Things are looking very dire for Syria.
It looks like this could turn into a race for territory like we saw in Northern Alep and in Deir Ezzor. I’m seeing maps with SDF around Deir Ezzor city and the Bukamal crossing. There are gas fields they will probably want to take before the US proxies in Al Tanf make a break north.
Maybe the NATO powers already had their Yalta moment and carved up the state? Green and Yellow. Or, as others have suggested, Syria turns into a remake of Libya with two main factions claiming sovereignty over Syria as a whole? They have had governments running and ready to make a stage entrance.
And as for red Syria, could it be relegated to a coastal enclave?

Posted by: robin | Dec 6 2024 18:47 utc | 204

Even AI…
Amnesty International Investigation Concludes Israel is Committing Genocide Against Palestinians
https://amnesty.ca/gazagenocide/
“The report, ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza’ documents how…Israel has unleashed hell and destruction on Palestinians in Gaza brazenly, continuously and with total impunity…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 6 2024 18:58 utc | 206

Turk 152
“Assuming the reports of a Syria collapse are correct, in the long term, this will be worse for the Palastinians than for the Syrians. The headchoppers are ZATO terrorist shock troopers, but Turkey is not a radical Islamist country. There are more alcohol shops next to our flat in Istanbul than my home is Seattle, its also far less boring than workaholic US. I think Turkey could provide the region more stability than Assad. Eventually, cooler heads will prevail and Turks will not allow fellow Muslims to be butchered, as long as they cooperate and don’t launch a terrorist activity, as the PKK did.”
I am not sure how much the crew overrunning Syria mirrors Turkey’s version of Islam as they seem to include Algerians, Tajiks, etc. That said, Syria has been in such dire shape due to sanctions and lack of natural resources that there is some chance life will not be that much worse under HTS, although I worry if they overtake Damascus and might butcher Alawites. I also agree that life will be worse for Palestinians and suspect Lebanon might be next on Israel’s menu with Hezbollah out of the way.

Posted by: schmoe | Dec 6 2024 19:14 utc | 208

Putin is losing everything he built up over his career – what a complete disaster! When will he be deposed?

Posted by: RIP | Dec 6 2024 19:20 utc | 210

Posted by: robin | Dec 6 2024 19:32 utc | 215
The head choppers are a means to an end for Turkey. The decision makers in the U.S. don’t see Muslims as humans because of their Zionism brainwashing. Zionists might influence Turkey, but there are far more anti-Zionist there than in the U.S. in which most people are Zionists but they are too dumb to know it.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 6 2024 19:44 utc | 212

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-erdogan-backs-rebel-offensive-syria
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan appeared to back a rebel offensive in Syria that has captured several major cities within a week, as indicated by a statement he made on Friday.
“Idlib, Hama, Homs, and of course, the ultimate target is Damascus. The opposition’s march continues,” he said. “Our hope is that this march in Syria proceeds without any accidents or troubles.”
What the f*** does that suppose to mean? March, accidents, troubles?

Posted by: JamesBond | Dec 6 2024 20:19 utc | 214

If the Syrian Army won’t fight no amount of air support is going to matter. Russia can and should do deep strikes on Idlib with as many FABs, Kinzhals, and Zircons they can afford, if for no other reason than to disrupt logistics and make Erdogan pay.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 20:22 utc | 216

latest news is that the terrorists are only 6km from Homes and are (that means the Terrorists closed almost 200km in less than 4 days, which means they are advancing without any opposition on the ground). Confirmed videos of Russia removing a S-400 missile system from Homes. Assad hasnt made any public appearances, which strongly suggests that the Syrian government hasnt decided on a plan for resistance and thus have nothing to go to the public with. CNN even gave a full interview with the Terrorist leader of HTS, proclaiming his loyalty to diversity, inclusion and equity and replacing the Assad government with a new government dominated by Western institutions (looks like the West has already decided to white wash their newest democratic savior). Russia might be willing to leave Syria and lose it’s major military base there rather than get involved in a protracted war in Syria, but I’m certain Iran wont be willing to allow the US terrorists destroy all of the Shia shrines and massacre the Shia population, so I think Iran will be willing to move 100,000s of troops into Syria.

