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November 24, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-282
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Konami | Nov 26 2024 1:55 utc | 400 Posted by: Milites | Nov 26 2024 2:05 utc | 401 @ Milites | Nov 26 2024 1:59 utc | 401 Posted by: james | Nov 26 2024 2:08 utc | 402 i think it is a huge stretch to think trump is going to walk away from ukraine… he gave shit to biden for doing this in afganistan.. Posted by: james | Nov 26 2024 2:10 utc | 403 Borell is selling Europeans a dead-end deli counter nob as a retail franchise opportunity again. Posted by: I forgot | Nov 26 2024 2:18 utc | 404 @ Milites Posted by: burak | Nov 26 2024 2:20 utc | 406 https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1980499/uk-france-in-talks-deploy Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 26 2024 2:33 utc | 408 Posted by: james | Nov 26 2024 2:08 utc | 403 Posted by: Milites | Nov 26 2024 2:37 utc | 409 Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 26 2024 2:33 utc | 409 Posted by: Milites | Nov 26 2024 2:41 utc | 410 @ Milites | Nov 26 2024 1:59 utc | 401 Posted by: I forgot | Nov 26 2024 2:44 utc | 411 https://youtu.be/REB-BAAe7_Q?si=r2SbJsQ0_p7qWedX Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 26 2024 2:58 utc | 412 Ritter is of the opinion that Trump played the american people…No CHANGE in Ukraine, none! Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 26 2024 3:20 utc | 413 Posted by: Anton Gerashchenko | Nov 25 2024 23:28 utc | 364
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 3:26 utc | 414 Ritter is of the opinion that Trump played the american people…No CHANGE in Ukraine, none! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 3:27 utc | 415 The tragedy is that Ritter voted for Trump and worked to get votes for him. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 3:29 utc | 416 i think it is a huge stretch to think trump is going to walk away from ukraine… he gave shit to biden for doing this in afganistan.. Posted by: frithguild | Nov 26 2024 3:40 utc | 417 They are all pinkish (to a lesser or greater degree) of authoritarians, who seek to impose their perfect world on people. G.K. Chesterton had it right about the worst tyrant not being evil, but thinking they are doing good. After all Sauron just wanted the world to be ordered! Posted by: frithguild | Nov 26 2024 3:47 utc | 418 Posted by: james | Nov 25 2024 23:36 utc | 367 Posted by: watcher | Nov 26 2024 3:49 utc | 419 Sorry to exit the discourse after my long comment. I’d planned an early Thanksgiving dinner for tonight since we’re travelling on the holiday to take in Taj Majal’s sounds, and I’m the chef. What seems to be happening is an indication that the West finally listened to Putin and are taking his advice that they “think about it” just as we are except from a differing perspective. I still want to write a longer essay on the issue, but that’s not going to happen until tomorrow, which I’m sure will present new twists.
Completely unmentioned is the problem posed by rogue nuclear armed nations that refuse to abide by Humanity’s laws who are almost at the point of saying: Do as we say or we’ll blow up the planet. Completely unmentioned is the problem posed by rogue nuclear armed nations that refuse to abide by Humanity’s laws who are almost at the point of saying: Do as we say or we’ll blow up the planet. Posted by: frithguild | Nov 26 2024 4:14 utc | 421 @ frithguild Posted by: james | Nov 26 2024 4:33 utc | 422 *** my feeling is a lot of folks will be disappointed.. Posted by: frithguild | Nov 26 2024 5:07 utc | 423 https://youtu.be/xxxxxxx Posted by: Wtf | Nov 26 2024 5:08 utc | 424 Borzzikman: “Putin is preparing to launch an Oreshnik with a nuclear a warhead”.@413 Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 5:19 utc | 425 Posted by: Anton Gerashchenko | Nov 25 2024 23:28 utc | 364 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 5:27 utc | 426 Is the talk of direct troop injection by UK and France out of fear of loosing Odessa? Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 5:35 utc | 428 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 5:35 utc | 429 Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 26 2024 5:40 utc | 429 Judge Nap: Pepe Escobar Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 5:44 utc | 430 You better watch what you say or Anton might put you on Myrotvorets… Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 5:45 utc | 431 Judge Nap’s interview with Ritter today. Is a must-listen, IMO. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 6:01 utc | 432 Taking Odessa is the knockout blow to the west,cascading effect felt globally. Also the beginning of the end of empire 413, 425, 426 — Alistair Crooke on Judge Nap today explains that Putin now has escalation dominance with the hypersonic ballistic missile Oreshnik without having to revert to the nuclear option. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 3:29 utc | 417 Posted by: Badjoke | Nov 26 2024 6:38 utc | 435 Underground weapons factories being made by Germany in Ukraine will be destroyed by Oreshnik missiles within several days. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 26 2024 6:46 utc | 436 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 5:27 utc | 427 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 6:57 utc | 437 Besides, Ukrainian bureaucrats are all crooks. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 7:02 utc | 438
LOL! Posted by: retroflecks | Nov 26 2024 7:24 utc | 439 Underground weapons factories being made by Germany in Ukraine will be destroyed by Oreshnik missiles within several days. Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 7:24 utc | 440 @HERMIUS | Nov 26 2024 5:19 utc | 426 Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 7:27 utc | 441 @frithguild | Nov 26 2024 3:47 utc | 419
