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December 5, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-291

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Ramzan Kadyrov has arrived at the front and is personally interrogating Ukrainian prisoners. He is said to have offered one of them a pistol to shoot himself. Great.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 5 2024 8:16 utc | 1

I guess great NATO + miserable ukrops chickened out with the firing of missiles deep inside Russia, as I haven’t heard of any such firing of missiles deep inside Russia despite much talk and bravado. They are now just sending a few (35) pitiful drones to Rostov, Kursk, Bryansk, Belgorod, Ryazan, Kaluga, and Astrakhan, which is lame and weak. Oreshnikphobia?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 8:28 utc | 2

They are now just sending a few (35) pitiful drones to Rostov, Kursk, Bryansk, Belgorod, Ryazan, Kaluga, and Astrakhan, which is lame and weak. Oreshnikphobia?
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 8:28 utc | 2
It could be just probing attacks until they gather enough missiles for a larger attack. There was an american drone circling above Georgia a week ago or so, it could be picking potential targets in the rear, either Rybar or Dva majors reported on it iirc.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Dec 5 2024 8:51 utc | 3

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
That guy is an extremist. But why? He says that Ukraine must win the war at any cost.
Can anybody from The Netherlands explain about him.

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 4

@Salmon
Not Dutch, but German. All Dutch politicians are like Ratte.
Many forgot that the Netherlands were as evil colonialists as the British.

Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 5 2024 9:15 utc | 5

There must be a reason why Mark Rutte is so mad.

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:18 utc | 6

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 6

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Posted by: too scents | Dec 5 2024 9:25 utc | 7

US journalist Tucker’s interview with Lavrov to be published early on Dec. 6 — diplomat
Maria Zakharova earlier said that the interview with Russia’s top diplomat turned out to be “very interesting” and it included questions regarding the present-day relations with the United States, Ukraine as well as other issues
MOSCOW, December 5. /TASS/. US journalist Tucker Carlson’s interview with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will be published in the early hours of December 6, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.
“This interview with Sergey [Lavrov] will be published during the night between today and tomorrow,” she said.
Zakharova earlier said that the interview with Russia’s top diplomat turned out to be “very interesting” and it included questions regarding the present-day relations with the United States, Ukraine as well as other issues.
US journalist Tucker Carlson arrived in Moscow earlier in the month with the aim of talking to the Russian foreign minister. Tucker stressed that Lavrov is “the most experienced foreign minister in the world.”
Early this year, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a two-hour interview to Carlson and it was published on February 8. Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov said back then that Putin achieved the main goal of the interview to break through the information blockade in the West and be heard.
https://tass.com/politics/1882555

Posted by: Menz | Dec 5 2024 9:31 utc | 8

So maybe i missed some, but theres awfully low news about “protests against the putin regime“ since russia was cut off from swift.
Coincidence?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 5 2024 10:14 utc | 9

” Coincidence?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 5 2024 10:14 utc | 12″
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No coincidence at all …
… Given the never-ending torrent of anti-Russian propaganda that we face every day in UK.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Dec 5 2024 10:25 utc | 10

While things seem to be going well in Ukraine, the news isn’t so good from Syria and Georgia.
Are the two related, do people think? Are the US trying to strike at Russian interests/allies BECAUSE they’re losing in Ukraine, or would this have happened anyway?
I assume someone’s already posted this bleak BBC report from Kursk, but just in case:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4x9gz4ylwo
Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents. They spoke of rewards – drones or extra leave – being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier. “It’s very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest,” Pavlo noted sarcastically. “Especially if he’s not here.”
My general impression is that the closer you get to the Ukrainian front lines, the bleaker the outlook, and vice versa. The soldiers there think they’re wasting their lives and time, the think-tankers in Kiev are more upbeat.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 5 2024 10:35 utc | 11

“There must be a reason why Mark Rutte is so mad.”
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:18 utc | 8
Rutte is mad because he realizes Trump will pull out of Ukraine as NATO becomes impotent and, as such, so s does this ignorant Nazi- politically, militarily and economically.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 5 2024 11:08 utc | 12

My general impression is that the closer you get to the Ukrainian front lines, the bleaker the outlook, and vice versa. The soldiers there think they’re wasting their lives and time, the think-tankers in Kiev are more upbeat.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 5 2024 10:35 utc | 14
Zelensky’s adviser Dmitry Litvin in his response to a comment in X said “No one is preparing any mobilization of 18-year-olds.” Thus I am expecting Ukraine to start mobilizing them soon, before Jan 20.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Dec 5 2024 11:28 utc | 13

Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started. This is only propaganda invented for multiple reasons. One is to suck money out of EU at a much higher rate, another is to create the idea that Trump is emperor of the planet and everything depends on him alone and which side of the bed he sees in the morning. Another is to send 18yo and refugees to war and the Eurolosers in unemployment which will be blamed on Russia so in 5-10 years they’ll volunteer to fight themselves. The offended sausage, the guy who gives them free money every day, again said that Ukr refugees must work or go back. Some of these losers will end in Syria too.

Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 14

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 6
If Nato goes downsouth Rutte will have to start working and, IMO, he is barely qualified to clean animal manure in a farm.

Posted by: Mario | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 15

@rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 18

Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started.

Not defending Trump, but facts are facts. The war in Ukraine started in 2013/2014 with the Maidan ‘revolution’ directed by Victoria Nuland/Geoffrey Pyatt under Obama.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 5 2024 12:00 utc | 16

Reminder, recording from early 2014
Recorded conversation between Asst. Sec. of State Victoria Nuland and Amb. Jeffery Pyatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoW75J5bnnE

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 5 2024 12:04 utc | 17

“Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started.”
Trump was steering Imperial warmongering back in 2014 and before? Amazing!
You TDS freaks are retarded.
I can see how Trump’s looming Presidency has you TDS losers terrified, though. If he does bring about the end of the war somehow, you TDS clowns will look even more like shit than you already do. Shit squared, as it were.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 5 2024 12:05 utc | 18

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5022584-kellogg-special-envoy-ukraine/
The warmongers love Kellogg. Russia is failing everywhere and desperate and so on. So, I’m guessing Trump goes exactly nowhere on Ukraine, as I think he will on most everything diplomatic. And economic,too. He can fire off a few executive orders but Congress votes are razor thin so that’s that.

