Multiple undersea cables and one gas pipeline have been cut in recent months
@Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 29 2024 14:01 utc | 4
“Who benefits?” should always be asked first.

Posted by: librul | Dec 29 2024 14:18 utc | 4

Baltic tanker war
The Finnish tabloid Ilta-Sanomat has collected some Russian nationalist commentary of the seizure of the Eagle S tanker. I have translated one of the opinion pieces below, as published by TASS in Russia.

Expert Stepanov suggested escorting tankers after Eagle S incident – TASS, December 27, 2024
A senior researcher at the Institute of Latin America of the Russian Academy of Sciences believes that Finland has received orders for a series of provocations against the Russian merchant fleet
MOSCOW, December 27. /TASS/. Escorting Russian merchant ships by Russian Navy ships will help avoid a repeat of incidents like the detention of the Eagle S tanker by the Finnish Coast Guard. This opinion was expressed to TASS by military expert, program director of the Academy of Political Sciences, senior research fellow at the Institute of Latin America of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Stepanov.
“There is probably only one way out – escorting our and friendly ships with a navy. But even here, no one will give guarantees to avoid provocations from the impudent and frostbitten young naval officers. Perhaps, the plan for subsequent escalation lies in such incidents. After all, an attack on a military ship is a casus belli, and no one has cancelled this. For example, in 1898, the explosion of the American military ship “Maine” in the Havana roadstead served as a pretext for the start of the war between the USA and Spain,” Stepanov said.
In his opinion, Helsinki received orders from Washington to carry out a series of provocations on the Baltic sea lanes against the Russian merchant fleet with the aim of blocking regional trade logistics and giving NATO total control over the sea area.
“The recently announced plans of Denmark to ban the passage of Russian tankers through its waters “by order of the EU” fit into the same logic, which is a direct violation of the Copenhagen Treaty of 1857 and the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea of ​​1982. But the legal aspects and nuances of regulating the straits of NATO, apparently, have long been of little interest, and they will follow exclusively the logic of forceful pressure and blocking of sea transport corridors,” Stepanov emphasized.
The expert believes that NATO is planning to lock the Kaliningrad enclave, the Russian merchant fleet at the mouth of the Neva, and at the same time block the Leningrad naval base.
Earlier, Reuters reported that Finnish police and border guards detained an oil tanker flying the Cook Islands flag on suspicion of involvement in damaging the Estlink 2 submarine cable, as well as two other cables between Estonia and Finland. Stepanov noted that a Chinese tanker traveling on a similar route at the same time was not detained.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 29 2024 15:28 utc | 6

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 29 2024 15:28 utc | 10
Russia has superior naval missile technology compared to Nato (USA) in terms of range and speed. Obviously it’s easy to understand sending a naval ship to protect tankers, but it strips away RUAF advantage by potentially forcing a close range knife-fight situation.
Placing these new ground based naval missiles and ships RUAF navy can potentially strike anything in the entire Baltic, including shipping in the English channel. They should create such a pre-condition in case Nato tries to truly enforce a blockade.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 29 2024 15:34 utc | 8

unimperator @13
Sounds great! Give one warning then hit to kill.
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Give one warning, then give another, then give another, and so on until Russia’s red lines are salami sliced back to nothing.
Having a capability is great, but it is useless without a will to use it. America’s Europeon gimps clearly believe Russia lacks the will to act against them, which is why they are going openly pirate with everything short of the Jolly Roger and the peg leg. I wonder why that is? Maybe if Lavrov gives them a stern talking-to they will pipe down.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 29 2024 15:53 utc | 10

Meanwhile the US is focusing on the Black Sea.
from Heritage
The Black Sea is an active region for geostrategic competition among the U.S., Russia, and China—and it must become a high priority for the U.S. and NATO.
The Black Sea Security Act, currently under consideration in the Senate, seeks to rectify the deficiencies in U.S. policy.
Congress should raise the level of U.S. engagement with allies and bolster its economic–military footprint in the Black Sea region.
from Defense Post
Construction on Europe’s largest NATO military base has begun in southeast Romania, expanding the 57th Air Base at the Mihail Kogălniceanu Airport.
Once completed, the base will cover 3,000 hectares (7,413 acres) and have a total perimeter of 19 miles (30 kilometers).
The expansion is estimated to cost 2.5 billion euros ($2.7 billion) and will be completed by 2030.
The 57th Air Base currently functions as a hub for NATO policing activities by the Black Sea, hosting various inter-allied forces to protect the port country of Constanța from potential Russian attacks.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 29 2024 16:57 utc | 12

