CrossTalk: ‘Moderate Terrorists’
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/609108-syria-regime-change-terrorists/
“A terrorist state is in the making in the center of the Middle East. And it is by design. Indeed, Assad is gone, but so is Syria. Forced regime-change has brought about state failure. And we all know who the obvious winners and losers are.
CrossTalking with Mohammed Marandi, Leila Hatoun and Elijah Magnier.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 12 2024 15:37 utc | 4

They are really doing their best to make the HTS headchoppers look like a good alternative to Assad and that their take-over is for the best.
Not only did they ‘find’ a basement with captagon pills but CNN managed to ‘discover’ a forgotten prisoner.
This video was undoubtebly made by the same geniuses that filmed the poison gas zombie ‘victims’.
We are supposed to believe he didn’t have water “for at least 4 days”, zero signs of severe dehydration.
Also a crappy attempt at shaking (only then and only one hand) when they film him eating.
Who knows, maybe they’ll discover some babies personally thrown out of their incubators by Assad himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUzruGhBVpI

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Dec 12 2024 15:48 utc | 6

@Posted by: Ludovic | Dec 12 2024 15:49 utc | 7
Hamas is Sunni.

Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2024 16:01 utc | 8

krainer’s idea of syria as a boondoggle trap for us/israel makes some sense; but it is a copey argument; i mean to give up a country? agreed to by all 4 main parties, russ, turk, syria, iran? i think it is a bit of a stretch, even though I like the strategic thinking behind it. but objectively? meh.
any thoughts on the viability of this idea?
are israel and us caught in some jihadi trap that will attrit them into collapse?
20 years of coin along the durand in afpak didnt collapse the empire, but it did weaken it significantly both via massive monetary and political corruption and via exposure of its true face (reputational/marketing bud light damage).
Geography matters. and why cant syria and lebanon have air defense systems? like buy some, get a loan to get some, beg borrow steal to get some, I mean, it doesnt need to be a patriot or s400, i can go on the corner and buy a manpads, youre telling me lebanon and syria and whoever else cant go out and buy a couple of dozen stingers or russ manpads and ammo for them?
beggars belief. and what happenned to hezbollahs secret weapons, what happened to advanced 100 thousand missiles and rockets, what happened to thier ship sinkers? im on the side of the resistance, but bullshit is bullshit, was it all pr and marketing hype?
hyper-reality can seem more real than the real thing.

Posted by: ganon | Dec 12 2024 16:04 utc | 10

There is a new program on Netflix.
It is about the Black Market for body parts.
The Psychopathic Entity is probably saturating the market with Palestinian parts.
Does anyone question that?

Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2024 16:10 utc | 12

Jack M@1356 Dec 12
Thanks for the astute close inspection.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2024 16:37 utc | 14

People should stop commenting about Palestinians celebrating the fall of Asad. They r the ones going through a genocide. If they feel this is worth celebrating then so be it

Posted by: A.z | Dec 12 2024 16:44 utc | 16

‘”We will design and make for them a form of Islam that suits us, and will push them to go in revolutions, which will lead them to deadly confrontations and disintegration, after which we move to win.”
Former CIA Chairman James Wooley -2006’
Perhaps someone should be distributing this quote to the entire Middle East so they know whom started instigated much of the chaos and in-fighting there. Can’t have them fighting a common enemy if they’re too dumb and stupid to see how played they are.

Posted by: anon | Dec 12 2024 16:54 utc | 18

When do these rebels get mad at Israel as they take more and more of Syria?
Posted by: anon | Dec 12 2024 16:53 utc | 17
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Even if “Israelis” haven’t infiltrated their number, “Israeli” shekels certainly have.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 12 2024 17:00 utc | 20

Re: anon | Dec 12 2024 16:53 utc | 17, “that Israel is can just waltz into Syria and annex land … mindboggling”
I just wonder how Israel/USA keeps on getting away with the stuff they do.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Dec 12 2024 17:29 utc | 22

