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December 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-303

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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“Good-boy Russia. Back to the kennel for you now.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 18:56 utc | 636
That is a dangerous and all too common attitude. A view of the Russians as less. They have the saying there, thank you Joe Biden. They are now fully independent of the West.
But more than that they take this conflict very seriously. They are prepared to go as far as they need to. I’m not sure it’s a weakness to be reluctant to go to war. I agree it certainly something that can be taken advantage of

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 21 2024 20:53 utc | 601

ALL of them wield power and are in play. “Russia” is a remnant as well, far from her glory days.
None of them have “disappeared”… the global domination game continues.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 19:52 utc | 644
Think of how quickly (relatively) the British Empire disappeared.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 17:06 utc | 620
They can take an awful long time to go away.
Some say the British Empire passed it’s peak in 1903 with the Second Boer War,bits of it are ati;; ;ying around today as Dominions and Crown Colonies…
No matter, empires grow and die following a remarkably similar model. In the end, military costs exceed the tribute that cn be extracted from the colonies.
All admirably explained here: Collapse of Complex Societies by Dr. Joseph Tainter, well worth 90 minutes of any barfly’s time.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 21 2024 20:02 utc | 647
The first ones of this western cycle are already out (italy, iberian), the french are losing their last remainders of empire, GB/UK transferred most to the US.
The russian case is one I can’t quite figure, on a simplistic approach they might have shared the cycle with GB/UK, on another approach they can still be rising after a major hiccup in one of it’s avatars.
As for the us, children, they’ll be around for a long while, current situation is closer to the eastern roman empire before giving up on the old empire.

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 21 2024 21:25 utc | 602

Posted by: Satyrnalia | Dec 21 2024 20:51 utc | 657
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Because opinions differ, what do you mean by “relevant and meaningful”?
Russia has globally networked ISR. Russia has many nukes on subs.
We don’t know all of the practical and feasible applications of their breakthroughs in physics.
I am curious to discover if I am missing a weakness or of one I am not accounting for.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 21:26 utc | 603

So we are going to see a last throw of the dice : a Ukrainian offensive that uses F-16 fighters. A good moment would be Orthodox Christmas.
Once that offensive has failed, what is left? F-35?

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 21 2024 21:28 utc | 604

Regarding rumours of a new Kiev offensive: my suspicion is that the kiev regime will attack Transnistria. Its an easy target and there is no available land corridor for the Russians to engage them.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 21 2024 21:31 utc | 605

Maybe it’s that I tend to see the asymmetric before the obvious …
Any time Russia wants, they can turn off all of the power in Ukraine.
While that is not killing everyone or razing every structure, the end result would be rendering Ukraine uninhabitable, and impossible to stage warfare from.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 21:32 utc | 606

While that is not killing everyone or razing every structure, the end result would be rendering Ukraine uninhabitable, and impossible to stage warfare from.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 21:32 utc | 664
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This is what Israel, the US, Germany, France, and the UK did to the Palestinian people in Gaza.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 21 2024 21:40 utc | 607

When the Anglo-Saxons see a threat to their “ruling of the waves,” which they consider to be their natural right, there is always war. Of course, China knows this too.
After all, they are defending freedom, i.e. their freedom to do whatever they want on the world’s oceans.
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 21 2024 20:52 utc | 658
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China seems particularly concerned about what happens on its part of the planet, and I know that the Western nations share the same concern.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 21 2024 21:54 utc | 608

Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 21 2024 20:04 utc | 648
I’ve found a cat intuitively knows just when to head butt the iPads keyboard to cause maximum disruption!

Posted by: Milites | Dec 21 2024 21:55 utc | 609

RE: I’m not sure it’s a weakness **to be reluctant to go to war***. I agree it certainly something that can be taken advantage of
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 21 2024 20:53 utc | 659
Russia claims they are at War (with the West). Then they claim they they’re operating an SMO.
For a time, I believed both. Now, I believe neither.
Everything they have done for the past 10 years, has lent to being advantageous and beneficial to the US. Everything they have touched, has helped the Empire & USReal in its global aims.
Iran would be a fool to sign anything with them.
And hopefully, Khomeni has wisdom to stay away from them.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 22:08 utc | 610

Posted by: Ed | Dec 21 2024 21:40 utc | 665
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If only Russia was genocidal like the West. 😒

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 22:11 utc | 611

Everything they have done for the past 10 years, has lent to being advantageous and beneficial to the US. Everything they have touched, has helped the Empire & USReal in its global aims.
Iran would be a fool to sign anything with them.
And hopefully, Khomeni has wisdom to stay away from them.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 22:08 utc | 668
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Who has done better?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 22:12 utc | 612

Russians are in no position to make demands and they know it. No one give a flying fuck about what Putin wants to accept 😂

Posted by: Dachi | Dec 21 2024 22:17 utc | 613

Posted by: Milites | Dec 21 2024 21:55 utc | 667
https://linuxcommandlibrary.com/man/cat

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 21 2024 22:20 utc | 614

Russians are in no position to make demands and they know it. No one give a flying fuck about what Putin wants to accept 😂
Posted by: Dachi | Dec 21 2024 22:17 utc | 671
On the contrary Mr Dachi, Putin Speaks from a position of strength and projects an image of a leader in control, guiding a nation that is defying the odds and reshaping the global order.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 21 2024 22:34 utc | 615

The British newspaper The Guardian writes that the Ukrainian General Staff ordered the Air Force to send its soldiers to the front as infantry.

