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December 1, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-288

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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by militarywatchmagazine.com
“Russian Intel. Elaborates on Western Plans to ’Freeze’ the Ukrainian Frontlines with NATO Troop Deployments: Preparing For a Second War”
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russian-intel-western-plans-troop-deployments-ukraine
I don´t follow this magazine. Any confirmation? Suspiciously the text has no link for the claim the Russian would say this. Which questions the entire piece.

Posted by: AG | Dec 1 2024 13:38 utc | 1

Nothing will be frozen until UKR surrender.

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 1 2024 13:41 utc | 2

It’s a trial balloon rumor. It represents a plan some factions want but don’t have the ability to implement at this time. Russian intel isn’t in the habit of making press announcements.
Having said that it is the realization of putins prediction of a partition and occupation of ukraine by its other neighbour’s.
It may be a signal to Putin that his offer to divide Ukraine is acceptable.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 1 2024 14:07 utc | 3

@PalmaSailor 2
I don´t mean the “freeze”.
I mean this initial claim:
“Russian Foreign Intelligence Service disclosed information on plans by NATO member states to initiate a major ground force deployment to Ukraine”.
I am well aware of the PR in Europe. But that is one. To in fact deploy NATO troops into UKR is an entirely different matter and was so far regarded as only scaremonering towards Europe´s population and whip up jingoism.
This RU claim would suggest more probability that NATO might carry this out for real.
HOWEVER:
With this article lacking sources for the RU statement – it could well be again a lie by the West. i.e. RU never said that above phrase.

Posted by: AG | Dec 1 2024 14:09 utc | 4

The latest from Marat Khairullin: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/nato-wants-a-punch-in-the-face-theyre suggests NATO deployment is more theoretical than achievable. An extract from the article:

However, the forces that looked formidable on paper turned out to be a sham in reality. For example, as part of the “Brilliant Jump” exercises, 600 vehicles were supposed to be moved from Britain to Poland. In the end, only 100 were sent from the islands. Less than half made it to Poland. And so it is with everything.
New NATO members Sweden and Finland were able to send only five Leopard tanks to the joint exercises. And it looked very funny: the tanks drove up to the supposed battle site on asphalt, and when they tried to leave it for soft earth, they immediately got stuck. So they practiced on asphalt.

Oh yes, it also features an awful warning about frostbite…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 1 2024 14:26 utc | 5

It seems that Ukraine is going to stage a counteroffensive.
Amazing that they are still so strong and not tired of war.

Posted by: salmon | Dec 1 2024 14:28 utc | 6

@6 you’ve been listening to Dima too much. He’s jumped the shark.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 1 2024 14:41 utc | 7

Ukraine will launch an offensive once they send the 18-25 last generation into battle. It’s not imminent but once conscription is increased probably about 6 months from then to an attack.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 1 2024 14:52 utc | 8

And the RF continues to gain more and more ground everyday on every front………its over….the Ukronazi power grid is now toast…….whole UAF units are deserting……the Kursk fire pocket is collapsing…….
Now drop the Dneiper bridges and finish the job…..and then on to Odessa……..make hay while the sun shines…….
Finish off the Maidan Square plotters plan!!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 1 2024 15:19 utc | 9

Why drop the dnieper bridges and trap Ukrainians there to fight? Dropping the bridges which isn’t easy and would have negligible impact on military logistics which would and probably already does have hundreds of hidden underwater bridges ready to go, pontoon bridges, hell you can even use half destroyed bridges and walk across them.
Have you not watched videos with mangled bridges still serving military purposes? Have you not seen pontoon bridges, or bridges across dams?
How about amphibious vehicles, small boats? Ukraine kept hundreds of soldiers fighting across from kherson for a year under intense russian military strikes. How many can they support across thousands of miles of river hundreds of miles away from drones?
The answer is obvious, they can run the war with every bridge down, and they don’t stay down either.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 1 2024 15:27 utc | 10

Ukraine Weekly Update, 29th November 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-f5c

Posted by: The Busker | Dec 1 2024 15:28 utc | 11

@10
‘Hundreds of hidden underwater bridges..’
So what?
Russia has thousands of hidden North Koreans.

Posted by: Merkin Scot | Dec 1 2024 16:02 utc | 12

Posted by: AG | Dec 1 2024 13:38 utc | 1
There’s a good synopsis of this topic over at Simplicus’s site:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-152336907
Basically, its another headfake by the West to lull Russia into submission. It won’t fly, but it may be a starting point towards some sort of peace. Time will tell.

Posted by: madmarc | Dec 1 2024 16:12 utc | 13

@10
‘Hundreds of hidden underwater bridges..’
So what?
Russia has thousands of hidden North Koreans.
Posted by: Merkin Scot | Dec 1 2024 16:02 utc | 12
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I assume you say that in jest?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 16:20 utc | 14

I only post intermittently here, perhaps a couple times a month, but I read the blog daily, and honestly, use it as one of my primary sources of news. So, big thanks to b and the regulars here for helping me stay informed about what’s really happening, since actual news organizations long ago became political organizations.
But, since the US election a month ago, I find that even alternative news has become nearly as unreliable as the mainstream, with the disinformation effectively drowning out any possibility of sifting some truth from the hurricane of chaff.
What is going on? Were many of the alternative bloggers merely stalking horses that have revealed their true colors since Trump was re-elected? Have both sides stepped up their disinformation campaigns to hurricane force? Have Russian losses really increased substantially in the last weeks? Is there any realistic proof of the almost unbelievable claims of DPRK troops in Ukraine? Why do we still have no real information about the Oreshnik strike?
Come on, guys, step up your game! You’re letting me down here!

Posted by: The Owl | Dec 1 2024 16:20 utc | 15

Here is a visual of the progress made by the Russians in November alone… over 80 towns were liberated…
Oh yes, considering the size of Ukraine and the type of fortifications over the last 10 years – fortifications actually cast in concrete – these are huge areas.
BUT:
now there are almost no fortifications left, after the Dnieper there is flat land with relatively many roads.
https://t.me/frontbird/15892

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 16:22 utc | 16

Neofeudalfuture@10….logistics wins and looses wars, crippling bridges is sound military strategy, especially rail bridges (most important part) which move high volumes of heavy equipment . Having your military riddled with grifters and grafters will bog you down, needlessly wasting manpower and resources. Stop making excuses for bad military planning.
Cheers M
…..you must have missed the super duper strike on the missile factory with the new super duper weapons Russian has invented, and they can’t disable some rail bridges (but they can blow up DC, London and Paris)…..back to regular programing…..

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 1 2024 16:24 utc | 17

I’m not sure how he gets the monthly data, but Willy has DS showing 730 kmsq for NOV, which would equate to 24.3 kmsq per day. Or about a 50% improvement over the OCT pace of 17/day.
[For reference, I use War Mapper for monthly numbers since I don’t know where to get DS monthly data…and also War Mapper does some extra analysis. But they are usually very close. And even if one is bigger one month, it usually reverses the next, no consistent bias. War Mapper will be out in a few days.]

