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December 1, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-289

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Mabe it’s because the conspiracy theories about Zionist Freemasons and Donmeh Young Turks coup of the Sultan in 1908 and their subsequent rulership of the country are in fact correct. (As discussed in my link in 28 above.). While it is clear, they are running the U.S. State Department, why is it absurd to think the same thing didn’t happen a 100 years ago? Nobody goes here because we have been programmed to think of the Armenian Genocide as instigated by a group of Turkish butchers, not Zionist butchers.
*Although some of these facts are verifiable, it is only a possible explanation that requires further exploration to be conclusive.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 2 2024 14:12 utc | 101

Addendum to 96. Laith Marouf believes that the war in West Asian will last longer than he originally thought. It is becoming a longer war of attrition which will eventually result in the termination of US and Western hegemony and the erasure of Israel.

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 14:31 utc | 102

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 14:31 utc | 102
I agree fully with that assessment.

There will be multiple wars each following on the heels of the other.

American hegemony will be ended as the West reorients to focus on China and Russia.
The Turks will attempt to re-establish the Ottoman Empire, by way of Syria and eventually by taking Palestine.

Turkey will enter into direct confrontation with Iran and Hezbollah.

The Gulf Dictatorships will fund armies of Takfiris who will sweep into Baghdad, Damascus and then into Palestine and attempt to dislodge the Houthi from Yemen.
And all through this the West will pour arms and mercenaries into Armageddon.

The Middle East will become a hellscape that no Jew will want to set foot in for the next two thousand years …

And the EU, like the vulture civilization it is will swoop in to pillage the gas, oil, sea routes around the Levant.

It’s going to get much, much worse before it ever gets better.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 14:44 utc | 103

Arch @ 103
It is going to get much more desperate before it stops. The ability of the West to fund any of this, the ability to find whack takfiris, the ability to find any but the dimmest of bulbs to manage the craziness, all that is going to wane. Can they make life nasty? Yes. Can they cause a whole lot of death? Yes. Can they accomplish anything but death? No.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 2 2024 15:49 utc | 104

to Gene Pool # 93. It’s the real Canuck. He/she/it will never pass an opportunity to say something rude to a fellow barfly. Must be something about his childhood.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Dec 2 2024 15:51 utc | 105

“Hezbollah said Monday it fired a warning strike in response to repeated “Israeli” violations of the ceasefire agreement that came into effect last Wednesday.
“The strike targeting the Roueisat Al-Alam military site in the occupied Lebanese hills of Kfar Shuba,” the statement by the Lebanese group said.”
— Roya News Channel (Jordan)
… Definitely not a one sided arrangement.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 15:56 utc | 106

Hezbollah has had enough of the Zionists attack – which are not meant to happen during a ceasefire.
“Hezbollah says it has targeted an Israeli military site in the occupied Kfar Shouba hills of southern Lebanon in response to the regime’s repeated violations of the ceasefire agreement in the Arab country.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 2 2024 16:03 utc | 107

RT: Beijing is willing to aid Damascus to prevent the situation from deteriorating further, Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin Jian has said.
we shall see….

Posted by: salmon | Dec 2 2024 16:17 utc | 108

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 2 2024 16:03 utc | 107
What it underscores is complete and utter failure of Israel’s _attempted_ invasion of South Lebanon.
The resistance retains complete ability to strike any location in Israel, military or otherwise, as before.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 16:19 utc | 109

Yes. Can they accomplish anything but death? No.
Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 2 2024 15:49 utc | 104
All you say is true.
The only tragedy is that the Imperial West will take so many innocents to the grave with it …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 16:22 utc | 110

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 14:31 utc | 102
Laith Marouf believes that the war in West Asian will last longer than he originally thought. It is becoming a longer war of attrition which will eventually result in the termination of US and Western hegemony and the erasure of Israel.

That’s awfully nice of Laith, but some of us were saying exactly that back on October 7th of last year.

Posted by: Gnome Sane | Dec 2 2024 17:06 utc | 111

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 2 2024 4:09 utc | 76
Most of what we see in geopolitics are the actions of traitors. They always claim to represent their people, but the most rudimentary analysis of who benefits reveals that the opposite is true.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 2 2024 17:26 utc | 112

Mabe it’s because the conspiracy theories about Zionist Freemasons and Donmeh Young Turks coup of the Sultan in 1908 and their subsequent rulership of the country are in fact correct. (As discussed in my link in 28 above.). While it is clear, they are running the U.S. State Department, why is it absurd to think the same thing didn’t happen a 100 years ago? Nobody goes here because we have been programmed to think of the Armenian Genocide as instigated by a group of Turkish butchers, not Zionist butchers.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 2 2024 14:12 utc | 101
I am with you 100% Turk. Erdogan and his oligarcks are in it on the NatoZion side
https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/conf-iclc/1990s/conf_feb_1994_brewda.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 2 2024 17:34 utc | 113

New Bernard Lewis plan will carve up the Mideast- Oct.30-1992
Lewis’s plan is modeled on the imperial methods of the
Roman Empire: Grant local autonomy to a myriad of squabbling and politically impotent ethnic enclaves over which Rome can wield its military strength without difficulty. The subjected enclaves have a long leash, as long as the tribute
is paid to Rome.
“Most of the states of the Middle East . . . are of recent and artificial construction and are vulnerable to such a process,” he analyzes. “If the centrallpower is sufficently weakened, there is no real civil society �o hold the polity together, no real sense of common national ;identity or overriding allegiance to the nation-state. The state then disintegrates-as happened in Lebanon-into a chabs of squabbling, feuding, fighting sects, tribes, regions and parties.”
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1992/eirv19n43-19921030/eirv19n43-19921030_026-new_bernard_lewis_plan_will_carv.pdf

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 2 2024 17:40 utc | 114

@Delhiliterally | Dec 1 2024 21:02 utc | 48
>>What are the odds that this was the result of a deal between Putin and the Netanyahu-Trump administration, in return for withdrawal from Ukraine?
I’ll leave the odds to the gambling types, but as for evidence: very thin. As others have also remarked, the commander of the Russian mission has been sacked. But was he asleep at the wheel, or is he being made a scapegoat after his warnings were ignored by Moscow? The mere fact that questions like yours are being asked shows many of us would like to know WTF is going on. A relevant voice surely is the pro-Turkish side, who watch the devastating results of Russian airstrikes online and comment “Russia is none too pleased.” Collapse your own Syria position now, on the ground, in exchange for vague promises in Ukraine later? Sounds like an awful deal–Putin might well go for it. 🙂 Even I can anticipate how SBU/MI6 can always stage another Bucha-type false flag as an excuse to abandon their side of the bargain. Putin whines “But … but … they tricked us”–and keeps coming back for more.
American takeover of East-of-Euphrates (you know, the part with the farmland and the oil) was so unopposed, so easy despite being forewarned, that I have always suspected a deal. Deal for what? Who knows, maybe just to avoid even worse humiliation. Rumors abound that Putin allowed high-ranking NATO officers a face-saving safe passage out of Azovstal–for sure, the Ukies were desperate to evacuate someone if they sacrificed ~five helicopters together with their elite pilots for this mission. Moscow was talking regularly how they were intercepting NATOese radio chatter from the Mariupol pocket; but once it was cleared, the whole topic went down the memory hole. But as soon as those bigwigs, which may or may not have included a Canadian general, are back home you’ve lost all your leverage, and created a precedent that the West pays no price for its covert involvement. As we speak, Moscow has foregone any retaliation for at least three volleys of NATO “deep strikes.” What did they get? Who knows, maybe a short pause; the Kremlin may calculate this was the path of least resistance to avoid political embarrassment. And so it goes.
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@abierno | Dec 1 2024 21:38 utc | 50
>>The Axis of Resistance now has a causus belli […] against the bases in Syria
How do you mean? The US and their hangers-on never gave themselves any fig leaf for invading Syria. They just did, taunting others “Whatcha gonna do about it?” Anyway Donald Trump is not a fig-leaf person, “taking the oil” is good enough for him. The occupation is the casus belli; but somehow Russia initially welcomed the US incursion, deluding themselves that those’d be the first steps towards an “anti-ISIS partnership.” So far, frankly speaking I think Turkey has pushed back the most against the US presence in Syria, when it brought SDF Kurds a bit too close to the Turkish border. The others have all been useless.
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@Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:02 utc | 67
>>A top Syrian opposition militiaman tells me the “political timing” is the key to this lightning advance. Some factors:
>>[…] Intense Israeli airstrikes on Iran backed militias in Syria
But but but … year in year out, The Saker was telling us that the Izzie airstrikes on Syria were just “cosmetic” (to Zionist eyes I guess), without military value? A sign of weakness really. So Russia was wise to look the other way. Couldn’t be that he was just shilling, right? I mean, he is an expert. 🙂
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@Lengai | Dec 1 2024 23:53 utc | 63
@Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 2 2024 0:07 utc | 64
>>One would hope the Iranian leadership […] wouldn’t be so stupid as to trust the incoming Trump administration
I think part of the problem faced by Pezeshkian is that he campaigned on engaging the West. Were he to admit that turns out to be impossible, how to answer the question what he’s still doing in office? Educated Iranians still seem to think/hope/self-delude that the civilization of Mozart and Aristoteles is lurking below the surface in the West, just waiting to be re-engaged — if not in the US then at least in Europe. Sadly, they are mistaken: at least among the political class, it is Zion all the way.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 17:41 utc | 115