Two air defence sources told the Guardian that shortages at the front had become so acute that the general staff had ordered already depleted air defence units to release more men to be sent to the front as infantry.

and it looks like the anglos have yet again fired at jemens sana. unprovoked, fullscale war of aggression by the brits and the yanks. like nazis.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 21 2024 22:42 utc | 616

Passerby 662
“ So we are going to see a last throw of the dice : a Ukrainian offensive”
Ukraine might be too preoccupied dealing with Russia’s breakout attack on Odessa to find time for an offensive of their own.
https://youtu.be/ggAPBxEPyTA?si=sUYWW7eSidECfJ20
They should settle for having an offensive president.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 21 2024 22:44 utc | 617

The British newspaper The Guardian writes that the Ukrainian General Staff ordered the Air Force to send its soldiers to the front as infantry.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 21 2024 22:42 utc | 674
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Julian and Ed4 would have us believe this is the strategy winners employ.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 22:49 utc | 618

RE: “If only Russia was genocidal like the West. 😒”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 22:11 utc | 669
If only….
But alas, humanity rests on the fate of Ansarallah and his merry men of righteousness. The one & only nation willing to directly assault the kingpin of evil.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 22:56 utc | 619

@ Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 22:56 utc | 677
At least someone here has the balls to come out as a straight up genocidal radical. Fuck off.

Posted by: boneless | Dec 21 2024 23:05 utc | 620

Ed 666
“China seems particularly concerned about what happens on its part of the planet, and I know that the Western nations share the same concern.”
I suspect that one of these days out of the blue, China is going to destroy all NAZO assets in its vicinity.
Why wait for NAZO to make the first move when NAZO’s belligerent intent toward China is clear and not hidden.
Chekhov said that a rifle hanging over a fireplace in the first Act needs to be fired in the Third.
China’s millions of missiles are not sitting there for nothing.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 21 2024 23:15 utc | 621

Russian “noise”… glimpses into intent:
Expert predicts Russia, new Syrian authorities to establish strong ties
According to Wu Yihong, Russia will seek to retain its two military facilities in Syria
BEIJING, December 20. /TASS/. Russia is likely to get along well with Syria’s new government, Wu Yihong, Senior Fellow at the Taihe Institute in China, said in an interview with TASS.
“Chances are good that Russia and the new Syrian government will maintain good relations,” the expert on the Middle East stated. “Both sides have intersecting strategic interests and are likely to reach an agreement.”
According to Wu Yihong, Russia will seek to retain its two military facilities in Syria. He emphasized the strategic importance of the Russian Navy’s maintenance and logistics facility in Tartus for its Mediterranean operations, and the Hmeimim airbase’s significance for Moscow’s influence in the Middle East and Africa.
“The new Syrian government also needs Russia’s support, particularly in counter-terrorism and national security efforts,” Wu Yihong added. He suggested that media reports saying that Russo-Syrian talks are proceeding positively indicate that both sides are willing to find common ground.
“Russia’s negotiations with the new Syrian government are influenced by the international landscape, particularly relations with countries like the US, Turkey, and Israel,” the expert noted. “These countries may have some influence on the outcome of negotiations, but Russia and the new Syrian government will likely seek a middle ground that meets their interests.”
**Foreshadowing Iran:*** Now, all of the sudden:
TASS:
https://tass.com/pressreview/1890707
Press review: “Putin outlines Russia’s future goals and Tehran faces energy blackout riots”
Top stories from the Russian press on Friday, December 20th
Iran is grappling with a severe energy crisis – the authorities have implemented measures to cut off electricity to households in order to support industry amid a growing deficit. Experts told Nezavisimaya Gazeta that Tehran lacks sufficient fuel to produce electricity. The austerity measures have frequently triggered protests on Iranian streets in the past.
The blackouts and Tehran’s calls for energy conservation are seen as essential steps, Iranian government spokeswoman Fatemeh Mohajerani said. According to her, such austerity measures are dictated by the need to safeguard the country’s industrial production, which could grind to a halt due to a lack of resources.
As Emirati publication The National highlighted, Iran has some of the largest natural gas reserves in the region, but its energy sector has ***long struggled with **insufficient investment,*** which it blames on years of sanctions.
Opposition platforms warn that continued austerity measures during low temperatures could lead to widespread protests in Iran. The last “fuel” riots shook the country in 2019-2020. At that time, the wave of discontent quickly escalated into an anti-government movement with calls to overhaul the political system.
Expert at the Russian Council on International Affairs Nikita Smagin told Nezavisimaya Gazeta that ***Western sanctions have served as a crisis multiplier, worsening the overall situation.
“Initially, the problem was that every summer in Iran there were blackouts during peak hours because the infrastructure could not cope with the rising levels of consumption. This was a major issue that more than once led to significant protests in Tehran and other cities,” he said.
Currently, however, the main difficulty is different – while the capacities have been improved, the country does not have enough fuel to produce electricity, the expert added.
“So, given the ongoing processes in the region, combined with the legitimacy crisis that remains in Tehran, all of this looks quite alarming. If the authorities cannot effectively address this, ***then it could well lead to protests. The question is how extensive they can become,” he concluded.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 23:25 utc | 622

@Trubind1 | Sat, 21 Dec 2024 19:52:00 GMT | 644

ALL of the remnants of those Empires exist today, ALL of them wield power and are in play.

