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December 25, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-310
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@99
I am glad I read what you wrote. A focused distance brings your points across.
And I agree with your final sentiment. The psychopathy of genocide is committed
by an insanity that’s difficult to comprehend.
Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 26 2024 21:27 utc | 101
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 26 2024 21:22 utc | 101
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How many Palestinians have died for freedom?
How many Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian, and Yemeni?
The price of freedom has always been blood.
I didn’t make that rule but I do understand it. Where there is oppression, the only way out is through. Not capitulation or surrender. Someone must pay the price for others not unlike a firefighter who goes into a burning building to rescue children. They may get the kids and they may not, regardless they will put their lives on the line to try.
Modern civilization no longer creates, cultivates, or reveres the men who play those roles. Often, they die too young to pass on their genetics, and so we’re back to the cowards and manipulators doing the bulk of the breeding.
I don’t wish ill on the Iranians, I only have love and respect for them. There are many thousands of Iranians (men and women) ready to be martyrs for a righteous cause that many in the bar sympathize with but think that their motivating beliefs are a lot of mystic nonsense.
Unsurprisingly, not too many people are willing to fight to the death for secular “values”.
That is a paradox. Everyone with a heart sympathizes with the Palestinians. Many still think they believe in total nonsense as though they are dumb or simple.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 21:40 utc | 102
Sakineh Bagoom 101
The disease of Zionism is rotting the flesh of Western society as we watch.
There is no longer an MSM that’s believed, Politician unbought, corporate leader who is Patriotic, soldier who is capable of anything but execution, or worker whose creative ideas elevate them to respect.
Nazism shrinks the balls and withers the teats of a nation . All that is required by Nazism is robotic terror. Nazism is worship of power. Worship of power unleashes into the society every Satanic impulse including civil war and civil unrest.
So it’s the collapse of USUKIS we’ll be watching, not the collapse of West Asia.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 26 2024 21:41 utc | 103
re. #59 and #101
I’m pretty sure Iran are the good guys.
They have no Rothschild bank.
Posted by: Matt | Dec 26 2024 23:36 utc | 104
Zionism is like syphilis. Highly contagious, highly addictive and extremely dangerous.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 26 2024 21:26 utc | 102
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fwiw syphilis is hardly addictive, and contagious only when skin comes into contact with a lesion—so it’s contagious only during two relatively brief periods during an infection that could last decades.
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 27 2024 0:16 utc | 105
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1871281517646778476
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️Israeli soldiers:
“I felt like, like, like a Nazi … it looked exactly like we were actually the Nazis and they were the Jews.”
“A new commander came to us. We went out with him on the first patrol at six in the morning. He stops.
There’s not a soul in the streets, just a little 4-year-old boy playing in the sand in his yard. The commander suddenly starts running, grabs the boy, and breaks his arm at the elbow and his leg here.
Stepped on his stomach three times and left. We all stood there with our mouths open. Looking at him in shock … I asked the commander: “What’s your story?” He told me: These kids need to be killed from the day they are born. When a commander does that, it becomes legit.”
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-12-23/ty-article-opinion/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f2a4-dc18-a3db-fee62b540000
Opinion | ‘When You Leave Israel and Enter Gaza, You Are God’: Inside the Minds of IDF Soldiers Who Commit War Crimes
As a psychologist dealing with brutality in the military, I see how the government rhetoric of hatred is worsening the problem…….
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 27 2024 1:49 utc | 106
by whom? who attacked the Yemeni airport and killed people, while the WHO head was there?
Who did it?
must be those pesky aliens again…..
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1872350362088460504
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Head of the WHO says Israel nearly killed him and killed two crew members of his flight – but won’t say it was Israel
https://x.com/DrTedros/status/1872316621542592924
Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus @DrTedros
Our mission to negotiate the release of @UN staff detainees and to assess the health and humanitarian situation in #Yemen concluded today. We continue to call for the detainees’ immediate release.
As we were about to board our flight from Sana’a, about two hours ago, the airport came under aerial bombardment. One of our plane’s crew members was injured. At least two people were reported killed at the airport……
https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1872382464263655886
Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸 @jacksonhinklle
Why didn’t you say who bombed the airport?
IT WAS AN ISRAELI BOMBING!
https://x.com/snarwani/status/1872375994629362067
Sharmine Narwani @snarwani
You didn’t mention who bombed a civilian airport – Israel. Why?
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 27 2024 2:22 utc | 107
You didn’t mention who bombed a civilian airport – Israel. Why?
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 27 2024 2:22 utc | 109
Because they died of Covid, the houtis wouldn’t wear masks …
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 27 2024 2:25 utc | 108
How many Palestinians have died for freedom?
How many Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian, and Yemeni?
The price of freedom has always been blood.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 21:40 utc | 104
Love, I’m not sure I agree with your definition of freedom.
Iran – since 1979 – is no longer under the jackboot of the empire, and is free to do whatever it wants.
Iran WAS occupied by the empire, like Lebanon, and Palestine, but no longer. Oh, they paid with blood. They paid with blood for that freedom, then. Many scores of thousands, in the aftermath of the revolution, and the imposed war with Iraq.
Iran gained its freedom then. Iran does not need to be “free.”
Yes, Iran is under sanctions, but I always thought, sanctions are the best thing that happened to Iran. It made Iranians get off their butts, and be self sufficient. Can’t import a dishwasher. Make it yourself.
Iran also thought the world how to beat the sanctions. Last time I tried to post, it didn’t go through, so I’ll put ^ in the term. H^A^W^A^L^^A. The best way to move money without physically moving money.
Just because the empire suffers from pleonexia [h/t Karl], doesn’t mean Iran is not free.
I have argued in these very pages, that, only a glass parking lot, is the end game for Iran. Perhaps that’s what you meant? 15 million in Tehran? There is no other solution.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 27 2024 2:45 utc | 109
LoveDonbass@104…..how many have died….well, not enough apparently. They are still not free, many have been involuntary freed from this world…not much to miss here, eh, colonialism be like that…….let’s all be free.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 27 2024 3:58 utc | 110
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1871704195981853135
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
Stories like the Israeli commander breaking the bones of a 4 year old Palestinian child with bare hands, are a confirmation that not only the Israeli army is ROTTEN to the core, but so are all governments that allow these sickening crimes to be normalized.
https://x.com/Alonso_GD/status/1869727973420491192
Alonso Gurmendi @Alonso_GD
Israeli soldiers are telling you, in their own words, with absolute clarity, that they are exterminating Palestinians for sport, in competition with other battalions. That their job is to kill any Palestinian they see in a specific part of Gaza, and you’re still not calling it genocide
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 27 2024 5:10 utc | 111
There’s a delightfully silly 2022 documentary film, on jewed-up BBC, called Jews Don’t Count, hosted by David Baddiel. It’s loosely based on Baddiel’s mawkish 2021 book with the same title.
