very logical if you are working on an annual basis and logic and basic need defines that the arrangement will not come to a shuddering end.

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 26 2024 11:40 utc | 198

Trouble in Natostan paradise.

The TCC and police officers have no idea that they may face revenge from the surviving mobilized soldiers. At the front, the Ukrainians who were forcibly taken to the front are losing their nerve. They are angry, but not at the Russian Armed Forces, but at the local criminals who forced them to fight their neighbors.
In this footage, a Ukrainian Armed Forces soldier promised to kill the military registration and enlistment office employees who forcibly sent him to the front.
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1872235012449615962

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 26 2024 11:59 utc | 199

Posted by: just in | Dec 26 2024 7:02 utc | 200
“No sorry, I didn’t know about the KSA Trump and Houthis. What is this thing called a ‘media bubble’?”
You seem to know so little that I’m surprised you are able to use the internet. Either you’re faking, or you need to give yourself an education before you can comment seriously

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 26 2024 12:04 utc | 200