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 1 2024 16:28 utc | 18

With this article lacking sources for the RU statement – it could well be again a lie by the West. i.e. RU never said that above phrase.
Posted by: AG | Dec 1 2024 14:09 utc | 4
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Have you looked at RT, TASS, or some other Russian source? If you can’t find the story, even if it is being denied, it is bull shit.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 16:28 utc | 19

Why would Russia agree to freeze anything ,its front line is moving rapidly West.
The gains in mineral resources Russia have made in the Donbass do not seem to be sufficient to off set the losses Russia has incurred. It lost European oil and gas market to privately owned LNG producers and to privately owned Mediterranean oil and gas and pipelines designed to carry the med gas to via Cyprus to Europe.. Russia’s real problem with the west has only been worsened by this war in Ukraine, IMO. So will Russia freeze its losses? I doubt it.. The territory in Western Ukraine is problematic for Russia? I don’t think Russia wants it.
Something i heard, important if true, is that Merkel has published a new book that admits the Minsk accords were intentionally deceptive and the book reveals Germany knew that the west would intercept the Nordstream pipeline..
Another thing I heard is that a WSJ article identifies an investor who intends to purchase the assets from the bankrupt Nordstream pipeline soon be on the auction block.
If private western investors become owners of Nord stream pipeline. Russia will have to allow the west to make money from Russia’s oil and gas because the private owners of the Nordstream II pipeline will be the only gateway Russian oil and gas companies have to sell their oil in Western markets. That could be a giant loss to Russia but it could also fit the conspiracy theory that Putin is part of a western conspiracy to sell Russian assets to Western allies.
This war will continue ALA Russian mineral wealth threatens the goals of Class 1 imperialism. Four classes of power make up most Nation states.
.002M Class 1. Oligarch: wealthy 6% seeking more wealth. King of mountain, Deep State?
__10M Class 2. POPFMEs: privately owned, publically [stock market] financed multi-national entities.
__10M Class 3. Government: includes anything government local to global.
_320M Class 4. Slaves: governed people blinded by the obligations of patriotism.
so in the USA for example 20.002 million (6%) control the destinies of 320 million. I assume those %ages and numbers apply world wide to each nation state
class 1 people= 0.0006% of the population, 3%for each of Class II and Class III ?
and 94%
classes 1,2, and 3 run things: promote profit from war, publish mind control propaganda.
The slave group[class 4], 94% of the population are made to pay for the wars both in blood and tax dollars that the 6% institute.
Class 4 members are prisoners to the propaganda of patriotism. Patriotism is a mind control-population control tool. Patriotism isolates the people governed by the nation state from the people governed by the all other nation states. Patriotism is a derivative of mind control propaganda; it is the essence of imperial power. If no one joined the imperial armies, wars would not be fought. Class 4 members are objecting to Patriotism if it translates to blind support for the activities conducted by the state that infringe on or that are destructive to human rights. Nation state sovereignty does not exist without patriotism. Patriotism is the result of Classes 1,2, and 3 use of the media to deliver customized and highly tailored mind-control propaganda. Patriotism is the attention getter that makes the governed masses accept as true that which is told to them. Customized and highly tailored propaganda, delivered by nation state specific media, family based institutions, etc manipulates and changes people’s beliefs about things. Each state has its own mind control propaganda. So beliefs held by people in each of the isolated nation states becomes a direct expression of (or a function of) the propaganda which Class 4 people in that particular nation state have been exposed to. Nation state propaganda colors the environment. Class 4 persons believe what they believe because that have been told to believe. But when experience makes a lie out of what they have been told, what then? The experience of war for the profit of but a few since WWII has made class 4 people aware their nation state has been compromised.
The four class division has been such a useful analytical tool for me that I recommend alternative media adopt it into its dialog. Class 4 persons in each nation state rarely think the same way Class I persons think, Class 4 Brits do not think the same way Class 1 Brits think, class 4 persons in Germany do not think the same way Germany’s Class 1 persons think. Alt Media needs to recognize that Class 4 members in each nation state are victims of highly differentiated propaganda which has been carefully designed to control the thinking and beliefs of that nations class 4 persons. Why is it, how is it that 6% of most populations control the thinking, the beliefs and the behaviors of 94% of the populations..
I observe that the nation state system (NSS) captures 100% of the population of the world. No one escapes the (6%) who control the great many (94%). The NSS is a global prison system. Each nation state government is warden subject to the demands of a globally interconnected set of executives (Classes 1 persons representing less that 1% of the population of the world). But at the class 4 level, inter-connectivity between people and cross boundary communications are carefully monitored, highly regulated and generally discouraged by language differences and controlled border crossings and license to be there (as in green cards or citizenship). So a good way to look at the NSS is to consider it to be a divide to conquer devise. Propaganda content in MSM, rule of law, and mind controlled environmental surroundings indoctrinate the class 4 slaves 24/7.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 28 2024 20:28 utc | 81
Russia won’t be able to stop this war unless Russia willingly surrenders..
<= From the above it is I think clear Russia will not be able to stop Class I imperialistic aggression against competitors to western Class I king of the mountain seekers. <=where ever competition appears there will be conflict. Unless class 4 people successfully deny class 1 king of the mountain wealth to use the Nation state system the aggressions will continue. Likely the war against Russia and the aggression that caused it will be settled only after a private western investor (similar to above alleged WSJ story) takes control of, and profits from, all significant Russian natural wealth.

Posted by: snake | Dec 1 2024 16:31 utc | 20

Posted by: snake | Dec 1 2024 16:31 utc | 20
How many semesters and what subjects did you study and how much life experience did you combine that with?
Or do others ask “What kind of stuff do you smoke?” to seem smart or to believe that you are?

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 16:36 utc | 21

Oh yes, it also features an awful warning about frostbite…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 1 2024 14:26 utc | 5
Ah, yes. Inadequate protection against real cold led to 54 frostbitten penises! 😂😂😂
Get the word out to potential recruits & mercs…

Posted by: Mary | Dec 1 2024 16:40 utc | 22

What is going on? Were many of the alternative bloggers merely stalking horses that have revealed their true colors since Trump was re-elected? Have both sides stepped up their disinformation campaigns to hurricane force? Have Russian losses really increased substantially in the last weeks? Is there any realistic proof of the almost unbelievable claims of DPRK troops in Ukraine? Why do we still have no real information about the Oreshnik strike?
Come on, guys, step up your game! You’re letting me down here!
Posted by: The Owl | Dec 1 2024 16:20 utc | 15
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Well, Mr. Owl, I think you are partially correct about some of the Trump supporters here at MoA. They really thought that Trump would at least end the US proxy war against Russia. Their guy won, but the future doesn’t look so good. Most of us at MoA who were not Trump supporters were not Biden/Harris supporters.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 16:41 utc | 23

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 16:41 utc | 23
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This may be because the ardent Trump supporter is slowly realizing that Trump cannot end this war the way HE thought… without embarrassing himself in front of his own system or forcing the system to get rid of him. It is entirely possible that Trump is happy with Biden’s escalation… in the hope that he can use it as an excuse. Like every Western politician, HE is primarily concerned with saving face… not with people or democracy…
And he will have understood… threatening Putin will not get you out of a burning New York or Boston.