It’s basically an instruction manual on how to find, identify and accuse anti-semites in any and every society. It runs for 50+ minutes and NEVER mentions the jewish predilection for making no distinction between TRUTH & LIES.
There’s also a light sprinkling of Provocative Sincerity…
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 27 2024 5:41 utc | 112
Malemkov 107
Sex is the addictive component of syphilis.
And while we’re on the subject of addiction, worship is highly addictive human behaviour, as also is ritual, but high de optionality and ritualism doesn’t mean that someone is worshipping and dedicating themselves to something that is worthy of worship.
The Gurus in India practice false worship. They tell people that God is remote. God is indeed NOT remote. He is closer to us than our own jugular artery. But because they sat God is remote they argue that God has to use intermediaries.
God most certainly DOES NOT use intermediaries. Yes, the Gurus say , God uses God-Men, like Jesus AS , or Ali RA, or maybe , I’m so shy to mention it, like me, any donations kindly received. Fuck off , fraud.
The Alawites say that God showed Himself to humans Through Ali RA. The Christians say that God showed Himself through Jesus AS. The Talmudists say that God is embodied in Jews. Jews breaking the bones of Muslim 4 year olds is a Divine act. Fuck the fucking off you fraud.
So, the removal of these frauds who claim authority asxa manifestation of the Divine, be it Alawite , Christian or Talmudist Jew, is basically removing political junk from religion.
God is all-powerful. The military conquest of Palestine is NOT a manifestation of piety. It is a crime against God’s teachings through the prophets, and it is also obviously a crime against God’s Creation, Humanity.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 27 2024 5:59 utc | 113
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When the US Army went to Iraq, they were indoctrinated to believe that were a physical embodiment of Christian Righteousness, sent in the name of God to physically manifest the word of God to Muslim Heathens.
All that they actually manifested was the Christian delusion that a God-Man gave them authority to rule over the entire earth. Jesus AS wasn’t a God-Man. He was a prophet teaching the Oneness and Greatness of God.
The Greatly deluded USUKIS that thinks God has delegated authority to itself, bas now further sub-delegated it’s non- authority to HTS. If USUKIS is a fake, home much more fake is the fake’s fake, HTS? Faker than the Fakin’ Fake.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 27 2024 6:28 utc | 114
I am soon to take a break from “bearing witness” to the crimes of Israel/USUKIS Empire towards Arab/Persian (+) peoples who are geographically an obstacle to the imperial machine seeking Ethno-Supremacist Power & Glory.
I also wish there was a counter-weight to UsUkIs imperial might.
Iran maybe, perhaps Russia & China .. but these are mostly non-aggressive nation-states in the 21st century, with military-industrial complexes geared to defensive/deterrent capacity building given their common history of being viciously provoked & bullied into fighting back.
Like others, I wish somebody would just deal a super painful blow to make the a$%holes back off. But, I dont live in a country strong enough to even try, let alone face the inevitable boomeranging aftermath of worse.
Will the USA ever just F-off? MAGA should be the slogan for Make-America-Go-Away.
Sheesh, considering their population size as 3rd most densely populated, Americans barely even count in international tourism. Even as a culture, they dont want to even see the world in all its diversity, just own and control it from a distance, and make it one bland blue-pill uniculture of the powerful, flaunting over the powerless pacified into subservience. Remaking the planet in their own image.
As one feminist pundit said about equality of the sexes, “a world where women are just mirror-images of men, but with tits & wombs, is not “equality” but a nightmare”. Ditto with making the planet Americanised.
Meanwhile our whole species has planet-wide problems like global warming, desertification, climate weirding, agricultural decline and resource/energy decline etc, but with the scale of bombs dropping, toxic polluting emissions from multi-billions of related war materials etc, making such global problems worse.
I need to find more in my local blue-pill life, at least until a global headline wakes me into the possibility, that just once, the USUKIS Empire gets a serious knock-down.
Posted by: Rain | Dec 27 2024 7:18 utc | 115
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 21:40 utc | 104
How many Palestinians have died for freedom?
How many Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian, and Yemeni?
The price of freedom has always been blood…
More of that unique logic. Freedom through death. It looks like not all Palestinians are free yet, but Israel is working on it.
Will you be cheering on, LoveDonbass?
Posted by: robin | Dec 27 2024 8:06 utc | 116
A cult of freaks
in the desert, smug with power
riding roughshod over people
and no one speaks
Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 27 2024 9:26 utc | 117
Albert Caraco: Life is a Mistake Disguised by Society and Religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtx8gyMIfw
I prepared a couple of quotes but the forum machine ate them. Which is quite annoying.
Posted by: just in | Dec 27 2024 12:03 utc | 118
reply to 120
“Ours” ? Who is this “ours”?
Is the Torah Study bums who breed like rabbits and won’t fight or hold jobs?
Is it the secular Labour types who are tempted to emigrate from a theocracy being shelled or hit almost daily from afar?
Can anyone replace Netanyahu or build a coalition? Will he live forever or always stay out of jail? Will the US always be able to fund Israeli ambitions?
Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 27 2024 12:17 utc | 119
Eighthman 122
” Who is this ours?”
This is the owner of the goldfish , who has suspected for a long time that the goldfish is mouthing sinister threats against him when it opens and shuts it’s mouth, and who is trying to escape its cage when it turns to left and right in its bowl.
The owner’s psychotic malice is projected onto the harmless , golden soul. When the goldfish bowl has finally been smashed and the lounge carpet soaked, does anybody think the psychosis will be cured?
After the US flooded the lounge, maybe the ghost of the goldfish will return seeking vengeance. Israel will demand even bigger borders, like NATO. It will demand all of Asia is smashed.
You know, even if the US budget was big enough to smash all Asia, all Africa, and all Australia to cure Israel’s psychosis, would it not have been cheaper to fire a bullet into Netanyahu’s head , or hire a shrink?
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 27 2024 12:50 utc | 120
The Israelis finished off Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza Strip today. They sieged it, forced an evacuation of patients, staff and people who were family of patients. Took the patients to Indonesian Hospital (which is completely non-functional now due to earlier bombing). Family members and hospital staff were stripped and marched off in the cold.
Then they bombed and burned down the hospital. One source (Hamas itself) claims that 50 Palestinians were killed during this siege and destruction.
There are no more fully functioning hospitals in the northern part of Gaza. Communications are cut off from the staff. The director of the hospital, Dr. Hussam Abu Safia, who has remained in the hospital with his patients throughout this entire Israeli destruction of the north, was given a specific threat from the IDF that he would be arrested this time.
Here are some descriptions from a couple of sources:
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The army is now storming Kamal Adwan Hospital
There are patients who are in danger of dying at any moment.
Later: There are many Israeli army vehicles surrounding the hospital, making the situation extremely dangerous.
Dr. Hussam Abu Safia received a clear and direct threat: “This time we will arrest you.”