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 5 2024 12:19 utc | 19

Not defending Trump, but facts are facts. The war in Ukraine started in 2013/2014 with the Maidan ‘revolution’ directed by Victoria Nuland/Geoffrey Pyatt under Obama.
Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 5 2024 12:00 utc | 20

Yup. Though the EU was also complicit.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/26/robert-parry-the-mess-that-nuland-made/

Posted by: jure | Dec 5 2024 12:25 utc | 20

this is bullshit, where’s the south korea thread
j/k

Posted by: paquo | Dec 5 2024 12:31 utc | 21

You TDS freaks are retarded.
@ William Gruff | Dec 5 2024 12:05 utc | 22
I think your doctor has to adjust your medication. Do you hit your mommy when you feel anger?
Trumpy was the first provider of unlimited weapons. First Russians killed by US weapons and the only former president who publicly stated he would have bombed Moscow.

Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 12:50 utc | 22

“Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started.”
Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 18
Exactly. Trump has no moral compass and by this time he’s wholly owned by the deep state. The videos they must have! .

Posted by: elmagnostic | Dec 5 2024 12:51 utc | 23

jure 24
“Yup. Though the EU was also complicit”
The EU was complicit in consenting to be fkuced by Victoria Nuland

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 5 2024 12:56 utc | 24

“Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started.”
Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 18
Exactly. Trump has no moral compass and by this time he’s wholly owned by the deep state. The videos they must have! .
Posted by: elmagnostic | Dec 5 2024 12:51 utc | 27
If there were tapes of Trump he would not be president-elect.

Posted by: thomas j cahill | Dec 5 2024 13:14 utc | 25

Oh RK and Elmagonostic. This is and always will be seen as a Democrat war. Started by Obama. Lost by Biden.
Spin it any way you can.

Posted by: Inevitabllity | Dec 5 2024 13:24 utc | 26

If there were tapes of Trump he would not be president-elect.
Posted by: thomas j cahill | Dec 5 2024 13:14 utc | 25

Initiation Rituals separate “one of us” from “one of them”. Jeopardy of a compromising incident being exposed is an essential element of practically all rituals.
Nobody advances without winning at truth or dare.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 5 2024 13:32 utc | 27

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/04/us/politics/russian-general-call.html
Russian General Calls U.S. Chairman of Joint Chiefs
In a highly unusual call, the two men “discussed a number of global and regional security issues, to include the ongoing conflict in Ukraine,” a spokesman said.
I do not understand why Russia still talks to US army.

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 13:33 utc | 28

Posted by: Inevitabllity | Dec 5 2024 13:24 utc | 26
##############
Ukraine shelled Donbas and rebuilt its army with massive aid from NATO through the Trump years, if people like Jacques Baud are to be believed (and I do believe them).

Posted by: a stone | Dec 5 2024 13:36 utc | 29

Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 14
I think you’re right about this.
Also, when Ukrainian officials said that they have nothing to do with Syria that’s actually the proof that they really have.

Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 5 2024 13:40 utc | 30

Lawdy mama, what happened to critical thinking skills around here? We need to bring back RSH to smack you all back to reality.
Project Ukraine predates Obama, it goes way, way back. We’re talking the 1950s. Blaming it on Trump is hilarious, honest, rk, I thought you were smarter than that. You’ve shown your true chimp colors.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 5 2024 14:07 utc | 31

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 13:33 utc | 28

I do not understand why Russia still talks to US army.

Maybe because they are not offended teenage girls?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 14:07 utc | 32

Oh RK and Elmagonostic. This is and always will be seen as a Democrat war. Started by Obama. Lost by Biden.
Spin it any way you can.
Posted by: Inevitabllity | Dec 5 2024 13:24 utc | 26
I think the point they were making is that Trump was in power between those two, and didn’t do anything except continue along the same path. In fact, didn’t he increase military aid to Ukraine ?
Trump may well pull out of Ukraine – its what America does once its sucked its ‘friends’ dry – but if he does, it’ll only be to move resources to another war.
I’m beginning to wonder if its worth buying a 2025 calendar – I’m increasingly getting the feeling that I’ll not get full use out of it.

Posted by: Red Star | Dec 5 2024 14:08 utc | 33

@ thomas j cahill | Dec 5 2024 13:14 utc | 25
>> If there were tapes of Trump he would not be president-elect.
I suggest the exact opposite proposition: TPTB never promote or cast anyone in any leading role without a vetting process that includes (a) blackmail material (especially that which can be used “legally” in lawfare rather than extrajudicially) and (b) their practical consent to the arrangement, even if they do not and can not precisely anticipate what that means in the future. The earlier in life you join the club of vetted people, the higher you might rise.
“b” is just as important as “a”, because it reduces surprises.
Think of it as a mafia.

Posted by: I forgot | Dec 5 2024 14:12 utc | 34

Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 14

Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started.

Obviously false premises. But your prediction may hold for other reasons other than your false premises. But not really, the loss of treasure and gear in the Ukraines is way too big for such meager returns, if there are any returns at all (Russian economy growing and war going well for them).
So my guess is that the new admin will dump ukrops to their fate though they have to find a way to do it in not a much overt manner. It will take time to design a minimally face-saving withdrawal.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 14:18 utc | 35

Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 13:33 utc | 28
Military always speak behind the scenes. It’s actually strange that this is disclosed to ordinary people so I think we can call it bullshit.

Posted by: Mario | Dec 5 2024 14:20 utc | 36

Trump was never ”properly” vetted, nor did the establishment get adequate blackmail material on him because he was never supposed to win in 2016. Not having an effective handle on Trump is a major reason the Establishment shat bricks so spectacularly back in 2016, and continued that impressive brick-shit spray up to the present. It is why they have already tried to assassinate him twice.
There was supposed to be no way for Trump to win. He was only intended as a foil to make Shillary look good. No need to vet a bit player whose role was supposed to end in November of 2016.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 5 2024 14:28 utc | 37

“Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive!”
Woke, sexual deviant, with no sense of procreation and no skin in the game?
And most likely a psychopath too. Politics seem to draw this type of person like a fly to – well you can guess what.

Posted by: g wiltek | Dec 5 2024 14:28 utc | 38

Posted by: Mario | Dec 5 2024 14:20 utc | 36

Military always speak behind the scenes. It’s actually strange that this is disclosed to ordinary people so I think we can call it bullshit.

Hi Mario. It isn’t BS. The call happened on Nov. 27th and the purpose was to inform about missiles being launched close to US vessels in the Med. Just professional talks between powerful military.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 14:32 utc | 39

Trump’s typical scheme to get out of a deal is to demand too high a price for the other side to pay, then blame the collapse of the deal on the other side’s failure to pay up. It is how he hopes to get out of Korea in addition to NATO.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 5 2024 14:35 utc | 40

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 14:32 utc | 39
Not what nyt was pretending in the article.
A call announcing an exercise launch is exactly the military speaking behind the scenes.
Nyt article bullshit.