I’m not one of the doomers; seems like the fight will go on. Not sure yet whether clearing Aleppo will be easier or harder than first time round–nor do I think that others know. But the coping of some is a sight to behold, as if getting kicked out of Aleppo is some kind of masterstroke. I think the issue was settled in Four Lions, when Omar explained that bombing the mosque in the name of Islam would be like punching your own face to win a fistfight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRx7ZqcKn0o

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 18:11 utc | 117

It only takes a spark to start a forest fire, yet it soon gets out of control.
NEW REPORT…..
Iraq troops have enterd Syria to help Assad govenment side of confict.
Thats yet one more Middle Eastern country to add to the long and ever growing list.
A full Middle Eastern war has been feared for years, nucular looking even more likely.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 18:17 utc | 118

Iran is out. Lebanon and Syria face the new realities. Lets say Aleppo is regained by Syria. Idlib will still be there. Turkiye will not give up Idlib.
The moderate president in Iran was elected as the will of the people. As Iran looks to its own interests of course lebanon and Syria do also. Rubble is not a good look.
Syria does not have the resources to adapt the techniques of war that have developed in Ukraine. Hizbollah can only do so much and their charter is now one of deescalation. All militaries exist as a function of a economy. Hizbollah exists as a function of Irans economy. Iran has told Hizbollah cool it.
Russia from the beginning was not willing to be brought into conflict with Israel by their support of Syria.
Irans descalatory actions in combination with Turkeys abandoning the agreement with Russia to stop its incursion into Syria via proxy forces are pivotal. The extent to which The Turkish proxys have adopted modern war techniques is unknown but they are using drones. The complex equation that is warfare outcome is unknown in Aleppo. Time will tell. How good are Turkiyes logistics? How much resources can Syria expend into adapting new warfare techniques?
As Kevork says strong economies mean strong militaries. Syrias economy has been non existent for the past decade.
World war 3 is postponed. The new status quo is undefined.
Turkiye was and is the strongest military in the region. Their facade of neutrality is abandoned. The Iranian people do not want to be destroyed by war.
Yes round two will come as a function of unfinished business. What it will look like is unknown. Realities are revealed. There is not a significant deterrent to the genocide. World war will not stop the genocide. Escalation will not stop the genocide. Deescalation will not stop the genocide.
In regard to Israel Russia was never in. Iran is out.
What will become of the region is a function of the Israeli people. It is in their hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAjKefPYKY

Posted by: Fred | Dec 2 2024 18:19 utc | 119

Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 9:45 utc | 83
*** What will the US Zionist Christians think when they learn their government pays for the suppression of the Christmas celebration ***
Same as the Zionists’ puppet arseholes in the USA or Europe thought a few years ago while US/Israel/UK run jihadists were doing their very best to exterminate the Christians in Syria …. the NATO “Christians” supported the extreme jihadists, while wanting to destroy the Hezbollah force in Syria who were protecting the Christians there.
And don’t forget mass-murderer (then prime minister of the UK) David Cameron’s so-called “moderate” jihadists in Syria, who didn’t behead their opponents — merely eating their livers instead.
Or the (now reportedly resurrected) UK created “White Helmet” lie machine getting enthusiastically promoted by UK mass-media.
As for Christmas celebrations, they have long been attacked by allegedly “liberal/leftist” wokists in the UK … suspect militant Jews, not “leftists” were the real organisers behind the scenes … it tended to be the Moslems and Hindus who denounced attempts to effectively ban Christmas, while most of the thoroughly perverted Church of England and similar Establishment organisations said bugger all.
Meanwhile, the Assad family they hate attended public carol services in Syria.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 2 2024 18:19 utc | 120

Fred 🤣 @ 119
Thats total miesinformation about Iran.
D
I dont beleave a word of it.
The first casulty of war is the truth.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 18:28 utc | 121

‘Canada Must List AnsarAllah (The Houthis) As A Terrorist Organization – B’nai Brith’
And so it was done.
Canada Lists Yemen’s Houthi Militant Group as Terrorist Entity
https://everythinggp.com/2024/12/02/canada-lists-yemens-houthi-militant-group-as-terrorist-entity/
“Canada has added Ansarallah, better known as the Houthi militant group, to its list of terrorist entities…”
While actual ‘terrorist entities’ are ‘allies’.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 18:37 utc | 122

@Jan Sobieski | Dec 2 2024 8:43 utc | 81
>>Indeed, why would Erdogan do something blatantly against the interests of his country?
>>It is natural to assume that he was somehow ‘incentivised’.
Not saying he acted alone, or that states like Russia can avoid Realpolitik when living close to Turkey. But I think Erdogan has too many figures covering for him already. Spreading Ottomanism by force is completely in-character for him, giving his record not only in Syria but also in Nagorno-Karabakh etc. While others were intoning “Muh reconciliation, slower is better”, he was waiting for opportunity to present itself, and for powerful playas backing him up. Why did anyone think takfiri combat power was preserved in Idlibstan–higher education? Kebab cuisine? A doubtless ugly job needed to be finished–but wasn’t. The Kremlin wanted a “long game”, and now they have it. 🙂
This will only be against Turkish interests as Erdogan sees them, when it precipitates most serious punishment. For example, when all this trash is sent running towards either Turkey or the EU. Given that Crocus City Hall in Moscow itself hasn’t been punished, I think we shouldn’t jump to conclusions in this regard. (Come to think of it, the Metrojet bombing over Sinai wasn’t punished either AFAIK, but what can one do if it wasn’t properly solved. Not saying one should just bomb random people US-style.)

