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December 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-303
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: salmon | Dec 20 2024 17:35 utc | 441 Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 20 2024 17:54 utc | 401 From what I have heard so far, the Kremlin is desperately begging in the background for negotiations to settle the Ukraine conflict and lift the sanctions. Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 20 2024 17:55 utc | 402 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 16:05 utc | 421 Posted by: Milites | Dec 20 2024 17:56 utc | 403
Regarding attacking bridges, railways and 750 kV distribution, this is nothing new as it has only been done rarely if ever. Nothing has changed in this regard in prospect of Trump or the ‘oligarch theories’. Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2024 18:02 utc | 404 Gepostet von: Justpassinby | 20. Dez 2024 17:04 UTC | 437 Posted by: joe911 | Dec 20 2024 18:02 utc | 405 The US is going to be the first of the great industrialised nations that moves towards a genuinely post Cold-War world by beginning to shake of the multiple, interlocking, mutually supportive bureaucratic structures that were constructed to allow a continuity of purpose, irrespective of any democratic intervention. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 18:23 utc | 406 From what I have heard so far, the Kremlin is desperately begging in the background for negotiations to settle the Ukraine conflict and lift the sanctions. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 18:25 utc | 407 Here is Reuters telling the enemy………/s Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2024 18:25 utc | 408 Posted by: salmon | Dec 20 2024 17:35 utc | 441 Posted by: scc | Dec 20 2024 18:25 utc | 409 Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 20 2024 17:55 utc | 443 Posted by: scc | Dec 20 2024 18:32 utc | 410 Exclusive: US to announce final package of new arms for Ukraine in coming days Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 18:34 utc | 411
Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 20 2024 17:55 utc | 443 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 18:37 utc | 412
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/kievshchina/1734717557-na-kiyivshchini-rosiyski-shahedi-povnistyu-znishchili-sklad-iz-produktsieyu-silpo (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 18:46 utc | 413 The Canadian Government/Gouvernement du Canada has done gender training in Ukraine? Justin, bombs are falling there and you are educating them about pronoun usage?
These are the new Jesuit missionaries. Posted by: Passerby | Dec 20 2024 18:53 utc | 414 In Kiev region, Russian “shaheds” completely destroyed a warehouse with Silpo products Posted by: joe911 | Dec 20 2024 19:09 utc | 415 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 20 2024 18:53 utc | 455 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Dec 20 2024 19:10 utc | 416 Andrei M. has posted his take on today’s Kiev strikes here: https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/12/another-one-goes-to-sea.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:14 utc | 417 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Dec 20 2024 19:10 utc | 457 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 20 2024 19:17 utc | 418 @ joe911 | Dec 20 2024 19:09 utc | 456 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:20 utc | 419 Six Dead After Ukrainian Strikes Using US-Made HIMARS – Russian Governor Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 20 2024 19:23 utc | 420
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/hersonshchina/1734698377-rosiyani-vlashtuvali-u-hersoni-peklo-v-ova-pokazali-naslidki-masovanih-obstriliv (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:27 utc | 421 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:27 utc | 462 Posted by: joe911 | Dec 20 2024 19:39 utc | 422
some time ago I stumbled across information Posted by: MAKK | Dec 20 2024 19:41 utc | 423 Six Dead After Ukrainian Strikes Using US-Made HIMARS – Russian Governor Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 19:45 utc | 424 statement A:
statement B:
IMU that would be completely incompatible as observed “facts”. Posted by: MAKK | Dec 20 2024 19:45 utc | 425 @ joe911 | Dec 20 2024 19:39 utc | 463 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:49 utc | 426 Russian Air force continue their anti-record of killing less than 0.1 civilian per missile. Israeli must be having a chuckle. Posted by: boneless | Dec 20 2024 19:49 utc | 427 @ MAKK | Dec 20 2024 19:45 utc | 466 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 19:57 utc | 428 Russian Air force continue their anti-record of killing less than 0.000000000000000000001 Western warmongers per missile. Posted by: Joe911 | Dec 20 2024 20:03 utc | 429 @ joe911 | Dec 20 2024 19:39 utc | 463 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 20:12 utc | 430 Ukrainian losses still running at around 60,000 a month, off the peak of around 90,000 a few months ago. Less front-line Ukies to kill, or are they are lot less likely to throw their lives away after being press-ganged? Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 20 2024 20:21 utc | 431
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 20:12 utc | 471 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 20:25 utc | 432 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 20:12 utc | 471 Posted by: Joe911 | Dec 20 2024 20:26 utc | 433 @ Newbie | Dec 20 2024 20:12 utc | 471 Posted by: boneless | Dec 20 2024 20:30 utc | 434 B R E A K I N G – N E W S Posted by: TURK | Dec 20 2024 20:35 utc | 435
