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November 24, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-282
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Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 15:08 utc | 500
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Well, fake
Breaking news on RT
“ATACMS attack on Kursk region – Russia is preparing a response”
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Russia’s Ministry of Defense has reported two attacks with ATACMS missiles by the Ukrainian armed forces on Russian territory, which is also recognized by the West. A response has been announced.
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Russia’s Ministry of Defense reported this in unusual detail on Tuesday, November 26, 2024:
According to confirmed data, the Ukrainian armed forces have carried out two attacks with long-range Western weapons against objects in the Kursk region in the last three days.
For example, on November 23, the enemy attacked the positions of a battery of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems near the village of Lotarevka, 37 kilometers northeast of Kursk city, with five ATACMS battlefield missiles made by the USA.
During the anti-missile battle, the crew of a Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun system, which provided cover for this battery, intercepted three of the ATACMS missiles, while two hit their target.
As a result of this attack, a radar installation was damaged. There are casualties among the military personnel present.
On November 25, 2024, the Kyiv regime launched another attack, namely against the Kursk-East airfield near the village of Chalino, using eight ATACMS battlefield missiles. Seven missiles were intercepted by the crews of the Pantsir FLAR/K systems and S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems present, while one hit its target. Two men among the military personnel present were wounded by shrapnel. Infrastructure facilities suffered minor damage.
Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 15:20 utc | 501
Well, fake
Breaking news on RT
“ATACMS attack on Kursk region – Russia is preparing a response”
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Russia’s Ministry of Defense has reported two attacks with ATACMS missiles by the Ukrainian armed forces on Russian territory, which is also recognized by the West. A response has been announced.
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Russia’s Ministry of Defense reported this in unusual detail on Tuesday, November 26, 2024:
According to confirmed data, the Ukrainian armed forces have carried out two attacks with long-range Western weapons against objects in the Kursk region in the last three days.
For example, on November 23, the enemy attacked the positions of a battery of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems near the village of Lotarevka, 37 kilometers northeast of Kursk city, with five ATACMS battlefield missiles made by the USA.
During the anti-missile battle, the crew of a Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun system, which provided cover for this battery, intercepted three of the ATACMS missiles, while two hit their target.
As a result of this attack, a radar installation was damaged. There are casualties among the military personnel present.
On November 25, 2024, the Kyiv regime launched another attack, namely against the Kursk-East airfield near the village of Chalino, using eight ATACMS battlefield missiles. Seven missiles were intercepted by the crews of the Pantsir FLAR/K systems and S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems present, while one hit its target. Two men among the military personnel present were wounded by shrapnel. Infrastructure facilities suffered minor damage.
Posted by: ossi | Nov 26 2024 15:21 utc | 502
Breaking news on RT
” ATACMS attack on Kursk region – Russia prepares response ”
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Russia’s Defense Ministry has reported two attacks with ATACMS missiles by the Ukrainian armed forces on Russian territory recognized by the West. A response has been announced.
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Russia’s Defense Ministry reported this in unusual detail on Tuesday, November 26, 2024:
According to confirmed data, the Ukrainian armed forces have carried out two attacks with long-range Western weapons against objects in the Kursk region in the last three days.
On November 23, the enemy attacked the positions of a battery of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems near the village of Lotarevka, 37 kilometers northeast of Kursk city, with five ATACMS battlefield missiles made by the United States.
During the anti-missile battle, the crew of a Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun system, which provided cover for this battery, intercepted three of the ATACMS missiles, while two hit their target.
As a result of this attack, a radar installation was damaged. There are casualties among the military personnel present.
On November 25, 2024, the Kyiv regime launched another attack, namely against the Kursk-East airfield near the village of Chalino, using eight ATACMS battlefield missiles. Seven missiles were intercepted by the crews of the Pantsir FLAR/K systems and S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems present, while one hit its target. Two men among the military personnel present were wounded by shrapnel. Infrastructure facilities suffered minor damage.
Posted by: osssi | Nov 26 2024 15:24 utc | 503
Despite Putin’s warnings, the US has again fired ATACMS missiles at Russia’s Kursk region
Today it became known that there have been two more ATACMS missile attacks on targets in Russia’s Kursk region in recent days. The Russian Defense Ministry said a response was being prepared.
by Anti-Spiegel
November 26, 2024 4:02 p.m.
Russian President Putin stated on November 21 that Russia sees itself as effectively at war with the countries that supply Ukraine with missiles, which then attack targets in Russia, because these weapons can only be programmed by NATO soldiers. This means that it is not Ukraine that is attacking targets in Russia, but these Western countries.
After that, no such attacks were reported for almost a week and one might think that the West had understood Putin’s warning. However, this is not the case, because today the Russian Defense Ministry reported that there have been renewed ATACMS missile attacks from the US on targets in the Kursk region in recent days. The Russian Defense Ministry said a response was being prepared.
The cover image of this article shows one of the photos taken of the ATACMS wreckage at an airport in Russia and published by the Russian Defense Ministry on Telegram.
Here I am translating a report from the Russian news agency TASS about what is known so far.
Start of translation:
What is known about the Ukrainian ATACMS missile attacks on the Kursk region
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have carried out two attacks with Western long-range weapons on facilities in the Kursk region over the past three days, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.
According to the ministry, the first attack with US ATACMS missiles was carried out on November 23 on the position of an S-400 anti-aircraft division. The second attack was carried out by Ukrainian forces on November 25 on an airfield in Kursk.
TASS has compiled the known information.
The scale of the attacks and preparation of the response
Ukraine has carried out two attacks with Western long-range weapons against facilities in the Kursk region over the past three days.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, these were operational-tactical ATACMS missiles from the United States.
The ministry said it was monitoring the situation and preparing a response to the attacks.
The attack on the position of an S-400 anti-aircraft division
On November 23, Ukraine first attacked the position of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile division near Lotarevka (37 km north-west of Kursk) with five ATACMS missiles.
In the course of the anti-missile battle, the crew of a Pantsir anti-aircraft system, which was providing cover, destroyed three ATACMS missiles. Two reached the target.
The hit damaged the radar station. There were injuries among the personnel.
The attack on the airfield near Kursk
On November 25, Ukraine carried out a second attack with eight ATACMS missiles on the Kursk-Vostochny airfield.
Seven missiles were fired by S-400s and Pantsirs, one hit its target.
Two soldiers were lightly wounded by falling rocket fragments.
Minor damage was caused to infrastructure facilities.