thanks b and welcome back!
i am interested in it all.. that is a problem as i don’t have enough time to cover it all.. thanks petri and others here..
@ William Gruff | Dec 29 2024 15:53 utc | 10
you’ve been a bit of a one trick pony of late.. russia is not attacking the west and that is not going to work is essentially what you appear to be saying.. i suspect they are getting close, but i get your point.. the only way to deal with a bully is by confronting them directly.. i hope it happens.. i think it is going to happen and it isn’t going to be pretty..

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 17:54 utc | 14

@ librul | Dec 29 2024 17:56 utc | 15
you’re a bad reader librul, lol…
“Use as open (not related to Ukraine and Palestine) thread …
Posted by b on December 29, 2024 at 13:19 UTC”

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 18:24 utc | 16

I wonder if some nations should see the F-35 as purely a reconnaisance airplane and so only buy a couple. You use it to examine areas you intend to bomb and then send in missiles. Trying to assemble a fleet of these for bombing seems extremely expensive.

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 29 2024 20:05 utc | 18

unimperator @ 2

I would also note that no evidence of a single cut electric or internet cable has been presented.

Exactly, at least someone gets it. I haven’t checked in lately so maybe it’s been discussed but the cables cut in the Baltic are complete bs like the N.Koreans fighting in Kursk. At first it caught me off guard and I fell for it, it’s hard to get past the conditioning of the subtle Cold War era psyops I grew up with where they mixed 10% bullshit into 90% truth, but for a while now, since 9-11, it’s been progressing towards an unabashed crass 100% bullshit, 100% of the time. After the third claim of cables being cut with no proof and no signs anywhere of consequences or people being affect, no underwater films clips of the damage and repair crews, and of course blaming the inscrutable yellow peril, I’m 110% certain it’s bullshit.
Putin and the MoD simply refuse to take the bait and escalate to give the west their casus belli, so they are going to escalate directly now, blockade the Baltic Sea to Russian shipping and force Russia to attack NATO. This is stepping outside the SMO, outside the proxy war gladiator dance in the area both sides have been doing till now. NATO is about lunge in a way that they don’t need to commit ground troops, where they and the USA are strongest, their navy and air power.
Maybe it’s just to gather up some high value cards to bring to the negotiating table, but simple truth is Putin has 50 divisions in Ukraine and NATO, like the Pope, has none, I’m not so sure what Trump thinks he’s going to bargain with. Maybe that’s what this is.
Otherwise, the USA seems ever more desperate for WW3, blockading the Baltic Sea will get them that, it’s not a red line, it’s an act of war. My bet for the two places on earth most likely to get nuked are Yemen and Finland, not for tactical or strategic reasons but because no one in the Golden Billion will give a shit, so that’s the best place for nuke brinksmanship, remote demonized country in the desert, and remote reindeer land in the frozen waste of Europe.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 29 2024 20:21 utc | 20

I should have proofread my last post before submitting it.
I meant to say the countries of Australia, New Zealand, and JAPAN.
When I said Russia may not want to seize ships in the Black Sea for a variety of reasons, the one most on my mind was Turkey’s unpredictability. I think Turkey is an enemy of Russia, given that Erdogan seems to have imperialistic ambitions and Turkey has traditionally seen Russia as a rival during the time of the Ottoman Empire. However Russia may not want to openly oppose Turkey until it has subjugated Ukraine and solidified its control of the North coast of the Black Sea.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 29 2024 20:29 utc | 22

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 29 2024 20:07 utc | 19
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What have the Russians ever done under Putin that would lead you to believe that they would engage in a game of tit-for-tat?
And to what end? It escalates and escalates until … what?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 20:34 utc | 24

Jeju Air plane crashes while landing in South Korea, killing 179
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/29/dozens-killed-in-south-koreas-muan-as-plane-veers-off-runway-and-crashes
“Images which have been on the media here do appear to show the plane landing on its belly, skidding along the runway, followed then by a huge explosion,” he said.
The plane safely landed without it’s landing gears down, but ran out of runway and hit a huge embankment. Questions are being asked why it landed so close to the end of the runway.

