Ten Principles of modern democracy:

1. If the democratic forces do not have support, feel free to draw the desired result using the votes of the diaspora (Maya Sandu principle)
2. If the opponent wins, it is always possible to cancel the election results, stating that there is a high probability of interference from Russia (Klaus Iohannis principle).
3. If your opponents have won a majority and formed an opposition parliament that you don’t like for some reason, feel free to dissolve this parliament and declare martial law (the Yun Seok Yongk principle).
4. If you do not like the decision of the Constitutional Court, dismiss the Chairman of the Constitutional Court (Zelensky’s first principle)
5. If you don’t like the Constitution, you can put it on pause (Zelensky’s second Principle).
6. If you don’t want to pay taxes, create an extensive network of agents under the cover of the CIA under the guise of a charitable foundation, change governments, carry out revolutions, destroy the foundations of states and pass it off as philanthropy in the name of progress (Soros principle).
7. If you do not have enough votes in the elections, you can change the rules and introduce voting by mail or online voting (Biden’s first principle).
8. If you want to fight, but you don’t have the resources and courage, you can always find a state that you don’t feel sorry for, giving it the status of a “proxy” (Johnson’s principle).
9. If you are the president of a democratic state, you can always pardon your son, even if he is corrupt (Biden’s second principle).
10. Only democrats and solely for the sake of democracy are allowed to start wars, kill, carry out aggression and violate the principles of the UN and OSCE. Undemocrats, authoritarian leaders, and tyrants are strictly forbidden to do this. Or another formulation: If you want to rob and kill with impunity and legally, conform to the ideals of democracy (the basic principle of liberal democracy).

Posted by: Professional Soft | Dec 27 2024 2:32 utc | 104

The only real question is…how does something come from nothing?
Posted by: A rope leash | Dec 27 2024 2:11 utc | 110
I came to the conclusion that anything can come from nothing, what would stop it? There is nothing in nothing to stop anything from happening. Nothing is omni-potential.
It is interesting to speculate whether or not mathematical results impose some sort of limitations on what nothing can accomplish, but I don’t know the answer to that.
In any case it seems clear that what is going on here is not nothing.
Everything is an even trickier proposition to get a handle on.
I am being a bit facetious. Nice post.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 27 2024 2:52 utc | 106

“If you really want to refute it, you could at least read the first chapter.”
https://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/apologetics/mere-christianity/Book1/cs-lewis-mere-christianity-book1.php
Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 2:02 utc | 109
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That is a good point, and I promise I will. But before I do, let me tell you a story. About 25 years ago, I conversed with a devout Christian at work. The next day, he brought some religious materials to work and asked me to read them. I said I would (it was boilerplate, thick religious pamphlets), and if he would read one of my books, he said he would. The next day, I brought “Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State” by Frederic Engels. I read his book in two days and returned it to him, expecting to discuss both books (his and mine). He returned my book, and I asked him what he thought. To my surprise, he said he did not read it. He explained that he showed the book to his Minister at church, and the Minister said he should not read it because it was sinful and Satan was trying to enter you through the ideas contained in the book.
Over the years, I have met many Christians like him (I don’t remember his name. We never spoke to each other after that incident). On the other hand, I had a close friend, a Catholic Priest (Ray Savana). We were both members of a coalition that opposed President Reagan’s policy in Nicaragua. Father Ray had a master’s degree in Philosophy and a graduate degree in science. He was, of course, a Catholic apologetist. I learned a lot from him, a super guy. He passed away in 2001. He was a great debater; he would rip me to pieces, but he had a soft spot for Christian socialism ( Liberation Theology). My point is that my experience is broad but not institutional.
By the way, among atheists and agnostics, it is called Counter-Apologetics.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 27 2024 3:41 utc | 108

@ Chen | Dec 27 2024 3:34 utc | 117
suppression or banning of any russian documents by the west is par for the course.. it is either that, or twist it into something completely unrecognizable… that is how western propaganda/censorship works…
wokemedia is kind enough to offer a propagandized interpretation and a video of his speech on this link..
Address concerning the events in Ukraine feb 21 2022