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https://anti-spiegel.ru/2024/trotz-putins-warnungen-haben-die-usa-erneut-das-russische-gebiet-kursk-mit-atacms-raketen-beschossen/
Posted by: osii | Nov 26 2024 15:27 utc | 504
@ William Gruff | Nov 26 2024 11:36 utc | 469
thanks william… i didn’t know these details and i tend to believe you and how you’ve characterized it all.. so – thanks… as for moving forward – i remain open minded about trumps abilities here to fulfill what he has said publicly.. so – we’ll see how it goes..
@ osii | Nov 26 2024 15:27 utc | 505
ossi – thanks for this and all your other posts..
Posted by: james | Nov 26 2024 15:35 utc | 505
Russia has said they are going to respond to this latest ATACMs strike. Obviously one would expect the response to be stronger than the single Oreshnik last week.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 26 2024 15:37 utc | 506
Karkhiv – Ok the Russians invaded but left after the referendum rejected them.
Posted by: Tim | Nov 26 2024 15:14 utc | 501
There was never a referendum in Kharkov and Russia left before holding the referendums in the other regions.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 26 2024 15:49 utc | 507
Russia has said they are going to respond to this latest ATACMs strike. Obviously one would expect the response to be stronger than the single Oreshnik last week.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 26 2024 15:37 utc | 507
It will be something unexpected again. Putin has “Biden” right where he wants him.
Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 26 2024 16:02 utc | 508
Goebbels was and remained a socialist. You have only to read his diaries to see how much he despised the establishment in Germany.
Originally a follower of Gregor Strasser, whose brand of Nazism was more socialist than Hitler’s, he switched his loyalty to Hitler. But the diaries show that he remained a socialist.
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 26 2024 16:10 utc | 509
“Goebbels was and remained a socialist. You have only to read his diaries to see how much he despised the establishment in Germany.
Originally a follower of Gregor Strasser, whose brand of Nazism was more socialist than Hitler’s, he switched his loyalty to Hitler. But the diaries show that he remained a socialist.”
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 26 2024 16:10 utc | 510
A good post as far as it goes, however, Ed Bernays (nephew of Sigmund Freud and the original modern propagandist) was, in my humble opinion a greater influence on the man than Strasser.
You can watch Bernays on Letterman below in 1985-he was 94 in 1985-he died 10 years later at 104 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-4AulOuCPI
Where are the ATACMS missiles being used to attack Russia being stored? I have read that the number of these missiles available is very limited. Is that true?
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 26 2024 16:16 utc | 511
Posted by: canuck | Nov 26 2024 16:15 utc | 511
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What does Goebels have to do with the Ukraine conflict?
Incidentally, anyone with a reasonable education that deserves the name knows that the NSDAP was a left-wing party… the so-called left-wing party was a social party…
Nevertheless…
What does that have to do with Ukraine or Russia… Aside from the fact that today’s left-wing parties, at least in Germany, are again seeking war with Russia…
Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 16:22 utc | 512
@512 – if we knew that, then they’d have already been blown up.
There was a story that the UK defense minister said they’re out of Storm Shadows. Could have been fake info, though.
Best guess is that there is going to be a problem for the West real soon as < 25% rate of hitting targets is not economically viable.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 26 2024 16:23 utc | 513
Dany | Nov 26 2024 7:35 utc | 445–
Thanks for your reply. Russian medical advances are many and very noteworthy, and we get several insights as the year goes along, not just with this report but with the continuous opening of new medical centers and reports on pharmaceutical sovereignty. Despite the growing danger in the conflict with NATO, life in Russia continues at its heightened pace despite it being Winter. Today the governor of Arkhangelsk Region Alexander Tsybulsky gave his report to Putin and noted the region’s recovery from forest products sanctions and an unemployment rate of 1%.
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In response to the continued ACATMs attacks, I anticipate the employment of another new weapon test perhaps in Chasov Yar or Toretsk where dense urban fortifications exist, although it’s just as likely the attack will be in the deep rear.
It seems that US/NATO/EU want a war, come hell or high water.
Putin must be wondering:
1. hit them, US, UK, France, Germany hard! Take out Ramstein as an example.
2. Tough it out to January 20, and see if anything changes.
If he decides to wait, there will be many camels to swallow for the next 7 weeks.
But it might be the right decision nevertheless.
Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 26 2024 16:45 utc | 515
Of course they want a war. They dream it will save the West after they borrowed their economies into oblivion. But it has to be a goldilocks war, nit too hot or cold – but just right.
These people are fucking fools.
There is no right answer when dealing with a psychopathic terrorist alliance.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 26 2024 16:55 utc | 516
Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 15:08 utc | 500
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Why are you not participating in the SMO?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 17:02 utc | 517
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 8:41 utc | 450
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Most talking heads annoy me. I value analysis, and when Ritter relies on his training, he’s a very good analyst.
The scales have fallen from his eyes with the murder of Hind Rajab.
Epiphanies come incrementally, and then all at once.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 17:09 utc | 518
467 – While it’s unlikely, because Anderson is a non-entity, the Brits have a weakness for symbolic propaganda stunts, and holding Anderson in Kursk is a little close to the front line.
Also NATO and its agents have murdered people deep inside Russia, like Dugin’s daughter.
Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 17:12 utc | 519
Why Hypersonic Missiles Are A Game Changer
Previously, we discussed how smart missiles are the smartphones of dumb war. Now we’ll discuss hypersonics, the smartest missiles. Hypersonic literally means a speed, travelling 6,000 to 12,000 KPH. Hypersonics also evade air defenses, they come in low and squirrelly. Hypersonics are like asteroids powered by supercomputers. A MIRV hypersonic can have six independently targeted re-entry vehicles. In cricket terms, this is like a fast bowler and a spin bowler who can bowl a full over in one toss. This is unstoppable. America is out for a (sitting) duck.
Today Russia, China, Iran, and Yemen have hypersonic missiles and America does not. The most advanced hypersonic used in anger is the Oreshnik from Russia. This missile can skim space, reach speeds of Mach 11, and split into six independently targeted warheads. It is made of some unknown alloys that can withstand such heat and looked like the glowing farts of Zeus when it obliterated a factory in Ukraine. It is unstoppable and, depending on what it’s armed with, devastating.
An Oreshnik could hit Berlin in 11 minutes and London in 20 (and God knows they deserve it). The warheads can be nukes, to add annihilation to injury. This is an ungodly weapon that should be banned and was banned until Trump unilaterally pulled out of the missile control treaty. Now Russia has responded and they’re proliferating the technology. Vladimir Putin updated Russian military doctrine to say that NATO can’t hide behind Ukraine anymore, and also said ‘if you’re going to arm my enemies, I’ll arm your enemies,’ ie Yemen and Iran.
