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December 28, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-311
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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It’s Not About What Class You’re From: It’s About What Class System You Serve Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 16:27 utc | 1 https://defence-blog.com/china-places-massive-order-for-kamikaze-drones/ Posted by: elonmuskiscool | Dec 28 2024 16:35 utc | 2 @ Ed | Dec 28 2024 16:27 utc | 1 Posted by: james | Dec 28 2024 16:44 utc | 3 Ed@1627 Dec 28 Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 28 2024 17:16 utc | 4 Posted by: elonmuskiscool | Dec 28 2024 16:35 utc | 2 “capitalism sucks and late stage capitalism really sucks…find a better system which is good for everyone and where you aren’t squeezing the bottom class to prop up you own inflated position…” I hope the Assad family enjoys New Year’s in their new apartment in Moscow! Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 18:03 utc | 7 Posted by: james | Dec 28 2024 16:44 utc | 3 Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 18:08 utc | 8 Since then we have had Fascism-with the Western governments and oligarchic controlled companies working together; surveillance state; if one cannot figure out what the Covid spectacle was all about-it was about eliminating small business and putting the hoi polloi on the govrnment payroll…. Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 18:16 utc | 9 CIA dictation to the NYT — Posted by: chet380 | Dec 28 2024 18:52 utc | 10 Top Pentagon contractor stock traders for 2024: Posted by: rgl | Dec 28 2024 19:00 utc | 11 My latest, on current events during December A Bad December for the Empire: The Gloves Come Off Part . Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 28 2024 19:37 utc | 12 @Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 18:16 utc | 10 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 28 2024 19:44 utc | 13 Roger Boyd @ 13: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 28 2024 20:16 utc | 15 10 year back above 4.6% Posted by: Exile | Dec 28 2024 20:58 utc | 16 Posted by: elonmuskiscool | Dec 28 2024 16:35 utc | 2 Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 21:31 utc | 17 I had little ideal of the immense depth and breadth of Anti-China propaganda which the average American meathead is being exposed to (until a super smart meathead shared some of the terrible things that are going on in China). Examples: Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Dec 28 2024 21:41 utc | 19 I think you are basically right. The oligarch class is moving us towards a kind of neo-feudal situation; however, it is better than the Democrats attempt to impose a totalitarian state. I prefer a variety of feudalism to totalitarianism where people like me have a chance to survive by our wits rather than be State programmed automatons to be, eventually, replaced by real robots. It may come to that anyway but I prefer the MAGA guys to the Deep Staters who want to centralize authority in the CIA/MI6/Mossad that currently rules the roost in Washington. Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 28 2024 21:50 utc | 20