Posted by: Mario | Dec 5 2024 14:36 utc | 41

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 6

Have been writing about Mark and his VVD party for over 15 years …
JOVD chair young conservatives … excellent career planning from Royal Shell to Politics The Hague and a long planned policy to become NATO chief to great detriment of the Dutch citizens … left the country in social chaos. Kicked the can down the road for over a decade.
Great Anglophile … love for Boris Johnson … and Donald Trump … had same Covid-19 initiative of “herd immunity” in March 2020. Had hoped for NeXit in 2016 to go along with BreXit.
VVD roots of Frits Bolkestein – Rita Verdonk – Geert Wilders – Ayaan Hirsi Ali … as deputy minister was convicted for racism/discrimination … always the line creating war in Middle East to exploit the mass war refugees fleeing the region … love for Meloni and other populists to block asylum seekers. Used a fake argument to end Rutte IV in order to run for his goal of NATO Secretary General.
Is more hardnosed than former NATO commander Breedlove … he was a creep.
NATO’s Mark Rutte Beating the War Drums ☹
See the close links to the Pentagon and the White House of VP Joe Biden in the aftermath of the MH-17 accidental downing. Malaysia had boots on the ground with hours, Rutte delayed activity until Pentagon approval … lasted weeks. Parroting all the White House talking points. Lived in The Hague … too close for comfort.
PS Taiwan or Formosa used to be part of the VOC empire.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 5 2024 14:50 utc | 42

Posted by: Mario | Dec 5 2024 14:36 utc | 41
Yeah I don’t read the NYT, just wanted to point out the call was real, but surely you’re right and the Jew Pork Times was spinning these news in some untowardly manner as they are wont to do.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 5 2024 15:01 utc | 43

Current Kursk 05.012.24
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Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress made in repelling the attempted invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of December 5, 2024)
– Units of the Forces Group North defeated formations of four mechanized, heavy mechanized, tank, three air assault brigades, as well as two territorial defense brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Viktorovka, Kazachya Loknya, Lebedevka, Leonidovo, Malaya Loknya, Nizhny Klin, Nikolaevo-Daryino, Nikolsky, Novaya Sorochina, Novoivanovka, Plekhovo and Sverdlikovo.
— Attacks by operational-tactical and military aviation and artillery fire hit enemy personnel and equipment in the areas of the settlements of Alexandria, Guevo, Zaoleshenka, Kolmakov, Martynovka, Pravda and Cherkasskoye Porechnoye, as well as Basovka, Belovody, Zhuravka and Loknya of the Sumy region.
— During the day, the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces amounted to more than 300 servicemen. Three tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, three armored combat vehicles, five vehicles, one electronic warfare station and five mortars were destroyed.
In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 38,235 military personnel, 232 tanks, 168 infantry fighting vehicles, 123 armored personnel carriers, 1,228 armored fighting vehicles, 1,087 vehicles, 308 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, 11 HIMARS and six US-made MLRS, 13 launchers anti-aircraft missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 72 electronic warfare stations, 13 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 27 engineering and other equipment units, including 13 engineering obstacle clearance vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance installation, as well as six armored evacuation vehicles for repair equipment and one command and control vehicle.

Posted by: ossi | Dec 5 2024 16:00 utc | 44

@ William Gruff | Dec 5 2024 14:28 utc | 37 // 40
thanks william.. so you think trump is going to pull a rabbit out of the hat?? the security officials are more likely to shoot him if he were to do that..

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 16:21 utc | 45

Dedicated to the brave soldiers of Russia .
https://indi.ca/zhukovs-revenge-world-war-ii-all-over-again/

Posted by: hole in head | Dec 5 2024 16:26 utc | 46

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated yesterday no Ukronazi aid packages will be considered until after DJT complete a complete policy review….after 1/21/25
No new ammo, no new cash for the corrupt scammers in Kieve…….Volo’s days are now numbered in the single digits………..either its the a CIA/MI6 cap, or a permanent trip to Haifa, Nassau or Miami Beach, or a coup from the Azov Brigade…..take you pick !!!!!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 5 2024 16:53 utc | 47

All the US has to offer is Coke or Pepsi, but never fresh spring mountain water which is what we all need. Biden or Trump, same toxic crap, the difference is that Biden is a lot creepier, pedophile, useless maggot all his long life feeding on cadavers rotten flesh, his boss the race traitor Obomba said it all, don’t underestimate Brandon’s power to fuck up anything he touches, an inverted Midas touch, or something like that. Caligula, Nero, and all the decadent characters that impressed me so much during history lessons in high school are rookies compared to those inhuman, tasteless, cruel beings.

Posted by: Paco | Dec 5 2024 16:54 utc | 48

@ james | Dec 5 2024 16:21 utc | 45
With less risk and cost to themselves, TPTB want to embroil more of EU in war and certainly for them to “pay for their own defense / stupidity”. The script calls for an actor like Trump whom the Madcow TDS superspreaders and regional EUstan governors alike will blame for leaving them “no choice but to fight on our own against Putler”.
While some Trump voters will see it as continuation of a war they opposed, the “TDS type 2” cohort will see it as “more proof” that TPTB and Trump oppose one another.
The beat goes on.

Posted by: I forgot | Dec 5 2024 17:42 utc | 49

I’m a little concerned about Kellogg as envoy to UKR. (A little. Not as bad as Hegseth for SECDEF.)
Looking at his bio, I’m unimpressed with his academic background. I doubt he speaks a foreign language. (Don’t know for sure.)
He is 80 years old, which is sort of plus and minus. At least he has experience from VN to now. Presumably he is not ambitious any more.
He seems like a straight shooter. Saying that Trump did nothing wrong on the Z phone call. But also disclosing that Trump did not intervene to stop the Capital riot.
In general, I’m concerned about flag officers as you typically have to be political and a sycophant to get those positions. It’s not like they pick the smartest guys. You really want a smart individual contributor for a tricky role like this. Not a guy who’s navigated up the US military promotion system, but doesn’t really know the foreign world well.
I was hoping they would pick that really old ambassador (can’t recall the name) who has been on some YT videos explaining how NATO expansion was viewed by Russia. That fellow had several languages and a deep knowledge of past events…could see him holding his own with Russian chess masters or Ukranian thugs.
Kellogg is probably not as intellectually limited as Franks or Flynn. But I’d bet he just got picked because Trump remains too impressed with generals (and TV talkers, and height) rather than with shrewd operators.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 5 2024 17:42 utc | 50

this is bullshit, where’s the south korea thread
j/k
Posted by: paquo | Dec 5 2024 12:31 utc | 21
I see two South Korea threads on the front page. The later one is at the link below
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/12/south-korea-president-launches-putsch-against-parliament.html#more