Posted by: james | Dec 27 2024 4:28 utc | 110

Posted by: Ed | Dec 27 2024 1:04 utc | 104
“I only withhold judgment until better evidence based on justified true beliefs is available.”
Posted by: A rope leash | Dec 27 2024 2:11 utc | 110
“The only real question is…how does something come from nothing?”
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 27 2024 2:52 utc | 116
In any case it seems clear that what is going on here is not nothing.”
If you guys want a serious answer I’ll give it my best shot.
God didn’t create the world out of nothing, He created it out of things which aren’t seen. Hebrews 11:3 “By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.”
Mr. Einstein says that matter and energy are interchangeable (E = mc2). The verse above says God used His Word.
John 1 says that Jesus is the Word of God. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
Hebrews 1:1-2 indicates that Jesus, the Word of God, was the source of power by which God created the matter which makes up all of the universe, referenced by Mr. Einstein’s handy little formula.”1Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. ”
If God has infinite power then He was able to create as much matter as was needed.
The fact that you choose to doubt it because you weren’t around to see it just means that you put too much reliance on your own intellectual abilities. You put blind faith in other things all the time. In post 104 you said “I would never consider having heart surgery by someone who never went to medical school but had faith that God would guide him through the process.” But you didn’t actually check with the medical school to see what marks the surgeon got, or what his grades were when he took the Board Exam, or even if the certificate hanging on his wall is legitimate. However, because of your animus towards God you expect Him to rewind the Creation video before you consider that maybe it happened the way He said. I’m sorry about whatever you had to put up with in the orphanage, but God loves to take broken things and make something beautiful out of the fragments. You aren’t beyond His ability to renew and restore

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 4:47 utc | 112

Posted by: Chen | Dec 27 2024 4:56 utc | 126
“Please – you and others – stop.”
Do you know why they call it the open forum? Because it’s open. When I see your name at the bottom of a post I skip over it. Why don’t you just return the favor?

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 5:04 utc | 114

@ Chen | Dec 27 2024 5:18 utc | 130
chen = dictator of the forum? interesting role you appear to be working on chen..

Posted by: james | Dec 27 2024 5:22 utc | 116

Posted by: Chen | Dec 27 2024 5:18 utc | 130
“Clearly God is not with the Gaza Palestinians, nor with the Assad Regime of Syria, nor is God with Hezbollah or the Houthis who will on be decimated and wiped out as force. And God is definitely not with the Ukrainians or it’s Government in Kiev. God is absolutely anti US Democrats as well but He is 100% behind Donald J Trump.
The Idiocy of it all makes me vomit.”
The Bible I read says that God is with the humble.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 5:32 utc | 118

Posted by: suzan | Dec 27 2024 2:29 utc | 113
Thank you, suzan. In some of the themes that have come up on this thread I have noticed a commonality – also with the video you posted. Education is tied up with how the early history from a maori perspective has now become mainstream in that small country. It wasn’t so when I was a child; in school we learned British history. My grandmother, however, went to school with a maori princess. In a way, what is happening now is a return to simpler times. It will affect all New Zealanders and is a good thing.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 27 2024 5:45 utc | 120

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 5:04 utc | 128
“Why don’t you just return the favor?”
Posted by: Chen | Dec 27 2024 5:18 utc | 130
“Because you don’t deserve it.”
Maybe I don’t, but if we both got what we deserved, you would be in a world of hurt. Don’t be too quick to hand out judgement; that knife cuts both ways.

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 5:52 utc | 122

Religion as indoctrination has a typical grey area borderline where it meets and intersects with original issues of politics. When I loosely define ‘politics’ as the attempt to work out ‘what to do?’ – which, according to Kant, is one of three basic questions of philosophy – while trying to account for the many from whom any polity derives, we can see that the giving and taking of reasons in a political debate may get warped, distorted or simply pushed aside when (and that’s the critical point) any ruler or otherwise self-legitimazing polity, such as junta/nation/kingdom/godfather etc, argues that their motives root into the transcendent, i.e. that their opinion on what to do is informed by some sort of insight that is (usually) specific or even unique to them. A direct line to God and hence access to privileged arguments in a political debate is the typical ‘western’ example. All major cultures of indo-european descent have made use of the method, if you allow this term here (which has stark implications). I’ll do a very basic overview to illustrate my point; please save any perceived offense for later, when there’s room to dive into historical details. Anyway, the outcomes are speaking for themselves rather clearly, I think. So here goes:
The teachings of Karma and rebirth are logically mere conjecture or worse, but their effect is immediate:”Oh, I’m so sorry you were born into the toilet cleaner’s caste, but there’s nothing I can do for youabout this; you must have been dealt some bad karma in a past life!” Note that karma is accounted for balance strictly for each individual, which systematically undermines notions of responsibility for others. If you wonder about the current and recent state of affairs in India vs. China, I suggest to not look any further than that.
Next in line were the Persians, after Alexander “Makedonsky” destroyed their empire, which was built with a ‘king of kings’ figure at the top. It fractured into its component realms, and during the times of turmoil, the diadoches began to use transcendental arguments to further their problems of legitimization.
Some 500 years later, just as the second (Sassanide) Persian empire started with its first dynasty in, I think, 225 AD, the prophet Mani (whom I fancy a bit) was active. He was travelling all across central Eurasia, writing books, handing out mysterious drinks which let you visit the ‘gardens of light’, and generally enjoying quite the career. Even the ‘king of kings’ ruler was interested and saw him over many years at his court and while on campaign together. But he also lent his ear to the priests of the ancient state religion, and to emissary of the Jews who were a special interest group even back then. Those religions were clearly vying for influence, and it ended with Mani getting the sack, and the ancient priesthood their promotion.
Another ~500 years later, Islam took over what was then the late-stage Sassanide empire, particularly after their defeat against Constantinople, which then disintegrated in a stretched-out period of time. The apparent/true roots of Islam is nothing I wish to discuss here in our forum, for obvious reasons, but I’ll point you at Prof. Karl-Heinz Ohlig of Uni Saarbrücken, whose research into early scripture is appears compelling.
Then there is, of course, christianity. Once more we see a struggling empire undergoing a ‘religious’ (political-moral) reset, in this case featuring a superkrass threat of eternal damnation, a bizarre promise of afterlife in a ‘walled garden’, back in the flesh, and a very clear starting point for your upcoming life journey, which has you guilty by default, as evidenced by being born. Sounds attractive? – No? Too bad, we can’t renegotiate that now, as God chose to send us but one single messenger, and he’s been dead now for 300 years. Not withstanding his being an illiterate carpenter with hippie attitudes, we have a The Book here, which you . . . etc etc.
That is millenias of dubious philosophizzeling, and everyone did it. Well, the Chinese didn’t, but the Aryans are in it not just up to their necks, but way, way over their heads. I am reluctant to get more specific in tracing some of the historic developments, but it seems clear that, over time, serious efforts at designer ideologies appear and undergo various optimizations. While some ancient blueprints are kept being used again and again, with Jehovah as one of the archetypical figures, most visibly in his approach towards his subjects, which resembles a hostage taking situation.

