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December 17, 2024
Russia – Agree To Be Provoked Or Fall For Lucy’s Football?

Early this morning assassins from the Ukrainian Military Intelligence Service killed Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, the commander of the Russian Radiological, Chemical, and Biological Defense Forces, in Moscow:

Lieutenant-General Igor Kirillov, commander of the nuclear, biological and chemical forces of the Russian army, died in a blast as he was heading out of a residential block in Moscow, the Russian Investigative Committee said in a statement.

An explosive device was hidden in an electric scooter parked nearby. Kirillov’s aide also died in the attack, the investigative committee said, announcing a criminal investigation. Video footage obtained by POLITICO corroborates that version of events.

Kirillov lived in a normal apartment block. His aide was picking him up for work. They were observed and someone who was watching (and filming) them pulled the trigger.

Kirillov was well known. He gave several public presentations about secret U.S. bio-warfare experiments in Ukraine:

Writing on Kirillov’s passing, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zakharova said that throughout his career he had repeatedly exposed the crimes of the “Anglo-Americans” such as “NATO provocations with chemical weapons in Syria, Britain’s manipulations with prohibited chemical substances and provocations in Salisbury and Amesbury, the deadly activities of American biolabs in Ukraine, and much more.”

“He worked fearlessly. He did not hide behind people’s backs,” Zakharova wrote.

This is of course a provocation designed by Ukraine to make peace talks with Russia, as president-elect Donald Trump presumably favors, less possible.

The question for Russia is now how to react to it.

Should it hit back with its whole might and destroy the 'decision making centers' in Kiev who are responsible for this incident? (Note: An accurate definition of 'decision centers' would include the embassies of the U.S. and Great Britain in Kiev.)

Or should it hold back and hope that negotiations about Ukraine with Donald Trump will actually achieve some positive, if temporary, results?

It is a difficult question.

The general configuration of the incoming Trump administration is hawkish.

It is thus highly unlikely, James George Jatras writes, that any agreement which could be seen as positive for Russia will be worth the paper it is written on:

[T]he Russians have made it clear that they will accept no temporary truces, no ceasefires, no more promises made to be broken like piecrusts, no pauses as cynical tricks to get the Russians to forgo their current and growing military advantage. (…) No, they insist, there must be either a genuine, definitive, binding settlement that ensures a lasting peace based on mutual security, or Russian forces will press on until their objectives – notably “demilitarization and denazification” of Ukraine – are achieved militarily. Such an outcome would mean at least replacement of the current regime in Kiev and, more likely, the end of Ukraine’s statehood.

For the West, this would constitute a total debacle of Afghanistan-like proportions effectively signaling the end of US hegemony in Europe, the [Great American Empire’s] crown jewel. What can Trump offer the Russians to avoid that?

[T]he real question for the Trump Administration becomes a political one of how much wiggle room there is in the Russians’ stated determination not to rely on more promises of the sort that have been repeatedly broken in the past. Put another way: if Trump-Lucy wants to avoid utter defeat in the European theater of the worldwide confrontation between the GAE and BRICS-Eurasia, so he can get on to mixing it up with Iran and China, can he dupe Putin-Charlie Brown into taking another run at the football?

I think he at least has a good shot at it.

Jatras lists several points that the U.S. could temporarily concede to Russia only to later pull the proverbial football on each of those items.

Russia would of course expect this. But the opening question – to fall for the provocation or to find an alternative way – can also be asked within a larger context.

In 2019 RAND, the Defense Department's think-tank, published the main policy paper that led to the war in Ukraine.

Extending Russia – Competing from Advantageous Ground

Its summary says:

This report examines a range of possible means to extend Russia. As the 2018 National Defense Strategy recognized, the United States is currently locked in a great-power competition with Russia. This report seeks to define areas where the United States can compete to its own advantage. Drawing on quantitative and qualitative data from Western and Russian sources, this report examines Russia's economic, political, and military vulnerabilities and anxieties. It then analyzes potential policy options to exploit them — ideologically, economically, geopolitically, and militarily (including air and space, maritime, land, and multidomain options). After describing each measure, this report assesses the associated benefits, costs, and risks, as well as the likelihood that measure could be successfully implemented and actually extend Russia. Most of the steps covered in this report are in some sense escalatory, and most would likely prompt some Russian counter-escalation.

