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November 24, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-282

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Posted by: 5thcolumn | Nov 25 2024 11:54 utc | 190
The Eurovassals deploying all their AD assets would make it easier for Russia. They can then whack Nato AD assets in Ukraine, and any air base they might try to setup with new experimental weapons, instead of the need to whack them in Germany or UK.

Posted by: _unimperator_ | Nov 25 2024 13:10 utc | 201

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Nov 25 2024 11:54 utc | 190
The Eurovassals deploying all their AD assets in western/central Ukraine would make it easier for Russia. They can then whack Nato AD assets in Ukraine, and any air base they might try to setup with new experimental weapons, instead of the need to whack them in Germany or UK. They can also kill a lot of Nato troops in staging areas with experimental weapons without triggering anything.
That moment when they can do it is approaching fast as Ukraine Zaporozhye – Orekhov – Pokrovsk – Kurakhove front disintegrates, more fire power and intelligence can be directed to Lwow and Ivano-Frankovsk area.

Posted by: _unimperator_ | Nov 25 2024 13:13 utc | 202

I ead that the Russian factory in Caluga or Kaluga is attacked with long range missiles.

Posted by: Salmon | Nov 25 2024 13:13 utc | 203

Apparently an oil refinery not factory and 1 of 3 drones got through.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 25 2024 13:18 utc | 204

HOPEFULLY JOE BRANDON (or whoever is controlling him) WON’T SET OFF WORLD WAR 3 BEFORE TRUMP (our legitimate president from 2020) ASSUMES OFFICE. Zelensky is a WAR CRIMINAL AND NEEDS TO ANSWER FOR HIS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Posted by: Fortuna | Nov 25 2024 13:22 utc | 205

Posted by: Fortuna | Nov 25 2024 13:22 utc | 206
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Feel free to add some of the former presidents to Selensky.
Then you’ll surely find one or two more in Israel…

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 13:26 utc | 206

@201-203
Sorry for repeat messages, there was a lag when sending messages that did not appear.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 13:27 utc | 207

Vremyevsky Salient: Prospects for Encircling Velikaya Novosyolka and the Collapse of Kiev Forces’ Flanks
Russian forces continue advancing in the Vremyevsky salient, posing a serious threat to Ukrainian positions around Velikaya Novosyolka. Breakthroughs at key sections of the front are increasing pressure on enemy flanks, potentially leading to the operational encirclement of the town.
🔻 Advance on Velikaya Novosyolka:
Russian troops have reached the outskirts of Velikaya Novosyolka. Assault operations were conducted from multiple directions, with armored columns advancing along the highway from Shakhterskoye and Zolotaya Niva. After deploying airborne units three kilometers east of the hangars, Russian forces cleared and secured several enemy strongpoints. This established a foothold for further advances on the town and significantly expanded the controlled area around it.
🔻 Northeast Progress:
North of Velikaya Novosyolka, Russian units are steadily pushing through Kiev Forces’ defenses near Razdolnoye, advancing toward Novy Komar. Fighting is reported three kilometers from the highway passing through the settlement. These successes threaten the northern flank and could cut off critical supply routes necessary for holding the town.
🔻 Northern Advances Near Rovnopol:
Russian assault groups have moved one kilometer closer to Novosyolka, a strategic location linked to a key road that connects western approaches to Velikaya Novosyolka. Russian forces are now less than three kilometers from this road. Success in this area would block Kiev Forces’ supply lines and hasten the encirclement of the town.
🔻 Strategic Importance of Velikaya Novosyolka:
This town serves as a key node for Ukrainian forces, supporting flanks for both the defense of Kurakhovo and positions near Gulyaipole in the Zaporozhye sector. Losing the town would severely undermine Kiev Forces’ ability to defend these regions, isolating significant troop concentrations. Capturing Novy Komar and Novosyolka would pave the way for a complete encirclement of Velikaya Novosyolka and further Russian advances.
Video: boris_rozhin

https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1860980580390670475

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 13:38 utc | 208

the Kursk region was under relentless attack by AFU strike UAVs and American Atacms missiles overnight.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 25 2024 13:47 utc | 209

Valery Zaluzhny, former UA commander-in-chief:

I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely assume that World War III has begun.
Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Ukraine is facing soldiers from North Korea. Let’s be honest. Already in Ukraine, Iranian “Shaheeds” are killing civilians quite openly, without hesitation.
North Korean-made missiles are already flying into Ukraine, and they openly declare this. Chinese shells are being detonated in Ukraine, and Chinese parts are used in Russian missiles. (pravda.com.ua)

A blatant attempt to internationalize the Ukrainian war. Just mentioning North Korean troops and Ukraine in the same sentence classifies a sentence as falsehood.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 25 2024 14:00 utc | 210

Re the Kursk region.
It seems the Americans are determined to hold that region until at least the Trump inauguration. The conscripted cannon fodder sent there is quickly killed off so the American have to keep sending the best Ukroid units there to hold it. I assume this suits the Russians as up until Kursk, those better units remained highly mobile and were difficult to pin down and destroy.
Now that they are being used to hold the Kursk salient, they can be pinned down and destroyed. The longer the Russians keep Kursk running, the more of these units will be sent there to be destroyed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 14:08 utc | 211

the question is whether there will be the push to rebuild military stock in failing economies…..hope not.
Forever wars makes our species look like losers.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2024 1:33 utc | 139
There will be the push, but $$ don’t make weapons; industrial capacity + raw materials + educated labor make weapons.
We lack the 1st 2 & “woke math” doesn’t cut it.
If it walks like a loser & squawks like a loser…it’s a loser.

Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 14:09 utc | 212

After an ATACMS attack on an airfield in the Kursk region.
As for the attack on Kursk airfield, it did not cause significant damage; it was more of a demonstrative attack and to wait and see how we would react.
More worrying, however, is the interest in other airfields, as some Western weapons will be targeted there next time.
Monitoring of Russian airfields by Western satellites has intensified in light of threats from Ukraine. Particular attention is paid to bases near the battle line, such as Shaikovka airfield (more than 79 satellite images in the last month) and Belbek in Crimea. Engels airfield, a key strategic aviation base, is also covered by satellites (62 images per month). The use of satellite reconnaissance is due to the limited flight range of Western reconnaissance aircraft, which makes satellites a necessary tool for monitoring the number and location of Russian aviation. The frequency of satellite images could indicate priority targets for possible Ukrainian attacks..
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https://t.me/s/boris_rozhin

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:12 utc | 213

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 25 2024 14:00 utc | 211
There is something to be said about the despicable Ukrainian diaspora, but it is useless and tiring. They fled with gold, silver and western cash stacked in their suitcases and got nice jobs in the western countries.
The bottom line is – if the UK or France or Germany want to internationalize the conflict, go ahead and do it then. They already sent soldiers and missiles for years, so whether they announce it or not is immaterial.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 14:14 utc | 214

Now that they are being used to hold the Kursk salient, they can be pinned down and destroyed. The longer the Russians keep Kursk running, the more of these units will be sent there to be destroyed.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 14:08 utc | 212
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Well, Odessa has not been attacked so far, also because of these mobile units.
If you consider that the Russians have been ONLY about 45 km as the crow flies from Odessa for MONTHS, you know or can estimate what kind of problem was hidden in these mobile, mostly elite units.
And Putin may have explained why the General Staff wanted to carefully pulverize this mill for quite a long time with Ukrainian units, which in this case consisted of up to 65% mercenaries… before Trump came up with “stupid” ideas in February.

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 215

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 216
My take is the regular AFU is no longer receiving significant artillery or AD or MLRS systems from the west. Notice that all new Himars go exclusively to the northern front, to reinforce the narrative perception of Ukraine ‘allowed to strike Russia with ATACMS’. But the ATACMS, for instance today was used on an air field.
But they have nothing left in Zaporozhye-Orekhov-Pokrovsk-Kurakhove front. A few drones here and there. All their coherent lines melt like butter in the open fields. Nato knows that as the south collapses, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk can become isolated and enveloped, and entire eastern side of Dniepr may collapse, and Dnepropetrovsk may end up blocked, and Russia can focus on supply route running through Kharkov.
Ukraine continues over-extended and bleeding in Kursk oblast.
The attempt to internationalize by Nato is a sign that Nato knows end is coming, and they are moving to occupy western Ukraine. However, it doesn’t matter, Russia will move its recon and fire power into central/western Ukraine as its need in the east reduces. Then they will find Nato AD systems, air bases and concentrations in the west, far west of Dnieper.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 14:24 utc | 216

Adm. Sam Paparo, Commander of US Indo-Pacific Command
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2024 1:33 utc | 139
Hmmm…checks google pix. Checks bio. Yup. Timing, looks, location all fit. File under 2 degrees of separation. I may have known his father. Married w/children & hit on me 50+ years ago. 😂

Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 14:26 utc | 217

In his latest podcast (“Implications”) Andrei Martjanov muses about use cases for oreshnik.
What is the main German port for US military movements?

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 14:30 utc | 218

re: ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 216
your statemebnt tbat “the Russians have been ONLY about 45 km as the crow flies from Odessa for MONTHS” is important. Could you provide a link that illustrates that or states that?
thanks

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 25 2024 14:32 utc | 219

RUAF reportedly controls 50 % of Kurakhove. I would assume the front will quickly move to the level of Bogatyr (the next ‘fort city’ 20km west of Kurakhove), more in an uncontrolled than controlled fashion. Plus Uspenivka will automatically collapse.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 14:37 utc | 220

ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 216
I very much doubt Russia has any intention of spreading the zone of destruction to Odessa. Perhaps it will go to Russia after the conflict, perhaps not.
Russia has set up the equivalent of an industrial processing facility. In the demilitarization of Ukraine, the raw material is delivered to that zone of destruction for the Russian military to process. This is not about taking territory but the industrial scale destruction of any Ukrainian willing to point a gun at Russians.
Odessa from the numbers I have seen is about 60% pro or neutral towards Russia. The oth 40% is anti Russia which is a large subversive element for an occupation army to deal with. Many spies, insurgency warfare, bombings and assassination of pro Russia or Russian installed local officials ect ect. All headaches and bleeding wounds Russia does not want.
Those static frontlines are also bleeding Europe white and will bring about the collapse of the US controlled institutions – Nato and EU that allows the US to9 totally control Europe.
Russia has no need to take territory with the higher casualty rate that entails.
The conflict will end when Nato is defeated or there is no more Ukroid cannon Fodder willing to point a gun at Russia.
And this will occur over the same time period regardless of if Russia conquers a bit more territory of continues sitting on those static frontlines.
The military component of this conflict is truly and extension of politics. That military component is finely tuned to create a geopolitical outcome, not to conquer territories and peoples.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 14:45 utc | 221

By the way, if you look at deployment maps you see Ukraine has prepared a large defensive line in the same fashion Russia prepared 2023, running east-west. Losing Kurakhove will compromise the massive effort of west-east line as RUAF will be able to roll up the east-west line from behind (north), and systematically roll the defensive line from the side (east).
https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 14:45 utc | 222

Posted by: retroflecks | Nov 25 2024 7:53 utc | 173

missile research money has been going into bio-weapons research, and there is very little to laugh about, given advances in genetic engineering, CRISPR, and a proven inhumanity with regard to causing “excess statistics”.

I don’t believe it is feasible to create ethnic-specific bioweapons, regardless of biotechnological sophistication, bacause we’re just too similar at this point in human speciation. This doesn’t mean well-paid technicians wouldn’t sell the idea as if it were feasible. Probably COVID was an attempt (Ron Unz’s hypothesis) but if that was the case look at the blowback.
Even targetting simple bacteria with bioweapons produces blowback, other human beings? pleaaaase. Ethnic bioweapons research is just some astute and amoral biologists getting rich on silly projects sold to ambitious morons with a currency printing machine.

What if the next one has extreme lethality? They’ve already floated that 7/8 of humanity needs to just “go”… for a more “sustainable” world fleet of private jets.

Let me clarify one thing: elites need large populations of consumers, followers, voters, administrators and workers. Elites are sitting on top of an inmense hierarchy. Elites don’t want a reduction in population. Period.

I read it [Lance’s argument] as: they are prodding Russia for response, as “justification” for something just awful.