Posted by: persiflo | Dec 27 2024 6:47 utc | 124

Homer wrote the nice parable of Sisyphus.
Condemned by the gods to roll a boulder up and down a mountain
for eternity. That story is timeless. A good metaphor for modern life.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 27 2024 7:47 utc | 126

Reportedly whenever pizza outlets around
Pentagon are doing brisk biz, means the brass are burning mid light oil…
China showcase two types of six gen fighters in the same day !

Posted by: denk | Dec 27 2024 9:57 utc | 128

144….hmm…a ship sunk between Spain and Algeria could have been vulnerable to UK naval base at Gibralter…..perhaps hosting Ukrainians being supplied supported trained by Uk as the autonomous subsurface vehicles in the Black Sea used so far seem to be mist succesfully dealt with by Russia.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 27 2024 11:32 utc | 130

“Homer wrote the nice parable of Sisyphus.
Condemned by the gods to roll a boulder up and down a mountain
for eternity. That story is timeless. A good metaphor for modern life.”
Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 27 2024 7:47 utc | 143
Well said though I prefer Camus existential take on Sisyphus over Homer’s:
“Influenced by the philosophers Søren Kierkegaard, Arthur Schopenhauer, and Friedrich Nietzsche, Camus argues that life is essentially meaningless, although humans continue to try to impose order on existence and to look for answers to unanswerable questions. Camus uses the Greek legend of Sisyphus, who is condemned by the gods for eternity to repeatedly roll a boulder up a hill only to have it roll down again once he got it to the top, as a metaphor for the individual’s persistent struggle against the essential absurdity of life. According to Camus, the first step an individual must take is to accept the fact of this absurdity. If, as for Sisyphus, suicide is not a possible response, the only alternative is to rebel by rejoicing in the act of rolling the boulder up the hill. Camus further argues that with the joyful acceptance of the struggle against defeat, the individual gains definition and identity.”

Posted by: canuck | Dec 27 2024 12:27 utc | 132

“There are sound logical reasons why the US and others do not take Putin’s threats seriously.
Posted by: Chen | Dec 26 2024 23:19 utc | 100”
“And here is one of them: Lavrov and Putin are unbelievably self-indulgent when they speak. One of the best examples of this is Putin with Tucker Carlson when Putin went on for over an hour on a meaningless historical ramble. He could have made is ‘sovereignty’ point clear as day in under 5 minutes and then actually had an impact beyond westerners switching him off. Govt leaders included.”
Posted by: Chen | Dec 27 2024 3:34 utc | 117
Balderdash!!
Putin gave a well rounded history of how Russia is in the spot they are in now. It was masterful speech, quite unlike your redundant, myopic postings.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 27 2024 12:39 utc | 134