Arming Ukraine, and pushing it into provoking a Russian intervention, was seen as the most 'profitable' way to weaken the Russian Federation.

By starting the Special Military Operation in Ukraine Russia had actually fallen for the provocation RAND had planned for it. For Russia there was, at that moment, no alternative.

U.S. anti-Russia hawks will try their best to keep Russia bogged down in Ukraine.

But others see the growing danger that a prolonged conflict creates for the West. The economic damage it has caused is already substantial. It is also diverting U.S. capacities from countering China.

Trump's peace allures may thereby become a real alternative for Russia to climb out of the RAND trap.

It is either all in, take Kiev and defeat Ukraine as a state, or take the negotiation route, concede on some issues and agree to an imperfect solution which may (or more likely not) turn out to be permanent.

Russia's president Vladimir Putin, and the circles around him, will have the ponder these difficult questions.

Comments

The whole affair is becoming more and more of a disaster for Mother Russia…Now the oil spill near Krasnodar in the already badly affected Black Sea…What else is supposed to happen until the Jewish-neoliberal traitor is removed?
Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 18 2024 17:26 utc | 405
Two comparatively tiny river tankers built in the 1970s, ventured beyond the Kerch Strait because open sea tankers cannot pass farther inland than the bridge. The river tankers quite foreseeably broke up and sank. No real surprise. Now there is some grease in the Black Sea, which will go to the same place as the grease from Deep Water Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico (Digested by microbes).
Hardly a disaster.

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 18 2024 18:41 utc | 401

Hardly a disaster.
Posted by: frithguild | Dec 18 2024 18:41 utc | 414
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And even if it is a disaster, what does it have to do with Putin, his leadership, or his supposed identity as Jewish-neoliberal traitor”?

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 19:04 utc | 402

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 19:04 utc | 415
It’s not just an environmental disaster…Since sabotage was obviously involved, it’s another attack on the Russian Federation without even considering a response. And so it will go on forever until Mother Russia succumbs to the plans of the Jewish-Neoliberal Trojan Horse…

Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 18 2024 19:26 utc | 403

Now Rostov…

Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 18 2024 19:28 utc | 404

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 18 2024 16:33 utc | 397
What the hell are you even talking about? This is complete pseudoscience, even worse than the bullshit Orlov is peddling (“electron inertia”, “Coulomb explosions”, yeah and magic sparkles too).
To begin with, a Coulomb explosion means that the electrons in a material are excited from the addition of energy from for example a laser to the point that they are expelled from the targeted material, resulting in the rapid disintegration (“explosion”) of the remaining material as only the positively charged nuclei are left.
It does not involve a reaction where net energy is released the way a chemical explosion or a nuclear explosion does. It is only an explosion in the sense of “things flying apart”. But people are willing to buy any snake oil when it comes to Russian “clean” Wunderwaffen (which is actually quite ironic when Russia is the country with the largest known stockpile of nuclear weapons, the most powerful that exists in actual reality, meaning there is no need to engage in ridiculous fantasies like these).
To take the most extreme counter-example: Even if 1/2 gram of tungsten were to be combined with 1/2 gram of anti-tungsten, so that 1 gram of mass (it doesn’t even matter which substance here, it could be tungsten or gold or oxygen or whatever) would be completely annihilated and in other words the entire rest mass is converted to energy, you would still only end up with an explosion about 40% larger than the Little Boy bomb. Here is the important part: There is no possible way, even in theory, of releasing more energy from a material than converting the entire rest mass into energy.
The equation used is the famous (unreasonably so, because it’s not even a very central formula in physics) E=mc^2 and 1 gram we get an explosive yield of 1 gram * speed of light squared = 21.5 kilotons TNT. Much smaller than even the moderately sized nuclear warheads (around 500 kilotons) commonly deployed today. And the creation, storage, and then annihilation of even half a gram of antimatter is science fiction centuries into the future, and has nothing to do with Coulomb explosions or whatever.
But somehow you end up with 1.4 billion kilotons from Coulomb something something, an amount of energy that is the equivalent of the rest mass of 65 metric tons of matter, using only 1 gram of tungsten! How exactly does that happen except with complete pseudoscience? You are simply combining a complete lack of understanding of physics with numbers that are made up and where no relation is shown between them.