There is a new program on Netflix.
It is about the Black Market for body parts.
The Psychopathic Entity is probably saturating the market with Palestinian parts.
Does anyone question that?
Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2024 16:10 utc | 12
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Irony alert LOL. Slightly OT, but…
Recent research shows that the heart has what the researchers call a “brain.” I.e., a local command center that signals the heart on pulse rate, rhythm, etc. And which possibly keeps records (data/memory) on that particular heart’s history.
Some organ recipients report they experience personality and language skill changes, as well as memories and preferences, from the donor.
Imagine if those experiences do turn out to be biologically based?
IZ may be creating Palestinians or Palestinian sympathizers all over the world.

Posted by: Sticker | Dec 12 2024 17:45 utc | 24

@16
“People should stop commenting about Palestinians celebrating the fall of Asad. They r the ones going through a genocide. If they feel this is worth celebrating then so be it.”
If we cannot be critical then we probably aren’t thinking or being realistic.
Syria was quiet these years but was acting as supply and base for Shia (and Russian) activity. Russia not against “Israel” or as last line of defense, Iran and related active against “Israel”.
That a Sunni takeover occurs is a parallel reality, and whether Turkish, fundamentalist, US controlled or part of a wider Sunni Arab arrangement is yet another.
The Sunni states are working with, or at least under control of, the US and “Israel”. This much is obvious.
Palestinians are largely Sunni, Hamas and related also.
So here is an unkind cynical view, a theory, for you:
Hamas was setup to initiate the uprising to bring Hezballah and Syria and Iran into conflict with “Israel” so that those could be confronted and defeated and a (disarmed) Sunni state working with other Sunni Arab countries created, so that Hezballah was disarmed and Lebanon moved into a political scenario dominated by western input.
This does not degrade Sinwar or Hamas, Nazrallah or Hezballah, because we know their beliefs and aims were true.
Now what would occur according to this view ?
Hamas will accept a ceasefire and Gaza and West Bank will be taken over by Fatah or “Israel” . This would be coerced by Sunni states working with US et al so that a political negotiation for ownership of Syria goes ahead in a quiet ‘happy setting’ , as opposed to a possible Turkish gift/invasion or a US “Israeli” shooting ground to quell a new civil war/extremism etc. , because Sunni cannot negotiate while their fellows are being slaughtered.
“Israel” will walk away with new territory and a bunch of leaders to be blamed, which will keep the western public entertained for years to come.
You just have to be this kind of cynical to understand how power politics works.
It is now the west that will re-arm Syria, once an agreed or favoured politi are installed.
As to whether Syria should be Sunni or secular or what, you have 1300 years of history to read through, so as to reach no conclusion.
Here, we just try to keep the picture centered I think, pull down the lies, flag exagerration, look for the views of those ignored, and similar.
It does rely on relatively constructive or sincere freedom of speech and thought, however.
Just as Palestinians will appreciate having their own viewpoints or feelings shared, whatever those would be.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 12 2024 17:52 utc | 26

Thank you mjh ( Dec 12 2024 14:06 utc | 2 ) for the link to that video.
Highly recommended, in particular for Vanessa Beeley but watch it all, and especially for anyone who may in any way be or have been tempted or swayed by any of all the MSM narratives and lies.
I have the impression that many who have posted at MoA this last week or two need to watch it in order to consider and think about what is being told and to (re-)connect with reality.
… and if Vanessa Beeley is right (she most likely is —listen carefully to what is being said) she will have to continue to move 🙁
(Maybe I’m being “effeminate” (people would lol if they knew me despite, or perhaps because of, my long greying ponytail) but beyond all the ongoing human horrors in Syria and elsewhere I hope the dogs she had to leave behind are doing fine. They likely saved her life).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 12 2024 18:07 utc | 28

I just wonder how Israel/USA keeps on getting away with the stuff they do.
Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Dec 12 2024 17:29 utc | 22
There’s nothing you can’t accomplish with enough guns and fiat currency.
In fact, the fiat currency is all you need.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 18:28 utc | 30