With very, very loose definitions of remnant, empire, and power. They are descendants of imperial powers is perhaps a better description. Erdogan might stylize himself a Sultan but Turkey is not the Ottoman empire, and barely wields power beyond its border regions. Likewise with current-day UK, a far cry from the heights of the British empire. And last I checked Mongolia was not a power player at all in today’s world.

Posted by: James M. | Dec 21 2024 23:30 utc | 623

Regarding rumours of a new Kiev offensive: my suspicion is that the kiev regime will attack Transnistria. Its an easy target and there is no available land corridor for the Russians to engage them.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 21 2024 21:31 utc | 663
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The idea of a Ukronazi assault on Transnistria has been batted around for years now. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but because both the Ukronazi regime and the Moldovan state regard Transnistria as Moldovan territory, such an assault would be an attack on Moldova without the explicit approval and maybe participation of Moldova.
Apparently there are enough troops, and certainly enough war materiel, in Transnistria to inflict considerable pain on any outside attackers, so we’ll have to see what the Moldovans and the Ukronazis throw together.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 23:33 utc | 624

Russia claims they are at War (with the West). Then they claim they they’re operating an SMO.
For a time, I believed both. Now, I believe neither.
Everything they have done for the past 10 years, has lent to being advantageous and beneficial to the US. Everything they have touched, has helped the Empire & USReal in its global aims.
Iran would be a fool to sign anything with them.
And hopefully, Khomeini has the wisdom to stay away from them.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 22:08 utc | 668
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Turbind 1, you got it all backwards.
Everything the US and NATO have done for the past 10 (scratch that) 25 years has been designed to disadvantage Russia and benefit the US [AND NATO]. Every [MOVE TO THE EAST BY NATO] has helped the Empire, not Russia, but you blame Russia?
So, go ahead, become a Putin Troll (no one gives a damn), but at least get your facts straight. The timing of the SMO was necessary to help the Russian-speaking people living in the Donbas (and anywhere east of the Dnipro River ) as they were days away from being attacked by nearly 100,000 NATO-trained and armed AFU forces.
The SMO was NECESSARY because NATO (the US) was preparing to put Nuclear capable weapons on the border with Ukraine and Russia, a 3-minute launch into Moscow. No nation in the world would allow this behavior from the US if it had the power to resist, as Russia did. In fact, that is exactly what the US did in 1962 when Russia tried to place one missile in Cuba after the US invaded Cuba. The US threatened nuclear war if they were removed pronto, and they were. The US considered their position to be self-defense then, as Russia does today.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 21 2024 23:36 utc | 625

…..the Moldovan state regard Transnistria as Moldovan territory, such an assault would be an attack on Moldova without the explicit approval and maybe participation of Moldova.
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 23:33 utc | 682
I suspect they may have made a secret agreement between them already.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 21 2024 23:43 utc | 626

Russians are in no position to make demands and they know it. No one give a flying fuck about what Putin wants to accept 😂
Posted by: Dachi | Dec 21 2024 22:17 utc | 671
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You may change your tune after seeing that flash of light and the mushroom cloud, you little weasel.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 21 2024 23:43 utc | 627

Russia continues to pressure Iran for agreement:
https://tass.com/politics/1891091
Russian deputy foreign minister, Iranian ambassador discuss high-level contacts
The sides agreed that “timely resolution of these issues is vital for the further successful development of the International North-South Transport Corridor,” the Russian Foreign Ministry stated
MOSCOW, December 20. /TASS/. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko and Iranian Ambassador to Moscow Kazem Jalali have discussed upcoming contacts at high-level and top-level meetings, the Russian Foreign Ministry reported on Friday.
“The parties discussed key issues of bilateral relations, including future contacts at high-level and top-level meetings. In the context of cooperation, the Russian side stressed the need to promptly address the issues faced by Russian freight carriers in Iran,” the ministry said.
The sides agreed that “timely resolution of these issues is vital for the further successful development of the International North-South Transport Corridor,” the Russian Foreign Ministry added.
NOTE to IRAN:
Build Atomic Bomb as fast as you can—-
(Actually… I still believe they already have some—therefore *note revision: Don’t relinquish them to Russia for a “deal”)
Also slated:
Pakistan:
“US Unveils Sanctions on Pakistan Ballistic Missile Program
Analysts caution that the incoming Trump administration could put Pakistan’s long-range ballistic missile program under scrutiny, building upon sanctions imposed by Biden”
Also—according to NYT: “Terrorism comes roaring back to Pakistan after 10 years”…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 23:45 utc | 628

I suspect they may have made a secret agreement between them already.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 21 2024 23:43 utc | 684
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Entirely possible. But for Moldova the external and internal optics would be terrible if the Ukronazis were seen as “liberating” their own “breakaway region” for them. So a secret agreement would hardly be enough.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 23:57 utc | 629

RE: . In any case, I’m eagerly waiting for a proper investigation to happen.
Posted by: RWA | Dec 21 2024 16:50 utc | 619
I’ve grown weary of hearing what Ukraine does to poor defenseless Russia proper with all their terror tactics.
Russia want to play pretend like they’re Gazan’s, unable to defend themselves or stop the madness. For Gazan’s it’s real. For Russia, they’re simply pathetic, whining about an injustice they could end in a day.
Overplayed card Russia, put your big boy pants on or STFU.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 22 2024 0:02 utc | 630

coming offensive to Kherson?
Looks for me to start expansion to Southwest, black sea coast and Odessa.
Movement of big troops are reported
https://southfront.press/first-signs-of-upcoming-russian-offensive-in-kherson/
It makes a lot of strategic sense to seal off the Black Sea coast and make Ukraine a landlocked country if Russia has enough people and material to do so.

