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December 28, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-313
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Scheer Post is currently presenting a thorough essay on the effects engineered by the BDS movement throughout most of the Middle East. It’s heartening, as major pro-genocide major corporate brands are losing traction in that region. Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 28 2024 17:01 utc | 1 A sign of the times, perhaps? Since Damascus fell, the number of posts in the Palestine/Ukraine ratio has plummeted (one to nine, at this writing). I hate to say it out loud, even though the impression lingers. People call you “defeatist” as if you savor punishment. Another signal signifying that folks have largely given up and it’s all over for the Palestinians. Their only future the Palestinian diaspora. Their only past under the rubble, vanishing from the video cloud. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 17:12 utc | 2 Another US MQ-9 downed by Yemen
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/37449 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 28 2024 17:40 utc | 4 There is a long game being played here. Israel is now fighting on seven different fronts – buoyed only by US/UK armament, and most probably additional boots on the ground. This is a country which could not manage a belligerent occupation in Gaza or the West Bank – now they are looking to manage more than belligerent occupations in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria. Gaza has stood up for more than a year to the worst the US/UK/IS has to offer. While the buildings – homes, hospitals, schools, churches are ground to dust, while the Palestinians are starving – they are still belligerent, still fighting and Hamas is experiencing no shortage of man power. Meanwhile rumor has it that 60% of the Israeli reservists are refusing to show up (or outright deserting). Hezebollah is on pause, holding the rules of the ceasefire, Hezbollah Syria is on pause but non state actors are starting to move into action. Posted by: abierno | Dec 28 2024 17:49 utc | 5 Turkey’s economy is finished. Interest rates are close to 50%, and the last 2 quarters of 2024 have seen negative GDP growth, meaning Turkey is in recession. Turkey can’t look after itself, therefore Turkey is in no condition to look after Syria. For Turkey to attempt any sort of meaningful control in Syria could result in the collapse of Turkey. So why did Russia had over Syria to the HTS Turkish fraction when they are in no condition to look after the territory? Answer: Russia did not hand over Syria to Turkey, Russia handed de facto control over Syria to Israel. Israel rules in Syria now. Posted by: gT | Dec 28 2024 18:02 utc | 6 It’s just too heartbreaking. Posted by: Jane | Dec 28 2024 18:23 utc | 7 But he didnt dare mention Israel in his tweet. COWARD! Posted by: Tom | Dec 28 2024 18:30 utc | 8 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 28 2024 17:37 utc | 4 Posted by: guessing | Dec 28 2024 18:39 utc | 9 Salaam,Aleph_Null@2-why the defeatist mind set.Again are the christian west complicit in the atrocities being carried out by the terrorist entity in occupied Palestine? If “YES” then why? They therefore have no respect for humanity and the laws of the jungle is there’s. Posted by: 4q8 | Dec 28 2024 18:47 utc | 10 F…ing cowards at the head of Western states…… Posted by: Tom | Dec 28 2024 18:49 utc | 11 Continuing discussion re: Simplicius’ Neo-Ottoman take Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 19:08 utc | 12 @ Aleph_Null | Dec 28 2024 17:12 utc | 2 Posted by: Cabe | Dec 28 2024 19:10 utc | 13 The BDS movement in EU needs to ‘target’ the cultural sphere much more – to make the artists, scientists, sports-men and -women. Shunning the European events, such as football, singing, movie competitions must be made ‘not kosher’ for any civilized person of honor. Posted by: fanto | Dec 28 2024 19:10 utc | 14 sorry – bad editing in my previous comment – it should be: Posted by: fanto | Dec 28 2024 19:25 utc | 15 Albierno@1749 Dec 28 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 28 2024 19:42 utc | 16 ❎ Report | Reports confirm that Israel conducted a test of a small tactical nuclear bomb in the Syrian city of Tartus: Posted by: Jo | Dec 28 2024 20:24 utc | 17 Previous Palestine thread: Posted by: Ornot | Dec 28 2024 20:26 utc | 18 Hans Benjamin Braun is possibly the Swiss