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December 1, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-289
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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I am moving this to the new thread – I had posted it on the old one a short while ago. Posted by: teri | Dec 1 2024 13:28 utc | 1 https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/syrian-dirty-wars-secret-origins Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 1 2024 13:46 utc | 2 @1 – I think there is a high likelihood that is fake news. Only because I cannot find anything else about it in the press, and certainly the Biden administration would try to play up such a development. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 1 2024 14:06 utc | 3 The IDF would never agree to any cease fire that does not allow them to ethically cleanse Northern Gaza of all non Jews……..that means every one of the Muslims and Christians must be forced out or murdered in the streets…. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 1 2024 15:13 utc | 4 Alan M. is quite correct, you don’t need to like guys like Assad, Qaddafi, and Hussein to see that they were screwed around with by the Western powers, and two of them taken out, because they wouldn’t kneel before the altar of USA world-wide hegemony, economic and political. Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 1 2024 15:14 utc | 5 https://x.com/blackintheempir/status/1861877219531890875 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 1 2024 15:18 utc | 6 There’s almost nothing I would love more than seeing free and Democratic Arab countries where equality, dignity, and human rights are guaranteed for all. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 15:28 utc | 7 #7 Posted by: Susan | Dec 1 2024 15:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Susan | Dec 1 2024 15:53 utc | 8 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 16:11 utc | 9 The Israel-Hezbollah Ceasefire in Lebanon and American Imperialism’s Drive for Hegemony in the Middle East Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 16:14 utc | 10 Larry quotes a Russian special forces commander who invokes the call of Palestine to illuminate the hypocrisy of pseudo-Muslims working for USrael, in Syria.
https://sonar21.com/takfiri-muslims-desperate-attempt-with-western-support-to-defeat-syria/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 1 2024 16:16 utc | 11 I can always tell by the increased censorship at MOA that things aren’t going well for the self-styled “geopolitical experts” here. Posted by: Johnny Johnston | Dec 1 2024 16:32 utc | 12 Yes Donbass Posted by: Susan | Dec 1 2024 16:35 utc | 13 There’s almost nothing I would love more than seeing free and Democratic Arab countries where equality, dignity, and human rights are guaranteed for all. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 1 2024 16:47 utc | 14 Loss after loss after loss but you still fantasize that victory is right around the corner…it’s quite amusing to see (and laugh at)… Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 1 2024 17:00 utc | 16 What are terrorists in Syria trying to achieve? Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 1 2024 17:07 utc | 17 If anybody is wondering what is going on with Erdogan. Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 1 2024 17:09 utc | 18 ‘Moderate Rebels’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 17:14 utc | 19 Too right, LD! When I try to very gently explain things to my friends, they just ignore my comments. I’ve got friends who really think that Trump will, magically, on 20 January shake his fist at Putin and Zelensky and everything will be fine. Posted by: Hunsdon | Dec 1 2024 17:15 utc | 20 Loss after loss after loss but you still fantasize that victory is right around the corner…it’s quite amusing to see (and laugh at)… Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 1 2024 17:26 utc | 21 Syrian President Pledges To Maintain Territorial Integrity in Talks with UAE Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 17:30 utc | 22 Democracy is a mechanism by which people lose control of their country to special interests that have no sense of patriotism or loyalty to that nation. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 1 2024 17:38 utc | 23 I have been an Assad-stan since I saw the videos several years ago debunking the White Helmets chemical weapons hoax. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 17:47 utc | 24 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 1 2024 17:38 utc | 23 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 17:54 utc | 25 Posted by: Johnny Johnston | Dec 1 2024 16:32 utc | 12 Posted by: Hunsdon | Dec 1 2024 17:59 utc | 26 1/ REPORT: Smoke was seen bursting from the head of a Palestinian victim of an Israeli attack in Beit Lahia, in northern Gaza today. Witnesses likened it to the release of steam from a pressured engine — the latest in a horrifying pattern linked to new Israeli weaponry.🧵 Posted by: ld | Dec 1 2024 18:01 utc | 27 Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 1 2024 17:09 utc | 18 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 1 2024 18:11 utc | 28 not sure if this has posted but good read from Julian McFarlane Posted by: ctiger | Dec 1 2024 18:30 utc | 29 1/ REPORT: Smoke was seen bursting from the head of a Palestinian victim of an Israeli attack in Beit Lahia, in northern Gaza today. Witnesses likened it to the release of steam from a pressured engine — the latest in a horrifying pattern linked to new Israeli weaponry.