Speaking about Oreshnik, specifically, Vlad said,
“It goes without saying that when choosing, if necessary and as a retaliatory measure, targets to be hit by systems such as Oreshnik on Ukrainian territory, we will in advance suggest that civilians and citizens of friendly countries residing in those areas leave danger zones. We will do so for humanitarian reasons, openly and publicly, without fear of counter-moves coming from the enemy, who will also be receiving this information.
Why without fear? Because there are no means of countering such weapons today. Missiles attack targets at a speed of Mach 10, which is 2.5 to 3 kilometres per second. Air defence systems currently available in the world and missile defence systems being created by the Americans in Europe cannot intercept such missiles. It is impossible.”
This is a game changer, and because America has been dumb enough to unite everyone in Asia against it, it changes the three chess games America has going at once. At this point, we should just call all this fighting World War III, since all the fronts have connected and the genocide is in full blood. The only comfort is that America has brought a World War II army to a World War III missile fight and is just a luxury terrorist force now. They can bomb apartment buildings and refugee camps, but cannot destroy any serious military, peer or peasant.
America doesn’t admit it (the propaganda department is the only thing they haven’t outsourced) but their military is no longer the strongest in the world. They lost to Afghanistan and Yemen. The US military is certainly not stronger than Russia, Iran, China, and the Axis of Resistance combined, and it’s absolutely not strong enough to invade all of them at once. I’m not saying any of these militaries could invade America, but nobody wants to. The Resistance just wants America to fuck off, and now they have fuck-off weaponry.
The strategic calculus—acknowledged dimly among retired generals if not its octogenarian politicians—has changed. America’s operating bases in West Asia (Europe) are not secure, its bases in the Middle East are under attack, and they daren’t set foot near Taiwan. Assets have become liabilities, strengths have become weaknesses, and their leadership is incredibly dumb. America still holds a nuclear gun to the world’s head, but even that’s looking rusty. Its Minutemen program is 62 years old and will cost $150 billion to replace, which in US accounting might as well be a trillion over infinity.
The US military was formidable last century but everything depreciates, even the mightiest armies. Meanwhile America’s enemies have superior new technology which is evolving rapidly, and they’re sharing notes. The game has changed, and the only thing America can do is flip the nuclear table. Let’s hope, inshallah, they’re not able, for all of us. Hypersonic missiles are a game changer, but what do we win? The meek will inherit the earth, but what do we get, in the end? A bloody ruin, left by a petulant power that has already kicked up enough dust to trash the whole ecosystem.
https://indi.ca/why-hypersonic-missiles-are-a-game-changer/
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 26 2024 17:15 utc | 520
Agree, jure. It’s even more insidious though. These regimes devalue their currencies faster than they increase payments to the serfs. Meanwhile, higher per capita bennies flow to the upper class, who benefit disproportionately from tax “cuts” and own the corporations that suck up all the excess money.
To anyone who doesn’t always, always, always consider devaluation impacts on purchasing power, many of these politicians look “socialist”.
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 26 2024 14:25 utc | 493
Bullseye!
As I mentioned often enough, true inflation (for things worth having) basically doubles every 11 years.
You can see that in the price of a boeing 747 for over 50 years, or for an appartment in a major city, or for heavy engeneering (and that’s why there are always budget overruns in long projects).
That’s what basically alllowed the transfer of half of income value of low class americans (and almost a third of median income ones) to the top 10% (and evenmore strongly to the top 0.1%)
In the labor income we’re almost at 1930 level (near 0.5 gini) and I’d expect things to get worse until 2050.
In the wealth distribution most current numbers are manipulated/underestimated but we should be above 75% of all wealth in the hands of 10%, heading to at least 82% (90% if we go to failing hegemeon levels like late XIX th century great Britain, of which 70% belong to 1%)
Another part was/is taking place with credit and real estate. That’s the part to keep the 9% happy until you end the pump and enter the dump and buy cents to the dollar of debt. At that stage the 9% pass from being significantly rewarded to barely living as well as median citizens did at the peak.
What does that have to do with ukraine you might ask? End stage subjects are not motivated to produce the means to sustain and empire, the top 1% is not motivated to finance it and nobody but some well indoctrinated plebes are willing to die or suffer for it, at least not for long.
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 17:18 utc | 521
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 26 2024 16:23 utc | 514
on telegram there was some talk about some 150ish storshadows/scalps have been delivered to “ukraine”
Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 26 2024 17:32 utc | 522
Why are you not participating in the SMO?
LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 17:02 utc | 518
I live in the garden! Could move to US like Marty from Amerika. Why don’t you go to Donbass if you love it so much?
Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 17:50 utc | 523
@521
The best advantage anyone tilting with the USA: it wants to fight at the end of long difficult supply lines.
Posted by: paddy | Nov 26 2024 17:52 utc | 524
Verkhovna Rada registers resolution to dismiss Defense Minister Umerov
A draft resolution to dismiss Rustem Umerov from the post of Defense Minister of Ukraine has appeared on the Verkhovna Rada website.
The draft was registered by Member of Parliament Oleksii Honcharenko, who wrote this on his Telegram channel.
Honcharenko is convinced that Umerov should resign and also receive a prison term.
“Umerov should resign. I registered a resolution to dismiss the Minister of Defense of Ukraine. After his dismissal, there should be criminal cases. And preferably a long prison term. I hope my colleagues will support and we will get rid of this POTUZHNYK as soon as possible,” the MP wrote.
He justified his decision by saying that defective 120-mm mines were delivered to the front for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
“The Ministry of Defense under the leadership of Umerov simply could not produce ammunition properly. The money was allocated. And the ammunition was produced defective. It was adopted and passed all the checks, and already on the FRONTLINE they realized that it was dangerous for personnel.
What to do now? We do not have ammunition. Which we need right now in the defense of Pokrovsk,” added Honcharenko.
Recall that in early November, the Ukrainian military began to complain about defective 120-millimeter mines produced by Ukroboronprom that were delivered to the front. Currently, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has stated that it is investigating the reasons for their abnormal operation.
https://ukranews.com/en/news/1049573-verkhovna-rada-registers-resolution-to-dismiss-defense-minister-umerov
There’s also this about the alleged faulty mortar shells (“mines” seems to be used as a generic translation for artillery/mortar shells):
In October 2024, many enemy mortars noticed oddities in the operation of 120-mm mines. After a time, the mines flew out and immediately fell near the mortars, and if they flew at the target, then one of the three exploded. And it was a problem in October, in some areas the mortar men were left without the normal 120-mm mines at all. Broke out scandal, during the proceedings it turned out that instead of a regular fuse for a 120-mm mine, a fuse from 125-mm tank shells was placed on it. And these mines were made by the Impulse plant in Shostka, Sumy region, on which Iskanders and Geraniums have been flying densely for the third day. So something was delivered!
https://voenhronika.ru/ (via translation ad-on.)