The lie and the coverup today: https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-brave/the-time-the-sas-defied-orders-to-rescue-two-of-their-own-in-iraq/
[There is no mention that Campbell and Griffith had explosives and were captured near a Mosque that had been bombed. They were creating chaos between Sunnie and Shia Muslims. There were numerous reports at the time. I kept hard copies, but most references disappeared from the Google search engine.] Ed.
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The truth was denied at the time: Conspiracy theories, always rife in Iraq, have been fuelled dramatically by last week’s events, according to Mazin Younis of the Iraqi League, an alliance of Iraqi exiles based in Britain. He has close contacts with Basra. “Everyone you talk to [thinks the two undercover men] were up to something very bad… to kill somebody or destroy a building, and let us battle against each other,” he said.
“Being in civilian clothing, wearing Arab clothes, made them look like spies. In Iraq, when you mention the word spy, people really get agitated. Even under Saddam Hussein, people were patriotic; they didn’t like foreign spies in their country. So this image is very much of clandestine and secretive action.”
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/middle-east/so-what-were-two-undercover-british-soldiers-up-to-in-basra-5348057.html
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Again, it’s not just the BBC. In its coverage of recent events in Basra, The Observer, a venerable liberal weekly, referred to “the kidnapping of two British SAS troopers”. Surely, that should read “the arrest by Iraqi police of two British troopers disguised as Arabs and in possession of an arsenal of high-powered weapons and sophisticated surveillance equipment.” The British army’s response to the detention of these two men, whose mission remains, at the moment, unexplained, was to attack and destroy an Iraqi police compound with tanks, armored vehicles, and helicopters. Civilians then surrounded the British and hurled petrol bombs at them. The British replied with fire, killing an unknown number of “rioters.”
https://www.counterpunch.org/2005/09/26/those-pesky-quot-urban-intellectuals-quot/
————————————————————————
The tactics used in Syria today are tried and true tactics used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 12 2024 18:33 utc | 32

Col Douglas Macregor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAZElAXfLwI
“Syria – a looming crisis awaits.”
Pepe Escobar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THOChcMt0SA
“Syria in ultimate chaos.”
Death of a Nation: Black Flags, Massacres, Land Grabs as Vultures Feed on the Carcass of Syria
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/12/11/death-nation-black-flags-massacres-land-grabs-as-vultures-feed-on-carcass-syria/
“Black Flags have taken over Damascus. There are massacres all across the spectrum…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 12 2024 18:38 utc | 34

Ganon ( Dec 12 2024 16:04 utc | 10 ) I think the idea of a trap is nonsense.
Worse; if one were to take the idea to its minimum one would be hoping that all the involved invaders (Turkey, Israel, the US, Qatar etc.) are over-extending themselves.
But if that is or will happen then the consequences of it has to happen soon and even then so much damage has already been done that it would be a very Pyrrhic victory 🙁
If there is to be any silver lining to this disaster it will have to be something much larger and much more significant. I don’t see what that could be, nothing realistic.
Afghanistan? Water under the bridge, sunk costs, already paid for many times over by both US and global de facto inflation and impoverishment (including in “the west” if not more so relatively). In extremis they’ll just default, reshuffle the cards and deal them once again to those on the inside. And as people have pointed out this debacle has hit BRICS and China more than might be immediately apparent so the alternatives will be at least slightly slower and more limited now (it might be much worse).
And as can be seen reported further up this thread Hamas and other resistance groups are busy shitting on their own legs (or, to be more direct, slitting their own throats).
One can easily argue that parts of the resistance has been directly aiding the genocide through their recent actions.
Why they do not see this is beyond me. It’s not the first or only time.
Still, no one is perfect, one has to admit and live with that, it’s just that this so extremely far away from “perfect” 🙁
As for Hezbollah and their capabilities I don’t know what to think any more and that started with the bullshit “ceasefire”.
At the very least the port of Haifa should no longer exist, but that sentiment is over a year old on my part.
No, it looks like this is only going to get worse. Ansar Allah is trying their best but no one else is prepared to hit back hard or hard enough, not against genocide, not against the destruction of several nations (Lebanon and Syria, or the other way around, doesn’t matter which), not against anything at all it seems.
It’s easy to understand why people don’t want any of the above to be true. I don’t want it to be true either.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 12 2024 18:45 utc | 36