Posted by: acementhead | Dec 5 2024 17:53 utc | 51

Some of the posters around here are not the kind of folks I’d want on my team. Prone to panic, anger, and cowards.
The reality is that the developments in Syria are a sign that project Ukraine is coming to an end. The Azov Nazis made a rational decision to leave the sinking ship in Kiev and are now plying their trade in the ME and Africa. It’s diaspora time.
They’ve developed some skills they can market. Those skills are no longer useful in Ukraine, because Russia has adapted and knows how to effectively kill them.
Assad is a weaker adversary they can pick on. But let’s see what happens over the next few weeks. They have no air support. And Iran hasn’t shown their hand, yet.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 5 2024 17:57 utc | 52

It is critical for itself and the world that the USA start to participate as from the perspective of honesty and respect. This means among other things respecting international court rulings. Military usage must become like all other countries a function of self defense not a primary negotiating tool.
This is reality based. The reality is all economys are interconnected now. War on any large economy is war on all economys.
That the USA oligarchs outsourced all its technology manufacturing and technology is indeed unfortunate. China is not to blame for that. China however must start to look at the situation from the perspective of interconnected economys too. That is a secondary concern the primary concern is USA use of military force and covert actions as a primary economic negotiating tool. The path to this is unclear but in my opinion it is the key to the start of a new world of peace and prosperity. If learning is not occurring the result is pain. Stupidity can be characterized by the acceptance of ever increasing pain with no changes in behavior.
The sad part is we have plenty of individuals with skills that are not scared of genuine interaction. The decision to start to interact competitively but sans military force could start today. Picks like Kellog as representatives guarantee it doesn’t. The so called leaders grow ever worse with people unable to criticize their team. Neither red or blue represent a path forward and justice and the 1% turnout for stein indicates learning is very far away even if she was not the best choice. Stein was the best choice however because the primary block to progress is USAs use of covert and military force. The left renains unable to intake the truth that the war in Ukraine was started by the despicable Biden in 2014. The right seems able to accept a genocide contrary to all American values in Palestine. These fundamental beliefs guarantee no change. The status quo of the past can not occur.
Trump seems to have appointed some good minds to domestic appointments. While much needed the primary problem and greatest risk is the use of military force and covert actions to create economic prosperity. If the choice was mutually exclusive my choice both for the good of the USA and the world would have been the opposite. Appointees capable of learning and adopting for international appointments and the status quo for domestic appointments. Of course why not learning and adapting for all positions as this if based in sound assessment is the basis of strength itself. The false thesis is exceptionalism is strength. Exceptionalism abandons the idea of learning and growth as the bestest ever is already present and unmalleable. This idea as the USA clearly falls behind in multiple arenas is the epitomy of ignorance and self deception.
The fundamental problem with MAGA is the “again” asserts all is needed is a return to the status quo of the past. While imposing the facist woke template is quite insane simply using the past hedgmony as a template is also not reality based. What a terrible shame that the Woke facism is the only template for change and the anly alternative is presented as return to the status quo!
Appropriate change begins with the first step. As long as team based behavior dominates there can be no change. The USA is a unique country with both great abilities and flaws. It could start appropriate learning this very minute but it refuses to learn and understand truth. I was born in the USA. I have lived all over the world. There are many fantastic places in the world each with merits and flaws. I am a son of this nation I was born here and I will die here. I love its ruralness and its freedom and I can not live any other way.
How learning and growth can occur for the USA remains elusive. The American people seem unable to break the chains of the MIC uniparty its primary function military force and its banker owners. Unable to even accept their fellow citizens and neighbors. I see increasing pain and the possibility of catastrophe ahead.
In my experience this is how life goes. That first step is there right now. Opportunity is present right now. Yet if that first step is not taken the growth it represents is nothing. Unrealized potential is zero it has no value.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 5 2024 18:09 utc | 53

52 – I take a little (grim) comfort from the fact that the Turkish government’s mask has dropped. Erdoğan says nasty things about Israel but the schoolyard adage about sticks and stones is strangely just as valid in international politics.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 5 2024 18:15 utc | 54

“It’s cold to the point of impossibility”: Zelensky’s hometown is freezing and Russia has nothing to do with it
About 130 thousand residents of Krivoy Rog, where Vladimir Zelensky was born and grew up, have been living without heating for the second month. There is no heat in two thousand apartment buildings, in dozens of schools and hospitals. And the retaliatory strikes of the Russian army have nothing to do with this. The authorities and companies were not ready for the heating season.
“The warmest place in the apartment of Victoria Petrushenko, a resident of Krivoy Rog, is the kitchen. There, the temperature sometimes rises to +12 degrees when a woman cooks something on a gas stove. In other rooms, the average temperature is + 9 degrees,” the BBC Ukrainian service reports.
“It’s cold to the point of impossible. I can’t get warm. Laundry does not dry at all. It is impossible to wash in such cold,” said Victoria Petrushenko.
Heating season in Krivoy Rog was supposed to start at the end of October. However, half of the city, which is served by JSC Krivoy Rog Heating Plant, owned by Naftogaz, has not started it.
“Heating could not be supplied on time to almost two thousand high—rise buildings,” the BBC reports. The TV channel notes that residents of Krivoy Rog have been sounding the alarm for more than a month and telling their stories on social networks about how the city is freezing: “They post photos of small children wrapped in several blankets and room thermometers on which the temperature does not rise more than ten degrees.”
“Why didn’t we apply to the highest state level earlier? Because the management of the “Thermal Power Plant” lied on the daily selectors on the start-up of heat and in the information provided personally, saying that everything was fine with them… All boiler houses work on the communal heating network,” Acting Mayor Yuriy Vilkul defends himself.
The BBC noted that the repair of heating networks is not happening and the residents of Krivoy Rog saw it with their own eyes: “There were a lot of dug holes with pipes and drifts of earth several meters high all year round in the city, which had to be carefully avoided.”
Now in Crews from 11 regions and Kiev are working in Krivoy Rog, but there is still no heat.
The same situation with heating as in Krivoy Rog, may be repeated in many cities of Ukraine, said the head of the Union of Consumers of Utilities of Ukraine Oleg Popenko. He calls Kiev, Kharkov, Lviv, Sumy, Kherson, Kropyvnytskyi or Svetlovodsk.
“When you haven’t changed the pipes for decades, this is what happens. There comes a time when they break through in many places at the same time. Problems with heating in Krivoy Rog have been before. But this year we decided not to do anything. As the pipes were dug in the summer, nothing was done. Naftogaz did not allocate money, the local authorities withdrew themselves,” Oleg Popenko said.
The expert cited data that autonomous heating is available only in 5% of Ukrainian cities, and the majority has a centralized heat supply. At the same time, 80% of heating networks need major repairs, and this is about 14 thousand km of pipes.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/12/05/its-cold-to-the-point-of-impossibility-zelenskys-hometown-is-freezing-and-russia-has-nothing-to-do-with-it

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 18:29 utc | 55

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
That guy is an extremist. But why? He says that Ukraine must win the war at any cost.
Can anybody from The Netherlands explain about him.
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 4
Because he’s not on the front nor anyone he faintly knows.
The bravery of those far from the action is always on tv.