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 0:29 utc | 631

Whether brilliant or not (time will be the judge) the American electorate decided that he was the best choice to halt the intentional destruction of our country, and I felt that he was more likely than Kamala to halt the war. At least he is looking for the brakes while she was searching for the accelerator.
Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 21 2024 19:54 utc | 645
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It’s not that I disagree with you about what the “American electorate decided this election,” but what choice did they have? Biden sucked as President, and Harris sucked as a non-elected replacement for Biden. In America’s two-party dictatorship, you only have two choices, symbolically; Elon Musk or George Soros. Again, the right or the left of the US ruling class, but the Capitalist Ruling class owns our ass any way we vote. So what are you preaching about?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 22 2024 1:09 utc | 632

Russian armor on the move. *LINK*

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 1:12 utc | 633

@LoveDonbass – see 689 above
moving to Kherson

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 1:16 utc | 634

So, go ahead, become an ANTI- Putin Troll (no one gives a damn)…
(My Bad, Ed) Dec 21 2024 23:36 utc | 683
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Posted by: Ed | Dec 22 2024 1:30 utc | 635

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 17:52 utc | 628
My views pale in comparison to those held by Iranians on the question of Palestinian sovereignty. I’ve found I’m often the moderate voice at the table (don’t laugh, it’s true).
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Ah ha. So are you’re suggesting you’re ethnically Persian, eh? And I mean that in the sense that deep down, truly patriotic “Iranis” identify as crypto Persians, not properly governed since before Mohammad Reza went all liberal and became a puppet of the US. That explains your hatred for the Outlaw Empire and the West in general … even going back to the Allies’ occupation in 1941, or maybe back to the 7thC when your heavenly hero Mohammad took over the Zoroastrians.
I’ve been trying to figure out your geo-political-religious allegiances for a while from your kooky bigotted semi-informed postings here. You preach like a Mullah some days but are broadly and deeply aware of American culture, but obviously not within it. So a well-educated, semi- liberal but semi-conservative Shia Irani would make sense.
Or perhaps you’re part of the historically resentful Persian Diaspora in the UK, Canada, EU … second/third generation. Your English is innate. You sure aren’t a proud patriot of wherever you live — just a pious grumpy opinionated bigot who seems to hate the very culture you are immersed in. Could you post all the shite you do here in a forum called “Moon of Tehran”? Lol. No, you couldn’t.
Why not go fight for and live in the budding Caliphate of Syria. Because you love all your mod cons, and the freedoms of speech it allows you, just like MoA does. If your faith is so pure, why not go live under the Taliban.
That’s the problem with you “moderate” Muslims. You’re not bomb-throwers or head-choppers like your more extremist friends around your table, but you endlessly preach to the West your nutty ideology from the safety of “our” liberal values. A stereotypical hypocrite.
I suspect your deviating opinions with our other visiting Islamicist firebrand, the latent terrorist @Giyane, is because he is Sunni Muslim. Similar common enemies but doctrinal differences. Am I right? Is he one of the more radicals around your table in Birmingham or London?
Fyi, I once met a Persian who was one of those in the Shah’s security team involved in a failed assasination upon him (c. 1975). He fled to a tiny Greek island mountain village and lived out his days there pretending to be a Greek, in mortal fear of the SAVAK finding and killing him. You would have gotten on well with him … except he hated the mullahs. He was a true Persian, imo. You’re just a lost little soul, beholden to your narratives and fantasies who’s swallowed the Koran and preaches moral superiority to everyone you address here.
And … you’re one of the most prolific contributors here, clearly illustrating your need to be heard, your need to sound knowledgeable, your need to make cyber friends — a sad little keyboard warrior, (probably still a student at age 30), who just loves to opine and argue deep into the nights.

Posted by: Just a Voice | Dec 22 2024 1:52 utc | 636

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 15:42 utc | 614 “What about the costs to America?”
What is the ratio of US soldiers KIA in Ukraine vs. Russian KIA? The dollar cost runs maybe 5% of the US defense budget?