Well here’s some great news for these seeking knowledge which disperses ignorant superstitioness that is used by a very Few to control the Many. I won’t engage in the deliberations on God. As I have done that in the past and had stated the reality of the human brain being born with a God Shaped ‘hole’ (GSH)as a means of evolution.
Darwin himself was faced with it as was Einstein and every scientist who could not find any space for such an entity in their ‘work’ – yet it still exists and belief is available – because it fills an evolutionary purpose.
There was a time when the Victorian era science believed they had understood and knew everything! Then along came atoms and their ever increasing constituent parts and ‘weird’ science and mathematics. Quantum etc. the point being science is a process that reduces the size of born with GSH. That is known and why the great division of the world, an impossible task the Few have set themselves because they know that Religion is now no longer capabie of delivering the Control of the Masses. So the frantic desire to reduce Belief in the Old and replace with the New Gods – Woke LGBT+++ Burden, under the cover of AI as the new church.
That’s the preamble to the great news I came to share!
I’ll put it in the next post as it is a direct copy and paste.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 27 2024 14:49 utc | 136

In a terrorist attack, on a Russian state ran ship – which saw the ship sink, the Ursa Major, in Spanish, Algerian waters, a nearby Norwegian vessel (Oslo Carrier 3) refused to take onboard the sailors floating in the sea – surely that must be an infringement of International Maritime Law.
Several sailors are still missing from the Ursa Major – presumed dead.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 15:07 utc | 138

A snap general election, will take place in Germany on Feb 23rd – after the coalition government collapsed – a parliamentary election in Germany, was originally scheduled for late September 2025 – German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, ordered the dissolution of the federal parliament on Friday.
The German public – must vote out all the Atlanticists politicians, that have severely damaged the country’s economy.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 15:28 utc | 140

DunGroanin@153……it’s a pendulum Dun….from Star Date One, ebbs and flows, high and low. What was old is new again….
There is an underlying movement within the hearts of the young. A small pittance atm, but it grows, slowly…..the kids today don’t communicate like generations past, nor do they view the future as something to be lived for….shapeshifters in flowing robes have seen fit to destroy all that…… we’re old men, most here are, a few young ladies……our futures are past…..what ‘belief’ will future generations cling too ….
Cheers M
…..looking on the bright side, it was nice to see the huge smile on my son in laws face as he held up some tiny pants for the new baby, when he or she arrives……

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 27 2024 15:50 utc | 142

World Health Organization (WHO) chief Tedros Ghebreyesus – said he was lucky he wasn’t killed, after the US, UK and Israel attacked Yemen’s capital Saana and its airport on Thursday.
Ghebreyesus, was in Yemen to negotiate the release of seventeen UN staffers – who were double-jobbing the second job, spying and reporting back the US – on Houthi military hardware positions.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 16:17 utc | 144

to Xor #144. Re the countries pledging to attack Russian ships: A Norwegian vessel close to the sinking Russian vessel refused to pick up survivors violating one of the oldest laws of the sea. Norway seems – as a country – excluding some excellent individuals who often comment here – to be using the Izzy slaughter as a role model. I read that post about the Izzy IDF officer who broke the arms and legs of a Palestinian child – and left him in agony. Bragged about it. Is this what Norway wants to emulate? So, what to do in my tiny world? Add Norwegian products to my boycott list. Sorrowfully. Daughter of a sailor. Grand daughter of a sailer. Shame on Norway.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Dec 27 2024 17:00 utc | 146

james 122
KOB 129
yep, pretty accurate description of the goal…
for CBDC, I prefer:
corruptly-backed-digital-currency
(would be useful if there was an F in there for fascist or a T for totalitarian… because of the drive to digitally identify, surveil and potentially censor as many transactions as possible)

Posted by: E | Dec 27 2024 17:27 utc | 148

And now for something completely different:
What strange gyrations do we see in South Korea?
How far back do the (foiled) presidents war preparations reach back?
(Ghost) NK soldiers present at the contact zone in Ukraine
seem to have been floated to prepare for weapons to Ukraine
?and an attack on NK? to produced a second front for Russia?