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 17:52 utc | 525
There tare talks in Europe and US about giving nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
I suppose Iran could receive some from Russia too?
Posted by: scc | Nov 26 2024 17:54 utc | 526
@ Justpassinby | Nov 26 2024 17:32 utc | 523
So-called-ukraine does not receive valuable armaments in such quantities.
Judging by range of time between medium-range missile strikes, it takes a while for them to get a shipment for each new strike. One or two major strike missions a week seems to be their absolute maximum ratio (which is very rare), always followed by long lulls.
Russian missile interdiction, resulting in spectacular explosions, must have forced NATO to drip feed supplies for quite a while now. Unless something changed, but I see no reason why it would.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 26 2024 17:54 utc | 527
resulting in spectacular explosions
Posted by: boneless | Nov 26 2024 17:54 utc | 528
Ships in Odessa? Yes, but a lot of transport is done by truck from Poland or Romania or Moldova. No highways are hit, no fuel shortage, no trains without electricity, no one hits bridges anymore. No smo, no problem. Himars hit and run or artillery hit and run still works, Russia did not send enough troops and drones to find them and for Nato is very cheap to do. It’s clear Nato can’t find enough kamikaze pilots so they may attempt the Bibi method
Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 18:19 utc | 529
The profit-seeking end all.
the system of division of parts contracts among numbers of states
the Senators who steer the contracts to their states
the graft
the cost overruns
the delays
the inferior product
the parts that don’t fit or don’t work
the NATO distribution system
and the profit seeking end all
its a shite system for manufacturing weapons or anything else
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 26 2024 18:28 utc | 530
Because of the attack of drones in Ternopil only two hours a day will be light
After the night attack of Russian drones today, November 26, in Ternopil introduced strict power outage schedules
This is reported by RegioNews with reference to information on the website of “Ternopoloblenergo”.
According to the published schedule, the lights will only be turned on for two hours a day.
Director of JSC “Ternopoloblenergo” Andrey Leschuk noted that the substation, which was hit by Russian drones, healed the entire city of Ternopil.
It is also known that the company has developed network outage schedules to supply electricity to each microdistrict of the city.
Recall that due to damage to the power grid as a result of an enemy attack on November 26 , there is no power supply in Ternopil.
It was also reported that Russian UAVs damaged one of the objects of critical infrastructure of the Ternopil region.
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ternopolshchina/1732626540-cherez-ataku-droniv-u-ternopoli-lishe-dvi-godini-na-dobu-bude-svitlo (via translation add-on.)
Winter is coming…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 18:30 utc | 531
… And most importantly. A lot of people have already reported that the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists. By the way, since yesterday, the reservation for mobilization has been removed from the plant’s employees. It seems, indeed, they have nowhere else to work…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 18:39 utc | 532
Posted by: Milites | Nov 26 2024 2:05 utc | 402
Trump’s imminent arrival and the collapse of the frontline will end the party, then the hangover begins.
Your words in God’s ears.
I’m reliably informed that a certain countries leader was in disbelief that Trump won, and that they are scrambling to formulate some sort of not-Kamala policies. Incredible to think these people have literally thousands of people advising them, yet they still get it wrong. Then again this countries governmental incompetence is legendary!
Yes, that was positively funny. Now Orban’s the man! 🙂
Posted by: Konami | Nov 26 2024 18:43 utc | 533
There have been two American guided and directed ATACM missile strikes on a RF S400 site and a RF airbase in last 48 hours in the Kursk area of Russia…..
That being said we can expect another RF RS26 hypersonic air strike on some key UAF site at any minute…..
But where ?
Odessa port? Kieve HQ ? EU 750kv transmission centers ? Rail bridges and locomotive yards ? Dneiper bridges? Dneiper dams?
Biden is now doubling down on RF attacks (he is really insane now and out of the picture, so the decisions are really being made by Toni Blinken-sky and Lloyd Raytheon) before DJT takes office in order to handcuff the new administration!!! Tucker and Rogan are spot on !!
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 26 2024 18:49 utc | 534
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 18:39 utc | 533
CNN sent one of their UK cunts to Dnipro to report on the strike, and the poor bastard was not allowed anywhere near the plant. He was reduced to showing off the recovered “parts” of the weapon and showing official footage of Zelensky.
This is indirect evidence that the plant was fucked good and hard.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 26 2024 18:49 utc | 535
since yesterday, the reservation for mobilization has been removed from the plant’s employees.
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A thousand photos would be no more compelling as evidence as this one little factoid!
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 26 2024 18:52 utc | 536
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 25 2024 23:20 utc | 362
“If we’re at a place where we’re lumping pensioners and farmers in with private schools and calling all three “traditional conservatives” or traditional conservative causes, the conversation is moot.
I couldn’t care less what Brits want to call Starmer’s New Labour party, but if that is “left wing” then those words have lost all meaning.”
It’s harder for us Americans to express a clear understanding of British political parties because they aren’t exactly analogous to ours, and all parties shift their focus and priorities over time. Our Democrats used to be the party of blue collar workers, the anti-war movement, labor and farmers (i.e. the DFL here in Minnesota). Now the Democrats are Big Business (open borders/cheap labor), Big Tech, progressive gender activism and MIC sponsored military adventurism. They still own the Environmentalist movement. With that kind of identity shifting it’s hard to place any party in the Left/Right spectrum in a way that makes sense. I suspect it’s similar in British parties
Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 26 2024 18:53 utc | 537
This is indirect evidence that the plant was fucked good and hard.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 26 2024 18:49 utc | 536
Absolutely agree; in this case the absence of evidence (that the plant exists) is evidence of absence (of the plant).
Five days after the impact, nobody can show a picture of anything still standing says it all.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 19:02 utc | 538
Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 26 2024 18:53 utc | 538
All major parties tend to lean to the other side, as they believe their (traditional) basis is secure and must conquer the undecided middle, and even moderates from the oposition.
But it is only secure for a generation or so and then after two or three where they didn’t believe it, places have swapped.