Posted by: Friend_of_MLK | Dec 29 2024 21:26 utc | 26

Korean airliner crash: suspicious.
I am not well informed on the details but since when does one not put the plane in a holding loop in order to empty the tanks before attempting a belly landing? Since never!
Yet in this case one still has a big fireball and everyone but two people burnt to death.
Does not pass the smell test. An entirely avoidable disaster if it was due to such a large human error.
IIRC passenger airliners are no longer (since many years ago) allowed to transport stuff like lithium batteries in their cargo hold.
Has anyone had a look at what the pilot discussion board(s) is(/are) saying?
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Norwegian ship and Russian shipwreck: worrying overreaction.
With Russian media itself confirming or reporting that there was zero danger to those in the Russian lifeboat and that the Norwegian ship was under instruction by the Spanish life/coast guard authorities to act as they did what we’re left with looks like a case of (understandably but due to all the unrelated issues with the west in general) insulted Russian officials overreacting in a situation where they feel free to kick downwards.
A clear sign that the Russians are genuinely angry and fuming beneath the facade, and it doesn’t have anything at all to do with any lifeboat.
“The west” doesn’t understand, emphatize, nor care about this kind of “repressed” anger and/or thinks it’s a good thing but it isn’t; it’s the kind of thing that ends up destroying the world or a sizeable part of it (preferably only the US).
For us here at MoA it’s easy to understand and sympathize with the Russians but it’s still not good that we’re now all clearly in this position where both the US (fully) and Russia (increasingly) are irrational.
· · · · · · · · · ·
MK Ultra file release: “I heard you like holes so I put some holes in your holes”.
Also Bluebird and Artichoke.
Original files destroyed in 73 so here are 1200 documents that others had and used for writing books etc. half a century ago.
In other words nothing new. Yeah it could still be useful but…
Link to the released documents on old US nazi style crimes:
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/dnsa-intelligence/2024-12-23/cia-behavior-control-experiments-focus-new-scholarly
Btw I hate that an NGO is being deliberately stupid enough to call itself “the National Security Archive” which obviously obfuscates “NSA” as in “the National Security Agency”, especially in internet search results. Fully retarded dimwits or malevolent saboteurs? Likely both. “Transparency” my ass.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 29 2024 21:57 utc | 28

Gee, you wouldn’t want to block a runway for a mere 179 souls.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 29 2024 21:36 utc | 27
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Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 22:08 utc | 30

@ Ed | Dec 29 2024 21:36 utc | 27
that’s harsh and very judgmental ed..i am sure the pilot wanted to save every person on that plane and the airport staff would have too..

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 22:19 utc | 32

@ Jo | Dec 29 2024 22:17 utc | 31
Professor Anthony Glees is a real ignoramus working for the intel agencies, or chatham house, whatever the case may be… the problem with the uk, is it has descended into some orwellian world of alternative reality… these folks probably believe the bullshit they are being paid to fabricate, or at least give off the appearance of believing it… bbc is much the same… what a cesspool of disinfo the uk has become..

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 22:22 utc | 34

@ Jo | Dec 29 2024 22:22 utc | 33
i don’t know that they knew the landing gear wasn’t working, or if they did, it was only after there was no opportunity to alter their flight course… i think we’ll have to wait to find out more info..

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 22:27 utc | 36

A decades old pipedream by the West wishing to expand the empire of pure capitalism … every single administration from 1992 forward build on this premise to destroy the Russian Federation and subjugate the leaders in the Kremlin.
From Ivo Daalder and John Kerry: “Making Russia a pariah state” repeated at the Atlantic Council. Bush-Cheney declared war on Russia at the NATO Bucharest Summit in 2008.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 29 2024 22:52 utc | 38

On Jeju flight S.Korea
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmptA6s-1g

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 29 2024 23:12 utc | 40

I gather Lavrov had nothing better to do on this Sunday than to submit to another interview. I’m unwilling to count how many this makes in 2024, but I’ll guess it’s one per week, although even that seems too few, “Lavrov Talks Arms Control & Negotiations with Rossiya Segodnya,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/lavrov-talks-arms-control-and-negotiations

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2024 23:39 utc | 42

Perhaps the crash with the South Korean plane is a warning from the Deep State to the elites of South Korea.
Posted by: N | Dec 29 2024 23:33 utc | 41
I literally hate with extreme malice the people who make idiotic conspiracy comments like this. It is far more likely the 737 was bumped and damage by Santa’s sleigh when returning to the North Pole.