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 18:39 utc | 123

Turkey is a powder keg waiting to go off.
NATO member. Massive army ectra. Drone tec.
Then their is outside influence and western self interest in stirring this hornets nest.
Disputes between Turkey and Russia would be a gift from heaven right now for the west.
Putin will know how critical this is on all Russian fronts.
I cant empathsise that enough.
Somethings afoot or bigger.
My moneys on a Russian win.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 18:52 utc | 124

Dr. John Eibner, President of Christian Solidarity International:
Statement on the Fall of Aleppo
https://www.csi-int.org/news/statement-on-the-fall-of-aleppo/

Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 2 2024 18:52 utc | 125

@Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 9:45 utc | 83
>>What will the US Zionist Christians think when they learn their government pays for the suppression of the Christmas celebration
Your question contains its own answer within it–“Zionist.” The Palestinian Christians can sink or swim too, it’s been like that for half a century already. Not circles I move in daily, but I think US-style Evangelicals etc give the game away when they exult “I embrace Jesus Christ as my personal savior.” Community, solidarity, etc were altogether too difficult concepts, so the whole thing was streamlined: you give money to muh Israel (with 10% for the big guy at the altar), you get your own ignorant ass in Heaven. After which, who cares?
(Sort of like some video-game franchises: the latest installment has a shinier package, yes–which incidentally ate up all the budget, so all the lore and gameplay get sanded down. Kids nowadays don’t have the attention span anyway.)
I know friendly, earnest people like that. Whatever you try to explain is really not going to change their minds. Had they been analytical types, they’d do something else with their free time than religion.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 19:08 utc | 126

If you believe in any God, now is the time to pray for Palestinians (Christian, Muslim, non-religious). Trump said there will be hell to pay if the ‘hostages’ Hamas took aren’t released.
https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-warns-hell-to-pay-if-gaza-hostages-not-freed-before-his-inauguration-2c3c22e9

“If the hostages are not released prior to January 20, 2025, the date that I proudly assume Office as President of the United States, there will be ALL HELL TO PAY in the Middle East, and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against Humanity,” he wrote on his Truth Social platform.

Posted by: bored | Dec 2 2024 19:20 utc | 127

@Menz | Dec 2 2024 11:53 utc | 92
>>Walt agrees with Chomsky […]
>>I wouldn’t have written that last sentence when I began my career 40 years ago.
Aren’t those last words giving the game away? Good Stephen is getting ready to retire, so now he can finally say the truth. Sort of like Jimmy Carter, who together with Zbig Brez and the Saudis authored global jihad, at a time when in communist Afghanistan girls attended free schools wearing anything they wanted–can’t have that of course. Then out of office he added “But I meant it really well.” Obama had the opposite trajectory, being against the wars only as long as he was an irrelevant IL state senator.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 19:25 utc | 128

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 19:08 utc | 126
Very much the theology of those little comics circulated by the late Jack Chick. There is typically a page for those who accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour, and some of his most evil cartoon characters who at the last minute intone some such sentiment go to heaven. Natch…
Yup. He was a Christian Zionist too. Died in 2016 but I think his comic book enterprise is continued by others…

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:31 utc | 129

Bored @ 127
The good news is that all those knuckle dragging ignorent trump supporters will die by the million on the hot burning sands of the Middle East at thier leaders command.
Good enough.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 19:32 utc | 130

A further comment on their mentality: ideas like community, solidarity etc. would not be welcome become they smack of “Gadless Cammunism” in such circles.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:33 utc | 131

Not “become” but “because”

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:34 utc | 132

Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 13:46 utc | 96
*** Mercouris postulates that Putin is very angry with Assad for allowing personal emotion — detestation of Erdowan — to get in the way of diplomacy in the form of at least talking to Turkey about the contested issues between the 2 states.***
IF that reckoning is correct, then it suggests Putin to be either a liberal Atlanticist quisling (not to mention other possible and extremely serious negatives as well), or a dangerously naive and self-deluding idiot.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 2 2024 19:36 utc | 133

@ Cynic | Dec 2 2024 19:36 utc | 133
Not necessarily; he often seems to be a proponent of “jaw jaw is better than war war”, much to the derision of the fifth-and sixth-columnists.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2024 19:42 utc | 134

For u$$a only borders set by Stalin are sacred.
Sunni head choppers are u$$a clients and can cross anywhere bc Erdogan is u$$a tool.

Posted by: paddy | Dec 2 2024 19:44 utc | 135

Cynic @ 133
Sounds like missinformation to me.
That’s what the west would want us to beleave,
I dont buy that.
More likely Vladimiri Putin will be angry with Erodigan, for falling into a western baited trap.
Vladimir Putin wont let his emotions rule his head.
The best leader this world has ever known.
Without Vladimir Putin this world would not be still here now.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 19:53 utc | 136

@ For u$$a only borders set by Stalin are sacred.
Posted by: paddy | Dec 2 2024 19:44 utc | 135
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Stalin awarded the Golan Heights to “Israel”?
Your formulation misses the mark somewhat: in actuality the USA recognizes borders only when convenient.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2024 19:54 utc | 137

133 – If Putin thinks like that, it is dangerously naive. Syrian-Turkish relations were rather good under Erdoğan until he decided that the “Arab Spring” tide was going to overwhelm Assad and Erdoğan decided to get out in front of it. Assad in a TV interview c.2014 did not blame Erdoğan personally, claiming he was misled by his foreign minister at the time. But that minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu, is long gone and Erdoğan is still denouncing Israel but destroying Syria.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:59 utc | 138

@Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 13:46 utc | 96
>>Syria should have kept a strong force in Aleppo as its right next to Idlib, the head chopper paradise.
Rightfully calling Idlib a head chopper paradise immediately shows that there should have been no Idlibstan, period. But yeah what you say is the next best thing. There is an irony here, though a bitter one. I think in the early 2010s Obama pretended to engage Assad, showing his liberal side. But of course Syria had to become more market-oriented; how about downsizing that wasteful SAA? When poor Bashar fell for it and laid off some of his most experienced generals, demoralizing the remainder of the SAA, Obama wasted no time and struck. So these weeks are a replay of sorts of Assad letting his guard down. Those damn yanquis never change, and we suckers never learn.
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@Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 14:02 utc | 99
All true and legit to mention; thanks for not posting the full 1000-point list. 🙂 But it’s only part of the picture, and it’s a picture we’ve seen before. So often Izzies seem ready to turn on each other, and in fact they regularly do–with their fists. But just when you think it’s all going to set off, they turn around and point their real weapons at the Arabs. Zionist tribal solidarity is real; or, in view of that awful Hannibal Directive, perhaps one should call it a commitment to the overall Zionist cause which transcends the individual. Either way, it is deep-seated, Yitzhak Rabin being the exception that proves the rule. In contrast, the past week once more saw Arabs killing Arabs, and we’ll need a lot more of that before Aleppo is retaken.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 20:09 utc | 139

Palestinian Canadians Condemn ‘Betrayal’ of Faltering Gaza Visa Scheme
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/palestinian-canadians-condemn-betrayal-of-faltering-gaza-visa-scheme
“…Canada approved more than 960,000 visas for Ukrainians fleeing Russia’s invasions of their country – an 81 percent approval rate – and nearly 300,000 people have arrived over a two-year span.
In contrast, the Gaza Visa programme was capped at 5,000 visas.
Canada’s immigration department told Al Jazeera last month that, as of Oct 5, only 733 applications from Palestinians ‘who exited Gaza on their own’ – without help from the government – had been approved.
By that dates, only 334 Palestinians had arrived in the country, the department said, without specifying why the others had not landed in Canada.
‘When I saw Canada welcoming thousands of Ukrainians fleeing war, I felt hopeful. I believed that the same compassion would extend to my family,’ Omar said during Tuesday’s news conference.
But it hasn’t. The betrayal – the cold refusal – has left me questioning if there is any heart left in this government, if there is any compassion left for people like us?’
‘If this government was serious about saving Palestinians, Israel would face serious consequences for preventing their exit from Gaza,’ Alex Paterson of the advocacy group Canadians For Justice and Peace in the Middle East said during Tuesday’s news conference.
‘This delay, even as relentless bombardment continues, is a travesty and prompts a chilling question,’ he said. ‘Was this programme deliberately designed to fail?’
Compare & Contrast (&vid)
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/compare-contrast/2024/11/28/canadian-visa-programmes
“Canada’s Ukrainian travel plan vs Gaza programme.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 20:13 utc | 140

there’s an 11-second video at the first link showing the military equipment of the USA/turkey/Nato rolling in Syria.
the real axis of evil
https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/1863198702455660813
Babak Taghvaee – The Crisis Watch @BabakTaghvaee1
#BREAKING: Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorists of #HTS (Tahrir Al-Sham) are given US made M113 armoured personnel carriers by #Turkish Army to use against Kurdish population of Tall Rifaat which is currently under protection of the #SDF.
The US government obviously has No problem with Turkey equipping and arming these terrorists with the US made weapons as No sanctions have been imposed on the Turkish Army by the Treasury Department.
https://t.me/me_observer_TG/399645
ME_OBSERVER_
⚡️ Moshe Ya’alon, former Chief of Staff and Minister of Defense of the #Israeli army, in an interview on Channel 12:
– I do not back down, #Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing in the #Gaza Strip, demolishing the homes of residents and displacing them to establish settlements.
– #Israel is not a democratic state today, and is on its way to becoming a rogue state with metaphysical ideas.
– Arrest warrants should have been issued against Smotrich and Ben-Gvir as well long ago, and he refuses to condemn the warrants against Netanyahu.
https://x.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1863275833084768640
Kevork Almassian🇸🇾🇦🇲 @KevorkAlmassian
🇸🇾🇦🇲 BIG: Dr. Yervant Arslanian, the director of the Scientific Research Center in Aleppo, was deliberately targeted and assassinated today by the al-Nusra terrorists.
Guess who’s also obsessed with Syria’s scientific researchers? Israel.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 2 2024 20:25 utc | 141