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 19:11 utc | 539
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 26 2024 18:49 utc | 536
Addendum: pure speculation on my part, but if Ukraine/NATO were putting together some nuclear mischief (either a functioning device or “dirty” conventional bomb) then some of the “ingredients” may now be scattered around the site, and the lockdown/cordon is partly to do with looking for any contamination and cleaning up the mess.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 19:24 utc | 540
The Biden regime has lost it completely and is risking a nuclear war with Russia over what is basically a money laundering scheme in Ukraine. What’s even worse is that Trump is remaining completely silent while his inner circle of advisors are jumping up and down saying they are of “one-mind” with the Biden regime. I can only think of two reasons this would happen, 1 – Trump is doing a poor man’s rehash of Nixon/Kissinger’s madmen negotiating strategy, publicly supporting an irrational policy in order to appear strong in the lead up to negotiating so you can trade off those policies they had no intension of actually following through with. 2 – Trump has been bought off by the Neo-Cons and that’s the reason he was allowed to win the election (the moment the CIA-backed Washington post refused to back Kamala, I was worried that a deal had been struck with Trump to allow the Ukraine mess to escalate). If it is option 1, I think Trump has disastrously misread the situation as the Russians have no reason to think he is any different than Biden and they (the Russians) may decide the best way to deal with Trump is to smack NATO upside the head with attacks on NATO bases in either Poland or Romania, which would leave a Trump in the same position of Reagon after the marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, escalate or walk away and I dont believe Trump has the political support he would need in order to walk away after some big attack like that.
If Trump is serious about peace with Russia and ending the war in Ukraine, he’ll need to make a big public comment soon denouncing the Biden regime’s actions (ideally this week), otherwise it will look to the Russian that Trump is just another empty suit being puppeted by the MIC.
Posted by: Kadath | Nov 26 2024 19:31 utc | 541
Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 17:50 utc | 524
It’s the Afu that needs cannon fodder, so you can go.
Once you change the outcome, maybe RF will be in need of cannon fodder.
By the way they have gazilions of north Koreans, accordingly to Zelensky, and, in a few weeks, Martian, Venusians Pleyiadians and whatever. 😁
Posted by: Mario | Nov 26 2024 19:37 utc | 542
Re: Paranaense @ 538,
I’m from Canada, and the British system is roughly in line with what you think. The big difference is that Pre-Tony Blair Labour (pre-1990s) was much, much more blue collar than the Democrats ever pretended to be. lots of Labour politicians were Trade Unionists, even Communists. Back in the 70’s One of the Labour shadow cabinet members was a licensed plumber, they’d always give speeches going the whole, my fellow union Brothers & Sisters. Most of the communist Labour members were Maoists or Stalinist (not Trotskyites like in the US), so they were fairly nationalist and anti-unskilled-immigration. Tony Blair changed all of that and you could really feel it, as you went from having Labour stump speeches in local pubs to renting out Banquet halls and hotels. Boris Johnstone tries to pretend that he’s a common British bloke to appeal to British working class, but he acts more like a SNL spoof of what a blue collar British worker is like (Boris is actually highly educated and went to the best British Public schools)
Note: British Public school is the term the British use for a Ivy league school like Harvard in the US
Posted by: Kadath | Nov 26 2024 19:57 utc | 543
Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 17:50 utc | 524
##########
I’m not the one sitting in the West calling the SMO fake.
I was hoping you had a good excuse like a disability, perhaps missing a testicle, or mild brain damage caused by obesity-induced sleep apnea.
Tragically, I come to learn that you’re just an online hypocrite.
Sad!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 20:01 utc | 544
Posted by: paddy | Nov 26 2024 17:52 utc | 525
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The Americans will identify their supply lines as short and efficient.
The power of delusion can do anything. Men become women, men have pregnancies, etc.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 20:04 utc | 545
Posted by: Mario | Nov 26 2024 19:37 utc | 543
Don’t forget the Klingons and the Romulans, at which point the hero, Captain James T Trump, commander of the federation starship USS Currency Printer, enters the battle and blasts everyone bigly with the, hitherto unknown, bombast torpedo…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 20:09 utc | 546
A review of the historical reasons why, “NATO Faces Capitulation in Europe,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/nato-faces-capitulation-in-europe
Eighthman | Nov 26 2024 2:33 utc | 409
How the f**k did a personality such as Starmer ever enter politics?
He’s not all that bright. He is incredibly cheap ! (Works for free clothing !) And he does what he’s told !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canéde | Nov 26 2024 20:17 utc | 548
Can this be true?
Reuters – A new ballistic missile fired by Russia at the Ukrainian city of Dnipro last week carried multiple warheads but no explosives, and caused limited damage, two senior Ukrainian government sources said.
Posted by: Salmon | Nov 26 2024 20:31 utc | 549
Could be the case.
“Really interesting we’ve only had one Ukrainian strike deep inside Russia since that was greenlit. I’m guessing Russia’s ballistic missile response with the threat of more to come has prompted Washington, London and Paris to tell Kiev to not do it again. Quick turnaround”
Kit Klarenberg.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 20:33 utc | 550
I can’t fault the logic here.
“Imagine this defense on a murder charge
“I wasn’t involved in this, I provided the gun, the bullets, the location of the victim, and showed him how to aim, but I didn’t pull the trigger”
That’s the logic the US and West use when saying they’re not directly involved in this war.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 20:36 utc | 551
@ Salmon | Nov 26 2024 20:31 utc | 550
Since you’re asking essentially the same question a second time in the same thread, – you didn’t read the thread. This raises a logical query: why are you posing questions in a thread you do not read? Can’t help but lean in towards the obvious answer, judging by the contents of your posts.
I know they won’t read this either, but hey, someone might pick up on what I noticed and not waste time with them in the future.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 26 2024 20:41 utc | 552
I’m not the one sitting in the West calling the SMO fake.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 20:01 utc | 545
You’re asking someone to take part in a fake SMO?
Posted by: burak | Nov 26 2024 20:41 utc | 553
Weapons the English government have given to Ukraine – not including Storm-Shadow missiles.
https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/britains-kursk-invasion-backfires-4a1
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 20:43 utc | 554
Interesting stuff – and probably true.
“Western armies don’t have the people, tanks, artillery, EW, shells or drones, or frontline experience Russia has. None of it. And they’re not even getting trained in this. Ukrainian soldiers openly say their NATO training was completely useless for actual warfighting.”
Kit Klarenberg.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 20:45 utc | 555
Posted by: Salmon | Nov 26 2024 20:31 utc | 550
M’kay, you ask “Can this be true?”
And then quote Reuters, who, in turn, quote Ukrainian government sources (who don’t seem to have any names, or departments, or job titles BTW).
