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December 18, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-302
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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conversation with richard werner on banking from 6 years ago for anyone interested.. Posted by: james | Dec 18 2024 17:32 utc | 1 more – Posted by: james | Dec 18 2024 17:47 utc | 2 December 18, 2024 Posted by: Ed | Dec 18 2024 17:58 utc | 3 Watching CBC news, it looks like the ‘Maidan coup’ being led by Christia against Trudeau in the Canadian Liberal Party is proceeding according to plan. I’m waiting to see the cookies. Posted by: dh-mtl | Dec 18 2024 18:01 utc | 4 @ dh-mtl | Dec 18 2024 18:01 utc | 4 Posted by: james | Dec 18 2024 18:11 utc | 5 I haven’t managed to finish reading various threads but I have noticed what looks (to me) like a lot of different mistaken assumptions considering potential new technology used for Oreshnik kinetic warheads. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 18 2024 18:17 utc | 6 Scott Ritter recent video with Dima he starts yelling at Dima that Iran either starts a new nuclear inspection program or gets nuked. Since Ritter is always wrong about everything I take this with a grain of salt. Ritter frequently starts yelling at the comments during live Videos. His passport has never been returned and he is increasingly unhinged. This newest “perspective” is a apparent hope that the Trump administration wont throw him into irons for being a unregistered Russian agent. A new nuclear inspection treaty would be a immediate feather in Trumps cap vindicating his unilateral exit of the JCPOA treaty. In this newest video Ritter a tale where he threatens ” if you dont im looking at a dead man” as a correct diplomatic technique and in reference to Iran. When Dima expressed disbelief that Iran would be told what to do is when Ritter started yelling “they have no choice”. Nice Scott. Overpowering the softspoken Dima with yelling speaks to a imaturity to me, Scott sees it as “marine strength”. Habitually thats how Scott solves things when his opinion is questioned. At one point I found his arrogance amusing but no longer. Dimas soft intelligence and openess to truth is so much more powerful than Ritters thugish outbursts. He totally missed the point or intentionally ignored one of Dimas question which was whether Trump really has the power to create peace using the militarys refusal to withdraw from Stria as a example. Scott just started a discourse about Syria not the topic of the question. Everything is the Scott Ritter show for Scott. Of course who am I to judge. A nobody from nowhere. Rittter is what he is. It is what it is. Posted by: Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 7 Oops, very bad typo! Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 18 2024 18:27 utc | 8 I have spent the last few months in a rabbit hole trying to find evidence that Turkey was couped by a group of FreeMasons and Zionists under the CUP, rather than a group of mainstream Turks as it is protrayed. While there isnt a great deal of information on the topic, the more I dig, the more I find. For instance, one commenter said that the Armenians and Jews were rivals to banking and commerce in the Ottoman Empire. The Sultan preferred the Armenians, but the CUP preferred Zionists and coincientally, the CUP is the party that is responsible for the Armenian Genocide. Meanwhile, last week, Erdogan makes it clear to the entire world that he is siding with the Zionists to destroy resistence to the genocide of the Palastinians, who are Sunni, the very people Erdogan publicly claims he represents. I find the Zionist coup of Turkey is spoken about much more frequently within Muslim circles than with the secular, Western Turks who are up in arms at any suggestions that Ataturk wasn’t God incarnate. Since reality changed last week and provided more evidence of my suspicions, I wonder if this topic will get any more traction then the usual shrug. Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 18 2024 18:35 utc | 9 “Missing a zero can be dangerous :)” Posted by: Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:36 utc | 10 On Fred’s comment (btw Fred as in the name or as in the Scandinavian word for peace?), I feel confident that: Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 18 2024 18:39 utc | 11 Posted by: Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 7 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 18 2024 18:42 utc | 12 @ Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 7 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 18:43 utc | 13 Fred wins his inaugural ,”The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today:” for this silly drivel: @ Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 7 Some European and Nato countries love Neo-Nazi’s. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 18 2024 18:56 utc | 16 @ canuck | Dec 18 2024 18:51 utc | 15 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 17 My analysis of the possibility of war directly between Russia, China or Iran given the EurAsian land basis of the anti-imperial coalition and neutral forces, together with the new nature of war. EurAsia and the New Nature of War Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 18 2024 19:10 utc | 18 https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/world-affairs/one-day-theyll-wake-up-bob-minor/ Posted by: mjh | Dec 18 2024 19:39 utc | 19 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 18:57 utc | 17 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 18 2024 19:47 utc | 20 Why There Won’t Be a Nuremberg 2.0 Posted by: NH | Dec 18 2024 20:06 utc | 21 @malenkov | Dec 18 2024 18:43 utc | 13 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 20:25 utc | 22 @ Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 20:25 utc | 22 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 20:30 utc | 23 LoL @Norwegian – so both posts by malenkov and canuck were not retarded enough 🙂 Posted by: persiflo | Dec 18 2024 20:36 utc | 24 Going to sleep! (Hopefully) 😀 Posted by: PalmaSailor | Dec 18 2024 20:43 utc | 25 @malenkov | Dec 18 2024 20:30 utc | 23 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 18 2024 20:51 utc | 26 But the response was correct anyway, if redundant. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 20:56 utc | 27 So, in currency terms, how many Dimas to the Nima??? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 21:00 utc | 28 Only 28 posts and already I’ve walked in on a bar brawl. Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 18 2024 21:21 utc | 29 US central bankers rug pulled their bubble market today, Posted by: PubliusFlavius | Dec 18 2024 21:24 utc | 30 @ Patroklos | Dec 18 2024 21:21 utc | 29 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 18 2024 21:36 utc | 31 Nabiullina said Russia has an imbalance of supply and demand. Russia don’t have what they need and have too much of what they can’t sell. Posted by: Pcostix | Dec 18 2024 21:42 utc | 32 how many Dimas to the Nima??? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 18 2024 21:50 utc | 33 Considering the83rd anniversary of pearl harbour I thought some might be interested in this story. On 19th nov 1941 the HMAS Sydney was sunk of the coast of Western Australia.The official version was that she was told of a German raider in the area the Kormoran , sailed up to an unidentified ship and was sunk with all hands lost. The Kormoran was damaged and scuttled with 386survivors Whenever an Aus. Ship was sunk there was a royal commission within a year or so Sydney had to wait for 60 years. When they finally found both ships in2008 the bow of Sydney was blown off. There always rumours of a jap sub involved and not long after a jap sub was sunk of Darwin in the royal commission for the Sydney in2001 a submission was made that 5 nations were involved in the coverup Germany Japan USA Aust and of course England .I think most people here know that Pearl Harbour had to happen .Another submission was that the original captain Collins went to Japan after the war hoping to find survivors.As for the German crew they became POWs but near the end of the war they tried to escape fearing they would be tried as war criminals as2 Farley floats were found with bullet holes in them also one dead sailor. The only ones who know the truth were the German crew ,maybe a relative of the crew could con firm what happened ,noillfeelings from this end as terrible things happen in war. Posted by: Q-lander | Dec 18 2024 22:21 utc | 34 @ Aleph_Null | Dec 18 2024 21:50 utc | 33 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 18 2024 22:22 utc | 35 FWIW I don’t hold either of Helmer or Doctorow in particularly high regard; both of them can bring some genuinely useful new perspectives to absorb, but equally both of them featherbed the nuggets among copious amounts of speculative waffle and wibble; sure, many of us do the same but at least I’m not trying to make a living out of it… Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 18 2024 22:32 utc | 36 Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 18 2024 18:42 utc | 12 Posted by: Ed | Dec 18 2024 22:39 utc | 37 Posted by: Fred | Dec 18 2024 18:22 utc | 7 Posted by: Ed | Dec 18 2024 22:47 utc | 38 I guarantee you that behind the scenes Chabad Putin is coordinating with the Israelis in their attacks on Syria, giving them all the required info. When you look at it, you can see that Putin’s only REAL objective in Syria has been to protect the genocidal Zionist entity. Posted by: Jason | Dec 19 2024 0:13 utc | 39 @ jason Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 0:55 utc | 40 Canada’s current political issues stem from the need to collapse the government and get the Conservatives in power before the polling data changes or the Con leader gets a foot stuck in his mouth. It is entirely generated by the legacy media, i.e. top down. Posted by: jayc | Dec 19 2024 0:55 utc | 41 Putin is a graduate of Klaus Schwab’s “Global Leaders for Tomorrow” program (now renamed the Forum of Young Global Leaders), launched in 1992 and associated with the WEF*. At one time, members of this structure, in addition to Putin, included Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, Bill Gates, Amazon founder and until recently the richest man on earth Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, and many other politicians, media and business leaders. Posted by: joie de vivre | Dec 19 2024 1:30 utc | 42 @Posted by: jayc | Dec 19 2024 0:55 utc | 41 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 19 2024 1:36 utc | 43 James @ 2, Jayc @ 41, Roger Boyd @ 43: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 1:47 utc | 44 Some things never change, I guess, and wonder what malenkov would say. Anyway, here’s Posted by: persiflo | Dec 19 2024 1:51 utc | 45 Pcostix | Dec 18 2024 21:42 utc | 32 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2024 1:54 utc | 46 @ Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 1:47 utc | 44 Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 2:01 utc | 47 @Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 1:47 utc | 44 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Dec 19 2024 2:03 utc | 48 Aurelien gives an excellent critique of the west:
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/the-year-of-failing-to-understand Posted by: NotEinstein | Dec 19 2024 2:04 utc | 49 my friend told me jagmeet singh is waiting for his pension to kick in february 2025, so he will hold off voting no confidence in trudeau at least until he gets his pension… i don’t know if that is true, but if so, don’t expect a no confidence vote until after this important date for jagmeet! that is what qualifies for leadership here in canada.. it’s quite despicable.. Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 2:05 utc | 50 Well that’s an interesting barking Ritter with Nima. Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 19 2024 2:13 utc | 51 Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 18 2024 21:21 utc | 29 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 19 2024 2:21 utc | 52 Hello Jason, Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 19 2024 2:24 utc | 54 @ Jon_in_AU Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 19 2024 2:35 utc | 55 Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 19 2024 2:35 utc | 55 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 19 2024 3:07 utc | 56 Patroklos @ 29: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 4:58 utc | 58 Everything is as it should be. The awkward dislocation, the stations of comfort, refinement and certainty. Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 19 2024 5:56 utc | 59 Thanks in advance for any sources of pertinent information you could suggest. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 19 2024 6:01 utc | 60 Trump’s ’51st State’ Trolling Aimed At Putting Canada ‘Off Balance’ Says Expert Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 19 2024 7:06 utc | 61 @63 Posted by: Middle-man | Dec 19 2024 7:57 utc | 62 I noticed in my daily email from Telesur that they reported on the election of the German PM: “Germany: PM Kretschmer re-elected in Saxony” … it’s just that that’s kind of out of the region Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 19 2024 10:16 utc | 63 Jon in AU @ 52: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 10:45 utc | 64 Further to my comment @ 66, Romans apparently slathered their food in a salty sauce made from fermented fish guts, and it is likely that acids from such a sauce could react with lead glazing on dishes to form compounds that might end up being ingested. Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 10:54 utc | 65 Somaliland to host US military base – and in return Somaliland will receive international recognition as a country – its not for just one country (USA) to say that, right – Somaliland is a country because we say so – yet US minions will fall in line with what the USA tells them to. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 19 2024 11:00 utc | 66 Good morning from London. Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 19 2024 11:11 utc | 67 Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 10:45 utc | 66 Posted by: Badjoke | Dec 19 2024 11:13 utc | 68 Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 10:54 utc | 67 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 19 2024 11:31 utc | 69 Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2024 10:54 utc | 67 Posted by: Passerby | Dec 19 2024 11:32 utc | 70 This is not about plumb, but it should be noted from a medical and archaeological point of view that this Roman fish sauce was of such inferior quality that a large part of the population of the Roman Empire at the time was infested with parasitic fish worms. Perhaps someone who knows something about this can comment. Posted by: guest from franconia | Dec 19 2024 11:50 utc | 71 Putin is a graduate of Klaus Schwab’s “Global Leaders for Tomorrow” program (now renamed the Forum of Young Global Leaders), launched in 1992 and associated with the WEF*. Not sure if already mentioned here, apologies if so. Posted by: Friend_of_MLK | Dec 19 2024 12:03 utc | 73 Like any lazy socialist you spend other people’s Intellectual capital. Some things never change, I guess, and wonder what malenkov would say. Anyway, here’s my argument another Eurodance video: Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2024 12:58 utc | 75 a large part of the population of the Roman Empire at the time was infested with parasitic fish worms. Perhaps someone who knows something about this can comment. Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2024 13:05 utc | 76 To the illiterate at 12:06 utc: Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2024 13:09 utc | 77 10 year stubbornly above 4.5% Posted by: Exile | Dec 19 2024 13:41 utc | 78 “Axis of Evil” is back.