________________
Gene Poole 93 –“I suspect Canuck’s identity has been usurped. Would he take a cheap shot like that at a fellow barfly?”
Remember a ‘cheap shot’ but more venomous and erroneous that A took at steven t johnson and never apologized when A was shown to be wrong?.

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 20:36 utc | 142

“there will be ALL HELL TO PAY in the Middle East”
…doesn’t sound very Christian to me…

Posted by: Minaa | Dec 2 2024 20:54 utc | 143

If there is a way forward for the world it is cooperation while still retaining the culture and identity of individual nation states. It is a difficult time. The nations that value cooperative values should do so. Their economic successes will serve as their legacy and charter. They should practice self defense but not be pulled into wars that ultimately defeat any chance of a appropriate transition. Their successful economy’s will ultimately prevail.
There is no doubt Russia, China, or Iran will practice self defense if it comes to that. Then the world ends so any sane individual doesnt desire that. This feels like manipulation but being goaded into destructive behavior is the ultimate manipulation.
The world is learning. Think how much we have learned. Cooperation that values cultural identity will ultimately prevail. If it doesnt then it will be the end.
Humanity will ultimately choose cooperation and justice. We just witnessed a rapid pivot. It has power but not true power . True power develops slowly. Bit by bit the tree splits the rock.
The horror and fear the genocide creates is not unintentional.It is designed to create outrage. It is designed to deny life. It is designed to provoke rash actions. It is hard for the tree. Bit by bit the tree is what the tree is. The rock is split as a function of life. This is effortless.
The idea that Russia China and Iran will become subservient is ridiculous. It may be the most bizaare idea ever. They hold hold the winning hands. The only question is if the loser will choose life or throw a tantrum. All Brics can do is demonstrate they choose life.
As resources are depleted the age of war ends. The model of acquiring resources by war assumes infinite resources. The war model is on its last legs. The model may yield temporary yields but they grow smaller and smaller mere crumbs.
Erdogon gets his f35s. Think what he has lost. What a fool. All you can do is shake your head. All you can do is choose life.
When you witness glee you witness a loser. Glee is a attempt to assert losing is winning. Thats why it is so flamboyant. The flamboyance attempts to hide its basis.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 2 2024 20:56 utc | 144

Al Mayadeen English .Net
news/politics/hezbollah-fires-warning-strike-in-response-to-israeli-violat
Hezbollah fires warning strike in response to Israeli violations
After dozens of Israeli violations against the ceasefire with Lebanon, which took effect on November 27, the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon carried out a preliminary defensive response to warn the occupation against any further violations.
….Hezbollah targeted the Israeli-occupied Ruwaysat al-Alam site in the Kfar Chouba hills, in southern Lebanon.
The Resistance said in its statement that it conducted the operation in response to the violations, “which have included various forms of aggression, such as firing on civilians and conducting airstrikes in different areas of Lebanon—resulting in the martyrdom of civilians and injuries to others—and the continued breach of Lebanese airspace by enemy aircraft, even reaching the capital Beirut.”
Hezbollah said the operation was an “initial defensive and warning response”, concluding its statement by saying, “You have been warned”……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 2 2024 21:06 utc | 145

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 14:02 utc | 99
Such music to my ears. The universe is singing.

Posted by: Jack M | Dec 2 2024 21:06 utc | 146

“I hesitate to just dismiss democracy when it really hasn’t yet had a fair chance to operate.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 1 2024 21:52 utc | 52
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“Plato’s charge against democracy is that it violates the proper order of society by creating an artificial equality. His fundamental criticism of democracy is (essentially) that it is an irrational form of the constitution. It is based on the assumption that every citizen is equally entitled to a say….”
Posted by: canuck | Dec 2 2024 10:22 utc | 86
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Socrates was Plato’s teacher, Aristotle learned at Plato’s Academy, and Aristotle was the well-paid tutor of Alexander the Great. In other words, it was Plato’s responsibility to help shape the minds of his day’s up-and-coming slave-owning ruling class, just as Plato was also trained in his youth to the slave-owning system, which was the economic foundation of his time
Canuck, what the fuck do you think Plato was going to say about “democracy,” real or otherwise?
Democracy may be imperfect, but we don’t know because humanity, including Plato, has not experienced it yet. All the dominant economic systems known to humanity have been exploitive: Slavery, Feudalism, and Capitalism. Humanity has only flirted with Socialism in the last two hundred years, including the Soviet experience.
However, there is just one little qualification: Humans seem to have lived as small primitive communistic groups or family units before “civilization” invented slavery via territorial wars with other emerging city-states. So why do you defend exploitative systems like slavery?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 2 2024 21:35 utc | 147

Judge Nap: Alastair Crooke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEvZlTYpsz4
JN: “What is the long war to reaffirm Western and Israeli supremacy?”
AC: “That is the war we’re in.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 21:37 utc | 148

by the way, Alexander Mercouris talks yesterday of one of his sources telling him about “large numbers of Wagner troops being sent to Syria from russia”
https://x.com/HossamShabat/status/1863287815695397027
حسام شبات @HossamShabat
➤ Director of the Ministry of Health in Gaza, Dr. Al-Bursh: “We urgently need an international investigation committee to uncover what Israel is doing to us. These bombs have terrifying sounds, and when a person gets within 200-300 meters of them, they vaporize.
https://x.com/democracynow/status/1863624175895691330
Democracy Now! @democracynow
“Targeted & Assassinated”: Gaza Soup Kitchen Chef Mahmoud Almadhoun Killed by Israeli Drone
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/12/2/gaza_soup_kitchen
Israel killed more than 200 Palestinians in Gaza on Saturday, including 40 members of a single family. The official death toll in Gaza is now over 44,000, although experts believe that is a vast undercount of the true figure. Israel’s onslaught has continued to kill medical and aid workers in recent days, including three people with World Central Kitchen, the head of the intensive care unit at Kamal Adwan Hospital, a staff member with Save the Children, as well as Mahmoud Almadhoun, who co-founded the Gaza Soup Kitchen that has fed Palestinians suffering hunger due to Israel’s blockade of vital food aid.
Almadhoun was killed in an Israeli drone strike and is survived by seven children, including a newborn baby. His brother Hani Almadhoun joins Democracy Now! to discuss what he calls a targeted assassination. “My brother slowed down the ethnic cleansing of north Gaza, and that’s why he was taken out,” says Almadhoun. “This is a war against the civilians in Palestine.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 2 2024 21:56 utc | 149

@Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:34 utc | 132
>>Not “become” but “because”
Yeah I got you the first time. The religion reflects the society. Dunno, but doesn’t that suggest that it’s man-made? 🙂 I liked the theology of Constantine better: “What does He want of me, Gabriel?” “Only the usual: everything you’ve ever done you’ve only ever done for yourself.” But of course that was Hollywood Catholicism not Evangelicalism. Any time there is some theology I could remotely get behind, I realize it’s already humanism not religion. Anyway I better go to bed before the forum police catches me O/T.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 22:15 utc | 150

However, there is just one little qualification: Humans seem to have lived as small primitive communistic groups or family units before “civilization” invented slavery via territorial wars with other emerging city-states. So why do you defend exploitative systems like slavery?
Posted by: Ed | Dec 2 2024 21:35 utc | 147

Don’t you know? We defend hierarchical and exploitative structures like chattel and wage slavery because they represent the natural order of things. At least in the case of slavery as it existed in the ancient Mediterranean, we have it on the word of no less an authority than Plato that this is so.