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 22 2024 2:13 utc | 637

I just notice that this thread is linked wrong.
It has topic « Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-302 | Main | Palestine Open Thread 2024-304 »

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 2:18 utc | 638

Posted by: Just a Voice | Dec 22 2024 1:52 utc | 694
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Not my post. Hilarious that you wrote such a long diatribe about it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 2:27 utc | 639

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 22 2024 2:13 utc | 695
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What is the ratio of Schrute Bucks to Stanley Nickels?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 2:30 utc | 640

coming offensive to Kherson?
Looks for me to start expansion to Southwest, black sea coast and Odessa.
Movement of big troops are reported
https://southfront.press/first-signs-of-upcoming-russian-offensive-in-kherson/
It makes a lot of strategic sense to seal off the Black Sea coast and make Ukraine a landlocked country if Russia has enough people and material to do so.
Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 0:29 utc | 689
Russian armor on the move. *LINK*
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 1:12 utc | 691
Southfront is mentioning it, simplicius posts about material being transferred.
But Dachi and Kherson are just a joke without the move I mentioned some weeks/months ago (and was even tested but abandoned)
Kamianske E105 straight to Zaporozhye, take the other side as well and roll on 3 axis, Dnipro to the north E50 (might come in handy to block single blocks), H08 Nikopol (and close kherson later) to the south, and of course krivi Rih down the H11 to odesa and beyon.
Now I’m going for some highly speculative stuff, there has been some talk about Transnistria, maybe cutting off the coast and insuring a land bridge is enough right now. Maybe once again RF is reacting, same as it was forced to open the SMO before the AFU atacked the oblasts, but choosing to do it on RF’s terms and not AFU’s.
Now for “can they do it” …
IF 1 million is reserves enough for everything else then putin has 5 times as many men as he had for the start of the SMO, AFU has maybe as many as they had then but plenty of them in the hospital. And no AD, no air force, limited to no artillery, etc, etc. and biggest etc, nowhere to get more.
Can anyone say merry christmas mr.z?
Plenty of other fun parts to discuss, will the f16 dare to show up?
Will nato or the eu do anything?
Will this collapse as neatly as syria and be a reasonable quid pro quo?
Anyway, as I mentioned at the start, until E105 is underway I’m calling it a practical joke (or a diversion at best).

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 22 2024 2:32 utc | 641

re: Love Donbass @ #609, John Marks @ #634 – more…
Strong Security Focus in Canada’s New Arctic Foreign Policy
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/strong-security-focus-canadas-new-arctic-foreign-policy
“The Arctic is no longer a low tension region. We live in a tough world and we need to be tough in our response,’ says Canadian MFA Melanie Joly.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 2:38 utc | 642

…about Transnistria…
bullshit. typical troll game of confusion

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 2:44 utc | 643

“Russians are in no position to make demands and they know it. No one give a flying fuck about what Putin wants to accept 😂
Posted by: Dachi | Dec 21 2024 22:17 utc | 671 ”
Dachi must be phoning in his wisdom from another Universe. He appears to have no idea whats happening in this one.

Posted by: Yarpos | Dec 22 2024 2:46 utc | 644

by @Morok_U_G_M
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1870637930068525227

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 2:51 utc | 645

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 2:38 utc | 701
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Exactly what I was driving at. I think Trump was early to this publicly when the American media mocked him for mentioning wanting to purchase Greenland back in 2015/6.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 3:02 utc | 646

Posted by: Philly | Dec 22 2024 2:52 utc | 705
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It is funny that you’re now talking to your other username.
Like I said yesterday, you’re just here for the attention.
Sad!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 3:06 utc | 647

Further to #701 and northern militarization:
Canada’s NORAD Modernization Plan
https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/canadas-norad-modernization-plan-hinges-on-the-norths-expertise-and-innovation-lee-carson-and-patrick-duxbury-for-inside-policy/
“Canada has a NORAD treaty commitment with the United States to share in the defence of North America – primarily against threats emanating from Russia and increasingly China, that criss-cross over the Arctic.
Under pressure, the federal government committed to a major investment in NORAD modernization in July of 2022..”
Indeed, one of the causes of the ballooning Canadian federal budget under Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland from 40 to 60 billion has been the huge expenditures for defence and militarization.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 3:10 utc | 648


Now piss off you incompetent loser troll.
Posted by: Philly | Dec 22 2024 3:25 utc | 709

haha
whatta maroon

Posted by: Carrion | Dec 22 2024 3:41 utc | 649

It was not my post. Hilarious that you wrote such a long diatribe about it.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 2:27 utc | 697
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True, someone mis-pasted post numbers! Notwithstanding, 628 WAS yours, and the bulk of my 684 stands as valid for all your other bullshit on here.
And besides, calling Milites a committed Zionist in 628 (a daft accusation, btw, only showing YOUR true biases) was totally within your historical purview whenever retaliating in ad hominum from a rational whipping of your bullshit.
You’re so intellectually dishonest and DISINGENUOUS — exactly as Milites posted. You have ZERO credibility.

Posted by: Just a Voice | Dec 22 2024 3:45 utc | 650

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 21 2024 13:08 utc | 593
“The real world is as different from our western Cold War brainwashing as chalk from cheese.”
I won’t deny the Russophobic perspective that we in the West have had imparted through our education, but to believe that your 2 or 3 week tour into Russia is an accurate view of the conditions in the USSR during the Cold War or that your brief snapshot of life during Glasnost under Gorbachev somehow negates first-hand accounts of people like Alexander Solzhenitsyn or Nathan Sharansky is very myopic of you.
Assuming that you are humble enough to acknowledge that you don’t know everything, I’d recommend that you read Live Not By Lies, by Rod Dreher. You will come away with a more accurate picture of life behind the Iron Curtain in the 40’s through the 80’s.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 22 2024 3:58 utc | 651