Later: Medical staff at Kamal Adwan Hospital:
Kamal Adwan Hospital is under siege. The operating rooms, surgery, laboratory, maintenance and emergency units have been completely burned, and the fire is now spreading to all buildings. Ambulances have been sent to transport the injured to the Indonesian Hospital, which lacks medical supplies, water, medicines, and even electricity and generators. The hospital is working to evacuate patients, medical staff and employees to the Indonesian Hospital.
Later: Israeli occupation forces burn Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza Strip
Later: Gaza Health: We lost contact with the medical teams that were present in Kamal Adwan Hospital
Later: After the occupation forces stormed Kamal Adwan Hospital and communication with the hospital director was cut off, the fate of the medical staff and patients became unknown
– The occupation celebrates the end of a year of genocide by crowning its crimes with the destruction of Kamal Adwan Hospital
– The occupation forces evacuated some patients at gunpoint to the Indonesian Hospital, which the occupation forces destroyed a few days ago, is a crime and an insistence on the occupation’s disregard for the system of values that governs the world
– The occupation forces force medical staff, patients and companions to take off their clothes in the extreme cold and take them out of the hospital to an unknown location
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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The Israeli army issues a statement announcing the start of a military operation inside the Kaman Adwan Hospital, under the pretext of the presence of Hamas infrastructure inside it.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Statement from Hamas:
The storming of Kamal Adwan Hospital
in the northern Gaza Strip by the criminal occupation army and the brutal massacres in its vicinity; Zionist war crimes taking place amid international inaction and complete complicity of the US administration, a partner in the campaign of extermination in the Gaza Strip. The storming of Kamal Adwan Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip by the criminal occupation army and forcing the medical staff, patients, wounded and displaced persons to leave it at gunpoint, after intensifying the barbaric shelling of the hospital’s vicinity last night, which led to the deaths of more than fifty martyrs, including five of the hospital’s medical staff, is a war crime that is added to the long series of crimes committed by the criminal enemy against our people, amidst continued international and international inaction in carrying out their role in protecting civilians and civilian facilities.
We hold the criminal Zionist occupation, and behind it the US administration, complicit in the brutal war of extermination in the Gaza Strip; Full responsibility for the lives of patients, the wounded and the medical staff working in the hospital, after their complete isolation from means of communication and contact, and the leaked news of their exposure to abuse, and the arrest of a number of them and their taking to an unknown location.
We call on the international community, the United Nations, and all countries and active parties to take immediate action and break the cycle of silence and helplessness in the face of this genocide, and take measures that would stop the Zionist aggression and the ongoing genocide against our people, and work to hold this rogue entity and its terrorist leaders accountable for their crimes against humanity.
Islamic Resistance Movement – Hamas
Friday: 26 Jumada al-Akhirah 1446 AH
corresponding to: December 27, 2024 AD
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 13:53 utc | 121
Posted by: teri | Dec 26 2024 20:01 utc | 96
Thank you teri for continually supplying us with relevant info.
Correction to my @ 124 above: The 50 murdered that Hamas mentions is from the attack of the hospital and a housing unit on the hospital grounds on Thursday. The killed were hospital staff members and their families who were living there.
It sounds as though no-one is sure about the number of fatalities today.
More details here: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-soldiers-kamal-adwan-hospital-force-out-medics-and-patients
Note that the temperature in Gaza is 10 C right now (about 50 F) and the picture at the top of the article shows men being led off wearing only underwear.
Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 14:11 utc | 123
Kamal Adwan Hospital:
Reports indicate that approximately 350 people, including 170 medical staff, were ordered by the military to gather in the courtyard ahead of the planned raid. The fate of those individuals remains unknown. – Middleeasteye liveblog
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Ahmad Zaharna, a nurse at the European Gaza Hospital and the Red Cross Field Hospital, tragically passed away this morning due to the intense cold inside his displacement tent in the al-Mawasi area, west of Khan Younis.
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1872544656451682415?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1872544656451682415%7Ctwgr%5E1bbed3478f1cca1afed98d589a1c5732585bb5ee%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fenglish.almanar.com.lb%2F2299475
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Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 14:43 utc | 124
More of that unique logic. Freedom through death.
Posted by: robin | Dec 27 2024 8:06 utc | 118
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How one reacts to a different perspective speaks volumes about their character and capabilities.
Take a break from discussing Palestine until you have some conception of what martyrdom is, why it motivates even young children in Gaza, as well as Hamas, Hezbollah, the IRGC, Ansarallah, etc.
It is ludicrous that people comment on Palestine without an inkling of what Sinwar was about, and clearly don’t know even an outline of his story.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 15:41 utc | 125
@ LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 15:41 utc | 128
Even without understanding the perspective of the Palestinians and their allies (much as this is a good and necessary thing), surely one can understand that some folks would rather die on their feet than on their knees.
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 27 2024 15:46 utc | 126
That is a paradox. Everyone with a heart sympathizes with the Palestinians. Many still think they believe in total nonsense as though they are dumb or simple.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 26 2024 21:40 utc | 104
Absolutely, but at this point the sympathies of non-Muslims can’t mean much to the Palestinians. At least most rulers of Muslim-majority states are open autocrats being bought or threatened by the collective West. What are the citizens of “democratic” states doing to end their government’s role in the genocide? Support for Palestine rarely rises above the level of thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 27 2024 16:28 utc | 127
#130 re. What are the citizens of “democratic” states doing to end their government’s role in the genocide? Support for Palestine rarely rises above the level of thoughts and prayers.
That’s by design. Most folks simply don’t have the time to do much but get by doing what they’ve been ruthlessly trained to do.
Anyone who happens to get to the point of actually doing something practical like withholding taxes will eventually go to prison, and folks who get to this point know it. Also by design.
Most folks in “democratic” states are more or less trapped. And as far as I can tell, most don’t even realize it.
Posted by: Matt | Dec 27 2024 17:24 utc | 128
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 27 2024 2:45 utc | 111
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Was Iran free when the Americans were using Saddam to fight them?
Was Iran free when Trump killed Soleimani?
Was Iran free when Israel assassinated its nuclear researchers?
Was Iran free when the West used STUXNET on them?
Friend, and I mean that sincerely, we have very different conceptions of what freedom is.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 17:46 utc | 129
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The latest that we have from witnesses who have been inside the hospital and managed to reach Gaza City confirmed that the Israeli military had conducted field executions in its vicinity.[…]
Read more: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/12/27/live-israel-bombs-yemen-kills-about-50-people-near-northern-gaza-hospital#ixzz8vdCl7rsx
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Casual announcement to the Israeli public:
Channel 14 correspondent:
Givati fighters [This is an Israeli IDF brigade] apologize to the Israeli public for the unusual noise tonight. They are destroying Jabalia with dozens of tons of explosives, and thanks to them it will soon be in ruins.
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Explosions heard in Tel Aviv linked to intense Gaza bombardment 64km away
Israeli air strikes on Gaza on Thursday night could be heard more than 64km away in southern and central Israel.
– Middleeasteye live blog
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Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 17:51 utc | 130
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 27 2024 15:46 utc | 129
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Well said.