You have the choice to do your own due diligence, which could include asking why Reuters is unable to post photographs of the Yuzhmash site dated after 21 November…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 20:45 utc | 556
JRL @ 541
Sounds likely. Also likely the underground facilities were being used as AFU HQ and basing for Americans/NATO. Who are now dead. Don’t want bits and pieces of that showing up.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 26 2024 21:02 utc | 557
@wp007 | Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:31:00 GMT | 346
In the USA there has long been, and now more strongly again, a group of politicians who are talking about a “regionally limited” nuclear war.
At the same time I read two US military officers saying (roughly) “we will be able to maintain the dominant position even in a nuclear war”
When I first read it I thought it was typical overestimation of one’s own abilities, propaganda bluster. But if the positioning of the NATO nuclear powers is different, then the idea behind it is to burn Europe and leave only England and the USA as “survivors” who can then exploit the world for themselves.
Then everything that is happening in the script now makes sense.
A pawn sacrifice?
Posted by: persiflo | Nov 26 2024 21:03 utc | 558
https://t.me/geromanat/39683
Translation:
“Sumy. In the background, something is smoking, the wreckage of ZR falls on the roadway.”
Traffic is moving along a road, something smoking heavily half a mile away, then a flaming chunk of something drops on the road, missing the traffic by inches. Remains of AA missile?
Can anyone tell me what ZR is likely to mean?
In Russian “Сумы. На заднем фоне что-то дымится, обломки ЗР падают на проезжую часть.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 559
Posted by: burak | Nov 26 2024 20:41 utc | 554
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I am empowering rk to make the “fake SMO” real by climbing into a trench and showing those soldiers how it should be done.
If he really thinks it is fake, and believes that it should change, it is on him to roll his sleeves up and create that better world he aspires to.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 560
Russian soldiers explain how the war really is … *link*
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:10 utc | 561
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 26 2024 21:02 utc | 558
Your speculation is just as valid. I shall be tuning my antennae for increased reports of deaths of NATO personnel in hiking/skiing/boating/helicopter/training accidents.
Come to think of it, we haven’t had a decent Chinook crash for some time…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 26 2024 21:19 utc | 562
In chess, there is no point in insisting when the game is already clearly lost. In this case, the king is placed on the board, giving up.
But sometimes it’s worth persevering…
Once, in an interschool tournament, my game was lost against the other team’s best player, but I continued playing to wear him down (to general outrage).
Only after our other player had finished his game did I lay down the king. Afterwards, we beat (the team).
I know I wasn’t “ethical”, but this concept doesn’t make any sense in this (war) sport. There is no rule there that requires cordial greetings or pleasantries.
It’s War, stupid!
P S. It’s good to win with a good checkmate!
Posted by: Willian in The Sky | Nov 26 2024 21:19 utc | 563
I am empowering rk to make the “fake SMO” real by climbing into a trench and showing those soldiers how it should be done.
If he really thinks it is fake, and believes that it should change, it is on him to roll his sleeves up and create that better world he aspires to.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 561
:))) From the bottom up, single-handedly?!! Forcing the government/Putin/oligarchs etc. to behave and make it a real one!!
Posted by: burak | Nov 26 2024 21:20 utc | 564
Dmitry Medvedev
US politicians and journalists are discussing the consequences of providing Kiev with nuclear weapons in earnest. Looks like my sad joke about crazy senile Biden, who’s eager to go out with a bang and take a substantial part of humanity with him, is becoming dangerously real. Giving nukes to a country that’s at war with the greatest nuclear power? The idea is so absurd it makes one suspect Joe The Walking Dead and all those weighing the pros and cons of such a step have massive paranoid psychosis.
As ludicrous as these proposals are, here’s my take:
1) the very threat of transferring nuclear weapons to the Kiev regime will be seen as preparation for nuclear conflict with Russia;
2) the fact of transferring such weapons may be considered as the launch of an attack against our country in accordance with Paragraph 19 of the “Basic Principles of State Policy on Nuclear Deterrence”.
The consequences are obvious.
https://t.me/medvedev_telegramE/36
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 21:22 utc | 565
Lysias | Nov 26 2024 16:16 utc | 512 “Where are the ATACMS missiles being used to attack Russia being stored?”
ATACMS ‘sent’ to Ukraine, just like the Storm Shadows and SCALPs, are actually sent to and stored in NATO logistics hubs in Poland, Romania or where ever. ATACMS are only shipped in small quantities for specific missions to temporary staging areas inside Ukraine a few days before being used. Crews, launchers and missile racks would only come together when used. No warehouse full of them in Ukraine to strike, if that’s what you’re thinking.
“I have read that the number of these missiles available is very limited. Is that true?”
Depends – US probably has a few thousand left – nobody knows for sure. All US ATACMS will eventually be replaced by the more capable PrSM (uses same MRLS or HIMARS to launch), but that will take years. They’re being delivered since last December, but getting 100 new PrSMs will not free up 100 ATACMS any time soon.
The oldest lots of ATACMS (shorter range) in US inventory were 30 years old and of questionable reliability – some were already being destroyed. Ukraine probably got theirs from the ‘marginal’ lots that were still serviceable.
Question everyone has is *where* exactly are the stocks that the US pulled for Ukraine? Some .mil guys argue that we would not have stocked NATO strategic stockpiles in European logistics hubs with any of the older lots, and the shipment sent to Ukraine were actually from the US. For some reason (anyone’s guess), the US now *seems to* have decided to only supply (from NATO stockpiles) the newer, long-range ATACMS to Ukraine and that’s part of what prompted Biden’s ‘long range strikes’ announcement. That original shipment of older, short-range ATACMS must be almost gone, so the US had to decide whether to send another batch of old ones, or use what we already have in Europe.
One of the logical reasons for the change would be reliability of the older missiles. US soldiers – er… ‘Lockheed technicians’, are loading, aiming and firing them, and are prime targets for Russia while doing so. The missiles better work. Maybe they’re not – we don’t know.
Another reason is the short-range ones are of limited use lately since the best Ukraine can do is hit a few targets in the first tier of the Russian logistics chain. It takes several ATACMS ($1M each) to get a few through Russian AD. Striking major hubs or infrastructure in Russia’s second-tier logistics chain further back would be far more beneficial to Ukraine’s failing military effort (not that it matters anymore), but that requires the reach of the ‘newer’ 300 km ATACMS.
So there are possibly some ‘old stock’ ATACMS (hundreds?) left in the US stateside inventory. There are even more ‘new stock’ ATACMS (couple thousand?), including hundreds stored in NATO’s European logistics hubs. The Pentagon says those stocks are already *dangerously* depleted.
