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December 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-303
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Is he crazy, or does he think the Russians are too stupid to stop such production? Posted by: ossi | Dec 18 2024 16:29 utc | 1 Is he crazy, or does he think the Russians are too stupid to stop such production? Posted by: ossi | Dec 18 2024 16:35 utc | 2 @ossi | Dec 18 2024 16:35 utc | 1
He is an actor, he is playing the game of pretend. There is nothing else he can do. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 16:48 utc | 3 Posted by b on December 17, 2024 at 16:19 UTC | Permalink Posted by: snake | Dec 18 2024 16:54 utc | 4 Posted by: snake | Dec 18 2024 16:54 utc | 3 Posted by: Sticker | Dec 18 2024 17:12 utc | 5 Thomas Fazi at MROnline.org
Are the French and German governments are trying to avoid these overt measures of regime change to appease their US masters? Posted by: Keme | Dec 18 2024 17:13 utc | 6 This is crazy. Ukraine is the one not interested in any negotiations with Russia (Zelensky even said so). How does that make sense if they are supposedly on the losing side with hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded soldiers? And thousands more supposedly deserting? Posted by: bored | Dec 18 2024 17:23 utc | 7 Apparently (according to RT), Russia has an 80% divorce rate – on top of the declining birthrate. Posted by: jared | Dec 18 2024 17:24 utc | 8 “It’s a bloodbath” – Trump speaks of astronomical casualty figures in the Ukraine war Posted by: Newbie | Dec 18 2024 17:27 utc | 9 Posted by: bored | Dec 18 2024 17:23 utc | 6 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 17:34 utc | 10 An article at the Hedge reports the Pentagon as declaring many North Korean troops dead in an attack in Kursk. Has anyone else seen any discussion of this? Posted by: KevinB | Dec 18 2024 17:35 utc | 11 Do you have a link? The only bloodbath I could find from trump was on us industry “because borders” Posted by: ossi | Dec 18 2024 17:37 utc | 12 Here is Pepe’s Latest on Todays Strike on Rostov: Posted by: Pepe Escobar Writes | Dec 18 2024 17:39 utc | 13 @1 and @2 Posted by: paddy | Dec 18 2024 17:39 utc | 14 An article at the Hedge reports the Pentagon as declaring many North Korean troops dead in an attack in Kursk. Has anyone else seen any discussion of this? Posted by: ossi | Dec 18 2024 17:39 utc | 15 Dmitry Medvedev:
https://t.me/medvedev_telegramE/39 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 17:42 utc | 16 It’s unclear why supposedly informed commenters keep referring to the Z-man as a decider. Posted by: Chevrus | Dec 18 2024 17:42 utc | 17 Z wants the licenses and drawing to manufacture weapon bc Kiev has production capacity…. Absolutely not, making those things is hard for the U.S., EU! Posted by: ossi | Dec 18 2024 17:43 utc | 18 Apparently (according to RT), Russia has an 80% divorce rate – on top of the declining birthrate. Posted by: Salmon | Dec 18 2024 17:45 utc | 19 An article at the Hedge reports the Pentagon as declaring many North Korean troops dead in an attack in Kursk. Has anyone else seen any discussion of this? Posted by: Mary | Dec 18 2024 17:50 utc | 20 SCF Posted by: ld | Dec 18 2024 17:52 utc | 21 How America lost again!! Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 18:03 utc | 22 War definitely slowing down the last few days. There’s some pockets waiting to close, but I’m doubting the Russians can make up for the slow first half DEC. They’d need to do like ~45 kmsq/day for the rest of the month to equal the NOV pace. Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 18 2024 18:11 utc | 23 Posted by: jared | Dec 18 2024 17:24 utc | 7 Posted by: Mary | Dec 18 2024 18:13 utc | 24
https://t.me/InessaFromYoutube/7634 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 18:14 utc | 25 Posted by: KevinB | Dec 18 2024 17:35 utc | 10 Posted by: donten | Dec 18 2024 18:14 utc | 26 @Anonymous Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 27 keme@1713 Dec 18 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 18 2024 18:26 utc | 28 Posted by: Salmon | Dec 18 2024 17:45 utc | 18 Posted by: hopehely | Dec 18 2024 18:32 utc | 29 @Anonymous Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 18:34 utc | 30 I’m surprise the “DPKR soldiers” meme is still a thing. We all know what happened in South Korea right ? So, it don’t seems that useful to serve that bullshit anymore. Why persist ? Why the need of providing ever more suspicious proof Kim’s bad boys are in the hood ? Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 18 2024 18:37 utc | 31 Former Russian President Medvedev has blasted the vile b*stards at the English newspaper The Times – for praising the Neo-Nazi dictatorship that runs Ukraine, for killing the Russian General Igor Kirillov. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 18 2024 18:49 utc | 32 Afaik, Intel Slava Z is a Russia gov- backed site Posted by: rk | Dec 18 2024 18:56 utc | 33 “The UN General Assembly has approved a Russian-proposed resolution on combating the glorification of Nazism, despite opposition from Ukraine and a significant group of Western countries. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 34