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 2 2024 22:27 utc | 151

@John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 20:13 utc | 140
>>”Canada’s Ukrainian travel plan vs Gaza programme.”
After WWII, Ukrainian Nazis who were so far-out that even the UK didn’t want them got a red-carpet welcome in Canada. After all, together with their German brethren these were the hard core of European anti-communism, and a fresh new agency called the CIA thought it prudent to preserve that. Communism is long gone in this part of the world, but new justifications were found and the game goes on. If Palestinians don’t know you have to embrace Nazism to get into Canada, they are poorly informed.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 22:43 utc | 152

Only a month after the election.
The winning side supporters are now saying democracy is pointless.
Hitler got voted in. And started a dictatorship.
Fasicists demand a free speech platform then end freespeech. I’v said so right here at MOA for the last 10 years.
If it talks like one it is one.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 22:53 utc | 153

@ Ma Laoshi #152: Or takfiri NATO proxies like White Helmets. Or Zionists of course now fleeing Israel in droves.
‘Exclusive: US, UAE Discussed Lifting Assad Sanctions in Exchange for Break with Iran, Sources Say’
“Reuters now reporting what everyone already knew but was pretending not to: The reactivation of the Syria fascist proxies by the US-NATO-Israeli empire, with Turkey playing a key role, is to force Syria to block supplies to Hezbollah so as to enable Israel’s conquest of Lebanon.”
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1863700500086824983
“At this point, anyone still pretending that the revived US-Israeli-Turkish dirty war in Syria using ISIS/AQ proxies is a popular uprising for democracy might as well pretend that the US invasion of Iraq was a popular uprising against Saddam Hussein.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 154

Israel strikes RUSSIAN weapons depot in Syria!
Israel has finally poked the Bear.
Syrian and Russian air defenses have been jointly intercepting enemy projectiles.
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1841679942557335718

Posted by: Carl | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 155

Re: Exclusive US, UAE Discussed Lifting Assad Sanctions in Exchange for Break with Israel – Sources
Corrected url:
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1863710500086824983

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:10 utc | 156

@Waldorf | Dec 2 2024 19:59 utc | 138
>>Syrian-Turkish relations were rather good under Erdoğan until he decided …
All part of the story but not its beginning I think. Somebody else already mentioned the Roebuck Memo (around 2007) or at least Amb. Roebuck. That led to the “Friends of Syria” with James Cameron, Hollande or was it still Sarkozy at the time, Obama’s henchmen, … in short the usual suspects. One commentator remarked “Friends of Syria? More like Enemies of Assad.” They quickly realized they needed Turkey on board. Now when they no doubt told him about all the loot he could snatch from Aleppo etc, it wasn’t hard to persuade Erdogan. Israel and the Gulf Arabs got on the bandwagon for their own reasons. Still, and even if it was conceived with Zionist interests in mind, the whole caper originally is a Western production. Where are the Gulf sheikhs positioning themselves these days anyway? If I were them, Turkish expansionism would look scarier to me than Syrian secularism.
Echoes in the present with Zelensky buttering up Donald Trump with tales of all the loot waiting for the US in the soil of Ukraine. Not sure whether it’ll work, but it is exactly the right way to try. Since Imperial interests are unchanging, I’m not hopeful.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 23:11 utc | 157

At least in the case of slavery as it existed in the ancient Mediterranean, we have it on the word of no less an authority than Plato that this is so.
Posted by: Lengai | Dec 2 2024 22:27 utc | 151
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Thanks for the comment, Lengai.
Humanities struggle to leave the darkness of the exploitive economic systems, a process in time, a war waged primarily by the exploitive classes, but often with the assistance of members from the Ruling classes. It is asinine for someone today to blow the horn of an ancient supporter of the exploitive classes while the opportunity for a more just society is at our very fingertips, even today. Every Elon Musk, or any other CEO, is just another Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great in a three-piece suit; they are the leaders of the exploitive class of their time.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 2 2024 23:13 utc | 158

Posted by: Carl | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 155
How? From missiles fired from Israel or missiles fired from planes? If fired from planes, why weren’t the planes shot down?

Posted by: bored | Dec 2 2024 23:24 utc | 159

Col Jacques Baud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m64wOjPOjI
“Where are we heading in Syria?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:30 utc | 160

now this first one would really be something if it were true. usually the writers at The Cradle are pretty spot on
https://x.com/snarwani/status/1863479904458948901
Sharmine Narwani @snarwani
Columnist @TheCradleMedia; West Asian geopolitics; Frmr Senior Associate, St Antony’s College, Oxford Univ.
Reports that Iran sent a direct threatening message to Erdogan stating that if the terrorist groups do not withdraw from Aleppo, there will be an intervention by tens of thousands of fighters from various factions that should instead be targeting Israel, that they will advance to Aleppo, Idlib, and all the villages, towns, and cities occupied by the Turks, and that all signed trade agreements will be nullified – noting that trade between Turkey and Iran is estimated at $30 billion, and between Russia and Turkey around $40 to $45 billion, all of which will be cut off.
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1863158051903352912
Assal Rad @AssalRad
Western outlets put words like genocide, occupation and war crimes in scare quotes to cast doubt, but for a “ceasefire” where Israel continues air strikes in Lebanon there’s no skepticism or irony.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 2 2024 23:31 utc | 161

120 Cynic, 126 Ma Laoshi, 125 Apollyon.
From “Democracy Now” last April 1, more documentation apparently ignored by US Zionist Christians and discounted by local Lutheran church near where I live and so many other ‘christian’ churches:
“As Christians around the world celebrated Easter Sunday, Palestinian Christians from the occupied West Bank were prevented from reaching Jerusalem for Good Friday to walk the Via Dolorosa, the path Jesus is said to have followed on the way to his crucifixion more than 2,000 years ago. Meanwhile, Jesus’s birthplace of Bethlehem is uncharacteristically empty of tourists this year as Israel’s assault on Gaza and crackdown on the West Bank escalate. “Nothing can wash the blood from your hands,” said the Reverend Munther Isaac at an Easter vigil for Gaza on Saturday, about Western complicity in Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. Isaac is a Palestinian Christian theologian and the pastor at the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem. He joins Democracy Now! to discuss the history of Palestinian Christians in Gaza, Israel’s occupation of Bethlehem and its strangling of freedoms in the West Bank, U.S. Christians’ support of Israel and more.”
And 129, 131 Waldorf — thanks for this explanation of what it really means when ‘christians’ say “I take Jesus Christ as my PERSONAL savior”. Really it’s an internalization of the “cultural logic of late-capitalism” (Jameson) –the nihilism that negates all possibility of collective action. Subsumption of US ‘christianity’ in the era of late capitalism.

