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December 9, 2024
Syria – Winners And Losers Or Both

Syria has fallen.

It is now highly likely that the country will fall apart. Outside and inside actors will try to capture and/or control as many parts of the cadaver as each of them can.

Years of chaos and strife will follow from that.

Israel is grabbing another large amount of Syrian land. It has taken control of the Syrian city of Quneitra, along with the towns of Al-Qahtaniyah and Al-Hamidiyah in the Quneitra region. It has also advanced into the Syrian Mount Hermon and is now positioned just 30 kilometers from (and above) the Syrian capital.

It is also further demilitarizing Syria by bombing every Syria military storage site in its reach. Air defense positions and heave equipment are its primary targets. For years to come Syria, or whatever may evolve from it, will be completely defenseless against outside attacks.

Israel is for now the big winner in Syria. But with restless Jihadists now right on its border it remains to be seen for how long that will hold.

The U.S. is bombing the central desert of Syria. It claims to strike ISIS but the real target is any local (Arab) resistance which could prevent a connection between the U.S. controlled east of Syria with the Israel controlled south-west. There may well be plans to further build this connection into an Eretz Israel, a Zionist controlled state  "from the river to the sea".

Turkey has had and has a big role in the attack on Syria. It is financing and controlling the 'Syrian National Army' (previously the Free Syrian Army), which it is mainly using to fight Kurdish separatists in Syria.

There are some 3 to 5 million Syrian refugees in Turkey which the wannabe-Sultan Erdogan wants, for domestic political reasons, to return to Syria. The evolving chaos will not permit that.

Turkey had nurtured and pushed the al-Qaeda derived Hayat Tahrir al-Sham to take Aleppo. It did not expect it to go any further. The fall of Syria is now becoming a problem for Turkey as the U.S. is taking control of it. Washington will try to use HTS for its own interests which are, said mildly, not necessary compatible with whatever Turkey may want to do.

A primary target for Turkey are the Kurdish insurgents within Turkey and their support from the Kurds in Syria. Organized as the Syrian Democratic Forces the Kurds are sponsored and controlled by the United States. The SDF are already fighting Erdogan's SNA and any further Turkish intrusion into Syria will be confronted by them.

The SDF, supported by the U.S. occupation of east-Syria, is in control of the major oil, gas and wheat fields in the east of the country. Anyone who wants to rule in Damascus will need access to those resources to be able to finance the state.

Despite having a $10 million award on its head HTS leader Abu Mohammad al-Golani is currently played up by western media  as the unifying and tolerant new leader of Syria. But his HTS is itself a coalition of hardline Jihadists from various countries. There is little left to loot in Syria and as soon as those resources run out the fighting within HTS will begin. Will al-Golani be able to control the sectarian urges of the comrades when these start to plunder the Shia and Christian shrines of Damascus?

During the last years Russia was less invested in the Assad government than it seemed. It knew that Assad had become a mostly useless partner. The Russia Mediterranean base in Khmeimim in Latakia province is its springboard into Africa. There will be U.S. pressure on any new leadership in Syria to kick the Russians out. However any new leadership in Syria, if it is smart, will want to keep the Russians in. It is never bad to have an alternative choice should one eventually need one. Russia may well stay in Latakia for years to come.

With the fall of Syria Iran has lost the major link in its axis of resistance against Israel. Its forward defenses, provided by Hizbullah in Lebanon, are now in ruins.

As the former General Wesley Clark reported about a talk he once had in the Pentagon:

"This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”

Six of the seven countries mentioned in that famous memo have by now been thrown into chaos. Iran is -so far- the sole survivor of those plans. It will urgently have to further raise its local defenses. It is high time now for it to finally acquire real nuclear weapons.

The incoming Trump administration sees China as its major enemy. By throwing Syria (and Ukraine) into chaos the outgoing Biden administration has guaranteed that Trump will have to stay involved in the Middle East (and eastern Europe).