From the perspective of Biden’s handlers it is the best way. Posted by: MAKK | Dec 20 2024 20:36 utc | 436 Posted by: joe911 | Dec 20 2024 18:02 utc | 446 Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 20 2024 20:36 utc | 437 @ Joe911 | Dec 20 2024 20:26 utc | 474 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 20:41 utc | 438 Must be getting to Santa Claws time with his sacks of money for all the goodies. So now Trump wants “payments” to NATO to rise to 5% of GNP for European countries – and he was the person who was going to cut NATO down to size? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 20:55 utc | 440 Dima was saying several high ranking Ukrainian or NATO officer’s likely generals, were evicted from a roof top penthouse in Kiev. He said to watch for stories from the EU were some NATO General had a deadly skiing accident……funny guy. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 20 2024 20:59 utc | 441 Ukrainian losses still running at around 60,000 a month, off the peak of around 90,000 a few months ago. Less front-line Ukies to kill, or are they are lot less likely to throw their lives away after being press-ganged? Posted by: Newbie | Dec 20 2024 21:08 utc | 442 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 20:55 utc | 481 Posted by: Milites | Dec 20 2024 22:01 utc | 443 For a few years now, CIA has been recruiting young and dumb people online in Russia and telling them to throw Molotov cocktails at military commissariats and government buildings. In most cases, no real damage is done. These “contractors” are mostly doing it for the money they are promised through messaging apps. Some of them are brainwashed by ideology. Others are scared into submission via various tricks. They all can’t understand that they will end up spending at least a decade in jail for a few hundred dollars and nothing to show for it. Posted by: RWA | Dec 20 2024 22:07 utc | 444 This war should have ended by Russia winning fast and decisively, rather than continuing for years where Russians still die, Russian cities get bombed, Russian allies like Syria and Armenia falling Posted by: Dao Ma Soldier | Dec 20 2024 22:17 utc | 445 According to Quint, the shark hunter, Posted by: Henri Peut-Etre | Dec 20 2024 22:19 utc | 446 Posted by: Milites | Dec 20 2024 22:01 utc | 484 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 22:20 utc | 447 About F-16s over Western Ukraine Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 20 2024 22:22 utc | 448
Nothing Russia has done has deterred Ukraine nor NATO from ratcheting up the war. This half-baked war won’t work when it should be an existential war. Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 20 2024 22:26 utc | 449 This half-baked war won’t work when it should be an existential war. Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 20 2024 22:30 utc | 450 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 18:23 utc | 447 Posted by: Milites | Dec 20 2024 22:37 utc | 451 Posted by: RWA | Dec 20 2024 22:07 utc | 485 Posted by: Milites | Dec 20 2024 22:41 utc | 452 Despite Western provocations, Putin (and his entire staff) are trying to avoid anything that would allow the West to declare NATO’s alliance, and until Trump takes office, to avoid anything that would allow Biden to declare war, which under the US Constitution would then mean that Trump cannot take office. Posted by: wp007 | Dec 20 2024 22:46 utc | 453 to avoid anything that would allow Biden to declare war, which under the US Constitution would then mean that Trump cannot take office. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 20 2024 22:57 utc | 454 @ Milites | Dec 20 2024 22:37 utc | 492 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 22:59 utc | 455 Kurakhove seems to be taken pretty much intact. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 20 2024 23:16 utc | 456 @ Vargas | Dec 20 2024 23:16 utc | 498 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 23:42 utc | 457 @ Vargas | Dec 20 2024 23:16 utc | 498 Posted by: Vargas | Dec 20 2024 23:46 utc | 458 @ wp007 | Dec 20 2024 22:46 utc | 494 Posted by: I forgot | Dec 20 2024 23:50 utc | 459 Given that the US has been the pre-eminent country for nearly a century, whilst The Russians never have been, in their entire history one would therefore predict the US would endure longer. Or am I misreading a theory that’s based on explaining a catering establishments longevity and repurposed for predicting the success of comedians? Personally I like the idea that we are perhaps approaching a paradigm shift, with all that entails, certainly the auguries are pointing in that direction. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2024 23:51 utc | 460 Sebastian Gorka, part of Trump’s administratoin, wants to (massively) increase military aid to Ukraine when Putin doesn’t want to bow to the will of Trump. Posted by: WMG | Dec 20 2024 23:52 utc | 461 Posted by: WMG | Dec 20 2024 23:52 utc | 503 Posted by: Naive | Dec 21 2024 0:25 utc | 462 Ahah! Posted by: Naive | Dec 21 2024 0:29 utc | 463 @I forgot When the SMO started, that prediction would’ve been plausible. Now, the RoW would immediately understand. Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 0:35 utc | 464 @ Vargas Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 0:43 utc | 465 I am really very happy with Trump. Gorka will do more to undermine the Empire than anyone. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 0:46 utc | 466 I believe most arm chair strategist and analysts will agree – Russia has a great opportunity Posted by: TURK | Dec 21 2024 0:51 utc | 467 the inevitability of the British Empire and the power of its navy. Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 21 2024 1:18 utc | 468 @ Philly | Dec 21 2024 1:24 utc | 512 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 1:36 utc | 469 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 20 2024 22:59 utc | 496 Posted by: Milites | Dec 21 2024 1:44 utc | 470 I speak here to reassure the Russia people that I will continue to protect Russian interests and Russian military personnel. Posted by: Vladimir Pussy | Dec 21 2024 1:53 utc | 471 Russia is stuck inside Ukraine and the price they pay increases everyday.This is what US wanted and they succeeded.This war also allowed US to expand it’s control over Europe as Russia/European relations will be fractured for decades to come. Posted by: Scorpionking | Dec 21 2024 2:11 utc | 472 Posted by: Scorpionking | Dec 21 2024 2:11 utc | 519 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 2:28 utc | 473 @ Philly | Dec 21 2024 2:22 utc | 520 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 2:37 utc | 474 @ Philly | Dec 21 2024 2:28 utc | 522 Posted by: james | Dec 21 2024 2:37 utc | 475 Posted by: Philly | Dec 21 2024 2:37 utc | 523 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 2:46 utc | 476 BORZIKKMAN is claiming that Russia has deployed multiple Oreshnik platforms in the far North East, bordering Alaska, which gives them range all over the continental US. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 2:52 utc | 477 Wading through all the trolling swamp is worth it when I come upon this:
karlof1, you are a modern day scribe whose efforts win the day. Many many thanks! Posted by: juliania | Dec 21 2024 3:03 utc | 478 Posted by: Philly | Dec 21 2024 2:09 utc | 518 Posted by: Badjoke | Dec 21 2024 3:27 utc | 479 Trump is a scammer, and it seems clear that Russia and Putin are being used as a punchbag by the US and NATO for the two inter president months, the expectation being that Russia are waiting on the off-chance that Trump will be positive and won’t retaliate to NATO strikes on Russian territory. Posted by: Winston | Dec 21 2024 3:43 utc | 480 @ Philly Loss of annexed regions: While damaging, it has not stripped Ukraine of its core agricultural base. Ukraine retains control of the majority of its black soil regions, sustaining its agricultural potential. Call me Ms Info today Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 4:03 utc | 481 @514 Russia is coming up to the 3rd anniversary of the beginning of the ‘SMO’ aka War against Ukraine….blah,blah,blah Posted by: Yarpos | Dec 21 2024 4:04 utc | 482 Posted by: juliania | Dec 21 2024 3:03 utc | 528 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 4:17 utc | 483 @Winston Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 4:18 utc | 484 That is a bit rich. Who appointed you judge and jury on the facts? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 4:22 utc | 485 Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 4:18 utc | 535 Posted by: Badjoke | Dec 21 2024 4:39 utc | 486 Fine. I’m done here. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 4:48 utc | 487 @Badjoke – and if they had warp drive and antigravity, they would have even more advantages Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 4:55 utc | 488 @ wp007 | Dec 21 2024 4:55 utc | 541 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 5:03 utc | 489 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 4:48 utc | 539 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:06 utc | 490 It’s not going to leave. It is here for attention. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 5:09 utc | 491 Two good pieces by Will Schryver
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Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:11 utc | 492 @malenkov – You feel very superior? But you didn’t understand my answer. So first read, understand, think, then start babbling Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 5:13 utc | 493 @LoveDonbass – stop dreaming, Trump doesn’t want nukes, even no hazelnuts. He is a businessman, he will try to make a deal, will not increase the acression. Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 5:17 utc | 494 @ wp007 | Dec 21 2024 5:13 utc | 547 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 5:19 utc | 495 I think it was in a recent Danny Davis video that he was saying that Russian 10-man units, which split into 2 groups of 5, then split those into two groups, one of 3 and one of 2 have 50 drones monitoring and overwatching them as they advance. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:20 utc | 496 Posted by: wp007 | Dec 21 2024 5:17 utc | 548 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:24 utc | 497 About the advances mentioned at Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:20 utc | 550 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:27 utc | 498 Back to my earlier comment today about Putin refusing to negotiate with the Ukrainians until they have an elected President AND Rada is brilliant because it gives Trump a way out of Ukraine where he can put it on them to become legitimate “democratically” when we know that Ukrainian public sentiment these days will see none of those crooks re-elected. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 21 2024 5:32 utc | 499 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 21 2024 5:03 utc | 543 Posted by: Badjoke | Dec 21 2024 6:24 utc | 500 |
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