“Black Flags have taken over Damascus. There are massacres all across the spectrum…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 12 2024 18:38 utc | 34
That can’t be.
I’m told by Al-Jazeera that rainbows have broken out over Damascus and young people are flocking to clean up the streets and remove the rubble of the Assad regime:
https://youtu.be/pRMMe146Dn8?si=MoiKk6haxXtxcRCT

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 18:53 utc | 38

If the news is to be believed, the IDF has finally sunk out of the parts of Lebanon it occupied during the latest round of war.
Meditation:
Israel was able to destroy the Syrian military and occupy a large chunk of Syria in just a few days yet failed utterly to do the same in Lebanon in two months.
This is the difference in power between being protected by Hezbollah and being ‘protected’ by the Syrian Army.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 19:15 utc | 40

The P.A is looking a little shaky in the West Bank:
“Protesters called for an end to the Palestinian Authority government during the funeral of 19-year-old Palestinian Rahbi Shalabi, who was reportedly killed by gunfire from Palestinian security forces a day earlier in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin.
As a result of the incident, a member of the Palestinian National Security Service announced his resignation and disavowal of the Palestinian Authority’s security services, urging other members of the PA to follow suit.”
Hopefully some of that HTS headchopping zeal makes it to the West Bank and topples Abbas …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 19:23 utc | 42

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 19:15 utc | 40 “This is the difference in power between being protected by Hezbollah and being ‘protected’ by the Syrian Army.”
Part of the ceasefire agreement was for Israel to fall back as the Lebanese Armed Forces moved forward.

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 12 2024 19:26 utc | 44

American found in Damascus appears to have been released from Syrian prison

Travis Pete Timmerman, from Missouri, says he was imprisoned for seven months after travelling to Syria on a pilgrimage

A pilgrimage? Where to exactly? In a country to which the US is utterly antagonistic, still reeling from a brutal civil war?

An American citizen found in the suburbs of Damascus on Thursday says he was detained after crossing into the country by foot on a Christian pilgrimage seven months ago

Well you would, wouldn’t you, you know, sneak in by foot from Lebanon, when you’re on an honest-to-goodness pilgrimage.

In the video, Timmerman could be seen lying on a mattress under a blanket in what appeared to be a private house. A group of men in the video said he was being treated well and would be returned home safely.

Hmmm, I smell BS.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 12 2024 19:58 utc | 46

Nuttyahoo “trial” must not be going well.
So, he has a solution:
https://www.rt.com/news/609279-israel-iran-strikes-report/
12 Dec, 2024 19:39
HomeWorld News
“Israel preparing to strike Iranian nuclear sites – media”
“Events in Syria have created a window of opportunity, sources have told Times of Israel”
“The Israeli Air Force is carrying out preparations for “potential strikes” on Iranian nuclear facilities, military officials have told Times of Israel.
West Jerusalem believes that the surprise takeover of Syria by militant rebels has weakened Tehran’s position in the region, which could prompt Iran to speed up its atomic program, the outlet said”
Well, hopefully he follows through with his strike threats.
Maybe feeling super emboldened!

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2024 20:02 utc | 48

https://www.rt.com/news/609248-israel-strikes-hts-syria/
RT is shocked. Israel wrecks Syria and the “liberators” don’t care. Wow!

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2024 20:17 utc | 50

RT – “could prompt Iran to speed up its atomic program”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2024 20:02 utc | 48
If Iran does not already have nukes, domestic or acquired, they are fools.
North Korea shows exactly why anyone who wants to remain a sovereign state needs them. It is the only thing that will (likely) keep the Empire and its accomplices from attacking.
I am constantly amazed by the apparent “well, if we don’t antagonize the psychopathic monster too much, maybe it will leave us alone” that Iran and others seem to follow. Have they not been paying attention for the last 70+ years?
This fits – “Listen, and understand! That Terminator, Isreal is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop… ever, until you are dead!”