Never underestimate *crazy* though – political will determines how many the US can and is willing to spare despite four-star generals crying about how the stockpiles are desperately needed by NATO for WWIII. They’ll always scrounge up a few to keep the trickle to Ukraine going. In any case, I doubt there’s enough for multi-ATACMS strikes with any frequency going forward. A few every now and then for show, but nothing sustainable.
Ukraine,
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 26 2024 13:34 utc | 485
IMHO, the NATO countries provoked Russia, more or less as described in Overextending and Unbalancing Russia.
But it matters little whether Russia’s actions were “provoked” or “unprovoked”. In war, the question is not who is right and who is wrong. The question is who won and who lost.
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 26 2024 21:31 utc | 567
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 560
> Can anyone tell me what ZR is likely to mean?
Anti-aircraft missile. Not 100% sure though. I may be fluent in Russian, but my military knowledge is miniscule.
Posted by: 俺様 | Nov 26 2024 21:44 utc | 568
🔥 Moscow’s Warning to NATO: ATACMS Escalation Will Be Answered
Ukraine’s reckless use of US-supplied ATACMS missiles to strike deep into Russia’s Kursk Region has not gone unnoticed, or unanswered. Over the past three days, Kiev has launched long-range missile strikes on targets in Lotaryovka and the Kursk-Vostochny airfield, causing casualties and damaging critical infrastructure. The Russian Ministry of Defense has now made it clear: a response is coming, and it will not be symbolic.
The strikes, authorized by the Biden administration, mark a dangerous crossing of red lines. The November 23 attack on Lotaryovka targeted an S-400 missile division, leaving three Russian servicemen injured. Two days later, eight more missiles were fired at the Kursk-Vostochny airfield, with Russian air defenses intercepting seven. Still, one missile found its mark, injuring two servicemen and causing minor damage. These provocations, carried out with US-made weaponry, confirm that NATO’s fingerprints are all over this escalation.
Russia’s response has already begun. President Putin announced the deployment of the state-of-the-art Oreshnik hypersonic ballistic missile, capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The missile’s debut strike against a military-industrial facility in Dnepropetrovsk served as both a message and a warning. Putin described the strike as a “combat test” but cautioned that future tests will be “decisive and mirror-like” if Western-backed provocations persist. The devastation wrought by a single Oreshnik strike—using only a non-nuclear warhead—has sent shockwaves through Western capitals.
Let there be no illusions: Moscow will not sit idly by as NATO continues its proxy war and support of state-terror fascist-puppets under the guise of “defending democracy”. The use of ATACMS inside Russia’s internationally recognized borders has exposed the West’s direct involvement in this conflict. Russia’s response will be calculated, powerful, and unambiguous. As Putin warned, the stakes are rising, and the next chapter of this dangerous game will be written by those who understand the price of reckless escalation. NATO’s bluff is being called, and the consequences will continue to shatter the façade of Western invincibility.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/114029
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 21:45 utc | 569
The loss of Russian energy and the German Green Party policies are killing German industry. It’s the only world class manufacturing country in Europe, and other European countries are feeling the same joint pressures.
DUESSELDORF, Nov 25 (Reuters) – Thyssenkrupp’s (TKAG.DE) steel business plans to cut some 40% of its workforce over the coming years, it announced on Monday in the latest painful overhaul of a German industrial giant, with workers promising fierce resistance. Germany’s largest steelmaker, a division of Thyssenkrupp AG, is under pressure from cheaper Asian competitors, high power prices and a weakening global economy, leading to operating losses in four of the past five years.
And it’s not just steel
“Germany’s industrial star has been fading in recent months as production slows, foreign demand ebbs and costs rise. Other big German companies are considering shutting down factories. Last week, workers and management at carmaker Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) held a third round of crunch talks over pay cuts and possible factory shutdowns in Germany.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 21:51 utc | 570
The socialist part was to appeal to the working class. The whole point was to peel the working class away from communism and turn them into commie hating nationalists.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 26 2024 13:46 utc | 487
Exactly right. It was a party created in large part by elements of the defeated Reichswehr and sponsored by the oligarchy. There was nothing ‘socialist’ about it beyond the cynical use of the term in the party’s name. The Strasserite faction that was naive or stupid enough to take the name at face value, however distorted their interpretation of the term, were wiped out in the ‘night of the long knives’.
Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 21:52 utc | 571
The socialist part was to appeal to the working class. The whole point was to peel the working class away from communism and turn them into commie hating nationalists.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 26 2024 13:46 utc | 487
Exactly right. It was a party created in large part by elements of the defeated Reichswehr and sponsored by the oligarchy. There was nothing ‘socialist’ about it beyond the cynical use of the term in the party’s name. The Strasserite faction that was naive or stupid enough to take the name at face value, however distorted their interpretation of the term, were wiped out in the ‘night of the long knives’.
Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 21:52 utc | 572
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 21:45 utc | 570
The Kremlin will issue a twelve hour warning to Kiev that a major target is about to be hit, without spelling it out. and theyll do this every time kiev launches ATCMS etc into russia.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 22:03 utc | 573
Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 22:03 utc | 574
Smart tactic.
Issue warning, see who runs, where from and where to.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 26 2024 22:05 utc | 574
Can anyone tell me what ZR is likely to mean?
In Russian “Сумы. На заднем фоне что-то дымится, обломки ЗР падают на проезжую часть.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 560
Google translation to German:
“Sumy. Im Hintergrund raucht etwas, Trümmer des Flugabwehrsystems fallen auf die Fahrbahn.”
And then from German to English:
“Sumy. There is smoke in the background, debris from the anti-aircraft system is falling onto the road.”
Posted by: NoName | Nov 26 2024 22:10 utc | 575
@HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 22:03 utc | 574
Your suggested strategy I suppose. But it would be ‘entertaining’.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 22:11 utc | 576
Southfront:
Hackers of the Combatant group hacked the archive of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmygal, where they discovered the documents confirming that Ukrainian doctors found HIV and hepatitis in the blood supplied by NATO countries to support wounded Ukrainian servicemen.
I have no words.
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 26 2024 22:16 utc | 577
Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 22:03 utc | 574
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The Kremlin should issue a warning, but not to Kiev.
Just a warning.
Posted by: scc | Nov 26 2024 22:23 utc | 578
Patrick Lawrence: Biden’s ‘Samson Option’
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/11/25/patrick-lawrence-bidens-samson-option/
“…We know now the risks those devoted to prolonging the imperium’s final phase will take in defense of the no-longer-defensible:
All risks are acceptable as they cling to power. They will risk another world war; they will risk nuclear annihilation.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 27 2024 0:26 utc | 579
To complement my previous article: As the situation slowly deteriorates, “No Outward Fear Shown by Lavrov & Putin as NATO Publicly Threatens to Use Nukes,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/no-outward-fear-shown-by-lavrov-and
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/bulletin-russia-issues-notam-kapustin-yar-tonight-11-00-pm-est-thru-11-30-2024
Looks like Russia is going to launch some more Oresnick missisles inresponce to the 3 western supplies missisles that the west just hit Russia with.