Posted by: Kadath | Dec 6 2024 20:38 utc | 218

Pepe Escobar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5md0JsZQ
“How come Moscow and Tehran didn’t see this coming?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 6 2024 20:44 utc | 220

@218 JB
“March” is maybe closer to jihad, muslims here might elaborate. What is being said is that the invasion is by “faction” but not those destined to rule. In other words, the accepted aim is deposition (and whatever atrocity occurs presumably).
That would then leave a lot of vacuum in Syria.
…..
What I have noted, some not well referenced:
“Israel” says it will deny Iranian attempts at support of Syria (this has occurred previously, forcing flights to return etc.)
Says it will not let Syrian arms be taken by resistance.
Says it will continue bombing connections to Lebanon (roads etc.)
There is talk if its tanks crossing into Syria briefly.
There is a build up of its forces in Golan, some suggest there is to be a front opened there.
Some in Hezballah have said “Israel” has made gains in Lebanon that were not possible before ‘ceasefire’.
…..
In Gaza massacres continue.
In Lebanon raids on south by “Israel” continue.
I cannot do more than stand back from it all and observe what shape the wider conflict takes on.
Appreciate all that are chipping in here.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 6 2024 20:49 utc | 222

Trump’s so-called “Middle East advisor” Boulos – who has ties to Lebanon’s right-wing Chriistian factions – claims the current ceasefire agreement between Israel and Lebanon requires the complete disarmament of all militias and paramilitary groups in all of Lebanon (not just south of the Litani). This reading of the agreement is not shared by the Lebanese government, based on statements made at the time the agreement was announced.
Boulos also claims the “US led monitoring committee” – comprising US, France, Israel, and UNIFIL – would “oversee” implementation of the interpretation. In contrast, Lebanese officials have stressed the implementation (based on Lebanon’s interpretation of what they had negotiated) was entirely a sovereign matter for the Lebanese state and its armed forces, with the “monitoring committee” being an advisory group with no direct role.
The failure of the ceasefire, as predicted by many observers, is inevitable as it was rushed forward by the Biden admin and clearly the two sides have entirely different understandings of what was agreed. A very possible scenario then would see the insertion of US and French troops into southern Lebanon very quickly after Trump is sworn in, conceivably to enforce the preferred interpretation but also in support of a potential concurrent coup or power-grab by the preferred right-wing Christian factions.
Back to the future, back to the 1980s.
https://www.newarab.com/news/militias-must-disarm-all-lebanon-us-adviser-massad-boulos

Posted by: jayc | Dec 6 2024 20:51 utc | 224

Contrarian thought of the day:
Be careful with venomous snakes, they tend to bite whoever touches them.
Erdogan may sell out the HTS rebels tomorrow in Astana. He has his own goals, including seeing the SDF crushed as they are mortal enemies. If he can cut a deal with Assad, maybe get him to give up Aleppo in exchange for calling off the dogs, those rebels may be in for a nasty surprise. Russia could be useful as a hatchet man to take care of Idlib and bury the rent-a-mob for good.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 20:53 utc | 226

Posted by: Kadath | Dec 6 2024 20:38 utc | 222 “Iran will be willing to move 100,000s of troops into Syria.”
How are they going to get them there?

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 21:07 utc | 228

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 21:07 utc | 233
Yes, logistics, logistics, logistics, as I said.
Easier to get Iraqi militias into Syria as there is a direct border. And the SDF and Americans are soft, Iran could assist by taking out all US bases in E. Syria with a massive ballistic missile strike.
Where there is a will there is a way, but I suspect Iran lacks the will to commit to what it would take. Probably don’t need 100k, 10k really well-trained soldiers could make the difference because at the end of the day, these are rent-a-mobs in technical Toyotas, not the 181st Airborne division.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:15 utc | 230

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:15 utc | 235 “the SDF and Americans are soft, Iran could assist by taking out all US bases in E. Syria with a massive ballistic missile strike.”
What do you think the US would do in response? First Biden and then Trump in January?