In that model Pyongyang is the one representing independence. Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 7:33 utc | 442 Learn a lesson from the banderites in ukraine, encoaraged and funded by the western warmonger’s to be violent zenathobic. exclusive and violent toward Russian language speakers, armed by the west, and sent to their death, on mass. Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 26 2024 7:33 utc | 443 @Karlof1. 316 Posted by: Dany | Nov 26 2024 7:35 utc | 444 Analyse RT Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 7:41 utc | 445 My previous post “RT Analysis” may be related to this report on German TV (Welt & NTV) Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 7:51 utc | 446 Sylenski is threatening Russia because of the attack on the missile plant. Posted by: salmon | Nov 26 2024 8:15 utc | 447
Milites, Posted by: jure | Nov 26 2024 8:25 utc | 448 @LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 6:01 utc | 433
I am sometimes critical of Scott Ritter, but I agree this is something you must listen to. Then read the comments on youtube. Every comment goes like this: Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 8:41 utc | 449 It seems that Ukraine again managed to fire long range missiles into Russia and hit a S400 system. Posted by: salmon | Nov 26 2024 8:49 utc | 450 @Johan Kaspar | Nov 25 2024 14:46 utc | 224
All humans are very similar: admitted.
I’m sorry, but your ignorance at this point is laughable, just ask Yuval Noah Harari, or better yet, ask the Palestinians how that’s working out for them. THEY don’t need 8 billion humans, and they’ve been becoming increasingly vocal about it.
shock and awe were 17000 sanctions against Russia. That was supposed to turn the “Ruble to Rubble”. Slow escalation after that was “just give the sanctions time to work”. “Anton Gerashchenko” himself (?) chimed in on MoA tonight to assert that FINALLY the sanctions were having an effect. Hallelujah! or LOL! Posted by: retroflecks | Nov 26 2024 8:54 utc | 451 Posted by: jure | Nov 26 2024 8:25 utc | 449 Posted by: Badjoke | Nov 26 2024 8:56 utc | 452 “Russia set a precedent that could redefine the dynamics of modern conflicts. The decision to rely on conventional missiles initially demonstrates the Kremlin’s strategy: demonstrate strength without immediately risking the worst consequences of a nuclear conflict” Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 9:20 utc | 453 Midget Vlad & his “red lines” are a joke! Posted by: Moscow Exile | Nov 26 2024 9:31 utc | 454 Not even old Soviet weapons were used against Nato’s happy men in Ukr, unless they were dancing in Donbass or Kursk, the only place where smo happens (…) Unless it’s used against useful targets at least in Ukr if not somewhere else. But it’s not used even against Ukr (…) Posted by: 5thcolumn | Nov 26 2024 9:44 utc | 455 Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 9:20 utc | 454 Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 26 2024 10:37 utc | 456 Describing the very pro-big business and system-friendly Starmer as far left is probably a far right perspective. Nobody left of say, Oswald Mosley would think Starmer is far left. Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 10:49 utc | 457 https://vz.ru/news/2024/11/26/1299964.html Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 10:58 utc | 458 osted by: Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 10:49 utc | 458 Posted by: watcher | Nov 26 2024 11:00 utc | 459 This guy knows what’s coming down the line – even with Trump in office – striking Nato/European military bases in Europe might be a foregone conclusion. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 11:01 utc | 460
Be thankful at least that the individual to whom you wrote the above reply did not trot out the line about the NSAPD being ‘left wing’ or socialist’ because it had ‘socialist’ and ‘worker’ in its title. Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 11:14 utc | 461 460 – Originally a Tory, disappointed by the outcome of the First World War he was in Labour, then set up a “New Party” that went nowhere but showed some fascist characteristics. After that he established the BUF, his most famous or notorious political home. Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 11:16 utc | 462 Scotland and Russia have history – so this shouldn’t be a surprise. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 11:25 utc | 463 https://t.me/fighter_bomber/18913
Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 26 2024 11:30 utc | 464
So what? Before he became a blackshirted tool of the capitalist oligarchy, Mussolini started out as a member of the PSI, which was the Italian party affiliated with the Second International. If only PCI partisans could have hoisted him up a lamppost on a rope twice – once for being a turncoat and the second time for being a fascist.. Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 11:30 utc | 465 Why would anyone try to “rescue” a British merc who is a complete nobody? Posted by: Catilina | Nov 26 2024 11:30 utc | 466 Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 10:58 utc | 459 Posted by: Cynic | Nov 26 2024 11:36 utc | 467 james @404: “i think it is a huge stretch to think trump is going to walk away from ukraine… he gave shit to biden for doing this in afganistan..” Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 26 2024 11:36 utc | 468 Caracal, Aegis Ashore, might get lucky and avoid a visit. Posted by: necromancer | Nov 26 2024 11:37 utc | 469 Caracal, Aegis Ashore, might get lucky and avoid a visit.