Posted by: saner | Dec 12 2024 20:24 utc | 52

52 – Kim Jong Un may look like a kimchi stall owner who needs to slim down, but he’s smart enough to know who he’s dealing with, just south of Panmunjom…

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 12 2024 20:31 utc | 54

If Iran does not already have nukes, domestic or acquired, they are fools.
North Korea shows exactly why anyone who wants to remain a sovereign state needs them. It is the only thing that will (likely) keep the Empire and its accomplices from attacking.
Posted by: saner | Dec 12 2024 20:24 utc | 52
East Asians are generally multiple IQ points above middle easterners.
Being unencumbered by the brainrot of Islam, Christianity and Judaism they generally have a more immediate grasp of reality.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 20:38 utc | 56

Posted by: Jack M | Dec 12 2024 13:56 utc | 1
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If you look closely here (close-up) the inscription on al-Golani’s green uniform says: ’emersongear’.
Emerson gear, according to their website, specializes in tactical gear and are located in Guangdong, China.

Posted by: AoT | Dec 12 2024 21:08 utc | 58

57 – They’ve been around for a long time. Basically the armed wing of PFLP. Overshadowed by Hamas in recent years.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 12 2024 21:23 utc | 60

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2024 19:36 utc | 45 “There was no ceasefire. There was no agreement.”
So when Qassem said in a speech on November 29, 2024: “resulted in a ceasefire agreement to end the aggression” he isn’t talking about a “ceasefire” or an “agreement”?
“We approved the agreement with our heads held high, reaffirming our right to defend our nation,” Qassem added.
Then in Qaassme’s speech on December 2, 2024 when he said “agreed to the ceasefire deal to end the aggression while God’s men were on the battlefield from a position of strength and glory.” It is not a ceasefire?
What is your translation of his two speeches?

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 12 2024 21:33 utc | 62

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/12/11/738936/United-Nations-resolution-end-Israel-genocide-war-Gaza
UN General Assembly overwhelmingly adopts resolution urging end to Israel’s genocide in Gaza
The United Nations General Assembly has overwhelmingly adopted a resolution calling for a long-overdue end to the Israeli regime’s October 2023-present war of genocide on the Gaza Strip.
A total of 158 countries voted in favor of the resolution on Wednesday. Nine struck it down, including the regime and the United States, Tel Aviv’s biggest ally, while 13 countries abstained.
The resolution urges “an immediate, unconditional, and permanent ceasefire” in Gaza, where the war, launched following a retaliatory operation staged by the coastal sliver’s resistance groups, has so far claimed the lives of at least 44,805 Palestinians, mostly women and children……
…..Dozens of representatives of UN member states addressed the assembly before the vote to offer their support to Palestinians.
“Gaza doesn’t exist anymore. It is destroyed,” said Slovenia’s Samuel Zbogar, adding, “History is the harshest critic of inaction.”
Algeria’s deputy UN ambassador Nacim Gaouaoui, also said, “The price of silence and failure in the face of the Palestinian tragedy is a very heavy price, and it will be heavier tomorrow.”
….A second resolution calling on the regime to respect the mandate of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA, and allow it to continue its operations across the Palestinian territories was also passed by a vote of 159-9 with 11 abstentions……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 12 2024 22:45 utc | 64

@62 Ed4
The ‘agreement’ has not been seen or elaborated on. The confusion is if the ‘agreement’ is with Lebanon, UN, or directly.
That is to say, there might not be a ceasefire agreement between Hezballah and “Israel”.
For example, it can be portrayed as Hezballah agreeing to a ceasefire with Lebanon so as to stop “Israel” bombing the north, while at the same time having defended southern Lebanon from invasion. Lebanon would in that case also have obtained a ceasefire compromise from “Israel”.
In that circumstance, there is no ceasefire agreement between Hezballah and “Israel”.
All for example.
The difference in interpretations possible by observers causes the opposing opinions.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 12 2024 23:00 utc | 66