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 21:19 utc | 232

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 21:19 utc | 237
Biden would shit his pants, and hand everything to the Joint Chiefs of Staffs. The Joint Chief of Staffs would meet, and take about 36-48 hours to come up with a response. They’d hit back at Iran hard, but it would be more “shock and awe” nonsense meant to look good on CNN. Meanwhile, those 10k troops would already be in Damascus.
Trump can’t and won’t do shit because he’s not President. But even if he were, he’d do the same thing as Biden. Jan 20 is too late to save the situation in Syria unless we see a dramatic reversal in the next 24-48 hours.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:23 utc | 234

Remember too, there is no aircraft carrier positioned in the Gulf because the Houthis rock. A quick strike by Iran to destroy the SDF and US bases would probably work. Israel could try to get in the game, with F35s, but Iran can send jets too. Russia could play spoiler by using S-400s in Syria to shoot down Israeli jets. There would be losses, but those ground forces would largely survive intact IF they have support from Iranian top level generals.
Given what a weak POS the President of Iran is I don’t expect this scenario. But it is a possibility and could really kickoff WWIII this weekend.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:27 utc | 236

It sure sounds like weak sauce there from Iran/Iraq. Iraq is understandable – a weak government still trying to get out from under the boot of the US.
But Iran is a real disappointment. As I wrote, they seem to lack the will to do anything. The Ayatollahs need to get rid of that quisling President. Or the Generals in the Iranian Army need to take matters into their own hands.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:39 utc | 238

Tomorrow is December 7th, the 82nd anniversary of Pearl Harbor.
Maybe history rhymes.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:42 utc | 240

@243,
I agree, a very weak statement and it puts Iran in very ugly situation. While I agree that their president is a weak moron and it showed at every single encounter, I can’t put this squarely on Iranians. Sadly, the other Sunni Muslim countries are against them and while China was able to get a peace deal between Saudis and them, that doesn’t mean that these Sunni fiefdoms have any love for Shias and they showed it once again. Frankly these Sunni people are morons because they only see through their thick religions beliefs so divide and conquer works like a charm on them.
Iran should strengthen their support at home and build deterrence weapons before they are the next target.

Posted by: JamesBond | Dec 6 2024 21:46 utc | 242

I suggest everyone read this, especially all those who are so certain that the Syrian Army ‘will not fight’ and who have already decided it is over for Syria and the Middle East.
The figh has just begun. All those who are not paid to spread the – Syria is over – message would do best to follow the proven reliable sources, the few that there are, and leave the propaganda to the addicted.
Erdogan’s Idlib shock shadows “Kursk”
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/12/06/erdogan-idlib-shock-shadows-kursk/

Posted by: JB | Dec 6 2024 21:54 utc | 244

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 6 2024 21:39 utc | 243 “The Ayatollahs need to get rid of that quisling President”
“The president’s official powers are largely confined to domestic issues, with the supreme leader maintaining control over key foreign policy decisions.”

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 22:11 utc | 246

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 6 2024 22:11 utc | 250 “”The Syrian army has launched an offensive operation and is moving to advance in the northern suburbs of Homs.”
Any reports from people on the ground there to back up what the government is saying? Mostly I see reports saying people are feeling Homs, the rebels from the north are in the northern and western suburbs with some local rebel units in the city itself causing some chaos.
A number of reports saying in the south Darra has fallen.
Where is Assad? Has he been live on Syrian TV?

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 6 2024 22:25 utc | 248

Conceivably, trends continuing, by early in Trump’s term Syria will be controlled by Turkey while Israel will occupy southern Lebanon up to Litani. No immediate war on Iran, time spent consolidating gains which will include full annexation of Occupied Territories and start of the planned expulsions. Iraq will be destabilized. Death squads in Lebanon and Syria seeking identified Resistance members.
Would not be surprised if later revelations show the S Korean “coup” attempt was meant to create conditions for fighting against N Korea to keep China tied to its region. Russia will take Odessa by necessity.
The United Nations may not survive Trump’s term in its current form. Israel’s attack on occupied Gaza was also a deliberate attack on International law and the UN system, and has only lasted this long because of full US backing and – most crucially – the commitment by both to using extreme violence against defenceless populations including systemic attacks on health, education, and food infrastructures representing a deliberate repudiation of international humanitarian progress developed since the end of WW2. The latter point is the most shocking for persons of conscience in the west as there are no means apparent to reverse these decisions, which are far more encompassing and consequential than the relatively confined past operations in, say, Vietnam or Central America.