Posted by: Ed | Dec 22 2024 1:09 utc | 690
“So what are you preaching about?”
My point is that sometimes you pick the least bad option, cast your vote and then pray that God will work it out for good. You don’t need to criticize people or insinuate that they acted in bad faith just because you don’t like how things turned out.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 22 2024 4:10 utc | 652

Ukraine’s Attack on Russia – Yemen’s Hypersonic Attack on Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG5qErFKSE
Scott Ritter and Larry Johnson

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 4:54 utc | 653

@John Gilberts 720
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Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 4:57 utc | 654

From above corrected: Ritter & Johnson on Ukraine/Yemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG5qErFK5E

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 4:59 utc | 655

I can see I’ll need to repost this tomorrow, but here’s something for the night owls at the bar to read:
Just as important as Putin’s Direct Line was the State Council on Families Meeting that happened the next day. Russia faces a battle just as important to win as that against NATO, and that’s its demographic battle–something I’ve been saying for many years. Its importance has finally been recognized by what can be called Russia’s Deep State and was discussed at length in “Meeting of Russia’s State Council on Family Support,” which I hope my analysis makes clearer to readers, https://karlof1.substack.com/p/meeting-of-russias-state-council
Be prepared for a long. detailed read as Putin seeks input from all, perhaps the most important coming from Zyuganov.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 22 2024 5:06 utc | 656

ZH has a posting up with the title
Trump Reportedly Plans To Continue Aid To Ukraine But Will Raise NATO Spending To 5%
Don’t know if trial balloon or new policy….too soon to tell

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2024 6:24 utc | 657

I think it’s a tranquilizer for the Europeans, so that nothing extreme is started in the last four weeks that ties Trump’s hands completely.
After all, he can’t change everything immediately after taking office, he has to sort out the deep stage, the officials, first, otherwise they’ll put obstacles in his way. I expect that to take four weeks, maybe longer.

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 7:00 utc | 658

Posted by: Phillis | Dec 22 2024 4:31 utc | 719
Take the hint. Bye.

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 22 2024 7:04 utc | 659

In response to Aleph null @572) and others upthread
Coulomb Bomb
Having first read about this idea on this forum, my initial reaction was-Science Fiction-. But on reflection it does not appear quite so crazy since we have all experienced salvos of Coulomb bombs during thunder storms.
Lightning is the result of large electrical charge imbalance between the clouds (positive from memory) and the earth (negative), which results in a large electrical potential difference (voltage) between clouds and earth. Eventually this potential increases to a point beyond the “dielectric strength” of the air and a conductive channel is formed over which a very large current travels-for a very short time. This current is of course lightning, but it heats the surrounding air which then expands, leaving a partial vacuum around the channel. When the air rushes in to re-fill the vacuum it creates the shock waves we know as thunder.
Now, is t possible that Russian engineers and scientists have found a way to harness the immense thermal energy generated by the passage of a material object through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds, and used it to induce massive ionisation of some (presently unknown) high strength dielectric. If so, then in effect they would have created a very highly charged electric capacitor-in effect a bottled up lightning bolt.
If then these could be reliably directed t specific targets-particularly subterranean targets- then they have a very potent and versatile non-nuclear weapon. These things could apparently be used (depending on the rocket used) on any target anywhere on Earth. Also, the shock waves (thunder) if confined to subterranean structures -such as command centres, missile silos or Ukrainian rocket factories would be magnified to the obliterating level.
Has the despicable Putin convinced his minions to produce such lightning bombs, and hence elevated himself to a reincarnation of Zeus?? If so, western decision makers would not be secure in their underground bunkers and should be afraid. Very afraid, since I don’t think Zeus has any Favorites, Jews, Zionists, Capitalists or any other western micro-encyclics. The same would apply to their tame trolls.
Just throwing this out there

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 22 2024 7:05 utc | 660

The biggest problem is probably the range for larger payloads, i.e. hypersonic ICBMs.
A new hypersonic submarine, the Archangelsk, is currently being equipped. But in January, during the first test of a hypersonic ICBM, the thing exploded on takeoff and left a large crater. Nothing else has been published about it since then (at least I haven’t found any), so it’s unclear how far Russia has progressed with its development.
So not worldwide yet, even if the Russian base in Nicaragua (as a successor to Cuba) will probably also be equipped with the medium-range version, which could cover a large part of the USA, and the northern launch position is to be built in the Arctic (although this may also be done by the Archangelsk, which is intended for the “northern” area).

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 7:30 utc | 661

Coulombic explosion? This is why the bar is fascinating place to hang out, thanks Gents.
I remember sometime back when President Putin talked about having created weapons that bend the laws of physic. Loads of jokes about that were made at this very bar.

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 22 2024 7:35 utc | 663

@Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 22 2024 7:05 utc | 727
The problem is conservation of energy. The missile cannot deliver more energy than the fuel which hefted it up into space (and will of course deliver much less since most of that energy is lost.

Posted by: Tim | Dec 22 2024 7:49 utc | 664

@Tim 731 – nonsense. As with a meteorite, the speed is increased by gravity in the direction of flight. The energy of the drive is only needed to reach the top speed and altitude, not after that.

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 7:55 utc | 665

Today marks the first time in the war where Russia used 100% civilian vehicles for a major assault on Ukranian lines.
But don’t worry according to Putin everything’s going to plan.