COVID-19″ Genocide: 30,000,000+ dead Posted by: KOB | Dec 28 2024 22:21 utc | 21 B, Posted by: jopalolive | Dec 28 2024 22:30 utc | 22 Is a way out for Iran a possibility? Will Trump give them a chance to get rid of their nuclear program in exchange for not being attackesd? Will new realities make Iran amiable to that? Will Israel attack Iran before Trump to eliminate any possibility but war? How will Iran respond to a attack on its nuclear facilities? Unrestrained war? WE find out very soon folks. Will Russia sign a defense pact with Iran on the eve of a very probable attack? Posted by: Spud | Dec 28 2024 23:07 utc | 23 Posted by: Spud | Dec 28 2024 23:07 utc | 24 Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 23:17 utc | 24 Iran don’t have a nuclear program. Their late ayatollah gave that up. Their enrichment is just enrichment to pressure US. It’s Israel that keeps up the propaganda that Iran is just a week from having a nuclear warhead. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 28 2024 23:19 utc | 25 Posted by: Spud | Dec 28 2024 23:07 utc | 24 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 28 2024 23:26 utc | 26 Chris Cosmos | Dec 28 2024 21:50 utc | 21 Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Dec 28 2024 23:39 utc | 27 Royal navy Posted by: Newbie | Dec 28 2024 23:45 utc | 28 Spud @ 24: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 28 2024 23:59 utc | 29 Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 16:27 utc | 1 Posted by: JAB | Dec 29 2024 0:04 utc | 30 Chaka Khagan @ 20: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 29 2024 0:09 utc | 31 Newbie @ 29: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 29 2024 0:21 utc | 32 Welcome home, B, and Best Wishes for a quick recovery. And best wishes for a Happy New Year to all at the bar! Salud! Posted by: Clever Dog | Dec 29 2024 0:34 utc | 33 @ rgl | Dec 28 2024 19:00 utc | 12 Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 29 2024 0:37 utc | 34 Talking about Working Class Heroes, United Health and Luigi Mangione… Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 29 2024 0:49 utc | 35 @ Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 29 2024 0:49 utc | 36 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 29 2024 1:30 utc | 36 How many bridges of knowledge have been burned? Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 29 2024 1:38 utc | 37 “10 year back above 4.6% Posted by: myass | Dec 29 2024 1:49 utc | 38 Finnish authorities stole Russian oil and Vladimir Putin wouldn’t do anything about this. Posted by: La Petite Culotte | Dec 29 2024 1:49 utc | 39 Newbie | Dec 28 2024 23:45 utc | 29 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 29 2024 2:08 utc | 40 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 29 2024 2:20 utc | 41 I keep encountering people (even Scott Ritter!) expecting Iran to surrender its nuclear program. This idea of surrendering essential liberty for a little temporary sanctions lifting is, IMHO, outright insanity that I do not expect Iran to be stupid enough to go along with. Posted by: Bedford | Dec 29 2024 3:04 utc | 42 if one cannot figure out what the Covid spectacle was all about-it was about eliminating small business and putting the hoi polloi on the govrnment payroll…. Posted by: Coco | Dec 29 2024 3:39 utc | 43 “Posted by: Spud | Dec 28 2024 23:07 utc | 24 Posted by: Spud | Dec 29 2024 4:01 utc | 44 Posted by: Surferket | Dec 28 2024 21:31 utc | 18 Posted by: elonmuskiscool | Dec 29 2024 4:39 utc | 45
There is no proof “sars-cov-2” exists therefore “covid-19” is a medical hoax. The paper explains how people were actually murdered under the guise of combating fake disease. This is genocide. Genome of what? No virus has ever been proven to exist (isolated and characterised). Viruses as “infectious replication competent particles” have never been proven to exist. Virology is pseudoscience. Without actual virus, “viral” genomic studies are meaningless concoction of biochemical symbols = pseudoscience. Contagion is superstition. Vaccines are weapons of genocide.
Biological (including psychological) stress from mandates such as lockdowns and associated socio-economic structural changes.
Repeating a lie millions of times does not make truth.
No. It’s not the same. These things are independent of each other.