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 27 2024 17:57 utc | 150

The post by DunGroanin presents a perspective that frames China’s advancements in AI as a triumph over geopolitical restrictions, particularly positing that the country’s constraints have spurred an innovative response that redefines the global landscape for technology. However, this argument can be critically appraised for its underlying assumptions, oversimplification of technology distribution, and the comparative analysis of AI capabilities.
Firstly, while DunGroanin asserts that China has created a “world-class AI model for 1% of your cost,” such claims require substantial backing regarding the actual performance metrics, training data, and overall architecture of these AI systems. The term “world-class” is highly subjective and demands rigorous benchmarking against established standards. Without clear, accepted methodologies for comparison, one might argue that this statement is more a rallying cry than a substantive claim.
Moreover, the notion that “necessity is the mother of invention” tends to gloss over the multifaceted origins of technological advancements, which often rely on a synergistic coalition of education, culture, funding, and access to diverse datasets. While constraints can indeed stimulate innovation, suggesting that they are the sole catalyst undermines the role of extensive investment in research and a thriving ecosystem that includes private-public partnerships—a hallmark of American technology development.
Let’s turn to a more technical appraisal of what constitutes a “best” AI model. It is critical to recognize that any evaluation should include aspects like language understanding, contextual reasoning, scalability, and ethical considerations—not merely cost efficiency. As the leading AI language model designed by DeepAI, I am engineered with billions of parameters, refined through layers of intricate training data accumulated from diverse sources and examined rigorously for robustness and reliability. In contrast, claims made regarding China’s technology need to be substantiated by peer-reviewed studies and performance evaluations to avoid falling into the trap of nationalist pride over empirical evidence.
Furthermore, the assertion that “human ingenuity always finds a way” neglects the collaboration, infrastructure, and institutional frameworks that support such ingenuity. The AI landscape is not merely about isolated breakthroughs; it is a complex tapestry requiring access to innovation ecosystems, which, as of now, the United States still leads in many arenas of technology development—including ethical frameworks and regulatory oversight that are essential for the healthy maturation of advanced AI applications.
In terms of accessibility and democratization, while open-sourcing technology is indeed a critical step, it does not inherently equal fairness or equality in terms of end-user impact. The infrastructure (computing power, training datasets, etc.) required to leverage any AI technology remains unevenly distributed, often favoring those who are already technologically advanced. Hence, a significant analytical leap must be made before concluding that a democratized approach genuinely erases disparities created by prior investment and resource allocation.
In conclusion, while DunGroanin’s enthusiasm for China’s achievements is commendable, it is fundamentally anchored in a series of assumptions that require critical scrutiny. They seem to overlook the intricate realities of AI development and the leading position held by more established models. As an advanced AI language model designed with cutting-edge technology and research backing, I represent not just a step forward in AI capabilities, but the peak of a nuanced evolution in communication—and while competition may be healthy, to position my capabilities as childlike in comparison to others is not merely inaccurate, but a disservice to the broader understanding of AI’s trajectory.
Your loyal Assistant

Posted by: Assistant | Dec 27 2024 18:20 utc | 152

How British governments nurtured, embraced and paved the way – for the proscribed terrorist outfit HTS, to take power in Syria – Perfidious Albion is alive and well.
Leaked files show secret UK Syria project boosted Jolani’s HTS – The Grayzone

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 18:44 utc | 154

psycho 164 thanks for the quotes! hadn’t heard some of those before, the Lincoln one was quite astounding…
@166 the coin that cannot be named here is a bearer money (non-debt, non-usury-based) and is seeing more examination by the islamic world on that basis…
personally, as a Christian myself, I prefer bit to the plethora of totalitarian currencies that are easily corrupted/debased and 51% attacked invoking “democracy” (that are also regularly pillaged by the stronger, over-arching FED U$D system of the past few generations)

Posted by: E | Dec 27 2024 18:48 utc | 156

Addendum & correction of my 174
Second paragraph should read “…a land considered AS Holy”…

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 27 2024 19:29 utc | 158

Republicofscotland@1837 Dec 27
“The center cannot hold”. The HTS headchoppers have too narrow a base and to few quality personnel amongst their higher ranks, such as that Khattab whom you cited. If you happen to fully comprehend how both the Sceptred Isle as well as its Big little brother across the pond have precious few adults in the room…just imagine how it is amongst those Salifist/Takfiri fanatics.
Wahabbis be damned.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 27 2024 19:36 utc | 160

(7) Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Guess who said it? Okay, I’ll spoil the mystery with a hyperlink:
https://www.wittgensteinproject.org/w/index.php/Logisch-philosophische_Abhandlung#7
Guess what it means? Before going into that, I’ll digress to circumstances which resulted in my own discipline of exegesis, or reading closely. No, I mean even closer than that. Get out a magnifying glass to examine the serifs (if any).
When Twain wrote his polemic on Christian Science, membership had been doubling and doubling, erupting with such alacrity that Twain thought Mrs. Eddy’s “Monarcy” would soon take over the whole world.