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 2 2024 23:33 utc | 162

@Carl | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 155
>>Israel strikes RUSSIAN weapons depot in Syria!
I’ll wait for independent confirmation, but: wow. Full-court press if true. This calls for … “restraint”. Slower is better, nothing escalatory. TPTB clearly feel they got Putin’s number.
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@John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 154
When the poodles get called on to do the Dark Throne’s dirty work, they feel honored. It proves their relevance to their master: it was their phone that rang, not some other poodle’s. Few things annoy me more than Russian whining about the White Helmets. I know what they are; Moscow knows what they are. So kill them all. If you’re scared to death what the BBC would say then sorry, you’re too soft for the Middle East and should go home.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 2 2024 23:38 utc | 163

Re 161# ‘usually the writers at The Cradle are pretty spot on’ @ michaelj72
Particularly Sharmine Narwani. Thanks for posting.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:40 utc | 164

RE: Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 154
Too little too late. With China’s public announcement to assist Syria, obviously they will bankroll Syrian military, Russian ISR and flights, along with Iran and allies on the ground fighters, the decision has been made to complete the purge of USReal and retain linkage of Syrian to Lebanon ports.
The “lifting sanctions” carrot is outdated, and certainly doesn’t mean at any whim of USReal they wouldn’t be reimposed.
It may take several more years, but Western everything, including financials will be wiped away, and Syria will join BRICs alongside Iran. Even SA sees where this is headed.
I personally believe at the very least Russia knew this assault was afoot, even a week or so before the assault it was mentioned in a TASS article that USReal was so obvious about expanding to Syria.
In any case, now is as good of time as any to continue the USReal ME purge. The Arab nations will just have to grab a spectator seat as the EU/USReal vs Russia/China Superpowers battle for the ME or “West Asia” as this land mass is the key hub of power to come. Another 10-15 years before it’s sorted and settled.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 0:20 utc | 165

Trump is promising “Hell to pay” in the Middle East if the hostages are not released before he is inaugurated.
Is he actually unaware that the people of Gaza, the West Bank, Syria, and Lebanon have been subjected to multiple genocides, increasing during the last calendar year?
If Hamas gives up the hostages, they lose the last of their leverage, as Israel and the US will annihilate what is left of Palestine.
I know that Trump likes to play to the crowd on social media but I really want to see him try. I really want to see Yemen sink a couple USN ships.
The Zionists (including Trump) cannot be negotiated with. They must be completely and totally defeated.
The same goes for the EU and NATO. As long as these animals dare to dream, they are a threat, as Turkiye has been demonstrating in Idlib, breaking multiple formal agreements with the Russians, Iranians, and Syrians.
Very exciting times.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 3 2024 0:37 utc | 166

Certainly it does not take a genius to ascertain a level of ‘western’ meddling attempts to escalate violence in Syrian. Saudi Arabia too was implicated in feeding ‘rebel’ groups with arms. One would have to be completely blind and obedient to propaganda based on prior years of leaked information.
Plus the U.S. is still illegally squatting on Syrian land and quite literally stealing their resources.
They are doing it on purpose so that Syria cannot effectively fund itself through trade and rebuild properly.
If you go back far enough too alot of those wahhabi types can be traced back to CIA influences that spread such extremist ideology in the first place. And just like back then they didn’t have any sort of logical end game to such actions, just toppling whom they didn’t like.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 3 2024 1:03 utc | 167

@ Cynic 133
“Mercouris postulates that Putin is very angry with Assad for allowing personal emotion — detestation of Erdowan — to get in the way of diplomacy …
IF that reckoning is correct, then it suggests Putin to be either a liberal Atlanticist quisling … or a dangerously naive and self-deluding idiot.”

All possibilities are on the table, but the most unlikey one is Putin being an idiot or an out-and-out Atlantacist. The other possibility is that Mercouris has his “facts” wrong. Within a few days of Hamas starting Operation Flood, Mercouris went ballistic, saying that Hamas were damned terrorists who deserved death. My response was to write off Mercouris for nearly a year, but then I saw that respectable people were still appearing on his channel.
Yes, once in a while Mercouris gets something right that isn’t common knowledge. In April 2021, he was the only one I know of who discussed the Russian fear that the Ukrainian were about to invade Novorossiya. The Russians moved about 100,000 troops in a sudden move, and then it seems the West relented. Mercouris only gave the topic a few minutes once or twice, but no one else even mentioned it at the time. If you know of any other news source from that April 2021 incident, I’d really like to know. Still For me, Mercouris is something of a blowhard. Certainly you can’t quite take his word for anything, although he could also be the only correct person. As for taking the pulse of the Kremlin, John Helmer and Gilbert Doctorow are much more credible and detailed.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Dec 3 2024 1:03 utc | 168

Russia has just ordered it’s citizens to immediately leave Israel after Israeli airstrikes attacked the vicinity of Russia’s Khmeimim base in Syria.
🇮🇱1.5 MILLION Russians live in Israel. This is a warning to get out before it’s too late. Something big is coming.
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1841804925350646266/photo/1

Posted by: Carl | Dec 3 2024 1:24 utc | 169

@Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 0:20 utc | 165
>>With China’s public announcement to assist Syria
This is an answer to the question the other day, “Where is China?” China never went away, but they play to their own strengths and interests. China is, obviously, not a more populous Russia–and if it were, the two giants would be competitors instead of largely complementary.
In fact, in the Korean war, I think the Chinese military intervention was a success in that it achieved their goals, which never included the conquest of the peninsula. But it cost them a million people; not gonna repeat that periodically.
The whole question “Where is China” is in fact a bit strange, given that they mediated the normalization between KSA and Iran. That absolutely deserves a frikkin’ Nobel, which the Norwegian NATO satraps aren’t going to give them. Kinda impressive that that detente still holds through this turmoil. Seems once those two started speaking to each other they accepted that both are muslim, leaving the finer points to the clerics. They have lived next to each other for centuries, and have to continue doing so.
This also ended the Yemen War, even though we perhaps didn’t notice because the next Yemen War followed it almost immediately. But in this one, those plucky Yemenis are blockaders instead of merely the perpetually blockaded. Delicious karma, even if I doubt it helps Yemeni civilians very much.
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@LoveDonbass | Dec 3 2024 0:37 utc | 166
Let’s face it, the Trump voters want “Zion all the way.” It’s not like he promised anything else, especially this time round. And everybody who wanted a seat on the Trump Train publicly bent the knee–which most of them had been doing their whole career anyway. Only question is if Tulsi Gabbard comes out in support for the Syrian jihad (assuming she even gets confirmed). If she does, I’d say she is more of a snake than even the Donald.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 3 2024 1:39 utc | 170

Carl | Dec 3 2024 1:24 utc | 169

Russia has just ordered it’s citizens to immediately leave Israel after Israeli airstrikes

That tweet is dated Oct 3, about 2 months ago.

Posted by: BD | Dec 3 2024 1:54 utc | 171

Russia has just ordered it’s citizens to immediately leave Israel after Israeli airstrikes attacked the vicinity of Russia’s Khmeimim base in Syria.
Posted by: Carl | Dec 3 2024 1:24 utc | 169
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Much better if Russia had ordered them to stay put.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 3 2024 1:54 utc | 172

Carl | Dec 2 2024 23:04 utc | 155

Israel strikes RUSSIAN weapons depot in Syria!
Israel has finally poked the Bear.

This is from Oct 2 that happened about 2 months ago.