Posted by: just in | Dec 29 2024 23:49 utc | 44

test

Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 0:41 utc | 46

cont
Which he does here more specifically: only addressing the confusing issues. for example

We are ready for negotiations, but they must be aimed at eliminating the root causes of the Ukrainian crisis and taking into account the real situation on the ground.
President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin clearly outlined our principled approaches in his speech at the Foreign Ministry on June 14, as well as during the year-end news conference on December 19. In particular, we are talking about the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, ensuring its non-aligned, neutral and nuclear-free status, eliminating long-term threats to Russia’s security emanating from the west, including NATO expansion. Kiev must assume specific obligations to ensure the rights, freedoms and interests of Russian-speaking citizens and, of course, recognize the territorial realities enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Lavrov was never that specific or detailed the list of key issues in his last press conference.

Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 0:43 utc | 48

How very annoying. Let’s try it again in full:
@ 42 karlof1 | Dec 29 2024 23:39 utc | 42
My opinion is that Lavrov was directed to front the media again to correct and clarify in simple terms the confusing things he said at his last press conference. Which he does here more specifically: only addressing the confusing issues. for example

We are ready for negotiations, but they must be aimed at eliminating the root causes of the Ukrainian crisis and taking into account the real situation on the ground.
President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin clearly outlined our principled approaches in his speech at the Foreign Ministry on June 14, as well as during the year-end news conference on December 19. In particular, we are talking about the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, ensuring its non-aligned, neutral and nuclear-free status, eliminating long-term threats to Russia’s security emanating from the west, including NATO expansion. Kiev must assume specific obligations to ensure the rights, freedoms and interests of Russian-speaking citizens and, of course, recognize the territorial realities enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Lavrov was never that specific or detailed the list of key issues in his last press conference.
But again unfortunately, Lavrov skips over, overlooks the implications of the two security treaties presented by Russia to the US and Nato in Dec 2021. That being that any and all US Nato military personnel and weapons deployments would be banned from Ukraine and the 1997 Nato expansion nations.
So no Nato or US airborne troops or bases in Poland, Baltics, Eastern Europe ex-warsaw nations etc No Missiles systems in Romania either. NO Nato expansion to Ukraine or anyone else.
I say Karl’s interpretation about others ” the myth of NATO rollback arose from” is wrong. The people who use the phrase do not say it means “the removal of those states from NATO” – this is an incorrect interpretation and assumption made by Karl of other peoples statements imo
When this phrase (the Rollback of Nato) is used it means “deals with the deployment of military forces (and weapons) on the territory of non-NATO states at that time (in 1997) Meaning the current deployments must be rolled back to a 1997 status It is what they have always said and meant.
Russia nor anyone else has ever demanded that nations who joined Nato must quit that Bloc or Treaty. Or mean that when using the word “rollback”.
The Dec 2021 security treaty proposals was always about the status of arms and deployments and the demand to roll them back to what the situation was in 1997. When commentators use the word rollback of NATO, that is what they refer to and mean.

Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 0:45 utc | 50

They never stop blaming and making excuses: after decades of washing their hands of what the US has done repeatedly. All they have are wistful words.

In an interview with TASS news agency on Monday, Lavrov said that “one of the reasons for the situation degrading was the former leadership’s inability to satisfy the population’s basic needs amid a protracted civil conflict.”
“A large part of the blame for this lies with Washington, which has de facto occupied the most resource-rich north-eastern region of Syria, and is also exerting serious sanctions pressure on Damascus,” the diplomat stated. He claimed that this economic “strangulation” by Washington has resulted in discontent among the population.
Lavrov warns Israel against ‘sowing a storm’ in Syria READ MORE: Lavrov warns Israel against ‘sowing a storm’ in Syria
According to Lavrov, faced with dire economic conditions, Assad’s government had to implement unpopular measures, which in turn resulted in protests. And while Moscow had been providing Damascus with humanitarian assistance, the former authorities failed to engage in meaningful dialogue with the opposition and neighboring states.
https://www.swentr.site/russia/610156-lavrov-us-syria-economy-assad-fall/

While Russia, China and the rest of the world did nothing to stand up to this US criminal behavior – to seriously support Syria with military force of arms, and lead global sanctions against the USA and all the Anti-Syria Coalition incl the oppressive Arab state religious monarchists — which they should have done over 2 decades ago and non-stop ever since.
Now they have the US military forces inside Ukraine and inside Taiwan – weak as piss. All they have is: “US bad” “US is naughty” “The US should not do that, it’s all their fault.”

Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 2:27 utc | 52

While Russia, China and the rest of the world did nothing to stand up to this US criminal behavior – to seriously support Syria with military force of arms, and lead global sanctions against the USA and all the Anti-Syria Coalition incl the oppressive Arab state religious monarchists — which they should have done over 2 decades ago and non-stop ever since.
Now they have the US military forces inside Ukraine and inside Taiwan – weak as piss. All they have is: “US bad” “US is naughty” “The US should not do that, it’s all their fault.”
Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 2:27 utc | 52

(Wah, wah, sounds of baby crying) Why won’t Russia, China, Iran, and the rest of the resistance overextend themselves by fighting faraway battles with their scant resources? I don’t care if the Global South has for centuries had its wealth carted away to the West, leaving the Global South weak and barely able to defend themselves. I want the resistance to expend their resources just like the American Empire that can suck the blood of subjugated nations! And then the resistance would collapse internally as their economies implode, just like I secretly want it to!
What are Americans and Europeans doing to stop the West’s criminal behavior? You can’t keep deflecting blame by claiming that your governments don’t represent you while getting fat sucking off the teats of Western imperialism.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 2:59 utc | 54

Talking about labor aristocracy and house slaves prompted this comment. I know people hate reading long texts, but here’s hoping that this will reach some receptive minds out there.
LABOR ARISTOCRACY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_aristocracy (Yes, I know what source I’m quoting)

In Marxist and anarchist theories, the labor aristocracy is the segment of the working class which has better wages and working conditions compared to the broader proletariat, often enabled by their specialized skills, and in a global context by the exploitation of colonized or underdeveloped countries. Due to their better-off condition, such workers are more likely to align with the bourgeoisie to maintain capitalism instead of advocating for broader working-class solidarity and socialist revolution.
The concept was introduced by independently by revolutionary socialists Mikhail Bakunin (in the 1870s) and Friedrich Engels (in 1858), the latter describing the emergence of trade unions consisting of such workers in Great Britain in the late 19th century; Engels’ theory was further developed by Vladimir Lenin, who tied the concept to imperialism. Revolutionary industrial unions, such as the Industrial Workers of the World, used the term to describe trade-based business unionism, which they considered exclusionary.

HOUSE NEGRO AND FIELD NEGRO
https://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxt17.html

Malcolm describes the difference between the “house Negro” and the “field Negro.”
Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan. 23 January 1963.
Transcribed text from audio excerpt.
So you have two types of Negro. The old type and the new type. Most of you know the old type. When you read about him in history during slavery he was called “Uncle Tom.” He was the house Negro. And during slavery you had two Negroes. You had the house Negro and the field Negro.
The house Negro usually lived close to his master. He dressed like his master. He wore his master’s second-hand clothes. He ate food that his master left on the table. And he lived in his master’s house–probably in the basement or the attic–but he still lived in the master’s house.
So whenever that house Negro identified himself, he always identified himself in the same sense that his master identified himself. When his master said, “We have good food,” the house Negro would say, “Yes, we have plenty of good food.” “We” have plenty of good food. When the master said that “we have a fine home here,” the house Negro said, “Yes, we have a fine home here.” When the master would be sick, the house Negro identified himself so much with his master he’d say, “What’s the matter boss, we sick?” His master’s pain was his pain. And it hurt him more for his master to be sick than for him to be sick himself. When the house started burning down, that type of Negro would fight harder to put the master’s house out than the master himself would.
But then you had another Negro out in the field. The house Negro was in the minority. The masses–the field Negroes were the masses. They were in the majority. When the master got sick, they prayed that he’d die. [Laughter] If his house caught on fire, they’d pray for a wind to come along and fan the breeze.
If someone came to the house Negro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” naturally that Uncle Tom would say, “Go where? What could I do without boss? Where would I live? How would I dress? Who would look out for me?” That’s the house Negro. But if you went to the field Negro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” he wouldn’t even ask you where or how. He’d say, “Yes, let’s go.” And that one ended right there.
So now you have a twentieth-century-type of house Negro. A twentieth-century Uncle Tom. He’s just as much an Uncle Tom today as Uncle Tom was 100 and 200 years ago. Only he’s a modern Uncle Tom. That Uncle Tom wore a handkerchief around his head. This Uncle Tom wears a top hat. He’s sharp. He dresses just like you do. He speaks the same phraseology, the same language. He tries to speak it better than you do. He speaks with the same accents, same diction. And when you say, “your army,” he says, “our army.” He hasn’t got anybody to defend him, but anytime you say “we” he says “we.” “Our president,” “our government,” “our Senate,” “our congressmen,” “our this and our that.” And he hasn’t even got a seat in that “our” even at the end of the line. So this is the twentieth-century Negro. Whenever you say “you,” the personal pronoun in the singular or in the plural, he uses it right along with you. When you say you’re in trouble, he says, “Yes, we’re in trouble.”
But there’s another kind of Black man on the scene. If you say you’re in trouble, he says, “Yes, you’re in trouble.” [Laughter] He doesn’t identify himself with your plight whatsoever.
SOURCE: X, Malcolm. “The Race Problem.” African Students Association and NAACP Campus Chapter. Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan. 23 January 1963.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 3:26 utc | 56

