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December 22, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-307
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Two US Navy pilots shot down over Red Sea in apparent ‘friendly fire’ incident, US military says Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 22 2024 13:31 utc | 1 Saying “friendly fire” can be a way of not having to say they were shot down by some beduins 😀 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 22 2024 13:39 utc | 2 @Apollyon | Dec 22 2024 13:31 utc | 1
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/14000 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 22 2024 14:40 utc | 3 IDF casualty tally as of Sunday 22/12/2024: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 14:54 utc | 4 RE: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 14:54 utc | 4 Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 22 2024 15:30 utc | 5 – It’s been a bloodbath this past week for the IDF terrorists Posted by: financial matters | Dec 22 2024 15:34 utc | 6 @ Posted by: financial matters | Dec 22 2024 15:34 utc | 6 Posted by: bored | Dec 22 2024 15:55 utc | 7 Vile Filth Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 15:56 utc | 8 I notice that many people say that Russia and Iran abandoned Syria. Posted by: Afro | Dec 22 2024 15:57 utc | 9 @4 Posted by: Alpi | Dec 22 2024 15:59 utc | 10 Yemen Hits Tel Aviv and US Bombs Sanaa Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 16:07 utc | 11 Troop shortages I can understand, but what economic problems? They have a blank check from America. Posted by: financial matters | Dec 22 2024 16:09 utc | 12 “The US retaliates for strikes on Israel because they are a single entity.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 16:18 utc | 13 If Iran had any sense, or balls, it would take out the planes, hangars and runways. And that would be the end of Israel’s IDF. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 16:21 utc | 14 afro # 9. Sanctions. 13 years of sanctions against Assad. China has plenty of problems without incurring more Evil Empire temper tantrums. Trumpstein on deck with more shouting “sanctions sanctions sanctions evil china”etc. It’s complicated. One must tread carefully. The bigger prize may be Africa which the Rottenfellah/Rottenchild Zionists would love to steal. China has lots of investments in Africa. Taking the long view perhaps. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Dec 22 2024 16:22 utc | 15 Good Boy… Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 16:24 utc | 16 I don’t get why the US is bombing Sanaa. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 22 2024 16:26 utc | 17 Houthi operation as reported Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 16:29 utc | 18 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 14:54 utc | 4 Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 16:31 utc | 19 Do you seriously not get why USrael bombs (the living crap outta) Lebanon and Syria? My humble suggestion: we bomb Yemen for the same reason, if you can find one. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 16:35 utc | 20 Your innocence on this comes off as inscrutable sarcasm, Arch. Do you seriously not get why USrael bombs (the living crap outta) Lebanon and Syria? My humble suggestion: we bomb Yemen for the same reason, if you can find one. Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 22 2024 16:35 utc | 21 Quick survey of US media: crickets on F18 shootdown. Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 16:39 utc | 22 To Whom It May Concern… Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 16:40 utc | 23 “According to the Warshington Post, the Western-backed ‘Palestine Authority’ traitor regime is murdering resistance fighters in Jenin to audition for the role as the Vichy government in Gaza on behalf of the genocidal Zionist enemy…” Posted by: Chas | Dec 22 2024 16:41 utc | 24 Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 16:29 utc | 18 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 22 2024 16:50 utc | 25 Somewhere out there Mildred is feeding the cows Posted by: librul | Dec 22 2024 17:04 utc | 26 Troop shortages I can understand, but what economic problems? They have a blank check from America. Posted by: kupkee | Dec 22 2024 17:07 utc | 27 I notice that many people say that Russia and Iran abandoned Syria.