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:11 utc | 24

Just looked at the Weather Channel 10 daay forecast for Kiev. Winter has arrived. Highs in the lower thirties for the next 10 days with some rain and snow on some days. Doesn’t bode well for the city dwellers. I hope this will start a migration from the cities either to other countries or relatives that have heat (and water). I hope that Russia keeps hitting the electric grid until it completely collapses, that might bring a revolt or a change in “leadership” that will be ready to negotiate (surrender).

Posted by: ctiger | Dec 1 2024 17:17 utc | 25

I hope that Russia keeps hitting the electric grid until it completely collapses, that might bring a revolt or a change in “leadership” that will be ready to negotiate (surrender).
Posted by: ctiger | Dec 1 2024 17:17 utc | 25
It is strange how Ukrainians always manage to repair the electric grid.

Posted by: Salmon | Dec 1 2024 17:28 utc | 26

Posted by: ctiger | Dec 1 2024 17:17 utc | 25
30 degrees in Kiev?
That’s nonsense…according to the 7-day forecast, it will be between minus 1 and plus 6 degrees in Kiev in the next few days…
By the way…minus 30 degrees was last seen around 25 years ago and is an absolute extreme exception for Kiev, I worked there for around 8 years

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:39 utc | 27

@ einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:39 utc | 27
I imagine ctiger was using the Fahrenheit scale.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 1 2024 17:42 utc | 29

@ Neofeudalfuture, §3:
Putin´s already said he doesn´t want to rule over parts that don´t want to be Russian.
That means he´ll take up to the 1939 western borders, whither most of the Banderites would probably flee, if not to Canada 🙂
The six oblasts in and around Kiev will be offered a referendum between being part of Russia or a state like Belarus – with no Banderites allowed.
The return of Galicia/Volyn to Poland and Bessarabia/Bukovina to Rumania would be strictly contingent upon them (a) handing over their Aegis Ashores, (b) leaving NATO (they can stay in the EU if they´re daft enough to want to), (c) no foreign troops, only Polish & Rumanian in their respective territories.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 17:47 utc | 30

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:11 utc | 24
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I agree with you; thanks for the reply.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 17:54 utc | 31

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 17:47 utc | 30
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And that is exactly what the West…especially the Bald Alliance including Germany and England will NEVER allow Putin to take over these areas.
These criminals would rather plunge us all into a war first…with March 2025 being a decisive date.

Posted by: ossii | Dec 1 2024 17:56 utc | 32

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 17:47 utc | 30
Better offer rump Ukraine west of Dnieper minus Odessa as Israel overseas territory. Getting rid of the population easy. Announce 18 to 25 recruitment but leave some escape routes open. All these and their parents gone. Peace from Gaza to Syria,Iran

Posted by: Michael J | Dec 1 2024 18:00 utc | 33

To be involved in a diplomatic settlement that ends the bloodshed, Americans would have to demonstrate genuine humility and honesty. Therefore the possibility of it ever happening can be ruled out.

Posted by: chunga | Dec 1 2024 18:02 utc | 34

33:
Sometimes I think you all don’t look at maps.
1. So are you going to have Odessa as an exclave, like Kaliningrad? What about Kherson and the rest of the Black Sea coast?
2. Are you aware that the Dnieper bisects the city of Kiev?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_reservoir_cascade#/media/File:Dnepr_Kiew_Reservoir.png

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 1 2024 18:04 utc | 35

The way Trump wanted to end Ukraine war was anyway NOT meeting the base requirements set by Russia, particularly a final and not temporary settlement of Russia security goals.

Posted by: scc | Dec 1 2024 18:04 utc | 36

Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:39 utc | 27
I was using the Fahrenhite scale,

Posted by: ctiger | Dec 1 2024 18:07 utc | 37

Posted by: ossii | Dec 1 2024 17:56 utc | 32
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And you know this how? Please share.
My guess is that the French won’t fight. I doubt if the German people will either, nor can the goverment afford it. Perhaps Poland will be willing to fight Ukrainian Nazis; at least the government will.
This info is according to today’s Duran with guest Alastair Crooke. He could be wrong, but it made sense, and for now, that’s all we have.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 18:10 utc | 38

@ snake
> … losses Russia has incurred. It lost European oil and gas market
The war greatly accelerated the eventual trend for Russia to reorient east. But, it was bound to happen. Russia will receive far more ‘value’ selling Nordstream gas to China, the society quickly replacing EU brands with their own at a 75% discount.

Posted by: I forgot | Dec 1 2024 18:13 utc | 39

These criminals would rather plunge us all into a war first…with March 2025 being a decisive date.
Posted by: ossii | Dec 1 2024 17:56 utc | 32
Why March 2025. ?

Posted by: Salmon | Dec 1 2024 18:18 utc | 40

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 1 2024 18:04 utc | 35
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We had this discussion on MoA over a year ago. I sided with the faction that “thought” Odessa might be sacrificed as a bargaining tool. Otherwise, the RUMP state of Kiev will be landlocked. I think that possibility still exists, perhaps with Russian Navy supervision for a while, like 10 years.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 1 2024 18:19 utc | 41

THIS IS FROM CNN
O_O
At least 200 people were killed in Israeli airstrikes on northern Gaza Saturday, according to local health officials, as the United Nations said it would pause aid deliveries through the enclave’s main crossing after more of its trucks were stolen.
The developments underscore the worsening humanitarian situation in the enclave, where tens of thousands of people have been killed by the Israeli military, and chronic hunger threatens the remaining civilian population. On Friday, two children and a woman were crushed to death while attempting to buy food from a bakery in central Gaza.
Speaking to CNN on Sunday, Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, director of the Kamal Adwan Hospital, said that five buildings housing more than 200 people were struck in the Tal Al Zaatar and Beit Lahiya areas of northern Gaza.
“They were calling for help, and anyone who tried to assist was bombed. Unfortunately, the cries for help have disappeared; they were killed,” Dr. Abu Safiya said. The strike in Tel Al Zaatar left more than 100 people under the rubble, with only one person pulled out.
“This scene has become a daily occurrence, and no one is held accountable; no one can stop the killing of innocent people.”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/01/middleeast/israel-strikes-gaza-aid-halted-intl/index.html

Posted by: ld | Dec 1 2024 18:21 utc | 42

If Trump/Drumpf ends the war in Ukraine or any war for that matter, it will be only because his zio-owners want it so. Which means it will be done to either collapse entire regions and nations straight into blackrock/zio ownership, and/or to set up even bigger wars and genocide within a few years.

Posted by: Jack M | Dec 1 2024 18:22 utc | 43

re: I forgot | Dec 1 2024 18:13 utc | 39
Good comment, great name.
If I ever am handed another nametag, I would like “I forgot” printed in large text.