Ornot ( Dec 29 2024 22:24 utc | 35 ):
Thanks for the link! Reading some of it makes the crash look weirder and also makes me more unsure what the hell was going on.
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Since the comment by “N” got flamed I won’t suggest something even more outrageous XP

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 30 2024 4:06 utc | 58

@ Jane | Dec 30 2024 4:09 utc | 59 who wrote
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Something does not compute here. Musk needs to be reined in and reminded that he is a foreign national and don’t overstep.
”
The US and the Western empire are run by foreigners and foreign nationals which I call the God Of Mammon cult. Our civilization war is forcing the cult to show their trans-sovereign team members. Musk has been on the inside since before Trump, IMO…..follow the money

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 30 2024 4:29 utc | 60

@ psychohistorian | Dec 30 2024 4:29 utc | 60
you’ll get a kick out of this pic! president musk and first lady donnie..
https://postimg.cc/cKdh5ZG9

Posted by: james | Dec 30 2024 4:35 utc | 62

I see ex-prez carter finally karked it. I just read sanger’s obit for him in the nyt which makes a big deal of pulling him up for the one decent thing the bloke did which was visit the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea when clinton was prez. Apparently he tried to smooth over the fuss clinton was making over Kim Il-sung’s decision that the only way to truly protect his country was to get some nukes, a very similar situation as the one Iran currently faces. Ownership of this foul shit appears to be the sole way of keeping yer nation free of invasion and takeover by lunatic amerikan funded mercenaries.
Apart from that there is little to commend carter as prez. Does anyone else remember that it was porn publisher Bob Guccione who alerted the masses to the reality that carter lived in the backpocket of an organisation with the organised crime name, ‘The Tri-lateral Commission’? Up until that point (a couple months into the prezdency) many had hoped he could be fair dinkum but this ‘commission’ which appears to be an early version of the davos stinkathon quickly disabused us (hey we were young).
I remember that because it was when I concluded amerika couldn’t be saved it must be balkanised.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 30 2024 5:10 utc | 64

I see we have a new flea. Lavrov had yet another interview with TASS on Monday. Our new flea didn’t bother saying that the supposed “rollback” hasn’t ever appeared in any other presser of speech by either Lavrov or Putin since the SMO began. And what triggered that to happen? NATO and Outlaw US Empire’s refusal to deal specifically with Russia’s serious security proposals, wherein Russia warned it would need to resort to a “military technical operation” if rebuffed. The basic kernel of what Russia wants security-wise has formed the basis for its negotiations since the outset. That position has now hardened to the fact that Russia and its Eurasian partners intend to formulate a new Eurasian Security Structure that negates the need for NATO and replaces it. Clearly given the great obtuseness shown by the Trump camp, Lavrov and Putin have reiterated themselves to do what they can to ensure Russia’s position is understood. We continue to have lots of proof they aren’t understood, and not just here at MoA.
Just for fun, I conducted a Yandex search using Lavrov rollback as the search terms and was not at all surprised to get zero responses.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 30 2024 5:55 utc | 66