Many people are happy to be in a comfortable herd and to subsist on table scraps in return for limited effort and ambition.
The more comfortable their lives are, the less they are willing to push the envelope.
Our earthly masters understand the comfort trap well. We can smoke, eat, gamble, and screw who/what we want but we’re not allowed to oppose genocide or speak freely in public.
We can exercise freedom of the body, but not of the mind or soul.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 17:53 utc | 131
Note last night 5 journalists were martyred outside of Adwan hospital as their transport was targeted. Journalists left in Adwan have now been ‘arrested’ … abducted, along with all men apparently. There is talk of torture and severe humiliation of those being ‘evacuated’ … i.e. transferred or ‘arrested’.
A link from yesterday shows quadcopter dropping explosives on buildings around Adwan, clear example of what that is about:
https://t.me/youseffares19/63187
Also various rounds (i.e. three or four at a time) of remote explosives were detonated around Adwan.
Note also THAAD is said to have intercepted a Palestine2 missile yesterday.
Currently:
Journalist Youssef Fares
“The city of Beit Hanoun has been subjected to a campaign of genocide since last night, as warplanes and artillery launched dozens of raids on the city crowded with residents. Dozens of martyrs are in the streets and under the roofs of destroyed houses, and no one can save the sick and wounded.”
Posted by: Ornot | Dec 27 2024 17:56 utc | 132
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 27 2024 16:28 utc | 130
Posted by: Matt | Dec 27 2024 17:24 utc | 131
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Well said, both of you.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 18:00 utc | 133
As usual we are up against the same old taboo about USUKIS torture brainwashing people in order to eradicate their humanity.
Until the world accepts that these Likud Nazis and other USUKIS freaks are capable of the evil of human psychological experimentation like Dr Mengele in WW2, we still think Israelis
are using the eschatological tripe cited by Netanyahu.
People in positions of authority don’t crush children’s bones and strip adults UNLESS they have been brainwashed into doing it by US, British and Israeli, Nazi war criminals.
Unless we are prepared to break the taboo, that Western governments would never use the psychological torture of the German and Japanese Nazis, we are incapable of stopping our government’s from.jointly genocidiing the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians and soon Iranian people.
Like Covid, it’s an experiment on you, by psychological lunatics who want to know how far they can raise the psychological.pain threshold and still maintain control of society.
If you don’t understand what they are trying to do, you are condoning their experiment on you. Like mouse with a human ear grafted onto you.
We have to know that we are participating in a social experiment as to how far government can break social norms without protest. The experiment is not on the Palestinians. It is on You.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 27 2024 18:02 utc | 134
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
“Iranian Defense Minister:
Israel has failed to weaken our defensive and offensive capabilities, and we will definitely respond to its aggression.”
Posted by: Ornot | Dec 27 2024 18:05 utc | 135
Was Iran free when the Americans were using Saddam to fight them?
Was Iran free when Trump killed Soleimani?
Was Iran free when Israel assassinated its nuclear researchers?
Was Iran free when the West used STUXNET on them?
Friend, and I mean that sincerely, we have very different conceptions of what freedom is.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 17:46 utc | 132
Love, aside from the Iraq war – which Iran fought to free itself – what you have listed is instances of terrorism. No country is immune to it, especially as long as there is an empire. Terror IS the way of the empire.
Yes, we do have a different conception of freedom.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 27 2024 18:29 utc | 136
so apparently the last hospital in Gaza has been destroyed. Billmon used to do a side by side comparison of events that were separate but still related. It would be interesting to see how MSM reported on all the children’s hospitals that were attacked in Syria and the hospitals (all of them) in Gaza.
I am personally ashamed that my country can be so callous. I wish it weren’t and have trouble interacting with people who think this is normal and necessary.
I also have trouble with the fact that it is not allowed to criticize Israel. While it may be true that they are acting with the full support of the US Government, it is also true that they are murderous bastards.
since I am ranting, the anti-semite charge that gets thrown around is so wrong. Not only are the people of Gaza semetic but the people in charge of the government of Israel are not semetic, rather eastern Europeans. damn good PR to get that narrative established.
Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 27 2024 18:52 utc | 137
Anyone who happens to get to the point of actually doing something practical like withholding taxes will eventually go to prison, and folks who get to this point know it.
Posted by: Matt | Dec 27 2024 17:24 utc | 131
At this point protestors are disemployed and sent to prison for standing up to Israel, and people know it! But this is making the left wing of Western globalism profoundly unpopular with their immigrant voters. Meanwhile, the right wing of globalism is even less popular. President Trump mostly avoids this by being anti-war and focused on his own country.
I’d certainly prefer more people being awake, but if you can’t engage people openly sympathizing on your side, you can’t expect more people to join up. The Corbyn movement is the start of this in the UK. Let’s see where it goes.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 27 2024 18:59 utc | 138
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 27 2024 18:29 utc | 139
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You call direct state actions terrorism. Technically, they are not. Killing Soleimani was not terrorism. It was a casus belli that Iran did not escalate to open war.
The only exception on my list was the use of Saddam, which was direct war by proxy, not unlike what the West has been doing with Ukraine since ’14.
So yeah, being subject to persistent attacks by America and Israel isn’t “freedom” no matter how you rename/rationalize it. That doesn’t even account for sanctions which are an act of war, and Iran has persistently been under sanctions since the revolution.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 19:05 utc | 139
“Was Iran free when… [attacked]
Friend, and I mean that sincerely, we have very different conceptions of what freedom is.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 17:46 utc | 132
Having powerful enemies attacking you creates severe constraints and hardship.
Freedom has unbounded definitions. Free to do what? To whom?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 27 2024 19:24 utc | 140
Freedom has unbounded definitions. Free to do what? To whom?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 27 2024 19:24 utc | 143
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David, I appreciate your point. Perfect freedom is not possible, all we can do as thinkers on the subject is to compare situations relatively.
Let’s say as free as KSA. One is the home of Shia Islam, the other the home of Sunni Islam. Geographically, they are not far apart, and while Persian culture is not Arab culture, they both have societies rooted in the same philosophical and moral foundation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 19:53 utc | 141
They Call Me Mister@1859 Dec 27
Mere politicking. The “Corbyn Movement” which you cite is admirable only at a lower octave. The word is “POLITRIX”. Yeah, by means of edumacasion by the rulers of the state and the mass media of misinformation and mindfuckery; large numbers of the serfs remain unawakened.
A genuinely “Glorious Revolution” would “arrest” the ruling elite, en masse and transport the lot of them to the island of St. Helena. The remnants of the “Royal” Navy should be sufficient to constantly patrol that island of exile to see to it that none escape while at the same time humanitarialy providing them with rice and beans.
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 27 2024 19:56 utc | 142
Correction on my 1956/145
Mis-spelling of a reputed neologism: Tough to self-edit of such small print on sends. Word on last line should have appeared as “Humanitarianly”. Quite understandable, I should hope. Apologies for the confusion.