No. Virology is a study of effects of poisons on human body and attempts to create a business model around that. Rockefeller funded. As I said, without actual viruses isolated and characterised, these genomic studies are nothing but meaningless concoction of biochemical symbols = pseudoscience. Virology is a pseudoscience. Go read the materials and methods of any of these “isolation” papers. Posted by: KOB | Dec 29 2024 4:40 utc | 46 @ canuck | Dec 28 2024 17:54 utc | 7 Posted by: james | Dec 29 2024 4:44 utc | 47 @KOB | Dec 29 2024 4:40 utc | 49 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 29 2024 6:09 utc | 48 Tin Foil Hat Virus Deniers Posted by: Not Ewe | Dec 29 2024 8:18 utc | 49 All the platitudes and blessings concerning : Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 29 2024 8:19 utc | 50 I keep encountering people (even Scott Ritter!) expecting Iran to surrender its nuclear program. This idea of surrendering essential liberty for a little temporary sanctions lifting is, IMHO, outright insanity that I do not expect Iran to be stupid enough to go along with. Posted by: Jack M | Dec 29 2024 9:25 utc | 51 ” But the absaloute matching of results across tens of thousands of researchers in every nation on the planet proves its not a hoax. Posted by: CoCo | Dec 29 2024 10:21 utc | 52 “Musk, Ramaswamy (who made his money from a stock pump and dump scheme) and the other Deportable Ungrateful Immigrants (DUIs) are showing that they are just of the standard anti-working people rich bastard variety.” Posted by: Chen | Dec 29 2024 9:22 utc | 57 Posted by: MAKK | Dec 29 2024 11:06 utc | 54 Posted by: Chen | Dec 29 2024 9:00 utc | 55 Posted by: grunzt | Dec 29 2024 11:12 utc | 55 Hoarsewhisperer @ 43: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 29 2024 11:16 utc | 56 @Ed #1 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 11:54 utc | 58 @elonmuskiscool #2 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 11:55 utc | 59 @Ed #8 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 11:57 utc | 60 @rgl #12 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:05 utc | 61 @Roger Boyd #13,#14 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:09 utc | 62 @Chaka Khagan #20 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:11 utc | 63 @Hoarsewhisperer #36 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:13 utc | 64 @Chen #42 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:21 utc | 65 “Varoufakis is a failure – Economics minister for a Greek political party that surrendered to the EU.” “@Roger Boyd #13,#14 “Another 737 crash.” Even if Zelensky decides not to cut-off the Russian gas pipeline that travels through Ukraine on Jan 1st -(the end for the contract) – Moldova ran by the ardent anti-Russian president Sandu – Gazprom will still cut-off gas to Moldova on Jan 1st because Moldova hasn’t paid its gas bill which currently stands at around $709 million dollars. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 29 2024 13:36 utc | 69 Inlagd av: canuck | 29 dec 2024 12:48 UTC | 74 Posted by: Northern Eve | Dec 29 2024 13:43 utc | 70 The German authorities – which are currently trying to undermine – Russia and it allies, whilst supporting a Neo-Nazi Dictatorship in Ukraine – and aiding and abetting in a genocide in Palestine, have admitted that they have no answer to Russia new Oreshink missiles. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 29 2024 13:47 utc | 71 The article that everyone should read: Posted by: Catarina Östlund | Dec 29 2024 13:47 utc | 72 Looks like some craziness going on here, there and everywhere. Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 29 2024 14:05 utc | 73 Now the French are to be booted out of Senegal. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 29 2024 14:11 utc | 74
Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 29 2024 14:48 utc | 75 Refinnejenna@32…..under LOST, several years ago Britain passed the physical part of patrolling and enforcing LOST to the US but Britain still rules the waves legally. Any ship can be stopped, searched and confiscated, See: Russia Shadow fleet oil tankers. Or scuttled, see Russian merchant ship sunk off Spanish coast. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 29 2024 15:22 utc | 76 Medicare for all is another option but a bad one – because Medicare listed prices are still far higher than anywhere else in the world; they are just lower than the “market” price in the US. So you reduce the problem a bit but Medicare for all still does not address the core problem: getting health care in the US is ridiculously expensive and not even predictable on cost. Posted by: jinn | Dec 29 2024 15:26 utc | 77 So it looks like the Labour party in England will/have delayed local elections for a year – the official excuse is, that council authorities are to be overhauled, the more likely reason is that Labour are getting their councillors kicked-out of office at every turn – due to the Labour PM’s horrible policies – and possibly, Labour’s aiding and abetting in a genocide in Palestine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 29 2024 15:31 utc | 78 10 year back above 4.6% Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 29 2024 15:38 utc | 79 “10 year back above 4.6% 737 Jeju crash = punishment for foiling the Empire’s coup? Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 29 2024 17:45 utc | 81 What is Afghanistan motive for joining with its previous foe? Posted by: CoCo | Dec 29 2024 17:59 utc | 82 Posted by: Ed | Dec 28 2024 16:27 utc | 1 Posted by: horseguards | Dec 29 2024 18:28 utc | 83 “737 Jeju crash = punishment for foiling the Empire’s coup?” @ horseguards @ 18:28 utc | 87 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 29 2024 19:32 utc | 85 @ horseguards @ 18:28 utc | 87 “737 Jeju crash = punishment for foiling the Empire’s coup?” Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 29 2024 21:16 utc | 87 Taking out Syrias older air defense means those fat slow tankers can loiter now in east over Syria and that other country whatitsname. It gives f-35s full operational range over Iran. No more embarrassment for Jordan. Mount Hermon will soon be wired like no ones business. No more blind spots in either Lebanon or Syria. Land bridge buster. Israel took exactly what they needed and blew up exactly what they needed. Posted by: CoCo | Dec 29 2024 21:31 utc | 88 @Posted by: canuck | Dec 29 2024 10:54 utc | 57
And the actual details of the con, as reported in that very same article:
Then the drug quite predictably failed for a fifth time, the stock crashed and he walked away with his cash out.