Posted by: jayc | Dec 6 2024 22:34 utc | 250

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1865119459934863464
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
⚡️🇸🇾 Russian Coordination Center in Syria:
The Syrian Arab Army, with the assistance of the Russian Air Force, eliminated 200 terrorists today during several operations targeting terrorist headquarters and gatherings in the countryside of Hama, Idlib and Aleppo
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1865129546690834672
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️⭕️ #Israeli i24News Channel:
Israel has informed #Iran that it will attack any attempt to send weapons or forces to #Syria
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1865064224390582545
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
Yes there are some naive people who think that American-backed insurgencies, regime-change wars and coups are about “democracy” and apple pie. But the think tankers, “journalists” and “experts” who back these schemes aren’t naive. They are imperialists.
https://x.com/MiddleEastIndex/status/1865072041746985223
Middle East Index @MiddleEastIndex
⚡️🇸🇾🇮🇱 NEW: FSA Commander:
We are open to friendship with everyone in the region – including Israel.
We don’t have enemies other than the Assad regime, Hezbollah & Iran. What Israel did against Hezbollah in Lebanon helped us a great deal. Now we are taking care of the rest.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 6 2024 22:37 utc | 252

There are no threats to the Russian PMTO in Tartus or the Khmeimim airbase. Moreover,I expect Tartus and Latakia are all that will remain under Assad’s control. The gloomy forecast made by Prigozhin in 2017 is coming true: if the militants push forward, Assad will only hold on to the coastal territory.

Posted by: HughG | Dec 6 2024 23:02 utc | 254

There are knowledgeable commentators, including Crooke, who are not adopting a “sky is falling” outlook, and anticipate a reversal of the current trends in Syria.
Previously, Hezbollah spokespersons were confident that their position in Lebanon would be maintained (and they presumedly gamed out the motivations and possible actions of Israel and US/France while arriving at this conclusion).

Posted by: jayc | Dec 6 2024 23:56 utc | 256

I’ve seen nothing here that celebrates the removal of Alawite shirk from Sunni Muslim Syria. Erdoğan himself and his Party come from the strongly Alawite South East of Turkey, and Germany ran the Syrian War from.Adana in the same region.
Syria being run by an Alawite is the equivalent of London being run by Nazi Druids from Stonehenge. The Alawites have no connection to Islam except for propaganda purposes. Their power derives from French Colonial history while France is currently Cruft’s most obedient US poodle, apart from Germany which is a K9 US robot.
Fuck Russia, which has continuously supported Israeli lies about Oct 7, and continuously refused to oppose US Neocon Nazi Genocide. In the absence of Russian support for Islam in Palestine why would Syrians defend Russian interests in Syria. Russia has prolonged the jackboot of the USUKIS stooge Assad.
Not that the future looks any better under Greater Israel , Al Qaida and USUKIS. It just looks from the outside that Russia has earned Brownie points from the Nazis in Jewsrael that if they lay off condemning the Nazi genocide in Palestine and Lebanon, then they will get to keep their Mediterranean port in Syria. It stinks to high hell.
The departure of Assad is long overdue.
It’s an ill wind that blows no benefit to mankind.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 7 2024 0:12 utc | 258

#203 re. persecution of Boston City Councilor Tania Fernandes Anderson
“From the diaries of Joseph Goebbels:
April 19, 1943
“The Jews in England now demand laws to protect them against anti-Semitism. We know those tactics from our own past when we were struggling for power. It didn’t help much. We were always able to find loopholes in the law. Besides, anti-Semitism cannot be eradicated by law once it has taken root with the people. A law against hating Jews is usually the beginning of the end for the Jews. (The Goebbels Diaries 1942-1943, p. 336)””
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t199294/

Posted by: Matt | Dec 7 2024 0:20 utc | 260

These people have children murdered so as to be able to take their land.
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/85881

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 7 2024 0:37 utc | 262

UPDATE; Three Iranian Officials have told the New York Times that they have begun the Evacuation of Senior Military Leaders and Personnel from #Syria , in anticipation of the Imminent Collapse of the Assad Regime.
https://x.com/Mitchal01/status/1865201701629599951
31 minutes ago: “Iran Begins to Evacuate Military Officials and Personnel From Syria” by the New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/world/middleeast/iran-syria-evacuation.html