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 35 There is a shift in tone in the EU media. We are now preparing for war. It is kind of a done deal is the mood. Posted by: alek_a | Dec 18 2024 19:07 utc | 36 Posted by: alek_a | Dec 18 2024 19:07 utc | 35 Posted by: hopehely | Dec 18 2024 19:12 utc | 37 Just over a month of British/Neocon games, and continued Russian territorial gains, left before Trump’s inauguration. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 18 2024 19:13 utc | 38
Posted by: alek_a | Dec 18 2024 19:07 utc | 35 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 19:22 utc | 39 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 33 Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 18 2024 19:23 utc | 40 Posted by: jared | Dec 18 2024 17:24 utc | 7 Posted by: Yasna39 | Dec 18 2024 20:01 utc | 41 @Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 19:22 utc | 38 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 18 2024 20:09 utc | 42 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 34 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 18 2024 20:14 utc | 43 It actually looks like NATO is using Ukraine to attrit Russia and it’s working. Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 18 2024 20:25 utc | 44 @ Roger Boyd | Dec 18 2024 20:09 utc | 41 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 20:49 utc | 45
Not even with (the presence of) US military bases on German soil? Posted by: joey_n | Dec 18 2024 20:56 utc | 46 Are you afraid or excited? Posted by: alek_a | Dec 18 2024 21:07 utc | 47 If Putin in the following days does not use ‘Oreshnik’ in response to the murder of the general of the defensive nuclear forces, to neutralize the “decisive” figures (not centers) and with a few bunker boosters to bring them to the surface of the earth, it will not be surprising that the next victim will be himself or someone around him. Posted by: Megatron | Dec 18 2024 21:40 utc | 48 it will not be surprising that the next victim will be himself or someone around him. Posted by: Pudding | Dec 18 2024 21:45 utc | 49 Posted by: Megatron | Dec 18 2024 21:40 utc | 48 Posted by: Macpott | Dec 18 2024 21:46 utc | 50 @Philly Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 21:51 utc | 51 Posted by: Mary | Dec 18 2024 18:13 utc | 23 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 21:58 utc | 52 Ukrainians are best prepared for the end of civilization thanks to a popular video game, Evgeny Karas has said Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 21:59 utc | 53 @ Philly | Dec 18 2024 21:48 utc | 51 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 22:01 utc | 54 What information is there with regard to use, or no use, of Russian special operations units? All input is appreciated. Posted by: Pavelowfan | Dec 18 2024 22:02 utc | 55 What Trump has to offer Russia is … the destruction of Nord Stream II Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 18 2024 22:08 utc | 56 Look, those europeans that truly believe that their values are superior to those of Russia … Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 22:08 utc | 57 Posted by: Pavelowfan | Dec 18 2024 22:02 utc | 56 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 22:09 utc | 58 Posted by: joey_n | Dec 18 2024 20:56 utc | 45 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 22:12 utc | 59 Military conflict with NATO in Europe within the next ten years. Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 22:14 utc | 60 @LoveDonbass Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 22:20 utc | 61 Re: ttps://t.me/medvedev_telegramE/39 Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 18 2024 22:22 utc | 62 @Trubind1 – The fact that you don’t see anything is not an indication that there is nothing there, but rather that it is not made obvious in order not to undermine operations through premature publication Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 22:29 utc | 63 Re: Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 22:29 utc | 64 Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 18 2024 22:31 utc | 64 Posted by: alek_a | Dec 18 2024 19:07 utc | 35 Posted by: Kiwi Anarchist | Dec 18 2024 22:33 utc | 65