The logic is faulty. If you have something big to throw at your enemy you don’t escalate timid bit by timid bit as Lance’s correctly describe the West has been doing to counter Russia in the Ukraines. The West is known for shock and awe against its enemies when it has the power to do that. Escalating timid bit by timid bit is the strategy of the fearful, of the careful, of those that hope a small escalation will suffice eventually.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 25 2024 14:46 utc | 223

the question is whether there will be the push to rebuild military stock in failing economies…..hope not.
Forever wars makes our species look like losers.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2024 1:33 utc | 139
There will be the push, but $$ don’t make weapons; industrial capacity + raw materials + educated labor make weapons.
We lack the 1st 2 & “woke math” doesn’t cut it.
If it walks like a loser & squawks like a loser…it’s a loser.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 14:09 utc | 213

Well, yes … BUT
US / NATO / EU / allies still have some manufacturing, very small and weak but not zero
Then US and friends have stolen a lot of wealk from other countries until now.
They have big / huge stocks of weapons already manufactured. Thousands of cruise missiles and bunker buster bombs, airplanes, etc
They will use those stored already made resources untill finished, this can take a very long time to be fully finished.
And they do have a LOT of nuclear ICBM. When all other rocket are finished they will most likely launch the nuclear ICBM to “stop Russia and China an N.Koreea”
Maybe many of them will not work because of maintenance issues.
But some will work.
Russia has no way of knowing how many US ICBMs will work.
Because of this Russia will also have to fully launch it’s nuclear ICBMs.
Even IF US looses the exchange and it is fully obliterated the fallout from so many nukes will put ALL life on Earth in danger of extinction.

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 14:55 utc | 224

adding to 225,
Besides US can still “steal” a LOT of resources in raw materials and STEM educated work force from EU / Japan / AUS / Africa / Moroco, and other vassal stated all over the world.
They might have less resources that Russia + China taken together… BUT they still have a lot to “take” …. for a while at least.

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 14:59 utc | 225

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 14:59 utc | 226
The main thing US + alliance have going for it are the total control & subjugation of vassal Europeans. The Europeans may be weak, with troubled, weak stagnating societies and impoverished people, but they are committed to stripping their own countries in favor of warring with Russia.
Russia and China are far stronger, but China is onboard at around 5 % of its potential, that is to say, China is doing far less than it could to undermine and accelerate west’s collapse. Militarily speaking.
So brain dead Euros will continue piling up against Russia on their own body weight, and this can take longer to play out and increase pain for Russia, unfortunately. China should be supporting Russia more since the accusations of that have already been made long ago, like since late 2022. So there is nothing to lose.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 15:05 utc | 226

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 13:38 utc | 209
Thanks for the update.
On Velikaya Novosyolka:
Question for the group – did this town ever come under Russian control before? I seem to recall that the 2023 failed cuckster-offensive might have involved this town, but I am not sure.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 25 2024 15:09 utc | 227

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 25 2024 15:09 utc | 228
The AFU managed to capture Velyka Novosilka and the 2 – 4 villages north of it in conjunction with their 2023 counter-offensive.
Notice that RUAF is sucking AFU reserves into Velyka Novosilka. However, you notice that there are 2 – 3 rivers criss-crossing the village. RUAF can destroy a handful of bridges which can lead additional AFU reserves trapped there, while RUAF continues enveloping the village from west and north.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 15:11 utc | 228

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 14:59 utc | 226
The main thing US + alliance have going for it are the total control & subjugation of vassal Europeans. The Europeans may be weak, with troubled, weak stagnating societies and impoverished people, but they are committed to stripping their own countries in favor of warring with Russia.
Russia and China are far stronger, but China is onboard at around 5 % of its potential, that is to say, China is doing far less than it could to undermine and accelerate west’s collapse. Militarily speaking.
So brain dead Euros will continue piling up against Russia on their own body weight, and this can take longer to play out and increase pain for Russia, unfortunately. China should be supporting Russia more since the accusations of that have already been made long ago, like since late 2022. So there is nothing to lose.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 15:05 utc | 227

True, but China has a lot to loose.
Their culture does not like conflict, they prefer “trade” and they have a lot of people to get out of poverty and enjoy a decent or “moderate” prosperity.
They consider it “unfair” for the world to end before they have their chance to consume and enjoy life just like US / EU used to enjoy it in the past.
Getting their population dead by nukes because Russia versus US /NATO / EU conflict is not what they want…
Direct armed attack on China by US / friends might change that opinion for China population and ruling elites.
Ukraine is a distant concern for China and they ask Russia “nicely” to keep the conflict dial down and slow.

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 15:18 utc | 229

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 14:08 utc | 212
Yes Kursk grinder gets the best nazi meat. Russia will keep it running till the very end. Odessa move will be the sign to close it. Wonder if z has taken money from Russia also

Posted by: Michael J | Nov 25 2024 15:20 utc | 230

Notice that RUAF is sucking AFU reserves into Velyka Novosilka. However, you notice that there are 2 – 3 rivers criss-crossing the village. RUAF can destroy a handful of bridges which can lead additional AFU reserves trapped there, while RUAF continues enveloping the village from west and north.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 15:11 utc | 229
That would be a first, RF usually leaves a way out, so far pressure cookers are not in the kitchen

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 25 2024 15:21 utc | 231

x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1861037485083803997
Bauer: NATO discusses preemptive high-precision strikes on Russia.
“We have changed the relationship to the concept of a defense alliance(…) to strike the first blow on launchers in Russia,” he said.
A key element of the new strategy, according to Bauer, should be a combination of high-precision strikes capable of disable systems that could potentially be used to attack the alliance countries.
( vz.ru/news/2024/11/25/1299849.html )

Posted by: rk | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 232

Apollyon (187).
I think that’s what’s been happening up until now – however I don’t see Nato/Europe (though not all European nations) stopping the supply anytime soon – as the mission creep has seen more and more sophisticated and modern missiles – sent to Ukraine.
More sanctions have been applied to Russia today – its shadow fleet the hundreds of ships that trade around the globe have just had sanctions applied to them – and presumably any country that defies these sanctions will also face some sort of action against them as Nato thinks it rules the world.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 233