Posted by: Yasna39 | Dec 18 2024 19:32 utc | 405

I must have missed something. What has happened to PeterAU1?

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 18 2024 19:52 utc | 406

So NATO in Ukraine was so cowed by Russia’s massive mssile response to the firing of more “long-range” missiles at Russia, that they decided to do it again today?
LOL
What now, can Russia afford to deplete its own missile stocks in response to each of these “ATACMS” attacks?
(lol at those who said Oreshnik would mean an end to “long-range” missiles fired at Russia)
Oh look, another assassination – will Russia now fire missiles at Ukraine’s power grid in response?
Russis is expending resources on Ukraine, NATO has barely flexed its muscles. Where will Russia be if there is ten more years of this? And what will need to happen to prevent ten more years of this boiling of the frog, death by a thousand cuts? Surely NATO and the West do not care if Ukraine ends up as an uninhabitable wastelend if Russia is crippled along the way?

Posted by: Keith | Dec 18 2024 19:57 utc | 407

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 18 2024 19:52 utc | 419
I’m not entirely sure either but from what I understand he has mostly stopped posting (for some reason) but was recently by imitated a sock puppet, giving a lot of people the impression that he was back.

Posted by: Yasna39 | Dec 18 2024 20:05 utc | 408

NATO has barely flexed its muscles.

Posted by: Keith | Dec 18 2024 19:57 utc | 420
ROFL, NATO is a bloated and adipose couch potato, flabby from gorging on the popcorn of MIC corruption and grift. All it can do is belch and occasionally fart, stinking the place up for a while, then everyone else just opens the window.
It lives on its memory of once being a true heavyweight fighter, in its heyday of the 1970s and 80s, but the muscle mass has long since atrophied. It has recently been diagnosed with a potentially terminal case of effthirtyfiveitis…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 20:20 utc | 409

Since sabotage was obviously involved
Posted by: Larsbo | Dec 18 2024 19:26 utc | 416
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Evidence?
…didn’t think so.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 20:32 utc | 410

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 17:22 utc | 404
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It’s not that the UN won’t do anything about it.
The UN exists as a complaint/recommendation box that is never emptied.
One has to be able to recognize the true purpose of these “institutions”. Many of them provide another level of bureaucratic employment, sinecures with pensions.
Ask yourself, in your lifetime, what the UN has accomplished. What war has it stopped? What human trafficking has it ended? What diplomacy between states has it created?
The UN, like elections, is a pressure valve for society. To keep us from getting mad enough to take action, say like shooting a healthcare CEO in broad daylight. TPB is terrified that people will revolt.
The Russians and Chinese are very smart but it irks me to no end that they keep engaging in this pantomime of “international law”. There is no international law, in that there is no one to enforce it, and so it is regularly broken or disregarded.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 20:43 utc | 411

Have you seen Military Summary’s latest video report (not that everything they say shoudl be believed)?
In it Dima reports on the Russian General Staff briefing earlier today, where he reads out what Gerasimov said about NATO using Ukraine to fire “long-range” missiles at Russia, and what Russia’s firm response will be.
It went something like this:
Blah blah blah blah, blah, blah bla blah blah
Blah blah, blah bla blah blah, blah
More blahs
Even more blah blahs
Blah blah blah blah blah

Blah.
Then, apparently, a few hours after reports of this briefing hit the media, NATO fired “long-range” missiles at the General Staff HQ in Rostov.
If this was not just a coincidence you gotta give props to NATO.
***I can not vouch for any of the claims posted above, or accuracy of the briefing mentioned.***

Posted by: Keith | Dec 18 2024 21:06 utc | 412

I have been wondering about the reliability and commitment of comrad Putin as a leader of the “resistance”. He and others certainly have given away a lot of strategic advantage with what seems to be their entirely reactive policies. Iran probably could have destroyed some of Isreal’s f-35’s with their measured response to Isreal’s attacks on their forces, but they didn’t. Putin continues with measured reactive responses to USWorld Econic /NATO provocation. All this with Russia’s demonstrated weapons advantages, military production advantage, and battlefield superiority. I can’t forget that back in the Yeltsin days, Putin was the Russian golden boy for the World Economic Forum. Also the 1 or 1.5 million russian dual passport Isreali citezens. Talk about a human shield.