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 1 2024 18:30 utc | 44

We have no information about the Oreshnik strike because damage assessment is a valuable commodity in war. 10x for a new class of weapons. Disadvantage of deploying prototypes directly to war. Whether the target has been destroyed determines whether more attacks are necessary. There is no doubt the target that was hit had long term implications for Russia’s security. In our lifetimes we will maybe never know exactly how effective these Kinetic weapons are as civilians. The kinetic energy is there but how it is distributed as function of design. Allowing the enemy damage assessment facilitates design improvements.
Ukraine is not just a laboratory for the west but all participants and their allys. The lessons being learned are priceless from the standpoint of war. Those whose blood is spilt pay the real price. Ironically as “progress” is made the world becomes more unsafe not less. The war technology detente of the past becomes increasingly impossible as war technology development accelerates. In many ways we trust the detente of nuclear weapons to provide stability. Nuclear weapons are perceived as the ultimate god like power that can not be improved upon and thus a ultimate detente.
This is only one aspect of war. Ultimately economics and logistics determine outcomes.As resources deplete logistics become increasingly unachievable for boots on the ground. Macro logistics chains have become very limited in their scope one aspect of proxy warfare where localized supply chains are utilized. While this is regarded as a moral failure it is in reality the only practical way to continue war with some semblance of the models of the past..
War capability is equivocated with self determination capability. Its utility as a method is far past its expiration date but the alternatives seem to be to embrace one tyranny or another. This is the false paradigm of two bad choices death by ungabunga. That joke while in extremely poor taste reflects a widespread acceptance of extinction. Other choices must be sought even as uncomfortable and nontraditional as they are. This represents humanity’s greatest learning task in known history. The first step is understanding our skill level in this matter is nonexistent and the status quo is unsustainable. The period we exist in could be birthing pains or the failure to adapt that is expressed by extinction.
War is the traditional method to deal with finite resources. We are approching ever increasing points of significance in this matter. That finite resouces are a reality that can not be denied it is very uncomfortable to accept this and try to adapt in a manner that represents justice and adapt appropriately. While certainly in the short term military capability has value in the long term it is easily shown to be just another path to extinction- death by ungabunga. All we can do is try to accept methods that represent justice while understanding that no method is perfect on a personal level. It would greatly behoove humanity to reject war as a solution representing justice now while some semblence of the detente is still functioning as a means of stability. As stability increasingly erodes the tendency to fall back on traditional method is compelling but it represents just another path to extinction.
While the reality is now we are incapable of rejecting war as a coping method without a destabilization that creates undesirable outcomes we can try to move away and from the method understanding that it is no longer effective or appropriate use of resources. This can only come from the characteristics we understand as compromise and diplomacy. Rejecting those characteristics in totality destroys our ability to adapt appropriately. This is a defacto choice where extinction is regarded as the best choice alternatives too uncomfortable to contemplate. The reality is that many choose extinction and that is their right as a expression of free will. The choice ultimately should come from a place of understanding as understanding truth in difficult choices with extreme consequences represents justice.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 1 2024 18:31 utc | 45

It is strange how Ukrainians always manage to repair the electric grid.
Posted by: Salmon | Dec 1 2024 17:28 utc | 26
Do they repair or do they get generators from the West, especially Germany, as presents ?

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 1 2024 18:56 utc | 46

It is strange how Ukrainians always manage to repair the electric grid.
Posted by: Salmon | Dec 1 2024 17:28 utc | 26
Do they repair or do they get generators from the West, especially Germany, as presents ?

Electric grids are surprisingly resilient. they are not repaired but patched up. The patchwork
must be patched an so on.Finally there will be no
patches anymore.

Posted by: Catilina | Dec 1 2024 19:07 utc | 47

Outrage Grows As Pentagon Confirms Depleted Uranium Rounds Headed To Ukraine
https://www.commondreams.org/news/us-depleted-uranium-ukraine
“The Pentagon confirmed Wednesday that the US will send depleted uranium ammunition to Ukraine as part of a new $175 million military aid package, drawing outrage from progressive foreign policy advocates, who have warned against such a move and noted the horrific impact such weapons have had in Iraq and elsewhere…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 19:12 utc | 48

The peacekeepers freeze the war plan is very unimaginative considering the conditions and the past. Obviously worthless with a ‘not agreement capable” adversary. The Anglo Americans have violated the second rule of war. Don’t believe and make plans on the bullshit you feed to the masses.
If Russia was on its knees military and economically it makes sense. Is that the case? I doubt that premise. One can only be amazed at the emptiness of the Anglo Americans abilites to proffer anything less that the planned balkanization of Russia.

Posted by: circumspect | Dec 1 2024 19:15 utc | 49

The following quote is from the Michael Brenner piece from the empire section of The Week In Review but fits here

For the Kremlin has set stipulations for a peaceful resolution that could only be met by a broader accord than is visualized in the horse trading anticipated by the Trump entourage and like-minded think tankers. Russia will not stop the fighting until a firm agreement has been reached. That is one. It will not accept any ambiguity as to the future status of the Russophile territories in question. That’s two. It will not tolerate leaving in place a Kiev government controlled by the rabid anti-Russian nationalists who have run it since 2014. That’s three. It will demand a treaty that formally neutralizes Ukraine on the model of post-war Austria. That’s four. It will press hard for the constitution of a pan-European security architecture which accords Russia a legitimate place. That’s five.

He rightfully asks how Trump is going to resolve this in a day or so.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2024 19:37 utc | 50

He rightfully asks how Trump is going to resolve this in a day or so.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2024 19:37 utc | 50
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I can’t wait to read/hear the spin if 2 days elapse after inauguration with Russia still on the march.
Because we all know it is coming.
Putin is antifragile. The more pressure the West puts on him, the harder he becomes. The only way to “work” with Putin is to give him respect, which means acknowledging his concerns without equivocation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 19:49 utc | 51

Ukraine will launch an offensive once they send the 18-25 last generation into battle. It’s not imminent but once conscription is increased probably about 6 months from then to an attack.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 1 2024 14:52 utc | 8
That may well be the case: funnel the last batch of decent recruits into newly raised brigades, stockpile a modicum of equipment by starving the front and scraping the western barrel and throw everything at the place where they can advance the furthest regardless of it making military sense. I could see that.
That said there are a lot of assumptions going into this.

Posted by: Satepestage | Dec 1 2024 19:52 utc | 52

Posted by: Fred | Dec 1 2024 18:31 utc | 45
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Go read karlof1’s translation from Kazakhstan where VVP spoke at length about how Oreshnik works.
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/putin-at-csto-council-meeting-in

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 19:56 utc | 53

I voted for Trump because I don’t give a shit about anyone’s Preferred Pronouns!
Of course the guy won’t do a single thing to stop the wars. Besides, he’s funnier than the self-righteous Kackler and her sidekick, Tampon Timmy. I don’t like being lectured by Nihilists.

Posted by: OldFart | Dec 1 2024 20:05 utc | 54

30 degrees in Kiev?
That’s nonsense…according to the 7-day forecast, it will be between minus 1 and plus 6 degrees in Kiev in the next few days…
By the way…minus 30 degrees was last seen around 25 years ago and is an absolute extreme exception for Kiev, I worked there for around 8 years
Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:39 utc | 27
He meant 30°F. 0°C = 32°F.