Posted by: BD | Dec 3 2024 2:00 utc | 173

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 3 2024 1:39 utc | 170
#########
We have a few people at the bar who are ok with genocide if Trump is the one doing it to “Make America Great Again” by creating Greater Israel.
The same people claim Trump is a peacemaker who gave weapons to Ukrainian Nazis to kill Russians in Donetsk, Lugansk, and Odessa.
There is a lot of mental illness in the Western world today.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 3 2024 2:13 utc | 174

RE: “In regard to Israel Russia was never in. Iran is out.
What will become of the region is a function of the Israeli people. It is in their hands.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAjKefPYKY
Posted by: Fred | Dec 2 2024 18:19 utc | 119
Ludicrous.
Two mirror nations (USReal) on the verge of bankruptcy & militarily impotent among peers even, but sure, 9 whole million “Israelis” will determine the whole region and what it “becomes”.
It didn’t accomplish that when the twin nations had money, power, military might & reputation & UN sewn up… but somehow now, the dilapidated, maniacal & genocidal & broke tiny hamlet will now crown itself King of the ME…
Sure.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 3:21 utc | 175

RE : Posted by: Fred | Dec 2 2024 18:19 utc | 119
It just occurred to me that you’ve no idea who Kevork is, what Syriana Analysis is?
He’s been about this game since 2011-2013.
It’ll sink in what he is after a bit. He’s been working this corner a lot of years.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 3:30 utc | 176

RE: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 3 2024 0:37 utc | 166
As Press TV stated, 33 “hostages” have died this week. In any case, the “hostages” obviously are not “leverage” as it is clear to Hamas (and the World) no one cares if they die, including Trump.
( https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/12/03/738378/Israel-33-captives-killed-Gaza-Hamas-warning-Netanyahu-war-genocide)
Trump is in need of an excuse to authorize military intervention and hoping for an angle he can sell to the American people “we need to rescue the poor “hostages” from those terrorists”… theme
Sounds better than”bomb, bomb, bomb —bomb, bomb Iran”…
But that’s his aim. Consent… since he’s made up his mind.
Time to earn that 100 million on day one of bobble-head resolute desk duty.
Much like rescuing baby’s being thrown out of incubators.
I can see MAGA Americans now, tears welling for those poor 60 POWS in captivity…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 3:48 utc | 177

Reading this blog, LED light bulbs, LED car lights, flashing LED Shop signs appear to be destroying my eyesight.
I’m not such a nutter as to say that this might be deliberate, but I don’t think the PTB have given enough thought to the intensity of LED light.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 3 2024 4:32 utc | 178

“It just occurred to me that you’ve no idea who Kevork is, what Syriana Analysis is?
He’s been about this game since 2011-2013.
It’ll sink in what he is after a bit. He’s been working this corner a lot of years. ”
Nice call
100% true
first encountered him a few days ago.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 3 2024 5:19 utc | 179

From Al Manar

Lebanese media reported around 73 Israeli violations of the cease-fire deal since it came into force last week, turning it to be a mere ease-fire.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 3 2024 5:23 utc | 180

asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل
@asadabukhalil
Look at genocide advocate Thomas Friedman: he is justifying Israeli bombing of neighborhoods:
“Israel was so surgical in its bombing inside Lebanon, trying to hit only Hezbollah targets and pro-Hezbollah neighborhoods”
https://nytimes.com/2024/12/02/opinion/trump-mideast-syria-conflicts.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
via ⁦@nytopinion

https://x.com/asadabukhalil/status/1863812793352569243

Posted by: Menz | Dec 3 2024 5:40 utc | 181

Antony Loewenstein
@antloewenstein
I’m really enjoying listening the audio book of the late Robert Fisk’s last book, Night of Power, which is a moving and enraging catalogue of Western crimes in the Middle East (I’m currently hearing about US crimes in Iraq post 2003 war, a conflict that’s often forgotten down the memory hole).
Thanks to the wonderful journalist @pazira1
for completing this book for publication:
https://audible.com.au/pd/Night-of-Po
https://x.com/antloewenstein/status/1863727126270316819

Posted by: Menz | Dec 3 2024 5:41 utc | 182

The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel profits from oppression
Hamza Yusuf
2 December 2024 13:31 GMT | Last update: 15 hours 54 mins ago
The Palestine Laboratory, a podcast by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein available on Drop Site News, is an essential listen.
Based on Loewenstein’s book of the same name, the podcast explores how Israel’s military and technological advancements are used to sustain the oppression of Palestinians, while simultaneously being commercialised for profit globally.
This grim intersection of occupation, surveillance and profit is dissected across four episodes: “Start-Up Nation”, “How to Make Friends”, “Privatising the Occupation” and “After October 7”. They offer a deeply researched perspective on the commodification of military rule.
At the heart of the podcast lies a powerful argument: Palestinians are not only dehumanised and dominated by Israel’s political and military establishment, but their oppression is also turned into a profit-making venture.
Israel has effectively exported its occupation, marketing its supposed military innovations – developed and tested on Palestinians – to a global audience. This point resonates throughout the series, painting a sobering picture of how apartheid and economics are terrifyingly intertwined.
Chilling juxtaposition
One of the podcast’s standout episodes, “After October 7”, underscores this connection. On 14 November 2023, amid Israel’s illegal siege of Gaza’s al-Shifa Hospital, Israeli military and tech companies were simultaneously attending Milipol Paris, one of the world’s largest national security exhibitions.
At this event, attended by more than 30,000 participants from 160 countries, Israeli companies showcased products such as remote-controlled weapons developed by SmartShooter, tested extensively in Gaza and the occupied West Bank. Such products are marketed as “combat-proven”, with their effectiveness demonstrated on Palestinian populations.
It was cause-and-effect personified. As Haaretz reported in April, clients from around the world have taken an interest in Israeli systems and weaponry “backed up by evidence fresh from the battlefields in Gaza and Lebanon”.
The juxtaposition is chilling. While Gaza was being subjected to a litany of crimes against humanity – including the deaths of premature babies in al-Shifa Hospital due to fuel shortages, and the digging of mass graves inside the hospital compound – Israeli firms were reaping the benefits of the military-industrial complex.
Loewenstein powerfully illustrates how the ethnic cleansing and occupation of the Palestinian territories becomes a selling point for Israel’s arms industry. Importantly, the series doesn’t shy away from the brutal realities on the ground, ensuring that Palestinian voices are centred, and not caveated or qualified.
Loewenstein speaks with Palestinian journalist Mariam Dawas from Gaza, who recounts the horrors of surviving six Israeli military onslaughts. She describes how civilians in Gaza have learned to distinguish between the weapons killing them: “People in Gaza know when it’s Apache. They know when it’s F-16.”
Recently, newer weapons, including F-35 jets, have been confirmed to have been used in Gaza, adding to the overwhelming devastation.
Such firsthand accounts, interspersed throughout the podcast, ensure that the human toll of Israel’s aggression remains front and centre.
MORE…
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-laboratory-profits-oppression-how

Posted by: Menz | Dec 3 2024 5:46 utc | 183

Syria seems to be shaping up to be the mother of all proxy wars.
Iraq Shia militias moving in.
Not fond of Idlib crowd.
Possibly IRGC
Russian air
Hizbollah busy elsewhere
Assads troops
VS
Erdogans pet head chopper captagon crew
whatever crew USA trained at the Al Tanf “anti ISIS base”
US air?
Israeli air?
Whatever the cat drags in. Just like last time. Only this time its for keeps. Syria is under the overpass at midnight. No troublesome superpowers directly participating.
Should provide Trump with all the MAGA is back action he wants and then some.

Posted by: Fred | Dec 3 2024 5:46 utc | 184

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1863627583608205584
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️⭕️ Israel’s violations became so clear in the recent days that even France and Americans had to acknowledge the breaches and violations.
The Lebanese state, army, the American ”guarantor”, and the committee that monitors the ceasefire all failed to repel Israeli violations.
Only then Hezbollah retaliated, and the retaliation was on the occupied Lebanese Shebaa farm and not on occupied Palestinian territories.
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1863700390467752071
Tiberius @ecomarxi
CNN has just reported that Israel has violated the ceasefire deal with Lebanon “about 100 times.” Nothing Israel says can ever be trusted — nothing. Everything is a lie carefully designed to manufacture consent for the Greater Israel colonial project with full Western support.
https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1863611983972487410
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
The United States is now waging proxy wars against no fewer than three countries in Eurasia while arming and funding a genocide against a fourth.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 3 2024 6:52 utc | 185

News From Syrian Friend ‘J’ Close to SAA
https://x.com/timand2037/status/1863772275343835147
“Now, after 4 days of shock we began the attack. The terrorists were stopped from entering Hama and the army regained control of some towns in the northern Hama countryside towards Idlib.
Syrian and Russian aircraft are striking the main centers of the Al Nusra Front in the Al-Ghab area and inside Idlib and the main towns in Idlib Governate.
And the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) is on the way to regain control of Khan, Shaykhun, Maarat al-Numan and Saraqib. The terrorists are calling and screaming to be saved to be saved in these areas.
For Aleppo, the Syrian Arab Army is moving cautiously because there are civilians inside Aleppo, countryside and towns, but it was able to control Allariya and I believe Khanasar and is on the way to Al-Sfira as well.
There is little news about the Aleppo front due to the seriousness of the battle, but I can tell you in the coming days you will hear good news. Here in Syria our morale is very high and this is our last battle so we will be victorious and defeat all terrorists…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 3 2024 7:09 utc | 186

“Let’s face it, the Trump voters want “Zion all the way.” It’s not like he promised anything else, especially this time round. And everybody who wanted a seat on the Trump Train publicly bent the knee–which most of them had been doing their whole career anyway.”
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Dec 3 2024 1:39 utc | 170
You are correct. Only in our little tiny alternative world of hope and make-believe did there ever exist the idea that “Trump is the peace candidate”. Never once did he ever actually indicate anything other than he will be more aggressive in favor of wot Israels’s Likud Party (Netanyahu) wants. Most Trump voters approve of it because most Trump voters are Fox News low-info types who think Saddam Hussein was in charge of 9/11.