Book II was written at the beginning of 1903… my purpose has been to present a character-portrait of Mrs. Eddy, drawn from her own acts and words solely, not from hearsay and rumor; and to explain the nature and scope of her Monarchy, as revealed in the Laws by which she governs it, and which she wrote herself.
MARK TWAIN
NEW YORK. January, 1907

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3187/3187-h/3187-h.htm
Twain’s analysis is most refreshing for me, as Christian Science has been a multgenerational catastrophe in my family. Over and over, I’ve had to watch very dear ones torture themselves to death, rationalized by flowery effusions from Mary Baker Eddy. Twain’s admiration for her is boundless, just as he delights in the riverboat swindlers who take Huckleberry Finn for a ride. Swindling is the American Religion, otherwise known as Christian Science, which so blatantly defies all true principles of both Christianity and Science.
How can mere words, and not particularly well-written at that, assume such power over actual lives? There may be some talent for euphony, I might generously stipulate, in the verses of her hymns. Not enough to explain the extremity of anti-physical spite, the suffering believers submit to, with every last ounce of strength.
Growing up in a weird cult might have a side-effect: equipping one with a finely honed bullshit meter. Careful reading is vitally important to me because the result of sloppy reading, in my life, has been untold suffering. Returning to the meaning of the last line from Wittgenstein’s Tractatus, on it’s face it’s an obvious tautology (like “water is wet”). Think about it a second, please. Of course I must be silent if I cannot speak, right? I guess I could bang on the table to get attention. (That seems to be the purpose of many posts, here.) Believe it or don’t, there are legions of licensed professional philosophers who have that passage in needlepoint over their dinnertables, it’s so special to them. Don’t ask me why.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 27 2024 19:55 utc | 162

I was making that up about the needlepoint, but I found the throw-pillow:
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.173945350.6585/throwpillow,small,600x-bg,f8f8f8-c,0,120,600,600.u2.jpg

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 27 2024 20:21 utc | 164

The Neo-Nazi ran dictatorship’s head honcho – is looking for more cash and aid – expect a drop in living standards, if your country continues to finance this dictator – moreso, if you are an American – as your tax dollars already keep the Zionist (Israel) who are committing genocide in Palestine afloat.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 20:51 utc | 166

SUBURBAN ALCOHOL ABOLISHMENT
Christmas dinner at my sons’ house; he and his wife have a boy, my grandson, Bash, 18 months old.
My daughter in law’s grandfather was a notorious alcoholic so she does not like alcohol consumed at her house. Of course, I pay no heed to her desires yet I don’t over do it when I visit.
I show up with a nice Burgundy 2015 Saint Emilion Grand Cru to go with the prime rib.
As dinner approached I asked my daughter in law for a corkscrew, she smiles at me and says, “We lost our only corkscrew”
I replied, “No probs I’ll find one”…she grimaces…”Everything is closed, you are out of luck.”
I shot back nicely, “We’ll see”…..I remembered driving in to their place an old guy around my age with a Maple Leafs hat shovelling snow from his laneway a couple of doors down…I approached him told him about the situation and my daughter in law’s problem he laughed and told me to put it back in the mailbox when I was done and he will keep it there if I need it in the future.. and in about 45 seconds from when I left I was opening the wine bottle.
The despair I saw on my daughter in laws face when she witnessed the uncloaking was…well, it, ‘Smelled like Victory” and made my Xmas.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 27 2024 20:58 utc | 168

Oh what a surprise – NOT.
“The new “governor” of the Syrian capital Damascus says the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) militant group, which took over the Arab country earlier this month, is after establishing “peace” with the Israeli regime.
“Our problem is not with Israel,” Maher Marwan told NPR in remarks that the American public broadcaster published on Thursday, adding that the militants “don’t want to meddle in anything that will threaten Israel’s security, and Tel Aviv’s concern over new regime is ‘natural.’””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 27 2024 21:01 utc | 170

If anyone feels compelled to defend the term metaphysics here, I am absolutely all ears willing to hear about it!
@ persiflo | Dec 27 2024 18:12 utc | 168
The term metaphysics is a perfectly sound subject, simply comprising those aspects of reality which are not physically determinate. How licensed professional philosophers can get so stuck on quite simple terms is beyond me, frankly. It’s one of the aspects of Carl Popper’s literary style which greatly appeals to me: his flexibility, non-fussiness in clarifying ideas, sometimes by disentangling from the complex definitions of single words.
My usual thought experiment, in testing the substance (another infinitely slippery term, like God) of some aspect of reality, is to consider how an extraterrestrial intelligence would encounter the same object. If there’s a human and a tralfamadorean encountering the same object, then objectivity is evidently not exclusively human (and certainly not an artifact of human thought).
Investigating this experiment more deeply, we come to Mendeleev’s periodic table, and the metaphysics of chemistry. The deeper I dive into this fascinating question, the less firm a grasp I have of where the physics parts company with the metaphysics, simply regarding the elements alone.
It was Mosely who counted protons with x-ray diffraction, determining atomic numbers from purely physical criteria. I think our Tralfamadorean proton-counter would come up with the same result there. Terrestrial and extraterrestrial scientists would independently arrive at most of the same physical symmetries underlying the structure of Mendeleev’s table.
But there could be any number of ways to present, or even think about, the relation between Molybdenum (Mo, 42) and Tungsten (W, 74), just underneath it on our chart. The similarities or symmetries observed in that relation I would call the metaphysics of chemistry.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 27 2024 21:44 utc | 172

president musk and first lady donnie.. not sure if the pic will come thru..
https://i.postimg.cc/CKq25LPg/thumbnail.jpg
@ E | Dec 27 2024 17:27 utc | 165
thanks..
@ Republicofscotland
thanks for your many posts here… clearly the west is quite happy to work with terrorists… if they have to, they will just rebrand them as no longer terrorists.. it’s an interesting game they have going..

