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December 15, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-300
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Ukraine Weekly Update, 13th December 2024: Mat be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-d93 Posted by: The Busker | Dec 15 2024 14:00 utc | 1 NATO is being overwhelmed by North Koreans in Kursk. I heard it on the Military Summary Channel, so it must be true! Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 15 2024 14:36 utc | 2 This guy https://www.youtube.com/@W.H.I.P.S is posting some very good videos on the Ukraine war. He’s not a mapper or an anaylist but a journalist. I watched this one yesterday on the situation around Pokrosk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z5gQSFe4WY Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 15 2024 15:04 utc | 3 Continuing the comments in the last thread re Norway’s rising power costs due to the EEA we have this, I believe the highest before this was in 2022 at 900 euro. Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 15 2024 15:12 utc | 4 Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 15 2024 15:04 utc | 3 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 15:22 utc | 5 Two Russian oil tankers carrying large oil supplies sank in heavy seas off Crimea. Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 15:24 utc | 6 @ Cuero | Dec 15 2024 15:24 utc | 6 Posted by: boneless | Dec 15 2024 15:27 utc | 7 @ Cuero | Dec 15 2024 15:33 utc | 8 Posted by: boneless | Dec 15 2024 15:34 utc | 9 Boneless@1524 Dec 15 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 15 2024 15:36 utc | 10 Looks like another sabotage attack on the TCC pres-gang offices:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/dnepropetrovshchina/1734187012-u-dnipri-prolunav-vibuh-e-zagibliy-ta-poraneni-sered-nih-politseyski (via translation add-on.)
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/dnepropetrovshchina/1734212683-terakt-bilya-budivli-ttsk-u-dnipri-pravoohorontsi-zatrimali-pidrivnika (via translation add-on with [edits].) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 15:50 utc | 11 NATO is being overwhelmed by North Koreans in Kursk. I heard it on the Military Summary Channel, so it must be true! Posted by: Ed | Dec 15 2024 16:02 utc | 12 Dilemma facing the empire. Economic hit against Russia has limitations because of Chinese backing. Military move against China again limited by Russian backing. 3, HB: Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 15 2024 16:14 utc | 14 Let’s suppose we are in 2026. War is over; Russia has won the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine; the US has dumped what is left of Ukraine in Europe’s lap. The European Union, with a shrinking German economy and increasingly unpopular governments, has limited funds available. How do we get the basics – water, housing, heating, electricity – up and running in Ukraine? Indeed, does the European Union have enough resources to rebuild Ukraine? Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 16:16 utc | 15 Posted by: Ed | Dec 15 2024 16:02 utc | 12 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 15 2024 16:21 utc | 16 Yes, cuero, highly likely, the last blow was it. You should write for Völkischer Beobachter. Definitevly, Operation Spring Awakening 1945 would be the best period for your agitprop, or strategic communication skills. Posted by: Josef Schweik | Dec 15 2024 16:23 utc | 17 “Mad” magazine would have been the ideal choice, but they went out of the game several years ago. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Dec 15 2024 16:24 utc | 18 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 16:16 utc | 15 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 16:32 utc | 19 Two Russian oil tankers carrying large oil supplies sank in heavy seas off Crimea. Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 15 2024 16:34 utc | 21 My assumption is that Ukraine will be denied NATO membership to keep Russia happy, but given EU membership, to keep Ukraine happy. Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 15 2024 16:36 utc | 22 How do we get the basics – water, housing, heating, electricity – up and running in Ukraine? Indeed, does the European Union have enough resources to rebuild Ukraine? Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 15 2024 16:42 utc | 23 How do we get the basics – water, housing, heating, electricity – up and running in Ukraine? Indeed, does the European Union have enough resources to rebuild Ukraine? Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 15 2024 16:49 utc | 24 “Two Russian oil tankers carrying large oil supplies sank in heavy seas off Crimea.” Posted by: MAKK | Dec 15 2024 16:54 utc | 25 My assumption is that Ukraine will be denied NATO membership to keep Russia happy, but given EU membership, to keep Ukraine happy. Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Dec 15 2024 17:00 utc | 26
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/12/15/a-tanker-with-fuel-oil-is-in-distress-near-the-kerch-strait Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 17:02 utc | 27 OMG, two oil tankers sank, Putin will never recorded his reputation. Meanwhile in Wisconsin 2,000 barrels spilled on the ground because of a faulty valve at a pumping station. Clearly the US’s decline is unstoppable at this point. Posted by: Lex | Dec 15 2024 17:04 utc | 28 Posted by: Ed | Dec 15 2024 16:02 utc | 12 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 17:09 utc | 29 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 15 2024 14:36 utc | 2 Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 15 2024 17:10 utc | 30 Also this from Interfax: https://www.interfax.ru/russia/997773 (via translation add-on.)