You can lie to yourself.
You can lie to others.
The bigger folly, is lying to oneself.
Not excepting, a condition of yourself.
A betrayal of your spirit, shallow wisdom.
Lying to other people, you become an actor,
an imposter. In both instances you distance
yourself from who you are.
In today’s heavy ether, lying to yourself, lying
to others is par for the course.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 30 2024 6:49 utc | 68

@69
A maxim of humans.
It sure ain’t pretty though.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 30 2024 7:23 utc | 70

@71
War, atrocities, the ugliest of ugly human endeavors.
Identifying injustice and talking about it is noble.
I’ll leave it at that.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 30 2024 8:13 utc | 72

re Aleph_Null@dec30 2024 7:45 who said“I’m a bloody hypocrite. I should be wrecking every family dinner with heartfelt communications, such as my outrage over idiotic nuclear brinksmanship with Russia (the way I did on Thanksgiving).”
I’m less certain about that nowadays. I called me bro who lives in Oz on xmas eve to wish him & his all the best & to thank him in advance for inviting my daughter & grandson to their xmas dinner.
Somehow ukraine came up, I suggested as I have been lately that it is essential to study objective pieces (books or articles) on Russia before blaming Russia for everything as western media are even less trustworthy on that now than they have ever been. I was trying to be gentle as he has become less & less of a critical thinker as he ages. Pretgty soon the argument got hot & we ended call before the things we wanted to say were said.
Easy to do in such a polarised world and whilst we can blame lame FukUS propaganda insufficiently for that is the cause, it doesn’t allow us to say other in itys own way important stuff.
I believe that what I and many of us here know will be accepted truths eventually but the level of tossage pushed out by the elites is destroying relationships.
Let there be more Luigi Mangione’s cos until we get these creeps running scared I know there are gonna many decent humans on the outer with each other just because some rich prick or asset of a rich prick knows which side his/her bread is buttered on and deceives the unwitting.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 30 2024 8:34 utc | 74

cut cables, tanker “Eagle 2”
The AIS track shows it lingering over the cable area.
It is said to be missing one anchor.

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 30 2024 9:24 utc | 76

Where’s PeterAu when he’s needed…. Nevermind….
A hearty “fuck off troll”. Karl has contributed more to this forum than you ever can

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 30 2024 10:28 utc | 78

@ Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 3:26 utc | 56
It’s also goes under the colloquialism – ‘I’m Alright,Jack’ – which was part of the Post War revanchism to push back against ‘equality’ and the success of communism in resisting the genocidal onslaught under nazism, by divide and rule of the ‘working classes’ – in fact there is a film with Peter Sellars being just that working Class traitor and a toff actor being the nicer aristo class traitor – Union man .. the reversal narratives being contrived from as far back as the 60’s – that eventually led to infiltration and traducing of the ‘collective bargaining’ concept by organised DS agit prop moles planted in such social democratic institutions and parties – it led to Thatcherism, Nu Labour Incorporated Blairism, Neo Colonial war invasions, complete destruction and privatisation of Public Services and Assets it to the hands of ‘Hedge Funds’ and now to the final folly – another failed attempt at ‘taking Russia and EurAsia’.
Malcolm X speaking in the year I was born – if coming back would say – sheesh you still didn’t sort out the real Massa’s?
They aren’t the willing imperial tools white , gammon, or whatever- the collective ‘House N’s!’ – they are the Old Slave Owners, The creators of the Golden Goose Money Machine, the Shapeshifters.
The Big Shapeshifters Panicked Narrative is a foot as I will show in the following post.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 30 2024 11:44 utc | 80

Philly 80…Putin sent a letter end of 2021 to all western and EU etc.with details of what he thought was necessary eg European security architecture. They ignored it…no one replied.Up to each of them to find the shredder waste and try to reassemble it ?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 30 2024 12:08 utc | 82

Irony . why were the electric cables from Finland layed down where ships like to anchor,?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 30 2024 12:15 utc | 84

Posted by: laguerre | Dec 30 2024 9:55 utc | 83
Nothing good has come out of the EU takeover for the people of Europe.

you are just giving us the usual ignorant American view of Europe. “Ursula” doesn’t have much impact on EU life – I hardly notice her.