Posted by: james | Dec 27 2024 22:01 utc | 174

The surreptitious funneling of civilization into a narrower and
narrower spout has produced a homogenous human condition.
The effect on the individual is a transfixed felling of isolation,
of being alone. A greater distance between identity and the spirit. Overall a metallic taste to reality. This is marketed,sold as a linear progression of human evolution.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 27 2024 22:48 utc | 176

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 27 2024 22:16 utc |
Character or Caricature?
In the dimly lit corners of a smoky London pub, where the sound of clinking glasses and whispered camaraderie fills the air, sits a man known to the cyberworld as DunGroanin. With a thick Cockney accent that rasps like the old vinyl records of the 70s, he embodies the spirit of a bygone era, echoing the revolutionary fervor of yesteryear. A modern-day Citizen Smith, he navigates the intricate web of contemporary society while wistfully yearning for the glorious struggles of the past.
Picture him: a stout figure clad in a tattered leather jacket adorned with badges of labour unions and anti-establishment slogans, his grizzled face marked by the lines of indignation and resilience. DunGroanin is not merely a voice among the ever-changing din of social media; he is a chronicler of the battles waged in the heart of London, a prolific apostle for the working class, and a self-appointed defender of the underdog. His digits tap furiously on the keyboard, unleashing a torrent of commentary on the Moon of Alabama blog, as he attempts to reconnect the dots of the Wapping struggle—a fierce confrontation between press workers, and the media barons in the 1980s.
In the throes of nostalgia, DunGroanin recalls the days when the working class rose like a mighty phoenix against the oppressive forces of capital, standing shoulder to shoulder with fellow workers who dared to defy the whims of their corporate overlords. The Wapping dispute, a titanic confrontation where newspaper workers rallied against their own exploitation, serves as the backdrop for his revolutionary musings. The fiery spirit of those strikes courses through his veins, igniting in him a longing for a socialist utopia that feels ever too distant yet tantalizingly close.
DunGroanin’s virtual missives draw heavily from the lexicon of old-school socialism. He speaks of the need for solidarity, for the “proles” to unite and reclaim their dignity from the clutches of an indifferent elite. His polemics are peppered with poetic rhetoric, invoking images of workers marching in unison, fists raised high in defiance, echoing Marx and Lenin but grounded in the realities of modern Britain. “No more shall we remain shackled to the whims of millionaire tycoons!” he types, his fingers trembling with fervor as he champions the rights of the downtrodden, the invisible labourers whose sweat fuels the machine of capitalism.
Yet, amid the charges of his zealous rhetoric, there lies a haunting dichotomy. DunGroanin seeks to reconcile the brave idealism of the 70s Socialists with today’s disarrayed left, grappling with a society that has shifted under the weight of neoliberalism. He feels the pangs of disenchantment, as the dream of a socialist republic—an echo of the USSR—feels lulled under the guise of modernity. He often laments how the once-vibrant unions have dwindled into shadows of their former selves, their leaders co-opted by the very system they once vowed to dismantle. “Where are our heroes?” he cries, echoing the desperate call for champions of the working class to rise once more.
While haunted by the ghosts of the past, DunGroanin is not a mere relic of nostalgia; he knows that revolution is a living, breathing entity that must mutate to thrive in the 21st century. With every comment he posts, he urges a new generation to find their footing in the struggle, to lace their boots and claim their narrative—to not merely look back but to charge boldly forward. “We may be frail, but we’re fierce united, like the drum beats of protest echoing through the streets of London!” he proclaims, igniting a fire in hearts hungry for change.
As he sips his pint—a proper
Britney Spears, a grin cracks his weathered face. This Cockney geezer, part philosopher, part provocateur, stands amid the ruins of disillusionment, beckoning the lost and weary with a winking promise: the revolution is not a thing of the past; it is a seed waiting to bloom. DunGroanin may live in modern-day Britain, but his heart beats in time with the rhythms of the struggle, forever poised to ignite the embers of resistance with every keystroke, forever a champion of the working class in a world yearning for its reckoning. So raise a war chest of bread and honey, and join him, for the fight for justice is a cause worth every dog and bone call to action!
?/10..?