Posted by: Mary | Dec 1 2024 20:17 utc | 55

einer der Nachdenkt | 1. Dezember 2024 17:39 UTC | 27
“30 Grad in Kiew?
Das ist Unsinn.”
ctiger ist in der Fahrenheit-Skala unterwegs gewesen: 30F sind ungefähr 0°C.

Posted by: frillo | Dec 1 2024 20:24 utc | 56

Posted by: The Owl | Dec 1 2024 16:20 utc | 15
It’s out there if you look. I think you’ve got to understand that America, like most Western states are in a cold civil war at the moment. Populations are split roughly 1/3 to 2/3rds with governments increasingly focused on delivering for the former and ignoring or deliberately provoking the latter. As such, and with the governed monopolising the hard power, the popular resistance are becoming very adept at using soft-power, witness Trump’s brilliant SM campaign, completely wrong-footing and outflanking the Dems on a battlefield they previously thought they owned, quite literally.
Because it’s an existential war, both sides will adhere to the my enemy’s enemy, maxim and so it is/was with Ukraine. The populist Right used the ill-conceived Ukraine adventure to beat the progressive, Neo-con hybrid, and join the dots of DS corruption. Now that Trump has won there will be an inevitable tightening of ranks as it’s increasingly his problem, and support for Putin will decline as he’s still regarded as a potential threat, especially with BRICS threatening the MAGA agenda. In essence it was an alliance of convenience, but a crucial one, helping adjust Cold-War attitudes, but not removing the belief in American exceptionalism. Those hoping for anything else will be sadly disappointed, MAGA is, for better or worse, about origins, as are most of the populist movements that are beginning to grow in Europe. To put it another way, we are going through a post Cold-War reset as the revolution evolution cycle reaches the realisation and rejection phase.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 1 2024 20:24 utc | 57

Posted by: Catilina | Dec 1 2024 19:07 utc | 47
22.12.2023
The EU is mobilising a further 500 power generators from its strategic rescEU reserves to strengthen Ukraine’s energy resilience.
Continued brutal attacks by Russia have left Ukrainian energy infrastructure fragile. Despite the efforts by local authorities, it is impossible to restore all the destroyed power grids within a year.
Deployed from the EU’s emergency rescEU reserves hosted by Poland, the generators range from small 12.5 kVA to large 1000 kVA that are capable of suppling energy to entire hospitals in case of power cuts. The financial value of the 500 power generators being sent to Ukraine is €16.5 million. The generators will be provided to different Ukrainian ministries. The goal is to ensure sufficient supply of electricity during cold and dark months, but also to keep vital services like hospitals, wastewater treatments and heating stations up and running. For example, 40 of the 500 generators are designated for schools.
Together with this new deployment, more than 5,500 power generators have been sent to Ukraine via the EU Civil Protection Mechanism, which includes offers from the Member States and 2178 from the EU’s own rescEU stockpiles that serve as an additional protection layer. In addition to generators, the EU has been delivering other vital energy supplies to Ukraine like transformers, autotransformers, high-voltage equipment and LED light bulbs.
https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/news/eu-sends-additional-500-power-generators-ukraine-2023-12-22_en#:~:text=2%20min%20read-,EU%20sends%20additional%20500%20power%20generators%20to%20Ukraine,to%20strengthen%20Ukraine's%20energy%20resilience.
EU urgently sends 167 generators to Ukraine
TUESDAY, 9 APRIL 2024 — ANDRII SYNYAVSKYI
The European Union has sent emergency aid to Ukraine in the form of 167 generators following the recent Russian attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.
As reported by the European Commission, Austria, Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands offered 157 power generators of various capacities through the EU Civil Protection Mechanism, while the EU provided 10 high-capacity power generators from its own stocks worth €3.57 million. The aid is on its way to Ukraine.
“Each of these [10] powerful 1MW generators has the capacity to supply electricity to a medium-sized hospital under emergency conditions,” the statement said.
Spain strengthens its support for Ukraine by donating seven electricity generators to help meet winter needs
Minister Albares visits these devices, to be transported to Ukraine in the coming weeks through the European Union Civil Protection Mechanism.
Ukrainian Ambassador Sergy Pogoreltsev joined the minister on the visit and thanked him for the delivery of the electrical units.
The EU will provide Ukraine with thousands of solar panels and generators
• Daria Rohalevych
• •
• 19:00, 11 June, 2024

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, spoke about new assistance from the EU in restoring the damaged energy system of Ukraine.
The head of the European Commission, Ursula von de Leyen, said this during her speech at the Ukraine Recovery Conference 2024, NikVesti reports.
According to her, the EU is «mobilizing financial strength to help Ukraine endure and recover.»
«This includes ongoing material support given Russia’s systematic attacks on the Ukrainian energy system. So far we have raised around €500 million for emergency repairs and restoration. We will continue to invest in the generation of current and energy,» said Ursula von de Leyen.
In addition, the EU will provide 1,000 generators for emergency power generation and 1,000 solar panels. According to the head of the European Commission, the panels «will arrive soon.»
EU Hands Over 68 Generators to Ukrainian Critical Infrastructure
BY ROMAN CHEPLYK
FRIDAY, JULY 26, 2024
Culture/LifeInvestmentsTechnologiesUkrainian war
The European Union has provided 68 generators to support Ukrainian critical infrastructure, addressing the impacts of Russian attacks on the energy sector
Generator Delivery: The European Union, in collaboration with the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the EU Service of Foreign Policy Instruments, has handed over 68 generators to Ukrainian critical infrastructure facilities.
August 28, 2024
The Minister for Foreign Affairs, European Union and Cooperation, José Manuel Albares, today visited the warehouses in Arganda del Rey (Madrid) where the seven generators that Spain is donating to Ukraine through the Spanish Agency for International Development Cooperation (AECID) are located.
Talking to the media, Albares underscored Spain’s strong commitment and solidarity with the Ukrainian civilian population. This donation is in addition to the 14 electric generators already delivered in November 2022 and the two ambulances delivered in January this year.
These shipments concern three 200KVa and four 220KVa generators, worth a total of 360,000 euros…

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 1 2024 20:31 utc | 58

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 19:12 utc | 48
Of course they’re outraged, Trump’s President elect. I guess they’ll also be joined shortly by Code Pink and Greenpeace calling for an end to the destructive war in Ukraine!
BTW, if they are shipping DU it means the Sabots being used are not reliably penetrating targets, and $175 million doesn’t buy you much, 50K approx of 120mm, and that’s if you spend the entire tranche, and not all on the DU shells.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 1 2024 20:48 utc | 59

I was in an old thread, so reposting here:
Regarding the oreshnik attack, I geolocalized where the Medvedev clip was shot from!
It was from the roof of a 21 stories apartment building named Ulduz. During some of the salvos, you can see three chimneys on the left of the webcam image… here they are on Google map. The apartment building is here on GM.
I’m deep diving into this to check if some of the oreshnik submunitions fell at the same place (I read somewhere there are not 36 craters! only 12??)
And here’s a nice drone shot of the “Yuzhny Machine-Building” plant.