Posted by: ChasMark | Dec 22 2024 17:30 utc | 28 I’m just saying that bombing Sanaa is past the point of diminishing returns. Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 17:53 utc | 29 29 Grey Turd Israel Posted by: Giyane | Dec 22 2024 18:14 utc | 30 @Posted by: Greater Israel | Dec 22 2024 17:36 utc | 29 Posted by: librul | Dec 22 2024 18:26 utc | 31 Posted by: Greater Israel | Dec 22 2024 17:36 utc | 29 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 22 2024 18:44 utc | 32 What are the chances, of seeing these buses with the same livery going up and down your high street – let me guess – zero chance. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 22 2024 18:50 utc | 33 “For exactly 10 hours, we have been posting about the attack on Kamal Odwan Hospital, from targeting the main gate to blowing up a booby-trapped vehicle and opening fire at the patients and doctors. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 22 2024 18:50 utc | 34 The Pope says, that what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinian people – is the definition of genocide – he also added: Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 22 2024 18:51 utc | 35 Sticker@1753 Dec 22 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 22 2024 18:56 utc | 37 A roundup from here and there, some probably on last thread already: Posted by: Ornot | Dec 22 2024 18:57 utc | 38 From President Putin’s marathon press conference this week Posted by: HughG | Dec 22 2024 19:41 utc | 39 The Transitional Council of Yemen (STC), an organization that is at war with the Houthis, that it was time to give the Houthis a slap in the face. Posted by: HughG | Dec 22 2024 19:43 utc | 40 Anyone see the hypocrisy here. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 22 2024 19:45 utc | 41 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 22 2024 18:56 utc | 37 Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 19:48 utc | 42 I am surprised that none of you knew about this. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 22 2024 19:49 utc | 43 Are ordinary Hezbollah rank and file accepting their orders to stand down and cooperate with the “ceasefire”? Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 22 2024 19:51 utc | 44 “Pope Francis says the killing of Palestinian children by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip is “cruelty, not war.” Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 19:56 utc | 46 41 – On December 19 I went to the London court hearing for Tony Greenstein, who is charged with supporting Hamas. Greenstein is a veteran anti-Zionist campaigner. He suspected nobody would be prosecuted for supporting HTS, but it is still formally classified as a terrorist organisation. Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 22 2024 20:02 utc | 47 Are ordinary Hezbollah rank and file accepting their orders to stand down and cooperate with the “ceasefire”? Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 20:10 utc | 48 Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 19:56 utc | 46 Posted by: Ed | Dec 22 2024 20:17 utc | 49 I’m hoping Francis will issue a Papal Bull calling all the faithful for a crusade against the Jews befouling the holyland. Posted by: Chas | Dec 22 2024 20:26 utc | 50
Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 20:10 utc | 48 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 22 2024 20:29 utc | 51 … it was thought that there was no need to have them destroy Lebanon too. Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 20:40 utc | 52 But, the reality is IZ thinks Lebanon isn’t going anywhere. They can crush it and annex its land later. Meanwhile, they’re still reducing homes and villages to rubble there. But mostly it’s party time in Syria and IZ has FOMO. Posted by: Sticker | Dec 22 2024 20:46 utc | 53 I have a request to the word Smiths’ onboard the Alabama moonship. Posted by: Ronnie James | Dec 22 2024 20:48 utc | 54 HughG | Dec 22 2024 19:41 utc | 39 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Dec 22 2024 21:21 utc | 55 @Ronnie James | Dec 22 2024 20:48 utc | 54 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 22 2024 21:23 utc | 56 Posted by: HughG | Dec 22 2024 19:41 utc | 39 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 22 2024 21:43 utc | 57 from Caitlan J. Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 22 2024 22:14 utc | 58 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 22 2024 13:39 utc | 2 Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Dec 22 2024 22:36 utc | 59 ery interesting analysis of how Russia handles the situation in Syria is given by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR Posted by: JB_2 | Dec 22 2024 22:49 utc | 60 Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 22 2024 15:56 utc | 8 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 22:57 utc | 61 It would not surprise me if the usual suspects were fomenting a coup in Iran. It would seem there is an internal struggle between the ‘Atlanticists’ and the theocracy / IRGC. I maintain that to maintain its effective safety net Iran should have acted immediately and decisively to protect the Lebanon / Hezbollah. Now Hezbollah has been seriously diminished in power. Iran may be still powerful but it is now far more vulnerable. China kind of chickened out. All those ‘optics’ joint exercises with masses of warships alongside Russia and Iran amounted to jack shit. I know i know ‘long game’ yada yada. The only country worth its salt, that walks the walk, Russia. Although it must be said, historically the Brits can be a fairly prickly resilient lot. The Turks too. Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Dec 22 2024 22:57 utc | 62 Alex Christophorou on his daily report claims the ‘friendly fire’ F-18 incident involved a US guided missile. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 22 2024 23:49 utc | 63 Posted by: Ronnie James | Dec 22 2024 20:48 utc | 54