Posted by: librul | Dec 19 2024 13:44 utc | 79 Salaam,Philly-@61, do reference Einstein here – “There are two things that are infinte human stupidity and the universe,and I’m not so sure about the universe.” In this the digital age of monetisation stupidity is highly contagious.”joi de vivre” gotta getta life. Posted by: 4q8 | Dec 19 2024 13:55 utc | 80 I see malenkov is throwing a pearl in the general direction of the illiterate, and a proper one at that. That would be the pearl I’m talking about, of course; that’s a big, fat, shiny one for you guys — Posted by: persiflo | Dec 19 2024 13:55 utc | 81 Salaam, republicofscotland@68- yeah do not forget the exceptional ones recognized Kosovo too as an Independent state.The Serbs don’t🤫 Posted by: 4q8 | Dec 19 2024 14:02 utc | 82 @ persiflo | Dec 19 2024 13:55 utc | 83 Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2024 14:05 utc | 83 33, 42, 11. I continue to be troubled by the part played by Russia in Syria. Doctorow on Nima recently asserted that Russia’s interest in Syria which led it to enter in 2015 to help the Assad regime to defeat IS, did not extend beyond that goal. To defeat the jihadist HTS movement in Dec. 2024 was no longer it’s purpose. Earlier, Russia had considered IS to be a threat to its own territorial integrity. It didn’t care about Syria beyond that country’s being a theater to fight the jihadists; entering another country for this reason being perfectly legitimate that Russia had no responsibility toward Syria. So basically just used Syria as the theater of the war, at a distance from its own territory. Which is just fine, says Doctorow. In my search to know more about Russia’s role in recent events in Syria, having mentioned commentaries by Gilbert Doctorow and Laith Marouf on what Russia did or should have done, there was this revelation by John Helmer in “Dances With Bears,” where I understood him to have said, the Russian military General Staff gave the OK to Putin’s wish not to send air support to Syria (even though Iran’s Revolutionary Guards were mobilized to enter Syria), if Putin would authorize heavy bombing of Ukraine’s electric infrastructure. guest from franconia | Dec 19 2024 2:35 utc | 55 …. Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2024 15:34 utc | 86 Karl Kraus’ joke is dead serious; that why it’s so funny. You don’t need to step into lawfare to observe the problem (indeed it could be argued that such would diminish the point) – and this problem is of an almost archetypical nature for the famous remark by Nietzsche about the Abgrund staring back at, or even ‘into’ you. In fact, it’s true what Kraus is hinting at, if somewhat overdone to good but grotesque effect: meticulous rigour in grammar and speech directly translates into rigorous thought, and thence into reason of ethics. Posted by: persiflo | Dec 19 2024 16:08 utc | 87 The Trump regime went after the Myanmar junta in its first term,
The ‘sheriff’ always get its man !
PS Posted by: denk | Dec 19 2024 16:16 utc | 88 … Today, the dictators and oligarchs have the MSM and Wikipedia to control the thoughts and direct the interest of the citizens that they rule over … Posted by: sunof27 | Dec 19 2024 16:23 utc | 89 @ sunof27 | Dec 19 2024 16:23 utc | 92 Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 16:25 utc | 90 BREAKING: A new provision in the latest CR lets Congress block subpoenas for House data, including emails, potentially preventing any investigation into the J6 Committee… Posted by: Carl | Dec 19 2024 16:52 utc | 91 Chinadaily
Posted by: denk | Dec 19 2024 17:01 utc | 92 Putin is a lawyer. How did he reason on the downfall of Syria? Perhaps he opted to switch one bad deed for another: rather than creating his own local auxiliaries and throw them against the tentacles of empire, he let Syria come down by simply standing aside, expecting the fruit to be a poison for the new owners of the land. It’s quite the allegory here: those religious nuts aren’t too well-versed in critique of scripture anyhow, as one might think …
Russia achieved its goals in Syria – Putin Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 19 2024 17:11 utc | 93 @ denk | Dec 19 2024 17:01 utc | 95 Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 17:13 utc | 94 Posted by: james | Dec 19 2024 17:13 utc | 97 Posted by: denk | Dec 19 2024 17:51 utc | 95 Rohingya Muslims: Expendable Pawns on Geo-Political Chessboard. Posted by: denk | Dec 19 2024 18:17 utc | 96 Iran, Turkiye lead call for ‘Islamic unity’ against Israeli crimes at D-8 summit in Egypt
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 19 2024 18:20 utc | 97 – A TRULY Excellent short video about the colonial past of the socalled Levant & Middle East. Posted by: WMG | Dec 19 2024 18:38 utc | 98 – The EU is “worried” about syrian refugees seeking asylum in Europe: Posted by: WMG | Dec 19 2024 18:52 utc | 99 bREaking,
Meanwhile,… Posted by: denk | Dec 19 2024 19:11 utc | 100 |
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