Posted by: proflutz | Dec 1 2024 20:52 utc | 60

War is the traditional method to deal with finite resources. We are approaching ever increasing points of significance in this matter. That finite resources are a reality that can not be denied it is very uncomfortable to accept this and try to adapt in a manner that represents justice and adapt appropriately.
Posted by: Fred | Dec 1 2024 18:31 utc | 45

Half a century ago, I was a fly on the wall at an institute of technology, listening to endless discussions of this very topic. The consensus was that resource wars would be inevitable by the first quarter of the 21st century – which seemed a long way away at that point. The elites will easily take whatever they can from the masses, and fight hard and dirty amongst themselves for what remains.

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 1 2024 20:58 utc | 61

Not sure if this is a real photo, but if, then it looks like a big hole. And if there were several of these…
https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2024/11/26/879183.html

Posted by: nevetz | Dec 1 2024 21:08 utc | 62

Re: Trump and Ukraine
We really won’t know for sure until he’s in office BUT
I’m hoping he goes with “this is way to expensive and we’re pulling the plug on this expedition let Europe deal with it.”
However, for some reason he’s been pretty quiet abt the whole thing and from what has come out, it seems he’s being fed the same disconnected propaganda as all the other pinheads in D.C.

Posted by: Ezzie | Dec 1 2024 21:14 utc | 63

@ Ed, §41:
Belarus is landlocked and functions well enough.
The “rump” Ukraine (Chornarus?) will be lucky to exist at all but I think Putin prefers a happy vassal like Belarus to a sullen, smouldering set of oblasts around Kiev. So the rump can take their pick: “independent” Chornarus – or half a dozen Russian oblasts.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 21:43 utc | 64

Re: No. 45…
Oh, Fre-Ed… Attributed to Wilma Flintsone.
I disagree with you. As horrid as it is, war is the only honorable means of settling irreconcilable disputes. That the risks of planet-wide destruction are apparent to us makes no difference. Until you find a cure for greed, avarice, and ambition, humanity will always know war. 😥

Posted by: OldFart | Dec 1 2024 21:56 utc | 65

Chornarus?
In Latin letters shouldn’t that be Chernarus? Black is ~ Cherna, or that’s how I hear it.

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 1 2024 21:57 utc | 66

Until you find a cure for greed, avarice, and ambition, humanity will always know war. 😥
Posted by: OldFart | Dec 1 2024 21:56 utc | 65

Yes, the cure came to us 2000 years ago and was brutally murdered, as he expected. Humanity will continue to suffer until we have been utterly humbled and cured of our delusions of grandeur.

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 1 2024 22:03 utc | 67

Engler: Trudeau’s ‘Good Guys’ and Bad Reveal Hypocrisy of Supporting US Empire
https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/trudeaus-good-guys-and-bad-reveal-hypocrisy-of-supporting-us-empire
“The innumerable ways the Trudeau government has supported Israel makes a mockery of Ottawa’s claims to be advancing human rights or international law in Ukraine. Does anyone believe someone so deeply complicit in the Gaza holocaust cares about Ukrainian rights or sovereignty?
Ottawa hasn’t publicly promoted Washington’s push to conscript teenagers, but Canada is assisting Kiev in its bid to force passport holders to return to Ukraine to review their passports, which allows authorities to press them into the military.
Many who were appalled by Canada’s role in Israel’s holocaust have supported Ottawa’s Ukraine policy. They refuse to challenge the simplistic NATO narrative.
As such, the engagement of many involved in last week’s Quebec student strike for Palestine in protests against the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in Montreal was important.
It suggests the popular uprising against Israel’s genocide may be broadening its outlook towards challenging Canadian foreign policy and imperialism.”
Let’s bloody hope so.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 22:07 utc | 68

@ Drifter, §66:
The Russian for black is чёрный, with an umlaut on the e. This changes the e from ´ye´ to ´yo´, the o having a short sound as in English ´pot´.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 22:10 utc | 69

@ Drifter | Dec 1 2024 21:57 utc | 66
Depends on the language (in Ukrainian it’s чорний anyway) and whether you transliterate character by character according to pronunciation (Russian writes черный, pronounces “chorniy”).
Rusdian texts for beginner foreigners kindly put a diaeresis over the first vowel to indicate correct pronunciation (thus чёрный), but Russian texts for Russians don’t do this.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 1 2024 22:16 utc | 70

At Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 22:07 utc | 68
Yes, but just like the hugely popular truckers protest the media and our govt lie.
Do you have any source for the number of dead Canadians in Ukraine? I heard once around 500 now but cannot find the source.
Merv

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Dec 1 2024 22:16 utc | 71

If Zelensky cedes territory in exchange for NATO membership, maybe they should rename the country or remove some letters from the name.
Ukra? Aine? Urine?
Uran has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Dec 1 2024 22:18 utc | 72

*character by character OR by pronunciation

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 1 2024 22:18 utc | 73

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 22:10 utc | 69
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 1 2024 22:16 utc | 71
Thanks for that, I struggle with many Russian words, listen to the Yandex AI generated audio for guidance, and even that doesn’t always work. Now Spanish, that’s super easy by comparison!

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 1 2024 22:30 utc | 74

@ ossii, §32:
I think that´s true of the American neocons and the fossilized British, largely due to the heavy dose of virulent anti-Putin propaganda to which they´ve been subjected.
But there are cracks appearing – like Farage saying NATO provoked the Russian “invasion” and, of course, the excellent historical summaries by such as Prof. Jeffrey Sachs. It´s not far from there to persuade the masses (and, by extension, the governments) that Putin really doesn´t want to gobble up Europe: he only wants to govern Russia, in peace, nothing else: “one thing we don´t need is more land” he has said repeatedly. And, when you look at a map, you can understand his point. It´s England (still in imperial dreams) that wants to govern the world, through the might of America – not Russia, China, India nor anyone else.
Putin reasonably proposes keeping the Donbass and Black Sea coast as far west as Odessa because these are all Russian speaking and historically very Russian. Chornarus, the rump Ukraine around Kiev, he has said would be offered a referendum. Galicia & Bessarabia, though he´ll occupy them if the NATO remains intransigent, he would far prefer not to govern – and perhaps leave them to Poland and Rumania. This would have to be secured in cast iron, such as Poland & Rumania leaving NATO, handing over their Aegis Ashore systems, no foreign troops, etc. NATO is past its sell-by date anyway.
These are not unreasonable conditions for ending the war which I think Trump could accept if he had decent advisers like Flynn and Macgregor instead of the two horrors he´s picked: Gorka and Kellogg.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 22:33 utc | 75

Could someone be so kind as to provide some reading suggestions on the 2008 Russo-Gergian war?
Context/history/results