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 7 2024 1:13 utc | 264

Eighthman 268
What’s hard to figure about Erdogan ?
He belongs to a Masonic Orrganisatikn that is intererested in Workd do nation, which uses loxal proxies to achieve
their foreign goals. In West Asia that proxy is Muslim Brotherhood. With Israel and USUK the MB created Oct 7 and its accompanying lies in order to justify genocide.
The genocide of Palestine and Lebanon is mostly accomplished so MB and Sooty,MB’s ventriloquist puppet want to see some quid pro quo for Oct 7. A lot of what’s happening is powerful 4 X4s and reputation of Islamist terror. Civilians
have been removed from cities on MB guarantees.
What is not to understand about a guy who has Britain’s fist up his cloth backside busy colonising West Asia in the name of a 15 millennia old fable about the Carnaanite cousins of Israel?

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 7 2024 1:26 utc | 266

China has no strategic interests in what happens in Syria, it’s Europe that is now so dependent upon Middle Eastern oil and gas. And Europe is slowly deteriorating into a non-entity, while the US wastes its time away from the main theatre of competition. Every year China gets stronger and the US gets weaker.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 6 2024 18:20 utc | 141
This was probably the general thinking of the Xianfeng emperor right before the Brits burned the old summer palace in Beijing.
The colonized always think events on the far side of the world are none of their business until it’s too late …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 1:57 utc | 268

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 7 2024 0:12 utc | 263
Most of the time you come across as an MI6 plant.
No wonder you hate Crooke so much …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 2:07 utc | 270

Most of the time you come across as an MI6 plant.
No wonder you hate Crooke so much …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 2:07 utc | 278

Is being unhinged enough to get one onto the payroll of the security services these days? Given the state of the world, it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s all they require of their recruits.

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 7 2024 2:29 utc | 272

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 7 2024 2:38 utc | 281
Terrorists, rebels, freedom fighters, it’s all in the name.

Posted by: naBisco | Dec 7 2024 2:44 utc | 274

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3a20MNFwOo&t=21s
I think Mahmood is credible and it doesn’t look good. This thing could be over in a couple weeks as he claims the SAA is defecting. So, what happens to Russian bases – and Hezbollah? The claim that rebels are moving up from the south (outta nowhere) is unexpected. The only redeeming feature is a very few Israeli military have doubts. It would be nice if that Ummah concept was real.

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 7 2024 2:59 utc | 276

My future condolences for the ‘unnecessary’ Russian Military lives that will be lost. Due to the incompetence of the Syrian government.

Posted by: Mr. T | Dec 7 2024 3:11 utc | 278

RE: “Chaos is a ladder.
We’ll just have to see who climbs out of this mess.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 3:12 utc | 287
Well put. That ladder is getting pretty crowded.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 7 2024 3:24 utc | 280

Just so much bizarre hopium and copium and fantastical ideas from westerners that have nothing to do with realities on the ground.

Posted by: naBisco | Dec 7 2024 4:02 utc | 282

DH: Ghadi Francis & Kevork Almassian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zVPgTGHXg8
“Hezbollah destroys IDF & Syria on red alert.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 7 2024 4:25 utc | 284

Arch,
You gotta take up the Merkava daily Tally. I am too mentally beat from the Genocide. It’s important work, but I need a break. Please continue. Thank you.
Last tally –
Tally as of Thursday night
local time
272 destroyed (unchanged)
709 approximate damaged (unchanged)

Posted by: Exile | Dec 7 2024 5:56 utc | 286

What are the chances of an anti-imperial resistance movement on the level of Hezbollah arising from the ruins of Syria?
That is after all what happened in Lebanon.
Would Iran be able to play midwife to such a new movement as it did to Hezbollah?
I don’t see that they have much of a choice …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 6:31 utc | 288

“Most of the time you come across as an MI6 plant.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 7 2024 2:07 utc | 278
Every time I accidentally read the posts from that person it makes me hate what he pretends to support.
Posted by: naBisco | Dec 7 2024 2:23 utc | 277
––––––––
Seconded. He is a liar too.
“Erdoğan himself and his Party come from the strongly Alawite South East of Turkey” – Giyane | Dec 7 2024 0:12 utc | 263
Absolute and ridiculous fabrication.

