RE: Posted by: Salmon | Nov 30 2024 14:11 utc | 187
“Thanks for a good post. You are right.
Europe was never so united against Russia.
Russia is in a terrible situation.
Only a pre emptive strike could change this.”
You are the same poster on the Open Palestine thread that claimed “Israel” “won” and Hezbollah was just picking up their marbles and going home.
And here you claim Russia’s “terrible situation”, with their hands down unbeatable, indefensible weapon of mass destruction that is non-nuclear and could wipe the whole of EU in one hour, and suggest Russia needs to “pre-emp” a bunch of euro barking dogs because of their “terrible situation”…
I see who you are.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 30 2024 15:11 utc | 203

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 30 2024 15:18 utc | 205
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Being scared and intimidated by Trump plays into his hands.
Oz pointing its nukes at China is funny to me.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 15:32 utc | 205

*** Now all the American bases across Australias north will have nukes pointed at China so now there will be many Chinese and Russian ICBM’s with Australian coordinates programed in. Prior to that, any nuke strike may have been limited to the long running CIA/Pentagon base at Pine Gap.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 30 2024 15:18 utc | 205
Well stated existing calculus. There is a new factor, however. Much like how hypersonic technology has made carriers obsolete, I am tending to believe that Oreshnik type technology makes tripwire bases obsolete. They can be destroyed without actual physical occupation or nuclear strikes. Will the US cavalry really rush in and under what circumstances is the ultimate question.
Governments that are not fully captured will view tripwire bases as a liability, much like Călin Georgescu in Romaina. The vote nullifying forces are in overdrive there, so I surmise Georgescu is really over the target.
The other side of the same coin is whether the “west” has enough to still buy Romainian suzerainty. So are tripwire bases that can be turned into swiss cheese worth the trouble anymore?
I also surmise that such Jedi mind tricks will not be enough to a hold back trend that will act like a tide. We shall see

Posted by: frithguild | Nov 30 2024 15:39 utc | 207

LoveDonbass@202
“Russia holds Trump’s cards.” Thanks, we need more humour around here.
There’s a new Dealer coming to the table, let’s wait to see who wins best Stand Up routine. It’s not like the real war has started yet. Has it! Or is NATO bagged and tagged, strapped over the Bears bonnet, with Uncle Sam holed up and outta ammo?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 30 2024 15:45 utc | 209

the russian invasion & rapine of the Ukraine
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 30 2024 15:40 utc | 209

“i could choose to not make a fool for myself, but then i wouldnt be anything at all!”

Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 30 2024 15:58 utc | 211

Peter AU1 | Nov 30 2024 15:46 utc | 211
Most people in most countries don’t want wars. But those who get to the top in politics seem to dislike war a lot less.
Don’t think the Aussies want a war with China, but not sure they should be letting them in. When I was in Melbourne Central Library one Saturday, pretty much everyone in the Reading Room was Chinese, studying away. There’s the new Australian elite if they’re not careful.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 30 2024 16:14 utc | 213

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 30 2024 14:56 utc | 199
The Western media are largely irrelevant to their populations, Nov 5 showed that, trouble is its traditional opponents have not cottoned on yet. Bottom line, who gives a flying F what they say or think, ‘stepping on the bodies of their comrades to assault our positions’ really? Tell me about Kamala’s latest picks for her Cabinet, or, given her last disastrous media appearance, was that from a drinks cabinet?
As for comments about Trump, they remind me of the historian who said, ‘the winners write history, unless your Russia in which case the losers get to explain how they lost. Trump won, period, the people who have endless theories about why he won are often the same people who confidently predicted he wouldn’t, so perhaps the motives that drive their predictions might be questionable or at least questioned.