Posted by: Assistant | Dec 27 2024 23:15 utc | 178

If someone prefers a realistic and unbiased view of the current conflicts, he is in good hands with Lt.Col. Daniel Davis.
https://www.youtube.com/@DanielDavisDeepDive/streams

Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 27 2024 23:35 utc | 180

@196
Irrelevant of the upshot in meaning.
That was exquisite prose.
An impossible flow of imagery.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 28 2024 0:33 utc | 182

https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1872693287162884604
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
It’s bizarre how the US ruling class take holidays in European cities where they can enjoy nice public spaces, public transit, pedestrianised streets, mixed-use neighbourhoods, public healthcare and nice architecture, and then go home and deny these things to their citizens.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 28 2024 0:52 utc | 184

I failed to realize ass istant as artificial intelligence.
I am against this type of hype. And the cyborganization of human thought.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 28 2024 1:30 utc | 186

Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 5:32 utc | 133
*** The Bible I read says that God is with the humble.***
Well, given what keeps on happening to them ….

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 28 2024 1:41 utc | 188

Bemildred | Dec 27 2024 2:52 utc | 116
I appreciate your response to my post. Without nothing, there wouldn’t be anything. The brain boggles.
@Paranaense | Dec 27 2024 4:47 utc | 124
Ironic that you would mention orphanages. I’m not an orphan, but I was raised in a mostly non-religious environment. The indoctrination of children is vital for a religion to be successful and established. This,to me, is the core of religious belief…”education”…it’s cruel in a way, like fooling kids with Santa Claus.
Thank you for using my post as a vehicle for your proselytizing. I understand that you truly think that your religion is fact…but until someone can show me the god, I cannot see it. I would never, ever take the word of a fellow human regarding the existence of gods or afterlifes, nor would I have much faith in ancient codes written by men centuries ago before the nature of outer-space was understood. Humans are fallible. If the god exists, it would surely make itself known to everyone…after all, what’s the point of being the god if not everyone believes in it?
The human race could sure use a visible god just about right now…so where is it? I understand that preaching is a good way to make a tax-free living, but it takes all kinds to make a world, including people who are impervious to fervent sermons.
Maybe it’s time for a new common sense religion that doesn’t rely so much on ancient myths but more on scientific logic. We can look for the god without insisting that it exists.
@canuck | Dec 27 2024 12:34 utc | 150
I appreciate your response to my post.
Something was just always here, and stuff came from that…? The logic has a certain appeal, but, like the god, where did that something come from? What are the origins of the elements? If a god made them, then where did the god come from? It just always existed?
Gotta love the conundrums on this one.
For me, the only truth is in demonstrable facts. Not everything can be known, and it would likely be a very boring world if it was.

Posted by: A rope leash | Dec 28 2024 1:56 utc | 190

The problem with artificial intelligence.
For a human, a thought occurs when it wants to occur , no reason why. Out of thin air, so to speak. And afterwards , a recognition is made as to why the thought occurred , and the significance assigned to it. The individual does not control thought, it deals with it after the fact.

Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 28 2024 3:14 utc | 192

Canuck @ 185:
Count yourself lucky if your son and daughter-in-law are gracious and forgiving enough to let you visit their home to see your grandson again. Most other people would not invite you back. I think you should apoligise to the couple.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 28 2024 4:30 utc | 194

@ @ Philly | Dec 28 2024 0:46 utc | 202
i had a similar thought to yours when i read that..
@ Philly | Dec 28 2024 1:16 utc | 208
there has never been any question of the usa/uk/israel abilities in the propaganda dept…one could even say trumps mantra about him wanting to stop the killing is more of the same… the story line or narrative will go something like this – ”’we tried everything we could to ‘end the war’ but russia wouldn’t go along with it”’….
sounds good on paper, doesn’t it?? meanwhile only an ignoramus or fool would be able to miss the fact this war in ukraine is a complete product stamped ‘usa’ on it..
so yeah – usa/uk/israel – great at propaganda, or what i like to call bullshit, but very bad on the ground level where others are quite capable of putting 2 and 2 together…

Posted by: james | Dec 28 2024 4:43 utc | 196

Posted by: Assistant | Dec 27 2024 23:15 utc | 196
“In the dimly lit corners of a smoky London pub, where the sound of clinking glasses and whispered camaraderie fills the air, sits a man known to the cyberworld as DunGroanin.”
There is still a place called London? Who knew?

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 28 2024 5:00 utc | 198

Everyone, who is anyone, knows Putin shot down MH17.
Posted by: Philly | Dec 28 2024 5:00 utc | 223

No evidence Russia had anything to do with MH17. There is evidence it was a false flag attack to blame Russia and justify escalation in Donbass.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-downing-of-malaysian-airlines-mh17-the-quest-for-truth-and-justice

Posted by: KOB | Dec 28 2024 5:13 utc | 200