The massive U.S. 'Pivot to Asia' will again have to wait. This gives China more time to build its sphere of influence. It may well be the only power that has been a winner in this.

Comments

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After difficulty comes ease, not after sorrow.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2024 4:10 utc | 601

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This customer came from a Kashmiri family that belonged to the higher social class of administrators created by the British Raj to run India for them. This also happened in Stoke-on-Trent, one of the few places in Britain that has had Muslim riots, home to many a patsy of Prevent, and to a Peer who was locked up for promising to have magical.powers and conning people.
This city has a reputation for Takfiri political activism. Lol.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2024 4:42 utc | 602

Thread of Public Executions Today in Syria
https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1866518195516940447
(Warning: Graphic content throughout)
‘Free’ Syria:’Free’ Market:
https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1866614431452631111
“Syria’s new government announces it will move away from state-controlled economy to a free market model to attract investment.”
(PBUH) ‘Profits Be Upon HTS’

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2024 6:54 utc | 603

George Galloway: ‘Head-Choppers and Heart-Eaters’
https://x.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1864304356289294498
“You don’t need to be Einstein to understand why the Anglo-American [-Zionist] empire is invading Syria through its takfiri terror army.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2024 7:29 utc | 604

Profits be upon BlackRock

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2024 7:30 utc | 605

“…Aljazeera (and the Qatari government behind it) played a big role in supporting the rebels and spreading propaganda on their behalf.
It is too early to predict the specific outcome of governance in Syria, but it is unlikely that the Syrian people will enjoy a stable and democratic government.
Just like Syria, Sudan, Lebanon, Yemen, Libya and Iraq, the US-Israeli alliance is engaged in a vicious campaign to destroy states and societies in many Arab countries, all to make the Israeli fascist state feel secure.
The suffering of the Syrian people is unlikely to end soon, and the infighting between the various armed militias may produce a situation not unlike Afghanistan after the fall of the communists in 1992.”
As’ad Abu Khalil: Syria Now
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/09/asad-abukhalil-syria-now/
Your tax dollars at work?

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2024 7:45 utc | 606

G’day S.
Good to see you posting here again.
[…]
a 500+ post thread is 3/4 defecation from trolls, Ed, and similar retards.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 9 2024 23:44 utc | 321

That’s why I stopped posting and reading the comments. I temporarily returned because of the ongoing events in Syria. Is there a way to contact you?

Posted by: S | Dec 11 2024 9:05 utc | 607

G’day S. Good to see you posting here again.- Melaleuca | Dec 9 2024 23:44 utc | 321
Posted by: S | Dec 11 2024 9:05 utc | 616
I’m with Melaleuca, always appreciate(d) your posts S.
Be here when you can, thanks.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 11 2024 9:26 utc | 608

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 11 2024 9:26 utc | 617

Thank you for your kind words, waynorinorway. I’ll ask the same question: is there a way to contact you? The reason I’m asking is that I’m thinking of creating a new forum which will have strong moderation so that an efficient exchange of ideas can happen.

Posted by: S | Dec 11 2024 9:50 utc | 609

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 10 2024 15:28 utc | 534
I don’t accept your small correction. NATO did not start the biggest war in Europe after WWII. NATO just fed a shithole proxy state with weapons and currency, encouraging the shithole proxy state to attack Russian interests, but cowardly staying out of harm’s way itself.
It was Russia and her very strong leader who started the largest war in Europe since WWII.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 11 2024 9:56 utc | 610

Posted by: Gatobart | Dec 10 2024 22:06 utc | 602

I myself have no doubt that the Israelis had it all planned and knew exactly where all this would lead to because they are far more advanced and sophisticated than their enemies and that has been the case ever since the birth of their state.

A cryptojew aggrandizing Israel, so what’s new?

Concerning Putin, I have never said he is weak, quite the opposite, […] he is a wuss, he is a weak leader.