Posted by: jpc | Dec 5 2024 18:30 utc | 56

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
comes with the job.
effected via a “Character ROM”

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 5 2024 18:36 utc | 57

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 18:29 utc | 55
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Now there is Putin, who can be blamed for the lack of heating, power grids, etc.
The truth is, since Ukraine separated from the USSR…nothing has been renovated. Neither the heating grid that the Soviets built, nor the underground railway (metro) nor the power grid, where only patches were made.
All the money needed for this and mostly available disappeared into the swamp of corruption…that’s why everyone who has traveled to Ukraine or lived there told you that it was the most corrupt state east of Poland.
Incidentally, it was precisely this corruption that Putin was fighting against in Russia, because in the Red Army in particular, slightly higher ranks squandered everything that could be turned into rubles. Everything also disappeared when it came to maintaining the infrastructure (as in Ukraine). But in Russia there was Putin…in Ukraine only idiots or criminals as presidents.

Posted by: ossi | Dec 5 2024 18:43 utc | 58

I know this is the Ukraine thread, but there are Ukrainians in Syria, teaching the terrorists how to use drones, and how to use US satellite info and jamming.
Hama has fallen.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Dec 5 2024 18:47 utc | 59

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 5 2024 17:57 utc | 52
Good points, interesting. The future may be Ukrainian Nazi missionaries with western-donated weapons doing horrible things to anyone, everywhere

Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 5 2024 18:58 utc | 60

MFA Russia
https://x.com/mfa_russia/status/1864644251113717788
Remarks and answers to media questions by Russia’s FM Sergey Lavrov following the OSCE Ministerial Council meeting in Malta.
Not exactly a friendly room…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 5 2024 19:05 utc | 61

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 18:29 utc | 55
Speaking of cold, what’s the weather forecast for Kursk for the next 30 days?
How are those isolated pockets of NATO mercs gonna hold up, stuck in trenches with snow covering them up to the top? Are they kitted out for -30C?
I hear the bus in Sumy is warm … time to run for it, boys.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 5 2024 19:14 utc | 62

With so many things turning out to be different from what they seemed, here is a question. Since others have already mentioned Mark the Great (Rutte), the Destroyer of Libya: I have no reason to believe him when he speaks of 600,000 Russian dead in the SMO or DPRK soldiers fighting in Kursk, because for neither claim has he provided evidence. But then let’s play fair and question the other side’s claim that Russia has up to 1/2 million but at least 1/4 m troops still in reserve near the SMO theater–armed, trained, and ready to go. Who are these troops, where are they stationed, and who has ever seen them? The Kharkov “Northern Front” turned out to be an absolutely minimal affair, leading to some skirmishes in the small town of Volchansk–almost as if Vlad had to “do something” to placate his domestic critics, though his heart wasn’t really into it. (Though as a diversion it seems to have unlocked the Donbass front, I don’t ridicule that.) Further Northern combat was only precipitated by Ukraine’s Kursk incursion; now Russia found the troops to contain it, but nothing overwhelming and even just sending ~2 blocking brigades took a while.
This bluster “only 10% of our combat power” died down after the first couple months of the SMO. At some point, you just can’t explain why you’re not committing say 25%, when many things in the SMO don’t go your way. We have all these theories why Putin keeps his foot on the brake pedal, but shouldn’t we also consider the alternative: what we see is both RU and UKR going full bore. If this is all Russia can realistically do, then crushing the AFU and sweeping Ukraine might take another decade, during which Russia is under nonstop drone etc bombardment. Faced with such a prospect, the Kremlin might well consider a negotiated shortcut to a compromise settlement. Taking Odessa doesn’t seem much more realistic today than two years ago.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 63

Posted by: I forgot | Dec 5 2024 14:12 utc | 34
“I suggest the exact opposite proposition: TPTB never promote or cast anyone in any leading role without a vetting process”
So where do trying to throw him in prison and two assassination attempts fit into the “vetting process”? Is that a new twist? “OK, if you survive our trained assassins we will let you be president.”
You might want to give your theory a rethink.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 64

It could be just probing attacks until they gather enough missiles for a larger attack. There was an american drone circling above Georgia a week ago or so, it could be picking potential targets in the rear, either Rybar or Dva majors reported on it iirc.
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Dec 5 2024 8:51 utc | 3
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Yeah, because that’s worked so well before. Maybe they’ll put the Crimean bridge out of action, for a whole month this time.
Of course maybe the missiles, got blown up in storage.
Trump won’t quit Ukr, a war that he prepared himself and basically started. This is only propaganda invented for multiple reasons. One is to suck money out of EU at a much higher rate, another is to create the idea that Trump is emperor of the planet and everything depends on him alone and which side of the bed he sees in the morning. Another is to send 18yo and refugees to war and the Eurolosers in unemployment which will be blamed on Russia so in 5-10 years they’ll volunteer to fight themselves. The offended sausage, the guy who gives them free money every day, again said that Ukr refugees must work or go back. Some of these losers will end in Syria too.
Posted by: rk | Dec 5 2024 11:46 utc | 14
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Trump didn’t “start” anything he’s a gasbag showman, nothing more.
As for 18y/o there isn’t that many to start with, refugees ain’t going to fight anywhere and Europeans ain’t joining no army.
Cool story tho…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Dec 5 2024 19:29 utc | 65

@ Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 63
do you get the impression russia is going slowly?? you and a number of others do…you’re probably the kind of person used to quick fast food that dish it up for you instantaneously and if they don’t, there’ll be hell to pay, lol… i guess you want everything to proceed according to a time schedule that works for you… maybe putin and russia have a different idea.. ever thought about that? lol.. your posts are mildly entertaining for the huge gaps they demonstrate in the thinking process..