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Nov 26 2024 11:45 utc | 470 NATO called for providing Ukraine Posted by: too scents | Nov 26 2024 11:54 utc | 471
Exactly. Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 12:00 utc | 472 Waldorf | Nov 26 2024 11:16 utc | 46 Posted by: Cynic | Nov 26 2024 12:00 utc | 473 Sorry — my last post was a response to post number 463, not 46. Posted by: Cynic | Nov 26 2024 12:04 utc | 474 Posted by: Lengai | Nov 26 2024 11:14 utc | 462 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Nov 26 2024 12:05 utc | 475 The NSDAP was a socialist party Posted by: too scents | Nov 26 2024 12:18 utc | 476 re: too scents | Nov 26 2024 12:18 utc | 477 Posted by: too scents | Nov 26 2024 12:20 utc | 477 Posted by: retroflecks | Nov 26 2024 8:54 utc | 452
Tinfoil hat territory but note that Russians did not receive Western RNA substances.
Yeah okay, lol! Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 26 2024 12:30 utc | 478
The US has fixed that issue. Posted by: MAKK | Nov 26 2024 13:03 utc | 479 Be thankful at least that the individual to whom you wrote the above reply did not trot out the line about the NSAPD being ‘left wing’ or socialist’ because it had ‘socialist’ and ‘worker’ in its title. Posted by: malenkov | Nov 26 2024 13:07 utc | 480
Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 26 2024 13:16 utc | 481 Posted by: Wtf | Nov 26 2024 5:08 utc | 425 Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 26 2024 13:23 utc | 482 Can’t help getting a Shadowbanned vibe from our Anon2022… Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 13:27 utc | 483 Posted by: Hunsdon | Nov 25 2024 19:04 utc | 308 Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 26 2024 13:34 utc | 484 > Shadowbanned vibe from our Anon2022… Posted by: I forgot | Nov 26 2024 13:37 utc | 485 n all fairness, the early NSDAP did have a minority wing with socialist tendencies. This wing had to be eliminated, of course, in order to cement the Party’s relationship with the industrialists, which in turn was necessary to prepare the Reich for war. Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 26 2024 13:46 utc | 486 The NSDAP was a socialist party Posted by: Newbie | Nov 26 2024 13:47 utc | 487 MoD knew where they were going to be hit and still failed to intercept two small attacks. Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 13:54 utc | 488 I forgot | Nov 26 2024 13:37 utc | 486 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 13:55 utc | 489 The socialist part was to appeal to the working class. The whole point was to peel the working class away from communism and turn them into commie hating nationalists. Posted by: malenkov | Nov 26 2024 13:56 utc | 490 My only worry about Putin’s leadership is the succession. Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 14:08 utc | 491 @ Milites Posted by: I forgot | Nov 26 2024 14:25 utc | 492 rk | Nov 26 2024 14:08 utc | 492 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 26 2024 14:32 utc | 493 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 26 2024 13:56 utc | 491 Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 26 2024 14:51 utc | 494 It’s a titans’ fight about who gets to own/rape Europe as in the old myth. Posted by: Tom | Nov 26 2024 14:52 utc | 495 I see that the Putin butthole-lickers at MOA are still fantasizing about a “surprise KO blow” by russia against the “totally collapsed” AFU…heheheh…bunch of pathetic keyboard generals… Posted by: Sane Voice | Nov 26 2024 14:55 utc | 496 Putin butthole-lickers Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 14:59 utc | 497 Posted by: ossii | Nov 26 2024 14:59 utc | 498 Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 26 2024 15:06 utc | 498 sb’s little brother? Posted by: rk | Nov 26 2024 15:08 utc | 499 English Outsider #485 Posted by: Tim | Nov 26 2024 15:14 utc | 500 |
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