Posted by: minarima | Dec 22 2024 8:06 utc | 666

Barrel Brown | Dec 22 2024 7:05 utc
A very good speculation. Plasma is inherently a charged phenomenon and the Coulombic effect is intra-atomic if I understand things correctly. That is, if the inherent balance in an atom is disturbed by stripping out charge, and if that atom is part of a lattice or matrix, then the adjoining atoms are bound to be affected somehow. Particularly so if the unbalancing is widespread, across many atoms. It’s not too hard to imagine a cascading effect, over a very short timescale.
We bears of very little brain can only speculate, but that past assertion of ‘new principles’ certainly erects a ‘dig here’ neon sign. Neon signage, of course, uses confined plasma…..

Posted by: Waymad | Dec 22 2024 9:37 utc | 667

Posted by: wp007 | Dec 22 2024 7:55 utc | 732
You are correct wp007.
@Tim 731 – nonsense. As with a meteorite, the speed is increased by gravity in the direction of flight. The energy of the drive is only needed to reach the top speed and altitude, not after that.
Tim needs to revise his physics knowledge. Also, if the glide vehicles have their own rocket propulsion, this would supplement the gravitational potential energy and result in enhanced speed on impact.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 22 2024 9:47 utc | 668

V.T. correspondent Lucas Leiroz just reported that the Deputy Foreign Minister of Poland has stated that the regime in Warsaw is cutting back on major assistance to the Maidan regime in Kiev. No more Mig 29s to the rapidly degrading Ukie military UNLESS the U$$A provides the Polaks with F-35s to replace them
To date, the Polish regime has sent several thousands of Polish troops to fight in Ukraine, while whitewashing them as “mercenaries”. In addition to munitions that terminally stoopid Polish regime has provided the Pukes with more than five billion Euros…a relatively huge sum for a country of modest means..

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 22 2024 10:14 utc | 669

In before post 800? Maybe people should drink more to post less? 😛
I think this Coulomb stuff is barking up the wrong tree and/or getting lost in the woods; all of it seems to end up talking about plain uninteresting plasma. Plasma isn’t really anything more special that liquids or solids or gas, or even Bose-Einstein condensate (yet another distinctive state of matter). It’s not magical!
If the vague Russian claims of efficiency or (future?) potential are true then an inert kinetic warhead (kinetic impactor) must clearly be more advanced in its composition than “just another slab of ordinary matter”.
At the same time if it relies on non-inherent mechanisms then it can no longer be called an inert kinetic anything, ie. no longer a kinetic impactor.
Thus one can wonder about how precise or meaningful any description or claim actually is.
Throw in the double (it goes both ways) language barrier on top of that and one can’t even have any confidence in having understood what was meant (this is becoming a recurring issue).
Silence might be better than that.
Honestly at this point in time it seems the only sensible conclusion has to be that there’s too little information to speculate in any meaningful way! 😀

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 22 2024 10:26 utc | 670

Deep State didn’t update yesterday, either. That will mean 3 days advance to compare to. So 69 kmsq as a baseline, NOV pace.
I kinda doubt they are anything near that unless DS finds some major gray cope to convert.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 22 2024 10:44 utc | 671

what are the discussions about? you can clearly see the results on the battlefield. Russia is fighting alone against Ukraine and NATO and is making progress little by little. What more evidence is needed?

Posted by: 123 | Dec 22 2024 10:59 utc | 672

Posted by: Just a Voice | Dec 22 2024 1:52 utc | 694
That thar is fightin’ talk.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 22 2024 12:20 utc | 673

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 2:38 utc | 701
#################
“Exactly what I was driving at. I think Trump was early to this publicly when the American media mocked him for mentioning wanting to purchase Greenland back in 2015/6.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 3:02 utc | 706
In 1997 a Danish delegation came to my venture capital office in Toronto. Greenland was costing them a fortune and they wanted to sell it.
I put together a group to do such a thing. At the time there were 55,000 people living there and almost everything had to be imported yet there was little export so shipping was expensive as the was no return loads.
My idea was to use the natural pure Greenland ice as exotic drinking water. We would just put the ice into cans and as the ships got into warmer climes they would melt so no energy needed-we even had a potential huge corporate sponsor.
We believed we could start the ‘Glacier Water’ project while simultaneously exploring Greenland for iron ore, lithium, rare earths and other minerals..
But we couldn’t make the model work as you couldn’t bring in enough imports to match so the shipping (opposite problem)one way was too expensive so we had to give up the Ghost.
The Danes have been trying to unload this albatross since the 1950’s….Trump’s idea is sound especially when you take inot acount the geopolitical/military angle.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 22 2024 12:37 utc | 674

Comrade Stalin would know what to do now.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 22 2024 13:05 utc | 675

New simplicius post, very little speculation about Kherson compared to mine at the end of last page 😀
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-122124-things-heat-up-in-kherson

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 22 2024 13:17 utc | 676

Posted by: Chen | Dec 22 2024 8:38 utc | 731
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I don’t know what you were expecting. Forever war with hundreds of millions dead?
Russia learned from the Soviet era. They have zero interest in Empire or running the planet.
Reconciliation (at some point) was always in the cards, just as reconciliation between Jews and Muslims is the future.
Take a clue from how Putin has built a relationship with the Chechens after a vicious recent past.
Given the opportunity, Putin will do the same with the Ukrainians.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 14:25 utc | 677

Which should inform everyone about why he has not turned the power off or nuked Kiev.
Remember, you can’t be the good guy if you behave like a bad guy. Bad guys pursue vengeance, not forgiveness.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 14:28 utc | 678

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 22 2024 10:14 utc | 734
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An opportunity for everyone to squeeze Uncle Sam for better kit.
Poland could not suck up hard enough to Trump on his first state visit. Trump respects strength, not sycophancy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 14:30 utc | 679

Posted by: canuck | Dec 22 2024 12:37 utc | 739
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Very interesting. And here I was thinking that you were just another hoser. 😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 14:31 utc | 680

@ LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 14:28 utc | 743
“you can’t be the good guy if you behave like a bad guy.”
Elegantly stated👍. I’m sure the Global Majority agree !