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 19:41 utc | 66

Russian Oreshnik Missile: The
Power, Speed & Payloads w/MIT
professor Ted Postol
https://www.youtube.com/live/kKS7OYZoVdE?si=dvVlI0IyhMs0BUon
So we now have a detailed analysis of this variant of Russia’s missile arsenal.
I agree with the professor that Putin really can’t afford to make bold lies. So why is this a strategic game changer?
It occurred to me, as a battlefield weapon this would be devastating. It is ideally suited for hitting tree lines and Trench formations.
Russia currently accomplishes this using drones and missile strikes prior to any frontal attack. Military summary even claims You can predict what’s going to happen next based on their drone patterns.
Dropping six or eight thousand pounds of TNT in a tight pattern on a battlefield is going to have a big effect.
These missiles are not the type that penetrate. They essentially explode on the surface where the crater is a meter or 2 deep.
They do have tube launchers that they move around on trucks. Those are fairly close to the front and do get hit. So this is a replacement for that at a minimum. Superficially it would appear to be more expensive but perhaps not when ops are taken into account. Hard to say.
Russia creating so many fronts as kept Ukraine stretched thin. In my view we are witnessing big Arrow offenses, however a few stand for potentially collapsing the ukrainians.
We can be assured that they could spare 10 of them for any one offensive or another where they encounter strong resistance. So it is a potent Tactical weapon in there Arsenal. Allowing that they could accomplish this using their other capabilities.
I guess what remains is that it is a strategic weapon in that it allows them to make mid-range strikes without using nukes.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:43 utc | 67

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 19:41 utc | 66
The only big risk in going slowly is that it gets your enemies time to LeapFrog your technology and counter it. I am inclined to agree with Putin that even an extremely determined adversary would need 2 years to pull that off. And realistically it takes 5 to 10.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:45 utc | 68

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3lyxgez5xo
“A strong 7.0 magnitude earthquake has struck off the coast of northern California, according to the US Geological Survey.”
Could be just a coincidence..

Posted by: Rubiconned | Dec 5 2024 19:53 utc | 69

“So where do trying to throw him in prison and two assassination attempts fit into the “vetting process”? Is that a new twist? “OK, if you survive our trained assassins we will let you be president.”
You might want to give your theory a rethink.”
Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 64
I’m not sure if you’re exaggerating for a dramatic effect but I got your point. These weren’t assassins working for Hillary and her friends. When they do attend to whacking him I think they will be a little better organized and quite likely successful. Then the s*** will hit the fan.
One thing to keep in mind is that you could just accept that the damnocrats are incompetent. We’ve seen enough evidence of that.
However Trump has made powerful enemies in a number of domains already. Such notables as the games across the Mexican border. And let’s not forget the British spooks. The fascists in Europe in general. He no doubt has enemies within the FBI and CIA as well.
There are competent people amongst all these factions. I think he is at some risk here.
Certainly the Secret Service desperately means to up their game and catch up with the rest of the world and the situation on the ground.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:54 utc | 70

I know this is the Ukraine thread, but there are Ukrainians in Syria, teaching the terrorists how to use drones, and how to use US satellite info and jamming.
Hama has fallen.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Dec 5 2024 18:47 utc | 59

Interestingly, the same playbook used by Zanon is Ukraine has been deployed in Syria.
– First, deny anything is happening
– then playing it down – only a handful of militants
– then, pretend the strongholds are holding
– once important places fall (Aleppo), pretend the rebels are getting destroyed (400 dead according to RU MOD ! 1000 ! 5000 !). Invent imaginary casualty figures.
– share some meaningless videos of random explosions in the background, and claim feverishly the terrorists are all getting wiped out
– confidently predict everything will be over in a few days
– after being proved abjectly wrong a few months later, just ignore what’s happening on the ground and pretend every week that collapse is near
– alternatively, hallucinate facts (it’s only a few pockets of militants, the mappers are lying, they don’t hold any ground, situation is very fluid)

Posted by: Micron | Dec 5 2024 19:56 utc | 71

Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 63
We have all these theories why Putin keeps his foot on the brake pedal, but shouldn’t we also consider the alternative: what we see is both RU and UKR going full bore. If this is all Russia can realistically do, then crushing the AFU and sweeping Ukraine might take another decade, during which Russia is under nonstop drone etc bombardment.
It’s possible, and it’s a better argument then SB2020’s “Putin a coward or traitor” schtick, but none of us AFAIK live in Russia, and none of us have influence over Russian policy.
In another decade, who knows? Trump may have reindustrialised the US – but the forces arrayed against him are many. ATM China are selling 76% of the world’s electric vehicles, and IMHO in ten years they’ll surpass US GDP even on a non-PPP basis. The East/West balance is tilting ever more towards the East with each passing year.
But there may be unknown unknowns. Musk may have hundreds of neutron bombs in orbit, ready to take out Russian cities. Going on the assumption he hasn’t, another decade sweeping Ukraine’s not so bad. The US may have a lot more to worry about by then.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 5 2024 19:57 utc | 72

Syria is falling. I don’t see the Syrian army able to resist. Homs will fall, and then Damas.
Time for the Russians to pack up and leave, else we will have a mirror image of the americans scampering out of Bagram and Kabul. Khmeimim and Tartus are lost.

Posted by: Micron | Dec 5 2024 19:59 utc | 73

Its interesting to note – that the Neo-Nazi dictatorship running the failed state of Ukraine – has imposed sanctions on Georgian politicians for not falling into line with the EU.
https://nitter.poast.org/sopjap/status/1864621642644705551#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 5 2024 20:01 utc | 74

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive?
That guy is an extremist. But why? He says that Ukraine must win the war at any cost.
Can anybody from The Netherlands explain about him.
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 4
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This is not slander but a genuine attempt to explain how Rutte moves.
He’s a hardcore Protestant who has never been married.
Do the math on that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 5 2024 20:04 utc | 75

It occurred to me, as a battlefield weapon this would be devastating. It is ideally suited for hitting tree lines and Trench formations.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:43 utc | 67
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Hitting tree lines and trenches with Oreshnik would be like using a rocket launcher to swat a fly.
Oreshnik is meant to hit hardened positions, including airfields with protective cover for aircraft.
Also locations with underground facilities and storage.
It’s not anti-personnel. It is anti-infrastructure.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 5 2024 20:09 utc | 76

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:54 utc | 70
“Certainly the Secret Service desperately means to up their game and catch up with the rest of the world and the situation on the ground.”
It’s more likely that the Secret Service was in on it. Why else was the team who was supposed to be guarding the building where the shooter was positioned told to wait inside the building? Very strange. I attribute the failure of the assassination to Divine Providence (for good or bad) and I think TPTB are at a total loss as to what they should do.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 5 2024 20:13 utc | 77

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 5 2024 20:04 utc | 75
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Does “hardcore” have anything to do with it?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 5 2024 20:14 utc | 78