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 17:10 utc | 31 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 16:16 utc | 15 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 17:16 utc | 32 OT: Anyone else here getting worked-over by You Tube and its Googs ownership and control? Two “lessons” have been imposed on me. In the first instance, You Tube and YT only, has engineered a drop off in volume on all their presentations. Likely reason for that is to get folks to sign up for their “Premium” service. In other words, the bass-turds are not satisfied with watchers/listeners being obliged to listen to fukkin advertising during a number of podcasts. Irritating as hell, cus on accounta the fact that I do not need to sit in front of the screen and can be in the other room doing what needs to be done while catching the audio. Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 15 2024 17:22 utc | 33 And I know it’s off -topic, but just to show that sh*t can happen anywhere: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyk3pyp7yno
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 17:31 utc | 34 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 15 2024 17:22 utc | 33 Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 15 2024 17:36 utc | 36 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 17:16 utc | 32 Posted by: Proctor Buell-Nepis | Dec 15 2024 17:44 utc | 37 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 15 2024 17:22 utc | 33 Posted by: hh | Dec 15 2024 17:45 utc | 38 Judged by the quality of troll responses to my accurate post, the degradation of Putin’s Russia since the Ukrainian invasion is matched and perhaps exceeded by the comments on this blog. Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 17:47 utc | 39
the quality of the nafo trolls is abysmally low. must be one of those DEI hires we so often here about. Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 15 2024 17:50 utc | 40 “It appears that Trump will be the key to Putin’s redemption if he can swing a peace deal that allows Russia to keep the Donbas and Crimea as valuable spoils of war.” Posted by: Ed | Dec 15 2024 18:21 utc | 42 @aristodemos | Dec 15 2024 17:22 utc | 33
I never log into YT and view YT videos only using Brave Browser and experience none of the issues you mention. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 15 2024 18:23 utc | 43 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 17:47 utc | 39 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 18:34 utc | 44
Up here in the North Sea we don’t even need bad weather to sink ships: Posted by: MAKK | Dec 15 2024 18:39 utc | 45 Ed Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 18:40 utc | 46 Cuero Posted by: kupkee | Dec 15 2024 18:47 utc | 47 Cuero 6 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 15 2024 18:48 utc | 48 What appears to you to be an attack on Putin to you is a brief recitation of facts. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Dec 15 2024 18:49 utc | 49 There is a specific vocabulary propagandists use exclusively on this forum, making them trivial to spot for the usual crew, whatever nickname they swap to. They don’t even make an effort, it’s embarrassing, really. Posted by: boneless | Dec 15 2024 18:50 utc | 50 Colonel Cassad warns of new Ukrainian offensives into Russian territory in the style of the Kursk Raid. Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 15 2024 18:57 utc | 51 Just looking at Ukraine’s electricity grid: there has not been significant investment since USSR times (1991). Because of damage during the war, the grid will have to be more or less completely rebuilt. Correct me if I’m wrong. Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 19:00 utc | 52 As down south continues MIA Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 19:03 utc | 53 Posted by: james | Dec 13 2024 18:44 utc | 78 Posted by: snake | Dec 15 2024 19:08 utc | 54 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 19:00 utc | 52 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 19:08 utc | 55 Colonel Cassad warns of new Ukrainian offensives into Russian territory in the style of the Kursk Raid. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 19:08 utc | 56 And a rare event lately (didn’t know they still had them), with a mig29, a patriot radar and 4 patriot launchers… not a bad day Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 19:09 utc | 57 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 15:24 utc | 6
So beautifully crafted sentences, like flown from the pen of Jane Austen. Rich, poetic, strong, and sophisticated. Posted by: hopehely | Dec 15 2024 19:13 utc | 58 interesting to read from the nafo trolls that it is always russia that needs to stop so that there can be peace. Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 15 2024 19:20 utc | 59 Kupkee Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 19:21 utc | 60 Hey james, why can’t you write like this? Posted by: TJandTheBear | Dec 15 2024 19:21 utc | 61 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 19:21 utc | 60 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 19:36 utc | 62 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 18:40 utc | 46
Ok, so you do not like Putin, fine. Who would do like to replace him? Dmitri Medvedev or Yolanda Navalnaya? Posted by: hopehely | Dec 15 2024 19:48 utc | 63 Remember, Belarus is going to be joining the Federation in a few years Posted by: Zargo | Dec 15 2024 19:49 utc | 64 Am I bad for finding this funny:
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 19:53 utc | 65 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 17:47 utc | 39 Posted by: Milites | Dec 15 2024 20:00 utc | 66 Posted by: Zargo | Dec 15 2024 19:49 utc | 64 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 20:12 utc | 67 936 euros per MWh – electricity prices in Germany, which broke a historical record! Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 15 2024 20:27 utc | 68 There certainly isn’t any objective evidence of any NK troops but that doesn’t stop the sensationalist blathering. Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 15 2024 20:30 utc | 69 Up here in the North Sea we don’t even need bad weather to sink ships: Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2024 20:35 utc | 70 Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 15 2024 20:27 utc | 68 Posted by: Milites | Dec 15 2024 20:38 utc | 71 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 19:53 utc | 65 Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2024 20:40 utc | 72 was talking about the Union State which both leaders have been very public about. Posted by: Zargo | Dec 15 2024 20:47 utc | 73 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 19:53 utc | 65 Posted by: james | Dec 15 2024 20:55 utc | 74 @Naive | Dec 15 2024 20:35 utc | 70 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 21:06 utc | 75 Apparently today/yesterday was a strong day in kursk, after days and weeks at 200, back at 400. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:10 utc | 76 Posted by: Zargo | Dec 15 2024 20:47 utc | 73 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2024 21:15 utc | 77 Gilbert credits Orban with de-escalation in Ukraine:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 15 2024 21:16 utc | 78 Not helped by the recent storms wrecking solar panels and wind turbines that the UK Gvt. has ideologically decided are the future for sustainable energy production. Posted by: Oldhand | Dec 15 2024 21:18 utc | 79 @Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:10 utc | 76 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 21:24 utc | 80 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2024 16:16 utc | 15 Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 15 2024 21:25 utc | 81 Cuero…. isn’t that the name of a character in a Stephen King movie about a mad St. Bernard? Maybe some attempt to connect with B? Whatever…. Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Dec 15 2024 21:32 utc | 82 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 21:24 utc | 80 Posted by: boneless | Dec 15 2024 21:33 utc | 83 Compared to this, from John Helmer:
Upon giving Dances With Bears a close, careful reading, I’m really getting tired of such a thin gruel. Helmer keeps setting off my bullshit-o-meter. On his account, the General Staff keeps issuing ever more stern warnings to President Putin, such as “The General Staff and GRU warned Putin that Erdogan and Netanyahu could not be trusted…” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 15 2024 21:33 utc | 84 @Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:10 utc | 76 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:34 utc | 85 ******* Passerby @15 Posted by: Jerr | Dec 15 2024 21:40 utc | 86 AFU has certain brigades conspicuously missing from the contact line. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:40 utc | 87 There is a specific vocabulary propagandists use exclusively on this forum, making them trivial to spot for the usual crew, whatever nickname they swap to. They don’t even make an effort, it’s embarrassing, really. Posted by: Proctor Buell-Nepis | Dec 15 2024 21:40 utc | 88 I wonder how much he [Dima] was paid to sacrifice his objectivity and good name for the imperialist. Posted by: Wtf | Dec 15 2024 21:47 utc | 89 I am indebted to a poster at Smoothies for this gem:
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 21:53 utc | 90 Posted by: Cuero | Dec 15 2024 15:24 utc | 6 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 15 2024 21:57 utc | 91 US and Uk and the rest of NATO just took down the RF ally in Syria and are now actively attempting to destabilize Georgia and Serbia. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 15 2024 22:00 utc | 92 Dima says that troops from North Korea are conducting active combat operations in the Kursk region. Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 15 2024 22:02 utc | 93 For Those Who Remember Posted by: Jerr | Dec 15 2024 22:03 utc | 94 @Liolia Paluzas | Sun, 15 Dec 2024 17:00:00 GMT | 26
Only one. NATO must select new members unanimously. I think it’s the same with the EU. Posted by: James M. | Dec 15 2024 22:07 utc | 95 Ukraine’s military leadership has changed the commander of the Donetsk tactical group amid Russia’s continued advance toward the city of Pokrovsk in southwestern Donbass. The replacement of General Alexander Lutsenko was announced on Friday by Ukrainian MP Mariana Bezuglaya on Telegram. Posted by: wp007 | Dec 15 2024 22:08 utc | 96
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2024 21:34 utc | 85 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 22:11 utc | 97 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 21:24 utc | 80 Posted by: Milites | Dec 15 2024 22:27 utc | 98 Passerby @15 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 15 2024 22:28 utc | 99 And I apologise for posting too much in this thread but just one more word: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 15 2024 22:28 utc | 100 |
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