Posted by: TG1 | Dec 1 2024 22:41 utc | 76

Neo 10 – If RF drops most of the Dnieper bridges at one time, but leaves several of bridges intact it could cause panic among the UAF forces. This could cause a mass rush to get to the river’s western bank (leave one of the Kieve bridges intact – just imagine the retreating army moving into Kieve in pell mell fashion…)
Forcing them to retreat to the bridges is kind of akin to forcing the BEF into the Dunkirk salient in 1940, forcing a mass and chaotic evacuation (Germans blew or allowed the salient to exist, take your pick).
At this point, creating an army panic would accelerate the end to the war…..go for it…….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 1 2024 22:41 utc | 77

It´s not far from there to persuade the masses (and, by extension, the governments)
Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 22:33 utc | 76
Far from it. In fact what we are seeing is a pattern of ‘the masses’ with their eyes completely open to the issues at hand, voting in accordance with that knowledge, only for governments to refuse to enact anything they vote for. In France we have grand coalitions to keep out so-called ‘extremists’. In the uk we have a first past the post system which keeps Farage’s Reform out of power despite being the second largest party in the polls. And now in Romania we have potential legal challenges against an individual who wants NATO bases removed.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 1 2024 22:50 utc | 78

re: Merv Ritchie @ 72 – How many Canadians have died in Ukraine? Sorry Merv don’t know but far more than the dozen or so Global Affairs Canada officially claims.
US Proxy War with Russia in Ukraine Extends to Syria
https://rumble.com/v5uko4w-us-proxy-war-with-russia-in-ukraine-extends-to-syria.html
The New Atlas’s Brian Berletic on fighting reignites in Northern Syria.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 22:51 utc | 79

@ Night Tripper, §80:
Couldn´t agree with you more, NT.
But the pressure on Ursula Fond-of Lying´s Fourth Reich is building, especially in France.
“Populists are the leading party in Austria, Hungary and Slovakia have already liberated themselves.
Britain & Ireland are seething under the surface and Germany´s government will fall in the New Year.
Italy is also restive but Spain still highly divided, but the tide has turned against these undemocratic western governments.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 22:55 utc | 80

TG1 | Dec 1 2024 22:41 utc | 77
One source would be the archives here. MoA.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 1 2024 22:57 utc | 81

Must be a lot of Zionists here. You’re always talking about “Nazis” in Ukraine. Probably as many in that country as in US. Negligible to BS on the right wing meter. Pick up a book on Ukrainian history. YouTube and Substack are not legit sources of information, just opinion by the Cult of the Amateur (read that book first).

Posted by: Johannes | Dec 1 2024 22:59 utc | 82

theres an interview with zelenskiyjiyy(however thats spelled), where hes been asked about the neonazi battalions of azov, aidar etc and how theyve been incorporated into the ukrainian army.
“they are good people” is what he said.
you dont have to be a zionist or whatever, just listen to what they themself say.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 1 2024 23:05 utc | 83

@ Johannes | Dec 1 2024 22:59 utc | 83
To put things in a language you would be comfortable with. LOL. LMAO even.

Posted by: boneless | Dec 1 2024 23:05 utc | 84

This may be because the ardent Trump supporter is slowly realizing that Trump cannot end this war the way HE thought… without embarrassing himself in front of his own system or forcing the system to get rid of him. It is entirely possible that Trump is happy with Biden’s escalation… in the hope that he can use it as an excuse. Like every Western politician, HE is primarily concerned with saving face… not with people or democracy…
And he will have understood… threatening Putin will not get you out of a burning New York or Boston.
Posted by: einer der Nachdenkt | Dec 1 2024 17:11 utc | 24
I largely agree. The American Choice of installed, senile, slobbering Joe and the deep throat Cackler vs. Maga Trump left little choice. On the Domestic Front Trump had an insurmountable lead. On the Foreign Front Trump talked peace in the Ukraine.
Now with Kellogg, Waltz and Brit-owned Gorka barking like rabid dogs, either Trump is going to use them as cover, cut their throats, then make a deal with Putin or we are on to WWIII.
The GOOD NEWS for me, lost in the rhetoric of the Hazelnut Crusher, is the London/Brussels/D.C. Warmongers are now in the Crosshairs when they run to their Safe-Space Bunkers. Having Oreshnik targeting every Elist BullSheeter Bunker on the Planet is somehow warmly comforting.

Posted by: kupkee | Dec 1 2024 23:06 utc | 85

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 1 2024 22:03 utc | 67
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Muslims don’t believe Jesus was killed. If you think about it, there is no need for an all-knowing and almighty Good to create a “son” in order to forgive sins. It sounds like a bad movie plot, not the work of the divine.
If you’re curious pull harder on that string. There is a lot of scholarship on the subject. Contrasted with Christianity there is many times more scholarship in Islam, not least of which a full accounting of Mary’s life.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 23:15 utc | 86

On March 15, 2024, the Russian Defence Ministry stated that Canada had sent 1,005 mercenaries to fight in Ukraine, and that 491 were then KIA.
Earlier, on 9 March 2022, the National Post newspaper reported that an anonymous representative of the International Legion of Territorial Defence of Ukraine had confirmed 550 Canadians were specifically serving in the Canadian Ukrainian Brigade fighting in Ukraine

Posted by: visitor | Dec 1 2024 23:24 utc | 87

Posted by: Johannes | Dec 1 2024 22:59 utc | 83
You can always soothe yourself by reading the NYT and the Economist.

Posted by: visitor | Dec 1 2024 23:26 utc | 88

@ LoveDonbass, §87:
However much scholarship there is in Islam, in practice it is a religion of thugs – arrogant, menacing, intolerant thugs.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 23:27 utc | 89

DS map update/analysis:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Overall: Weak day of 11.9 kmsq. (Compare to 24/day in NOV.)
S to N:
1. 3.1 kmsq N of Velyka Novasilka. Both northerly supply roads were cute (one from the SW remains). And the town of Novyi Komar was entered. VN looking more and more in peril.
2. 0.1 kmsq in Kurakhove.
3. 8.7 kmsq SW of Berestove (Pischane bloom area).
4. Small RFA advance in Kursk, near NW part of the incursion.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 1 2024 23:35 utc | 90

2. Are you aware that the Dnieper bisects the city of Kiev?
Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 1 2024 18:04 utc | 35

Not just Kiev, but also Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Dneprodzerzhinsk, and Kremenchuk, and often those cities are not really divisible, i.e. power plants would be on one side of the river, waste water treatment on the other, etc. You know the Ukies will shut down access to whatever is on their side out of spite – because that is exactly what they have done every time in the past (Crimea most famously, but also Donetsk has no water for a third year in a row now because they shut it down the moment they no longer had to keep water supply to Mariupol going).
And it is not a recipe for peace in any way, of course – we have that situation now in Nikopol and Energodar and in the Kherson region. Sure, serious land invasion is impossible, but so is normal life, because drones and projectiles are lobbed across the river all the time.