Posted by: Milites | Nov 30 2024 16:23 utc | 215

“The main lesson of Operation Barbarossa has been learned. Back then Hitler went for too much too quick. Had he consolidated his positions for a few decades, established peace with the UK and the US, etc., then he could have gone for the kill against the USSR.”
@ANON2022 | Nov 30 2024 12:01 utc | 174
You misunderstand who was the actor and who like Hitler and the Germans were being played.
There were no decades available. Nikolai Starikov who is no admirer or defender of the nazis, still recognises that Hitler had a war economy and there wasnt much time to wait. Hitler naively expected to be eventually accepted as a partner by the British but Barbarossa was made to happen since the British and the US wanted it and did not allow a separate peace. Britain masterminded a most insidious action to sabotage Stalin’s effort to form an alliance to contain Hitler. But the US calculated that they would benefit enormously from this war having their industry safely located out of reach for Hitler’s and Japan’s airforce.
Importantly there was never any intention of allowing a normal German nationalism to prevail. Hitler was one of the cult members of just one of dozens of cults that the ruling oligarchy was creating.
They create cults in order to prevent rational thinking to spread to a nation. And it is now busy causing people in the Ukraine and Middle East to act irrationally.
Based on the stupidity of the neocon cult in the US, Saudi arabia for which initially the oligarchy prepared that particular cult, has to an extent lifted itself out of the plan prepared for them by the empires oligarchy. Cults constitute a recurring element or tool in the imperial toolbox and has been repeatedly employed by the very old phenomenon of a ruling oligarchy.
The ageold pattern of opposing camps are the oligarchy’s crew of cults vs the rationally thinking nation builder seeking win-win rather than permanent war.
People are emotional and tend to hook on to some cult even though many socialists mistakenly see themselves as rationally thinking.
We are not born scientists.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 30 2024 16:28 utc | 217

Aleph_Null | Nov 30 2024 16:35 utc | 219
I don’t take Doctrow very seriously but I do assume Russia will be able to discern what is a serious military attack and what is a propaganda attack in which a few American and British weapons are lobbed in Russias direction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 30 2024 16:42 utc | 219

re: Nov 30 2024 14:58 utc | 201
you wrote:
“I have read several of your recent comments, you’re coming across as melodramatic.
What changes in a month?
Russia is a sovereign nation and doesn’t obey the timetables of anyone else.
If you’re thinking that Trump will change something, I know how he thinks. If Putin displays power and ferocity, he will respect that. If Putin waits for him to create a bad peace deal for Russia, Trump will see that as weakness.
Nothing is ever gained with Trump by displaying weakness.”
I am basing my ideas on the statements by Putin, the Russian MOD, the public reactions of US and Western leaders, and the continued attacks on Russian territory by the US and UK (via Ukraine) using the high-precision missiles in the face of repeated warnings by Russia.
Putin said on Nov 21: “ ”We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against military facilities of those countries that allow to use their weapons against our facilities, and in case of an escalation of aggressive actions, we will respond decisively and in mirror-like manner. I recommend that the ruling elites of the countries that are hatching plans to use their military contingents against Russia seriously consider this.
On Nov 28, when asked if military and decision-making centers would be hit by Russia, Putin said “Everything is possible.
Following the US and UK missile attacks on Nov 23 and 25, the Russian Defense Ministry stated on Nov 26: “Retaliatory actions are being prepared.”
On Nov 27, Russia’s Deputy Ambassador at the United Nations, Dmitri Polianski, stated:
““We consider ourselves to have the right to use our weapons against military targets of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our targets.
We warned you about this, however, you made your choice.”
On Nov 27, Russia issued the NOTAM covering the area in Russia where the Oreshnik was launched (to take out the Yuzhmash aerospace facility). The NOTAM extends through today.
I have taken all this to mean that Russia will hit one or more NATO military bases. I admit this has been unnerving to me, given its implcations, as this would put the US and NATO into direct military conflict.
I have never made any mention of Trump in my posts referring to the current circumstances. I will say that I have been deeply disappointed by Trump’s failure to speak out against Biden’s decision to start firing missiles into Russia. Trump’s silence comes across as approval, or at the least, acceptance of this decisions. Trump’s failure to speak out against the ongoing missile strikes against Russia — combined with the ignorant statements made by some of his neocon cabinet picks — are completely at odds with Trump’s promise to end the war in Ukraine. This does not give Putin any incentive to wait to see what Trump will do after he takes office.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 17:14 utc | 221