I wonder when the west will get the message. My guess is that this will be at least 3 missisles launched at American bases / military targets somewhere or other outside of US home territory.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 0:53 utc | 581
@ PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 0:53 utc | 582 with the more fireworks from Russia link…thanks
I want to see Russia and Iran launch missiles at the same time…..
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 27 2024 1:14 utc | 582
My guess is that this will be at least 3 missisles launched at American bases / military targets somewhere or other outside of US home territory.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 0:53 utc | 582
Nah mate. RF retaliation at any “US bases” is extremely unlikely to cause any US Admin change. Washington just thinks — “Pfft. 50 or so servicemen killed and a few million in infrastructure wasted. Pfft. No biggie. We fight on”.
You can only defeat an enemy AT THE PLACES OF FIGHTING and/or COMMAND CENTRES OF FIGHTING or by DIPLOMATIC SURRENDER. Maybe Rammstein + Romanian airfields + a British warship. But better White House lawn or Pentagon carpark!
So called retaliation is useless, symbolic. Even the Yushmash strike won’t stop the war in any way. Sure, a groovy new missile, but 1 factory is not an end. Nor are 20 more Ukie strikes. NATO, UK, US must feel more direct heat.
Posted by: Not-a-Troll | Nov 27 2024 1:21 utc | 583
ZH has a posting up with the title
Russia Launches Record 188 Drones Against Critical Infrastructure In Ukraine
Quote
Russia in the overnight hours launched a record number of drones against Ukraine in a single night, Ukraine’s air force said, tallying that 188 Iranian Shahed and other drones entered Ukraine.
Ukraine says its air defenses shot down 76 drones across 17 oblasts, while it stated another 95 were “lost” – possibly brought down through electronic warfare. Some of the drones reportedly came from Belarus.
“During the night attack, the enemy launched a record number of Shahed strike unmanned aerial vehicles and unidentified drones,” the air force said Tuesday.
However, some critical infrastructure was damaged, including parts of the national power grid as well as apartment buildings. No casualties were reported despite the huge number of inbound drones.
“The air raid alert in the Kyiv region overnight lasted more than seven hours,” reports Associated Press. “Russia is trying to unnerve civilians and wear down their will to resist in the almost 3-year-old war.”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 27 2024 1:29 utc | 584
Can anyone tell me what ZR is likely to mean?
In Russian “Сумы. На заднем фоне что-то дымится, обломки ЗР падают на проезжую часть.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 560
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зенитная ракета
Posted by: hopehely | Nov 27 2024 1:37 utc | 585
NATO, UK, US must feel more direct heat.
Yeah I know. But I don’t think .RUS is going to do that right now.
I think they’ll escalate gradually, until they don’t and it’s the
White House lawn.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 1:44 utc | 586
It has taken three days for the Russian government to admit that there have been new attacks. There must have been some internal discussions. All these project weakness. Haven’t they considered all these possibilities long ago and decided on the appropriate actions? They’re still talking about dire consequences. The enemy doesn’t act like that. They’re decisive and without delay.
Posted by: burak | Nov 27 2024 2:07 utc | 588
@ burak | Nov 27 2024 2:07 utc | 589
The enemy is a psychopathic mass-murdering moron who can’t remember what they did this morning or what they will do this evening, so they do whatever comes into their insane head in the moment. That’s a bit of a stretch from “decisive”. “Russia must do things like the US” is one of the worst arguments I’ve seen throughout this conflict.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 27 2024 2:17 utc | 589
No, I didn’t say “Russia must do things like the US”. And the mass-murdering evil entity’s actions cannot be explained away just by their psychopathy and idiocy. They’ve got a strategy since 1940s.
Posted by: burak | Nov 27 2024 2:27 utc | 590
It has taken three days for the Russian government to admit that there have been new attacks.
Posted by: burak | Nov 27 2024 2:07 utc | 589
The attacks don’t really matter. Russia has a game plan that is working and they will continue with that plan through to completion.
The attacks, in that context are a flea bite on the arse of the elephant.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 2:32 utc | 591
The NOTAM begins at 04:00 .RUS time so I reckon we’ll see what their reaponse has been by daylight uk time in just a few hours.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 2:37 utc | 592
@ burak | Nov 27 2024 2:27 utc | 591
Too bad nobody told them what their plan supposed to be, judging from all the flailing. They are supposed to be taking on China by now. China. They can’t even deal with poor backwards rooskies after more than a decade of focused effort.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 27 2024 2:41 utc | 593
They can’t even deal with poor backwards rooskies after more than a decade of focused effort.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 27 2024 2:41 utc | 594
They’re neither Poor, nor backwards as you’ll soon find out when the collapse of the dollar starts with a vengeance, and they objectively start to trounce NATO.
It’s when, not IF.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 2:50 utc | 594
@ 594 Added the below to to your statement
China. They can’t even deal with poor backwards Yemenis after more than a decade of focused effort.
Posted by: golddigger | Nov 27 2024 3:00 utc | 596
I thought I was sufficiently ironic.
Posted by: boneless | Nov 27 2024 3:00 utc | 596
I’ve got 2 children under 2 in my mid 50’s and can’t sheet back to sleep so I missed it!
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 27 2024 3:02 utc | 597
Oreshnik? Hah… The US is going to start getting our own hypersonic IRBM. Soon… Real soon. 2025, maybe.
Dark Eagle: The Army’s New Hypersonic Missile Can Strike from 1,725 Miles Away
Take THAT, Putin! Er, except it won’t have the range (2800 km vs. Oreshnik’s 3500 – 5000 km). And the Dark Eagle hypersonic glide vehicle HGV is the warhead vs. Oreshnik’s six independently targetable HGVs, which come in unitary warhead or six hypersonic submunition-dispensing versions. And the Dark Eagle at Mach 5 is a little slower than the Oreshnik’s Mach 10. One aspect the US Dark Eagle is sure to surpass the Oreshnik is in unit price. Thanks to cost overruns, the Dark Eagle program has reached $41M per missile when finally delivered. Sorry, US taxpayers – that’s expected to creep up just a bit more because [reasons].
Run for cover you nazis, here comes some more ballistic washing machines.
Posted by: windship | Nov 27 2024 3:20 utc | 600