scientist mentioned: Posted by: Ornot | Dec 28 2024 21:06 utc | 19 Israel doesn’t appreciate the massive damage its actions are doing to the good name, integration, acceptibility of World Jewry – going forward. While there are some voices ‘crying out in the wilderness’, the approval of ‘the wilderness’ for anything the IDF deems ‘necessary’ can’t help but hurt. Posted by: baldur dasche | Dec 28 2024 21:18 utc | 20 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 19:08 utc | 13 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 21:21 utc | 21 Yemen announces it shot down a MQ-9 reaper drone. The 13th so far. Costed at 32 million each. Not sure how many are produced yearly but clearly operations in Yemen aren’t sustainable at that rate Posted by: Hankster | Dec 28 2024 21:49 utc | 22 LoveDonbass 22 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 28 2024 23:26 utc | 23 I’m sure top MOA armchair general Arch Bungle has an explanation? Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 28 2024 23:51 utc | 24 Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu to undergo major surgery after infection requires treatment
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 28 2024 23:53 utc | 25 @ Bemildred | Dec 28 2024 23:53 utc | 26 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 29 2024 0:33 utc | 26 @ Cabe | Dec 28 2024 19:10 utc | 14 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 29 2024 0:35 utc | 27 @ Bemildred | Dec 28 2024 23:53 utc | 26 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 29 2024 0:39 utc | 28 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 28 2024 23:26 utc | 24 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 1:15 utc | 29 @26 Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 29 2024 1:51 utc | 30 I do not profess to be a military expert of any kind but I am curious as to why so many appear to see Israel’s invasion of Syria and the fall of Syria as a triumph. Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 2:18 utc | 31 Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 2:18 utc | 33 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 2:49 utc | 32 To #33 re: fall of Syria: All I know is that to US neocons Syria and Russia are of equal importance. And they wish Russia was smashed to bits yesterday. Billions of US tax dollars have been spent killing Syria. Beginning in 2012 and running thru 2017 in order to destroy Syria the US ran the largest illegal weapons trafficking operation in history. It was code named “Timber Sycamore.” In 2017 the operation was taken over by Kravis and Petraeus. Posted by: susan mullen | Dec 29 2024 3:10 utc | 33 LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 1:15 utc | 30 Posted by: fanto | Dec 29 2024 3:37 utc | 34 @LoveDonbass, https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/14100 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 29 2024 4:20 utc | 36 Did the THAAD successfully intercept yesterday Yemeni missile attack? Rumours are Nevatim AFB was hit again by latest strike. Posted by: Suresh | Dec 29 2024 4:22 utc | 37 https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1873067425081770288 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 29 2024 4:54 utc | 38 Good news – Netanyahu is having his prostate removed. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 29 2024 5:10 utc | 39 @Ghost of Zanon, Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 5:16 utc | 40 I don’t wish him well on any terms. I hope he does a slow, painful death from cancer and is haunted by the screams of the children he slaughtered in Gaza. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 29 2024 5:22 utc | 41 @ 39 re US troops. Posted by: golddigger | Dec 29 2024 5:59 utc | 42 michaelj72 42 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2024 5:59 utc | 43 With respect to: Posted by: ramAustralia | Dec 29 2024 6:42 utc | 44 Even John Mearsheimer is admitting what can longer be hidden: The Moral Bankruptcy of the West. Posted by: ak74 | Dec 29 2024 8:10 utc | 45 That dude possesses human organs? Posted by: Menz | Dec 29 2024 8:56 utc | 46
You can find more on this here (use machine translation): Posted by: Jergus Lapin | Dec 29 2024 9:57 utc | 47 Posted by: Chen | Dec 29 2024 3:55 utc | 39 Posted by: Uwe | Dec 29 2024 10:06 utc | 48
Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 5:16 utc | 44 Posted by: mogambo | Dec 29 2024 11:25 utc | 49 RE: “inadvertently revealed to the world the true bloodthirsty character of their vaunted values.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 29 2024 11:54 utc | 50 I’ve asked before, any IT gurus here able to hack into a pacemaker? Posted by: malenkov | Dec 29 2024 12:38 utc | 51 A fifth baby has died from hypothermia in Gaza. His twin brother is in the ICU, uncertain if he will make it. The father of the boys said they were displaced 8 months ago and they only had blankets (no tent) to protect the family from the cold. Posted by: teri | Dec 29 2024 14:28 utc | 52 Posted by: Chen | Dec 29 2024 3:55 utc | 39 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 29 2024 14:58 utc | 53 Sorry barflies. Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 29 2024 15:18 utc | 54 https://thehill.com/opinion/5058156-israel-strike-iran-trump/ Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 29 2024 15:24 utc | 55
🙂 Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 29 2024 15:25 utc | 56 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 29 2024 5:10 utc | 41 “He’ll be permanently impotent thereafter. Unable to achieve an erection; emasculated and limp.” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 29 2024 17:18 utc | 57 @57 ………..LOL Posted by: golddigger | Dec 29 2024 17:19 utc | 58 Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 2:18 utc | 32 “Israel has failed to achieve its objectives in both Occupied Palestine and Lebanon and now it has opened a third front, fourth if you count Yemen, in Syria, taking advantage of the chaos in that country. ” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 29 2024 17:22 utc | 59 A crack in the geopolitical armor?
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/508019/Israel-dwarfed-by-Ansarullah-s-affordable-abundant-arsenal
There’s a big oops, maybe. Clark forgot all about Yemen! Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 29 2024 17:24 utc | 60 Posted by: abierno | Dec 28 2024 17:49 utc | 5 ” Israel is now fighting on seven different fronts” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 29 2024 17:25 utc | 61 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 29 2024 17:24 utc | 64 Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 29 2024 17:31 utc | 62 “Shifting mission requirements” sounds very much like military-speak for: ‘getting involved in more shit’ to me. Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 29 2024 17:47 utc | 63 @ 66. Re seaports Posted by: golddigger | Dec 29 2024 18:35 utc | 64 Be careful what you wish for. If Bibi croaks, his successor will be either Smotrich or Ben Gvir. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 18:55 utc | 66 Posted by: golddigger | Dec 29 2024 18:38 utc | 70 “Eliat” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 29 2024 19:48 utc | 67 Hebrew Live (Israeli media) : Posted by: teri | Dec 29 2024 21:14 utc | 68 Christian love thine enemy wooly nonsense. Nuke the bastard, and every one of his confederates. Posted by: mogambo. Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 22:02 utc | 69 I think Israel disagrees with you on Lebanon. How many rockets have been fired into Israel since the ceasefire? I also don’t think Israel opened up a front with Yemen. Yemen opened that front. Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 22:05 utc | 70 Don’t hate Bibi. Hate Zionism. Hate America’s policies in the Middle East, which are an extension of the British policies post-Ottoman Empire. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 29 2024 22:06 utc | 71 You’ve got gangsters & terrorist “arresting” people in Syria… for breaking the law (?)… Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 29 2024 22:15 utc | 72 FFS, Russians are still in Syria. If there is radiation fallout, they will be the first to raise the alarm. Posted by: Suresh | Dec 29 2024 23:18 utc | 73 Unfortunately, Netanyahu isn’t a nobody. Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2024 23:47 utc | 74 https://open.substack.com/pub/georgehazim/p/blind-media-narratives-fail-on-hezbollah?r=ppxvi&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 23:56 utc | 75 Surest 78 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 30 2024 0:02 utc | 76 Posted by: Suresh | Dec 29 2024 23:18 utc | 78 “The Zionists entity cannot seal Yemeni ports. It can’t even launch aerial attacks. It needs US and UK planes to do that.” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 30 2024 0:48 utc | 77 Posted by: rosross | Dec 29 2024 22:05 utc | 75 “Israel wanted to take land as far as the Litani River. It failed. Israel has not been able to hold ground in Lebanon as it planned. It failed.” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 30 2024 0:57 utc | 78 Posted by: Suresh | Dec 29 2024 23:18 utc | 78 “FFS, Russians are still in Syria.” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 30 2024 1:00 utc | 79 LoveDonbass | Dec 29 2024 18:55 utc | 71 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 30 2024 1:54 utc | 80 Israel wanted Hezbollah moved north of the Litani. Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 1:56 utc | 81 Amongst much of the world’s media lies a serious ignorance surrounding Hezbollah’s strength as a resistance force and its existence following the assassination of Hassan Nasrallah, the toppling of the Assad Government, and the collapse of Syria. Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 2:02 utc | 82 “Syrian elections may not be held for at least 4 years” Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 30 2024 2:04 utc | 83 Turkey’s hand in removing Assad from power, the constant accusations of North Korean troops on the Ukrainian frontlines meant to provide casus belli to start an East Asian front in America’s global war for supremacy – all of these events remind me of the lyrics of a certain song. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 2:08 utc | 84 Nuke the bastard, and every one of his confederates. Posted by: just in | Dec 30 2024 2:11 utc | 85
Let’s assume that Israel is not covered by a nuclear umbrella and there aren’t retaliatory strikes which would rapidly instigate a chain of further retaliation which would entail nuclear holocaust for everyone on the planet. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 2:46 utc | 86 https://ejmagnier.com/2024/12/29/countdown-to-conflict-israels-withdrawal-deadline-from-lebanon-sparks-tensions/ Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 30 2024 2:48 utc | 87 All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 2:46 utc | 91 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 30 2024 2:50 utc | 88
Nope, you aren’t getting away by deflecting the blame to Zionist mind control, which doesn’t exist. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 3:18 utc | 89 “….Over the past three months, Abu Safiya, a paediatrician, has published dozens of videos and sent out pleas to the international community to act against the Israeli attacks on Kamal Adwan Hospital…..” Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 30 2024 5:54 utc | 90 Santi 67 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 30 2024 6:12 utc | 91 81 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 30 2024 6:24 utc | 92 If you have a true religion, who needs Christmas tinsel? Netanyahu spent some much time scratching his balls, making Israel powerful over its neighbours, and now God has removed his dick-wavibg capabilities with some bacteria. Posted by: Giyane | Dec 30 2024 6:33 utc | 93 Erdo has announced the renewal of the Qatar Syria Turkey pipeline project. Who will lose more? Greece and Cyprus. But who cares when Qatar has been paying millions of bribes to EU MPs for years? Posted by: Tom | Dec 30 2024 8:08 utc | 94
No direct relieve, sadly.
Posted by: MAKK | Dec 30 2024 9:10 utc | 95 101 – Fast-onset prostate cancer can kill quickly but slow-progressing is much more common and people have lived for a couple of decades after diagnosis. Sometimes when they die, it is due to another illness. Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 30 2024 10:34 utc | 96 “You’re advocating a nuclear strike on Israel because the West can no longer maintain its Empire through conventional military, and it desperately needs to use nuclear weapons to even the odds. Nuking Israel normalizes the usage of nuclear weapons. If you have a true religion, who needs Christmas tinsel? Netanyahu spent some much time scratching his balls, making Israel powerful over its neighbors, and now God has removed his dick-wavibg capabilities with some bacteria.” Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 30 2024 2:48 utc | 92 “In such a scenario, Hezbollah would claim complete legitimacy to launch attacks on Israeli positions within Lebanese territory,” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 30 2024 12:02 utc | 99
personal sacrifice is deemed a big statement. All around the world. Posted by: MAKK | Dec 30 2024 12:41 utc | 100 |
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