@63 Paveway
It is better LD, Turk, Sunof or Giyane and co. answer that for you, if they choose to, because it is a Muslim affair. Some have noted the discrepancies you mention with dismay. Also various Palestinians have voiced their serious discontent at Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, MB, Turkey and so on.
Some will argue that Iran is supporting Palestinian resistance only as a means of achieving a victory against US or “Israel”, or to expand its own influence, including against Sunni. They would have Iran seen as impeding moderate settlement of Palestine.
Equally some Palestinians might accept or see a broader regional Sunni ’empire’ as able to eventually defeat “Israel”, might see Syria as part of that consolidation.
As stands Hamas did not expect to militarily conquer “Israel”, Sinwar said as much. The idea of Shia conquest of “Israel” and resolution into a Palestinian state from that also presents dificulties. Hamas are better understood as a local resistance force more than anything else, maybe.
Maybe the sectarian differences in the region would be settled without existing western interventions, or maybe they would still be warring. However it is clear that the west is emphasising , antagonising and using the differences to own ends, and so must take the relevant share of responsibility for that (as well as of seeing that Palestinians are returned their land/country)
But better others reply.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 12 2024 23:32 utc | 68

Secular Turks hated the fanatical Saudi illiterate fanatics. But we aren’t very useful to the Empire, because we do things like go to college, care for our families and be decent human beings. In other words as responsible citizens who care about the country. we are completly useless and even a threat to arms and drug dealers or the various criminal enterprises that run our world. That is why tyrannical goons like Erdogan are so cherished by the Zionists and our intelligence agencies and even Obama, called him his best friend in the Middle East.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 13 2024 0:12 utc | 70

Al Jazeera: The Stream
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/the-stream/2024/12/10/rethinking-the-un-reform-or-obsolescence
“We talk to the UN’s special rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories about the genocide in Gaza. Francesca Albanese provides insights…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 13 2024 0:40 utc | 72

Arch Bungle 56
‘Being unencumbered by the brainrot of Islam, Christianity and Judaism they generally have a more immediate grasp of reality.’
There was talk about the Intelligence of the heart. That Intelligence is what you are calling brainrot. The Holy scriptures are God’s manuals for the proper working of the heart.
The scriptures rot the Western ambition for wealth and power , are you opposing that? Was the answer Jesus AS gave to Talmudic Zionism’s opposition to Roman Imperialism to fight against Rome, or was it to practice Islamic worship, which at the time was Judaism?
Think not about why those people were crushed by a building. Think rather about whether on the Day ofcJudgement you have fulfilled your duty to worship your Creator.
The Scriptures given to Eesa AS have been removed by time, but they may have include Fighting in the cause of Allah as an Islamic duty, like Islam.
I think it’s worth considering that the Terrorist groups that have overtaken Syria may have been funded by Saudi Arabia, as a last ditch attempt to secure Saudi power in Damascus with Israel’s help where the US failed because of Russian power.
Until the dust settles , we are playing Blind Man’s Buff and pin the tail on the donkey. My understanding is that King Salman was told that Russian Nuclear power was an insuperable barrier to Saudi getting a toehold in Damascus.
Who paid for the upkeep of these Islamist militias for the last 10 years?
To me it could just as likely be a Saudi Coup as a Turkish/ USUKIS coup in Syria.
We don’t know.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 13 2024 1:07 utc | 74

Arch Bungle 56
I feel admit to experiencing brain rot by listening to Santa Claus playing Christmas Carols on a Saxophone on a visit yesterday to my 92 year old stepmum’s care home.
Do ends sometimes justify means?
We none of us know what the good or bad will emanate from this coup in Syria.
But my heart is happy with Assad being removed even though my mind is appalled.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 13 2024 1:23 utc | 76

The Guardian used to be somewhat different – in the 1981 TV series in Britain The History Manwhich mocks trendy left academics, the main character is seen reading it. But it’s no longer even trendy left.
Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 12 2024 23:33 utc | 69

Believe it or not, back in the day, John Pilger used to write for The Guardian. In 2023, they sacked their cartoonist Steve Bell for antisemitism, which tells you how far they have travelled.
Why anyone would refer to that rag as left leaning today is beyond me.