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 15:18 utc | 230
The Chinese are coin-counters and are not to be trusted, let alone relied on.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 25 2024 15:26 utc | 234

re: ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 216
your statemebnt tbat “the Russians have been ONLY about 45 km as the crow flies from Odessa for MONTHS” is important. Could you provide a link that illustrates that or states that? thanks
Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 25 2024 14:32 utc | 220
Ossii was very careful with his phrasing. I’d say 50 miles but that is splitting hairs. It is from the spit on the east side of the Dneiper to Odessa city center, less if to the oblast.
A great deal longer by road of course.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 25 2024 15:32 utc | 235

and presumably any country that defies these sanctions will also face some sort of action against them as Nato thinks it rules the world.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 234

this is a huge issue and should really be thought over by all those countries that want to have normal relations with anyone. the usa/nato has shown that its an ENEMY to THE WHOLE WORLD if it does not get its way.
like a prepubescent child. they deserve a slap to get down from their high horse for real.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 25 2024 15:33 utc | 236

Lethal or potentially lethal rhetoric has made its way into the Sense site which currently features a “question” as to whether Russia should make a nuclear attack London. No discernment. Yes, within the politically independent “Square Mile”, more properly known as City of London or The City, there is a prime iteration of the heart of the Beast.
The RU has very recently demonstrated the kinetic power of their Hazel Wand with their demonstration strike on that underground facility near Dniepropetrovsk. If Russian leaders choose to send an unmistakable message to the world as to the potential lethal seriousness of thermonuclear conflict; that private bank in The City should be targeted in the wee hours of some otherwise quiet morning.
Such a measure would be the “Dernier Cri” to halt the madness. There are some cooler heads in the Pentagon who could refuse to take orders from the handlers of the $enile One if those Neocon Blackhearts choose to further escalate.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 15:40 utc | 237

This is a thunderbolt, it’s checkmate that Putin has done… with a conventional, non-nuclear weapon [Oreshnik] that no-one can shoot down… Changes the whole Escalatory paradigm…
It was… that Putin had no choice but to go to nuclear, or to threatening rhetoric which most of the west didn’t believe.
Now with Oreshnik, he has a conventional weapon that can be used against Europe or others
…America… is trapped in an all or nothing dilemma.
Either to go nuclear or to make… pointless gestures, sending more ATACMS & more storm shadows which Russia has proved it can easily manage… shoots down 90% of the ATACMS…on average.
…It’s suddenly changed… Putin has the escalatory dominance now… what this new weapon has done, has inverted the whole strategic geopolitical paradigm…

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 25 2024 15:42 utc | 238

Zounds! Auto-correct has fucked me over once again. It substituted Rense with Sense. On occasion that feature can assist in poor choices of spelling and orthography. However, the AI feature infesting this iMac is but a harbinger of programmed mind-control on behalf of evil agendas.
Please excuse this inculcated blunder and be wary of such employments of overbearing technology programmed on behalf of nefarious agendas.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 15:44 utc | 239

ossii | Nov 25 2024 14:19 utc | 216
Wonder the tactics for Odessa. Apart from partisans any help possible from Transnistria side?
Wouldn’t be surprised if there is most brutal cleansing by ethnic Russians there who are ready to explode with decades of pure pent up rage and revenge. Russian army will have their hands full in calming them down

Posted by: Michael J | Nov 25 2024 15:47 utc | 240

Ukraine’s Western backers are at the same time trying to assist Kiev in jump-starting and expanding its own defense manufacturing sector.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2024 1:33 utc | 139
First people scoffed that any war manufacturing could be started up in Ukraine. “Russia would take it out as soon as they started”.
Then people said that the factory in Dneipropetrovsk was Soviet era and had been shuttered for years, so why did Russia take it out? Such a waste of a new weapon.
Maybe Russia knows something that we do not.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 241

Adding 1+1+1:
1. Zelinsky announces that Ukraine can develop a nuke in a couple of weeks. In fact this is the first step in a long developed NATO plan to take the war nuclear if needed. Russian gains + Trump win meant that the time had come.
2. The plan was to marry NATO warheads with Ukr. rockets, for plausible deniability. Russia would either have to strike first with nukes (I.e. the reason for Z’s provocative statement) or would have to reply to a Ukr nuclear strike, giving NATO the excuse that it needed to launch nukes on Russia.
3. Enter the hazelnut. Russia destroys Ukr nukes with a non-nuke hypersonic weapon. NATO has no excuse to attack Russia. It’s back to the drawing board again! But probably too late for this war?

Posted by: dh-mtl | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 242

Then people said that the factory in Dneipropetrovsk was Soviet era and had been shuttered for years, so why did Russia take it out? Such a waste of a new weapon.
Maybe Russia knows something that we do not.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 242

There were rumors that British or US specialists were helping Ukraine develop or manufacture missiles in the Yuzhmash plant. Perhaps something to do with nuclear technology, too. You know, the British have been beating the drum of giving Ukraine nukes…

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 15:57 utc | 243

re: dh-mtl | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 243
If Ukraine comes up with a nuclear warhead, it will be because the US or UK supplied them with one.
I wouldn’t rule that out, with the NY Times reporting that giving nukes to Ukraine was “under discussion”.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 25 2024 15:58 utc | 244

Posted by: rk | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 233
Smells like gaining first strike opportunity. Not happened in decades.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 16:09 utc | 245

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 15:44 utc | 240
Turn off auto-incorrect.
Spell for yourself, own your own errors.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 25 2024 16:09 utc | 246

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 234
I can tell you one think.
Energy is like drug, once you are addicted it’s rather difficult to detox.
RF is one of the bigger pusher in the world.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 16:11 utc | 247

Then people said that the factory in Dneipropetrovsk was Soviet era and had been shuttered for years, so why did Russia take it out? Such a waste of a new weapon.
Maybe Russia knows something that we do not.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 242
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So you mean that these Nazis said in front of cameras that “the thing about building atomic bombs” wasn’t meant like that, it was all just a joke?
Man oh man, find out what was built in this factory during the USSR. A 50km exclusion zone was set up around this city, around 75% of the residents of this city worked in this factory which is several floors deep… this is where nuclear weapons were built and assembled!
Why did the Russians wait until they flattened it, how many foreigners died in the process…and again.
To build a nuclear weapon you do NOT need uranium… plutonium is enough, of which the Ukraine has a lot… the radiation may be limited, but the stuff is highly toxic in the milligram range.
So what did the Ukros do in this factory of all places… in NUCLEAR WEAPONS-SAFE basements!
Feedback geben

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 16:11 utc | 248

One more thing, I know the plant superficially.
The special thing about this plant was, among other things, that NO radiation was measurable on the surface. (Supposedly) owning measuring devices in such a city was like a death sentence.
But the machinery and the like should still be there in the closed-off areas (up to 8).