Who’s ignorant here?
EU rules have massive impact on EU people.
They count on uninformed simpletons like yourself to not know if some horrible new rule/law was decided on regional, national level or “in Brussels”.
The last one usually being the case and for most just a far away intangible entity where they have no control over.
It was immediately clear when we got our glorious EU that everything everywhere was suddenly more expensive when converted to the accompanying new Euro curency.
Everything standardised and leveled to fit the multinationals and VDLeyen oligarch class.
Prices to the highest level of the west, wages to the low eastern level.
Farmers losing their jobs because they can’t compete against low cost countries.
Cheap for the supermarkets and more profits for them, while the prices for consumers only went up.
How great that western truck drivers got replaced by Bulgarian, Romanians,etc.. who would do slave labor for a fraction of the cost.
That western factories could open there and pay those same low wages.
Making the whole of Europe compete in a race to the bottom. Is that what you call “International cooperation”?
Amazing that you apparently notice we are “subservient to US policy” but “that does offend you”.
Wow, you must also not have noticed the impact on gas and other prices, the massive relocating of factories out of the EU because of it making us bankrupt at a rapid pace.
Somehow you have your head in the sand and don’t see the impact of us paying for their imperialist wars and soon even being destroyed in it while they make money.
Nobody can be such a simp, this must be trolling.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Dec 30 2024 12:25 utc | 86

Posted by: Philly | Dec 30 2024 9:34 utc | 80
US character: destroy what you do not understand.

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 30 2024 12:45 utc | 88

Chang the ningcompoop

If China is behind the drone sighting
It means war !
Our CIC job is to protect us from foreign attack

Abraham Lincoln

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves , from within–

911 inside job people !

Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2024 13:52 utc | 90

Posted by: just in | Dec 29 2024 23:49 utc | 44
Yeah, Rudolf got drunk and went off course. 🙂

Posted by: Linda | Dec 30 2024 14:18 utc | 92

karlof1@66…..Karl, you are confused, Putin and Lavrov also, no offence, but it’s not that the ‘west’ is not understanding what Russia wants, misunderstanding what Putin and Lavrov say, Words Words Words…….the ‘west’ doesn’t give a rats ass what Russia wants….plain and simple and it will get even simpler once Trump takes power……nothing will change for Russia other than they will embolden the ‘west’, more assets in Russia will go poof, more sea assets will go plop, more shadow fleet fuel will be confiscated……can Russia supply effective military escorts for all its shadow fleet ships? There is always the chance the west will have a change of heart with Trump in office……
Cheers M
To date, Russia has done nothing to scare FUKUS…..magic rockets cloaked in secrecy are not scaring anyone….especially when the perpetrators have nothing to fear.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 30 2024 15:18 utc | 94

Old timers can skip !

gringo

“The United States does not want to send the Uyghurs, a Muslim Chinese ethnic group, back to China where Washington fears they would likely be persecuted for their opposition to the Beijing government

What a crock !
Only those who committed genocide on the Han were apprehended , charged in court and dealt with accordingly
https://tinyurl.com/4p73smah
gringo fretted over their beloved Uighurs freedom fighters not getting a fair trial in China !
LOL !
IN anglo/euro land, perps , together with a shitload of innocent bystanders. , would be gunned DOWN on the spot in a hail of undiscriminating fire
fAIR trial my ass !

Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2024 15:32 utc | 96

With as much respect as I can muster: yours is the worst solution, ever. Boss wants nothing more than he wants a Plantation where he can be absolutely and unequivocally Lord and Master! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< "... I concluded amerika couldn't be saved it must be balkanised. Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 30 2024 5:10 utc | 64" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Dec 30 2024 15:55 utc | 98

War is bad for one’s mental health for the ones who have to think about it and aren’t even doing much of it themselves. Being a world hegemon with long duty tours is a drag.
Stripes, Dec 30
Anxiety and PTSD among mental health diagnoses on the rise, military researchers say

Diagnoses for mental disorders among U.S. service members increased nearly 40% in a five-year period that partly overlapped with the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new report that military researchers say demonstrates a growing need for health services. From the beginning of 2019 through the end of 2023, more than 541,000 active service members were diagnosed with at least one mental health disorder and about half that number were diagnosed with at least two, the report said. More than half of the diagnoses, nearly 283,000 cases, were for adjustment disorder, according to the latest edition of Medical Surveillance Monthly Report, a peer-reviewed journal of the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Division. The disorder is time-limited and characterized by impaired function due to stress. It can be serious and is a risk for suicide, according to the Mayo Clinic website, but can also be mild, and in most cases, is manageable within a few months. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 30 2024 16:19 utc | 100