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 27 2024 20:00 utc | 143
Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 13:53 utc | 124
It’s just “by the way” news in the West:
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-syria-lebanon-news-27-december-2024-0240c348e19255d1c1ceedc8b9ff3722?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
While babies are killed by their bombs:
https://x.com/GhassanAbuSitt1/status/1872609911194198153
Posted by: Menz | Dec 27 2024 20:04 utc | 144
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 27 2024 19:56 utc | 145
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This. 100% this.
Time to judge people by what they do, not what they say.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 20:21 utc | 145
So yeah, being subject to persistent attacks by America and Israel isn’t “freedom” no matter how you rename/rationalize it.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 27 2024 19:05 utc | 142
Love, as I said we seem to have a different conception of freedom. To me, not having three letter agencies from the empire, sitting in Tehran making decisions for Iran is a certain freedom.
As for sanctions, attacks, and the rest, to quote Kanye West: that doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger.
Dropping this for now.
Cheers,
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 27 2024 20:22 utc | 146
Nothing compared to the genocide, but this video of IZ’s cold degradation of every aspect of life is horrible. Perfectly good roads and they make it so not even a donkey cart can pass by. Domicide!
When is Lebanon going to say enough, this ceasefire’s a horrible hoax, therefore the battle front is rejoined?
Lebanese Brigadier General Warns of New Status Quo as Israeli Enemy Escalates Violations – Al-Manar TV Lebanon
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2299717
Posted by: Sticker | Dec 27 2024 20:23 utc | 147
It remains unknown what the exact calculations informing the Lebanese ceasefire consisted of. The leverage Lebanon had, consisting of Hezbollah’s successful defence of the southern border preventing Israeli ground assault, either was surrendered or bargained in the face of what must be assumed was tremendous pressure from the Americans. The immediate events in Syria, a planned incursion starting the following day, surely informed the U.S. position and added urgency.
It will be interesting – for future reference at least – to understand what assurances if any the Americans provided in their proposed role as guarantor of the ceasefire, and to what extent the terms and conditions of the 60-day buffer period were detailed. Surely the Lebanese would not have agreed to the freedom of movement and kinetic destruction undertaken by Israel’s armed forces. The complete indifference by the Americans to such aggressive behaviour suggests otherwise. There is no reason to expect Israel’s compliance to a withdrawal at end of 60 days or ever unless forced to retreat under fire. Why should anyone negotiate with the Americans about anything without retaining decisive leverage?
Why the Lebanese abandoned their leverage is a mystery – if that is what they done. The response after 60 days, if Israel and their guarantor renege, will fill in some of the blanks for sure.
Posted by: jayc | Dec 27 2024 21:01 utc | 148
The word ‘freedom’ is understood to originate from a word meaning ‘family’ . That is to say being at home and at ease with the surroundings and society.
The word ‘liberty’ is said derived from no longer being a slave, or legaly restricted in status or ability.
Although the words are confused often, there is a clear difference between ‘being at peace or at home in one’s environment’, and ‘being able to do whatever one feels like’ .
Sanctions on Iran are not a restriction on freedom, unless one considers that freedom must include the ability to interact with the rest of the world a certain way.
That is a reason why national boundaries are such a set parameter in disputes. What goes on outside of a nation is ultimately not responsibility of that nation (unless that nation misbehaves of course), but for a nation to trespass on the order of any other nation within its borders is often contested to a maximum, i.e. taken as meaning (an act of) war (‘war’ is derived from confusion, as in to sow confusion).
Where that leaves that discussion, I don’t know.
Posted by: Ornot | Dec 27 2024 22:42 utc | 149
@ Menz | Dec 27 2024 20:04 utc | 147
The AP News article you link to sure has a different take on what’s happening, that’s for sure.
They claim the IDF stormed and burned a hospital “in isolated northern Gaza after forcibly removing staff and patients on Friday, Health Ministry officials said. The Israeli military said the hospital was being used by Hamas fighters as a base, although it did not provide evidence.” Yeah, Isolated because Israel has completely cut the north of Gaza from the rest. And there were no Hamas fighters, but since Israel has taken all the men away to unknown fates, they will never actually have to “prove” anything – nor does the West actually expect them to.
The article goes on to say that the IDF set small fires in some parts of the hospital, but they sure don’t know how the rest of the building burned. ‘Tis mysterious.
OK. That was all for Western propaganda value.
Here’s what is actually happening.
Some hospital workers were severely burned when the IDF forced them to use chlorine-mixed water to try and put parts of the fires out. This caused the fires to worsen, and several medical staff members were burned alive.
The evacuated patients were supposed to be taken to Indonesian Hospital in Gaza, but only a few nurses and 6 wounded have arrived there. In any case, the Indonesian Hospital was converted to an IDF barracks a couple of days ago – it’s dfoubrful that was ever intended to be used to care for any of these patients or evacuees. This is a pre-planned slaughter of hospital personnel, their families housed by the hospital, and the patients.
Latest updates that I have found in the past half-hour [not neccesarily in time order, and some repeat a bit of the information found in other links]:
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The Palestinian health ministry in Gaza said that Israeli forces are sending dozens of medical staff from Kamal Adwan Hospital, including the medical director, to an investigation centre.
Al Jazeera is also reporting that the Israeli army is demanding Palestinians living near the hospital evacuate their buildings. If they don’t, then the buildings will be blown up.
Earlier on Friday, Israeli troops stormed the hospital and set fire to certain parts, leading to the deaths of several medical staff who were burned alive.
Al Jazeera is reporting, citing medical sources, that several medical staff members were burned to death in the fires set by Israel’s military in the Kamal Adwan Hospital on Friday.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/live-israel-kills-least-58-palestinians-24-hours
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‘No contact’ with anyone who was at Kamal Adwan Hospital
A short while ago, health authorities in Gaza held a news conference outside al-Ahli Bapist Hospital in Gaza City.
Gaza’s Health Ministry official Maher Shamia said they’re struggling to find out what happened at Kamal Adwan Hospital.
“We cannot say that we know where the children and elderly, who were in Kamal Adwan Hospital, are,” said Shamia.
“Some say they went to the Indonesian Hospital but we have no contact with the paitents or the medical staff. We have no information about those who were arrested, we have no information about those who went to another hospital or to a school. That is not known by us because we have no contact.”
https://aje.io/inxmnq?update=3411070
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A testimony from inside Kamal Adwan Hospital : I have just contacted my sister, who is one of the remaining medical staff at Kamal Adwan. They are all in the reception department now, and they want to take them to the Indonesian. They are calling them by turns, and there is a truck outside the hospital that they are taking them out in.
All the young men who were in the hospital were arrested, including my sister’s husband. They assaulted the women and asked them to take off their clothes as well, but they refused. They were insulted in a way that was even more hideous than what happened in Al-Shifa Hospital.
They ask you to pray for them because their situation is very difficult and death is surrounding them from all sides.