Posted by: Philly | Dec 18 2024 22:30 utc | 65 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 22:38 utc | 66 In addition to what I already posted to the Kirillov thread: Philly | Dec 18 2024 22:40 utc | 69– An article at the Hedge reports the Pentagon as declaring many North Korean troops dead in an attack in Kursk. Has anyone else seen any discussion of this? Posted by: kupkee | Dec 18 2024 22:54 utc | 69 @ Philly | Dec 18 2024 23:03 utc | 75 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 23:08 utc | 70 @Philly Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 23:09 utc | 71 KevinB | Dec 18 2024 17:35 utc | 10 Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 18 2024 23:14 utc | 72 Anyway, I’m out for the night in my time zone, Brigade 77 has more sleep budget than me. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 23:18 utc | 73 So once Trump is inaugurated, do we see the gloves come off in Russia and Iran or do they keep holding out for diplomacy? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 23:31 utc | 74 Kellog, Trump’s appointed envoy to Ukraine says that the assassination of the RF General was “not a good idea, sort of not within the rules of war” !!! Lol. !!! Posted by: Englishman in NY | Dec 18 2024 23:31 utc | 75 I stopped doing the detailed analysis on map changes, since really things are moving slow enough that it’s not worth the time, to look at polygon by polygon. And I’m kind of getting bored by the UKR war itself. Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 18 2024 23:34 utc | 76 Daily DS map change: Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 18 2024 23:38 utc | 77 Jared @ 7, Salmon @ 18: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 18 2024 23:49 utc | 78 @karlof Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 18 2024 23:53 utc | 79 So the release of C19 in Wuhan by US in October 2019 could well be a Biden project and not Trump’s. Posted by: Surferket | Dec 18 2024 23:59 utc | 80 I think it likely that Russia will hold some in the security services of Ukraine responsible for the assassination. Which raises the question, which will be worse for those people, to be working in offices deep below ground, or to be assigned a spot in a run of the mill place above ground? Posted by: Babel-17 | Dec 19 2024 0:02 utc | 81 I’m surprised anyone hasn’t brought up the obvious question, was Putin involved in the assassination? It’s easy to blame ‘the west’ in order to distract attention away from the real perpatrators. Putin is certainly not averse to this kind of operation especially as a good will gest Posted by: Jason | Dec 19 2024 0:06 utc | 82 Don’t worry there are plenty of generals who know what Putin is really about, the traitor he is leading Russia to the abyss of defeat and disintegration. I am 100% certain that Putin was behind this assassination and he chose someone whose death would please the West. Posted by: Jason | Dec 19 2024 0:09 utc | 84 Posted by: wp007 | Dec 18 2024 18:03 utc | 21 Posted by: Milites | Dec 19 2024 0:11 utc | 85 Putin, Zelensky and NATO are all in cahoots in this war which is destroying East Slavic civilization, the only way Russia has a chance to survive is if Putin’s regime is overthrown. It can be done, in fact it is inevitable, the only people benefiting from this war are NATO.. Posted by: Jason | Dec 19 2024 0:12 utc | 86 Wilfred Owen Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 19 2024 0:18 utc | 87 Putin, Zelensky and NATO are all in cahoots in this war which is destroying East Slavic civilization, the only way Russia has a chance to survive is if Putin’s regime is overthrown. It can be done, in fact it is inevitable, the only people benefiting from this war are NATO.. Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 19 2024 0:19 utc | 88 I would not have believed in 2005 that by 2025 information was several magnitudes more restricted. Posted by: jopalolive | Dec 19 2024 0:28 utc | 89 Mary | Dec 18 2024 18:13 utc | 23– Posted by: donten | Dec 18 2024 18:14 utc | 25 Posted by: MG | Dec 19 2024 0:35 utc | 91 Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 18 2024 22:44 utc | 70 Posted by: Surferket | Dec 19 2024 0:38 utc | 92 Posted by: MG | Dec 19 2024 0:35 utc | 99 Posted by: Surferket | Dec 19 2024 0:42 utc | 93 Melaleuca | Dec 18 2024 23:53 utc | 85– Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 21:58 utc | 53 Posted by: Mary | Dec 19 2024 0:48 utc | 95 Wilfred Owen Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 19 2024 0:51 utc | 96 Russia still has 1,000 men (mostly), presumably single, joining the military daily. Posted by: Mary | Dec 19 2024 0:59 utc | 97 Mary | Dec 19 2024 0:59 utc | 105– Wilfred Owen Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 19 2024 1:14 utc | 100 |
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