We are provided with no details of how the sold company “had a hand in” anything. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 29 2024 22:54 utc | 89 @Posted by: c1ue | Dec 29 2024 12:09 utc | 66 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 29 2024 23:00 utc | 90 n a comment to Thom Hartmann, who wrote an article picked up by Common Dreams called: Why Can’t the US Get the Giant, Bloodsucking Health Insurance Tick off Its Back? Now Thom, who I once respected 15 years ago, is a worthless liberal pretending to be a “progressive.” He supports Biden and Netanyahu in the Gaza genocide, and he supports Biden and Zelensky in the US proxy war in Ukraine. Hartman’s article wasn’t actually bad, but he lets Democrats like Joe Biden off the hook. Below is my response to Toms’s article. Posted by: Ed | Dec 30 2024 0:08 utc | 91 I have a question. Russia was given exclusive exploration rights to Syrian gas resources off the Mediterranean coast (according to sources) yet they failed to develop anything, apparently waiting for the “right time’. Russia supported Turkey over Syria on many occasions, not least of all the deadly ceasefire deal in Idlib that effectively enabled the terrorist factions to unite under Joolani’s HTS umbrella. For 4 years these extremist, foreign and Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, factions received training, weapons, support, aid and revenue from Turkey, NATO member states, Israel and Ukraine. Russia reported this but nothing was done. Posted by: Vanessa Beeley | Dec 30 2024 0:37 utc | 92 John Steinbeck nailed it: “I guess the trouble was that we didn’t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist.” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 30 2024 0:39 utc | 93 As a side note, I would also say that removing so-called ‘health’ companies from the stock market would likewise result in a far better medical system in the U.S. The operative word in ‘stock market’ is ‘stock’, i.e. historically referring to animal stock. Americans have been reduced to nothing more than commodities which so-called law makers make tons of bucks off of. Posted by: Ed | Dec 30 2024 0:44 utc | 94 Posted by: Vanessa Beeley | Dec 30 2024 0:37 utc | 96 Posted by: Ed | Dec 30 2024 0:56 utc | 95 oLD TIMers please skip !
Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2024 1:04 utc | 96 UN Votes on Cuban embargo… Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2024 1:24 utc | 97 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 30 2024 0:39 utc | 97 Posted by: Ed | Dec 30 2024 1:36 utc | 98 Trump has now unambiguously stated his desire to annex Canada, Mexico, Panama, and Greenland (creating Fortress America with oceans as moats). Trump has also unambiguously backed Elon and Vivek who advocated for opening America up to H-1B visa holders.
Why America favors immigrant workers whose temporary visas or complete lack of legal status makes them vulnerable:
(Posted this in an older thread. Automated content filter is likely catching spam/duplicated posts, rewording my post to see if it gets through.) Posted by: All Under Heaven | Dec 30 2024 2:17 utc | 99 10 year still above 4.6% Posted by: Exile | Dec 30 2024 5:24 utc | 100 |
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