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 13 2024 1:30 utc | 78

but in the revamp of the Scott Trust (ostensibly the graun & co’s owners) the graun morphed into the most islamophobic pro-zionist media outlet in england, imo thanks to zionist input via the observer.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 12 2024 23:24 utc | 67

Thanks for the interesting bit of history – I didn’t know that The Observer was instrumental in transforming The Guardian into the rag that it is today.

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 13 2024 1:38 utc | 80

It is strange seeing pro-Palestinian Twitter accounts cheering for the “Syrian Revolution”.
The truth is, Assad was the only thing standing between Palestine and genocide.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 13 2024 1:47 utc | 82

@83 another typo:
The co-opting of Sunni Islam…

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 13 2024 2:03 utc | 84

@Sunny Runny Burger
agree w you. you notice how everytime the zato-yahoos agree to a “ceasefire” some shit happens, they agreed to a ceasefire and killed hamas in tehran, then said ok ceasfire and killed nassarallah, then ceasefire and HTS attacks, i mean gee, i aint no smarts, but you would think if my fat ass sitting safe and warm thousands of miles away can see this pattern, some “intelligence” service out there could see it too..

Posted by: ganon | Dec 13 2024 2:35 utc | 86

Posted by: Philly | Dec 13 2024 2:52 utc | 88
I change them, I am all over the place on Syria. Muslim Sunni intellectuals becoming optimistic on the elimination of Assad is throwing me off. So either they know something most don’t since they have direct contacts or they are all CIA plants, which seems a bit conspiratorial. Otherwise, I would just be repeating what Ritter, Morandi, Crooke, et al, have to say.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 13 2024 3:17 utc | 88

Christian Emergency Alliance
https://x.com/ChristianEmerg1/status/1866837587760992335
“Syria: Today churches in Syria were instructed not to hold Christmas celebrations, parades or even display St. Nicholas.
The situation for Syrian Christians is deteriorating rapidly.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 13 2024 3:45 utc | 90

Re: Turk 152 @ #94
I’ve found it useful. Also Al Jazeera, The Guardian, NYT, even CBC – one still finds bits of good stuff amidst the strychnine.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 13 2024 4:00 utc | 92

Israel Kills Only Orthopedic Doctor in Northern Gaza
https://x.com/SuppressedNews/status/1867161103458840881
“He was targeted by Israeli snipers who shot him, aiming at his head, resulting in his instant death while he was on his way to work at Al Awda Hospital in northern Gaza.
Dr Jouda’s son Majd was killed days earlier in an Israeli airstrike targeting their home.”
(expletive/curse deleted)

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 13 2024 4:09 utc | 94

I change them, I am all over the place on Syria. Muslim Sunni intellectuals becoming optimistic on the elimination of Assad is throwing me off. So either they know something most don’t since they have direct contacts or they are all CIA plants, which seems a bit conspiratorial. Otherwise, I would just be repeating what Ritter, Morandi, Crooke, et al, have to say.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 13 2024 3:17 utc | 91
I think this is why they applaud the fall of Assad:
Saudi Arabia delivers 4th installment of financial support to Palestine
All the parties that depend on the Gulfies will also think the fall of Assad is great.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 13 2024 4:20 utc | 96

Kevork Almassian: ‘The New Syria’
https://x.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/186729838170365547
“If some people thought they replaced an authoritarian regime with a civil, secular democracy – I think they are going to be very disappointed…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 13 2024 4:26 utc | 98

“**Of the 585,610 Palestine refugees registered with UNRWA in Syria, an estimated 438,000 remain in the country. The remainder have left Syria to Lebanon, Jordan or other countries” https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/syria

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 13 2024 4:40 utc | 100