Posted by: ossii | Nov 25 2024 16:18 utc | 249

Enter the hazelnut. Russia destroys Ukr nukes with a non-nuke hypersonic weapon. NATO has no excuse to attack Russia.
@Posted by: dh-mtl | Nov 25 2024 15:52 utc | 243
But they have already attacked Russia and are talking about doing more, read the link in post #233. Nato’s strategy was perfectly predictable since 2014 and it remains so, if you think they’re going to stop you will be very disappointed. The missile strike was a just test Russia had to do on a real bunker used by Nato. Other than the technical usefulness, it does not change anything for the smo, Kinzhal has not changed anything either, they were also wasted on useless targets.

Posted by: rk | Nov 25 2024 16:23 utc | 250

Turn off auto-incorrect.
Spell for yourself, own your own errors.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 25 2024 16:09 utc | 247
I’ve searched & searched for a way to turn off autocorrect on my phone. Finally have given up; if there is an “off” button God only knows where they hid it
Perhaps you could point the way?

Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 16:31 utc | 251

Weather permitting, Russia probably has satellite pics of the facility struck by Oreshnik – mainly to compare intended results with true results. I’m not sure if there’s any incentive for Ru to make the images public.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 25 2024 16:33 utc | 252

Nato is going into hyper-panic, per Rob Bauer statements today.
This was to be expected. The west has hit the limits of what it can do in terms of waging war in a civilian economy. They are losing BADLY in Ukraine. And most likely collapsing southern Ukraine front has a lot to do with panic right now.
And NATO can’t provide Ukraine MLRS, artillery and AD systems to maintain the front (they are using the few remaining Himars to attack Kursk to support their media narrative of attacking Russia). Meanwhile all pillars around are collapsing.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 16:34 utc | 253

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 25 2024 15:42 utc | 239
Thanks for that, the “Hazel” conversation is wandering around for lack of new information, but I wanted to comment that the timing of Hazel’s first use seems precise too, just the right time to wrong-foot the WarParty again.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 25 2024 16:35 utc | 254

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the US/UK were probably working with the Ukies in that plant developing nuclear weapons. Or at least one.
But no more. Too bad, so sad. (Not).

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 25 2024 16:36 utc | 255

The suicidal calls for starting a world war is reaching raving status over here.
Russian Federation does not knee jerk at every provocation because it is winning and this way dictates the escalation pace. Russia is winning, you madmen. The one thing that can throw this out of a window is a bigger war. You call for Russia to lose, just so you would personally feel momentarily better reading a headline. Insanity.
I am personally glad none of you make any decisions in this conflict. Even NATO would woe to have you.

Posted by: boneless | Nov 25 2024 16:41 utc | 256

Even IF US looses the exchange and it is fully obliterated the fallout from so many nukes will put ALL life on Earth in danger of extinction.
Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 14:55 utc | 225
Radiation is a minor problem compared to the heat generated by one of these things. Life on this planet thrives on mutation and adaptation … we don’t but life does.
An 800kt Russian nuclear warhead creates a blast radius of 6.5 KM but creates a fire storm that consumes all carboniferous material over a radius of 11 km. Everything that can burn in this area will burn down to the compost in the soil, tree roots, bugs … everything and the heat is so intense it drives all the soot and ash from combustion into the upper atmosphere where it stays for years.
They did a study of a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan consisting of 100 warheads under a megaton landing in urban areas. The result from this small exchange was a nuclear winter that lasted a decade. Russia and the USA have 12000 warheads between them.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 25 2024 16:42 utc | 257

ChatNPC@1609
As an octogenarian technophobe; I’m not only averse to “corrections” via the AI built into the iMac; but also to going through the rigamarole to deal with that mess. Hell, I’ve even not dealt with inability to establish connection with PDF materials. I simply despise that shit. Yes, I am guilty of employing the KISS principle: “Keep it simple stupid”. ALL technology should be user friendly, even for old farts such as myself. Apple has long made that claim…seems like they have fallen off the wagon.
But I sure as hell choose not to use fukkin Microsoft Gate$ crappola. Hoping he gets arrested and convicted for crimes against humanity for the megadeaths caused by the Jabs “curing” the fake Corona Virus.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 16:42 utc | 258

unimperator@1557
Perfidious Albion is simply itching to destroy Russia. Their ruling elites have long despised Russia and are greedy to get their sticky mitts on all its resources. A good Hazel Wand strike on that private bank in City of London would be the ideal wake up lesson for those bass-turds. If they don’t awaken from that one, the MI6 H.Q would be the logical second iteration. If that one is ineffective, then their chief propaganda medium, the BBC.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 16:46 utc | 259

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 14:30 utc | 219
Bremerhaven…
Ramstein, Wiesbaden und Bremerhaven would be the targets. Just without those 3 alone it would be game, set and match for the Yankees, the scum of the earth, in europe.

Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 25 2024 16:49 utc | 260

I’m gratified to find well-informed commentators such as Danny Davis and Andrei Martynov giving voice to an interpretation of Oreshnik similar to my own, and expanding into implications yet to be dreamed of in the delusional west. If military history is a steeplechase race, Oreshnik just mowed down all the steeples.
Yuzhmash can be thought of as the fortification equivalent of the deepest bunkers in North Dakota (or wherever) from which the Powers That Be might have contemplated managing affairs during any global confrontation. Dick Cheney’s infamous “undisclosed location” is undoubtedly vulnerable to a strike which can destroy Yuzhmash, designed from the time of Stalin to withstand anything.
So there’s point one. Probably the first and deepest shock to penetrate the thick skulls of some folks in that big pentagonal building: there’s absolutely no refuge, no hiding place invulnerable to Oreshnik. Think about it — deep thoughts indeed.
Point two is that nuclear warfare, as well as ground warfare, is essentially obsolete. Martynov points out that it is now impossible for an assault-group to assemble anywhere. OMG. So broken-hearted cuz I can’t get started with you.
The scale of the target — subject to a single 6X6 missile — is quite literally earth-shattering. If there’s a harbor or airbase causing any problems, there’s no need for an atomic explosion to wield strategic destruction: no more harbor, no more airbase, no more bomb-factory complex. Et cetera.
And no excuse for escalating to nuclear weapons. RF can attain sufficient destruction of enemy assets with weapons which discriminate in favor of military targets. Only the terrorist west is desperate enough to attempt an initiation of nuclear catastrophe. We’re not out of the woods by any means. But there might be a light at the end of the tunnel.
Point three is you ain’t seen nothing yet. Russia is evidently disinclined to reveal any of the mind-blowing advances their ballistic engineers have made (in chaos, materials, etc.) until prepared for a necessary demonstration. Watch out for further revelations.
Back in Old English studies, we encounter many verses ending like this:

Ond tha haethena ahton waelstowe gewald.