Posted by: a machinist | Dec 18 2024 22:23 utc | 413

I am so tired of the 5th column that it stopped reading MOA daily. So good job on that front!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 18 2024 20:43 utc | 424
The Russians and Chinese are very smart but it irks me to no end that they keep engaging in this pantomime of “international law”. There is no international law, in that there is no one to enforce it, and so it is regularly broken or disregarded.

It’s true that the UN is dysfunctional. Perhaps like the League of Nations in its last days.
But even so: do you believe that Russia and China have reasons to do what they do? We should assume so, and try to understand better why they put effort into this seemingly political dead end.
Here’s my take: international law broken but it’s also clear that there is worldwide demand for such a thing. I believe that Russia and China are investing energy in order to convince by-standing countries that be imperial replacements when/if US power wanes. (Whereas just happened when the UK passed the baton to the USA.)
You could argue that such a belief is rosy-tinted and not adequate to the current situation. I don’t know. I think that Russia is winning the Ukraine war fair and square (so much so that killing a Russian general is annoying but certainly not worth any missiles) and that China is economically unstoppable. That looks like a position where you could invest into goodwill.

Posted by: Konami | Dec 18 2024 22:36 utc | 414

First of all to B, a wish for your continued good health as I find Moon of Alabama generally to have a high signal to noise ratio for people interested in a non-western centric information.
I find it interesting, however, to see so many people advocating a radically violent reaction by Russia to western provocations. I suspect that V. Putin has sources of information a bit better than we at the bar possess. The actions specifically of the blob or deep state neoconservatives are coming to light and I think possibly their schemes are losing support. It seems to me that there is a shrill sense of desperation as the neocons realize their window is rapidly closing. I don’t put any faith in Trump, but his mandate specifically was to put an end to this terrorism. If he fails to deliver, which is likely, he will go down in history as even worse than Biden.
But one observation I can make, I think somewhat authoritatively, is that the economic underpinnings of western hegemony are coming unglued and this type of pattern has existed throughout history. Perhaps Russia is optimizing its position for when the fall happens to not be crushed in the collapse.
Thanks to all of the commenters here for providing lots of different PoVs. May our next years bring a respite from constant war and tyranny.

Posted by: Giuseppe | Dec 19 2024 0:21 utc | 415

Do some of the commenters not realize that a nation’s foreign embassies are considered that nation’s sovereign territory. Hence, attacks upon the U.S. and U.K. embassies in Kiev would represent direct attacks on those nations. Are we ready for World War-III?

Posted by: Rob | Dec 19 2024 0:25 utc | 416

too much patience is not a virtue, it is cowardice.

Posted by: cafe_con_leche10 | Dec 19 2024 1:20 utc | 417

“I find it interesting, however, to see so many people advocating a radically violent reaction by Russia to western provocations. …”
Posted by: Giuseppe | Dec 19 2024 0:21 utc | 428
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But it is Putin himself that said “long-range” missile attacks changes everything and that it would mean NATO is at war with Russia. NATO has provided tanks, jets, artillery, missiles and soldiers and intel to go with the assassinations, terrorist attacks and an invasion (stuff that was unthinkable not too long ago and everything Russia warned NATO to not do). It is Russia, Russian officials, that point to more and more violence as a consequence, over and over again, suggesting striking NATO is next up, nuking Britain, killing Times journalists in London.
Then we see Russia is carrying on with the SMO as if nothing has changed, as if nothing new has developed, as they never said any of those things they still keep saying.
I think poeple want Russia to put up or shut up, stop being fake-ass bullshitters, stop getting our hopes up, just concede already and save lives.
We have watched country after country go the same way, all full of the rhetoric and yet deliver next to nothing – people want, felt, hoped, expected, Russia to be different.
If not Russia, who; if not here, where; if not now, when?

Posted by: Keith | Dec 19 2024 2:26 utc | 418

It’s now obvious that “Israel” is a violent racist supremacist fake country. As if that weren’t bad enough it has also bought/blackmailed the West’s jewed-up politicians into shameless obedience.
It’s worth remembering that Merry England was the first Christian country to fall under the Zionist spell. England rewarded its New Masters by “giving” them selected chunks of Palestine – via the infamous Balfour Declaration.
So England is just as guilty as the jews themselves for facillitating the creation of the crime scene known as “Israel.”