Shorouk Saleh Khader al-Rantisi, a laboratory worker at Kamal Adwan Hospital, described the events that followed her forced evacuation upon arrival in Gaza City. Despite their collective resistance to removing their hijabs, the women were forced to remove their outer clothing for humiliating group searches. Medical staff witnessed soldiers burning archives and destroying remaining sections. Patients were left behind on promises of ambulances that never arrived, while Dr. Hussam and other staff remained inside the hospital, their fate unknown.
– The occupation army brought three ambulances to transport 35 wounded to the Indonesian hospital
– None of the medical staff from the men undergoing investigation arrived at the Indonesian hospital
– The occupation army set fire to a number of departments and asked the detained men from the medical staff to put it out. Due to the lack of water, the men were forced to use chlorine-mixed water designated for the kidney dialysis department, which caused the fire to break out and they suffered burns
– A number of the wounded were martyred as a result of the fires and the smoke emanating from them
– The occupation army is still delaying the evacuation of the wounded and the medical staff to the Indonesian hospital. Only a number of nurses and six wounded have arrived since the morning hours until now.
All of the above from: https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Oh, and regarding the massive explosions from northern Gaza heard all the way in Tel Aviv earlier today (Tel Aviv ia about 40 miles from Gaza.):
Yedioth Ahronoth [Israeli newspaper]:
The source of the powerful explosions heard last night in the center of the country is an Israeli military development that began at the beginning of the war and was also used in southern Lebanon.
The forces rely on old armored personnel carriers filled with tons of explosives to be used to blow up Palestinian areas before the forces enter them.
The “street earthquake” operation to activate the pre-planted explosives is carried out using old M-113 armored personnel carriers, which the IDF rarely uses, which are filled with tons of explosives and detonated remotely.
The explosion of a single armored personnel carrier can have the effect of four or five large JDAM bombs.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 22:50 utc | 150
Some misspellings in my @ 153. Sorry – my eyes are done for the day.
Posted by: teri | Dec 27 2024 22:54 utc | 151
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
“Yedioth Ahronoth:
The source of the powerful explosions heard last night in the center of the country is an Israeli military development that began at the beginning of the war and was also used in southern Lebanon.
The forces rely on old armored personnel carriers filled with tons of explosives to be used to blow up Palestinian areas before the forces enter them.”
Video from surveillance cameras documenting the moment of the Israeli bombing of Sana’a International Airport in Yemen, while the Director-General of the World Health Organization was present at the airport and the moment he fled in fear of the bombing
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/87789
Journalist Youssef Fares
“About 30 displaced persons arrive at the Indonesian hospital from Kamal Adwan Hospital with serious health complications”
(Indonesian reported to have been at least partly turned into occupation barrack)
Medical sources to Al Jazeera: A number of medical personnel were burned to death in the fire set by the occupation forces in Kamal Adwan
The occupation forces demand that those besieged in the houses surrounding Kamal Adwan Hospital evacuate them or they will blow them up.”
“Documentation of the demolition of more houses and towers in northern Gaza, Beit Hanoun.”
https://t.me/youseffares19/63274
Posted by: Ornot | Dec 27 2024 22:55 utc | 152
Maybe someone will source this opinion:
“Swiss nuclear researcher: Israel tested a small tactical nuclear bomb in the Syrian city of Tartus
Satellite image shows a section of a mountain about 200 feet wide disappearing into the sky, with tree branches and foliage in a radius of about a kilometer vaporizing.”
https://t.me/SEPAHCYBERY/107220
Posted by: Ornot | Dec 27 2024 23:04 utc | 153
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1872293892856635556
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Yemen is not Gaza or Lebanon and these occasional Israeli attacks have little consequences, in particular because Yemen is far and officials learned from Lebanon’s war to change the locations of leaders and strategic warehouses. Yemen will retaliate sooner than expected.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/12/27/739798/Missile-fired-from-Yemen-hits-Tel-Aviv
‘Hypersonic’ Yemeni missile hits Tel Aviv after Israeli airstrikes
Air raid sirens have sounded over a large part of the Israeli occupied territories following a missile attack from Yemen which targeted Tel Aviv early Friday and caused Ben Gurion airport to shut down.
Israel’s emergency services reported that 18 settlers were injured in Tel Aviv while attempting to reach the safety of shelters.
Videos shared online showed Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system failing, as it attempted to intercept the incoming projectile.
The missile strike reportedly forced half of the occupied territories into lockdown, with Israeli outlets describing the incident as a failure of the regime’s defensive measures…..
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-israel–prepares-for-a-new-battlefront-against-yemen–washp
‘Israel’ prepares for a new battlefront against Yemen: WashPo
Israeli occupation prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has recently vowed to strike Yemen until “they learn,” but will he be successful?
….The YAF “are more technologically advanced than many perceive” and should not be “underrated,” according to an Israeli official who spoke on condition of anonymity. He stated that with Iran’s help. the YAF were able to take “practical steps” toward achieving their goals.
Their drones, missiles, and projectiles, analysts say, are circumventing “Israel’s” once-vaunted air defense systems, reviving “Israel’s” dilemma of how to fight an opponent armed with inexpensive and plentiful stores of weaponry…..
…..Days ago, Israeli General Eran Ortal asserted that the fight with Yemen will go on for years, detailing how what strengthened the image of power in Sanaa is that they are still on the battlefield against “Israel”, while others have become less active, meaning that they are “the only ones who continue to fight against Israel.”…..
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 0:10 utc | 154
“Israeli occupation prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has recently vowed to strike Yemen until “they learn,” but will he be successful? ”
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They are not only evil and pathological but also plain obnoxious, like the creepiest kid on the playground or the most self-righteous nun in the convent (“Sister Mary”).
I pray that the Yeminis, and the Turks, and just about anyone, pound the Zionists until THEY, the Zionists, “learn.”
Learn that they are not exceptional, that their s— stinks, and that the rest of the world prays that they soon will disappear forever.
When I read of the incomprehensible genocidal madness I blame Judaism itself and all who are part of this monstrous, murderous cult.
Posted by: Jane | Dec 28 2024 0:57 utc | 155
Regarding the 18 Dec 2024 strike on Tartus, perhaps video of which linked by Ornot | Dec 27 2024 23:04 utc | 156.
(report from a source with which I am not familiar but does reference Sputnik report)
Is it possible to determine if it was a B61?
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“…The strike caused a massive explosion, triggering a 3.0 magnitude earthquake that was felt as far away as Iznik, Turkey, located 820 kilometers from Tartus. Russian media outlet Sputnik reported that Israel used a new missile launched from a warship. Some reports also claim that the B61 nuclear bomb, developed by the United States, might have been involved.
“The European Union’s Radioactive Environmental Monitoring detected increased radiation levels in Turkey and Cyprus approximately 20 hours after the blast…”
https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-israeli-strike-sparks-global-concern-did-it-explode-small-nuclear-bomb-in-syria-report-claims-3124073
Posted by: suzan | Dec 28 2024 1:37 utc | 156
@ suzan | Dec 28 2024 1:37 utc | 159 with the nuke being used story…thx
I hope it is wrong but not likely, eh?