Which means “the vikings kicked but again.” Or, as Porky Pig says, “that’s all, folks!”

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 25 2024 16:56 utc | 261

and presumably any country that defies these sanctions will also face some sort of action against them as Nato thinks it rules the world.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 25 2024 15:22 utc | 234
this is a huge issue and should really be thought over by all those countries that want to have normal relations with anyone. the usa/nato has shown that its an ENEMY to THE WHOLE WORLD if it does not get its way.
like a prepubescent child. they deserve a slap to get down from their high horse for real.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 25 2024 15:33 utc | 237

Most countries want to survive and not get bombed into stone age or color revolutionized or ISIS invaded or sanctioned into starvation bu US and friends.
Not every country has the option to stand against a powerful gang of killers and stealer countries.
US / NATO and vassals are NOT a “prepubescent child”. More like a well trained killer and thug / thief with zero moral. You do NOT want to slap such an individual unless you want to die or suffer big harm.
Besides human race is NOT good by design. Unfortunately humans are evil by design and propaganda and democracy and capitalism.
Most likely 150% of what they know is FALSE and CIA can consider mission overachieved in brainwashing populations all over the world
I have seen an psychology experiment where 1 single bad cheating human could convince 7 other to become bad/evil also generating a chain reaction of “evil” in a bigger group.
It took more that 7 good people for a long time to force one single bad human to “behave good”.
This does not mean that that evil human was transformed in a good human… just forced to behave.
Unfortunately in the human race the proportion is reversed.
We have 99.999% of population evil and a very small minority of good people. Most likely 10K or less in most of “democratic” countries.
Good people are generated by random genetics and killed and hunted or pushed away by rest of population.
If the country is not China or Russia or if it has not a high totalitarian regime controlled by good people… there is no chance to survive and attack from US / NATO
Most countries and people do not even want to be good, just comfort and survive and pretend to be good.
Money for nothing and chicks for free 😉

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 17:07 utc | 262

They’re selling postcards of the hanging
They’re painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They’ve got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they’re restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row
Bob Dylan (who else….)
Seems apt….

Posted by: Waymad | Nov 25 2024 17:12 utc | 263

Some sources in AFU are afraid that Zaporozhye and all forts around it will be bypassed.
It’s easy to agree. Just looking at the map one can notice that Zaporozhye city is not needed imminently – it can be blocked against the river with the bridge(s) destroyed. And it is possible to bypass Zaporozhye, and move on to block Dnepropetrovsk as a supply waypoint to Donbass.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 25 2024 17:18 utc | 264

unimperator@1557
Perfidious Albion is simply itching to destroy Russia. Their ruling elites have long despised Russia and are greedy to get their sticky mitts on all its resources. A good Hazel Wand strike on that private bank in City of London would be the ideal wake up lesson for those bass-turds. If they don’t awaken from that one, the MI6 H.Q would be the logical second iteration. If that one is ineffective, then their chief propaganda medium, the BBC.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 25 2024 16:46 utc | 260

I wish … that wester people will stop dreaming that Russia will “solve” all their problems by bombing this or that target in US / UK / EU / NATO and friends.
Not going to happen. Russia is restrained by China and by the need to save itself and its population.
When nukes or Hazel rockets will fly into London or similar targets it will be because nuclear War has started OR it is starting in the next 32 minutes.
And “we the normal / poor people” will get incinerated first together with our families pets and loved ones.
Yes, I do think that US would not hesitate if it had the Hazel to bomb Moscow.
Maybe in next months or years it will not hesitate to bomb Moscow anyway and you will get your wish.
But unfortunately I do not think we will live long enough to see London in ruins on TV or Telegram.
Besides only “common people” will be affected. This includes up to corporations CEO and “normal” billionaires and CIA and deep state and politicians 😀
The shadow ruling elite that really decide and control the world will be in bunkers with full reserves of water, food, fuel, nukes, weapons and watch our death on TV.

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 17:22 utc | 265

Hi folks, hold on the euphoria about the Hazel attack until we have accurate reports and pictures of the situation on the ground.
Probably nothing happened. The Russians warned the Ukro-Nazis about the attack in good time.
The whole thing could well have been just a spectacular show to calm down the angry Russian population.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Nov 25 2024 17:23 utc | 266

Denial from laws of physics is indeed strong among the propagandists. They simply can’t shut up about how much “it doesn’t matter”.

Posted by: boneless | Nov 25 2024 17:27 utc | 267

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 17:22 utc | 266
And stay there for a few decades living a shitty life to eventually emerge in a world that possibly could barely sustain human life and, if so, they will need to work harder than they never had before.
Smart move.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 17:28 utc | 268

aristodemus 260
“Perfidious Albion is simply itching to destroy Russia.”
Perfidious Albion will be a radioactive ashtray without even any bacteria or fungi surviving, or even tardigrades,
before even 10% of Russia is destroyed.
Beyond 2300 no-one anywhere will speak the English language.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 25 2024 17:29 utc | 269

Posted by: guest from franconia | Nov 25 2024 17:23 utc | 267
If RF did made great damage to the plant warning ukro is just a nice gesture.
I understand that western nazies only value the killing of civilians.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 17:30 utc | 270

bog 230
“True, but China has a lot to loose.
Their culture does not like conflict, they prefer “trade” and they have a lot of people to get out of poverty and enjoy a decent or “moderate” prosperity.
They consider it “unfair” for the world to end before they have their chance to consume and enjoy life just like US / EU used to enjoy it in the past.
Getting their population dead by nukes because Russia versus US /NATO / EU conflict is not what they want…”
But it is what the west wants.
The posse of psychopaths that rule the fourth reich don’t like the present lie of the land with China emerging dominant economically and technologically.
So they are clearly gearing up now for nuclear war so they can roll the dice again and hope to keep China down next time.
As things stand this will unfold in an matter of months.
If you have access to any of these NAZO ruling elites – you know what your duty is.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 25 2024 17:36 utc | 271

re: Mario | Nov 25 2024 16:11 utc | 248
you say :”Energy is like drug, once you are addicted it’s rather difficult to detox. RF is one of the bigger pusher in the world.
When you can’t get gas for your car, the electricity is turned off, and you’re freezing in the dark, fossil fuel energy becomes quite attractive, as it is the only thing that will keep you alive.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 25 2024 17:36 utc | 272

Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 25 2024 16:49 utc | 261
Bremerhaven…
Ramstein, Wiesbaden und Bremerhaven would be the targets. Just without those 3 alone it would be game, set and match for the Yankees, the scum of the earth, in europe.
I thought so. Martjanov shows, that the area of Bremerhaven harbour is less than the Yushmash plant.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 17:39 utc | 273

Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 25 2024 16:33 utc | 253
The two videos of the strike that quickly appeared – they seem to originate from Medvedevs telegram account. The Russians had observers on the ground, in location, to watch and video the strike.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 17:40 utc | 274

unimperator 215
“There is something to be said about the despicable Ukrainian diaspora, but it is useless and tiring. They fled with gold, silver and western cash stacked in their suitcases and got nice jobs in the western countries.
The bottom line is – if the UK or France or Germany want to internationalize the conflict, go ahead and do it then. They already sent soldiers and missiles for years, so whether they announce it or not is immaterial.”
Here in Belgium one sees a lot of quite nice cars with UA Ukraine number plates.
Here’s an interview with a British soldier captured by the Russian army in the Kursk region:
https://www.youtube.com/live/Sj44CR_KY5c?si=8hvREkY753LGrAlQ

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 25 2024 17:44 utc | 275

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 25 2024 17:36 utc | 273
Fossil fuel is exactly the drug.
You will do anything to get it, hopefully tell USA to fuck off.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 17:44 utc | 276

@ MorePain4Cakes, §219:
Primary targets will be Stolp, Poland and Caracal, Rumania, the locations of the Aegis Ashore systems.

Posted by: John Marks | Nov 25 2024 17:48 utc | 277

Posted by: John Marks | Nov 25 2024 17:48 utc | 278
Primary targets will be Stolp, Poland and Caracal, Rumania, the locations of the Aegis Ashore systems.
Maria Sacharowa already hinted at them. They will be next – and leaving Polish/Romanian troops nearby unscathed…

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 17:50 utc | 278

Perhaps you could point the way?
Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 16:31 utc | 252

(Blushes) I own no smartphone, so sadly, no.
On the laptop I proof read before pressing ‘Post’ and still there are goofs, but at least they are my, human goofs.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 25 2024 17:51 utc | 279

The Russians warned the Ukro-Nazis about the attack in good time.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Nov 25 2024 17:23 utc | 267

can you give us a link to the source of this claim? a credible one at that.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 25 2024 17:51 utc | 280

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 17:50 utc | 279
No, first you need to prevent any possible supply line to europe…It’s all about logistics…

Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 25 2024 18:02 utc | 281

The Russians warned the Ukro-Nazis about the attack in good time.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Nov 25 2024 17:23 utc | 267
can you give us a link to the source of this claim? a credible one at that.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 25 2024 17:51 utc | 281

I’ve read that RU informed the US 30minutes ahead (arrival or dispatch? open).
No idea how fast the Americans forwarded to Ukraine ( or not )

Posted by: MAKK | Nov 25 2024 18:12 utc | 282

The Russians warned the Ukro-Nazis about the attack in good time. Posted by: guest from franconia | Nov 25 2024 17:23 utc | 267
can you give us a link to the source of this claim? a credible one at that. Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 25 2024 17:51 utc | 281
From memory both the Russians and US confirmed that the INF hotline was activated so that all knew it was not a nuke. One can assume that the Pentagon told its operatives and friends in Kiev. Whether they were told the target is unknown.
That is probably the info flow alluded to.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 25 2024 18:13 utc | 283

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 17:22 utc | 266
And stay there for a few decades living a shitty life to eventually emerge in a world that possibly could barely sustain human life and, if so, they will need to work harder than they never had before.
Smart move.
Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 17:28 utc | 269

Survival no matter the cost is always a “smart move” for life forms. Together with reproduction and propagation of life.
“Quality of life” is an invention to rule people.
Killing all your enemy IF you perceive you are going to loose the battle is also “logical” for them (apparently it is OK with Russia also as Putin stated)
Besides I think life in a bunker will not be so bad.
After all I am sure that some will have “a penthouse apartment” at upper floors.
Some slaves will have a 10 by 10 meters “apartment”.
Plus somebody will have all the good food, girls, weapons and security.
While somebody else will have to to all the work.
A “mini” western “bunker” society of capitalism and democracy after all?

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:18 utc | 284

Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 17:40 utc | 275–
There were also videos taken of the missile’s flight after launch that was shown during Nima’s chat with Dr. Postol. So, Russia was clearly documenting this event so the world would see it and not have it blacked out by Western censorship. Another point is the trajectory isn’t ballistic and thus doesn’t “announce” itself as a nuclear armed missile, although as we know it could be. And there we have the drawback in this weapon being the same as not knowing how the Tomahawk missiles in Poland or Romania are armed, so Russia must assume they’re nukes. So, the Areshnik has the dubious problem of sharing the issues Russia has with NATO’s missiles. Sure, Moscow can announce where it will be aimed at next and that it’s not armed with nukes as Putin said. And while we find Putin far more credible than anyone in NATO, the big issue becomes NATO’s utter lack of credibility such that no Russian would believe NATO’s insistence that its Romanian and Polish systems were not nukes even if it were true.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 25 2024 18:20 utc | 285

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/#post-colonelcassad-9516951
Russians regain Ol’govka in Kursk Oblast. At least one dead Ukrainian visible in photos though according to the article hundreds of their bodies are lying around. Interesting that the Russian troops are wearing red field signs.

Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 25 2024 18:20 utc | 286

aristodemus 260
“Perfidious Albion is simply itching to destroy Russia.”
Perfidious Albion will be a radioactive ashtray without even any bacteria or fungi surviving, or even tardigrades,
before even 10% of Russia is destroyed.
Beyond 2300 no-one anywhere will speak the English language.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 25 2024 17:29 utc | 270

Please do not insult tardigrades, they might survive.
Besides bacteria and fungi are quite intelligent and I have seen bacteria inside a nuclear reactor core … so bacteria might also survive.
You just have to convince bacteria when they evolve again into eucaryote cells and complex multicellular organism to avoid doing “brains” in order to avoid “nukes” and “humans / intelligence”
Also English language is simple and useful for technology and communications since things are complicated enough without a complex language like Chinese.
I hear Chinese people like English language for it’s simplicity.
They might keep it 😀

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:25 utc | 287

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:18 utc | 285
Yeah, dreams.
10×10 for the slaves is the size of a small apartment in Europe.
Food will be canned and preserved or do you think to have a greenhouse facility together with the penthouse and 100m2 for each slave.
Energy for that coming from?

Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 18:26 utc | 288

No, first you need to prevent any possible supply line to europe…It’s all about logistics…
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 25 2024 18:02 utc | 282
Disagree. From where we are now it is most important for the US power elite (not population) to be made aware that the Russians are not bluffing. The best way to achieve that is to destroy US targets that the US had spent a lot of time and money on, are fairly small and isolated and is proud of. Better still, that will take years to replace.
The two AEGIS Ashore sites are perfect. When destroyed the US military and politicians will be well aware of what has happened but have been allowed, in typical Russian fashion, a way out. The option of minimising the effect in public, allowing them a way to change their posture for lots of other reasons other than Russian pressure which would be political dynamite.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 25 2024 18:26 utc | 289

Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 25 2024 18:02 utc | 282
No, first you need to prevent any possible supply line to europe…It’s all about logistics…
Be it as it may. The scary point is, the west has no response to Russia’s conventional (!) escalation dominance. And this mixture of delusion and hubris does not bode well.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 25 2024 18:34 utc | 290

Posted by: boneless | Nov 25 2024 17:27 utc | 268
##########
When one denies biological gender, it’s not a long distance to negate the effects of physics on reality.
There is a lot of mental illness in the world, heavily concentrated in the West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 18:36 utc | 291

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 17:40 utc | 275
##########
Of course, they did. Russia maintains a lot of partisans in Ukraine and BDA of an experimental weapon would be well planned.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 18:39 utc | 292

But it is what the west wants.
The posse of psychopaths that rule the fourth reich don’t like the present lie of the land with China emerging dominant economically and technologically.
So they are clearly gearing up now for nuclear war so they can roll the dice again and hope to keep China down next time.
As things stand this will unfold in an matter of months.
If you have access to any of these NAZO ruling elites – you know what your duty is.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 25 2024 17:36 utc | 272

Unfortunately, I agree with all you say above …
I wonder if XI got that memo or not

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:42 utc | 293

The Russians informed the Americans that it was not a nuke.
They probably did not tell them it was an experimental weapon utilizing new physics principles.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 18:43 utc | 294

Reports of a Brit named James Scott Rhys Anderson being captured in Kursk Oblast while fighting for the Kiev forces.

Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 25 2024 18:44 utc | 295

I agree that Ekatrina the Great established Odessa; Potemkin did all the work.
Posted by: canuck | Nov 24 2024 18:10 utc | 49
Potemkin has been honored for his work with many villages, virtual and otherwise named in his honor. Similar to the cocktail, popular throughout the world, named after the great Soviet diplomat of the WWII era. /sarc

Posted by: Samu | Nov 25 2024 18:44 utc | 296

karlof1 | Nov 25 2024 18:20 utc | 286
Yes, I saw a link here to that Nima video and watched it. Incredible stuff. I also have thought about those missile bases in Poland and Romania as prime targets.
From what Putin has said in interviews, even long before the SMO, these are of prime concern to Russia. The tomahawk missile which can have nuclear warheads comes in the same container as the ABM interceptors and is fired from the same launchers. No doubt other newer missiles could also be designed to fit in those same cartridges and be fired from the same launchers.
When I see these Russian advances in technology, I can’t help but think about the closed cycle rocket engines that the American engineers thought could not be built, but which the Soviet union built, the very advanced Soviet Russian mathematics, and the vast Soviet databank of pure science that the Russian Federation as successor state now has.
The west simply does not have those very advanced mathematical equations and that vast databank of pure science that I believe is the foundation for Russia’s current advances in technology.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 25 2024 18:48 utc | 297

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:18 utc | 285

Yeah, dreams.
10×10 for the slaves is the size of a small apartment in Europe.
Food will be canned and preserved or do you think to have a greenhouse facility together with the penthouse and 100m2 for each slave.
Energy for that coming from?
Posted by: Mario | Nov 25 2024 18:26 utc | 289

Hmm, yes 10×10 would be my error sorry.
What I wanted to say was more like 10square meters or 20 square meters max.
Food canned of course.
Some green houses for potatoes and vegetables fueled by LED light and compost from humans and waste with huge inputs from again stored nutrients / fertilizers.
Not a full cycle closed environment since that does NOT work as tested in Biosphere 1 & 2 experiments.
However with stored fertilizers and other external input this might work.
Electrical Energy from geothermal turbines or if / when geothermal is not available by Small Modular Nuclear Reactors (many of them to be replaced not re-charged once they stop working)
But my bet is on Geotermal not SMR since it is “almost infinite” IF you drill deep enough towards Earth core.

Posted by: bog | Nov 25 2024 18:51 utc | 298

I’ve searched & searched for a way to turn off autocorrect on my phone.
Perhaps you could point the way?
Posted by: Mary | Nov 25 2024 16:31 utc | 252
It’s around the language setting.
On Android:
Settings / Additional settings / Languages & input / Spell checker

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 25 2024 18:51 utc | 299

*** Russia maintains a lot of partisans in Ukraine and BDA of an experimental weapon would be well planned.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 18:39 utc | 293
As far as an experimental weapon impact being well planned, I am wondering about the impact with voters in Romania.
Georgescu called Russian President Vladimir Putin one of the few true leaders in the world.
During an interview in 2021, [Georgescu] described NATO’s ballistic missile defence shield in the Romanian military base Deveselu as a “shame of diplomacy”. He also said NATO would not protect any of its members if Russia were to attack them. Romania has been a NATO member since 2004. Hmmmm …

Posted by: frithguild | Nov 25 2024 18:51 utc | 300