🧵 Posted by: Jack M | Dec 1 2024 18:49 utc | 30 Johnny Fuckface wins his inaugural, “The Most Retarded Post I Have read Today”: Angry, sad, little MOAners still waiting for their “glorious victory”… Posted by: John Jackson | Dec 1 2024 19:20 utc | 32 We can have a long conversation about “loss after loss” then. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 1 2024 19:21 utc | 33 Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2024 18:55 utc | 31 Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 1 2024 19:28 utc | 34 29 – It was reported that the Russian commander in Syria has been recalled and replaced, which doesn’t sound like a response to expected events. Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 1 2024 19:28 utc | 35 Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 1 2024 19:28 utc | 35 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 19:31 utc | 36 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Dec 1 2024 19:37 utc | 37 NSC Jake Sullivan, appeared on CBS this morning to opine about the potential Gaza ceasefire, and true to form blamed Hamas for the lack of a ceasefire……..he never once acknowledged the 100,000 dead Palestinian civilians, or the 100,000 maimed and missing civilians, or the over 1 million war refugees starving to death in the cold of winter as we speak all thanks to the IDF war criminals…… Posted by: Tobias Cole | Dec 1 2024 19:50 utc | 38 Folks have to stop projecting their desire for a political Messiah onto Putin. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 1 2024 20:01 utc | 39 Hezbollah’s lackluster missile / rocket force Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Dec 1 2024 20:02 utc | 40 Random observation: If the IDF could fly sorties into Syria unopposed, they’d surely be offering air cover for the astroturfed CIA assets terrorizing Aleppo. I guess those S-400s work, as deterrence, after all. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 1 2024 20:07 utc | 41 Yemeni Armed Forces Statement (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 1 2024 20:17 utc | 42 Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Dec 1 2024 20:02 utc | 40 “Hezbollah’s lackluster missile / rocket force” Posted by: Ed4 | Dec 1 2024 20:28 utc | 43 Christian J Chuba | Dec 1 2024 20:02 utc | 40 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Dec 1 2024 20:38 utc | 44 @41 Posted by: Suresh | Dec 1 2024 20:39 utc | 45 there’s a short video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 1 2024 20:46 utc | 46 As you stated above, it requires large salvos to overcome Israel’s ‘best of the West’ air defense. Widespread use of Hezbollah’s ballistic missiles will be saved for a further escalation of the conflict. Despite the horrific extent of the entity’s violence, things can and will get worse, and Hezbollah’s ballistic missiles are an important capability in the case of a full-scale US/Israeli attack on Iran. Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 1 2024 20:53 utc | 47 What are the odds that this was the result of a deal between Putin and the Netanyahu-Trump administration, in return for withdrawal from Ukraine? Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 1 2024 21:02 utc | 48 A contrarian view of the current status: An accurate model of events in the Ukraine and West Asia would be that the Axis of Resistence carefully coordinates actions using systems of communication outside the read of the pervasive Five Eyes. That events flow in a system with the overall strategic platform being death by a thousand cuts, none (with the exception of Oct 7) being so great as to become a causus bellum, as well as to maintain the high moral ground (crucial to the psychology of war). For example, were Iran and Hezebollah to bomb all Israel’s fighting planes, which they could easily do, would be sufficient to put US/UK/NATO boots on the ground in West Asia. Posted by: abierno | Dec 1 2024 21:34 utc | 49 Completing my thought as a result of inadvertent posting of partial comment: The Axis of Resistance now has a causus belli for overtly organizing against the Axis of Genocide, moving against the bases in Syria and Hezebollah who has signed or agreed to nothing, can resume attacks against Israel under the aegis of an attempt at regional stability. Posted by: abierno | Dec 1 2024 21:38 utc | 50 https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1863166255676399735 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 1 2024 21:46 utc | 51 You can blame capitalism but capitalism is really just a manifestation of individualism. America is premised upon extreme and radical individualism. Me instead of We. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 1 2024 21:52 utc | 52 Over 1000 dead Takfiris. NATO’s demilitarization continues. Posted by: Suresh | Dec 1 2024 22:36 utc | 53 It was reported that the Russian commander in Syria has been recalled and replaced, which doesn’t sound like a response to expected events. Posted by: kupkee | Dec 1 2024 22:37 utc | 54 Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 1 2024 21:46 utc | 51 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 22:54 utc | 55 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 1 2024 13:46 utc | 2 Klarenberg is a light weight, remarkably superficial given the subjects he’s often on to. Posted by: RJPJR | Dec 1 2024 22:56 utc | 56 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 1 2024 21:52 utc | 52 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 