@ANON2022 | Nov 30 2024 14:04 utc | 186
>>You know very well that the Israelis would have sent a missile at whatever pressconference Budanov, Zelensky or any of the other scumbags is at, and damn the collateral damage
Without a doubt; then turn around, refuel/rearm, and do a number on their extended families. Then post a highlight reel on jewish Instagram. And they’d get away with it too, because Israel’s support structure mostly depends on a small number of (very wealthy) narcissists and psychos at key power nodes in the USA, who in turn keep the goyim in line throughout the Empire. Russia’s support structure consists of a much more diverse cast of people/states who want to trade and develop, in short live, normally. That’s even omitting that billions of people pray to the God of Israel, not to the God of Russia; even here in remote Taiwan, I come across folks for whom “Israel no matter what” is their ticket to Paradise, serious business–facts really aren’t going to dissuade them. So it’s only right that Moscow doesn’t emulate Tel Aviv.
One might ask: if you feel that the Izzies do everything better, why don’t you go live among them? These days, it seems that building your house exclusively on hate only works out for the worst of them.
About Serbia and others delivering arms to Kiev: take care, Western intel would gladly overpay 10x to get some Serbian etc kit into Ukie hands, and spread that narrative far and wide. But beyond that: damn straight these small, nonnuclear, surrounded countries are not going to overcommit before they know whether the Bear can even be bothered to take Russian Odessa and open a land bridge to Transnistria and Hungary. As long as word from the Kremlin is “slower is better” and Putin eager to “compromise”, they will stay on the fence as well. Bottom line nobody will do for Russia what that giant country won’t do for itself.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Nov 30 2024 17:43 utc | 223

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 30 2024 16:35 utc | 219
In chess there is a saying: the threat is stronger than its execution.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 30 2024 17:52 utc | 225

Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2024 9:55 utc | 153
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Weren’t you the guy who thought Ukraine could win the SMO a few months ago?
Your comments about Turkiye may well prove to be Erdogan’s death knell. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 18:18 utc | 227

Bottom line nobody will do for Russia what that giant country won’t do for itself.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Nov 30 2024 17:43 utc | 224

Yes, indeed. That summarizes it well.

Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 30 2024 18:22 utc | 229

Ukraine has underground gas storage (Bilche, 17 billion m3). Seems like a natural fit for Oreshnik.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 30 2024 18:33 utc | 231

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 17:14 utc | 222
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Trump’s silence is a negotiating tactic. I feel silly explaining this to an audience of (ostensibly) adults.
When you read Putin’s remarks, try to control your emotions and not project your fears. Putin speaks, truthfully and directly as Russians are wont to do.
Putin issued warnings because he is a responsible leader.
Trump is trying to manipulate him with silence, and Putin is manipulating back by defining the limits of the future agreement in advance by drawing bright lines.
I don’t see a deal being made in America’s favor, and I feel Trump will have to suffer some egg on his face, which will enrage him as his self-image and public perception mean more to him than the health of the nation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 18:37 utc | 233

I will say that I have been deeply disappointed by Trump’s failure to speak out against Biden’s decision to start firing missiles into Russia. Trump’s silence comes across as approval, or at the least, acceptance of this decisions. Trump’s failure to speak out against the ongoing missile strikes against Russia — combined with the ignorant statements made by some of his neocon cabinet picks — are completely at odds with Trump’s promise to end the war in Ukraine. This does not give Putin any incentive to wait to see what Trump will do after he takes office.
@ Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 17:14 utc | 222
Quite well stated. I totally share your frustration with Trump’s silent assent, as we stare into the abyss in this putative interim. But I don’t share your disappointment, as I could never have imagined anything else from Trump, with the clown cabinet he’s predictably taken on.
Russia also had no reason to expect anything but continuous escalation. They’re not taken in with oscillations of the spin cycle, as much as consumers of MSM agitprop. The correct thing to do, in the face of relentless, apparently limitless escalation, is to seize escalation dominance. Ergo Oreshnik.
Jacques Baud has compared RF’s Oreshnik test-strike on Yuzhmash to “Little Boy” over Hiroshima. Talk about escalation dominance! If Baud (and I) are right about that, the global military infrastructure which was introduced by a nuclear blast on August 6, 1945 has been entirely superseded by another era of military history, in which anti-population weapons are simply futile. Welcome to the new era of hyper-kinetic thunderbolts which can scour the planet of toxic airfields, harbors, factories, what-have you. And root warmongers from their deepest bunkers, without radioactive fallout.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 30 2024 19:04 utc | 235

Rob Urie has a good commentary here:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-152242687
Nothing new for seasoned bar flies, but a good summary from a well-informed American dissident.