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 19 2024 3:04 utc | 419

IMHO the smart move for the Russians is to offer Kalingrad to Poland based on a permanent no NATO in Ukraine peace deal. It could help to split NATO and it would give Trump some deal making room. For now he appears to be spouting the NATO bullshit of NATO peacekeeprs in Ukraine which is an obvious oximoron.
The Russians are smart to wait it out as they are moving where it counts. Patience is the order of the day for the new administration as Trump will talk to Putin. What comes out of that will probably be a NATO centered offer to start.
Trump, Poland,and Hungary are much closer than Trump and Western Europe. Making Poland and Kalingrad the center of the deal with a neutral zone between Donbass and Poland would work if Eastern Europe takes the lead away from Western Europe.

Posted by: circumspect | Dec 19 2024 5:36 utc | 420

yet deliver next to nothing – people want, felt, hoped
Posted by: Keith | Dec 19 2024 2:26 utc | 433
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People wanted what? To die in a nuclear fire? Putin is doing everything to prevent that, unlike the west. For that I should be eternally grateful to him. You WW3 maximalists make me sick.
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IMHO the smart move for the Russians is to offer Kalingrad to Poland based on a permanent no NATO in Ukraine peace deal.
Posted by: circumspect | Dec 19 2024 5:36 utc | 435
Completely delusional and utter nonsense. If you still haven’t gotten your head around the reasons for the SMO and its stated goals after almost three years, then you’ll probably never understand that Russia will cede no territory to the west and definitely not in another Minsk 3.0 peace deal.
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In the meantime looks to me Russia has had about as much support as the Gaza Palestinians and Assad in Syria have had. Almost none.
Posted by: Philly | Dec 19 2024 6:58 utc | 436
Russia has only two allies, the navy and the army. Friendly countries like DPRK and Iran have supported Russia with weapons and ammunition. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s too little, Russia is winning in a proxy against a country with a full backing of the collective west, USA and all their vassals like South Korea.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Dec 19 2024 7:56 utc | 421

IMHO the smart move for the Russians is to offer Kalingrad to Poland based on a permanent no NATO in Ukraine peace deal.
Posted by: circumspect | Dec 19 2024 5:36 utc | 435
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Sounds good to me!
Especially because there’s no such place as “Kalingrad”.
People who think there is such a place have no business making proposals concerning its fate.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2024 12:56 utc | 422

circumspect | Dec 19 2024 5:36 utc | 435
*** IMHO the smart move for the Russians is to offer Kalingrad to Poland based on a permanent no NATO in Ukraine peace deal.***
Deals certain to be thoroughly broken within a few months.
*** It could help to split NATO and it would give Trump some deal making room.***
Why? He’s a US-imperialist salesman sometimes trying a slightly different approach, but with the exact same end goal of absolute world control … totally under transnational corporate and (very much) financier ownership.
*** For now he [Trump] appears to be spouting the NATO bullshit of NATO peacekeeprs in Ukraine which is an obvious oximoron.***
May do the same re Middle East and Iran. Means the usual US-imperial occupation forces and auxiliaries, but with a thin cosmetic veneer made of semantics.
It could happen, given how rotten and bought so many governments (and the UN itself) are.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2024 15:24 utc | 423

lol Putin asks NATO to select next target for Oreshnik strike:
RAMZAN KADYROV:
“The President of the Russian Federation responded in a manner unique to him: he proposed conducting an experiment.
He suggested that the West select a target in Kiev and attempt to intercept a strike from the ‘Oreshnik.'”

Posted by: Keith | Dec 19 2024 16:18 utc | 424

Double lol
UK’s Financial Times reports:
“Stop pushing Zelenskyy into peace talks, warns EU’s top diplomat, Kaja Kallas”
I’m still seeing a connection with all this push from Europe as part of the plan to pressure Trump to not give up on Ukraine, and by that i mean what is going on in Syria with Europe’s backing of Turkey/HTS/alQaeda/SNA against the US-backed FSA/SDF/Kurds. They are trying to make Trump choose; either he supports Europe against Russia, or Europe supports Turkey in Syria, and beyond.