Lol! Read that again, you’re contradicting yourself.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 11 2024 10:02 utc | 611

Just wanted to follow-up to my two posts (in the 500’s) re:Trudeau’s call with Saudi Arabia’s MbS, plus the earlier posts in the thread that referenced celebrating Syrians in Montreal, where I also happen to reside. Here’s how I see it: 9/11 reference? Yes there is a strong Jewish community here (not the one Leonard Cohen grew up in, mind, it’s gone all official Jewish (registered trademark) community now) And yes, Trudeau was elected from a riding with a strong Jewish population.
The ties to the French-speaking Arab world are taken very seriously in these parts. Like very seriously, like a brother/sister hood (a Francophone one). It’s not like what I’ve seen through media in major European cities, where there are Muslim neighbourhoods that are ghettos, no-go zones. Not here — gangsters come in many, many flavours in Montreal!
Anyway. I find it impossible to believe that the Francophone world, starting with France, will not defend the Francophone Arab areas, no matter what. Didn’t investigate much, but I will post two X posts from Trudeau’s account, just for the flavour:
Trudeau sits down with a man from Syria who became a Canadian citizen while visiting Halifax yesterday:
https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1866629988902121843
And his post on the re-opening of Notre-Dame cathedral:
https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1865886323443200403
In short, MbS may (or may not) be concerned about French-Canadian military involvement. And since this is one single country, it would be Canadian military involvement.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 11 2024 10:39 utc | 612

This delusional fantasy that pale skin makes people more violent etc. etc. is racist in the extreme.
Posted by: rosross | Dec 10 2024 21:55 utc | 601
Care to quote what michaelj72 said there?
Other than that, I do agree in principle that “reverse racism” is still racism. It pains me to see the likes of Indrajit Samarajiva, some of whose articles are being republished on the Greanville Post like this one, resort to race-baiting and ruin otherwise cogent analyses to the point that I can’t read them without losing a few brain cells. Or help but wonder what Patrice Greanville was thinking.
Sorry if OT or irrelevant.

Posted by: joey_n | Dec 11 2024 10:49 utc | 613

John Gilberts 613
The clever part of USUKIS using HTS , headchopping Syriwood. , Libywood, and Iraqiwood movies , funded by Qatar’s Muslim Brotherhood is that they can tar all the honest,, decent, hard-working , God-worshipping Muslims who wear Muslim beards, Hijabs and beautiful Muslim robes as psychopaths.
Whereas we , honest,, decent, hard-working , God-worshipping Muslims who wear Muslim beards, Hijabs and beautiful Muslim robes know that it was the CIA Arab dictators like Saddam, Gaddafi, Mubarak and Assad who oppressed Muslims.
Put in your tiny minds please that USUKIS now uses Mobiles, pagers, Facebook, satellites and facial recognition technology to oppress the Muslims. The Torture Dictators are no longer required to control Muslim countries, but that doesn’t mean that either the old dictators or the new headchoppers are not oppressors.
It’s just a change of style.
I don’t mean to be patronising, but to try to remove the sentimental airbrushing of the old guard. The Middle East was terrified of the old guard, just as much as we should now be terrified for our own lives in a Zionist West that hunts and kills by mobiles.
We need to mobilise against mobiles.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2024 10:54 utc | 614

New-Age Cosmopolite: Former Al-Qaeda Commander Granted With Turkish Citizenship After Ukrainian One | Southfront – June 2021
Oui | Dec 10 2024 14:25 utc | 521
Like Saakashvili got instant Ukranian citizenship and became governor of Odessa after he fled Georgia
like your site, btw, @Oui

Posted by: hh | Dec 11 2024 12:01 utc | 615

hh 624
I think one has to admit, not for the first time I’m afraid, that one’s ability to understand the corruption of USUKIS is impenetrable to most of us and even by our clearest minds.
We shouldn’t beat ourselves up about this fact. It means we are sane.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2024 12:52 utc | 616

I believe Cincinnatus is the exception to the rule.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 10 2024 17:31 utc | 564
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Who?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2024 17:38 utc | 565

A guy who had ringing sounds in his ears
.. or was it his nose?