Posted by: Avtonom | Nov 30 2024 19:18 utc | 237

Hmmm…
https://trendcompass.substack.com/p/are-they-planning-a-false-flag-attack
If the enemy won’t compel our people, we will? (“well, it might work” – RR)
https://london-webcam.co.uk/
I tried several. All dark.

Posted by: saner | Nov 30 2024 19:51 utc | 239

re: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 18:37 utc | 234
you write:
“Trump’s silence is a negotiating tactic. I feel silly explaining this to an audience of (ostensibly) adults.
When you read Putin’s remarks, try to control your emotions and not project your fears. Putin speaks, truthfully and directly as Russians are wont to do.
Putin issued warnings because he is a responsible leader.
Trump is trying to manipulate him with silence, and Putin is manipulating back by defining the limits of the future agreement in advance by drawing bright lines.
I don’t see a deal being made in America’s favor, and I feel Trump will have to suffer some egg on his face, which will enrage him as his self-image and public perception mean more to him than the health of the nation.”
That’s your opinion, and you (deliberately?) ignore the bellicose statements about Ukraine and Putin being made on Trump’s behalf by his cabinet appointees, particularly the well-publicized statements by Sebastian Gorka. During an interview that occurred several days ago, the fool Gorka said: “He [Trump] will say to that murderous former KGB colonel, that thug, who runs the Russian Federation: you will negotiate now or the aid that we [the US] have given to Ukraine thus far will look like peanuts.”
When Trump allows such statements to be made on his behalf and says nothing, that indicates his approval of Gorka’s venomous remarks, and this is certainly noted in Moscow.
When you read Putin’s remarks, try not to interpret them with your wishful thinking. When he states that Russia will retaliate “in a mirror-like manner”, I believe him. When this will happen is anyone’s guess, but I expect it will be sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 20:12 utc | 241

re: Aleph_Null | Nov 30 2024 19:04 utc | 236
You are right, it was foolish to expect anything other than bluster from Trump. Apparently his plan to “end the Ukraine War in a day” more likely involved threatening Putin with some major escalation rather than simply withdrawing aid to Ukraine.
You wrote:
“Jacques Baud has compared RF’s Oreshnik test-strike on Yuzhmash to “Little Boy” over Hiroshima. Talk about escalation dominance! If Baud (and I) are right about that, the global military infrastructure which was introduced by a nuclear blast on August 6, 1945 has been entirely superseded by another era of military history, in which anti-population weapons are simply futile. Welcome to the new era of hyper-kinetic thunderbolts which can scour the planet of toxic airfields, harbors, factories, what-have you. And root warmongers from their deepest bunkers, without radioactive fallout.”
It appears that the West is doing its best to hide the damage done by the first Oreshnik strike. No satellite photos, no on-site photos have been released. Consequently, analysts have had to rely on anecdotal accounts, which don’t amount to strong evidence.
Plus, “experts” like Jeffrey Lewis have belittled the idea that Oreshnik represents some new revolutionary type of weapon that far exceeds the power of conventional weaponry (Putin stated that several Oreshniks used together would have the power of a strategic, i.e. nuclear, weapon).
I suppose the only way to make the evidence irrefutable is for Russia to continue with Oreshnik strikes against NATO targets. If Putin was not bloffing, the evidence should be forthcoming in the very near future.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 20:36 utc | 243

The link:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/ukraine-november-117009193

Posted by: Avtonom | Nov 30 2024 20:45 utc | 245

Or, Trump doesn’t want to be accused of catering to Russia, the way he was accused in 2016. The Deep State went after Gen. Flynn, Trump’s NSA pick, for talking with Russia’s ambassador during the transition period! That was insane! But they got away with it.
I guess we’ll see which it is in the days to come.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 29 2024 17:02 utc | 25
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I think you are on to something, worthy of some contemplation by karlof1, b Himself, as the Irish would say, milites, unimperator, various james entities and a few others who keep an eye an uncle Sam.
I take my view all the way back to how Mike Johnson walked $61B for Ukraine through Congress. He went to Mar-a-Lgo to kiss the ring, seeking Trump’s approval which he got, the thinking at the time that Trump did not want to appear to be ‘weak on Russia.’
An additional comment from other sources indicated that Mike Johnson cam back from his intelligence briefings ‘a changed man,’ thinking that Russia wanted to take all of Western Europe. He is definitely stupid enough.
Preparations for ‘Who lost Ukraine’ are in the making. Tough talk, ‘not us,’ seems to be the measure of progress.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Nov 30 2024 21:04 utc | 247

wonder when they’ll convert to battery power BTW
That’ll be when a battery has enough energy density to power a motor sufficiently to lift it off the ground = sometime never.