I hope Russia is making and deploying the hazel trees as fast as possible and maybe even getting China and Iran to help out…..the test is having enough AD to stop any/all empire nukes.
What are the Islamic states going to say to this information?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 28 2024 2:04 utc | 157
Turkish Nationalism.
Simplicius’ new article seems to validate the Neo-Ottoman idea around Turkey’s latest moves in the region.
Isn’t Turkish Nationalism Neo-Ottomanism?
Yes, indeed, beware Turkey.
They are going to steamroll the Kurds and the U.S. will probably have to vacate the region, abandoning their Kurdish proxies.
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What of the Ottoman’s administering the region? How does this bode for the Palestinians and Hezbollah?
Russia is watching.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 2:09 utc | 158
Posted by: Jane | Dec 28 2024 0:57 utc | 158
Thank you, Jane. After reading your post, I had the thought that one Jew did learn, but it took a blinding flash throwing him off his horse on the way to Damascus.
The intransigence of the many can be seen at the time of the speech of Stephen when he was being listened to by angry Israelis, who then stoned him. (Acts 6 and 7) We remember this in the Christmas carol “Good King Wenceslas looked out, on the feast of Stephen…” That comes two days after Christmas on my old calendar, and sadly enough also the martyred children are remembered then as well: “Lulee Lulah, thou little tiny child….” So too for the western calendar, I am sure.
Saul, who became Paul, stood where were the coats of those who were stoning Stephen — he remembered now in the midst of the martyred children, as Protomartyr, on the churches’ calendars.
“… Bye bye, lulee lulay …”
Posted by: juliania | Dec 28 2024 2:30 utc | 159
Jane | Dec 26 2024 20:18 utc | 97
*** Not arguing, but IMO this manifests the dehumanizing of Zionists. All Zionists. The perps, and those who greet these monsters and the monstrosities they commit with jubilees and huzzahs. These are the dehumanized monsters we see.***
UK government and its alleged opposition in parliament, plus the mass-media, are absolutely stuffed with such ‘people’.
Posted by: Cynic | Dec 28 2024 3:18 utc | 160
NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 2:09 utc | 161
Nemesis, you write that Turkey will roll over Kurds – that may be the intent, but Kurds will have support of Israel – they are Israeli stooges in Caucasus, Israel will fight tooth and nail to help them; they are a leverage israel uses in fight against Iran, they help Israel to divide and rule over the entire ME. But that scheme will have an end when uncle Sam will go under economically.
Posted by: fanto | Dec 28 2024 3:49 utc | 161
I have heard that Haaretz is reporting that 60% of Israelis called to service are refusing to obey their orders.
Also according to Haaretz, Hamas is believed to have rebuilt its manpower to where it was before Oct 7th.
After the pager attack and bombings of Yemen, I think it is safe to think that Hezbollah and Ansarallah are back at or near full strength.
The cowardly Zionist occupiers like to drop bombs but suck at ground combat, now they can’t even get enough men to do that badly.
Still not able to restart the economy in the North and the Houthis have interdicted most sea traffic. All supplies must be brought in by truck from one of the American vassal Arab states, which is unsustainable, and fragile.
As soon as the ceasefire with Lebanon expires, Hezbollah may pick up where they left off with hundreds and hundreds of missiles at central Israel.
Israel will be lucky to make it to the next US federal election. I will be amused watching Trump and the Congress trying to protect their paymasters from inevitable defeat.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 28 2024 4:03 utc | 162
Thank you to Arch,
Definitely there was a hit on Ashelon power station in disgusting entity.
I was without internet for 3 days, but have now catched up.
Resistance goes on, against evil.
And evil is in your societies, deeply engrained.
Posted by: stranger | Dec 28 2024 5:09 utc | 163
@ fanto 164
Harkensing back to the Nagarno-Karabakh conflict, the drone technology exhibited by Azerbaijan with the assistance of Turkey was unbelievably deadly.
The Kurds do not stand a chance.
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I think the Israelis have made a deal they will regret: they will let Turkey consolidate the region and set-up administration as a Neo-Caliphate. They will leave the Kurds to their fate and, in exchange, will take what they can from Syria and then the conflict will freeze.
Two questions:
1) How will the U.S. respond?
I think they may come to stern threats with Turkey but Russia will come to Turkey’s aid and position themselves and ready accordingly.
2) Why did Erdogan allow Ukrop-drone expertise in the region? Cui Bono? And what do they get for their advisory role in assisting the drone-offensive?
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This is getting confusing and I don’t like it.
Once everything is settled, will the Neo-Caliphate go to work on the Israeli colony?
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 5:40 utc | 164
see the short video at the first link
https://x.com/alhussai1/status/1872680959809888472
Jassem Alhussaini @alhussai1
من السنن الشيطانية لدى جماعة الإرهابي الجولاني ، اجبار العلويين على الزحف والنباح !! سؤال بما ان الجماعة يدعون الإسلام فهل هذا الفعل له مصدر في الكتاب والسنة ؟
google trans: One of the satanic traditions of the terrorist Al-Jolani group is forcing the Alawites to crawl and bark!! Question: Since the group claims to be Muslims, does this act have a source in the Qur’an and Sunnah?
https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1872158611612602653
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
Israel has just massacred five journalists in Gaza, burning them alive. This on the same day that reports emerge of Palestinian babies freezing to death in the refugee camps. Every day this regime charts new depths of barbarism.
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2299981
Hamas Official Says ‘Israel’ Rejected Ceasefire, Full Prisoner Swap Gradual Withdrawal from Gaza
….Hamdan noted that Hamas had proposed a deal which stipulates a complete ceasefire, gradual Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, and a full prisoner swap.
“However, Netanyahu’s government rejected the proposal.”
The Palestinian resistance continued on Friday attacking the Zionist occupation forces in Gaza. A Qassam fighter managed to blow himself up with an explosive belt in a Zionist force of 5 soldiers, killing and wounding them. As soon as the rescue forces arrived at the scene, Al-Qassam Brigades fighters sniped two of them and showered them with a number of Zionist-made hand grenades in the Tel Al-Zaatar area, east of the Jabalia camp, north of the Strip. Al-Quds Brigades fighters, for their part, targeted the Israeli occupation forces in Jabalia camp with artillery shells.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 6:07 utc | 165
If Israel has used a mininuke in Tartus, that would appear to be a USUKIS act of aggression against Russia. Maybe a tit for tat for the Oreshnik demo.
Russia reserves the right to respond to USUKIS aggression in the theatre of its own choosing. So next time the Oreshnik is used it might directly target USUKIS installations like Cyprus, or it might attack USUKIS installations in Africa or somewhere else.