This bluster “only 10% of our combat power” died down after the first couple months of the SMO. At some point, you just can’t explain why you’re not committing say 25%, when many things in the SMO don’t go your way. We have all these theories why Putin keeps his foot on the brake pedal, but shouldn’t we also consider the alternative: what we see is both RU and UKR going full bore. If this is all Russia can realistically do, then crushing the AFU and sweeping Ukraine might take another decade, during which Russia is under nonstop drone etc bombardment. Faced with such a prospect, the Kremlin might well consider a negotiated shortcut to a compromise settlement. Taking Odessa doesn’t seem much more realistic today than two years ago.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 19:26 utc | 63
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10% of combat power is up there with the 3 day meme. No-one who isn’t an idiot believed that. Given the peacetime strength of the RAF.
The RF is nowhere near going full bore in its war effort. Ukraine OTOH pretty much is with footnotes whilst utterly reliant on foreign aid.
The Ukrs also don’t have ten years worth of manpower to mobilize, given their population crash and overall awful demographics.
The “drone bombardment” is a joke in the grand scheme of things. Right up there with Israeli’s feigning fear over Hamas bottle rockets.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Dec 5 2024 20:19 utc | 79

Rasmussen Message to Trump: You Can Win WWIII
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/05/dont-make-ukraine-your-afghanistan-ex-nato-chief-warns-trump

Posted by: Oui | Dec 5 2024 20:20 utc | 80

Posted by: ossi | Dec 5 2024 18:43 utc | 58
Thanks for that information. I knew Ukraine had serious problems with corruption but until I started reading some Ukrainian media outlets I did not realise how deeply embedded it is. Reports of illegal fuel filling-stations, illegal slaughterhouses, illegal toxic waste dumps, even illegal burial grounds, with the decomposition products from the interred cadavers leaking into water supplies; corruption even among the press-gang commissioners who are supposed to be mobilising people for the front line.
It is difficult to avoid forming the opinion that the best thing to happen for the ordinary, suffering Ukrainian person would be complete takeover by Russia. Joining the EU or NATO won’t improve matters.
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Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 5 2024 19:14 utc | 62
Well, Marat Khairullin had a graphic description about the effects of frostbite in one of his recent posts; made my eyes water as I read it, and not just from tears of mirth…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 20:27 utc | 81

@Micron | Dec 5 2024 19:56 utc | 71
>>the same playbook …
Wah, the past week of Syria discussion on this site condensed into eight lines, and nothing of value was lost. You get it, sir.
In fact, 1000 jihadi casualties sounds quite plausible to me–but so what? That’s what they were for. Much better one
strong surprise blow than sending one easily-defeated company a day for 3 mths, as Zaluzhny tended to do (“penny-packets” in the
terminology of Alexander Mercouris). It’s not like a tearful Erdogan has to write condolence letters to each of their mamas
separately. You still have to kick the remaining, who knows, perhaps 39,000 proxies in total out of all the territories that were lost.
——————–
Thanks for all replies to my question save for the ad hominem. But reply <> answer. Who are the big, heavy reserves–and where?
Do they exist? So far, doesn’t seem like I missed obvious open-source evidence that they do.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 20:31 utc | 82

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 5 2024 19:43 utc | 67
As I posted in the previous thread, Prof. Postol is as much in the dark about Oreshnik as the rest of us.
Could become a “Daily Reminder” feature…
Daily reminder; where are the images of the Yuzhmash complex, post Oreshnik?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 20:35 utc | 83

Rasmussen Message to Trump: You Can Win WWIII
Posted by: Oui | Dec 5 2024 20:20 utc | 80
Why does anyone ever think this will work?! Even if we assumed Trump did not hate these people, and he absolutely LOATHES them, he does not give half a toss who some European functionary regards as a winner or loser. He’d much rather see his enemies dangle on meat hooks and ask “who’s the loser now?”
Utter idiocy.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 5 2024 20:43 utc | 84

we have a tag team at moa!

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 20:43 utc | 85

Why is Mark Rutte, NATO chief so aggressive? (…)
He says that Ukraine must win the war at any cost.
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 9:07 utc | 4

Why is Friedrich Merz so aggressive? Unlike Scholz, he wants the German cruise missile, the Taurus, delivered to Ukraine. That would be the only weapon in Ukraine that can reach Moscow, using up the remainder of Putin’s patience and inviting a retaliatory strike on German territory.
OK, let’s leave him (and Rutte) alone. He’s a Blackrock creature, Atlanticist through and through with no chance to ever step back and contemplate. If you love your career, that’s where you’re likely to end up, in Germany.
But tell me one other thing: why do ordinary Germans allow him to become chancellor? Look at the current polls predicting the federal elections on February 23rd, 2025:
CDU/CSU (Merz) 32%
SPD (Scholz) 15%
Greens (Baerbock) 13%
AfD (Weidel) 18%
BSW (Wagenknecht) 6%
With the exception of AfD and BSW, all parties and media are still chanting the mantras: “Ukraine must win” and “as long as it takes”. Stubborn as they are, they are likely to keep this up even if the US should wake up and change it. CDU, SPD and Greens have no problems to form a coalition. I always thought that the prospect / danger of war would have a strong impact on voters. But, this poll from November 29th, is much too stable to change substantially until February 23rd. That means, Friedrich Merz is very much booked as the next chancellor.
So, as a German, I live inside a flock of dumb, uninformed sheeple, still regurgitating the mantra, and blind for their own suicidal tendencies, let alone for being deceived by others. Why they are this way is much harder to explain than Rutte’s aggressivity. One partial reason is, of course, their being isolated from RT, MoA and every other decent source of information.

Posted by: grunzt | Dec 5 2024 20:49 utc | 86

we have a tag team at moa!

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 20:43 utc | 85
And not for the first time either; it’s almost becoming boring…
Sharpen up, lads! You need a new act…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 20:50 utc | 87

@ grunzt | Dec 5 2024 20:49 utc | 86
the media is a powerful too, but public polls are an even more powerful tool.. most people believe them even when the data and who paid for the data is left out.. they weren’t predicting any success for afd prior to them winning and look what happened… the reason is the public poll data will only be released if it fits the narrative… thanks for your post..
@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 20:50 utc | 87
a new act is coming.. the names will change, but the puppet show will go on!

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2024 20:58 utc | 88

With suspicions of Russian influence swirling – denied by Moscow – and Romania’s state security council accusing TikTok of social media manipulation to Georgescu’s advantage – denied by TikTok, that first round went into recount but the top court ultimately validated the vote on Monday.
This is a snip from a Reuters piece, which gives the general flavor for the MSM stenography. Search under his name is basically suppressed. MAGA friendly publications call it differently:
A victory by devout Orthodox Christian Georgescu, who opposes abortion and gay marriage and has a Romania-first approach, will be a terrible upset for the Eurofanatic, Globalist plans of the European elites.
Abent from all is Georgescu statements that NATO missiles make Romania less safe and that Romania will be on its own after an attack. Oreshnik hit the ground the day before the last election date.
Not sure what the temperature is otg in Romania about this, or whether election integrity may be compromised. Interesting.