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 30 2024 21:15 utc | 249

Think strategically.
NATO/USA has ALWAYS wanted to use nukes on Russia, but to get them to use them first. For the USA until recently anyway, they stood to win a nuclear war (they thought) because if Russia used a mini nuke first then USA/NATO would respond with 200, half targeted at Moscow and St Petersburg and the others at launch sites- essentially ending Russia as a nation – most of its people etc. Sure Russia might respond with its nukes but the US elites assumed they would mostly be safe in bunkers, even assuming Russia was not bluffing about response or that their systems all worked.
However NATO/USA has lost out bigtime on the land war in Ukraine. Russia clearly does not need to use nukes. Despite all their incitement Russia has not used nukes, so the USA needs a new strategy.
Essentially the USA needs to get its navy into the Black Sea. Turkey is the blocking point. So Syria is the bargaining chip. USA allows/helps Turkey take Aleppo and Turkey opens up the Bosporus for NATO vessels. Russia needs to calculate Turkey’s response if it helps Syria.
There may be other factors too, not involving USA. Turkey gets Aleppo with Russia’s tacit approval in exchange for giving Syria Golan heights. Erdogan is tricky. Who knows what he will do – he may not know himself.
Whatever way we look at it is is part of the prelude to wider conflict.

Posted by: watcher | Nov 30 2024 21:25 utc | 251

It appears that the West is doing its best to hide the damage done by the first Oreshnik strike. No satellite photos, no on-site photos have been released. Consequently, analysts have had to rely on anecdotal accounts, which don’t amount to strong evidence.
Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 20:36 utc | 244

That much is true, but they never post damage photos from sensitive objects, only if they can use it for propaganda purposes, so that is not new.
Also, as I mentioned above, it is not as if there was a live webcam in Yuzhmash prior to November 21. There was never any on-the-ground, let alone underground footage from those facilities.
So if there had not been any strike, you would not have seen any footage.
I have another question for the last several days — when and where the hell was that weapon tested? Because they presumably fired that payload at least a few times previously before they sent it to Yuzhmash. And it is kind of hard to miss the hands of God reaching down from the sky…
So Western intelligence most likely knew about it, and had high-res satellite pictures of the aftermath at the test grounds, wherever they were. Thus I am skeptical about the reports that they were shook by the Yuzhmash strike. Their subsequent actions certainly do not point to them being scared by it.
And it is irrelevant anyway – the Western bet is that Putin and Russian elites are sufficiently compromised and/or cowardly to ever strike at them, so what weapons they have at their disposal does not matter. A very solid bet so far.

Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 30 2024 21:32 utc | 253

Perimetr@242
“in a mirror-like manner”
Wonder if Mr Putin is gonna use one of those concave type mirrors, the type found in Amusement parks.
I don’t believe he’ll do anything outside of killing more Ukie fodder in the Ukraine, which the Russians have excelled at so far. Deterring FUKUS, hmm……not so much.
Cheers M
…..I’m not sure how punching 12 wee holes in the ground is going to get the EU or world populace on board with not wanting any part of a war with Russia……the west is Hollywood conditioned, if Russia thinks some bombs without pyrotechnics is going to scare anyone, well, no white flag from NATO yet. Hope springs eternal….

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 30 2024 21:42 utc | 255

Just reading about Ukie trained thugs killing Wagner’s somewhere in Africa, Ukie trained thugs training Jihadi in Turkey/Syria killing Russian allies, bet head chopper gets extra cash for bagging and tagging a Russian in Syria (just calling what I see) what next Jihadi Goes To Georgia, back, back, back….back in the USSR.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 30 2024 21:50 utc | 257

More and more indications that Trump is in the process of being even more neutralized this time than last.
The complex spin on events the warmongering hegemon is displaying now shows them in control and not about to acceot some “transition”.
Kremlin better recognize this and be aware that a new adminstration means nothing.

Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 30 2024 22:03 utc | 259

perhaps Oreshnik really is a “nothingburger”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 30 2024 21:58 utc | 259
—
Oreshnik makes Nutella.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 30 2024 22:12 utc | 261

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 30 2024 20:12 utc | 242
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Trump is a rhetorician. Nothing he says can be taken as truth. Couple that with the fact that Trump holds no absolute values about anything. He’s very flexible so that he can achieve his aims.
His proxies are spouting off, creating chaos, which is his favorite paradigm to operate within. Madman Theory.
Trump has loudly been anti-war, but he will continue to start and continue wars, as he did in his first term when he assassinated Soleimani inside of Iran (violating Iran’s sovereignty, a typical Zionist tactic). As when he used sanctions to starve civilians in Syria. As when he gave Zelensky weapons to kill Russians inside of Donbass.
As with everyone, judge no one on what they say. Judge only what they do.
Putin is much more clear because talking a lot of junk and making threats isn’t the Russian style. He is also more likely to explain what he has already done (ex-post) than threaten doom and destruction before giving an order as Trump is fond of doing. The ideal lens for one is NOT the appropriate lens for the other.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 22:18 utc | 263

And quietly, ever so quietly, our friendly nuclear war fetishist has outed him/her/its undecided/ self as a seppoe*, so we can all now completely disregard any claim made about knowing what “ordinary Russian people on the street” think.
Clumsy, wasting all that time and effort…
*seppoe = short for septic tank, and I’m sure you don’t need an expert in “rhymings-lang” for that…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 30 2024 22:25 utc | 265

The Trump silence and neo-con Foreign Policy appointments could be attributed to the two assassination attempts, so far.
Putting yet another log in the fire pit, warming up the flies at the bar.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Nov 30 2024 22:26 utc | 267

Martin Armstrong has reported from his staff in Kiev. Russians have dropped leaflettes. Leave the city.
Interview: Armstrong Reveals KEY INTEL On Russia-Ukraine Escalations

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 30 2024 22:31 utc | 269

With US and now Germany pushing Ukraine to send their 18 year old children to the Frontline it’s increasingly beginning to look like it’s not Russia, but Ukraine that the West is trying to wipe out.
Ukrainian major cities are levelled, their once massive agricultural sector is under Russian control. Their energy is completely wiped, and the West has been sending just enough arms to hold back Russia but not enough to meaningfully halt the Russian conquest, much less repel it.
You’ve sent your soldiers, then your old men, then women, and finally what’s left needs to go and die at the front, Ukraine. Once all is gone war can finally end.
There is no way Zelensky doesn’t see this collapse of the Ukraine in real time, pushed entirely by the western nations.

Posted by: eyes wings | Nov 30 2024 22:33 utc | 271

Posted by: diatom | Nov 30 2024 22:24 utc | 265
100% agree about watching and listening to the discussion in full.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 30 2024 22:37 utc | 273

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 30 2024 21:58 utc | 259
Excellent. Additionally you could have noted in your response to the troll’s comment @ 21:32 utc that if Yuzhmash damage were indeed underwhelming, the Ukronazis would’ve posted photos *precisely for their propaganda value*, thus turning the troll’s argument on its head.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 30 2024 22:42 utc | 275

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 30 2024 22:31 utc | 270
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A 1 hour long video. Wow.
I’ll take your word for the content. I don’t have the time to watch every interesting video that others cite. Video is a terrible medium for communicating important details quickly in a busy information paradigm where most of us are trying to drink from a firehose.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 22:47 utc | 277

Ukrainian troops have been given phrasebooks in Korean in case Kim Jong Un’s troops join the fray.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 30 2024 14:56 utc | 199
“안녕하세요”
*BANG*

Posted by: Oldhand | Nov 30 2024 22:54 utc | 279

LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 22:47 utc | 278
Actually the quote is at the front of the video. Click on it and its a minute.

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 30 2024 23:03 utc | 281

Russians have dropped leaflettes. Leave the city.
Posted by: circumspect | Nov 30 2024 22:31 utc | 270
The followup munitions won’t be loaded with cookies.
I better go eat while I still can…
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Nov 30 2024 11:16 utc | 167
I’ll enjoy this single malt. No-ones calling last orders at the bar.