Right now, Russia needs to upgrade Iran’s firepower to nuclear in order to deter USUKIS from attacking Iran. USUKIS nuking Tartus bunkers and underground installations is sufficient to flip Russian diplomatic support for the Zionists in Likud to full scale Russian Diplomatic opposition to the warcrimes in Gaza , Lebanon and Syria.
Or a joint opposition by BRICS.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 28 2024 6:16 utc | 166
If Israel has used a mininuke in Tartus, that would appear to be a USUKIS act of aggression against Russia. Maybe a tit for tat for the Oreshnik demo.
Russia reserves the right to respond to USUKIS aggression in the theatre of its own choosing. So next time the Oreshnik is used it might directly target USUKIS installations like Cyprus, or it might attack USUKIS installations in Africa or somewhere else.
Right now, Russia needs to upgrade Iran’s firepower to nuclear in order to deter USUKIS from attacking Iran. USUKIS nuking Tartus bunkers and underground installations is sufficient to flip Russian diplomatic support for the Zionists in Likud to full scale Russian Diplomatic opposition to the warcrimes in Gaza , Lebanon and Syria.
Or a joint opposition by BRICS.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 28 2024 6:16 utc | 167
there will be israeli blood
https://x.com/Aldanmarki/status/1872339984331706448
روني الدنماركي @Aldanmarki
Scenes from Sana’a International Airport, which was bombed by the Israeli Air Force just a couple hours ago.
Blood stains everywhere in the departure lounge.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-assisted-israeli-attack-on-yemen-hits-un-officials–infra
US-assisted Israeli attack on Yemen hits Sanaa Airport during UN visit
“Israel” launches a large-scale attack on Yemen, targeting civilian facilities including Sanaa International Airport and Hodeideh Port with US-UK assistance.
…..Significantly, sources told Al Mayadeen, that the Israeli aggression on Sanaa International Airport took place during the presence of two UN personnel in the airport: the WHO’s Director and the UN’s resident coordinator.
Moreover, the sources reported that the UN airplane’s co-captain had been injured and was transported to a hospital after the Israeli aggression on the airport, adding that two other airport employees were also killed as a result of the attack…..
….Channel 14 confirmed that the attack targeted three central sites: Sanaa Airport, a power plant in Sana’a, and the Hodeidah port, noting that “this is not an ordinary attack, but the opening of a battle that could be prolonged.”
Israeli Channel 14’s correspondent also mentioned that Israeli aircraft disabled Sanaa International Airport by destroying the control towers and also disrupted the Hodeidah seaport….
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 7:38 utc | 168
https://x.com/AbbyMartin/status/1872332224726798741
Abby Martin @AbbyMartin
On Christmas in Gaza, three babies froze to death and five journalists were assassinated in a press van while waiting for the birth of one’s child. 14 months of global inaction while bearing witness to humanity’s worst possible crimes
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 8:25 utc | 169
is-real-hell please call the occupation forces by what they are DEMONS. once you truly understand the spiritual side of our reality, the duality, between the good and the evil. Vladimir v p is right, god is on Russia’s side. they have orthodox Christians and Chechn suni Muslims together on 1 side, fighting against the evil demon Nazis.
Russia must 1st free it’s own historical lands, and ethnic peoples from the evil nazi demon possessed, before it is able to tackle the once Holy Land, Turned into Is-Real-Hell by the occupying zionist Demon possessed savages.
Does anyone really care?
Difference between “state” and “nation” and “country”, in an organization claiming itself to be planet Earth’s “United Nations”?
Nobody cares.
Why is that guy not riding a limousine from NY to Vegas already? (Site host, not any random ranter.)
Anyway, if I should post again here (I think site host is getting tired of being repetitive; I agree), you may recognize me as a dark hearted type, but if I feel “the need” (<-- is that the reason for life?) to be "anonymous" adh is usually the acronym I leave behind... Cheers!
Posted by: Third Post (Maybe?) | Dec 28 2024 12:15 utc | 171
“NemesisCalling | Dec 28 2024 2:09 utc | 161
Nemesis, you write that Turkey will roll over Kurds – that may be the intent, but Kurds will have support of Israel – they are Israeli stooges in Caucasus, Israel will fight tooth and nail to help them; they are a leverage israel uses in fight against Iran, they help Israel to divide and rule over the entire ME. But that scheme will have an end when uncle Sam will go under economically.”
Posted by: fanto | Dec 28 2024 3:49 utc | 164
The Kurds/Medes are a stubborn people and have been around for over 3,000 years.
In Xenophon’s , ‘Anabasis’, he was the de fact leader of 10,000 Greek mercenary hoplites, the best fighters in the world at that time. Roughly 2, 450 years ago his army passed into a valley escaping Persia after their side got defeated and it was the Kurds’ valley-the Kurds beat them up and they had to retreat.(1)
1. https://cultureproject.org.uk/kurdistan-on-the-path-of-a-historical-evolution/
I am not couting the Krurds out.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 28 2024 12:44 utc | 182
USA would keep their pet Kurds SDF. Erdogan has ripped out his ‘Go over to Russia camp.’ ticket and risk personal assassinations or color revolution with absolutely nobody coming to his aid.
So
Erdogan wouldn’t dare move against Kurds directly, and USA have no qualms destroying his Salafist Proxy.
Posted by: Lucci | Dec 28 2024 15:01 utc | 173
You people crack me up. What about the self-hating Jews like Bernie Sanders, Jeffrey Sacks, and John Mearsheimer? Are they to blame too? But Islam sure gets a pass, right? A peaceful and loving religion. Just look at those Muslims in Syria! They all get along so, so well. Truly the model of our future civilization. LOL.
When I read of the incomprehensible genocidal madness I blame Judaism itself and all who are part of this monstrous, murderous cult.
Posted by: Jane | Dec 28 2024 0:57 utc | 158
Posted by: John Wick | Dec 28 2024 7:53 utc | 178
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John Mick sees no difference between a truly universal religion, Islam, that harbors some extremists and Judaism, in which exceptionalism, chosenness, superiority, and will to rule over other humans is the Ur-DNA of the religion—basically its only tenet.
Mick’s use of the term “self-hating Jew” suggests that he is a member of the tribe with the three-thousand-year superiority complex.
Cheers, Jane
Posted by: Jane | Dec 28 2024 15:09 utc | 174
a new one from the psychos at the BBC
https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1872762818673689030
Alan MacLeod @AlanRMacLeod
“Forcibly evacuates” is a new one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o
Israel forcibly evacuates Kamal Adwan hospital in northern Gaza
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1872766956497191401
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Zionist troops have set fire to the Kamal Edwan Hospital in northern Gaza, several Palestinian medical personnel were trapped inside and they burned to death.
#GazaHolocaust
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 15:38 utc | 175
Peter Cronau reposted
Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
Meet Iyah May.
She is an Australian based singer who just lost a contract with her management company because she refused to change these lyrics.
It’s amazing! 🙏🏼
https://x.com/RyanAFournier/status/1873804594394128554
Posted by: Menz | Jan 1 2025 9:30 utc | 176