1 2024 23:02 utc | 57 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 1 2024 18:11 utc | 28 Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 1 2024 23:02 utc | 58 Posted by: RJPJR | Dec 1 2024 22:56 utc | 56 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 1 2024 23:23 utc | 59 Ahenobarbus 52 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 1 2024 23:24 utc | 60 Posted by: RJPJR | Dec 1 2024 22:56 utc | 56 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 1 2024 23:27 utc | 61 Israel’s IDF in Palestine. Has openly and proudly demonstrated. How one can track, locate and destroy any easily compromised ARM Multi-core Android based OS active cell phone user, plus basic network sim card they can choose. With a 500 kilo cruise missile gps firework. Posted by: BadDealMotorsOn | Dec 1 2024 23:36 utc | 62 Tehran makes overtures to Trump, as he prepares to escalate Washington’s war on Iran Posted by: Lengai | Dec 1 2024 23:53 utc | 63 Posted by: Lengai | Dec 1 2024 23:53 utc | 63 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 2 2024 0:07 utc | 64 Anybody notice the complete absence of the OPCW in Gaza or South Lebanon? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 0:35 utc | 65 The only credible explanation about what Erdogan is doing I’ve heard is that he wants leverage and a resolution of the Syrian mess. He gets stuck with Syrian refugees and a proto-Kurdish state. No, I don’t buy into any idea that he likes Zionists or NATO all that much. He’s a cynical self serving weasel. Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 2 2024 0:44 utc | 66 Ruth Sherlock Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:02 utc | 67 Aaron Maté Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:04 utc | 68 Seyed Mohammad Marandi Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:05 utc | 69 Kevork Almassian🇸🇾🇦🇲 Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:05 utc | 70 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:07 utc | 71 Assal Rad Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:12 utc | 72 Link for previous: Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 2:19 utc | 73 Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 2 2024 0:44 utc | 66 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 2 2024 3:21 utc | 74 Oxford Union descends into chaos over vote on Israel ‘genocide’ Posted by: Don Firineach | Dec 2 2024 3:22 utc | 75 Turk 152 74 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 2 2024 4:09 utc | 76 Don Firineach 75 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 2 2024 4:17 utc | 77 Gaza/Syria War Day 421/4: Turkiye’s Assault on Aleppo Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2024 7:00 utc | 78 This is the opening of Chomsky’s new and last book Posted by: ld | Dec 2 2024 7:53 utc | 79 Attacks in Aleppo ‘ostensibly good news for Israel,’ JISS researcher says Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 2 2024 8:39 utc | 80 Posted by: Giyane | Dec 2 2024 4:09 utc | 76 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Dec 2 2024 8:43 utc | 81 Eventually the israeloids will turn their greedy eyes to Turkey and proclaim it part of “Eretz Israel”. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 9:23 utc | 82 Seen on Kevork Almassian’s Syriana Analysis podcast titled “The Fall of Aleppo”, the HTS jihadists are terrorizing Christians in Aleppo who don’t dare leave their homes. Celebrating the Christmas holiday looks dangerous in Aleppo, considering that the US- funded HTS is publicly denigrating that holiday . What will the US Zionist Christians think when they learn their government pays for the suppression of the Christmas celebration John Gilberts @ 78 Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 10:01 utc | 84 @Suresh | Dec 1 2024 22:36 utc | 53 Posted by: gT | Dec 2 2024 10:17 utc | 85 “I hesitate to just dismiss democracy when it really hasn’t yet had a fair chance to operate.” (4) Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 10:33 utc | 87 Churchill asked Ghandi what he thought of british democracy ? Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 2 2024 10:41 utc | 88 I’m not surprised, he’s a Patel. Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 11:29 utc | 90 Biden or Trump… it will be much of a muchness. Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 11:32 utc | 91 Posted by: canuck | Dec 2 2024 10:22 utc | 86 Posted by: Menz | Dec 2 2024 11:53 utc | 92 a much more intellectually gifted philosopher than yourself, Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 2 2024 12:52 utc | 93 Israel bans Islamic call to prayer Posted by: teri | Dec 2 2024 13:22 utc | 94 Posted by: canuck | Dec 2 2024 10:22 utc | 86 Posted by: MrH | Dec 2 2024 13:45 utc | 95 gT 85. “Syria should have kept a strong force in Aleppo as its right next to Idlib, the head chopper paradise. Syria should not take chances, Russia can afford that luxury.” What will the US Zionist Christians think when they learn their government pays for the suppression of the Christmas celebration Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2024 13:57 utc | 97 @ Gene Poole | Dec 2 2024 12:52 utc | 93 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2024 13:59 utc | 98 Evidence that ‘Israel’ is in the process of catastrophic collapse: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 14:02 utc | 99 Standard Christian thought for almost two millennia. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2024 14:06 utc | 100 |
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