Posted by: Keith | Dec 19 2024 16:28 utc | 425

Bad Ukraine! Killing generals is a big no no during the SVO, striking targets in glorious mother Russia is with MLRS is not allowed Ukraine must fight the war only on their territory or it’s not fair to the RAF.
This blog is filled with ancient armchair generals from the west that would prefer to die by having a Russian gas pipeline stuffed down their throat rather than admit they are a bunch of hypocritical old fucks.

Posted by: JudeoSatanicUkronazi | Dec 19 2024 17:24 utc | 426

I read a piece maybe on telegram linking Kirillov’s death/murder linked with the current panic about bird flu in the US. He was reported as saying the US had gained its function, that’s bird flu, in the labs in Ukraine and it was or is now deadly to 40% of humans who are infected. Not sure how to confirm the claims.

Posted by: Inki | Dec 20 2024 7:06 utc | 427

Russian revenge just in.
Hypersonic attack on Kiev,
not clear yet what they’ve lost
and who kicked the bucket.
https://youtu.be/VMcr3Myuwfo?si=cKk8hMJ3KbeUig4e

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 20 2024 11:14 utc | 428

Hypersonic attack on Kiev,
and returned.
The ping pong rate is going up.
Does Ukraine utilize ATCMS/HIMARS missiles elsewhere along the front?

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 20 2024 16:54 utc | 429


Kirillov provided several public reports on his team’s work that I caught and reported upon. “Briefing by Chief of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Protection Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov on U.S. military-biological activity” is from 2023. I compiled several reports when I was writing for my VK site, “Text of Bioweapon Lab Report Given to OSCE May 19 by Alexander Lukashevich”, which was 2022. Older barflies will recall PeterAU1’s deep interest in bioweapons. He established a VK page to store what he discovered. Here’s his invaluable “Index-Reference Page” that links to his first reference page filled with links and merges into his report on Kirillov’s 31 January 2023 Briefing.
For those interested in the Bioweapons issue, there’s a great mass of material to explore. Peter made many excellent contributions to the bar over the many years he spent here. His VK site is the only one I know of that can be considered his legacy.
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 18 2024 16:55 utc | 401″
Thank you for these links. Theres a teeny tiny problem with condoning genocide in a world where bioweapons exist. I think Kirillov death was done to communicate that revealing the extent of bioweapon research is unacceptable if a peace in Ukraine is to be acceptable. A peace in Ukraine will largely be regarded by the world as a victory by Russia but it is dependent on boundaries being set on their behavior. Putin has largely complied with these boundaries voluntarily. Kirillov represented a comprehensive revelation of Bioweapon research from a goverment authority. The possibility that Russia has bioweapon research that they dont want attention payed to is very probable. Regardless Kirillovs death as a “outlaw” is something the Kremlin understands very well like grenades going off accidentally in planes. All of this is of course speculation on my part. I base it on the huge effect the c19 virus had on the world and the lack of even small investigation efforts by authorities. They dont want this can of worms opened and it supersedes even issues like the Ukraine conflict. The brew in which Russia is a brutal aggressor in the Ukraine conflict is about to be diluted. They cant have authority talking about bioweapons.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 20 2024 19:45 utc | 430

LoveDonbass notes a key point that almost everybody misses: “It only just occurred to me that Trump can do even less than we might think possible because he doesn’t control the government. He didn’t his last time in office and his opponents have had time to plan for him. He didn’t control the CIA. The DIA, the DoD, etc. He told them to withdraw from Syria, and they ignored his order. He changed the leadership he was still unable to accomplish the basic task of declassification with his own people leading agencies.”

Posted by: Jim Jatras | Dec 20 2024 21:08 utc | 431

Posted by: Fred | Dec 20 2024 19:45 utc | 447
Thanks for this and Karlofi and Peter. I have had a look at the bio labs index and saved it. I did see a vid about three years ago of a Russian perhaps Kirillov reading through a huge amount of documents they had discovered. Not saved unfortunately. Heard on the Highwire Thursday that Merk trialled a new Respiratory Syncytial virus vax on infants in Nicaragua using an actual placebo this time and the vaxxed infants got quite ill and the vax will not be approved! This is what happens when a true placebo is used. What also stood out was yet again a potentially dangerous new drug trialling in South America.

Posted by: Inki | Dec 20 2024 23:56 utc | 432