I’ve finally found a use for ChatGPT. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 23 2024 0:27 utc | 64 So here’s to clarity over guise, Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 23 2024 0:29 utc | 65 @65 Posted by: Ronnie James | Dec 23 2024 0:50 utc | 66 My prayer are with Yemen and their brave warriors. Those guys have very large testicles, probably the biggest on the planet to stand up to the biggest bully around. Bullys balls shrinking with every slap they get by the brave warriors of Yemen. 😀 Posted by: Jzo | Dec 23 2024 0:51 utc | 67 One thing is for certain; there will be no ceasefire by Christmas. The Zionists can’t pass up an opportunity to bomb a few Christian churchs with worshippers inside on Christmas. Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Dec 23 2024 1:03 utc | 69 55 S.P. Korolev — “Putin’s comments on Iranian ‘cowardice’ were pretty extraordinary…The establishment of a unified command under Russian supervision similar to that provided by NATO in the early years of the Syrian dirty war, and the provision of air cover for PMF and/or Iranian reinforcements against US/Turkish/Israeli air strikes should have been enough to preserve the Syrian state.There were significant risks with such a commitment from Russia, which appeared instead to defer to Turkey and allow the PMF reinforcements to be destroyed by A-10s and the SAA command to disintegrate. We can argue about the relative risk and rewards of paths taken or not taken, but we shouldn’t speak of cowardice at the level of the soldiers on the ground, especially from the top military/political leadership where the buck stops.” FYI: Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 1:26 utc | 71 64 Arch Bungle. Not so bad although a little wordy. Just rewrite the last verse, then get a bluegrass band backup. Sort of like “The Wreck of the Old ’97.” RE: “Hopefully before US can orchestrate something on Iran. (post Aobh 62)?” Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 1:43 utc | 73 I think most people miss the reality about US “diplomacy”. In general, the US does not and cannot do major diplomacy. This is why Blinken jets around the world, accomplishing nothing and looking persistently depressed. The US wants to bark orders to subservient nations, not make equitable deals. Trump must be made to look bad and Neo Cons have free access to the media to plant stories about “intelligence sources” who say he’s a traitor or under foreign influence. It’s a sort of lower level false flag. Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 23 2024 1:48 utc | 74 RE: Ansar Allah spokesman video statement, translated to English Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 1:52 utc | 75
Bergoglio speaks for an institution that does not exactly have clean hands. Putting aside the fact that the institution for which he speaks almost invariably sides with reaction and imperialism, he wouldn’t want to give the Zionists the chance to start crying ‘antisemitism’ and using the Church’s historical role in the persecution of European Jewry against him. Posted by: Lengai | Dec 23 2024 2:25 utc | 76 “Why I think Basher Al Assad never left Syria alive”…. Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 2:39 utc | 77
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 23 2024 3:08 utc | 78 Clarification of Lavieja 70. Re: “What happened? All that American monopoly money ran out?” Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 3:46 utc | 80 Re: Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 23 2024 3:09 utc | 79 Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 23 2024 4:06 utc | 82 74 Eighthman– If US and Russia do get together, likely it will be more collusion than diplomacy, imo. Eighthman 74 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 23 2024 4:54 utc | 84 85 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 23 2024 5:04 utc | 85 86 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 23 2024 5:27 utc | 86 The Trump Connection: Why is the PA Attacking Jenin? Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 23 2024 5:31 utc | 87 Syriana Analysis with Kevork Almassian Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 23 2024 5:40 utc | 89 The amerikan shooting down of themselves off of Yemen was out on indie news yesterday. I saw it a few places including The Cradle and al Manar. Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 23 2024 6:04 utc | 90 How Israeli Soldiers ‘Fight Terrorism’ Inside Hospitals in Gaza Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 23 2024 6:11 utc | 91 @ Debsisdead | Dec 23 2024 6:04 utc | 91 with The Cradle link about the supposed friendly fire incident off Yemen…thx
I hope we hear more about this navy pratfall or whatever. Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 23 2024 6:32 utc | 92 “I hope we hear more about this navy pratfall or whatever.” Posted by: Not Ewe | Dec 23 2024 6:38 utc | 93 Last night on the main German news Channel there was a brief mention of the White Helmets in Syria. Looks like they are pulling all their propaganda tools out of the box, even the discredited ones … Posted by: Judge Barbier | Dec 23 2024 7:04 utc | 94 @Lavieja | Dec 23 2024 3:09 utc | 79 Posted by: gT | Dec 23 2024 7:10 utc | 95 They say, on October 07, 2023. there were about 2 mil. Palestinians in Gaza. Posted by: vargas | Dec 23 2024 8:15 utc | 96 Posted by: vargas | Dec 23 2024 8:15 utc | 101 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 23 2024 8:22 utc | 97 Yo Ho Ho HasbaRats. Howsithangin? Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 23 2024 8:24 utc | 98 https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1870947012658799074 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 23 2024 8:32 utc | 99 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 23 2024 8:32 utc | 104 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 23 2024 8:43 utc | 100 |
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