Posted by: ANON2022 | Dec 1 2024 23:43 utc | 91

Posted by: Johannes | Dec 1 2024 22:59 utc | 83
If you want people to understand the “Nazis”, or what you claim to be lack thereof, in Ukraine, why are you pushing some stupid self-help book about how some morons among us get their information from “the Internet”, when in fact that’s not what it’s about at all?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Keen

In 2005, Keen wrote that Web 2.0 is a “grand utopian movement” similar to “communist society” as described by Karl Marx. He also states:
It worships the creative amateur: the self-taught filmmaker, the dorm-room musician, the unpublished writer. It suggests that everyone–even the most poorly educated and inarticulate amongst us–can and should use digital media to express and realize themselves. Web 2.0 “empowers” our creativity, it “democratizes” media, it “levels the playing field” between experts and amateurs. The enemy of Web 2.0 is “elitist” traditional media.[9]
— Andrew Keen, The Weekly Standard

So a guy writing in the Weekly Standard criticizing “Web 2.0” as evil “Marxism” – LMAO – and he is inherently praising “traditional media” as somehow a wellspring of truth and learning? Again – LMFAO. He’s not even keeping the ‘apples’ and ‘oranges’ straight. Many of us would agree in principle that Web 2.0 and the elevation of rank amateurs is bad, that’s more a reference to the generation of “influencers” who chase clicks, likes, follows, etc. and not a reference to well read, experienced writers at Substack and geopolitical experts who use YouTube (before they get censored, demonetized and replaced by “influencers”).
IF you want to learn about the Nazis in Ukraine, read this and get back to us:
https://www.abebooks.com/9782315010646/Operation-Hidden-Truth-Ukraine-Revealed-2315010640/plp
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123220251-operation-z

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 1 2024 23:57 utc | 92

More on this “Cult of the Amateur”…

Keen stresses the importance of media literacy and claims that user generated blogs, wikis and other “democratized” media, cannot match the resources of mainstream media outlets.[12] Pointing to examples like being able to gather teams together, travel to dangerous locations (sometimes spending years in the region) and having skilled and experienced editors oversee the process,[10] Keen forecasts that if the current Web 2.0 mentality—where content is either given away or stolen—continues, in 25 years[specify] there will not exist a professional music business, newspaper industry or publishing business and challenges his audience to question whether they value these or not.

Cannot match the resources to lie and cover up that the mainstream traditional media has? Good! Don’t have the bandwidth and money to flood the airwaves and information ecosystem with accusations of WMDs? Excellent! It means those Substack authors and YouTube geopolitical commentators/experts are far more beholden to the truth – and must EARN their audience’s trust! Does that apply to The Grauniad? Der Spooogle? NYT? WaPo? LOL! And he mentions Wikipedia. No shit, Sherlock! Wikipedia – on any matters of economics or geopolitics – is completely run and managed by people pushing the same narratives as corrupt, lying western governments through their more traditional (aka “legacy”) channels. The CIA has full control over Wikipedia on those matters and narratives.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 2 2024 0:03 utc | 93

However much scholarship there is in Islam, in practice it is a religion of thugs – arrogant, menacing, intolerant thugs.
Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2024 23:27 utc | 90

Much western projection? As the ‘good book’ asks, why do you pay such attention to the mote of dust in your brother’s eye but overlook the boulder in your own?

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 2 2024 0:22 utc | 94

Trailer to “At the edge of the abyss”
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1863302609081344203

Posted by: Mary | Dec 2 2024 0:26 utc | 95

An informative breakdown of the NATO training of so-called-ukrainian brigades by History Legends is out.
There’s a lot of talk about how NATO is “learning”. I agree to an extent regarding the the technical analysis of weapon systems side of it and some levels of drone warfare integration. However, I still see no evidence at all that combat units themselves are being properly adjusted in any way. All while the evidence to contrary continue to surface up.
No lessons learned, it appears. If NATO does not know how to / care to properly prepare its proxy units at its own training bases, how can they properly prepare themselves?

Posted by: boneless | Dec 2 2024 0:29 utc | 96

Posted by: Johannes | Dec 1 2024 22:59 utc | 83
You’re making a complete dumbfuck out of yourself…It’s NOT THE NUMBER of (neo)-Nazis, neither absolute nor relative, but WHERE and HOW they have been PLACED IN SOCIETY…To help you out a little: Here is a very short video by Yevhen Karas about the events on the Maidan…The basics of political action…Before you act like a big mouth, you should study the basics of history…
https://youtu.be/g6bKivSjoAg?si=ABOB5SzHH8NxvZQa

Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 2 2024 0:29 utc | 97

As such, the engagement of many involved in last week’s Quebec student strike for Palestine in protests against the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in Montreal was important.
It suggests the popular uprising against Israel’s genocide may be broadening its outlook towards challenging Canadian foreign policy and imperialism.”
Let’s bloody hope so.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 22:07 utc | 68

Engler made much the same point when he appeared on “Crosstalk” with Peter Lavelle recently. He’s quite good at linking different struggles and issues together.
FWIW, getting involved with the anti-apartheid movement in Canada helped some to better understand racist colonialism in Canada and, therefore, more solid support for FN struggles against the odious and two-faced/duplicitous Canadian regime.

Posted by: NH | Dec 2 2024 0:33 utc | 98

No real revelation here but the west starts to understand that is severely outgunned without Nukes. The question in my mind is Trumps action as his belief has always been that small attacks are necessary for respect ie his accounts of covert attacks on Russian soldiers in Syria. Yes I think he is really that insulated and stupid. My belief is Trump will perform some sort of attack on Russia as soon as he is in office as a precursor to negotiations as he believes that creates a position of strength. Frankly I do not think Russia will accept anything but a declaration of Ukrainian neutrality and that is not on the table.
At that point Trumps philosophy is to escalate. Trump true love for better or worse has always been covert actions. Demonstrations of destruction that do not openly embarrass perceived adversaries.
We will have to see but It looks to me we are shaping up to have a regime that not only supports the ruthless genocide in Gaza but will escalate in Ukraine as it comes to terms the only thing Russia will accept is a declaration of neutrality.
This is why I could not vote for Trump. I feel his ideas about use of force are fundamentally flawed. Force does not create respect amongst other great powers. It can create fear in lessor powers , neither of these are true solutions. Respect is created by honest relationships in which trust is valued. Trump will feel the need to upstage the Biden regime deep state successes in Lebanon and Syria. Our new pronouns may well be f***** and fooled again as this insulated Manhattan playboy YMCA song dancer uses his inane philosophy to try to navigate the most dangerous time in recent history.
Oreshnik represents a new escalation where new technologies other than nuclear weapons are introduced. USA can not respond in kind with this technology but Trump may feel it is necessary to respond with other technologies it possesses and these responses may be disproportionate by the nature of those technologies. We can hope his actions are tempered by his diverse family his Lebanese son in law and his Slavic wife. I question their influence when his international appointees constitute the possibly the most neocon pro war picks ever witnessed. Im afraid those picks indicate staffing even worse than Bidens although it is hard to accept that foreign policy could be worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2pqC7_eW8k

Posted by: Fred | Dec 2 2024 0:44 utc | 99

Y’all keep on about this Chernorus or Chornorus or wut…
My vote for the Nom de Guerre of the new Repubic is
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Posted by: Fubar El Haq | Dec 2 2024 0:52 utc | 100