Posted by: Oldhand | Nov 30 2024 23:08 utc | 283

Sounds like a Tartakowerism but I remember it attributed to Emanuel Lasker.

Maybe it is older, but Nimzowitsch has it as an essential part of My System.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Nov 30 2024 23:16 utc | 285

DS map update analysis:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Overall: Another strong day for the RFA, taking 43.0 kmsq, as compared to an average pace of 17/day in OCT. Continued progress in the South Donetsk, responsible for almost all the total.
S to N:
1. 20.3 kmsq SE of Velyka Novasilka. The pocket is getting tighter on the line of towns to the south of VN.
2. 4.7 kmsq N of Dalnie and S of Kurakhove. Gray conversion of a pocket.
3. 1.8 klmsq in and S/W of Beretsky. Most of the next town over, Stari Terny, is now in the gray.
4. 3.4 kmsq in and N of Beretsky, including town capture.
5. 0.3 kmsq in Pushkine. Hamlet is half gray/red now. (Pokrovsk front.)
6. 4.4 kmsq W of Zhovte and Pustynka. The next town to the NW, Novopustynka, is now threatened. (Pokrovsk front.)
7. 5.3 kmsq E of Lozova, S of the Pischane bloom. Starting to roll up territory in the large open fields to the E of the Oskil Reservoir (and S of the bloom).
8. 2.8 kmsq E of Zapadne, N of Kupiansk. This is a second (slightly further south) crossing of the Oskil. It does not look like they have a bridge at either crossing. (Maybe temp pontoon bridges?) Will be interesting to see what happens. If they can take a decent sized town (Dvorichna most likely) would help support them making this incursion resistant to UFA counterattacks. Probably the sites are vulnerable, if the UFA can concentrate forces.

Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 30 2024 23:27 utc | 287

Re Trump vs Putin, US vs RF:
Talk (or lack thereof) is just the game, the PR, the spin.
All leaders engage in it.
Actions are the reality.
So, my summary:
Trump talks big. Trump threatens. Trump uses others as his pre-negotiation mouthpieces. Trump has the Dems and DS and election sponsors to juggle. Trump bullshits the people. Trump has a very fractured Congress. Trump is the new kid in US-Russia relations. Lol, Putin has lived through 5 POTUS.
Putin talks straight and deals in Realpolitic. He doesn’t insult national leaders. He may hide a bit, but he doesn’t lie to the people. Putin has a predominantly unified Duma. Putin (eventually) enacts what he said he’d do. He works for on-ground realities.

Posted by: Englishman in NY | Nov 30 2024 23:36 utc | 289

Americans fighting in Ukraine video from south front
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/33047-Kursk-Region.mp4?_=3

Posted by: ld | Nov 30 2024 23:47 utc | 291

Mark2 | Nov 29 2024 23:40 utc | 88
*** Trump sold america to the jews.
He did a deal.
With the devil.***
Trump must be one helluva salesman …
to sell the Jews what they had already acquired.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 1 2024 0:06 utc | 293

ZimZum | Nov 30 2024 3:34 utc | 110
*** He has destroyed his country yet parades as the ultimate patriot.
It is quite nauseating and you would hope for some sort of reckoning.***
In fairness to Zelensky, note that he did not destroy Israel.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 1 2024 0:20 utc | 295

I keep coming back to not believing what people say, instead what they do. The Americans don’t follow any laws, even their own. Putin, being a legalist, recognizes what a bad actor looks like, certainly after the betrayals via the Minsk agreements.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 22:29 utc | 269
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I look forward to this slow-motion trainwreck playing out over the next 4 years.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2024 22:37 utc | 273
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I am afraid of that, too. If DJT is indeed affected by the assassination attempts it is game over.
Posted by: Milites | Nov 30 2024 23:39 utc | 291
Milites is giving him credit for something, I did not know Trump has ever demonstrated. I do prefer to be wrong.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Dec 1 2024 0:30 utc | 297

@ Cynic | Dec 1 2024 0:27 utc | 297
Semantics indeed — I heard elensky say that he would cede territory *temporarily*, and because he won’t cede territory permanently (thus creating the necessary stable borders), he realizes he can’t be a NATO member. He does express hope that he’ll be accommodated under a NATO “umbrella”, whatever that is.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 1 2024 0:31 utc | 299