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 5 2024 21:00 utc | 89

Paranaense | Dec 5 2024 20:13 utc | 77
the Secret Service was in on it
And some of the (very fast) internet ballistic analysis was of the highest quality. So many, within hours, we’re exposed. Like photographer 9/11 Doug Mills of Bush-My Pet Goat fame. Lurking in poll position, aperture ready for the money shot of Trump’s head exploding.
It was then “fun” to watch the Langley Gang play catch-up, releasing their competing, confounding and conflicting graphics, eventually flooding the “information space” with enough noise to disrupt the early analysis.
I think there’s enough Team Trump now who know what happened and … Who.
Watching from my South Pacific perch to see what next in the ultimate “reality” shitshow.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 5 2024 21:01 utc | 90

So, as a German, I live inside a flock of dumb, uninformed sheeple, still regurgitating the mantra, and blind for their own suicidal tendencies, let alone for being deceived by others. Why they are this way is much harder to explain than Rutte’s aggressivity.

As a Brit in much the same situation I sympathise entirely, though some regurgitate the mantra without actually believing it, I can tell by the blank look in their eyes as they speak.
And sometimes I can have little breakthroughs in understanding:
Putin is a dictator
“Well, that’s as maybe, yet the autonomous Russian republics have more self-governance than Scotland”.
<silence, with a guilty look on their face>

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 21:07 utc | 91

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated yesterday no Ukronazi aid packages will be considered until after DJT complete a complete policy review….after 1/21/25
No new ammo, no new cash for the corrupt scammers in Kieve…….Volo’s days are now numbered in the single digits………..either its the a CIA/MI6 cap, or a permanent trip to Haifa, Nassau or Miami Beach, or a coup from the Azov Brigade…..take you pick !!!!!
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 5 2024 16:53 utc | 47

Don’t want to get my hopes up but this is a good sign. Looks like it applies to the 24bil package that was thought a done deal. Johnson would probably not do this unless urged by Trump. No soup for you, Zman.

Russian General Calls U.S. Chairman of Joint Chiefs
In a highly unusual call, the two men “discussed a number of global and regional security issues, to include the ongoing conflict in Ukraine,” a spokesman said.
I do not understand why Russia still talks to US army.
Posted by: salmon | Dec 5 2024 13:33 utc | 28

Christoforou pointed out that this happened a day after the last ATACMS attack. The Pentagon has been opposed to US weapons used against ‘old’ Russia, an indication they are slightly more sane than the Biden administration. Possibly Russia informing the US chairmen of Russia’s next target if another round of ATACMS are launched.

Posted by: Mike R | Dec 5 2024 21:13 utc | 92

@67 & 83
The quality of information here at MoA is not so bad. I put the j-p petit link b posted a few days back past a friend who was working on the rail gun and the xray laser for Star Wars back about same time Jean-Pierre was most prolific. He’s been reading and scribbling equations ever since. No, we do not know what those outside our immediate circle are doing, even if they are busy publishing it.
The three big problems first to mind from someone who has worked on plasma physics for the big boys:
Anyone who can get a security clearance is a dolt, any with one original idea, or even moderate awareness of the larger world, is a security risk.
Constant need to entertain funding source. Funding expires annually.
Americans cannot do mathematics. Worse now, maff is rayciss.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 5 2024 21:13 utc | 93

Posted by: grunzt | Dec 5 2024 20:49 utc | 86
Today, in the newspaper welt: a German opinion poll “What worries you?”
Answer: 1. Economy 2. Migration 3. Armed conflicts
What I found interesting is that, according to the poll, no matter what the problem, Green voters always think there is little reason to worry.

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 5 2024 21:17 utc | 94

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 20:27 utc | 81
>>I knew Ukraine had serious problems with corruption but until I started reading some Ukrainian media outlets I did not realise how deeply embedded it is.
Yes, but. Even with all those problems, Ukraine is able to contest and, how to call what they’re doing atm, seriously delay the Russian advances. With spare
capacity, if we believe the stories, to train/equip HTS & friends in modern drone warfare. I think Assad would give anything to have a force with the grit,
skill, and numbers of the AFU in his corner. But in fact, seems the SAA was left to rot into oblivion. Up to this week, I don’t feel I was properly informed
about this reality by the alt-media — at all. @Micron | Dec 5 2024 19:59 utc | 73 may be overstating things as a prediction, but little doubt that the fall
of Syria is the goal of the Zio-jihadists. With Hama gone, it’s already a serious worst-case scenario. (Then again, armies are expensive. With Putin playing
Santa Claus, handing over pieces of Syria which were never his to give to anybody who fancied a slice, Assad was left without an economic base. Some victim-
blaming going on these days.)
Let’s keep in mind that the combat power preserved in Idlibstan since 2020 has been a nightmare not only for Syria itself, but also for Libya and esp. Armenia.
It’s not like the distrust (by some) in Armenia of Moscow as a double-dealer comes out of nowhere, and many Syrians have also concluded that Putin is a bit
more clever than they have use for.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 21:26 utc | 95

Posted by: grunzt | Dec 5 2024 20:49 utc | 86
Green Party and Baerbock? Madam won’t return, it’s Habeck now … will the Greens reach 5%? I don’t think so … even FDP is struggling … the financial and economic strength of Germany is on the skids for some years now … blowing up Nord Stream 1 & 2 sealed the fate of EU as a global player. Trump won’t think It’s worth the effort to fight for Europe. …

Posted by: Oui | Dec 5 2024 21:36 utc | 96

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 5 2024 21:26 utc | 95
Not a direct response to your post but have to ask the following:
What device/OS are you using to post? Because something has screwed up your formatting to the point of illegibility; random newlines appearing halfway through sentences completely destroy any coherence.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 21:39 utc | 97

Green voters always think there is little reason to worry.
Posted by: Passerby | Dec 5 2024 21:17 utc | 94
That’s easy to explain: the Greens are an evangelical sect; They are convinced that they know exactly what is right and what is wrong. They don’t know the doubts of reasonable people. That’s why they’re so dangerous.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 5 2024 21:40 utc | 98

Expanding on my own #93
If research is being published in same field as US researchers are looking at, it will not be read if published in French or Russian. Even if there are French speakers or Russian speakers in the lab they will not look at it, as doing so will lead to suspicions of disloyalty. Xenophobia lives.
Related. My friend keeps talking to me in Imperial units. I told him I speak metric. That was one of the problems. If a congressman or general visits and metric terms are used goodbye funding. So everything is always an approximately and erroneously converted hash.
It really is and has been that stupid. He’s calling around to old colleagues and none know of the Franco-Russian MHD underlying Russian hypersonics. You read it at MoA first.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 5 2024 21:41 utc | 99

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 5 2024 21:41 utc | 99
Interesting insight, thanks for posting.
Exceptionalism doing what it does best???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 5 2024 21:50 utc | 100