Posted by: Featherless | Dec 22 2024 16:36 utc | 681

wp007 | Dec 21 2024 5:17 utc | 544
*** @LoveDonbass – stop dreaming, Trump doesn’t want nukes, even no hazelnuts. He is a businessman, he will try to make a deal, will not increase the acression.***
Trump is a fanatical Zionist with especially close ties to the Lubos, who want to get themselves a new Khazaria … and that means most of Ukraine.
Whether or not he is a “businessman” is irrelevant.
But note that, in addition to military force and murder, the US-empire and its Zionist masters continually advance their own interests via lies and betrayal … no “deal” with them is ever going to be anything but deception on their part, and self-delusion by their opponents.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 22 2024 17:03 utc | 682

Aleph_Null | Dec 21 2024 8:00 utc | 558
*** N Putin implies that with enough Oreshniks nukes are obsolete. There’s no military need for a more indiscriminate weapon.***
Was that what he really meant?
These missiles are not substitites for either nuclear or thermobaric. Not for conventional high explosive, either.
They are very specialised and precise — an addition to the armoury, rather than a replacement for anything already there.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 22 2024 17:12 utc | 683

Trubind1 | Dec 21 2024 23:25 utc | 676
*** As Emirati publication The National highlighted, Iran has some of the largest natural gas reserves in the region, but its energy sector has ***long struggled with **insufficient investment,*** which it blames on years of sanctions.***
If true, would seem a disturbingly “neoliberal” scenario.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 22 2024 17:40 utc | 684

“Maroon…
Now piss off you incompetent loser troll.”
Posted by: Philly | Dec 22 2024 3:25 utc | 705
Hi Philly. For you:
“What a Maroon
Posted by ESC on February 02, 2007
In Reply to: What a Maroon posted by ESC on February 02, 2007
: : : What a Maroon. Where did this phrase originate? Used to describe an idiot, a dumb person. I seem to remember Bugs Bunny using it.
: : It is indeed, classic Bugs Bunny. A comic variant of “moron”…
: Also said by Bugs: im-BESsul(imbecile).
And you can hear him here:
What an imbesile, what an ultra maroon
http://www.barbneal.com/ wav/ltunes/Bugs/Bugs13.wav
What a maroon, what an ignoranimous
http://www.barbneal.com/ wav/ltunes/Bugs/Bugs34.wav
http://www.barbneal.com/ bugs.htmx
END
People born in the 60s and 70s grew up with the popular Bugs Bunny cartoon from Warner Bros. The cartoon not only originated some popular Expressions but Drew heavily on historical characters.
Using it isn’t wrong so much as dating ad placing someone culturally.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 22 2024 22:41 utc | 685

Using it isn’t wrong so much as dating ad placing someone culturally.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 22 2024 22:41 utc | 750
Thanks for the entertaining and incredibly obscure Bugs Bunny history lesson, David.
That said, the fact remains: the idiot morons in question continue to be morons, compounding their incompetence by misspelling the very word they were trying to use. This has absolutely nothing to do with Bugs Bunny. Associating his esteemed name with these losers is a travesty, David—shame on you for even entertaining the idea! 😉
For reference, a double entendre is a figure of speech or phrase with two interpretations, one often subtle, clever, or suggestive, and ideally humorous.
Unfortunately, the abusive arseholes dominating this forum are neither humorous nor clever. I’m looking at you, Jerkoff Kasbah, Jimmy Mongrel, Militant Moron, and, of course, the unhinged Can Suck with his latest sock puppet creation, Carry On Luggage.

Posted by: Phillis | Dec 22 2024 23:23 utc | 686

“I won’t deny the Russophobic perspective that we in the West have had imparted through our education, but to believe that your 2 or 3 week tour into Russia is an accurate view of the conditions in the USSR during the Cold War or that your brief snapshot of life during Glasnost under Gorbachev somehow negates first-hand accounts of people like Alexander Solzhenitsyn or Nathan Sharansky is very myopic of you.
Assuming that you are humble enough to acknowledge that you don’t know everything, I’d recommend that you read Live Not By Lies, by Rod Dreher. You will come away with a more accurate picture of life behind the Iron Curtain in the 40’s through the 80’s.”
Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 22 2024 3:58 utc | 690
Yes I have read Solzhenitsyn and Pasternak and others.
I also read quite a bit of Russian history including from neocon types like Richard Pipes.
I was just relating my experience of first travel to Russia,
not giving a full exegesis of why one is good and the other is bad.
If you think in such binary terms it means someone has groomed you to be cannon fodder.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 23 2024 18:48 utc | 687