Posted by: hh | Dec 11 2024 13:32 utc | 617

It is now highly likely that the country will fall apart

Wait, was it not disintegrated and ruined already? With a token government, a skeleton military sponsored by Russia and some other lowly functioning bare bones government keeping together a small fraction of the original country? Minus the oil? Minus border control?
What we’re seeing now looks like a clearing away of old garbage including layers of corruption and sadism that was probably not better than any possible harsh Islamic rule, besides it being perhaps easier to control for Russia. But one can debate that. The only thing Russia was waiting for was some kind of credible replacement government which would not destroy remaining infrastructure and government services further.
Hence the “invasion” that didn’t touch cities or factories. The only one not on board was Israel and they demolished military infrastructure and plants. But from a tactical point of view their actions can be understood. Not sure where they’d stop, as they seem addicted now.
What surprises me is that people think Russia or Iran would have preferred the old situation, without any legacy, energy or international relations, Syria was dead in the water. The only challenge was to change it without total chaos and with some potential influence intact. With the retreat of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran probably is building on other forms of deterrence. And wait for international reviews and investigations to slowly reveal the historical dimensions of the abuse and murder of Gaza. Which are more strategic and permanent directions than any rebel army.

Posted by: John Dowser | Dec 11 2024 13:33 utc | 618

Posting here is like talking to myself
Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 10 2024 4:13 utc | 388
less noisy, surely.

Posted by: hh | Dec 11 2024 13:34 utc | 619

@Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 10 2024 13:32 utc | 503
May be misspelling on my part, sorry, I wanted to mean “in face of” or something like that…
That is kinda spanishation on my part ( which I sometimes do due lack of time…) like as ” Hezbollah llama a una alianza sunita/chiita frente a la destrucción de Siria por parte de la entidad israelí”….

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Dec 11 2024 15:26 utc | 620

The Syrian Army Did Not Run
https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1866590650701058134
“Syrian soldier says they were ordered to surrender after some type of ‘agreement’.
They say they have gathered in the coastal mountains, and will continue to fight.
‘With our souls, with our blood, we give to Syria.’
The question is who ordered the surrender?
What back door deals were made with who.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2024 16:56 utc | 621

Statement By Antony [‘I come as a Jew’] Blinken
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1866650391716217127
‘For the first time Sec Blinken says explicitly the US will recognize a Syrian government if it adheres to four principles. The right of minorities, facilitate the flow of humanitarian assistance, prevent Syria from being used as a base for terrorism [except US supported] or posing a threat to its neighbors…’
“Posing a threat to its neighbors’ means the only Syrian government the US will recognize is one that is subservient to ‘Israel’.”
Natch.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2024 17:06 utc | 622

You seem to overlook the realities:
a. nuking Tehran would not take out Iran and the Iranians would immediately eradicate Israel.
Posted by: rosross | Dec 10 2024 22:07 utc | 603
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That’s not a reality. Not any more. Iran has not retaliated against the last conventional attack against it by Israel although Iran vowed it would retaliate.
I think Iran will just sit back and take a nuclear attack on Tehran by Israel. Iran is too afraid of Israel and USA to fight back. It has the ability right now to attack Israel knowing Israel cannot stop its missiles, but is afraid to use that advantage.

Posted by: Chas | Dec 11 2024 17:31 utc | 623

The fact that the Dollar General Corporation is the general store of choice for communities all around the country serves as a source of national pride for the company.

Posted by: baknerstive44 | Dec 14 2024 12:37 utc | 624

The corporate headquarters of Dollar General may be found in the city of Goodlettsville, which is located in the state of Tennessee. The business was first established in 1939 by a family, but it did not formally open its doors to the general public until 1968.

Posted by: nerstive44 | Dec 14 2024 12:37 utc | 625