Posted by: naBisco | Dec 3 2024 7:12 utc | 187

Further to ME Observer report on Israeli Leb violations posted by michaelj72 @ #185:
Hezbollah Fired 2 Missiles on Israel in retaliation to their Breach of the Ceasefire
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1863608577182634273
“This is a clever move by Hezbollah’s new Secretary-General who waited until the US and France announced that Israel was violating the ceasefire – and then decided to retaliate. This is a position of strength.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 3 2024 7:41 utc | 188

e the video at the second link
https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1863365885324415468
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
This is nuts. How is possible that the former head of the Israeli military, Moshe Yaalon, says Israel is ‘ethnically cleansing’ Gaza, and yet the British government and British media are still framing the 14 months of slaughter there as ‘self-defence’?
https://x.com/ragipsoylu/status/1863245709010460841
Ragıp Soylu @ragipsoylu
This isn’t your simple expert speaking.
He is actually the former Israeli defense minister and former IDF Chief Moshe Ya’alon, who clearly says ethnic cleansing is underway in Gaza to establish Jewish settlements
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1863105190125081078
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
The CIA and Pentagon have armed 21 out of 28 Syrian anti-government militias repurposed by Turkey into a mercenary “national army,” according to Turkish think tank SETA
Many of these same US-backed groups participated in this week’s assault on Aleppo
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/16/us-backed-crazy-militias-turkeys-invasion-syria/
Here’s SETA’s chart showing US sponsorship of Syrian anti-government militias repurposed by Turkey as a mercenary force
Many of these same groups fought in various coalitions with Al Qaeda/Nusra/HTS

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 3 2024 8:09 utc | 189

Trump Pick To Lead Defense Chanted ‘Kill All Muslims’ at Veterans Event
https://www.trworld.com/us-and-canada/trumps-pick-to-lead-defense-chanted-kill-all-muslims-at-veterans-event-18239186
“US President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Department of Defense is accused of chanting ‘Kill all Muslims’ in a drunken rage at a veterans group event in 2015, in addition to allegations of sexual impropriety and personal misconduct during a separate incident in 2017, according to the New Yorker magazine.
Despite these revelations, Trump is standing by his choice for Secretary of Defense. ‘President Trump is nominating high-calibre and extremely qualified candidates to serve in his administration,’ Trump communications director Steven Cheung said in a statement…”
Delighted to see the empire in such capable hands…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 3 2024 8:19 utc | 190

Trump’s Pick to Lead Defense Changed ‘Kill All Muslims’ at Veterans Event [Corrected url from above]
https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-canada/trumps-pick-to-lead-defense-chanted-kill-all-muslims-at-veterans-event-18239186

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 3 2024 8:25 utc | 191

Prominent anti-Zionist Tony Greenstein charged in Britain under Terrorism Act
Robert Stevens
The charging of prominent anti-Zionist Tony Greenstein under anti-terror laws is the latest move by the British state to intimidate and silence opposition to the war in Gaza.
Greenstein, aged 70, has been charged under the Terrorism Act 2000 by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) on one count of inviting support for a proscribed organisation, Hamas. He is bailed to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on December 12.
Greenstein is a co-founder of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), which, along the Stop the War Coalition and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament has organised more than 20 national protests against Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians. A supporter of former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, Greenstein was expelled from the party in 2018—while Corbyn was still in charge—based on manufactured charges of antisemitism. His father was a Rabbi who marched against Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists during the 1930s.
On November 25, Greenstein received an e-mail “Case Update” from DC 55520 of Investigations Team 3, Counter-Terrorism Policing South East. This stated, “I have today received a response from the CPS in relation to the ongoing case against you. The CPS have authorised one charge, contrary to Section 12(1) of the Terrorism Act 2000, expressing support for a proscribed organisation”.
The e-mail continued, “I appreciate that this has taken a long time to reach this decision and the result will be disappointing for you.” The letter instructed Greenstein to attend a police station on November 27, “where the charge will be read to you and you will be released under the same bail conditions as you are currently on.”
The Skwawkbox website reported that Greenstein attended the police station on November 29 “because of hospital treatment”. The alleged offence could see him jailed for a maximum of 14 years. This was increased from 10 years when the Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Act 2021 came into force.
From wsws.org

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 3 2024 8:31 utc | 192

UK activist Tony Greenstein has been charged under the Terrorism Act for expressing support for Palestinian resistance to Zionist colonisation and genocide.
He is crowdfunding to support his legal defence, link here.
Tony Greenstein also has an article on his blog about the police repression of Palestine activists in the UK. His blog article contains a link to the above crowdfunding site.

Posted by: Lengai | Dec 3 2024 8:50 utc | 193

We are living in a post-truth world.
Truth is defined by the trajectory of a hypersonic missile.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 3 2024 9:22 utc | 194

There is little news about the Aleppo front due to the seriousness of the battle, but I can tell you in the coming days you will hear good news. Here in Syria our morale is very high and this is our last battle so we will be victorious and defeat all terrorists…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 3 2024 7:09 utc | 186
I hope this time Putin drops his “embalming” strategy for Syria and finally wipes out these terrorist groups completely.
The strategy of just doing enough to keep the Syrian state on life support risks losing everything in one fell swoop.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 3 2024 9:26 utc | 195

Your average Hezbollah fighter walks off from fighting merkavas in south Lebanon to fight takfiris in Syria.
Your average IDF ‘soldier’ walks off from firing rounds into hospitals to go diaper shopping in Cyprus.
If the outcome of a war depends on the quality of its fighting men, Israel is doomed.
(Well, that’s according to Daniel Davis, anyway)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 3 2024 9:39 utc | 196

@ Giyane 178. Some suggestions: Don’t look directly into any light. Wear dark glasses always when outdoors. Take a couple days off from looking at computer screen. Could it be cataracks?

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 3 2024 11:39 utc | 198

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 3 2024 3:48 utc | 177 “As Press TV stated, 33 “hostages” have died this week. In any case, the “hostages” obviously are not “leverage” as it is clear to Hamas (and the World) no one cares if they die, including Trump”
My opinion is that Hamas lost it’s hostage leverage by being too successful on Oct 7. Because of that the leaders of Israeli wrote the hostages off as ‘dead’ and basically decided to go forward with the war, with the goal to destroy the military capability of Hamas. If they could bring any of the hostages ‘back to life’ that would be fine, but it was not the primary goal.

Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 3 2024 13:31 utc | 199

“Canuck, what the fuck do you think Plato was going to say about “democracy,” real or otherwise?”
Posted by: Ed Woke| Dec 2 2024 21:35 utc | 147
Your profanity clearly illustrates your lack of Intellectual Ammo (IM); as well, you obviously have not read Plato’s ‘Republic” but rather draw your coarse ideas from Modern Wokery (MW)

Posted by: canuck | Dec 3 2024 13:38 utc | 200