Posted by: burak | Dec 7 2024 7:29 utc | 290

Turks havecas much right to live in Turkey as Khazars in Palestine. In fact they tell the same lies about the Kurds as Zionist Khazars like Netanyahu say about Palestinians, that they are nomads. The Turks and the Khazars are cousins, according to Sultan Erdogan, so it must be true. Sarc warning.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 7 2024 8:06 utc | 292

There do seem to be some new alignments appearing.
There must have been an arrangement between SDF (the Kurds) and The Syrian Government about control of Al Bukamal and up along the Euphrates (Deir Azor etc). The SAA withdrew peacefulls. ie calmly. Even the public utterences have changed. It is no longer a “regime” for the SDF, but “The government”, and it is no longer “Assads” forces. Some sort of “trading” (Oil and wheat) actually could be beneficial to both sides.
I reckon that if this continues, and the claims by Erdogan are correct, then we are seeing the proof of a Turkish/Sunni religious/Islamist attack to further his ambitions. The Kurds (YPG) will be considered on the opposite side.
Several Christian and Alawite groups have gone “missing” so summary executions should not be ruled out. Apparently the Turks/terrorists have lists of those to be eliminated. (Needs some sort of confirmation)
I am not sure where the US would figure in any new arrangement.
The “uprising” next to The Golan heights and the withdrawal of the SAA from Suweida etc, is going to prompt Zionist military expansion into Syrian territory, isn’t it? Netanyahu needs a new front to save himself.

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 7 2024 9:19 utc | 294

“I’ve seen nothing here that celebrates the removal of Alawite shirk from Sunni Muslim Syria.”
—
Salaam to all.
Shirk is associating partners with God. Now there are obvious cases where someone openly declares polytheist beliefs. However the more subtle and prevalent manifestation of shirk is when uppity hairy bipeds decide to overstep the limits and take it unto themselves to play the role of The Supreme Judge.
Judgement belongs to God alone and only God knows the secrets of the hearts [Q 57.6] – we have been warned already.
As to those who insist on calling themselves as qualified and hyphenated “Muslim”, again you are reminded that the religion is Islam without qualification and without hyphenation and you are either a Muslim [Q 22.78] or something else. Choose.
اللَّهُ يَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ فِيمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
Allah will judge between you on the Day of Resurrection concerning that about which you used to differ.
[Al-Hajj Q 22:69]
So Giyane, setting yourself up as the all knowing God and passing judgement on fellow Muslims, that is the very definition of shirk.
wa Salaam.

Posted by: sunof27 | Dec 7 2024 10:21 utc | 296

burak 299
No , sir, Erdogan is Western, Muslim Brotherhood Freemason . We can now understand why at Oct 7 there were rumours that Ichwan, Arabic for Brotherhood were claiming that their power would soon rise above the Power of Saudi Arabia, because Qatar was in on the deal with USUKIS for Israel to massacre the Army Rave students by the Hannibal Doctrine.
Ichwan had already made the toxic deal to exchange the genocide of Palestine
and it’s Resistance supporters for USUKIS fundamentalist control of Syria and the distribution , at first , of Syria between Turkey’s deep state and Washington’s Pit Bulls in Tel Aviv.
Later , USUKIS will either crush Turkey or utilise Turkey on the USUKIS mission to the Pacific.
So the word for Erdoğan is not mujahid/ fundamentalist but qiyanat / betrayal for bartering Empire2 Ottoman ambitions for the USUKIS genocide in Sham/ Palestine and Syria.
I would give Erdogan about two weeks to live. Like his co- conspirators in USUKIS, he is finished. Last night I saw some Normal , neat, anal-retentive Ichwanis in the supermarket talking very anxiously. They have a lot to be anxious about because of Erdogan’s betrayal ofcl Palestine Lebanon and and Ichwan’s Masonic deal with USUKIS.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 7 2024 10:44 utc | 298

Salaam Giyane. I am simply a Muslim. As you may recall I had to lookup what is this Ahmadi business that you keep mentioning. Casting calumny is not a good look for a Muslim. I have given you sincere advice regarding the meaning of shirk. How you take it is your business of course but I will not tolerate your blindly labeling me as x y or z.
You claim to be an old man who is concerned with your giving account yet you are continually here on MoA spewing sectarian venom. Does not add up.
Is it possible that Arch Bungle has the right idea about you?
wa Salaam.

Posted by: sunof27 | Dec 7 2024 13:04 utc | 300